Could this be you? Garret LoPorto and the Wayseer Manifesto

[Constance]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA

[Heart-2-Heart]

This should be watched by all.. Avalonians....
Thank you Constance...:wave:
H2H

[Constance]

:)
You are very welcome H2H
I just watched it again for the umpteenth time and it still sent shivers down my spine :)

[Calz]

Dang it ... yet another video that made me cry.

I guess I am getting too soft in my old age.

Thanks so much for that Constance :)

That was most excellent!!!

[Maria Stade]

Thank you !
Yes step in to your light !
:grouphug:

[Anchor]

( Its on Youtube as an HD 720p vid - good if you want to shake up a few financial industry presentations and get yourself fired in style - and there are links to other places where you can download it if you dont know how to rip YT vids :-> )

Here is the URL to see the vid on YT directly https://youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA



"We are all the same
you know
because we are affected by the way
We are all the same
you know
because we are attracted to the flame"


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Update: I still like this video, but I think there are a few things I am not happy about in it. Remember we are humans. We control more than we think. We don't need to be led. We don't need technology. We don't need to make a new existence. We need to love.

[sygh]

:)
You are very welcome H2H
I just watched it again for the umpteenth time and it still sent shivers down my spine :)

Eyes filled with tears of joy! Never, in my whole life, have I heard truer words that describe what "the way", or God is. Bless all of you. Thank you, Constance.

[aikisaw]

Thank you so much for posting this. What a great way to start the day. Going to watch it for the 3rd time .

[Kimberley]

This is perfect whooo hoo... I shared it all over the place....
Much love to us ALL!!! :love"

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just about to post this vid...you beat me to it Constance!!

viking

[Dennis Jonathan]

Amazing...

Everything the establishment has told you is wrong with you, is right with you.

[karelia]

This is beautiful. So empowering. Yes. Must spread. :)

[tkh123186]

Excellent video, thanks for this.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Avalonians = Way showers = Awesome :)

[Come As You Are]

way way way cool!

[shadowstalker]

I danced
I sang
And I didn't care that folks saw me insane.
I am what they are afraid of.
LIFE......INCARNATE

[Constance]

whooooooooo hoooooooooooo!!!!!



Makes my heart explode with love into the universe!!! Way showers, I love you...

[Fred Steeves]

Great video Constance Neal, thank you! I posted it on the Matrix Energetics forum I'm on, they'll love it.


Cheers,
Fred S.

[Constance]

Hey Fred S,
Keeper of the Flame!!!!!!!! :)

[Stuart M.]

whooooooooo hoooooooooooo!!!!!



Makes my heart explode with love into the universe!!! Way showers, I love you...

Apperently so Constance. At once, upon HEARING your Whoooooo hooooooooo !!!!!, the love entered my heart on the other side of the planet!!! Powerful, humbling, brought me straight to tears! You are blessed in your giving and I in recieving! :o

Heartfelt Love and Grattitude to You Constance Neal and All,

Stuart

[InTheBackground]

I am, and always have been, a keeper of the flame... Every experience I have had in my lifetime, every challenge, every triumph, was designed to bring me to that point of awareness and discovery.

I've reposted this to my blog and my 40K+ readers... many of whom have long been searching for or who were well on their way already toward finding what this video calls The Way. ;>

[11alone]

Made me tear, I needed this. Thank you!. :grouphug:

[mmfk]

thank you! :)
spreading it

[exponentialist]

I TOTALLY needed to see this video today. Whoa. I saw my children in that video. THANK YOU and big hug to you Constance.

[Hughe]

Thanks a lot.

HA~ I saw myself there too.

[honeybee]

Thanks for posting this Constance. I woke up this morning thinking ...I really should start trying to fit in more and stop thinking and behaving like such a weirdo...lol....this really cheered me up!!

[Creative Lorraine]

Oh WOW I was Moved!! Thank you and Yes This is ME!!

LUV
Lorraine

[slipknotted]

that was cool thanks after realizing today that my fight to keep a roof over my head im losing that put a smile on my long face thanks

[Constance]

that was cool thanks after realizing today that my fight to keep a roof over my head im losing that put a smile on my long face thanks

Oh! Slipknoted! that is terrible!!! But I am so glad that you can still smile for it sounds like you still know who you are despite facing such great adversity.
And in this great adversity, how can we best assist you?

[Constance]

Thanks for posting this Constance. I woke up this morning thinking ...I really should start trying to fit in more and stop thinking and behaving like such a weirdo...lol....this really cheered me up!!

You are so very welcome and I'm so glad you realised this!!! :) We are all the same. :)

[Mike Gorman]

I had a strong reaction to this, it seems almost too slick and perfectly targeted at the genuine people who
live life at a different tangent to the 'mainstream'. Don't get me wrong I love the message, and i feel the
energy of this-but I cannot help being a little skeptical of the underlying motive, it is a very glossy and well thought-out
piece of work-and the Audio enhancement technology really pushes the passion-but there is a monetary side to it,
and I just wonder-maybe too perfect a message?

[str8thinker]

What an empowering performance. After hearing it I wanted to rush out and do something impulsive. Exactly what, I'll leave to your imagination. But I'm glad I wasn't behind the wheel, or high on something. :)

I admit I enjoyed the music and Garret John Loporto's rabble-rousing rhetoric. But after the euphoria had worn off, some of the lyrics began to concern me, so this time I went to the Manifesto home page, discovered someone had transcribed the lyrics, copied them and corrected numerous typos and transcription errors. Here they are, verbatim.

It bothers me that this combination of loud rhythmic music and emotive visuals are can be so distracting that it becomes easy for the mind to accept the content of the lyrics literally and uncritically (a technique beloved by the Illuminati), just as little children instantly accept what is told them and make it part of their world, having nothing else to compare it with. Being adults, we pride ourselves on having learned to filter BS out. So let's leave out the music and visuals, examine the text of this manifesto (why does this word always remind me of Communists?) and see what Loporto is really asking us to swallow.



ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers, all you free spirits and pioneers, all you visionaries and non-conformists:

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you is actually what's right with you.

You see things others don’t. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike nine out of ten people, your mind is irrepressible, and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can’t stand rules because in your heart you know there’s a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment, and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you’ve been told your strengths were weaknesses - Now I’m telling you otherwise.

Your impulsivity is a gift. Impulses are your key to the miraculous.

So impulsive behavior and rejection of all rules is okay, right?


Your distractibility is an artifact of your inspired creativity.

Your mood swings reflect the natural pulse of life. They give you unstoppable energy when you're high, deep soulful insight when you're low.

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That’s society’s latest way to deny its own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection. Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn’t anyone ever tell you?

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries, innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets, mavericks, philosophers, derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders, prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.

This should comfort and give hope to all those troubled and lonely teenagers out there with poor concentration, ADD, in fact, any "disorder" at all. There's hope for you yet. Sir Richard Branson is a dyslectic, so you're not alone. However, an addict is something different. I'm not sure it's a good thing telling sex addicts and alcoholics that it's okay to continue behaving that way as it indicates heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection. Oh, and keep drinking Red Bull (caffeine) for that unstoppable energy.


CHORUS
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all affected, by The Way
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all attracted to the flame.

This is getting to sound more like a conformity cult. Have some KoolAid. And do you know what else gets attracted to the flame? Moths.


You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "The Way."

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as The Will of God, Divine Providence, The Holy Spirit, the Implicate Order, the Tao, reverse entropy, life force, but for now we’ll simply call it 'The Way.' The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire...love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it, giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius; perceived through the eyes, is beauty; felt through the senses, is grace. When allowed into the heart...is love.

Loporto will have to wait in line here, behind sages who promulgated this concept centuries before he arrived. The Chinese got there first, with Taoism, Tao meaning "The Way". Then, in John 14:6, Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one goes to the Father except through Me." So this excludes Loporto. Last, some of these sentiments sound very similar to those expressed by Yoda. May the Way be with you.

The 'Implicate Order' bit is interesting. Look up David Bohm.


Most people cannot sense The Way directly...but then there are the Wayseers, the keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing The Way. They sense it in their very being. They can’t tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can’t show their work, so don’t ask. Their minds simply resonate with The Way. When The Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, The Way stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people’s awareness of The Way. Censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex, the Gestapo of the brain. Nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through. But your mind is different. Your mind has been cracked wide open to The Way; by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your own soul. Your brain’s reward pathways have been hijacked; dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex. Now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious - through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness, showing you The Way. This is what makes you a Wayseer.

IMO this is not only bullsh*t, it's dangerous bullsh*t. The prefrontal cortex is not the brain's censor, the limbic system (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/1361092/Scientists-locate-brains-censor.html) is. Worse, Loporto doesn't make it clear who employs dopamine to overthrow the fascist dictatorship. Dopamine stimulates motivations and lifts undecisiveness, so chemically heightened levels make you feel fufilled at a basic level without actually doing anything. When dopamine is administered, undecisiveness gives rise to self-confidence. If dopamine is overactivated, then self-confidence increases to the point of being delusional! Cocaine blocks the uptake and subsequent destruction of excess dopamine and the amphetamines also block reuptake of the released dopamine, extending the effects for hours. This is why drugs like cocaine and the amphetamines are so addictive. You feel perfectly at peace and fufilled to the point that nothing (like food, etc.) matters. Well, now I can see what he means by "Your mind has been 'cracked' (interesting choice of term here, suggesting crack cocaine) wide open...by some...psychotropic chemical". Does this imply Wayseers are encouraged to take drugs? I hope not.


Ninety percent of human civilization is populated with those whose brains are blocked to The Way. Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind. These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples’ minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff. Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games. Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality, they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with The Way.

This reminds me a lot of the teachings of Scientology; for 'Wayseer', read 'preclear'. Take a look at Hubbard's 1950 book "Dianetics: The Science of Mental Health". He would have approved of Loporto.


Wayseers are an ancient lineage - a kind of priesthood, carriers of the flame, ones "in the know." There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society, giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage. So Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society, to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.

What ancient lineage? Oh, I get it - a stained glass window depicting a medieval knight in shining armor, positively Avalonian. At this point Loporto's rhetoric carries him away, much like a revivalist preacher. Perhaps he got his training from some New Age Christian Church like Hellsong. In my day there was Billy Graham for whom we were invited to "make a decision". And later there was Tony Robbins.


Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.

Some creative or disruptive act, eh? Hand me the spraycan of paint, or better still, that Molotov cocktail. Well, let's have a show of hands. Who's going to be first to hang the bell around the cat's neck?


CHORUS
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all affected, by The Way
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer.
You’ve found your tribe.
Welcome home.

Baaa, as David Icke would say. With all due respect, Constance, thanks all the same, but it could not be me.

By the way (excuse the pun), Wayseers isn't the only venture Loporto has his sticky fingers in. Check out The Da Vinci Method (http://www.davincimethod.com/). Look similar? Dan Brown, are you there?

[Bill Ryan]

By the way (excuse the pun), Wayseers isn't the only venture Loporto has his sticky fingers in. Check out The Da Vinci Method (http://www.davincimethod.com/). Look similar? Dan Brown, are you there?

You've not quite dug deeply enough - I think. I usually admire your contributions, but here you sound like Zook! (This is not a compliment. :) )

See http://loporto.com. He's campaigning for ADHD sufferers (adults as well as children), and the Da Vinci Method is a non-drug technique to assist those folks.

That's cool with me. It's his urge to overcome ADHD and help others that drives him, and that's the thread that runs through his work.

Read this: It's inspiring stuff, and I can't fault it.

http://huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto/class-of-2010-epic-fail-w_b_607560.html

He's already successful in conventional terms. Here's his bio:

http://huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto





Author, speaker, inventor, successful entrepreneur, depth psychologist and political activist Garret LoPorto has been written about in The New York Times, Money Magazine, The London Financial Times, and The Boston Globe and many other national newspapers. He and his projects have been featured on national television, including CNN and ABC, and on Nitebeat and MIT TV.

Garret LoPorto was founder and CEO of a multi-million dollar technology & media company. He has worked in Microsoft Research - a prestigious think tank where some of the most gifted thinkers perform advanced work in computer sciences.

He has spoken for many prestigious audiences including Massachusetts Institute of Technology, University of Massachusetts and The Computer Freedom and Privacy Convention.

Garret resides in Massachusetts with his wife and two children.

I found all that out in the last 10 minutes - I'd not heard of him before. I'd like to know more about this guy. Not everyone who speaks out in favor of individuality (or social justice, on another thread!) is a mischievous provocateur.

Some of them (including yours truly, and many people I know personally) are totally genuine, and use whatever resources they have on hand to activate what Maslow called self-actualization.

[jorr lundstrom]

Understanding is always a heart issue.:grouphug:

[Constance]

Baaa, as David Icke would say. With all due respect, Constance, thanks all the same, but it could not be me.



Thats perfectly okay with me Str8. :)

Information is the same as disinformation if a person is void of inspiration.

with much Love and Light,
Constance

[modwiz]

Thank you Constance. I broke free in 1988. Gave up my job with a pension and health insurance and went to work in a New Age bookstore and sold herbs and essential oils on the side. Began studying massage therapy.

I changed my diet and doctors became unnecessary for me. I make my own hours and live by my own biological clock. (No kids helps).

I have always shared my ideas and revelations despite being largely ignored. I entertained others with my "original" ideas. It was a life where you got little support from most. Being selective of friends and acquaintances is important for staying on the path. Things have improved a bit but 20+ years later people are proving stubborn still.

I think the Earth changes and shifts will help with the awakening process.

[karelia]

It bothers me that this combination of loud rhythmic music and emotive visuals are can be so distracting that it becomes easy for the mind to accept the content of the lyrics literally and uncritically (a technique beloved by the Illuminati), just as little children instantly accept what is told them and make it part of their world, having nothing else to compare it with. Being adults, we pride ourselves on having learned to filter BS out. So let's leave out the music and visuals, examine the text of this manifesto (why does this word always remind me of Communists?) and see what Loporto is really asking us to swallow.

I agree on the title; it does sound communist. The thing is, is it programming or not? Because, manifesto is defined is follows:

man·i·fes·to
   /ˌmænəˈfɛstoʊ/ Show Spelled[man-uh-fes-toh] Show IPA
–noun, plural -toes.
a public declaration of intentions, opinions, objectives, or motives, as one issued by a government, sovereign, or organization.

So, is it really communism or just perception?


ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers, all you free spirits and pioneers, all you visionaries and non-conformists:

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you is actually what's right with you.

You see things others don’t. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike nine out of ten people, your mind is irrepressible, and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can’t stand rules because in your heart you know there’s a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment, and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you’ve been told your strengths were weaknesses - Now I’m telling you otherwise.

Your impulsivity is a gift. Impulses are your key to the miraculous.


So impulsive behavior and rejection of all rules is okay, right?

Uhuh. The only law that should count is natural law.


Your distractibility is an artifact of your inspired creativity.

Your mood swings reflect the natural pulse of life. They give you unstoppable energy when you're high, deep soulful insight when you're low.

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That’s society’s latest way to deny its own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection. Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn’t anyone ever tell you?

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries, innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets, mavericks, philosophers, derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders, prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


This should comfort and give hope to all those troubled and lonely teenagers out there with poor concentration, ADD, in fact, any "disorder" at all. There's hope for you yet. Sir Richard Branson is a dyslectic, so you're not alone. However, an addict is something different. I'm not sure it's a good thing telling sex addicts and alcoholics that it's okay to continue behaving that way as it indicates heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection. Oh, and keep drinking Red Bull (caffeine) for that unstoppable energy.

Please note that this addictive personality (ADD, ADHD, Autism, Alcoholism, and too many to name in addition) has been bestowed upon the world by the powers that that be. And those powers are satanic. Can you really blame anyone not on that path to find some measure of comfort by giving in to drink, smoke, ODD, ADD, etc?


CHORUS
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all affected, by The Way
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all attracted to the flame.


This is getting to sound more like a conformity cult. Have some KoolAid. And do you know what else gets attracted to the flame? Moths.

To my mind, 'We are all the same' translates into 'We are all one.'


You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "The Way."

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as The Will of God, Divine Providence, The Holy Spirit, the Implicate Order, the Tao, reverse entropy, life force, but for now we’ll simply call it 'The Way.' The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire...love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it, giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius; perceived through the eyes, is beauty; felt through the senses, is grace. When allowed into the heart...is love.


Loporto will have to wait in line here, behind sages who promulgated this concept centuries before he arrived. The Chinese got there first, with Taoism, Tao meaning "The Way". Then, in John 14:6, Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one goes to the Father except through Me." So this excludes Loporto. Last, some of these sentiments sound very similar to those expressed by Yoda. May the Way be with you.

Yes, there is an "order." There are those who are evolved and those who haven't. Those who have evolved more will help those who haven't yet. Quite simple, isn't it? You help a child learn, won't you?


The 'Implicate Order' bit is interesting. Look up David Bohm.


Most people cannot sense The Way directly... but then there are the Wayseers, the keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing The Way. They sense it in their very being. They can’t tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can’t show their work, so don’t ask. Their minds simply resonate with The Way. When The Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, The Way stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people’s awareness of The Way. Censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex, the Gestapo of the brain. Nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through. But your mind is different. Your mind has been cracked wide open to The Way; by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your own soul. Your brain’s reward pathways have been hijacked; dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex. Now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious - through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness, showing you The Way. This is what makes you a Wayseer.


IMO this is not only bullsh*t, it's dangerous bullsh*t. The prefrontal cortex is not the brain's censor, the limbic system (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/1361092/Scientists-locate-brains-censor.html) is. Worse, Loporto doesn't make it clear who employs dopamine to overthrow the fascist dictatorship. Dopamine stimulates motivations and lifts undecisiveness, so chemically heightened levels make you feel fufilled at a basic level without actually doing anything. When dopamine is administered, undecisiveness gives rise to self-confidence. If dopamine is overactivated, then self-confidence increases to the point of being delusional! Cocaine blocks the uptake and subsequent destruction of excess dopamine and the amphetamines also block reuptake of the released dopamine, extending the effects for hours. This is why drugs like cocaine and the amphetamines are so addictive. You feel perfectly at peace and fufilled to the point that nothing (like food, etc.) matters. Well, now I can see what he means by "Your mind has been 'cracked' (interesting choice of term here, suggesting crack cocaine) wide open...by some...psychotropic chemical". Does this imply Wayseers are encouraged to take drugs? I hope not.

No, it's not BS. 90% or more of humanity are so programmed that anything that's un-PC causes attacks on the messenger. When you've arrived at a real truth (not my truth, not your truth, but the truth), you will increase your power, your inner power, and that allows you to be less judgemental. IT has nothing to do with the way a drugged individual feels. You will know, simply because you know the truth.


Ninety percent of human civilization is populated with those whose brains are blocked to The Way. Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind. These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples’ minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff. Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games. Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality, they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with The Way.


