Japan Yields and Starts to Hide the Truth

[steve_a]

Hi Everybody,

Japan has had a sharp kick in the nuts and is reeling from a disaster which surpasses its' plight in WWII. The culture has always been based on tradition, respect and honesty, even from most of the politicians. But it seems that keeping a tradition has its' limits.

I was tracking the news from CNN and the BBC today and was suprised by not what was being said on the news but by what was not being said on the news. Talk about being on the edge of a double edged Samuri sword.

We all know that the lowest common denominator of the world is money and it's exactly this that has been lost on the Japanese stock market over the last two days, with record falls and large volumes.

So it's no suprise for me that as the first nuclear reactor went up there was a lot of media, as was when the second exploded. All of a sudden, after the third went up in smoke, the BBC are transmitting "Click" and other unimportant programs instead of following the serious news. CNN on her part is filling time with comparisons between Japanese reactors and those in the US, even though it's extremely highly unlikely those in the US will be hit by a 30 foot wall of water coming at 100mph.

If the news of nuclear fallout widens, it will make an already bad situation worse and the stock market will take a thrashing. With billions of dollars at stake, it could very well be that keeping mum is the way.

Also in the aid department, NGO's would be less likely to deploy their staff if Thyroid Cancer became the order of the day because of the radiation.

We can understand the extremely difficult situation the prime minister has in Japan, but we also need to where he needs to draw the line between being completely open with what's going on and being economical with the truth.

Economical truth began when the Prime Minister of Japan stated Monday that the radiation leak at the second reactor was no more than the same amount of radiation given in an X-Ray. What he didn't say is that when we have an X-Ray we are exposed to the radiation for only a few seconds then we leave the environment. Even the radiologists use those famous heavy lead lined coats. The radiation from the power plant is constant, equivalent to thousands upon thousands of X-Rays every single day, without the protective clothing.

If we need to know about the radiation situation, we need look no further than the US Navy parked on Japans doorstep. The ships are moving back. Why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKQfeMiRUc&feature=player_embedded

Best regards,

Steve

[gardunk]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html

[RAKMEiSTER]

they didnt Yield
yield:
–verb (used without object)
8. to give a return, as for labor expended; produce; bear.
9. to surrender or submit, as to superior power: The rebels yielded after a week.
10. to give way to influence, entreaty, argument, or the like: Don't yield to their outrageous demands.
11. to give place or precedence (usually followed by to ): to yield to another; Will the senator from new york yield?
12. to give way to force, pressure, etc., so as to move, bend, collapse, or the like.

you dont see usa/australie/uk/UN&Co there do you no coolant. no powergenerators heli;d in. noo (and yes "they" got a tokyo branch) but thats not "all" and japan isnt selling out again.

and whom is hiding what. and to what is the whom connected/serve. and who isnt involved (corp/nuclear) in cases as this. just shows it more the "game"

UPDATE FROM BENJAMIN FULFORD~

Please ignore scare-mongering corporate propaganda about nuclear fall-out from Japan
By Benjamin Fulford:

There is a blizzard of panic mongering about nuclear melt-downs in Japan being generated out of U.S. corporate propaganda "media" and their Japanese employees. Please do not play into their hands because the generation of fear and panic is one of their last weapons.

Here is a list of the corporate sponsors of the so-called "Egyptian revolution" as compiled by the Japanese magazine "Kami no Bakudan" (paper bomb): Howcast, Edelman, Google, MTV, CBS "News," Mobile Accord, You Tube, Facebook, MSNBC, National Geographic and the Omnicon Group. They have proven themselves to be unreliable in the past so please ignore any exaggerated panic causing news emanating from any of these propaganda outlets and their Council on Foreign Relations god-fathers.

The world now faces a choice between mutually assured self-destruction and world peace. We believe rational minds will prevail.
Benjamin Fulford

turn of your TV i say. for sanity!
i dont have one!
and topic name is as some as your post dualintended
Japan Yields and Starts to Hide the Truth , as they are as correct as they even more are incorrect.

down with all choas agent!

we need look no further than the US Navy parked on Japans doorstep. The ships are moving back. Why?
cause its protocol and is part of the hole fear game.


