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Peacelovinman
15th March 2011, 13:37
The New Statesman (UK Newspaper) is running an article which states that Queen Elizabeth II is the legal owner of one sixth of the world's land in acreage terms.

Pretty scary, huh?

gardunk
15th March 2011, 19:40
any maps available to see where the holdimngs are? maybe the sun does never set on the brits empire!

Rocky_Shorz
15th March 2011, 19:45
well one nation under the queen mean anything to anyone?

Canada, England and Australia are 1/6 of the world...

mondaze
15th March 2011, 19:47
and 2/3 rds of the "persons"

Rocky_Shorz
15th March 2011, 20:12
79 United Kingdom 0.16% of total world Landmass
2 Canada 6.7%
6 Australia 5.2%

The following countries have territorial claims in Antarctica: Australia (5,896,500 km2/2,276,700 sq mi), United Kingdom (1,395,000 km2/539,000 sq mi)

so who might gain by melting the poles?

now that is scary...

Tangri
15th March 2011, 20:20
The New Statesman (UK Newspaper) is running an article which states that Queen Elizabeth II is the legal owner of one sixth of the world's land in acreage terms.

Pretty scary, huh?

Peacelovingman,
I was just going to start a post that :who is the world's biggest real estate tycoon?"
which is going to be addressed British Royalty.
Thanks your post, mine is no longer necessary. It is very good subject these days

thunder24
15th March 2011, 23:56
79 United Kingdom 0.16% of total world Landmass
2 Canada 6.7%
6 Australia 5.2%

The following countries have territorial claims in Antarctica: Australia (5,896,500 km2/2,276,700 sq mi), United Kingdom (1,395,000 km2/539,000 sq mi)

so who might gain by melting the poles?

now that is scary...

ouch... that is very interesting...something to consider with "their" agenda. I say "their" for there is only us,we, I.

KosmicKat
16th March 2011, 01:13
...maybe the sun does never set on the brits empire!
The reason why the sun never sets on the British Empire (which is really a commonwealth now)?

God doesn't trust the British in the dark.:eek:

loc333
16th March 2011, 02:24
i worked on a building the queen owned,in boston

Moemers
16th March 2011, 02:26
Can you link the article please?

azure
16th March 2011, 02:44
Yep! I read somewhere about the City of London holding documents of the ownership titles or something.

Peacelovinman
16th March 2011, 12:48
Sorry guys, I can't link the article as it is in the current print edition.

It did contain a map showing all lands the Queen has dominion over. I have to admit I didn't read the full article. Should the article be right and she is "legal" owner of these lands then, in my opinion, she will never be "lawful" owner. The whole familiy are a disgrace to the UK, as is the UK's role in supression of other races throughout history, in my humble opinion.

777
16th March 2011, 12:56
This kinda "Says it all":

Where the blue denotes British Commonwealth land, of which the Queen is monarch. I'm not aware she "owns" this land, but may be wrong.

Setras
16th March 2011, 13:02
All the Queen’s forces and all the Queen’s men

In so many ways, the House of Windsor encapsulates almost every element of this story. They are of a Black Nobility bloodline who are knowingly working to the Brotherhood Agenda and when you look behind the facade what you find is very dark indeed. The Windsors are the highest profile reptilian family on the planet and they operate at the heart of the global manipulation.



They are still ‘gofers’ of a kind and not at the very top of the pyramid, but they are close to those who are.


The very coronation of the British monarch reveals the true background to the Windsors and their predecessors. When the Queen was crowned Elizabeth II on June 2nd 1953, all the regalia of the ceremony, the crowns, sceptres, gowns, orb and bracelets, were taken from the Tower of London and kept overnight in the Jerusalem Chamber at Westminster Abbey.



This chamber is where the scholars met to translate the King James ‘authorised version’ of the Bible under the overall supervision of Sir Francis Bacon and Robert Fludd, the Grand Master of the Priory of Sion.1 The British Royal family still hold the copyright for this! The Jerusalem Chamber is panelled with cedar wood brought from the Lebanon because that was the wood said to be used to build Solomon’s Temple. The tapestry in the chamber depicts the Judgment of Solomon. Westminster Abbey, the ‘Christian cathedral’, is in fact a Pagan temple. Even the floor is made of black and white squares like a Freemasonic temple.