This reminds me a lot of the teachings of Scientology; for 'Wayseer', read 'preclear'. Take a look at Hubbard's 1950 book "Dianetics: The Science of Mental Health". He would have approved of Loporto.

There is a clear difference between the original scientology and what it is today.


Wayseers are an ancient lineage - a kind of priesthood, carriers of the flame, ones "in the know." There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society, giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage. So Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society, to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.


What ancient lineage? Oh, I get it - a stained glass window depicting a medieval knight in shining armor, positively Avalonian. At this point Loporto's rhetoric carries him away, much like a revivalist preacher. Perhaps he got his training from some New Age Christian Church like Hellsong. In my day there was Billy Graham for whom we were invited to "make a decision". And later there was Tony Robbins.[/iquote]

I believe this ancient lineage goes back to Adam, who had two sons. One was said to be evil, the other benevolent.

[QUOTE]Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.


Some creative or disruptive act, eh? Hand me the spraycan of paint, or better still, that Molotov cocktail. Well, let's have a show of hands. Who's going to be first to hang the bell around the cat's neck?

Creative in terms of creations, disruptive in terms of disrupting the blatant satanism that is gripping our world. I see nothing wrong with that.


CHORUS
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all affected, by The Way
We are all the same, you know
'cause we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer.
You’ve found your tribe.
Welcome home.


Baaa, as David Icke would say. With all due respect, Constance, thanks all the same, but it could not be me.

Aren't we all one, at the end of the day (a very long day, I'll admit)?

Frankly, if you seek truth, you will find a lot of it in this very video, and that is all that counts, isn't it?

[honeybee]

I had a strong reaction to this, it seems almost too slick and perfectly targeted at the genuine people who
live life at a different tangent to the 'mainstream'. Don't get me wrong I love the message, and i feel the
energy of this-but I cannot help being a little skeptical of the underlying motive, it is a very glossy and well thought-out
piece of work-and the Audio enhancement technology really pushes the passion-but there is a monetary side to it,
and I just wonder-maybe too perfect a message?

You can download the first chapter of the book he's promoting by clicking on the link below the u tube clip. I just read it, but there's nothing in there that would lead me to think the author is being anything other than altruistic in intent, with a genuine desire to help other people. He also has a donate button on his website underneath this text:

"We've refused to be bought out by multinational corporations who have already tried to "sign" us in order to control and profit from this message. We could have used their money to get thing off the ground, but we didn't, because this movement is your movement - not the Establishment's."

[Icecold]

Thank you Constance. That was the first of the inspirational videos with which I resonate.

Here is something worth the wait. The elites will despair when they see this and they will challenge it.

No matter. lol

It is about rebellion, it is about revolution and it is about tearing down the soul destroying system that enslaves us. There is no call to sit back and let it happen here....its action, and reaction.

To do, be active and make change.

Do not heed those that call you to do nothing, to follow their rules and wait for salvation.

That is elite speak.

Take action and create change. Just do it.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Brilliant.

[ROMANWKT]

I'm afraid that I have to agree with STR8.
By my understanding , the brain sees all things upside-down and in reverse, that's the first thing that is recorded by the subconscious, then reversed again and corrected by the brain. the most revered word on planet earth is goDDog, now why would somebody do that??????? Our language and sounds are being used against us all. the refined English, check the sound it makes forwards and backwards,and reverse.
the WAY is the way of YAWEH.
roman

[Constance]

Thank you Constance. I broke free in 1988. Gave up my job with a pension and health insurance and went to work in a New Age bookstore and sold herbs and essential oils on the side. Began studying massage therapy.

I changed my diet and doctors became unnecessary for me. I make my own hours and live by my own biological clock. (No kids helps).

I have always shared my ideas and revelations despite being largely ignored. I entertained others with my "original" ideas. It was a life where you got little support from most. Being selective of friends and acquaintances is important for staying on the path. Things have improved a bit but 20+ years later people are proving stubborn still.

I think the Earth changes and shifts will help with the awakening process.

Oh Modwiz!

You are so very welcome :)

Wow!!! You have been on the path for some time then! :)

Your story is awe-inspiring and your tenacity in continuing to share your truth in the face of such adversity is utterly magnificant :)

Thank you ...

You've just sent me into bliss again... :)

I'm so grateful that you share here.

My cup runneth over...


with much Love and Light,
Constance

[Constance]

Thank you Constance. That was the first of the inspirational videos with which I resonate.

Here is something worth the wait. The elites will despair when they see this and they will challenge it.

No matter. lol

It is about rebellion, it is about revolution and it is about tearing down the soul destroying system that enslaves us. There is no call to sit back and let it happen here....its action, and reaction.

To do, be active and make change.

Do not heed those that call you to do nothing, to follow their rules and wait for salvation.

That is elite speak.

Take action and create change. Just do it.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Brilliant.


You are very welcome David.

I felt so totally transported by that video.

It was completely inspiring and uplifting to me. I had some profound realisations from that video.

They were realisations of the heart.


It felt utterly empowering and liberating.

It inspired me to share it with others.

Be, do and then tell.

Thank you David.... :)

[Anchor]

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The lyrics without any commentary.

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ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers - all you free spirits and pioneers - all you visionaries and non-conformists ...

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you- is more likely what's right with you.

You see things others don’t. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike 9 out of 10 people - your mind is irrepressable - and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can’t stand rules because in your heart you know there’s a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment - and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you’ve been told your strengths were weaknesses - Now I’m telling you otherwise.

Your impulsivity is a gift - impulses are your key to the miraculous,

Your distractibility - is an artifact of your inspired creativity,

Your mood swings - reflect the natural pulse of life, they give you unstoppable energy when you’re high and deep soulful insight when you’re low,

Been diagnosed with a "disorder”? That’s society’s latest way to deny it’s own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection. your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn’t anyone ever tell you?! these are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries and innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets and mavericks, philosophers and derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders - prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


We are - all - the same - you know
‘cuz we’re all affected by the way -
We are - all - the same - you know
‘cuz we’re all attracted to the flame -


You know in your heart that there's a natural order to life, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "the Way."

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as the Will of God, Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit, the implicate order, the Tao, reverse-entropy, life-force, but for now we’ll simply call it "the Way." The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire - love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it by reflecting divine order. The Way, when experienced by the mind, is genius, when perceived through the eyes is beauty, when felt with the senses is grace, when allowed into the heart ... is love.

Most people cannot sense the Way directly. ... But then there are the Wayseers. The keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing the Way. They sense it in their very being. They can’t tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can’t show their work. So don’t ask. Their minds simply resonate with the Way. When the Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, “the Way” stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people’s awareness of the Way - censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex - the gestapo of the brain - nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through; but your mind is different. your mind has been cracked wide open to the Way - by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your very soul, your brain’s reward pathways have been hijacked - dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex - now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious - through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness showing you the Way. This is what makes you a Wayseer.

90% of human civilization is populated with those who’s brains are blocked to the Way. Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind. These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples’ minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage - This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff. Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games. Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality - they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with the Way.

The Wayseers are an ancient lineage. A kind of priesthood - carriers of the flame - ones "in the know." There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning gears of society - giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage - so Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society - to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth -

Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity


We are - all - the same - you know
‘cuz we’re all affected by the way -
We are - all - the same - you know
‘cuz we’re all attracted to the flame -

This is your calling, Wayseer.

You’ve found your tribe.

Welcome home.

[str8thinker]

Thanks Bill Ryan for taking me up on this - I did not see those links when I googled him.

When Constance Neal first posted the Wayseers Manifesto video I checked the YouTube comments, but nothing in WayseerNews' (LoPorto's) notes mentioned ADD (aka ADHD, Attention Deficit (Hyperactivity) Disorder). I wondered why the misinformed crap about the prefrontal cortex being the 'censor' and the dopamine stuff managed to find their way into the video lyrics: now I understand. After all, Wayseers has nothing to do with the Da Vinci method; it's obviously a spinoff from his earlier success, using the same tactics.

Even the Wayseers.org (http://www.wayseers.org/) site mentions nothing at all about ADD. Nothing at all. Check it out.

When I finally stumbled across the Da Vinci Method (http://www.davincimethod.com/) site, it too mentioned nothing about ADD on its front page, which is why nothing about it suggested to me LoPorto might be using it to help those with ADD. The big red banner simply says (similar to Wayseers)


Discover the secret to harnessing your DaVinci-type personality just like the world's most successful entrepreneurs, artists and inventors.

But LoPorto is a man of many websites.

Two of the links in your reply refer to his Class of 2010: Epic Fail article. One is in the mostly well-regarded Huffington Post; the other is on one of his other sites, LoPorto.com. Surprise, surprise; the HP article is a mirror of his own. No objective reporting here. What about that bio on him, also in the HP that you quoted? Surprise, surprise again; apart from the first paragraph, the wording is identical to his bio on the About Garret (http://www.davincimethod.com/garretloporto.html) page of the Da Vinci Method site. I wonder who wrote that?

Interestingly, one difference between the two is that the HP claims that he is a "depth psychologist", a term not used in his own bio. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_psychology),


The term has come to refer to the ongoing development of theories and therapies pioneered by Pierre Janet, William James, Sigmund Freud, and Carl Jung. Depth psychology explores the relationship between the conscious and the unconscious and includes both psychoanalysis and Jungian psychology.

Impressive. So what qualifications has he for this profession? None that I can find. What scientific papers has he written? None that I am aware of. Unfortunately for my research, the term "Da Vinci method "is more widely known in the medical world as a form of hysterectomy.

But LoPorto's love affair with the Huffington Post as a source of free publicity does not end there. Indeed, other articles from his websites have appeared, such as Surprising Way Your Neanderthal Genes May Affect You (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto/surprising-way-your-neand_b_568455.html), in which Loporto, "Author, speaker, inventor, successful entrepreneur, depth psychologist and Neanderthal" voices his theory that


It may be our Neanderthal genes that are behind virtually all human progress. New DNA data reveals that many of us are carrying Neanderthal genes. And not only that, but evidence is mounting that when those genes are activated in you, they can cause you to become incredibly resourceful, pioneering, creative... and utterly out of control.


http://www.davincimethod.com/assets/images/garret-loporto.jpg

I'm relieved to see him use the word "may" above, though quite frankly, when I see this pic of him from his website, it's not too hard to agree with this ancestry.

But he has written a book, The Da Vinci Method. Intrigued by this apparent lack of peer review, I came across this short thread in Yahoo! Answers (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071028044844AAfOOn3):


Are there any serious critical reviews of the Da Vinci Method by Garret Loporto? The book deals with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and I was wondering whether there was any consensus among thoughtful critics (assuming they exist) concerning the merits of this book? I found lots of advertising for the book, but almost no serious critical reviews of the book. I guess I want to know whether the book is generally respected by members of the psychological community who specialize in the study and treatment of ADHD.

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
Negative evidence only: I don't find any mention of it at Google Scholar nor do I find it at the Gale databases. That's not a good sign for serious peer-reviewed journals. In general searches, I find only popular reviews (amazon.com) so I would be wary.

Undeterred by this, I visited the Amazon website to check out Customer Reviews of The Da Vinci Method - Break Out & Express Your Fire (http://www.amazon.com/Vinci-Method-Break-Express-Your/dp/0977486001/) (perhaps not suited to an ADHD sufferer with arsonist tendencies). Out of 33 reviews so far, it scored 4.5 out of 5, though one reader described it as "part self-help, part ego trip" and another said


"The absence of method is the method", finally on page 246 Loporto reveals the truth. He wrote a book to make you feel good. It says absolutley (sic) nothing - but that is his method.

Incidentally, for those who have not visited his Wayseer website, LoPorto has just written a book named The Wayseer Manifesto.

The best review I could find of LoPorto's work came from, of all places, the Education In Japan Community Blog (http://educationinjapan.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/davinci-method-treat-adddavinci-personality-not-a-medical-disorder-but-a-genetic-personality-strength/). It is quite a comprehensive article and compares the Da Vinci method with other therapies. Quoting selectively from it (underlining is mine):


Firstly, the Da Vinci Method theory says ADD/ADHD is not a disorder at all but is simply a hereditary or genetic condition that is found in persons who bear a gene (possibly a number of genes) but in particular the gene DRD4 7R allele that is present in about 10% of the world’s population and up to 25% of Americans. The gene has a high prevalence in successful entrepreneurs and creative or highly successful people who have a capability to ‘think outside the box’. Persons with this genetic and personality trait possess a different manner of brain operation. According to DaVinci personality trait theory, the ADD/ADHD gene affects the brain’s relationship with dopamine; this difference causes the ADDer to crave stimulation and to seek thrills, take risks, discover new ways to do things, be bolder, and have more charisma. It is this temperament accompanying this genetic difference that happens to be the same temperament that makes rock stars, inventors, artists and athletes, entrepreneurs, leaders and billionaires successful.

...

Why the DaVinci behind the DaVinci Method name?

LoPorto explained, “Leonardo Da Vinci most certainly demonstrated many of the ADHD spectrum of behaviours, and it is from this most famous of individuals that this therapy approach takes its name. In 67 years, Da Vinci was only able to complete 17 of his paintings; he stated that this was because his interests were so varied and diverse. Einstein did not excel at school, and his achievements there were entirely unremarkable, and yet, both of these individuals became some of the greatest thinkers and achievers in the history of humanity.”

In one interview, LoPorto said,

“I based my theory of a Da Vinci Method on a German psychoanalyst named Otto Rank. He was a protégé of Sigmund Freud. Rank discovered that the best therapy for a creative was a brief encounter to force them into their own will and volition to do what they really wanted to do. Rank was an advocate for strength but as psychoanalysis got popular it became obvious that Rank’s approach only worked for the Da Vinci type. There are only 10 to 25 percent of these kinds of individuals in any given population.”

Da Vinci Method approach to education for ADDers is that parents and teachers channel children’s energies rather than normalise them

The Da Vinci method argues that rather than “normalise” the ADD child because of the burden it places on both parents and teachers in their efforts to make a child conform to the norms of society, their energies should instead be focused and channelled in accordance with the child’s DaVinci personality or nature to maximise that potential for brilliance. In particular, the method theorises that children with ADHD need a completely educational environment or teaching approach to ‘normal children. Children with ADHD/DaVinci personalities need a focus on experiential learning rather than using set text book methodologies to solve problems. ADHD children will then tap into their innate skills though often using unusual ways to solve problems, and reaching the ‘right’ answers.

The book ”The Da Vinci Method” offers up a summary of a host of research and educational theories on holistic therapies that expert scientists, educators and psychologists have been proposing since the 1990s. It suggests that these therapeutic approaches are worth investigating by parents of an ADHD child (and indeed by an adult ADHD sufferer). As such, it provides a wholly novel way of thinking about and coping with the problems of attention deficit disorder.

The ADD/ADHD gene affects the brain’s relationship with dopamine. This difference causes one to crave stimulation just to feel alive. When you crave stimulation you are more likely to seek thrills, take risks, discover new ways to do things, be bolder, and have more charisma. The temperament that accompanies this genetic difference happens to be the same temperament that makes rock stars, inventors, artists and athletes, entrepreneurs, leaders and billionaires successful.”

At one interview, LoPorto advocated special schools and different educational environments for ADD/DaVinci type children to help them:

“Find the constructive outlet to get your fire going and come alive. Be self-directed but with boundaries. The more a Da Vinci child can choose their own direction and be master of their own fate the more you have an engaged child. The way one is taught has a huge impact. Science projects got me going. I pursued them relentlessly until an amazing creation happened. A lot of others would appreciate this way. Teachers are teaching to the test. School systems originated in Germany. So we have an educational institution designed to break the will by a military-industrial complex.”

That line will surely strike a consonant chord with homeschoolers.

While LoPorto’s best-selling book “DaVinci Method” is “hot” with the ADD community and parents who feel his method is a lifeline thrown to them since the ADD children can have a disruptive effect on families, there are strangely no articles written by more weighty academic peers and experts reviewing the DaVinci method, whether for or against on the same topic, … which may suggest that LoPorto as an author lacks scientific or academic credibility.

Unendorsed by scientists as the DaVinci Method may be, there are other writings that are not at odds with the method’s ideas about ADD and creativity. [similar therapies discussed]

...

"The DaVinci Method is over 200 pages of the most useful therapy ever designed for helping creative types like you be more productive. We don’t teach you to sit still and focus on details, we teach you how to embrace your ability to see the BIG PICTURE, set trends and lead the pack. You are gifted to have the ADD/ADHD gene."

This highly promotional advertising note on LoPorto’s website strikes some people as overly gimmicky. The proponent of the DaVinci method, Garret LoPorto is still more famous as a successful entrepreneur, CEO, presenter at MIT, U.S. & International patent-pending inventor who has been featured in The New York Times, Money Magazine, The Boston Globe and The London Financial Times, than psycho-therapy expert on ADD.

But gimmicky or not, perhaps part of the appeal of his theory and his book, is that he speaks with experience as an ADDer himself (it must help that he’s a highly successful entrepreneur and millionaire), and perhaps because he genuinely seems to care. LoPorto revealed his reasons during an interview for coming up with the DaVinci Method:

“When developing the concept I was looking for a new label. One that would hopefully begin to catch on in the school systems, where young children are developing their own self identities and concepts. We need a label that teachers, instructors, guardians, and parents could give to children to empower instead of disable them. The disorder label of ADHD is based on temperament and a self-identification process which one believes and then goes on to manifest symptoms based on those beliefs. Another way to look at it is to notice how before we got the label ADHD there was the term troubled child. Kids were burdened with this concept of being trouble. Look at Richard Branson. He typifies the Da Vinci type. They either end up billionaires or in prison. Thomas Edison was unteachable but look how brilliant he was. So the empowering label is Da Vinci. This describes high energy and very creative children who bounce around when inspired. If they find something that keeps their focus it can evoke them to be what they really can be. Da Vinci and Edison are great examples of that. Da Vinci was so archetypical in artistic and scientific endeavors.”

And although self-billed as an expert on ADD (NOT autism though) at his promotional website, he issues an inspirational “call to be true to one’s own “ADD” nature“. Whatever LoPorto’s concept lacks in credibility, it more than makes up for in accessibility and popularity. Many will probably heed his call.

A shorter article appeared in Cerebra, a patient self-help site for ADHD sufferers, titled
Other Approaches
(http://www.cerebra.org.uk/parent_support/information_and_advice/adhd_information/approaches/other_approaches)

Creativity-based approaches
Mostly explained in popular books, these approaches encourage the person with AD(H)D to take advantage of their potentially creative characteristics. The books point out that some highly successful people have had, or may have had AD(H)D. They include the ‘Da Vinci Method’, and a range of personal development titles, available from Internet booksellers and elsewhere. A different perspective.