""The Navy said Monday that radiation was detected by another carrier, the USS Ronald Reagan, and that 17 helicopter crew members had to be decontaminated after returning to the Reagan from search and rescue duty. The Navy said more crews were exposed to very low levels of radiation Tuesday and had to be decontaminated.""

protocol among others means broaden the range vs area of source supposed detected minimal radiation variable. aka relocation of ship.

as for the radiation, rest on forum have posted enough to correct the bs being spread out in the masses. with numbers and wind and all the tech stuff


Japan Does Not Face Another Chernobyl
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576198421680697248.html

The crisis in Japan has completely destroyed my faith in the "mainstream" American news media. (self.news)
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/g3oay/the_crisis_in_japan_has_completely_destroyed_my/



FreeBeing

14 March 2011 9:36PM

I posted some quotes from these links in the earlier blog today regarding the safety record of and cover ups by TEPCO and the Nuclear Industry in Japan and concerns regarding safety of the GE designed BWR used at the ***ushima sites. Here are the links again if anyone would like to read the information.


Revelation of Endless N-damage Cover-ups:
the “TEPCO scandal” and the adverse trend of easing
inspection standards

On August 29 at 6 p.m., the Nuclear Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) announced
at a press conference that TEPCO had falsified
voluntary inspection reports and concealed it
for many years. TEPCO admitted the stated
facts at the press conference later in the same
day. According to the agency, TEPCO has
falsified the inspection records and attempted
to hide cracks in reactor vessel shrouds in 13
units of the 17 nuclear power plants owned by
TEPCO, including ***ushima I (6 reactors),
***ushima II (4 reactors), and Kashiwazaki-
Kariwa (7 reactors). However, the agency
maintained that there should be no problem
regarding the safety of the nuclear power
plants. Ironically, the safety assessment by the
agency was based on TEPCO’s calculation.


http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/nit92.pdf


HAZARDS OF BOILING WATER REACTORS IN THE UNITED STATES

Extensive cracking of circumferential welds on the core shroud has been discovered in a growing number of U.S. and foreign BWRs. A lateral shift along circumferential cracks at the welds by as little as 1/8 inch can result in the misalignment of the fuel and the inability to insert the control rods coupled with loss of fuel core cooling capability. This scenario can result in a core melt accident.

However, as early as 1972, Dr. Stephen Hanuaer, an Atomic Energy Commission safety official, recommended that the pressure suppression system be discontinued and any further designs not be accepted for construction permits. Shortly thereafter, three General Electric nuclear engineers publicly resigned their prestigious positions citing dangerous shortcomings in the GE design.

An NRC analysis of the potential failure of the Mark I under accident conditions concluded in a 1985 report that Mark I failure within the first few hours following core melt would appear rather likely."

In 1986, Harold Denton, then the NRC's top safety official, told an industry trade group that the "Mark I containment, especially being smaller with lower design pressure, in spite of the suppression pool, if you look at the WASH 1400 safety study, you'll find something like a 90% probability of that containment failing."
http://www.nirs.org/factsheets/bwrfact.htm
TEPCO's Damage Cover-up and Data Falsification
http://cnic.jp/english/newsletter/nit92/nit92articles/nit92coverupdata.html


Leaked cable: Japanese lawmaker pointed to cover-up of nuclear accidents (rawstory.com)
5 hours ago@ worldnews

who do you think leaked it and with that intent motivatoin in this bigger picture.


@a"webpage" this week that counts in general:
I see two things happening to people
* Some people are becoming more and more disconnected from themselves.... (very disturbing)
* Some people are embracing themselves and become more connected with their spirit.
It's like the people who are "disconnecting" are creating their own mental disability.

its.all.connected

even when you cant see IT

namaste

[steve_a]

Hi Rakmeister,

The word yield is correct in this case for the title of the thread. Perhaps you didn't get it as English doesn't appear to be your native tongue (Dutch or Flemmish for me would be a challenge also).

As for fearmongering, it's something I don't do. I imagine that Benjamin Fulford would be on the next bus out of Tokyo if there was enough gasoline available if he knew that the fourth reactor with spent fuel rods caught fire and only fifty people are trying to resolve the problems of all four reactors, and have been doing for almost five days now. The only thing that is saving his ack is the fact that the wind is blowing in a favourable direction to take most of the fallout to sea.

The IAEA has described the disaster as scale 6 from a scale of 1 to 7, making it worse than Three Mile Island but not quite as bad as the Chernobyl tradgedy in Russia. Even Germany has now closed down five of it's nuclear power plants today.

Those are the facts that are in the news. I imagine Fulford to be more stressed by the 16% fall of the NIKKEI over the last two days. Tomorrow will be a show on the stock exchange, especially with the news of the fire at reactor four today (the reason why the government was trying to play down the radiation leak).