At the start of the ceremony in 1953, the Queen sat on the Coronation Chair and under her bum was the Stone of Destiny which Edward I had stolen from Scone (pronounced ‘scoon’) Abbey in Scotland in 1246. The Stone was supposed to have been brought to Ireland from Israel via Egypt and is also known as Jacob’s Pillar or Pillow. I think the basic theme of that is correct, but there is a great deal more to know about the detail and its true significance. The Archbishop of Canterbury turned to the north, south, east, and west (the four points of the Pagan cross) and the congregation shouted “God save the Queen”. This was symbolic of the story in the Old Testament describing the crowning of ‘Saul’ as King of Israel when people shouted “God save the King”.2


This cry can be found eight times in the Old Testament when the Kings of Israel are crowned. The Queen sat in the Coronation Chair holding the Egyptian symbols, a sceptre and a rod. On the top of the sceptre is the Maltese Cross and on the rod is a dove. She also later holds an orb with a Maltese Cross on the top, the same as those used by the Dutch wing of the Black Nobility.



Babylon is now London and Queen Elizabeth is seen by the Brotherhood as a symbolic successor to the legendary founder of Babylon, Queen Semiramis, who was symbolized as a ‘dove’. The Queen was also anointed with oil at her Coronation, the ancient Aryan and reptile-Aryan tradition which goes back thousands of years. The word ‘Christ’ means the ‘anointed one’. The oil at the Queen’s coronation was the same mixture as that used in the ancient Middle East. It was carried in a gold vessel called the Ampulla made in the form of... a dove.3



This is symbolic of the messeh fat used in Egypt by the Royal Court of the Dragon. The anointing at the Coronation is supposed to elevate the monarch to the rank of High Priest, in this case, appropriately, High Priestess of the Church of England as well as head of state.



While this was happening, the Archbishop of Canterbury said:

“As kings, priests, and prophets were anointed: and as Solomon was anointed by Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet, so be thou anointed, blessed and consecrated Queen over the peoples, whom the Lord thy God hath given thee to rule and govern...

This is pure Brotherhood symbolism. The ‘Lord thy God’ means the ‘gods’ of the ancient world, the reptilian ‘gods’. The crown used in the ceremony goes back to the time of Edward the Confessor. He was the King of England who built the original Westminster Abbey in 1065 and later the present one was begun by the Templar controlled, Henry III. Edward died in 1066, the very year that William the Conqueror and his St Clair supporters invaded England and won the Battle of Hastings under instructions from the Black Nobility of Venice.



The Coronation Crown is set with 12 jewels along with two depictions of the Maltese Cross which was one of the most prominent symbols of the Nazis. In the Levite-authored Exodus we hear of the Breastplate of Aaron which is set with 12 stones.5 The same stones, in the same order, appear in the British crown.6 The Archbishop placed his hands between the Queen’s to pay homage to the new head of his Church and he kissed her right hand. Then he said:

“The Lord Almighty... establish your throne in righteousness, that it may stand for evermore, like as the sun before him, and as a faithful witness in Heaven.”7

This is almost a repeat of the words used in God’s covenant with David in the Old Testament.8 The ‘Lord Almighty’ was formerly El Shaddai or Ishkur, the son of Marduk, who is claimed to have been the son of the Anunnaki scientist, Enki, the guy who, according to the Sumerian Texts as translated by Zecharia Sitchin, was the one who created the human-Anunnaki hybrids with Ninkharsag. The Windsors are of a Brotherhood-Black Nobility bloodline and the Queen was crowned in a Brotherhood ceremony inside a Brotherhood temple.



This will make sense of what you are about to read.


The Windsor blood


Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor, or Queen Elizabeth II, is, like all the royal families of Europe, is the bloodline of that pivotal figure in the takeover of Britain, William III, Prince of Orange, the man who signed into existence the Bank of England. She is also blood related to earlier Black Nobility invaders of the British Isles, like William the Conqueror. She is an ancestor of Robert the Bruce, Kenneth MacAlpin, and the Kings of Scotland, and is related to the Irish Kings going back to the ancient coronation ceremonies at Tara. The Queen Mother, formerly Lady Elizabeth (El-lizard-birth) Bowes-Lyon, comes from a seriously Brotherhood-reptilian bloodline, a Scottish aristocratic family which connects with the Bruces, Stuarts, MacAlpin, and down through the Kings of Ireland.