One of my friends is a lady with a long experience teaching ADHD children in "special schools"; she also has a child afflicted by this. I asked her if anyone had mentioned the Da Vinci Method. She told me she had never heard of it, though she seemed interested.

So to sum up, LoPorto is a sufferer of ADD himself who has succeeded financially and socially. His book appears to contain very little original work but is a summary of the work done by others. He has several highly self-promotional websites and IMO has extended his enterpreneurial activities to Wayseers, including an "inspirational" video where we can see no expense has been spared to promote The Way.

But is this really the right Way? The more I look at this presumably well-meaning charlatan, the less I like what I see.

[buckminster fuller]

What do you really want to look at ..? form or content ? Income or outcome ? The guy with a message or the message? we should maybe scrutinize the later instead of conjecturing about the individual.. An individual is a complex concept, the result of so many inside and outside parameters that even attempting to judge one seems to me rather an impossible , or unfair act. It's the same concept as narrowing down communism to something "bad". The ideology is not that bad if you consider the ideas on which it is grounded. If you are to consider how historically it has been hijacked by tptb, you might want to review your first assumption that everything that look communist inherits a trait of danger. This is exactly what they want you to believe. Propaganda at its best...

[str8thinker]

@Buckminster Fuller

I've been involved in Web marketing long enough to spot a get-rich-quick merchant when I see one.

I also hate seeing innocent people, particularly kids, get suckered in and let down afterwards, which just perpetuates the cycle they've been trying to kick.

What is this guy offering, other than a book and membership of a group? I haven't seen any concrete plan, such as liaison with some accredited health professional, or a training course, etc. He seems to be remarkably quiet about how he plans to help people.

We all know that self-help (his book) doesn't work on the majority of sufferers with psychological conditions, else most would have recovered by now. A great pity, but that's being realistic. Anyone who's tried any of the methods, from Émile Coué to Norman Vincent Peale, from Dale Carnegie to Anthony Robbins, tends to blame himself/herself for lack of success when what they really needed in the first place was live assistance from a properly trained professional. No book or music video can supply this.

Granted, a few people with a need for inspiration of this kind will be helped to break through their chains and will keep returning to this mantra to remotivate them. But they seem to me to be the type who would have managed to do this anyway, Wayseers or no Wayseers. I'm more concerned about its effect on the greater majority, particularly those whose traumas are piling up to make them unusually susceptible to suggestion and grab at straws as if their lives depended on it. These are the ones most likely to sign up, part with their money and maybe end up even more discouraged and disappointed.

When I hear LoPorto's message, and particularly when I analyse its text, no amount of rhetoric or loud music can disguise its blatant superficiality for me. YMMV.

As you say, all this has little to do with the fact that Constance posted this motivational piece for us with the utmost sincerity and I thank her again for doing it. I agree with you that my comments on this are largely about the messenger rather than the message, so I'm happy to stop here and let the music itself play on.

@John
I see you simply copied the lyrics from the website. If you check them against the live performance you will notice some differences, mostly minor but a few ones I consider significant. Feel free to compare with my version, and if you wish, take what you need from mine (minus the comments). For example, the second line of the chorus makes more sense if written as

‘cuz we’re all affected by The Way

rather than the Web version, which implies

‘cuz we’re all affected, by the way

[westhill]

Morning Everyone...
I watched the YouTube above and did thank Constance but I also went on the web site. I was surprised to find a 10 question "test" to see if you were a wayseer. This is exactly the opposite of what the video was projecting. Creating a criteria (who drew up these parameters?) that defines and labels who you are and how you fall short. Then I saw the book advertised and it all made sense. By the way, according to the test, I am not a wayseer (maybe I need to buy the book). I think I will avoid anything with manifesto attached to its name.
Bye for now... westhill

[ulli]

Str8thinker:
What you state here could just as easily be said about John Lennon's message.
Except that John Lennon was not born in the valley of Neander...;)
he was a gifted musician and poet
and he had a more discerning audience.;)
Sign of the times...;)

[buckminster fuller]

Ok, I guess on a personal level I could find enough to reference to so that it did move me to hear the words. Still does.. Yet, if I'm to project the potential effects of dead ends movements which true goals are those of money, sometimes disinformation, I can only agree that a lot of new-age like movements can greatly mislead people in the long run. Those times are about people waking up, any little help, might it be from dubious characters, that can spark into people minds something of the idea that we are entitled to reclaim our sovereignty I see as a good thing.

Peace

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks Bill Ryan for taking me up on this - I did not see those links when I googled him.

One of my friends is a lady with a long experience teaching ADHD children in "special schools"; she also has a child afflicted by this. I asked her if anyone had mentioned the Da Vinci Method. She told me she had never heard of it, though she seemed interested.

So to sum up, LoPorto is a sufferer of ADD himself who has succeeded financially and socially. His book appears to contain very little original work but is a summary of the work done by others. He has several highly self-promotional websites and IMO has extended his enterpreneurial activities to Wayseers, including an "inspirational" video where we can see no expense has been spared to promote The Way.

Thanks, Str8thinker - I appreciated that you read my post, and did some more digging.

This is a useful debate, btw: I know that you are a skeptic in the honorable (Bernie Haisch) sense of the word, and not a debunker.

One further question - did you read this Huffington Post article? I was once a teacher (for a brief two years, in my 20s) - and I cannot fault this. What he states have always been my thoughts entirely. As far as I can see, this man is sincere.

And it's no crime to write a book to inspire people who've been socialized and conditioned into believing that they're failures or misfits: or to devise a method that may help those for whom school is not best suited, whether or not it's original work or a synthesis.

My provisional verdict: Kudos to him. He operates within the corporate world (again, not a crime) - but is also a maverick. That's all cool.

Read this excellent piece, that sums up his position:

http://huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto/class-of-2010-epic-fail-w_b_607560.html


Class of 2010: Epic FAIL...


http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/garret-loporto/headshot.jpg (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto) Garret LoPorto (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/garret-loporto)

rabble rouser, author, speaker, inventor, entrepreneur, and depth psychologist



No jobs for a misled, mis-educated generation.

According to The Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704250104575238692439240552.html), hundreds of thousands of new college graduates are entering a U.S. work force that has no use for them. While two million college grads remain unemployed, kids with $200k educations get to compete for jobs waiting and busing tables, delivering pizzas, serving as bouncers at night clubs and baristas at Starbucks. Those who've gone the distance to earn Ivy League law degrees may be joining other Ivy League law grads working as census takers, file clerks, and substitute teachers.

If you're a recent college grad, you've likely spent your entire academic life training to be irrelevant in our new economy. Not only that but you're likely to be tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for an "education" whose economic bubble just burst.

Maybe you didn't get the memo, but most of the smartest, richest self-made billionaires were astute enough to ditch class and dropout of this irrelevant education system. Billionaire dropouts include many of the most forward thinking entrepreneurs of our time such as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Richard Branson, Michael Dell, Sheldon Adelson, Larry Ellison, Paul Allen and about 70 other self-made billionaire drop outs.

Trained to Fail

After all the hard work it took you to survive seventeen years of this archaic, industrial era academic system, you're about to discover it was all a giant mistake. You've been trained to fail in the worst possible sense; because you're not even failing at what you naturally love to do - you're failing at what you've been trained to think you should do. And the new global economy doesn't give a rat about the promises you were made. "Get good grades, so you can go to a good college, so you can get a good job," is yesterday's news and it's about as helpful as knowing yesterday's lotto number.

U.S. schooling has probably trained you to follow instructions (instead of blaze your own trail), engage in rote learning (instead of deep, thoughtful exploration), work for grades (instead of your true passions), develop a docile, domesticated disposition, dependent on the "the system" for security and employment (instead of developing your own rugged individualism). You've been taught to avoid experimentation and risk, because straight "A" students are trained to think they need to "get it right" at least 90% of the time, (instead of learning to be comfortable taking big risks with the confidence that if you can just "get it right" 20% of the time in the real world, you'll be among the most successful entrepreneurs, pioneers, innovators and creative risk-takers in the world.

9 out of 10 new businesses and creative ventures fail. Get a 2 out of 10 success rate in the real world and you win. Get 5 out of 10 right in school or as an industrial age factory/knowledge worker and you still fail.) Bottom line is, school's trained you to fail outside of anything but the artificial bubble of "higher education" and the American industrial age economic system, which we have just watched collapse.

Taught to Think Like a Dinosaur

This whole fiasco wasn't malicious, but rather a consequence of a school system designed over a century ago, for what was necessary to drive last century's industrializing economy. The U.S. school system was designed in Germany around the turn of the last century to fuel the industrial revolution. That's where we got much of it from - even the name "kindergarten" (literally "child garden" - a place to grow kids.)

The need then was for good factory workers and managers who did what they were told and followed procedures. So the school system wasn't designed to foster free thinking, a pioneering spirit, innovation, or passion - in fact it was designed to snuff out those traits; it was designed to replace your natural inclinations, curiosities, and creativity with the compulsive desire to earn good grades and subordinate to the system. Instead of learning and working for passion, you were likely trained to learn and work for performance evaluations and your supervisor's approval.

This worked on a national scale when graduates joined a massive workforce mobilized to build and man factories. In that era industrial citizens needed to be docile and easily trained to execute policies and procedures, day in and day out, without question or revolt. When industrialization was still the name of the game this approach ensured U.S. economic supremacy.

Back then two major realities of today didn't exist: computers and telecommunication-driven global outsourcing. With these two factors squarely in place now, there's either a computer or someone in India or China's newly educated two billion person workforce who can perform the same tasks for which our school system trained you - and these new solutions offer corporations orders of magnitude greater efficiency than any U.S. grad. That is, unless you're willing to work for $10k a year.

If you are, then your U.S. education may still serve you well for years to come. If not, then you've been duped. Some of us have been warning about this for many years, but now it's finally happened - with 17% unemployment for our latest generation of college graduates, many of which are now burdened with huge student loan debt that can't even be escaped through bankruptcy - U.S. education is proving to be not only pathetically irrelevant, but a ridiculously expensive mistake - epic FAIL.

American Ingenuity - Our Saving Grace

It turns out the U.S. still has an edge in one area - despite our public education system's apparent determination to rid our brightest students of it - and that edge is American ingenuity. American ingenuity isn't just folklore; it's natural selection. For centuries America has attracted the most adventurous, innovative, pioneering people from every country on the planet. And these pioneering souls passed their pioneering genes on to us. Genes like the DRD4 7R, associated with a novelty-seeking, exploratory, pioneering mindset, have been shown (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8682515?dopt=Abstract) to be over twice as prevalent in the U.S. as it is worldwide.

While the industrialization of America provided our high standard of living, we have paid the price for it with epidemic rates of addiction, depression, and anxiety disorders. This is because we as a population have forced ourselves to conform to a disposition that is literally antagonistic to our genetic temperament. We are natural born explorers, creative risk-takers, and pioneers who have been cooped up in industrial era classrooms for far too long. And this confinement (and subsequent sublimation of our creativity) has taken a toll on our mental health.

We Americans can only sustain our lifestyle if we focus on maintaining our edge as the seat of innovation and progress: not factory workers, not bureaucrats, and certainly not the kleptrocrats whom frustrated creative-risk-takers all-too-often become when they are taught to abandon the passions of their hearts and instead chase external validation. When these naturally creative risk-takers, deformed by our intolerant school system, are put in the role of bureaucrat, kleptocratic looting becomes their only "creative" outlet - and what they create is disaster and chaos - think Enron, Halliburton, Goldman Sachs, and BP to name an infamous few.

So What Do You Do Now?

If we want to recover from our industrial-sized hangover, we need to retool our idea of what education should be. (In fact our current educational system defies the very word education, because - as Russell Bishop (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-bishop) once pointed out to me - educate comes from the Latin meaning "to draw out of," which is the Socratic style of teaching, not "to put into," which is the didactic style of teaching inflicted by our school system.) We need to offer the kind of real education promoted by the likes of Socrates, Plato, Emerson, Thoreau, Alcott, Einstein, Edison, and Henry Ford.

The kind enjoyed by Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, who both lucked into having rather unconventional educational experiences, which fostered inner direction, passion, creativity, out-of-the-box thinking, and freedom to take risks - lots of risks. This type of education is also the most effective for our most energetic and creative students. Right now these kids are being labeled ADHD and medicated to suppress their high energy, and fluid, creative temperaments; biochemically forcing bright creative children to conform to an antiquated idea of learning, which is tied to a sinking ship. These highly creative kids don't have a disorder - our system does.

America needs to wake up. We need to help kids learn to be dynamic entrepreneurs, innovative inventors, and accomplished artists. That is what the new global economy may still be willing to pay American grads big $100k+ incomes for. We need to get back to the roots of American prosperity when the leaders of industry didn't get paid fat salaries and juicy bonuses for manipulating the system and chop-shopping our infrastructure, but instead thought like true entrepreneurs who gain prosperity through courageous, resourceful, creative pioneering.

We need to create and participate in more pursuits emphasizing innovation and difficult problem solving (instead of mere rote learning) like the Imagine Cup (http://www.thegatesnotes.com/Thinking/article.aspx?ID=131&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1), where students compete to innovate technology to help solve some of the world's toughest problems--including eliminating poverty, halting the spread of HIV/AIDS and malaria.

It's "one of the most important science competitions in the world" according to Bill Gates and yet most U.S. high school and college kids aren't even aware of it, because they're too busy trying to keep up artificial grades. (If you're interested, The Huffington Post is hosting a contest (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/calling-student-journalis_n_611192.html) for student journalists to win a trip to this year's event in Poland.)

The ones who prosper in a new world of rapid innovation and constant upheaval are not the compliant, dependent, directionless students we're churning out of our cog-in-the-wheel education system. Those who prosper in a new world are those cut from the same cloth as our great American heroes: the kind who could shoot from the hip, the kind who could think on their toes, the kind who were comfortable with risk and uncharted territory, the kind who could invent unthinkable things like the airplane, the integrated circuit, and the Internet.

If you're graduating with the class of 2010, your best bet is not to wait and hope for industry to save the day, rescuing you from your jobless purgatory. Your best bet is to reconnect with your passion, your God-given brilliance, your American ingenuity, and go ahead and invent the industry that will save the day.

Take this 30 second test (http://www.americanimpulse.com/) to see if you have the naturally creative pioneering temperament shared by 20% of Americans at AmericanImpulse.com (http://www.americanimpulse.com/)

I leave you with a couple quotes:

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." ~ Albert Einstein

"Just as eating contrary to the inclination is injurious to the health, so study without desire sports the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in." ~ Leonardo da Vinci

"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." ~ Albert Einstein

"If art is to nourish the roots of our culture, society must set the artist free to follow his vision wherever it takes him." ~ John F. Kennedy

Garret LoPorto, founder of The Wayseers, (http://www.facebook.com/Wayseers) is an inventor, entrepreneur, speaker and author of The DaVinci Method: Break Out & Express Your Fire (http://www.davincimethod.com/).

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strai8thinker:
What is this guy offering, other than a book and membership of a group? I haven't seen any concrete plan, such as liaison with some accredited health professional, or a training course, etc. He seems to be remarkably quiet about how he plans to help people.

straight, i think you are making a very good point..thanks for the heads up...


luckily, young people are not that guilable these days..their talents may be mismanaged in schools, but they are far from naive..they do tend to ask questions.. i have a personal experience teaching 14-18s for while, before i went elsewhere...

my nephew, a young man, often says " i'd only ever be a member of a gym"...
i am happy for it.. :) l
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[Dale]

I'd like to take a moment to say something concerning this subject.

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."

The above quote could move mountains. For the first time, publicly, I will state that I am no longer on the payroll of any college. I have been immersed in the college/university environment since my high school years, both as a student and an employee. When I speak of this topic, I speak from experience and first-hand observations.

This could fast become a heated post in which I describe the many reasons why institutionalized education is generally not what we believe it to be, but I will work to keep this concise. Looking at my own past, I have found that my formal education and merits have only lead to 10% or less of the financial opportunities and jobs I've held. Roughly 90% came instead from my own experiences, research, connections, and what scholars would refer to as "blind luck." My skills, not awards or degrees, have allowed me to work with the individuals I chose to.

The education system, as far as I'm concerned, prepares students to spend a blissfully lifetime serving those who escaped it, or simply never participated in the first place. As I watch public schooling reach closer to the years of her subjects' infancy, and expand her curriculum into the depths of mindless number-games, detaching her subjects from the world in which they live to a world of specialized operations, I cringe.

As many of you already know, public education was given a large boost just over one hundred years ago by the oil tycoons, booming with capital following the second industrial revolution, as many historians refer to it as. This was not out of the kindness of their hearts. These men had product to manufacture, and assembly lines to fill. Just as an army must train men to skillfully shoot a complexed piece of weaponry, a capitalist must do much the same with an average citizen.

Little has changed since then. Schooling strives to train the masses, starting at young ages, to fill the lines of the system in which they unknowingly participate. From a psychological perspective, the education system is doing an exceptional job at this, which again, makes me cringe. I yearn to see the light of a day in which all souls born to this planet are given the chance to learn freely, pursuing their vast interests, not at the mercy of the mighty dollar or an oppressor's sword.

Do remember, there is a great difference between education and learning. That difference can either make or break the world in which we live.

[Maria Stade]

Hi all !

I have been in contact with Garret for many years and have only good things to say about him.

To my knowledge he a person I can respect and do not keep any hard pushing buy now tactics to sell books.

He might have fancy web site, since when was that a crime ?

He also answers letters and have shown to be a good friend to have !

He can also be found on facebook - Im not there any more !

No I have not read his book, No I have not bought a book from him. ( I dont read books )

But I do honor his mission !

Time to wake up all star seeds.

Maria

[king anthony]

...most of the smartest, richest self-made billionaires were astute enough to ditch class and dropout of this irrelevant education system.

You've been trained to fail in the worst possible sense; because you're not even failing at what you naturally love to do - you're failing at what you've been trained to think you should do. And the new global economy doesn't give a rat about the promises you were made. "Get good grades, so you can go to a good college, so you can get a good job...

...trained you to follow instructions (instead of blaze your own trail), engage in rote learning (instead of deep, thoughtful exploration), work for grades (instead of your true passions), develop a docile, domesticated disposition, dependent on the "the system" for security and employment (instead of developing your own...

The U.S. school system was designed in Germany around the turn of the last century to fuel the industrial revolution. That's where we got much of it from - even the name "kindergarten" (literally "child garden" - a place to grow kids.)

...with epidemic rates of addiction, depression, and anxiety disorders. This is because we as a population have forced ourselves to conform to a disposition that is literally antagonistic to our genetic...

We need to create and participate in more pursuits emphasizing innovation and difficult problem solving... to help solve some of the world's toughest problems--including eliminating poverty, halting the spread of HIV/AIDS and malaria.