Best regards,

Steve

[RAKMEiSTER]

libertarian5467

At the risk of being a little technical for the lay public, I have some figures below on relevant radiation dosimetry.

This is a technical area, and I have provided annual limits and risks derived from EFFECTIVE DOSE (which is a tissue weighted, quality factor adjusted), the "common" way of expressing radiation risk per NRC.

After the most recent explosion, it appears, according to the AP, that 11,930 micro sieverts (mi-Sv) per hour was initially released NEXT TO THE PLANT. This is 1.193 mSv (milli-Sie­verts) / hour. At 6 hours, the radiation levels already dropped to 496 micro sieverts per hour, which is ~0.05 mSv/hr.

I am not sure what the radiation readings are in the public, but I assume they are very small (follow the usual exponentia­l drop-off).

To give perspectiv­e, the ANNUAL OCCUPATION­AL limit for plant personnel, according to NCRP Report 116, is 50 mSv. I doubt anyone has reached this threshold (which is also VERY conservati­ve) given the small amount of radiation released.

The ANNUAL limit for PUBLIC exposure is 5 mSv for "infrequen­t exposure" (e.g., Nuclear incident).

The "TOTAL DETRIMENT" RISK (of fatal cancer, non-fatal cancer, and severe genetic effects) for workers is 0.000056 per mSv (Table 7.1 of NCRP 116) (for public, it is 0.000073 per mSv), so can see EXCEEDINGL­Y SMALL HEALTH RISK.

DISCLAIMER­: I have a BS and MS in nuclear engineerin­g. I do not work (have never) in the nuclear industry.

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You might not be aware of this but Obama did send the military over there to help.

http://art­icles.cnn.­com/2011-0­3-12/us/qu­ake.respon­se_1_japan­-self-defe­nse-force-­japanese-a­uthorities­-helicopte­rs?_s=PM:U­S

"On Friday, President Barack Obama pledged to help the island country. "I offer our Japanese friends whatever assistance is needed," he said. "Today's events remind us how fragile life can be."
weve seen it NOT. ask H.Clinton why.

we know why and its on AV

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A professor of nuclear physics just came and talked to us at my dorm. There are only 2 people plus 3 staff left here, out of about 30 people total. Tohoku University is officially closed until April 25 and students are supposed to go home if possible. Depending on the food and power situation, he is anticipating inspection and cleanup at the university buildings next week and some resumption of research in early April.

The radiation output at the reactors has been around 0.5mSv per hour (I got this update about 30 hours ago). Normal human absorption is 3.5mSv per year. Unless you are very close this is not even detectable.

The professor has been measuring levels in his apartment in Sendai. I believe he said he normally measures a rate of 0.1mSv per hour (before the earthquake). I don't know how the detector measurement compares to rate of absorption. What I do know is that the maximum he has measured is 0.6mSv per hour, for short periods (a few hours). This is 6 times normal, and he said it is not a problem for short-term exposure until you get to about 100 times the normal level. He is not leaving Sendai but advises students to leave because it could be more difficult to leave in the coming weeks and there is no point staying when there are no classes.

I am now hearing reports of loss of water in one reactor. As far as I know this will make cleanup very hazardous but is not a hazard to the general public, especially outside of the evacuation zone.

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A few words on Japan's nuclear crisis from a retired nuclear engineer... (self.news) ferocity02

Here is bit of info I got from a retired nuclear engineer regarding the events in Japan....

Learned that the H2 that has been exploding is the product of hydrolysis catalyzed by the very hot zirconium fuel pellet sheathing as it is exposed to water. Just like the electrolysis we used to do in high school lab except instead of a battery we have hot zirconium doing the splitting...2 hydrogens and one oxygen for every water molecule...not a particularly safe combination to have occupying your containment.

As far as he can tell, when the reactors scram(m)ed the control rods behaved properly so the reactors are / were not in danger of going critical...but...one of the potential hazards of melt down is that all the nuclear fuel can 'reconfigure' in sort of a random molten soup and if it turns out that there is too much fuel and not sufficient control material in any given space then an uncontrolled fission reaction can occur. Boron, in the form of a whole bunch of boric acid solution will absorb neutrons to keep the thing shut down but they have to have the material on hand and be able to get it on the core.

Apparently the spent fuel, the waste, is either stored on site in pools or is already in pretty much bullet proof canisters. The former might be vulnerable to its own coolant loss or to physical damage from an explosion whereas the latter should be able to ride out pretty much anything.