Her father was Claude George Bowes-Lyon, the 14th Earl of Strathmore, and her mother was Nina Celia Cavendish-Bentinck. The wealth and power of many of these lines owes much, sometimes all, to William of Orange and those who controlled him. It was William who made a Bentinck the first Earl of Portland in recognition of services rendered and the second Bentinck/Duke of Portland married into the Cavendish fortune to become the Cavendish-Bentinks, the line of the Queen Mother’s mother. This makes the Windsors blood relatives of the Cavendish family, the Dukes of Devonshire of Chatsworth House. The title Earl of Strathmore was given originally to the Queen Mother’s ancestor, Patrick Lyon, in recognition of his support for William of Orange.9


In short, the ancestors of the Windsors were fundamental in putting the Black Nobility’s William of Orange on the British throne after which the Bank of England and the power of the City of London was firmly established. Queen Elizabeth (El-lizard-birth), through her Hanoverian ancestors, and others, carries the bloodline of the Black Nobility in Germany and all these strands, be they Irish, Scottish, German, Danish, Swedish, whatever, go back via the Black Nobility Venetians through to the Phoenicians, the Egyptians, to Sumer, and the reptilians.



The bloodlines are incredible and Prince Charles can trace three thousand lines of decent alone from Edward III (1312-1377),10 the monarch who formed the Brotherhood grouping the Order of the Garter. Nineteen presidents of the United States have also been related to Edward III11 and therefore the line of Prince Charles. The Windsors even have a blood connection to that Brotherhood stooge, Mohammed, the official founder of Islam.12

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret18.htm

Peacelovinman
16th March 2011, 16:42
All the Queen’s forces and all the Queen’s men

In so many ways, the House of Windsor encapsulates almost every element of this story. They are of a Black Nobility bloodline who are knowingly working to the Brotherhood Agenda and when you look behind the facade what you find is very dark indeed. The Windsors are the highest profile reptilian family on the planet and they operate at the heart of the global manipulation.



They are still ‘gofers’ of a kind and not at the very top of the pyramid, but they are close to those who are.


The very coronation of the British monarch reveals the true background to the Windsors and their predecessors. When the Queen was crowned Elizabeth II on June 2nd 1953, all the regalia of the ceremony, the crowns, sceptres, gowns, orb and bracelets, were taken from the Tower of London and kept overnight in the Jerusalem Chamber at Westminster Abbey.



This chamber is where the scholars met to translate the King James ‘authorised version’ of the Bible under the overall supervision of Sir Francis Bacon and Robert Fludd, the Grand Master of the Priory of Sion.1 The British Royal family still hold the copyright for this! The Jerusalem Chamber is panelled with cedar wood brought from the Lebanon because that was the wood said to be used to build Solomon’s Temple. The tapestry in the chamber depicts the Judgment of Solomon. Westminster Abbey, the ‘Christian cathedral’, is in fact a Pagan temple. Even the floor is made of black and white squares like a Freemasonic temple.


At the start of the ceremony in 1953, the Queen sat on the Coronation Chair and under her bum was the Stone of Destiny which Edward I had stolen from Scone (pronounced ‘scoon’) Abbey in Scotland in 1246. The Stone was supposed to have been brought to Ireland from Israel via Egypt and is also known as Jacob’s Pillar or Pillow. I think the basic theme of that is correct, but there is a great deal more to know about the detail and its true significance. The Archbishop of Canterbury turned to the north, south, east, and west (the four points of the Pagan cross) and the congregation shouted “God save the Queen”. This was symbolic of the story in the Old Testament describing the crowning of ‘Saul’ as King of Israel when people shouted “God save the King”.2


This cry can be found eight times in the Old Testament when the Kings of Israel are crowned. The Queen sat in the Coronation Chair holding the Egyptian symbols, a sceptre and a rod. On the top of the sceptre is the Maltese Cross and on the rod is a dove. She also later holds an orb with a Maltese Cross on the top, the same as those used by the Dutch wing of the Black Nobility.