The ones who prosper in a new world of rapid innovation and constant upheaval are not the compliant, dependent, directionless students we're churning out of our cog-in-the-wheel education system.

Very well presented (as always) - if I may add.

Those who are successful, based on the standard of measurement in this civilization, did not achieve this totally by their own hand; these people may have had both potential and ability; however, the 'few' (ruling class) aided for the benefit of the 'few'.

The education system is about teaching conformity and the regurgitation of what the 'few' want the many to know; again, to serve the purpose of the 'few' and not that of each. So much is lost as potential and ability is quashed in the 'cookie cutter' system of social conformity and productivity.

In order to have achieved the 'child garden', the 'few', using the state, needed to have control over young minds; thus, the movement to have both men and women slave their entire lives came to be - with the new parent being the state, being the education system, being the 'few'.

The young minds that don't conform (or cannot) are label 'deviants' and this label is imposed throughout one's life. Peer pressure followed by more 'negative' labels are imposed as part of the system of 'self-regulation' by the masses; the natural human trait of communal living being exploited.

Those who still could not and cannot be conditioned are then given labels of mental defectiveness; which is artificial. Those who truly end up suffering some sort of mental anguish cannot understand how or why it is, as the enemy is 'invisible'.

The idea of problem solving human-made conditions feeds the 'beast' ('the establishment') as it perpetuates how things are. Poverty, HIV/AIDS and cancers... are created by human beings; and human beings don't have to parish by these things; this not based on research alone.

Changes need to be made, such as the monetary system, before anything else can be accomplished; civilizations have succeeded without such 'tools' in history. Once civilization (re)builds a new foundation, the 'new' way of learning can be implemented - and this 'new' way of learning will naturally lead humanity to a new way of living.

Those with 'unlimited resources' (much wealth) do some things not for profit, fame or glory (examples, sail an ocean or climb a mountain); but do so for their own personal growth.

Imagine, all human beings having this opportunity and to share these achievements with everyone else; not for profit, fame or glory - imagine how different the world would be.

I say, to simply be motivated by thoughts, sounds or words is to 'feel good' for a moment; however, when the 'feel good' is no longer and the 'knowing and understanding' remains, then change will surely be.

[Bill Ryan]

I'd like to take a moment to say something concerning this subject.

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."

The above quote could move mountains. For the first time, publicly, I will state that I am no longer on the payroll of any college. I have been immersed in the college/university environment since my high school years, both as a student and an employee. When I speak of this topic, I speak from experience and first-hand observations.

This could fast become a heated post in which I describe the many reasons why institutionalized education is generally not what we believe it to be, but I will work to keep this concise. Looking at my own past, I have found that my formal education and merits have only lead to 10% or less of the financial opportunities and jobs I've held. Roughly 90% came instead from my own experiences, research, connections, and what scholars would refer to as "blind luck." My skills, not awards or degrees, have allowed me to work with the individuals I chose to.

The education system, as far as I'm concerned, prepares students to spend a blissfully lifetime serving those who escaped it, or simply never participated in the first place. As I watch public schooling reach closer to the years of her subjects' infancy, and expand her curriculum into the depths of mindless number-games, detaching her subjects from the world in which they live to a world of specialized operations, I cringe.

As many of you already know, public education was given a large boost just over one hundred years ago by the oil tycoons, booming with capital following the second industrial revolution, as many historians refer to it as. This was not out of the kindness of their hearts. These men had product to manufacture, and assembly lines to fill. Just as an army must train men to skillfully shoot a complexed piece of weaponry, a capitalist must do much the same with an average citizen.

Little has changed since then. Schooling strives to train the masses, starting at young ages, to fill the lines of the system in which they unknowingly participate. From a psychological perspective, the education system is doing an exceptional job at this, which again, makes me cringe. I yearn to see the light of a day in which all souls born to this planet are given the chance to learn freely, pursuing their vast interests, not at the mercy of the mighty dollar or an oppressor's sword.

Do remember, there is a great difference between education and learning. That difference can either make or break the world in which we live.

What a great post.

I used to be a teacher (my first 'proper job'), but quickly quit when I realized that I was part of a conditioning and socialization process that was all about obedience and conformity and nothing to do with radical, innovative thinking.

I'm no longer a schoolteacher. But I've been an educator all my life.

In Garret LoPorto I see someone who fully understands this, and is offering support to all the people whom school failed... (not who failed at school!). This may be his mission here this lifetime, and may he succeed in everything he does.

It's not about joining anything. It's about realizing you're perfect the way you are, that there's support and kinship out there, and that you're not alone.

[Constance]

It's not about joining anything. It's about realizing you're perfect the way you are, that there's support and kinship out there, and that you're not alone.

Thanks Bill. When I got sent that video from a dear, dear friend, he sent it to me to uplift, nourish and support me in true kinship. He knew that I was experiencing adversity and he knew that I would see that video in the true spirit that it was intended.
Bill what you just said brought me into the profound realisation that not only are we perfect as we are but that there is also perfection throughout the universe. When I look at mother nature and how perfect she is in all her glory, I see that this is a perfect example (pardon the pun :) ) of how this is reflected in us too.
If we go beyond duality, if we transcend duality, what is left is that sense of "oneness" with all.
Just writing that felt so liberating...and now... I am going to get out into the glorious day and share in some kinship :)

I can hear Kookaburras outside my window as the dawn breaks. They are laughing hysterically...

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dale:
Do remember, there is a great difference between education and learning. That difference can either make or break the world in which we live.

but hasn't it always been the same with almost every education system? i rememebr getting traumatised when/if i wasn't able tp concentrate well enough on my homework..kids these days see far better through the system ..they don't need it as much...

the otrher day i had a convesration, yes a CONVERSATION with a THREE year old in a supermarked while his parents were queuing up at a cash point..,,little daniel was telling me about saturn satelites and other things about our solar system.. he also informed me he was from jupiter -.his little face lit up when i said i thought i was from jupiter too...cross my heart, this happened.. i asked the parents how long has this been going on for (this interest in planets) and the mother said since he was 18 months old...he can't read yet, but he nags his parents to do it for him....they said it was always about planets and the sun..

the most important things you learn at home, at your own initiative - far from schools. universities etc that may offer training, but not knowledge.....

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_bvT-DGcWw

[Telepathic Intuitive]

I'd like to take a moment to say something concerning this subject.

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."

The above quote could move mountains. For the first time, publicly, I will state that I am no longer on the payroll of any college. I have been immersed in the college/university environment since my high school years, both as a student and an employee. When I speak of this topic, I speak from experience and first-hand observations.

This could fast become a heated post in which I describe the many reasons why institutionalized education is generally not what we believe it to be, but I will work to keep this concise. Looking at my own past, I have found that my formal education and merits have only lead to 10% or less of the financial opportunities and jobs I've held. Roughly 90% came instead from my own experiences, research, connections, and what scholars would refer to as "blind luck." My skills, not awards or degrees, have allowed me to work with the individuals I chose to.

The education system, as far as I'm concerned, prepares students to spend a blissfully lifetime serving those who escaped it, or simply never participated in the first place. As I watch public schooling reach closer to the years of her subjects' infancy, and expand her curriculum into the depths of mindless number-games, detaching her subjects from the world in which they live to a world of specialized operations, I cringe.

As many of you already know, public education was given a large boost just over one hundred years ago by the oil tycoons, booming with capital following the second industrial revolution, as many historians refer to it as. This was not out of the kindness of their hearts. These men had product to manufacture, and assembly lines to fill. Just as an army must train men to skillfully shoot a complexed piece of weaponry, a capitalist must do much the same with an average citizen.

Little has changed since then. Schooling strives to train the masses, starting at young ages, to fill the lines of the system in which they unknowingly participate. From a psychological perspective, the education system is doing an exceptional job at this, which again, makes me cringe. I yearn to see the light of a day in which all souls born to this planet are given the chance to learn freely, pursuing their vast interests, not at the mercy of the mighty dollar or an oppressor's sword.

Do remember, there is a great difference between education and learning. That difference can either make or break the world in which we live.

I would like to thank you verbally for posting this as it says so much.

I would also like to post a link to a book called 'The Underground History of American Education', by John Taylor Gatto.
I find it compliments Dale's post very well.

http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm

Thanks again Dale.

[king anthony]

Still keeping with the topic of the education system; Here is a link to another thread Norman Dodd (1899 - 1987) On Tax Exempt Foundations (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15042-Norman-Dodd-(1899-1987)-On-Tax-Exempt-Foundations)

What if I told you, on or about 1907 non-profit foundations owned by the Rockefellers, Morgans and so forth, bought the education system? What if I told you on or about 1927 the news media was bought by the same organizations (another topic of discussion). This would mean information and facts you think you know have been controlled, and everything being told to people is what "they" want people to know or believe.

The above said man was a banker, financial advisor and served as chief investigator for the U.S. Congressman B.C. Reece's special committee on Tax Exempt Foundations (referred to as the Reece Committee). During his investigation with the aid of Kathryn Casey, they uncovered so much more then what their objective was; below is part of the transcript of the below...

'... that portion of education which could be considered domestic should be handled by the Rockefeller Foundation...'

{more in the thread}

[Charlie Pecos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA

Incredibly powerful Constance, thank you for posting.

Confirmation of who we are and what we have been through is no accident but indeed by intelligent design.

Absolutely priceless.

[Anchor]

What is this guy offering, other than a book and membership of a group? I haven't seen any concrete plan, such as liaison with some accredited health professional, or a training course, etc. He seems to be remarkably quiet about how he plans to help people.

Well with this video, a number of things - and beyond it he has to do no more in order to have achieved some measure of success

1) Yet another, well made, wake-up call
2) A well made and inspiring and thoughtful speech
3) Another opportunity for those that need to do it, to focus on the mission

Its little things like this that can help speak to those who need speaking too. Some people are going to get more out of this video than others, due to the nature of their mission on Earth.

Each step of the way we are adding a new dot to a pointillist canvas. You can't see what it is close up - step back and its a masterpiece.

John..

[heretogrow]

Chills and Tears! Especially when he said, "Welcome Home!"

Thank you so much for this wonderful post, Constance!

Much Love to all of you wayseers! We have found our tribe!
Julia:)

[str8thinker]

In response to Bill Ryan (post #50):

Hi Bill. Yes, I did read the article, also wondered in the back of my mind how much of it he plagiarized. But what the heck, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say all these words came from his own mouth.

I admit I wasn't going to say any more in this thread. But it has opened up such a can of worms that I would like to add some more comments, if you guys don't mind.

For those out there who can read it, i.e., who are not dyslexic, his advice is quite sound. Our Australian education system is on a par with that of the U.S. But let's begin at the low end of the spectrum.

The lady teacher whom I asked in my post #44 is actually a close neighbour so we have known her and her family for some years. She has two sons and a daughter. The elder son, originally diagnosed with ADHD, is now classified as having Asperger's syndrome (similar to ADHD) and is also dyslexic. The younger son has a poorly defined but mild dysphasia (difficulty talking articulately along with some attention deficit disorder, as well as the personality problems and inability to find employment secondary to these disabilities.) The daughter is normal, in fact is doing very well in her university course studying psychology and social work - strong motivation there.

I became interested in Asperger's syndrome when I was invited to help the elder son to learn to use and fix his computers. He is a genius at taking things apart and fixing them, though needed a great deal of help with technical books when he made it as far as technical school, learning air conditioning. He passed the course and now in his middle twenties has started his own business, is getting plenty of work, is popular, has a steady girlfriend and is enjoying life. The support he has had from his family has been paramount here. I'm glad to have been able to help him in a few small ways in my own field of interest.

When I first met him he instantly reminded me of my stepbrother many years ago, who was also dyslexic. He was also a popular lad but had difficulty keeping jobs due to his inability to fill customers' orders because he couldn't read lists of parts. He had to be told what was required and then memorize this. But he was very popular with both sexes, a gang leader (in the non-criminal sense) and would have made an ideal platoon commander (his hero was Vic Morrow). Asperger's was unknown in those days.

These experiences have taught me how wide a gulf exists between the natural abilities that such young people have, plus the basic skills they acquire (usually they are very street-smart), and the skills they need (basic business management, literacy and numeracy) to succeed like the entrepreneurs LoPorto would like them to be. Contrary to his lyrics, further remedial education may be exactly what they need.

The distinctions between ADHD, Asperger's, Tourette syndrome and dyslexia are by no means as clear-cut in real life as many imagine. Many people are diagnosed with ADHD or Asperger's when in fact they have dyslexia, or even a combination of both. It is significant that LoPorto concentrates on ADHD without considering dyslexia, or Asperger's for that matter (viz. the Epic: FAIL article). Nothing there about trying out glasses with differently tinted lenses to help dyslexics.

I have no idea what role the so-called Neanderthal gene plays in Asperger's or dyslexia; there are many reasons to account for why these conditions are often spoken of as "comorbid" (concurrent).

LoPorto's message and sales pitch seems to be directed at a relatively narrow segment of the ADHD spectrum; those who already have most of the basic skills required to succeed in life, but need extra motivation. By extrapolation, the same motivational techniques can be used to good effect on 'normal' people who don't have ADHD. Similarly with Scientology; one of the things about its methods that many don't realize is that its basic techniques miraculously work on people at all levels of ability, which of course explains its initial popularity.

LoPorto seems selectively interested in those most like himself, the cream of the ADHD crop whose presumed innate star talents, if focused properly, would surpass those of average, normal mortals. My concern is that this approach falsely raises the hopes of others not as well endowed, though they may have plenty of street smarts. I also find this difficult to reconcile with his notion of a communal "tribe" that awaits them at the end of his song; star talents are usually anything but tribal. We can't all be entrepreneurs or geniuses, though I agree with him (and Hubbard) that improving even a disabled person's abilities to their maximum potential may well place that person ahead of the norm.

This raises another interesting issue. Is there a risk that an unsupervised ADHD sufferer who takes LoPorto's advice and pushes his remaining talents to the maximum at the expense of fitting in socially with the rest of the world likely to become a sociopath under an affable veneer? Entrepreneurs don't usually become millionaires by being nice to everyone they meet. When LoPorto's song calls on us to become disruptive, things can turn very nasty indeed.

Remember that his song, coming from one who understands ADHD intimately, is cleverly designed to speak one message to those of us who are largely normal but need just that bit of extra motivation, and another message entirely to those who, because of ADHD or similar conditions, feel alienated, desperately need to belong to a tribe, and may be willing to go to much more extreme lengths to achieve the reward and satisfaction of dopamine release.

http://www.dyslexia-testing.com.au/wordpress/2006/12/adhd-add-and-dyslexia/
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=308933
http://www.healthyplace.com/adhd/parent-advocate/adhd-and-dyslexia/menu-id-916/
http://www.suite101.com/content/adhd-and-dyslexia-a164646
http://www.education.com/magazine/article/Ed_Not_ADHD_Dyslexia/

[Icecold]

The distinctions between ADHD, Asperger's, Tourette syndrome and dyslexia are by no means as clear-cut in real life as many imagine. Many people are diagnosed with ADHD or Asperger's when in fact they have dyslexia, or even a combination of both. It is significant that LoPorto concentrates on ADHD without considering dyslexia, or Asperger's for that matter (viz. the Epic: FAIL article). Nothing there about trying out glasses with differently tinted lenses to help dyslexics.

I have no idea what role the so-called Neanderthal gene plays in Asperger's or dyslexia; there are many reasons to account for why these conditions are often "comorbid" (concurrent).

There is no conclusive evidence as to why there has been a marked increase in the frequency or appearance of Asperger's or ADHD.

As an educator, I specialised in Special Ed at university. Specifically Asperger's Syndrome. The work I do now in BWE and NLP has led me to believe that there is an explanation for the increase in both Asperger's and ADHD, and it is not related to genes, or chemicals.

I have introduced a drug free treatment that I believe will address the problems associated with both states of mind. I believe both hyper states are a product of enviromental artifacts which appeared on mass at roughly the same time as the two mind states began to increase in frequency.

I have a website dedicated to this view and I produce products which directly address the issue.

Tony Atwood's work is world class and at present I am compiling a business plan which I will present to him. He is located in my locality.

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

[karelia]

There is no conclusive evidence as to why there has been a marked increase in the frequency or appearance of Asperger's or ADHD.


Huh? Any symptom of Apserger's, ADHD, ADD, or any other "autism spectrum disorder," as it's so elegantly called in mainstream, can be traced to mercury poisoning. Google the effects of mercury poisoning and you're presented with the entire diagnoses. And where does mercury come from? Vaccines. Just yet one more way to kill us while increasing suffering to the maximum effect. Autism didn't exist a hundred years ago, nor did any of its spectrum disorders. It was after vaccines were widely used that those problems appeared.

[Constance]

The distinctions between ADHD, Asperger's, Tourette syndrome and dyslexia are by no means as clear-cut in real life as many imagine. Many people are diagnosed with ADHD or Asperger's when in fact they have dyslexia, or even a combination of both. It is significant that LoPorto concentrates on ADHD without considering dyslexia, or Asperger's for that matter (viz. the Epic: FAIL article). Nothing there about trying out glasses with differently tinted lenses to help dyslexics.

I have no idea what role the so-called Neanderthal gene plays in Asperger's or dyslexia; there are many reasons to account for why these conditions are often "comorbid" (concurrent).

There is no conclusive evidence as to why there has been a marked increase in the frequency or appearance of Asperger's or ADHD.

As an educator, I specialised in Special Ed at university. Specifically Asperger's Syndrome. The work I do now in BWE and NLP has led me to beileve that there is an explanation for the increase
in both Asperger's and ADHD, and it is not related to genes, or chemicals.

I have introduced a drug free treatment that I believe will address the problems associated with both states of mind. I believe both hyper states are a product of enviromental artifacts
which appeared on mass at roughly the same time as the two mind states began to increase in frequency.

I have a website dedicated to this view and I produce products which directly address the issue.

Tony Atwood's work is world class and at present I am compiling a business plan which I will present to him. He is located in my locality.

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

I'm completely fascinated by what you have just shared Icecold.

Is the environment that you write of, inutero?

[str8thinker]

(Icecold) I have introduced a drug free treatment that I believe will address the problems associated with both states of mind. I believe both hyper states are a product of environmental artifacts which appeared en masse at roughly the same time as the two mind states began to increase in frequency.


(karelia) Any symptom of Asperger's, ADHD, ADD, or any other "autism spectrum disorder," as it's so elegantly called in mainstream, can be traced to mercury poisoning.

Thank you both for these most interesting observations! I will certainly pass them on to my teacher friend and also inform her about Tony Attwood.

[Icecold]

Hi Constance,


I'm completely fascinated by what you have just shared Icecold.

Is the environment that you write of, inutero?

Not specifically, it is in our wider enviroment, but the inutero will not escape it and it is likely that it begins there. The effects are pervasive and persistant, and could likely occur after birth. Though it is likely that the problem arises during brain formation. Incidentally, brain formation does not stop until the age of 17 (approx.).