He is puzzled as to how the facility lost secondary power which was, apparently, the underlying cause of the problems. He believes that ***ushima (with reactors pretty much identical to the Washington nuclear plant) had six or seven diesel back-up generators which should have been located inside the containment building and therefore immune from the tidal wave damage. Furthermore, he believes that they actually did run and supply power for an hour or two immediately after the quake suggesting that they weren't summarily flattened. He is wondering if perhaps something happened to their possibly less secure fuel supply. And, yes, they would have had a 'huge' battery room and inverters to supply pump power even when the generators failed but either the batteries did not work or they did but just couldn't last long enough.

He confirms that pouring seawater on the reactor cores is to render them scrap. Seawater under the high temperature conditions in the reactor is super corrosive and there is no way to recover the equipment once exposed. It is not clear if the seawater is being allowed to flow into the core area and then out again or if it comes in as water and exits only as steam. He seemed to think it was the latter.

It is his opinion that even if there is a full melt down that we are so far away that it is impossible that sufficient radioactivity will reach our west coast to do any harm. It may be measurable but it'll be insignificant to us. On the other hand, the potential for human disaster for areas closer to the plants remains great and depends on how much radioactive crap is released and what the weather does with it


At around 5 PM Japan time today the UK government’s Chief Scientific officer John Beddington spoke to the British Embassy in Tokyo, and to others listening in on the teleconference, and gave us some information about worst case scenarios at the ***ushima plant. I made the following notes on what was said and found it very reassuring:

1. Worst case scenario (reactor explodes) problems would only affect a 30 km radius around the plant.
2. No health problems expected outside this 30 km area. Today's reports of increased radiation in Tokyo are trivial. The increase in radiation they are reporting is not significant. It would need to be 100s of times that level to cause any problems.
3. An allowable dose would be 100 times the background radiation.
4. They can monitor radiation levels in the area from outside Japan, so there is no cover up going on. Conspiracy theorists stand down.
5. In Chernobyl the top blew off the reactor and then the core caught fire and burnt. This convection pushed all radioactive material higher and higher into the air where it reached 30,000 feet and so the spread was much larger. Here, a build up of pressure as the radioactive material interacts with the containment floor would cause an explosion that would only reach as high as around 500 meters. This would contain any dangerous material within the 20 to 30 km exclusion zone.
6. If all attempts at cooling the reactors fail, a worst case scenario, then there would be an explosion, but this blast would only throw radioactive material up to 500 meters, and the 30 km containment zone stands.
7. Acceptable levels of radiation are based on the most susceptible members of society (children and pregnant mothers). So right now, the levels outside the 30 km zone are fine for all members of society.
8. No matter how strong the wind, the radioactive material released after an explosion of the core wouldn't make it to Tokyo





'Radiation' text message is fake
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12745128

http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/chinese-netizens-admire-japanese-post-earthquake-behavior.html

Why I am not worried about Japan’s nuclear reactors.

This post has moved. It is now hosted and maintained by the MIT Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. Members of the NSE community have edited the original post and will be monitoring and posting comments, updates, and new information.
http://morgsatlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors/

worst case is still far better than what happened at Chernobyl. IE, if it totally melts down, it will fall into the 'basement' which is a giant concrete box designed to hold a entire core in the midst of a meltdown.
Was radiation likely to be released? Yes. Was it going to be another chernobyl? Very unlikely, given the lack of graphite to spawn a massive radioactive fire.
- there is no question of continuing reaction of of an explosion on the scale of Chernobyl.

Please read this http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/12/nuclear-energy-insid.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29
and this for better information.
It's not even like Three Mile Island (which had no injuries or deaths, btw).

http://cl.ly/2V3c33023U0Y1e0s2X0T/Screen_shot_2011-03-14_at_10.09.47_PM.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qmf1j.png

1st all the above

2nd IAEA didnt rate if a 6 French Nuclear agency did!

3rd IAEA didnt act upon protocol did they.

4rd IAEA = tool

4th you got a tendancy to non go into "valid" points and remarks. and than use the other parts ass a refrence why your not,. and ofc feel personally effected since you use teh term fear mongering. not me

5th hahah the your not native english speaker card. to yield or not to. is globally known, so please...... and i added the meaning/definition as addon to your own double-edge'd topicname.