Babylon is now London and Queen Elizabeth is seen by the Brotherhood as a symbolic successor to the legendary founder of Babylon, Queen Semiramis, who was symbolized as a ‘dove’. The Queen was also anointed with oil at her Coronation, the ancient Aryan and reptile-Aryan tradition which goes back thousands of years. The word ‘Christ’ means the ‘anointed one’. The oil at the Queen’s coronation was the same mixture as that used in the ancient Middle East. It was carried in a gold vessel called the Ampulla made in the form of... a dove.3



This is symbolic of the messeh fat used in Egypt by the Royal Court of the Dragon. The anointing at the Coronation is supposed to elevate the monarch to the rank of High Priest, in this case, appropriately, High Priestess of the Church of England as well as head of state.



While this was happening, the Archbishop of Canterbury said:

“As kings, priests, and prophets were anointed: and as Solomon was anointed by Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet, so be thou anointed, blessed and consecrated Queen over the peoples, whom the Lord thy God hath given thee to rule and govern...

This is pure Brotherhood symbolism. The ‘Lord thy God’ means the ‘gods’ of the ancient world, the reptilian ‘gods’. The crown used in the ceremony goes back to the time of Edward the Confessor. He was the King of England who built the original Westminster Abbey in 1065 and later the present one was begun by the Templar controlled, Henry III. Edward died in 1066, the very year that William the Conqueror and his St Clair supporters invaded England and won the Battle of Hastings under instructions from the Black Nobility of Venice.



The Coronation Crown is set with 12 jewels along with two depictions of the Maltese Cross which was one of the most prominent symbols of the Nazis. In the Levite-authored Exodus we hear of the Breastplate of Aaron which is set with 12 stones.5 The same stones, in the same order, appear in the British crown.6 The Archbishop placed his hands between the Queen’s to pay homage to the new head of his Church and he kissed her right hand. Then he said:

“The Lord Almighty... establish your throne in righteousness, that it may stand for evermore, like as the sun before him, and as a faithful witness in Heaven.”7

This is almost a repeat of the words used in God’s covenant with David in the Old Testament.8 The ‘Lord Almighty’ was formerly El Shaddai or Ishkur, the son of Marduk, who is claimed to have been the son of the Anunnaki scientist, Enki, the guy who, according to the Sumerian Texts as translated by Zecharia Sitchin, was the one who created the human-Anunnaki hybrids with Ninkharsag. The Windsors are of a Brotherhood-Black Nobility bloodline and the Queen was crowned in a Brotherhood ceremony inside a Brotherhood temple.



This will make sense of what you are about to read.


The Windsor blood


Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor, or Queen Elizabeth II, is, like all the royal families of Europe, is the bloodline of that pivotal figure in the takeover of Britain, William III, Prince of Orange, the man who signed into existence the Bank of England. She is also blood related to earlier Black Nobility invaders of the British Isles, like William the Conqueror. She is an ancestor of Robert the Bruce, Kenneth MacAlpin, and the Kings of Scotland, and is related to the Irish Kings going back to the ancient coronation ceremonies at Tara. The Queen Mother, formerly Lady Elizabeth (El-lizard-birth) Bowes-Lyon, comes from a seriously Brotherhood-reptilian bloodline, a Scottish aristocratic family which connects with the Bruces, Stuarts, MacAlpin, and down through the Kings of Ireland.



Her father was Claude George Bowes-Lyon, the 14th Earl of Strathmore, and her mother was Nina Celia Cavendish-Bentinck. The wealth and power of many of these lines owes much, sometimes all, to William of Orange and those who controlled him. It was William who made a Bentinck the first Earl of Portland in recognition of services rendered and the second Bentinck/Duke of Portland married into the Cavendish fortune to become the Cavendish-Bentinks, the line of the Queen Mother’s mother. This makes the Windsors blood relatives of the Cavendish family, the Dukes of Devonshire of Chatsworth House. The title Earl of Strathmore was given originally to the Queen Mother’s ancestor, Patrick Lyon, in recognition of his support for William of Orange.9


In short, the ancestors of the Windsors were fundamental in putting the Black Nobility’s William of Orange on the British throne after which the Bank of England and the power of the City of London was firmly established. Queen Elizabeth (El-lizard-birth), through her Hanoverian ancestors, and others, carries the bloodline of the Black Nobility in Germany and all these strands, be they Irish, Scottish, German, Danish, Swedish, whatever, go back via the Black Nobility Venetians through to the Phoenicians, the Egyptians, to Sumer, and the reptilians.