[goldmother]

Absolutely outstanding totally brilliant :drum:

[Kimberley]

Incidentally, brain formation does not stop until the age of 17 (approx.).

I have interviewed many neuroscience and brain development specialist and would like to correct you on this ... the human brain is not fully developed until 21 (approx).

I am enjoying this thread!!! Much love to us all! :love:
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Brain Weight

*By age 2, the child's brain is about 80% of its adult size at approximately 1,120 grams in males. The brain reaches its maximum weight between age 19 and 21 and then begins to gradually lose small amounts of weight after age 50.

Neural Connections

*By the time a child is 3, the brain has formed nearly 1,000 trillion neural connections, which is about twice as many as the adult brain has. Around the age of 11, the brain will begin to gradually rid itself of unnecessary and inefficient connections.

Brain Development

*Although the brain reaches its full adult weight by the age of 21, it continues to develop for several years. In fact, a study done by the National Institutes of Health found that the region of brain that inhibits risky behavior does not fully form until age 25. This is the final stage of brain development.
***********************************

Just one of many links about this
http://www.ehow.com/facts_6371486_age-human-brain-fully-developed_.html

[Icecold]

Kimberley.

Thank you for your correction. Though in my view, it is irrelevant in respect to the causation of autism spectrum disorders

I based my statement on the fact that abstract thought begins at approximately 17 yrs of age. This is the last faculty to form in regard to learning.

Brain physiology is in my view, not a factor in regard to autism spectrum disorders.

The neural connective growth is important in regard to autism spectrum disorders.,,,in my view.


I have interviewed many neuroscience and brain development specialist
Then you know that there is no appreciable difference in brain physiology in regard to autism spectrum disorders. Also you know that neuroscience does not have a viable non-drug treatment for autism spectrum disorders.

I also believe that in a very short period of time there will be an epidemic of brain cancers which
are causatively related to autism spectrum disorders.

Thank you.

Icecold

[Bill Ryan]

I based my statement on the fact that abstract thought begins at approximately 17 yrs of age.

So all that trigonometry and calculus I did in my early teens must have been a waste of time! :)

No way is that statement accurate, or helpful... way too much of a generalization. The bell curve is really wide.

Greg Smith (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A16604-2002Jan8) convinced his parents to become vegetarians (based on the shape of human teeth) at the age of two.

In the interview I did with Avalon's own Inelia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?1986-Inelia) (not yet published), she describes how she cried for days - at the age of three - when she realized that she'd incarnated in a timeline where there was still war.

Here's 11-year old Birke Baehr (http://planetgreen.discovery.com/food-health/11-year-old-organic-food-activist-explains-whats-wrong-with-our-nations-food-system.html), (http://planetgreen.discovery.com/food-health/11-year-old-organic-food-activist-explains-whats-wrong-with-our-nations-food-system.html) on TED, with his presentation on GMO foods:

Someone tell him that he's got to wait 6 more years till he's capable of abstract thought. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Id9caYw-Y

[Ahkenaten]

Bill I agree that the current models of child development are wrong (Piaget, etc.) According to those models humans are not capable of abstract thinking until well after the age of 5! And yet I have observed very young children able to make intellectual leaps and immediately grasp abstract concepts including the quark, a googooplex, death, and - yes, rebirth. These models are designed to trap the human spirit, which is infinite and forever vibrant and alive on all levels, intellectual, spiritual - and in some sense that we grasp intuitively and do not comprehend intellectually - PHYSICALLY (the physical as being manifested out of pure energy) as well. This video is compelling and strong and grabs people at the instinctive, emotional levels to plant positive seeds for human change that is needed. Thanks Constance for posting this inspirational video that makes a substantial contribution to positive change and human transformation needed at this time!

[GK76]

Thanks for the Video, it is a positive look which is always nice these days. I guess I'm forever cynical, I can't help feeling this is too good, do we need a movement defined to suit this group of people? (after looking at his website).

The thing I can never seem to ignore with movements like these is the fact that the "Wayseers" have broken out of the restrictive box they found themselves in, only to be repackaged under a new label... and in time their outlook could be managed and redefined again. Will this cycle ever change and could this be another social engineering experiment?

[bodixa]

I'm catching up - if someone already posted this, please delete! Must watch for anyone interested in education paradigms and what's wrong with ours...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U&feature=player_embedded

[Constance]

Now here is a tricky question...

"What" if a childs potential neurological development began BEFORE conception? :)


Actually, come to think of it...

The question could also be....

"Where" does neurological development really start if we are more than just our brains? :)

[Ahkenaten]

A very respected Physician once told me that the body is in the spirit, not the reverse. Others have expressed this thought as our lives are spirit having a physical experience in the body. However expressed this puts a whole different slant on the entire western concept of physical and neurological development, the body and its systems being tools or "extensors" whereby spirit participates actively in shaping our collective reality. If spirit is "conscious" - if Spirit is Consciousness itself - that renders most discussions laying out our development in linear, sequential terms, irrelevant. The subject of interest is, IMO - Consciousness. And many traditions around the world have held that Consciousness lives forever - transcending birth and death.

[ThePythonicCow]

A very respected Physician once told me that the body is in the spirit, not the reverse.
I would suggest (an unusual view) that it is not that either body or spirit is in the other, but that it is layers of self-perpetuating, self-organizing order. Each layer (atomic, molecular, cellular, physical body, mental body, cultures, spiritual, or whatever) forms from the elements composed by lower layers.

When already formed higher orders of sapience or spirituality drift into our local physical world from afar, it might seem to our mundane physical world as if that spirit formed that physical. Rather I would suggest that that spirit re-orders the physical to a higher purpose.

[Ahkenaten]

Paul (oops, sorry!) you expressed the thought better than I ever could! Thanks for that.

[Anchor]

I based my statement on the fact that abstract thought begins at approximately 17 yrs of age. This is the last faculty to form in regard to learning.

Could you please define abstract thought in the context you are using here?

I never felt my thinking methods changed much around 17 - I am sure I was thinking abstractly before then in fact I was a good problem solver as a young kid.

So I am thinking that maybe there is a difference in how you are using the words here?

John..

[ThePythonicCow]

I based my statement on the fact that abstract thought begins at approximately 17 yrs of age. This is the last faculty to form in regard to learning.

Could you please define abstract thought in the context you are using here?
Well, I can't speak for Icecold here (or anywhere else for that matter ;)), but I can provide an example from my past.

I was quite a sharp student in mathematics when young. My high school math teacher would get me extra books on mathematical logic, axiomatic set theory, second order predicate calculus and such. These were subjects that are best understood entirely in the abstract, their connections to the mundane physical world being rather incidental.

It was not until I was 18 or 20 that I began to become comfortable with these topics though, despite many many hours pondering them in earlier years.

They are not "hard" topics; much easier on the brain than second order partial differential equations, tensor analysis or quantum mechanics (none of which I ever mastered.) But they just don't connect with younger brains (except perhaps for the few ultra geniuses who worked at another level.)

[Icecold]

I based my statement on the fact that abstract thought begins at approximately 17 yrs of age. This is the last faculty to form in regard to learning.

Could you please define abstract thought in the context you are using here?
Well, I can't speak for Icecold here (or anywhere else for that matter ;)), but I can provide an example from my past.

I was quite a sharp student in mathematics when young. My high school math teacher would get me extra books on mathematical logic, axiomatic set theory, second order predicate calculus and such. These were subjects that are best understood entirely in the abstract, their connections to the mundane physical world being rather incidental.

It was not until I was 18 or 20 that I began to become comfortable with these topics though, despite many many hours pondering them in earlier years.

They are not "hard" topics; much easier on the brain than second order partial differential equations, tensor analysis or quantum mechanics (none of which I ever mastered.) But they just don't connect with younger brains (except perhaps for the few ultra geniuses who worked at another level.)

Thank you Paul,

Most professional educators are aware of the fact that at around the age of 17....because they see it....a student will begin to grasp abstract concepts which they were incapable of grasping at an earlier age. It is well know that this occurs. This is an AVERAGE marker. A statistical marker. Not all students will develop abstract thinking at this stage, some later and some earlier. However it remains the average age.

Piaget sets abstract thinking at an earlier age, but this is not in evidence and is disputed by educators. However, this chart does give you an idea of developmental stages in learning. Autism spectrum disorder is clearly identified during learning. Fully developed abstract thinking, the final stage in learning, is around 17 years of age.
http://www.childdevelopmentinfo.com/development/piaget.shtml

Yes Bill the bell curve is wide. If you pick out special cases as you have, they will likely fall outside the parameters. Using outliers in no way disturbs the average...even if it is a generalisation....it has to be a generalisation, because of unique individual learning capacity.

[morgs59]

Like most here initially I thought this video was very inspiring but watched it again carefully as a faint bell had rung in me. I then took in on the second watch Richard Branson in the mix,the very good friend of royalty,and big businessman. Well he seems very nice on the surface but he doesn't inspire me.
I visited the website and sorry to swim against the mainstream opinion here but I read that 'a centralised think tank' had been set up for Wayseers. This type of speak is Common Purpose blurb (see Brian Gerrish state of the nation) and think tanks belong to Govts. Reading on about the chap he has worked for microsoft and been the CEO of a very large company etc. As Bill says nothing wrong with that but he is in a minority..there sure arn't many CEO's putting this message out.
I think the video is very good & slick as str8thinker says but I am watchful and rely on my intuition which tells me caution needed here.

[Humble Janitor]

I don't care if the man is trying to sell a book.

I feel justified for all of those years where I broke rules and basically told society to "stuff it" in favor of doing things my own way.

It's how I got where I am. Taking bold risks and doing things that I never thought I'd be able to do. I'm proud to be a misfit!

[Humble Janitor]

The distinctions between ADHD, Asperger's, Tourette syndrome and dyslexia are by no means as clear-cut in real life as many imagine. Many people are diagnosed with ADHD or Asperger's when in fact they have dyslexia, or even a combination of both. It is significant that LoPorto concentrates on ADHD without considering dyslexia, or Asperger's for that matter (viz. the Epic: FAIL article). Nothing there about trying out glasses with differently tinted lenses to help dyslexics.

I have no idea what role the so-called Neanderthal gene plays in Asperger's or dyslexia; there are many reasons to account for why these conditions are often "comorbid" (concurrent).

There is no conclusive evidence as to why there has been a marked increase in the frequency or appearance of Asperger's or ADHD.

As an educator, I specialised in Special Ed at university. Specifically Asperger's Syndrome. The work I do now in BWE and NLP has led me to believe that there is an explanation for the increase in both Asperger's and ADHD, and it is not related to genes, or chemicals.

I have introduced a drug free treatment that I believe will address the problems associated with both states of mind. I believe both hyper states are a product of enviromental artifacts which appeared on mass at roughly the same time as the two mind states began to increase in frequency.

I have a website dedicated to this view and I produce products which directly address the issue.

Tony Atwood's work is world class and at present I am compiling a business plan which I will present to him. He is located in my locality.

http://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

I think that Aspergers should be looked at as a case of human evolution that isn't fully realized.

I know that some with Aspergers are incapable of being "normal" droids in society. I know that I am, despite the fact that I often try to skirt the rules whenever possible.

There is nothing wrong with thinking outside of the box. Society tends to repress those who do because the majority of humans are scared to take bold risks.

[FearNot]

.............

[str8thinker]

Well I thought I'd test his sincerity by posing as an unfinancial member of the community and asking for a free copy of his book The Wayseers.

After a few days, I received an email with a download link. The email asked me not to hand it around as the PDF file was linked to my email address. Fair enough, I guess. In the opening pages it says


This is an abbreviated version of “The Wayseers” e-book, because some elements had to be removed in order to meet the 1 MB file size limit of our automated Financial Assistance Program.

Big deal. I'm sure the 1 Mb size has little to do with their program. The book didn't mention what had been omitted, but on reading through it it didn't seem to make any real difference, you'll be glad to hear.

When Anthony Robbins decided to make a career out of teaching people to be a success in life, one of the first things he did was to sit down and read just about every self-help and personal success book available at the time. And (this was before the Internet) the shelves were and still are jammed with them. So in order to stand out from the rest, a successful book needs a gimmick. And The Wayseers has at least three. First, there's its catchy title. Second, its catchy manifesto (carefully printed in full within). Third, its implied status by association with medical research in genetics and neuroscience.

After wading through seven pages of reader testimonials, I was ready to get to the real action, but found I could not copy text out of it. No matter - a quick trip to http://www.pdfunlock.com/ fixed that.


Wayseers usually share a common gene – a genetic polymorphism called the DRD4 exon III 7-repeat allele (DRD4 7R for short). This Wayseer gene causes the brain’s reward pathways to override the prefrontal cortex brain’s neurologically (sic) repression mechanism, which typically censors unconscious thoughts and impulses. This difference encourages risk-taking, novelty seeking, increased alpha/theta brainwave patterns, susceptibility to addictive behavior, ADD/ADHD and bipolar, propensity for genius level problem solving and creativity, and gives one access to that miraculous quality that makes great heroes, charismatic political leaders, rock stars, entrepreneurs, movie-moguls, rebel billionaires, inspired artists, mystics and pioneers.

So we even have a Wayseer gene now. Seems to be a case of the tail wagging the dog. No advice about how to go about determining whether you have this gene or not. And what if you don't? Does that condemn you to a life of mediocrity? Nope, but it might just take a little longer.


Wayseers however are not limited only to those who have this DRD4 7R gene; because other gene combinations, decades of fervent prayer or meditation, psychotropic drugs or even medications like L-dopa (used to treat Parkinson’s disease) can cause one’s brain to reconstitute into a form that allows for Wayseer consciousness.

In an earlier post in this thread I mentioned the dangers of unsupervised medication with L-dopa, so won't bore you with them again. Just don't try it, or other psychotropic drugs for that matter. But if you become or already are addicted to some substance, the book explains later on how a Wayseer can get himself/herself out of it! L. Ron Hubbard, eat your heart out.

LoPorto then invites you to test yourself using a fairly simple questionnaire to determine whether you really are Wayseer material.


As you read this book you may be surprised by how many statements simply ring true for you. When this happens, don’t second guess yourself. Trust that sense of rightness. That is your perception of the Way.

In this Way, nobody misses out. Just trust yourself. Hmm, That sounds like Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 – 1882).


Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string.

It seems you need to trust your impulses a lot if you wish to become a Wayseer. It also helps to make your impetuous inclinations work for you, rather than against you, which is good advice to anyone willing to try for a change.


Studies using fMRI brain scans reveal that when people are in love the power balances in their brain shift. The brain becomes “manic,” “driven,” and “addictive”. A typical Normal Type brain once ruled by the prefrontal cortex, when “madly in love” experiences a neurological coup d'état of sorts from the right VTA [whatever that is] (which floods the brain dopamine overriding executive authority in the prefrontal cortex), medial caudate nucleus and nucleus accumbens, which are each reward centers of the brain causing “in love” people to become more impulsive, passionate, unstable and uncharacteristically “free”.

Curiously, when you compare typical fMRI brain scans of people in love with those of people who have been diagnosed with the myriad of disorders almost exclusively attributed to Wayseers such as ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder or Addictive Personality you discover they are essentially identical. The fMRIs reveal that natural born Wayseers appear to have brains relatively hardwired to the brain state of being in love. This may indicate that naturally more impulsive, passionate, unstable and free Wayseers may also be more attuned to and influenced by the impulses of love (or the Way).

So I guess we're all Wayseers of one kind or another, underneath our addictions and whatever other personality disorders might be present.

Nothing sells like a secret ingredient.


The Vitality of Love (The Secret Ingredient)
If you want to introduce anything of value in the world you must infuse it with the very essence of life – great love and vitality. The old adage “Do what you love and the money will follow.” is almost right. The true statement – albeit less sensational – is closer to “Love what you do and the money will follow.”

Just be careful not to overdo it. As the song goes,

I didn't know if it was day or night
I started kissin' everything in sight
But when I kissed a cop down on Thirty-Fourth and Vine
He broke my little bottle of Love Potion Number Nine.

http://mp3skull.com/mp3/love_potion_no_9_clovers.html

Chapter after chapter proved to be filled with useful little homilies like this. This kind of self-improvement by example was obviously being pitched at such a high level that it makes unrealistic demands on the reader. "Know What Your Communication Channels Can Handle." If I knew that, I wouldn't be reading this book in the first place. First, you had to understand what he's getting at - okay for most of us literates, but not okay for others with poor reading skills or dyslexia, as I mentioned in an earlier post. So where is the real method in all this? What techniques can the trainee Wayseer learn to apply?


Some of you may wonder, “Where’s the method here?” What is the exact formula for living as a happy, healthy, successful Wayseer? The answer is, the absence of method is the best method. It is the relinquishment of all methods that leads a Wayseer into their brilliance. Wayseer Therapy is the urgent imperative, “Know thyself.” For only self-knowledge can liberate a Wayseer to discover their brilliance and their greatness. Any rules or methods – like we’ve mentioned earlier – will likely get in the way.

Every day, let yourself become a little more free. Every day follow your deepest impulses a bit more heartily. Every day spend more time following your heart and less time bowing to the rules in your head. Every day become more relentlessly honest with yourself and others. Every day do something so spontaneous that it makes you feel truly alive. Your spontaneous impulses, your connection to Guidance, your unfettered trust in your own impeccable instincts; that shall be the “method” to your madness.

If you read XZLTD1's Amazon Customer Review of LoPorto's earlier book The Da Vinci Method,, he (she? it?) says

"The absence of method is the method", finally on page 246 Loporto reveals the truth. He wrote a book to make you feel good. It says absolutley [sic] nothing - but that is his method.

So nothing has really changed, except Da Vinci Method is now Wayseers. To add insult to injury, all the links in The Wayseers that promise extra material lead back to the Da Vinci Method website - and at least a couple of them are 404 (dead).

To be fair to him, he does include some tips to help you achieve a dream-like state for greater lucidity, and also some ways of passing the problem to be solved over to your subconscious. But I fail to see how having the DRD4 "Wayseer gene" or even a hyperactive/ADD Wayseer personality will make these tricks any more applicable.

Strip away the gimmicks and the book becomes just like many other self-help books. By telling you to follow your star, follow your dream, you will experience a much needed, albeit temporary, elevation of your feeling of self-worth. Like the other books, it suffers as I mentioned from pitching to you at too high a level, making demands that are impossible to meet (for now). You will need to take LoPorto's suggestions, think about them a lot and keep returning to them to decide which ones apply best to you. Nothing wrong with this. While you're at it, buy or borrow similar books and compare them to put LoPorto in perspective. Certainly better to take up a hobby of following in great men's footsteps than sitting in a room staring at your navel. Above all, don't sit there expecting help to come to you. Wayseers don't behave like that.


http://i51.tinypic.com/qzofp5.png

[astrid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA

http://www.wayseermanifesto.com/


Not a bad one to pass on to those waking up.........