6th haha you even make reffrence to NIKKEI, you know your game, and i know your modes operandus. been seeing it for a while and thats crystal clear.

7th im done



Namaste

[steve_a]

Hi Rakmeister,

The term fear-mongering was indeed startedby me, in reply to your quote from Benjamin Fulford who used the ter "scare-mongering". That's one of the problems of cutting and pasting text, not many people read or understand what they're cutting and pasting, but that's another topic and we don't want to wander off on a tangent.

I draw your attention to the following article: http://au.news.yahoo.com/japan-tsunami/a/-/article/9001152/analysis-how-bad-is-the-nuclear-accident-in-japan/

Granted this article was written before the fire at reactor number four, however you will note that in the article it reads about the danger scale of nuclear accidents, "The International Atomic Energy Agency -- an inter-governmental organization for scientific co-operation in the nuclear field -- said it uses the scale to communicate to the public in a consistent way the safety significance of nuclear and radiological events."

If a guy from another agency also calls it doesn't mean tosay that he has the exclusive right to the call, it just he that he calls it as well, as the scale from one to seven is an international scale used by all and sundry to keep everyone on the same page.

I'm sure that because of your limited use of the English language, the impression I get of you being a little stressed out is not justified, therefore I won't be drawn by some of your comments. let's just try and kepp at least this thread on track.

Best regards,

Steve

[Humble Janitor]

@steve_a: If the Japanese government decides to bow to the PTW agenda, then they are committing political seppuku and that is probably what needs to happen in order to usher in a greater awakening.

[Anchor]

The IAEA has described the disaster as scale 6 from a scale of 1 to 7, making it worse than Three Mile Island but not quite as bad as the Chernobyl tradgedy in Russia. Even Germany has now closed down five of it's nuclear power plants today.

Yup and Swine Flu pandemic was given the highest rating globally by the WHO too and we know where that ended up....

I do so trust these institutional bodies not to scare-monger or for that matter fear-monger, what would be ever do without them?

[steve_a]

Hi Humble Janitor,

I think time will tell on this one. Japanese culture is based a lot on honour. Not wanting to sound too heartless, but it will be interesting to see the breaking point of the people who up until this point have shown a remarkable show of strength and order, no looting, nor rioting etc. as we saw in New Orleans.

I think as Japan is now in the spotlight, of course for all the wrong reasons, there is an opportunity to show the world what decency and integrity really means by a population. There are some wonderful stories of solidarity coming out of this disaster.

Best regards,

Steve

[Buchanan561]

JAPAN EARTHQUAKE ~The INSIDE on NUCLEAR REACTORS and the RISKS We All Face

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?564-JAPAN-EARTHQUAKE-The-INSIDE-on-NUCLEAR-REACTORS-and-the-RISKS-We-All-Face&p=3545&viewfull=1#post3545





HAARP and an Insight by James Horak

Puzzle Pieces and Where they Fit


I have discussed before what actually lay behind Desert Storm, why the lady ambassador to Iraq at the time, would actually encourage Sadam Hussain to “settle his issue” with Kuwait over Iraq not having a port on the Persian Gulf” through more than diplomatic channels. Today the very same concerns lay behind the monstrous use of H.A.A.R.P. To inflict this latest unprecedented earthquake activity on Japan.


Desert Storm was to finally even the score on Kuwait for its “insolence” in bucking Standard Oil's monopoly on refining oil for export by contracting all its oil to Japan for refining (for export) its oil there. The issue had been settled on Japan years earlier when the Japanese could find no tankers they could lease and no one to build tankers for them. Remember when the yen fell to two-thirds its value overnight and there was a banking crisis in Japan?


Well, Japan and Kuwait did it again, contracting all of Kuwait's oil, the Japanese worked out an arrangement with Viet Nam to build their refineries there. This agreement was reported last year in an extensive article in Arab News.



And now you have the first third of the repercussions (Kuwait next, then Viet Nam) via H.A.A.R.P.

You might help go viral with this and be a part of saving lives otherwise meant to be sacrificed on the altar of the New World Order.

JCH

[RAKMEiSTER]

say hi to richard for me Buchanan561. is he working on his own issues? yet
next will be thuban links to posts. and snake and dragon is complete again.
miss copy paste/operandus . as i seeing ya nexus links more and more.
rest about the nuclear is/was/has/been said

jnpp-safety.zip
Japan Nuclear Power Station Safety Design
March 17, 2011 (2.4MB)
http://cryptome.org/0003/jnpp-safety.zip