The bloodlines are incredible and Prince Charles can trace three thousand lines of decent alone from Edward III (1312-1377),10 the monarch who formed the Brotherhood grouping the Order of the Garter. Nineteen presidents of the United States have also been related to Edward III11 and therefore the line of Prince Charles. The Windsors even have a blood connection to that Brotherhood stooge, Mohammed, the official founder of Islam.12

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret18.htm

This is certainly what they fear the "average" UK citizen becomes aware of.

Zepheriah
16th March 2011, 17:19
God doesn't trust the British in the dark.:eek:

Thats not fair at all, regardless of how old the saying is.

Let us be clear, this thread is about the Monarchy, not its subjects. And yes, we British are subjects to the Monarchy by dint of nationality wether we like it or not, and the only way to change that is to repatriate.

I'm proud of my heritage, my country, its history and of the Monarchy. We may not be what we once were, but we are better than what we once were. We don't force our views and beliefs down the throat of any country that has a different social or religious structure anymore, well, unless we're caught in the economic stranglehold of another, much more sinister and unscrupulous country........

Peacelovinman
16th March 2011, 20:07
God doesn't trust the British in the dark.:eek:

Thats not fair at all, regardless of how old the saying is.

Let us be clear, this thread is about the Monarchy, not its subjects. And yes, we British are subjects to the Monarchy by dint of nationality wether we like it or not, and the only way to change that is to repatriate.

I'm proud of my heritage, my country, its history and of the Monarchy. We may not be what we once were, but we are better than what we once were. We don't force our views and beliefs down the throat of any country that has a different social or religious structure anymore, well, unless we're caught in the economic stranglehold of another, much more sinister and unscrupulous country........

I don't think for a minute that we are somehow in the thrall of the USA and this is the reason we still do, with respect, force our (not "ours", but the people who use our military to carry out their policies in our name) views and beliefs down the throats of other countries (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.).

As a kid, I swallowed the lies that the British stand for fair play and enriching other nations and peoples through their ingenuity and hard graft. Little did I know that the real history of this country and it's role in world affairs had been hidden from me - whilst the people were being told one thing, the establishment was busy doing another.

However, I'm not a moaner who insists that this country has "gone to the dogs" like so many seem to think. I will be staying put in the land where I was born and am determined to see the day when the criminal cabal's influence disappears. One day, we will rid ourselves of the parasitical drain of the few who use London as their base of operations and we will be free to enjoy our beautiful country with the peaceful, law-abiding folks who live in it.

Rant over - thanks for listening!

Rocky_Shorz
16th March 2011, 20:11
i worked on a building the queen owned,in boston

my poodle crossed 6 lanes of traffic with me chasing behind in Boston Commons...

before I could grab him he stood up with his muddy paws on Prince Charles bright white pants...

I scooped him up with one hand as I looked up grinning to say sorry... ;)

Lord Sidious
16th March 2011, 20:45
God doesn't trust the British in the dark.:eek:

Thats not fair at all, regardless of how old the saying is.

Let us be clear, this thread is about the Monarchy, not its subjects. And yes, we British are subjects to the Monarchy by dint of nationality wether we like it or not, and the only way to change that is to repatriate.

I'm proud of my heritage, my country, its history and of the Monarchy. We may not be what we once were, but we are better than what we once were. We don't force our views and beliefs down the throat of any country that has a different social or religious structure anymore, well, unless we're caught in the economic stranglehold of another, much more sinister and unscrupulous country........