Seems to be movements starting all over right now,

its encouraging stuff.

No Question that this is our time.

[astrid]

okies.... egg on face... this is already posted....
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16618

mods please merge or remove??

thanks A

[astrid]

Well in true ADD /Aspergers form i posted a very long post in this thread and the whole thing disappeared..

Pity as i had a lot to add here , i will see if i can re-create

I'm sorry i'm not quoting anything in particular here, its more just a general comment on things that have been said on this thread.

Being both ADD and Aspergers i can speak from experience.

And truly , u have to have it to really understand it.

It's very easy for people to judge us, and i don't buy into
it much these days.

If people want to understand and really learn how they can help rather than make things
harder for those that have a hard time fitting in
they will listen and be genuinely interested in our point of view on this subject.

The best people working in this field have it and have found ways to live, and excell.

It's funny that. When u do overcome the struggles, and do your own healing, all u want to do, is to help others do the same.

It becomes a passion and can be for some all consuming as its a VERY tough road for those that haven't yet found the right support,

By nature ADD/ADHD have ALOT of empathy , buckets of the stuff. We hate to see others suffer, especially if we think we have some way of helping.

(This can also be our downfall as we can put others before our own needs, i have this problem myself, and continually have to find the balance between being in service to looking after my own needs.)

And also, when u finally find a pathway where u can be productive, you tend to be very unstoppable.

So please don't begrudge those that have overcome hardship and are now working
full steam helping others do the same.

They come from a place of empathy and knowing.

Also bare in mind that behind someone successful with ADHD is a whole team of people acting as the prefrontal corftex.
( Read executive functioning, sorting organising PAPERWORK) .

So when u see someone with ADD/ADHD with a heap of sites, including making money, and looking
very well organised, there would be a whole machine working in the background.

SO before u judge , understand what is at play here.

Also note too that many of these creative ADHD types get ripped off and used by more money savvy business people, i have seen this a lot.

Sure its all about the dopamine, as in we look for ways to stimulate our brain chemistry.

Why you see a lot of fast paced entrepeneur types with ADHD,
Richard Branson is one example.
Don't hold that against us , its a good thing, this is a positive use of dopamine.

We have lots of projects on the go at once.

Our brains get bored fast, so one way to make sure u finish old projects is to start a new one, and use that new energy to help finish the last one.

I always have 5 projects on the go at least, and i change tasks often.
I need a lot of space, with areas for each projects.

It takes along time to work out what works, believe me.
But when u understand the mechanisms at play, you tend to look for all the healthy ways of dong this, rather than the destructive ways.

ADD is a bit different, and mostly found in girls,
its inattentive, daydreamy, distractible.
they are stil being missed on the diagnosis front as they are less disruptive
in the class room than the ADHD boys.
which are over diagnosed.

There are a few reasons for the increase in ADHD/ADD we are seeing.
For one , we tend to seek each other out, as we know and understand each other.

Two ADD/ADHD parents have an 85% chance of having ADD kids.
Also taking medication on time, regularly is a challenge,
so unplanned pregnancies are common.

Also we can be impulsive so another reason why women with ADD/ADHD often have more children than neurotypical women.

I know this post is a bit all over the place, as is my brain today, but i just wanted to make these few comments.
Will add more later.

Tony Attwood is excellent, and there are great non drug ways of getting more out of your brain.

I was on ADD meds, that worked to a point, but i was loosing too much weight, and i was more anxious.

These days i'm having biofeedback, everyweek. It's permanent and it works to down train or up train various parts of your brain.

I had a QEEG test that detailed VERY specifically what my brain was doing and not doing.

So i have a program written just for me, so work on the areas i need trained.

I will leave with this list. and its a long one....

Positive Characteristics of People with Attention Deficit Disorder.
151 Positives.

Ability to find alternate paths to overcome obstacles
Able to take on large situations
Adaptive/collaborative
Adventurous, courageous, lives outside of boundaries
Always finding alternate routes to any given location.
Always willing to help others
Ambitious – you want to be everything when “you grow up”
Artistic
Attractive personality – magnetic due to high energy
Being able to see the big picture
Being able to see the patterns in the chaos.
Being intuitive towards others’ difficulties
Broad focus – can see more, notice things more
Can create order from chaos
Can do many projects at once
Can make people feel they are heard
Can see the big picture
Can talk about several things at one time
Can think on my feet
Career variety
Centre of attention
Comfortable talking in front of groups
Comfortable with change and chaos
Compassion for others and for themselves
Conceptualizes well
Confidence
Constantly evolving
Courageous
Creates connections easily
Creative
Creative writing
Creative – musical, artistic, “dramatic”
Good in a crisis
Good at customer relations
Dedicated
Detail-oriented
Determined to gain more control
Eager to make friends
Eager to try new things
Empathetic, sensitive
Energetic
Entrepreneurial
Excellent organizers using journals and reminders (notes etc.)
Flexible – changes as the situation requires
Fun guy to be around
Goal-oriented
Good at conceptualizing
Good at motivating self and others
Good at multitasking
Good at problem solving
Good at public speaking
Good at understanding others/mind reading – empathetic
Good conversationalist
Good delegator and good at organizing others
Good in emergency situations
Good listener
Good looking and aware of it
Good people skills
Good self esteem, energetic
Great brain-stormer
Great multitasker
Great self-company
Great sense of humour
Great storyteller
Great with kids (central figure around kids)
Hands-on workers
Hard worker
Has friendly relations with their family
Has the gift of gab
Helpful
Helps others who are also in trouble
High energy – go, go, go
Humour, very healthy, quick picking up ideas
Hyper focus !!
Hypersensitive – very empathetic and good at non-verbal communications
Idea generator
Imaginative
Impulsive (in a good way) not afraid to act
Initiators
Intelligent
Intuitive
It’s ok to not finish everything
Learning as much as I can to help children and others with adhd
Less sleep is good (midnight to 6 am)
Like to talk a lot
Likes learning new things
Look at multidimensional sides to a situation
Lots of interests
Loves to cook and be creative
Magnetic
Master idea generator
Mentoring others/helpful
Mentoring people with low self esteem
Modesty
Move on fast – never hold a grudge
Multitasks well
Never bored and rarely boring
Never intimidated to try new things
Non-linear, multi-dimensional/edge of chaos
Not afraid to speak mind
Not contained by boundaries.
On stage and ready
Optimistic
Outgoing
Passionate
Persistent
Philosophical
Holistic thinking
Playful
Pragmatic
Problem solver
Profound
Quick thinking
Quick witted
Relates to people easily
Resistant
Resourceful
Saves money in the short term by forgetting to file tax returns
See and remember details – recount them later
Sees the big picture
Socially adaptive and flexible.
Spontaneous
Stabilizer during difficult situations
Stable
Successful
Takes initiative
Tenacious
Theoretical
Think outside the box
Thinks 2 meters ahead of the world
Thinks big, dreams big
Thorough
Tolerant
Unconventional
Unlimited energy
Unorthodox
Versatile
Very creative, able to generate a lot of ideas
Very hard working to compensate – workaholic
Very intuitive
Very resourceful
Very successful
Visionary
Visual learner
Willing to explore
Willing to take risks
Willingness to help others
Witty
Won’t tolerate boredom
Works well under pressure
Worldly

See why i often say this is OUR time??? Brains like ours do much better in times of chaos and change.

I've seen ADD kids repeatedly create chaos just for the stimulation effect, of course they don't realise why they are behaving that way , they come home from school, meds have worn off, and the first thing they do is push everyone's buttons.

You can see from that list too that the label ADD is totally wrong.
We don't have a deficient, we actually have a surplus of attention.
It's a filtering issue, we can't filter out the things we don't want to think about.

Look up Tom Hartman,
His ADD book was based around us being " hunters in a farmers world"
there is alot of truth behind this. Scanning the environment, for food, or prey,
being able to think with all senses... it was not only useful, but saved lives.

I also find it interesting that so many ADD friends i have are also RH negative.




Sorry this is so long...
mods feel free to move if u wish.
i will check back and reformat later.
of to another task,

blessings,

Astrid

[Icecold]

by nature ADD/ADHD have ALOT of empathy we hate to see others suffer, especially if we think we have some way of helping.

Yes Astrid, I picked that up in teaching Autism spectrum disorders (don't like that term).

Also thank you for this valuable post. I'm saving this information.

[astrid]

Hey Ice i have tons and tons of ADD/ADHD and Aspie resources,
all i did was study this stuff full time for 3 years while i was undergoing diagnosis.
So if i can be of any help in any way let me know.

I think i will most likely train in biofeedback myself at some point.
As its really a great tool to open up neuro-pathways.


this is one article i always went back too when i was struggling , its invaluable

http://www.addresources.org/?q=node/253



cheers,

A

[str8thinker]

Thanks Astrid. I think it's only natural that when someone suffers from a disability, whether it's ADHD, stuttering or whatever, and they meet someone else who also has it, the one that has managed to overcome some of it wishes to be able to help the other in any way possible.

[astrid]

Thanks Astrid. I think it's only natural that when someone suffers from a disability, whether it's ADHD, stuttering or whatever, and they meet someone else who also has it, the one that has managed to overcome some of it wishes to be able to help the other in any way possible.

True, but i was more referring to one of the Characteristics of ADD/ADHD being a higher than normal level of empathy.
I know a lot of sufferers and know this to be true across the board.

For example, im forever running short of money to pay bills and buy food as i'm always giving money to others that i think are more in need.
I have a girl friend ( ADHD) that is always coming up for the city to help me, but i often have to send her home as she has a family that all need her also.,,

IT was more a comment on you suggesting that Garret LoPorto maybe taking advantage of ADD sufferers.
If he has ADHD himself then very unlikely. Possible that he might be vulnerable to bad business deals, for sure....of course all speculation.
But knowing what i know, which is quite alot, its more likely his personal intentions are positive and for good.

Btw i did come across him in my research on ADD a few years back.

and i listened to a couple of lectures of his and one phone interview where there was also more doctor types on the show. .

He did come under fire with one of the doctors , that supported more medication type solutions ,

but read between the lines, ADD meds = BIG BUCKS, of course they would try to cut him down.

And yes, self taught, no training, which is a critisism we all get alot , but its also a judgement.

I have 4 degrees all unfinished, which means i'm not qualified for a "real" job.

So i do what i can to survive, lucky i fell into renovating houses.
It's a perfect" job" for me, as there is always something new to learn,

it means i always have somewhere to live, and can still be in service to others by offering a place to stay for those in need of a bed for the night.

I contend that anyone with ADD/ADHD that has managed to overcome and has some degree of success in this ****ed up world,

is way qualified for passing on their wisdom to others.

[str8thinker]

IT was more a comment on you suggesting that Garret LoPorto maybe taking advantage of ADD sufferers.

This is a difficult one. I agree with you (and Bill Ryan) that his outward intentions seem to be honest and he genuinely appears to want to help those who also have ADHD or ADD. How are we going to judge this guy in 5 years' time?

For a start, he can't be held responsible for not helping anyone who tries to follow his advice. "All care taken but no responsibility accepted." This applies to all similar books and self-help courses. The bottom line that interests me is, what percentage of people who try his offer will be able to look back and say "LoPorto helped me"? Only time will provide the answer.

My own feelings are that only the most capable ten percent of those with these personality traits will be able to recognize an improvement in themselves by assiduously following his practices. They would probably have already sensed that these are the directions they should take, and along comes LoPorto to confirm that they are not alone and a series of little pushes from him in the right direction are all they need. They already have the momentum to make it. If they keep reciting his advice like a mantra this will reinforce good behaviour patterns and they will succeed.

If LoPorto doesn't go off in all directions without completing anything, typical of the Da Vinci syndrome, and creates an online community of like-minded ADHD people who can bounce success ideas off each other, then the percentage of those helped should be much greater than my estimated ten percent - maybe thirty or forty percent helped in some way, no matter how slight.

Of the remainder, I would guess about half will say LoPorto's advice made no difference to their lifestyle, and the other half may say his advice made unreasonable demands on them and was counterproductive. (This is similar to the well-known 30%-30%-30% rule - one-third improve, one-third notice no benefit and one-third find they are worse off.)

One problem with his method is that not many therapists appear interested in pursuing it vigorously. As the last review in one of my earlier posts showed, the Da Vinci method and similar ones are regarded as ancillary treatments, certainly not the mainstay.

[astrid]

One problem with his method is that not many therapists appear interested in pursuing it vigorously. As the last review in one of my earlier posts showed, the Da Vinci method and similar ones are regarded as ancillary treatments, certainly not the mainstay.

First thing, so few so called professionals will even acknowledge ADD exists.
Secondly the "mainstay" treatment is still stimulant drugs, Ritalin, Dexamphetamine, Adderall... BIG BUCKS.
Of course they would not want the non- drug treatments out there....

Same reason why biofeedback is not widely supported and why its so hard to find a practicer

The other thing is those with ADD are not stupid, they try alot of things, and use what works. There is alot of trial and error... ALOT.

And as ADD is not a "one size fits all condition", we do tend to borrow ideas and tips form all over and build our own verison of what works. You wont get an ADD sufferer following anyones program to a "T" but instead they use ideas as an inspiration to re-build hope and confidence. We are mostly looking for bridging information, to get us from where we are now, to where we want to go. This can come from anywhere....



The Divinci Method is but one idea to explore, i wouldn't worry yourself overly that we might get sold a "lie" we try lots of things, and we move on pretty quickly if something is not working...


Peace,

Astrid

[str8thinker]

First thing, so few so called professionals will even acknowledge ADD exists.
Secondly the "mainstay" treatment is still stimulant drugs, Ritalin, Dexamphetamine, Adderall... BIG BUCKS.
Of course they would not want the non- drug treatments out there....


The Divinci Method is but one idea to explore, i wouldn't worry yourself overly that we might get sold a "lie" we try lots of things, and we move on pretty quickly if something is not working...

Astrid, I understand how you feel about not wanting to be prescribed drugs. But there are other considerations here besides big bucks.

Put yourself in the therapist's chair. Let's say your therapist is honest and wants the best outcome for you, in accordance with how he has been trained and his expectations as to how you will progress under his treatment based on his experience. Let's assume he considers the income he makes to be far less important than your welfare. He expects Ritalin (or some other drug) will do some good here, maybe far from ideal but still better than not being on any medication at all. He is also aware that the dose will need to be adjusted to suit each patient and until the optimum state is reached, unpleasant side effects may occur. All this requires your informed consent.

If your therapist is also a motivator he will be more inclined to introduce elements of the LoPorto method into the treatment, maybe combining them with drug therapy at first and later reducing the drugs as much as possible. He may combine this with dietary modifications to avoid foods causing hyperactivity, etc. All this is part of his plan, which should be documented for purposes of peer review.

Above all, he should not want any element of his treatment plan to fail so badly that you turn on him, blame him and maybe even sue him. Equally well, he does not want his professional colleagues to take him to task for abandoning orthodox methods for relatively unproven ones (primum non nocere). This is why he may be reluctant to add such treatments as the Da Vinci Method to his tools, and he should be able to explain these concerns to you clearly.

The other problem you face is that if, despite his initial optimism for a new treatment, he finds himself unsuccessful in applying it to you or others, he may discourage you from trying it or refer you to someone else who is not afraid to try it. So you may be put off trying the Da Vinci Method simply because the way to integrate it into your present therapy is not clear-cut to him.

For this new tool to be proven to work, there needs to be a study with enough therapists and volunteers to make the results statistically significant. Bypassing this step easily spells disaster. It took a long time for acupuncture to become accepted into Western medicine, even though the Chinese had been performing it for at least a thousand years. Unless LoPorto puts his money where his mouth is and instigates this kind of serious trial, there is a risk that he will be judged simply as a well-meaning but misinformed amateur.

Such a study is not difficult to organize, but obviously (to make it impartial) those entering it should be people who have never heard of LoPorto or Wayseers, i.e., their expectations have not been raised in advance. There are plenty of existing, well-tested personality inventory tests that can be used to measure successful outcome.

All this is a far cry from the individual attempting to gain benefit from self-treatment, which is almost like self-medication (something a lot of PA members discuss here in one form or another). Unless you find a practitioner who is unafraid of helping you get the best out of such a new approach, rushing into it yourself means you're out there on your own.

Do you get a certificate when you become an accredited Wayseer?

[Marshlight]

Very cool, I like the message. It's the differences culturally and individually, that bring us together and make us strong. :cool:

[Jean-Luc]

I must admit that when I watched this video on March 19, I was moved. But at the same time I also felt uncomfortable with a number of things. Now I haven’t spent an awful lot of time looking at the details like many of you here have done. I simply bumped some 10 days later onto this analysis of the Wayseer’s text by our (sometimes) friends of Sott and thought it was worth the sharing :

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/226455-Wayseer-Manifesto-Selling-Freedom-or-Selling-Psychopathy-

Like for instance this one :

"Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you is actually what's right with you."
Well now... The question is, which "establishment"? The psychopathic establishment that fosters war, impulsiveness, dog-eat-dog capitalism and social misery? Or the collective effort of people working together - all of us - who want to see each other healthy and happy? Social organization isn't bad. Community isn't bad. What's bad are the psychopaths who have corrupted our community, made it toxic, bending it towards war, greed and insanity and the psychological and emotional enslavement of everybody, children and adults alike.

Or this one (and yes, I am myself not too fond at all of rules…)

"You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way."
Which rules? There are all kinds of rules for just about everything imaginable - including grammar. And there is a big difference between rules that are stupid, boring and pathological - and those rules that are the only thing standing between pathological individuals and their urges to rape, rob, pillage, destroy, hurt, maim, kill, etc., etc., etc. Which rules are which? You need your prefrontal cortex to tell the difference. Psychopaths are well-known to be 'rule-breakers', but the rules they break are the ones that make human beings different from predatory animals.

While I haven’t had the time to look into the details of this rather longish analysis (which may be a little farfetched), it seems to me it deserves some attention. Please look at the link for details.

[vibrations]

Reading all this, I feel a lot of respect for all of you about knowledge accumulated about human behaviour you all exposed here. Really admirable.

And I will try to tell you what has Manifesto moved inside of me.

I just don't approve any authority which impose ANY rule over any individual. This is the conclusion of my over 50 years of participation in this society now.
By my opinion the society has to be rebuild from scratch. And this is what the manifesto is saying to me. The level of human awareness is rising from moment to moment, there are more and more people aware of an inside morality, inner ethics, universal justice we all know and the majority don't practice. But in the same time there are more and more people starting to incorporate these universal laws (the only valuable ones) to their behaviour.

When I was studying law one of my professor said a few undeniable truths:


Every written law is there just to serve to the interests of a ruling class. If some law also benefits a common citizen it's called collateral damage.