I think you are mistaken, very mistaken in two things.
First off, are you REALLY British?
I don't think you are. Just because you may be born in England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland (give it back already), does not make one British.
You are probably wondering what type of mushroom your Uncle Sidious has been eating, but keep your hair on, and find out.
Anyways, let's take a trip back in time, to 1888.
At this time, there is a serial killer on the loose in eastern London, some nugget called Jack the Ripper.
The empire is almost at it's height of power and riches.
Yet that wealth doesn't filter down, does it? In the east end alone, there are over 50,000 women of all ages prosituting themselves to be able to get a skinfull and to rent a bed for the night.
Yes, you read correctly, RENT a bed. Usually a bed that they had to share in a doss house.
I can hear you wondering what this has to do with being British?
Being British in reality is about money. The real monied classes are the ones who are British and they may or may not be born in the isles.
The second thing you are seriously mistaken about is whether or not the government holding you all in slavery is one that still pushes it's beliefs and wants on other nations/peoples.
Did you forget Iraq, Afghanistan and now, soon to hit a cinema near you, Libya, in full colour and in real time.
Oh, and you are not in thralldom to any other nation, you are IT, it is all emanating from The City.
Question, why are you proud of the monarchy? What have they done for you?

Rocky_Shorz
16th March 2011, 20:54
and yet they are only people, they have done their best to keep us terrified of them...

but they aren't special or gifted, just rich...

I always felt sorry for Canada and Australia giving 20 cents of every dollar they make to the queen...

but now America is giving 40 cents on every dollar to her as interest on the money the Federal reserve was so kind to lend us...

I'm done, it is time to stand up and take back our world...

Peacelovinman
16th March 2011, 21:02
and yet they are only people, they have done their best to keep us terrified of them...

but they aren't special or gifted, just rich...

I always felt sorry for Canada and Australia giving 20 cents of every dollar they make to the queen...

but now America is giving 40 cents on every dollar to her as interest on the money the Federal reserve was so kind to lend us...

I'm done, it is time to stand up and take back our world...

I understand those sentiments.

The mistake, I believe, we all make is to assume these criminals think like us. We assume because we can't comprehend carrying out evil deeds that it just isn't possible. However, these people just don't think like the majority of us do. They are merciless pschopaths, albeit clever ones, whose only fear is being found out, not only for their awful deeds but for their abnormal pyschological state.

When eneough people have the guts to recognise that this evil exists, we'll be rid of them. They are few, we are many...

Rocky_Shorz
16th March 2011, 21:05
well the veil has come down, now everything they do is being watched...

if we as a gathering can save 5 Billion lives, do you think flushing a company would take more than a thought?

Zepheriah
17th March 2011, 11:09
I think you are mistaken, very mistaken in two things.
First off, are you REALLY British?
I don't think you are. Just because you may be born in England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland (give it back already), does not make one British.
You are probably wondering what type of mushroom your Uncle Sidious has been eating, but keep your hair on, and find out.
Anyways, let's take a trip back in time, to 1888.
At this time, there is a serial killer on the loose in eastern London, some nugget called Jack the Ripper.
The empire is almost at it's height of power and riches.
Yet that wealth doesn't filter down, does it? In the east end alone, there are over 50,000 women of all ages prosituting themselves to be able to get a skinfull and to rent a bed for the night.
Yes, you read correctly, RENT a bed. Usually a bed that they had to share in a doss house.
I can hear you wondering what this has to do with being British?
Being British in reality is about money. The real monied classes are the ones who are British and they may or may not be born in the isles.
The second thing you are seriously mistaken about is whether or not the government holding you all in slavery is one that still pushes it's beliefs and wants on other nations/peoples.
Did you forget Iraq, Afghanistan and now, soon to hit a cinema near you, Libya, in full colour and in real time.
Oh, and you are not in thralldom to any other nation, you are IT, it is all emanating from The City.
Question, why are you proud of the monarchy? What have they done for you?

Well, sooner or later someone one was going to bite.

I am not mistaken about my national identity. I have a great love of history, ask my Mrs, it drives her insane. I know about the history of my nation, yes mine, and everyone else that calls it home, it is ours, and those we put in charge are merely the caretakers. Wether or not they facilitate that role correctly is a different matter for a different thread, but i digress. The point is, i don't need to be educated about the history of my nation, i already know, good and bad.

Victorian era Britain was no more or less politically and socially savage than any other comparable nation of the time. Using your structure i could say that no-one is truly American, or Dutch, or the same for any other "previously" internationally oppressive nation. (i highlight previously as it is a matter of opinion as to whether they still are). Using that era as a yard stick to measure nationality is improper, as it has nothing to do with nationality. Nationailty is based upon the country or constituent area upon which you claim residence. A child born to British parents in American is a dual national, but they do not recieve full national rights and priviliges unless they declare. Same would be true for any other mixed nationality persons.