Every prohibition is a clear sign of governmental incompetence to find a positive solution for a problem.


And who is making laws. Well, they are written by lawyers. OK, anybody knows a lawyer which is not a liar? I don't. Maybe you, but investigating a little, there will be very little place to find one. Ok, and the written law is than presented to the Parliament for its approval. And what is Parliament. As you can find for yourself the origin of the word itself is self-explanatory. Parlia=talk and mient=lie.
So we are here to obey laws written by crooks and approved by professional liars. Is here something wrong or what. Oh, and do anyone knows some honest Politian?

it's my humorous way to explain the nonsense of the today's society. The society we know as such is dying, falling apart, so if we want something better we just cannot build on the existent basis. we have to build a parallel way for a better, healthier society.

This is more or less my synchronicity with manifesto. It's nothing new, but filled with positive intention.

And as my Avatar said: PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEIR GOVERNMENTS. GOVERNMENTS SHOULD BE AFRAID OF THEIR PEOPLE.

[str8thinker]

Thanks, Jean-Luc (post #97) for the SOTT link.

As much as I generally regard SOTT as a festering source of disinfo, Woodsman, the guy who wrote this analysis of the WS Manifesto went a lot further than I dared to go in my initial post #32 in this thread.

I know many PA members who have posted here find the Manifesto an invigorating and uplifting number and won't like what I'm going to say (apologies again, Constance), but Woodsman really saw through it and exposed the dark side of this video.


This video actually describes the exact attributes of the psychopath.

The world is filled with pollution that prevents our minds from working properly. But instead of advising you how to recognize and cut out these poisons, this video is instead telling you that these symptoms of toxicity are actually evidence that you are special and magical.

And so on.

I wouldn't dismiss these comments as a mere rant.


(from the Manifesto) Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality, they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with The Way.

If this isn't an invitation to condone psychopathic behavior, what is?

Especially to the younger members of our community, for whom your skies are still filled with clouds of glory and rainbows, I suggest that you save Woodman's page somewhere, forget about it, try out LoPorto's ideas, then return to it again in five years and decide whether Woodsman had a point after all.

[noxon medem]

Thank you, Constance, for the wayseer video.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA)
It is nice to see something that resonate with
the true rebellious nature of humans.
Watching it realy fired my mind and emotion, and
my first impulse was to share it wide and high.

But something does not feel right about this, and before
jumping LoPortos wagon, I decided to do some searching.
(I also work in media and know how easy it is to manipulate)

I see that many of the things I ran across, and the secondary
views on LoPortos Wayseer Community is allready covered.

Thanks a lot to str8thinker for your solid perspectivation on this.
It is highly needed, and you seem to have struck the truth in
the LoPorto/wayseer matter.
...
Being compared to "zook" is a sign of integrity and a true wayseer quality,
even if Bill seem unable to recognize that fact. You are most valuable here.
( Adding smileys does not turn insults into humour, Bill. :) )
...
The OP video,and subject, is potent stuff, and easily misused.
What LoPorto labels the Wayseers are certainly a key to change,
and therefore any initiative to lead that group must be scrutinized.
Heavily and seriously.
We wouldn't want anyone to lead us to storming a hill, when all
that is needed is to sit down at the well, drinking from it ?

LoPorto seems to have no idea where the well is. And in following
video he demonstrates a dangerously low and/or false understanding
of the real nature of dreaming.
He is propogating here the essence of the programming from mainstream schooling,
the limited edition so to speak.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_G_J0EPM7s&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_G_J0EPM7s&feature=player_embedded

It is possible that he simply do not have the full knowledge, but then
why should I, or anyone, trust him to be a teacher or leader in
any matter concerning the mind, the full reality, or the way ?

When visiting the wayseer page the first thing demanded is a
short profiling, and submitting emailadress.
(see the scientology-link str8thinker)

Discover if you are a Wayseer
Spend just 30 seconds
to answer these 10
questions and find out.
1 I like getting into situations where I can't predict how things will turn out.
True False
2 I like to act on impulse.
True False
3 It is important to me to get plenty of rest and quiet time.
True False
4 I would choose suffering over boredom.
True False
5 I like to follow established ways of doing things.
True False
6 I like new and exciting experiences even if they are frightening at first.
True False
7 When I'm interested in a project, I need less sleep.
True False
8 I am a creative problem solver.
True False
9 I like to be "wild" and uninhibited.
True False
10 I have flashes of insight I can't explain.
True False

Your First Name:

Your Email (required):


The DaVinci-method page has a similar profile.
Including the true/false dual answer-option, that is allways false.
Any wayseer knows that.

My advise is simple.
- Enjoy the inspiration of the Wayseer-video.
( or better, make your own ! )
Take it easy, and do not join LoPortos programming.

Here a comment from a bright young man on Utube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdkHTpS5w1k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdkHTpS5w1k&feature=related

It is interesting, and for me an even better kick then of the wayseervideo,
to see intelligent debate and expression on this and any issue, on the net.

See you all on the way, or by the well.
nm

[Arpheus]

This young man put it quite simple and yet in a very beautiful way and he is absolutely right tho!

[str8thinker]

Thanks Noxon Medem for your comments and those links.

After watching them, I agree, Brendyn (BrendynTV on YouTube) is very clear in his own mind about what is important and how LoPorto's offering falls short of it. Furthermore, I had no idea the Media For Your Mind, Inc. octopus (LoPorto's commercial organization) has so many arms on the Internet. Brendyn's YouTube comments make this clear:


Original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA
Garrett's official site: http://loporto.com/
Wayseer Manifesto Sales Page: http://wayseermanifesto.com
Davinci Method Sales Page: http://www.davincimethod.com/
Davinci Nation: http://www.davincination.org/
The Concord Society: http://www.concordsociety.org/

Other Loporto sales projects:
http://miracleimpulse.com/
http://wereinthistogether.com/
http://neanderthalgene.com/
http://www.instantinsomniacure.com/

Just search for Media For Your Mind, Inc.

One smart Neanderthal!

Why "The Concord Society"? Probably because Media For Your Mind, Inc. have their office in Concord, MA.

Here is a link to the second (final) part of Brendyn's evaluation:
THE WAYSEER MANIFESTO: The Truth - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3PvzXeL6Dk)

By now, as might be expected, more have launched themselves into the YouTube arena to air their views on the Wayseers, among them LLockandloadd:


Wayseers Are A Joke !!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS5l3ODroHo)
gS5l3ODroHo


Uploaded by LLockandloadd on Mar 22, 2011

My first ever video,sharing some insights on the Wayseers organization: (response to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA)

Basically in bullet points:

They tell you that you are special, unlike 90% of of the world that is programmed to opress you

You are a free spirit immune to this social programming, and the establishment is scared of you

And are so special because at some subconscious level you are in tune with the way!! And in their words The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space also known as Will of God, and the life-force.

HERE IS THE KICKER

Because you are so special you need to sign up to Garret John LopPorto's site pay him 15$ a month, buy his book and promote his organization. And as a reward you get to meet many other hoodwinked muppets that did the same thing.

There are only 10,000 more meaningful ways to rebel against the system, if you wanna know ask me


http://i52.tinypic.com/nvrz1g.png



L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., interviewed by Penthouse magazine in June 1983, talking about his father and the Church of Scientology:

Penthouse: There was no church when he wrote the book?

Hubbard: Oh, no, no. You see, his goal was basically to write the book, take the money and run. But in 1950, this was the first major book of do-it-yourself psychotherapy, and it became a runaway best-seller. He kept getting, literally, mail trucks full of mail. And so he and some other people, including J. W. Campbell, the editor of Astounding Science Fiction , started the Dianetics Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey. And the post office kept backing up and just dumping mail sacks into the building. The foundation had a staff that just ran through the envelopes and threw away anything that didn't have any money in it.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien240.html

[luciole]

This is a very inspiring video! It made me feel good when watching it.
Then when I read some very instructive comments about what's behind all of this, I wonder...

Is it the intention behind the information that's the most important?

Some self-help books have changed my life in a really positive way.

Then when I looked up the authors on the web, just to find out that it was all part of some huge money-making scheme , it turned me off and made me feel mad that they were using people's emotional problems to make millions.
BUT even though maybe some books were written by buisness driven idiots, or by some new age guy manipulated by the PTB,

my life HAD CHANGED!!

It's what you make of the information that's most important!!!

It's what you DO that changes who you are and the world around you!

so as I read the comments I think yes, there is something probably very suspect behind this, but if it made someone smile, and feel good, well it's maybe not that bad!!!!
:kiss:

[morgs59]

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/226455-Wayseer-Manifesto-Selling-Freedom-or-Selling-Psychopathy-

This made interesting reading.

[ktlight]

When we think of propaganda, we usually associate it with political messages. The thoroughly negative meaning of the term comes to us via the Nazis, whose slogans poisoned a whole nation. But it didn’t end with fall of overtly overt fascist regimes post-WWII, of course. Political propaganda appeals to the emotions by attempting to implant suggestions which bypass the intellect. People eventually get wise to it, so the propaganda just becomes slicker.
Normally, spiritual propaganda and lies are going to fool only those who truly need fooling so that they learn an important lesson…at some point. That is, it satisfies a superficial emotional craving in those left so disappointed with politics. They’re hovering on the threshold of beginning to understand the deeper reality but a lifetime of painful experiences within a system governed by pathology have left them unprepared for the soul-sweet traps sprung for them by the very system from which they wish to free themselves. Nothing can help them except a direct experience with self-destructive behavior.
But sometimes a piece of spiritual propaganda is so slick and clever, using the discoveries of the billion-dollar research engines of the ad industry and psychological warfare bureaus to produce something which is capable of sucking in even regular people.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA

source
http://www.wariscrime.com/2011/03/28/video/wayseer-manifesto-peddling-psychopathy/

[Humble Janitor]

Thanks for this post.

I had a feeling that this "manifesto" was some kind of hoax. It was posted on Avalon not too long ago and I admittedly was suckered (along with others) into thinking that it was a legitimate movement.

No more.

[Anchor]

HJ: did you read all that article?

He has some points but I think he is coming from a place deep within the old school of thinking.

I am not a psychopath, but I recognise a well crafted call to the wanderers among us when I see one. Now that may not have been the intent of this video, but most of the wanderers I met are not psychopaths - just people who are uncomfortable living in this time on Earth.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

To be honest i don't see the big deal.
Surely that the Wayshowers video is somehow psychopathic is just one persons view.
It may be well crafted, glossy propaganda but i'm not selling my house and giving them all my money, i'm not shouting their slogans in the street.
I think the overall message is a positive one, take from it what resonates with you.

[Humble Janitor]

To be honest i don't see the big deal.
Surely that the Wayshowers video is somehow psychopathic is just one persons view.
It may be well crafted, glossy propaganda but i'm not selling my house and giving them all my money, i'm not shouting their slogans in the street.
I think the overall message is a positive one, take from it what resonates with you.

That's what I was thinking.

Keep the positive points, discard the rest.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi All I encourage you all to familiarize yourself with James Martinez , he is a financial expert and journalist especially for you in North america....
This show was broadcast 7th july 2011 he discloses important infomation about part of the missing Trillions of dollars, Credit card debt , and he reads a statement from Amb. Leo Wanta .....He is probably one of the most upto date persons on financial 'scullduggary' on the web...He was an assiociate of Christopher
Storey who was taken out for exposing to much....James explains thats why he has kept under the mainstream radar....He mentions at the start he has been in contact with Alex Jones, who wanted to interview him because he is very well up on the money trail subject and with the NWO. But he will be going on when he is ready..

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2011-07-07--1200---Cash_Flow.mp3

As I said before Bill & Kerry interviewed James in nov 2009 on mp3 if you have not heard it ...Its worth a listen....
James was a close friend of Walter Bowart author of 'operation Mind control' and is fully aware
of what the 'Elites'are upto.. Imho he is in the same league as David Icke/alex Jones/Bill & Kerry and in some areas infront......
http://projectcamelot.org/mediafiles/audio/James_Martinez_Walter_Bowart_30_November_2009.mp3

You may have heard him on the clips I have been putting up with Ion, Althouth it is James show 'Cash Flow' , he takes a back seat on purpose as he want ions knowledge to be probed by Bob Nevritt primary... Don't ignore this, it is very important , if you can't be bothered now keep it for later , he has got 'Excelent' inside sources ........Cheers Steve

This is the vid james plays in his show ,That was sent in ...He has nothing to do with it...


OPR3GlpQQJA

[Darla Ken Pearce]

OPR3GlpQQJA


So you never fit in very well. You felt like a round peg in a square hole, eh? Here's why!

Get to know yourself better and why your are wired so differently than most people. You also need to appreciate all that you are and are becoming. Why? Because you are worth it! And there is no one like you in the whole world, that's why! Much love!

[Humble Janitor]

Bunch of crap that has already been posted on here.

Yay, more new age mumbo-jumbo to distract Avalonians!

[Mod-edit: yes, already posted here. I just merged it into the original Wayseer Manifesto thread. - Paul.]

[The One]

ATTENTION

Everything the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you

OPR3GlpQQJA

[Anchor]

Its a nice video, but one that poses some serious "discretion" checks. I think its been covered on the forum already.

[Lord Sidious]

This has been posted quite a few times already.

[ThePythonicCow]

A search for the youtube video code OPR3GlpQQJA shows 18 earlier posts of this video, beginning back on March 18, 2011.

:) :cow: :)

(No, I don't intend to merge the 19 threads ... such it is.)

[The One]

Whoops and cuckoo my fault should have checked doh :frusty:

[Anno]

ATTENTION: Everything the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you[...]

No ****.

I remember seeing this video a while back The One. Turned out to be yet another money making cult of glory if I recall correctly.

[Martin]

This has been posted quite a few times already.

It indeed has, but the seasons come about all the time too and I enjoying them nonetheless.


Martin

[Seikou-Kishi]

This has been posted quite a few times already.

It indeed has, but the seasons come about all the time too and I enjoying them nonetheless.


Martin

Same here. I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape about double postings. I certainly don't have time to check Avalon's extensive back-catalogue of threads before I post something. It's more organic not to, I think.

Anybody should post whatever they like. If people are bored of it, the thread will die it's own death without the daggers of "OMG Duplicate!" lol.

[Anno]

[...]Anybody should post whatever they like.[...]

I'm so saving that quote Oliver.

I agree with you and Martin about the duplicate moaning. It leads to thread merging and that is just plain evil. I think all threads should be left intact so people can see everything in its original context.

The Wayseer thing is still a con though. =]

[Seikou-Kishi]

[...]Anybody should post whatever they like.[...]

I'm so saving that quote Oliver.


Save this one right next to it "in the context of double-posting" :P

[Mad Hatter]

Trouble with duplicate posting is it makes the forum more kludgy if one wishes to use it as a subject matter resource which IMO is one of it's underutilised potentials.

[Anno]

Trouble with duplicate posting is it makes the forum more kludgy if one wishes to use it as a subject matter resource which IMO is one of it's underutilised potentials.

I use Google to get around that:

site:Zprojectavalon.net keyword/phrase*

That way it also includes the old archived forum, too. I've found a lot of useful info in the old forum.

*edit: remove the Z. If I take it out the : and p become a :P. There shouldn't be a space between the : and the domain name. Oh and it will include all content from the site including transcripts and whatnots.

[mojo]

Wow...We are the same...the way... I loved it...
It's the first time I seen the video and I appreciate your efforts bringing beautiful gems like this, thanks again my friend...cheers

[Anchor]

The video is fun, it is where it leads you that is questionable. Have a look at the website that it is associated with.

Here is a transcript from an earlier incarnation of this thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16618-Could-this-be-you-Garret-LoPorto-and-the-Wayseer-Manifesto&p=178814&viewfull=1#post178814

And this is the OP of that thread which got a lot of commentary at the time

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16618-Could-this-be-you-Garret-LoPorto-and-the-Wayseer-Manifesto

[ThePythonicCow]

I agree with you and Martin about the duplicate moaning. It leads to thread merging and that is just plain evil. I think all threads should be left intact so people can see everything in its original context.
Currently I consider thread merging like I might consider merging two groups at a cocktail party where I was hostess (bad image - I don't have the legs for that role.)

Blending two simultaneously active conversations, just because they are on similar subjects, would like be a web blanket on both - not good.

But bringing in an isolated person or two (or in the case of this forum, an isolated post or two of a new thread) into an existing thread on the same subject can encourage more good discussion.

To be more specific, I tend to avoid merging when (1) I'm feeling lazy, or (2) when the two candidate threads to merge have active overlapping discussions in the same time period. If I see a new thread pop-up on a subject already being discussed, I am more likely to merge it, if I can, while it is still a new thread of just a post or two.

[VaughnB]

Hey, I LOVE THIS VIDEO. There is a way out. We are NOT ALONE. This video includes my most favorite of heroes, visions, and moments in film, art and music.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OPR3GlpQQJA

[scanner]

Love it , thanks for reminding me .

[etm567]

Love it , thanks for reminding me .

Me too. Quite nice, and I had forgotten all about it.

[RunningDeer]

Credit for posting this video goes to Earthlink (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69588-Surfing-with-Wind&p=939975&viewfull=1#post939975) on Wind’s thread, “Surfing with Wind”. Spanish version here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80540-The-Wayseer-Manifesto&p=941151&viewfull=1#post941151).




ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers - all you free spirits and pioneers - all you visionaries and non-conformists …


OPR3GlpQQJA

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you.
You see things others don't. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike 9 out of 10 people - your mind is irrepressible - and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment - and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you've been told your strengths were weaknesses

Now I'm telling you otherwise. Your impulsivity is a gift - impulses are your key to the miraculous,

Your distractibility - is an artifact of your inspired creativity,
Your mood swings - reflect the natural pulse of life, they give you unstoppable energy when you're high and deep soulful insight when you're low,

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That's society's latest way to deny it's own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection.

Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn't anyone ever tell you?!

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries and innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets and mavericks, philosophers and derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders - prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "the Way.”

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as the Will of God, Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit, the implicate order, the Tao, reverse-entropy, life-force, but for now we'll simply call it "the Way."

The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire. Love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it. Giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius, when perceived through the eyes is beauty, when felt through the senses is grace, when allowed into the heart ... is love.

Most people cannot sense the Way directly. But then there are the Wayseers. The keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing the Way. They sense it in their very being. They can't tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can't show their work. So don't ask. Their minds simply resonate with the Way. When the Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, "the Way" stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people's awareness of the Way - censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex - the gestapo of the brain -  nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through; but your mind is different.

Your mind has been cracked wide open to the Way - by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your soul, your brain's reward pathways have been hijacked - dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex - now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious. Through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness showing you the Way.

This is what makes you a Wayseer.

90% of human civilization is populated with those who's brains are blocked to the Way.  Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind.