My family is English/Scottish going back many, many generations, i can trace my national heritage a long way. My country of origin is England, so i am English if precision is what your after. However, England is a constituent part of the British Commonwealth, thereby being a British nation. For further clarification it does say i'm British on my passport and my driving licence. I would say, purely as conjecture as i know you as little as you know me, which is a BIG problem when you try to approach someone on a personal level the way you approached me, that your view on what does or does not make someone British is not the same as mine. From a legal standpoint i'm British, from a personal standpoint, i'm British. I fail to see how your belief can change those two facts.

Lets also not forget, seeing as you bought them up, who initiated and prepared the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. We were bought in under great pressure from the US as they couldn't launch their Shock and Awe warfare strategy from close range, those bombers were UK based and we cannot let them clear our airspace without being complicit in their intentions. We joined because the US wanted/needed us to. That is a poor governemental dicision taken with no consent from the people they are supposed to serve.

As for Libya, thats a whole can of worms isn't it? Is a no-fly zone needed? would it serve the people of Libya for us to impose one? Personally, i say yes. If Gaddafi is using his airforce to bomb civilians, and the average joe freedom fighters that want to take him down, with absolutely nothing stopping him from doing so, then yes, there damn well should be a no-fly zone. Should we invade to "liberate" the freedom fighters? No. Its not our fight to win. Will the gov't do it anyway? most likely.

Britain does have a rate of foriegn aid to GDP that is higher than most other countries. That's food, water, medical and building supplies, agricultural assistance and many other means of aid. Its the **** on our stick though. It means we commit ourselves to a degree that we have to get involved if things go tits up for those nations, and also, means we have to borrow more money from the IMF to pay for things within our own border, meaning more debt to the Federal Reserve, ergo, a bargaining chip for the world police to lever our assistance to thier warmongering.

So, to your question, What has the Monarchy ever done for me and why am i proud of them?

Glad you asked. I've never try to hide the fact that my views are a tad different to most people on this forum, and this is one occasion where i get to say my peice, regardless of what anyone else thinks.

The Monarchy actually has done things for me, and indeed a great number of people within this nation, most of which don't even know it.

Have you ever heard of the Duke of Edinburgh award? I took part in that. I was a very shy child, didn't mix well outside my small social group. My self confidence was shockingly low, i'd even say it wasn't more than two steps from suicidal for a while. When i was sat down by my teacher and he explained to me what the Duke of Edinburgh award was i was terrified that he'd actually sign me up for it, luckily, i was more terrified that i'd suffer at school if i didn't so reluctantly agreed to it. Changed my life. I never even left the school grounds, didnt do the walks, the adventure weekends, but still, working on things with people i didn't know, where i could just be me and learn to intergrate better turned my life around. The Monarchy set that scheme up. They also had a hand on setting up the Army Cadets which i was also a member of. That really did change my life.

So, you asked, i told you.

Then of course we have the Prince's Trust, a great and far reaching charity that is trying to help build a better future for the youth of today and provide a better life for those that need it and want to change. The international charity work that the Monarchy promote and support is awe inspiring in its scope and volume, and they are a great symbol of continuity and strength. Look at Coventry in the second world war for example. The were hit by a savage and unrelenting bombardment which levelled most of the city in the course of a single night. The next morning the King was walking the streets, not to survey the damage, but to inspire, to improve morale, to show that just as the soldiers out on the front lines cared about their families back home, so too did the Monarchy. It worked.

I think everyone is overly critical and quick to judge them, and some of the theories are truly insane. I know we live in a mad world, but come on.

Tangri
19th March 2011, 02:42
Sorry guys, I can't link the article as it is in the current print edition.

It did contain a map showing all lands the Queen has dominion over. I have to admit I didn't read the full article. Should the article be right and she is "legal" owner of these lands then, in my opinion, she will never be "lawful" owner. The whole familiy are a disgrace to the UK, as is the UK's role in supression of other races throughout history, in my humble opinion.
Here some link;
http://www.newstatesman.com/global-issues/2011/03/land-queen-world-australia