These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples' minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff.  

Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games.  Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality - they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with the Way.

The Wayseers are an ancient lineage. A kind of priesthood - carriers of the flame - ones "in the know."  There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society - giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage - so Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society - to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.

Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer. 

You've found your tribe. 


Welcome home.

<3

[Pam]

Great idea for a thread Runningdeer!!!!! I have spent a lot of time thinking about the tragedy of this trend to drug our children. Kids with spontaneity, kids that are bored by the tired, dreary education system, kids that are easily distracted and ones that can't sit still or be quiet. These were the adventurers, inventers and explorers of yesterday. We are taking kids that are full of life and drugging and dumbing them down so they can be like the others. If you are obedient, have no sense of curiosity , ask no questions and can accept the status quo without question you will do fine.'

I am so happy I did not give in to the school authorities that wanted to drug my daughter that was full of life and energy. My nephew on the other hand had a mother that bought the drugging option hook, line and sinker and her son did not do very well in the end. He is in prison at this moment. He was such a brilliant child. I was always blown away by his thought processes. He doesn't have those qualities that I am aware of any more.

What a great reminder that it is a blessing not to fit in. It's not always easy but it is worth it in the long run. Anyways, thanks for a great thread, Runningdeer.

[craig mitchell]

RunningDeer, I loved this, this.... little Masterpiece of theater, truth telling, poetic outreach to all of us who have the courage to be original. I teared up over the price we pay and pay until it finally gets rewarding, which often takes time, does it not?

Thanks, Craig

[RunningDeer]

RunningDeer, I loved this, this.... little Masterpiece of theater, truth telling, poetic outreach to all of us who have the courage to be original. I teared up over the price we pay and pay until it finally gets rewarding, which often takes time, does it not?

Thanks, Craig

I teared up over the price we pay and pay until it finally gets rewarding, which often takes time, does it not?

Hi Craig,

The Wayseer Manifesto helps put words to who I was growing up and how I continue to live. I’ve lost count on how many times I’ve listened to it. I choke with tears.

RunningDeer <3

[Earthlink]

There are so many great lines in this. One liners, whole phrases, and paragraphs. Whoever wrote this has great insight into the full spectrum of humanity, from the greatest to the smallest. Is there equality amongst the Human population, in so far as everyone is the same? No, not at all. Even the statement that 90% of humanity is made up of people who's minds are blocked to the Way could be scrutinized by "haters" into being elitist or something. Haters gonna hate but that will not change the reality that even while there are today what we would call young people and old people, this decades long difference during just one lifetime, where say one person is 25 and another is 75, the 75 year old will have some wisdom that isn't present yet in the 25 year old, there still remains the immortal age of all of us.

There are 3 year olds who's souls have been in the Human realm for hundreds of thousands of years now, and with an expanding population there are some who are here as Human, from another species, only for their first time, and this difference between people is permanent and only changes slowly as life times come and go. Because of the time line of eternity, there will always be current 3 year olds who are wiser than current 50 year olds. How old are you is a question that can be answered in terms of current Earth years, where as how old is your soul is a question that can only be answered in era's.

Once you have become an old soul, you don't care any more about so much of the "fluff" that goes on. You recognize it as an exercise in triviality immediately after a certain amount of life times, and you will always be content with just walking away from what another may insist is paramount!!!!

Also, once you are an old soul, you will accept that you will be shouldering some of the younger ones around you, and that your calling to do so is only going to repeat through all your coming lives, for, it isn't possible for anyone to catch up to you now. The beginning was an extremely long time ago, and if you were one of the first, none will ever catch you, so, you just resolve yourself to being the old soul you are, and, for lack of a better term, spend time putting out fires started by young people.

Of course this only applies to the here and now, as our Sun and Earth are both young in our galaxy. Once our solar system gets to be trillions of trillions of years old, like many of the other Suns and their planets towards the centre of our galaxy, the difference between the younger and older souls lessens, and things like population stability will allow a natural maturing of all the souls present.

Everything happens for a reason, including you.

:hug:

[RunningDeer]

There are so many great lines in this. One liners, whole phrases, and paragraphs. Whoever wrote this has great insight into the full spectrum of humanity, from the greatest to the smallest. ...

Everything happens for a reason, including you.

:hug:

I have a file called, “One-Liners”. I tried several times to pick a line or two from “The Wayseer Manifesto”. I’d end up copying chunks. Instead, along with the words I added visual and audio copies to all my “iTechnologies”.

Glad you found it, Earthlink. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/thanks/smileys-thanks-771216.gif

[RunningDeer]

Spanish version:


EL VIDEO QUE NO QUIEREN QUE MIREMOS !!!
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Uploaded on Apr 6, 2011

SI TODOS PUDIERAN SENTIR PARA LO QUE REALMENTE VENIMOS A ESTA VIDA QUE DISTINTAS SERIAN LAS COSAS,TANTAS COSAS ABARCA "TODOS SOMOS LO MISMO" ENTRE OTRAS COSAS NO PODRIAMOS JUZGAR AL OTRO,ESE TIEMPO LO USARIAMOS PARA MIRARNOS A NOSOTROS MISMOS, Y LO PRINCIPAL,(CAMBIAR LO QUE HACEMOS MAL).MUCHA GENTE NO PUEDE ENTENDER ESTE VIDEO Y PIENSAN QUE ES ALGO EN CONTRA DE LA PAZ,CUANDO EN REALIDAD ES TODO LO CONTRARIO.

[Wind]

Earthlink, what a great message you wrote there, something which all old souls can relate to. Life, it can be so funny...

[Guish]

Awakening starts from the inability to understand the world. Excellent video. Well put. I spent my teenage years listening to rage against the machine. I still rage but in a calmer way. Haha.

[RunningDeer]

Time to :bump: for new members. Lyrics below. Spanish version here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80540-The-Wayseer-Manifesto&p=941151&viewfull=1#post941151). :wave:




ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers - all you free spirits and pioneers - all you visionaries and non-conformists …


OPR3GlpQQJA

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you.
You see things others don't. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike 9 out of 10 people - your mind is irrepressible - and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment - and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you've been told your strengths were weaknesses

Now I'm telling you otherwise. Your impulsivity is a gift - impulses are your key to the miraculous,

Your distractibility - is an artifact of your inspired creativity,
Your mood swings - reflect the natural pulse of life, they give you unstoppable energy when you're high and deep soulful insight when you're low,

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That's society's latest way to deny it's own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection.

Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn't anyone ever tell you?!

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries and innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets and mavericks, philosophers and derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders - prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "the Way.”

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as the Will of God, Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit, the implicate order, the Tao, reverse-entropy, life-force, but for now we'll simply call it "the Way."

The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire. Love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it. Giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius, when perceived through the eyes is beauty, when felt through the senses is grace, when allowed into the heart ... is love.

Most people cannot sense the Way directly. But then there are the Wayseers. The keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing the Way. They sense it in their very being. They can't tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can't show their work. So don't ask. Their minds simply resonate with the Way. When the Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, "the Way" stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people's awareness of the Way - censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex - the gestapo of the brain -  nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through; but your mind is different.

Your mind has been cracked wide open to the Way - by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your soul, your brain's reward pathways have been hijacked - dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex - now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious. Through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness showing you the Way.

This is what makes you a Wayseer.

90% of human civilization is populated with those who's brains are blocked to the Way.  Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind.

These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples' minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff.  

Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games.  Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality - they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with the Way.

The Wayseers are an ancient lineage. A kind of priesthood - carriers of the flame - ones "in the know."  There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society - giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage - so Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society - to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.

Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer.
You've found your tribe.

Welcome home. :heart:

[CD7]

A most AweSome Manifesto. (((((( <3 )))))

[Earthlink]

You were born to be a revolutionary! You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way!


K0Lo1-_Eus4

This is one of Chris Hedges most recent appearances.

[Gardener]

Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable.

:)

[Earthlink]

Because there is music in this video, I call it one of my favourite music video's of all time.

I watch it a few times a year, at least, just to remind me. Thanks again for writing the words out Running Deer. I was assuming that in time, like all songs, that I would eventually memorize all of the words. Either there are just too many words, or, I R not capable :facepalm: hahahahaha

[RunningDeer]

Because there is music in this video, I call it one of my favourite music video's of all time.

I watch it a few times a year, at least, just to remind me. Thanks again for writing the words out Running Deer. I was assuming that in time, like all songs, that I would eventually memorize all of the words. Either there are just too many words, or, I R not capable :facepalm: hahahahaha

Ha! Earthlink, I get it. I've yet to memorize a song beyond nursery rhymes of yesteryear. I end up putting made up words in songs.
I made peace with it a looooonnggg time ago. :lalala::Music::Music::Music::peace:

[gripreaper]

Well, I'm sure glad I'm not a wayshower, cause all I want to do is sit around and eat processed microwave food, drink aspartamine colas, and smoke cigarettes while I bitch about how bad things are. So, I'm of no value to the Jade 2.0 system, I'm not part of the 15% divergents who are on a targeted list, and the powers that want to own and run planet earth have no interest in me. In other words, I'm just an asleep sheeple zombie destined to die early from toxicity when my function as a cog in the industrial machine reaches full amortization. :)

[Earthlink]

Well gripreaper, I can't see the expressions in you eyes and face as you say this, so I can't really tell exactly how much of what you said was cynicism ... but at least some of it is I'm sure.

It's really too bad that you are an energy based life form, like all the others, and as such, and knowing that energy can neither be created nor destroyed: only moved: you're going to be back here again very shortly after your toxic demise. :sun::sun::sun:

And thanks for the heads up Bill. All I can say is ... wow. There are so many threads in here, over so many years, I have not even began to even explore the tip of this iceberg, let alone the massive depths of what is not seen from the surface.

Thank you again for doing this!

Perhaps this can be likened to a TV re-run. They re-run stuff an TV all the time, which allows those who missed it the first time around the chance to see it. (no, I am not advocating TV, I loathe it these days, it's just the way I remember it from my childhood)

Of course you've seen it all, I suppose. Thanks for your patience with us :clapping:

And uh, one of these days, as soon as I succeed in making the sky a deeper shade of blue, I will be helping you with this with a donation or some other gratuitous gesture. That will be the point in my life, this time, where I can sit back and relax again.

[Earthlink]

I feel a song coming on :sun:

LET THE SUN SHINE!

Love is powerful and can seem like it is overwhelming you, yet don't be afraid of it. There are other things you could be overwhelmed with, so why not allow this one : )

06X5HYynP5E

[pueblo]

The Way!

OPR3GlpQQJA

[pueblo]

hHxk1Mg5n7I

[RunningDeer]

The Way!


OPR3GlpQQJA




ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers - all you free spirits and pioneers - all you visionaries and non-conformists …

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you.

You see things others don't. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike 9 out of 10 people - your mind is irrepressible - and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment - and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you've been told your strengths were weaknesses

Now I'm telling you otherwise. Your impulsivity is a gift - impulses are your key to the miraculous,

Your distractibility - is an artifact of your inspired creativity,
Your mood swings - reflect the natural pulse of life, they give you unstoppable energy when you're high and deep soulful insight when you're low,

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That's society's latest way to deny it's own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection.

Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn't anyone ever tell you?!

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries and innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets and mavericks, philosophers and derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders - prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.




You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "the Way.”

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as the Will of God, Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit, the implicate order, the Tao, reverse-entropy, life-force, but for now we'll simply call it "the Way."

The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire. Love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it. Giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius, when perceived through the eyes is beauty, when felt through the senses is grace, when allowed into the heart ... is love.

Most people cannot sense the Way directly. But then there are the Wayseers. The keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing the Way. They sense it in their very being. They can't tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can't show their work. So don't ask. Their minds simply resonate with the Way. When the Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, "the Way" stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people's awareness of the Way - censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex - the gestapo of the brain -  nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through; but your mind is different.

Your mind has been cracked wide open to the Way - by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your soul, your brain's reward pathways have been hijacked - dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex - now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious. Through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness showing you the Way.

This is what makes you a Wayseer.

90% of human civilization is populated with those who's brains are blocked to the Way.  Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind.

These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples' minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff.  

Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games.  Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality - they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with the Way.

The Wayseers are an ancient lineage. A kind of priesthood - carriers of the flame - ones "in the know."  There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society - giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage - so Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society - to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.

Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer. 

You've found your tribe. 


Welcome home. ♡

Available on iTunes (http://bit.ly/eM2jy4)

[ExomatrixTV]

Video is from Mar 11, 2011 and I saw it on Mar 12, 2011 ;)

[RunningDeer]

http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/s-peace.gif


That we don't wanna fight no more
There will be no more wars
And our children will play http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/love.gif


Matisyahu - One Day
WRmBChQjZPs




One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)

Sometimes I lay
Under the moon
And thank God I'm breathing
Then I pray
Don't take me soon
'Cause I am here for a reason

Sometimes in my tears I drown
But I never let it get me down
So when negativity surrounds
I know some day it'll all turn around because...

All my life I've been waiting for
I've been praying for
For the people to say
That we don't wanna fight no more
There will be no more wars
And our children will play

One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)

It's not about
Win or lose
'Cause we all lose
When they feed on the souls of the innocent
Blood-drenched pavement
Keep on moving though the waters stay raging

In this maze you can lose your way (your way)
It might drive you crazy but don't let it faze you, no way (no way)
Sometimes in my tears I drown (I drown)
But I never let it get me down (get me down)

So when negativity surrounds (surrounds)
I know some day it'll all turn around because...
All my life I've been waiting for
I've been praying for
For the people to say
That we don't wanna fight no more
There will be no more wars
And our children will play

One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)

All my life I've been waiting for
I've been praying for
For the people to say
That we don't wanna fight no more
There will be no more wars
And our children will play

One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)

One day this all will change
Treat people the same
Stop with the violence
Down with the hate

One day this all will change
Treat people the same
Stop with the violence
Down with the hate
One day we'll all be free
And proud to be
Under the same sun
Singing songs of freedom like

One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)

All my life I've been waiting for
I've been praying for
For the people to say
That we don't wanna fight no more
There will be no more wars
And our children will play

One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)
One day (one day), One day (one day)

♡

[RunningDeer]

pueblo, I also liked this video from your thread: Everybody’ Free to Wear Sunscreen (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112683-Everybody-s-Free--to-Wear-Sunscreen--Baz-Luhrmann&p=1385336&viewfull=1#post1385336) http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/dancing-glasses.gif



Quote: Advice, like youth, probably just wasted on the young
(Everybody’s Free To Wear Sunscreen)
MQlJ3vOp6nI




Ladies and gentlemen of the class of '97
Wear sunscreen
If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it
A long-term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists
Whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable
Than my own meandering experience, I will dispense this advice now

Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth, oh, never mind
You will not understand the power and beauty of your youth
Until they've faded, but trust me, in 20 years, you'll look back
At photos of yourself and recall in a way you can't grasp now
How much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you really looked
You are not as fat as you imagine

Don't worry about the future
Or worry, but know that worrying
Is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing Bubble gum
The real troubles in your life
Are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind
The kind that blindsides you at 4 p.m. on some idle Tuesday

Do one thing every day that scares you
Saying, don't be reckless with other people's hearts
Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours
Floss

Don't waste your time on jealousy
Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind
The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself
Remember compliments you receive, forget the insults
If you succeed in doing this, tell me how
Keep your old love letters, throw away your old bank statements
Stretch

Don't feel guilty if you don't know what you want to do with your life
The most interesting people I know
Didn't know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives
Some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still don't

Get plenty of calcium
Be kind to your knees
You'll miss them when they're gone
Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't
Maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't
Maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the 'Funky Chicken'
On your 75th wedding anniversary

Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much
Or berate yourself either
Your choices are half chance, so are everybody else's
Enjoy your body, use it every way you can
Don't be afraid of it or what other people think of it
It's the greatest instrument you'll ever own

Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your own living room
Read the directions even if you don't follow them
Do not read beauty magazines, they will only make you feel ugly

Get to know your parents, you never know when they'll be gone for good
Be nice to your siblings, they're your best link to your past
And the people most likely to stick with you in the future
Understand that friends come and go
But a precious few, who should hold on

Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle
For as the older you get
The more you need the people you knew when you were young
Live in New York City once but leave before it makes you hard
Live in northern California once but leave before it makes you soft
Travel

Accept certain inalienable truths
Prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too, will get old
And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young
Prices were reasonable, politicians were noble
And children respected their elders
Respect your elders

Don't expect anyone else to support you
Maybe you have a trust fund, maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse
But you never know when either one might run out

Don't mess too much with your hair
Or by the time you're 40 it will look 85
Be careful whose advice you buy but be patient with those who supply it
Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past
From the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts
And recycling it for more than it's worth
But trust me on the sunscreen

[yelik]

Good, very good, and exceptionally good wake up video and reminder to us all

[pueblo]

The Way!


OPR3GlpQQJA




ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers - all you free spirits and pioneers - all you visionaries and non-conformists …

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you.

You see things others don't. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike 9 out of 10 people - your mind is irrepressible - and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment - and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you've been told your strengths were weaknesses

Now I'm telling you otherwise. Your impulsivity is a gift - impulses are your key to the miraculous,

Your distractibility - is an artifact of your inspired creativity,
Your mood swings - reflect the natural pulse of life, they give you unstoppable energy when you're high and deep soulful insight when you're low,

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That's society's latest way to deny it's own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection.

Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn't anyone ever tell you?!

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries and innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets and mavericks, philosophers and derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders - prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.




You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "the Way.”

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as the Will of God, Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit, the implicate order, the Tao, reverse-entropy, life-force, but for now we'll simply call it "the Way."

The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire. Love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it. Giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius, when perceived through the eyes is beauty, when felt through the senses is grace, when allowed into the heart ... is love.

Most people cannot sense the Way directly. But then there are the Wayseers. The keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing the Way. They sense it in their very being. They can't tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can't show their work. So don't ask. Their minds simply resonate with the Way. When the Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, "the Way" stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people's awareness of the Way - censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex - the gestapo of the brain -  nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through; but your mind is different.

Your mind has been cracked wide open to the Way - by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your soul, your brain's reward pathways have been hijacked - dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex - now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious. Through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness showing you the Way.

This is what makes you a Wayseer.

90% of human civilization is populated with those who's brains are blocked to the Way.  Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind.

These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples' minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff.  

Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games.  Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality - they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with the Way.

The Wayseers are an ancient lineage. A kind of priesthood - carriers of the flame - ones "in the know."  There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society - giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage - so Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society - to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.

Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer. 

You've found your tribe. 


Welcome home. ♡

Available on iTunes (http://bit.ly/eM2jy4)

Thanks for the transcript! :flower:

[Bill Ryan]

:bump::bump::bump:

[Tracie (Bodhicee)]

:wizard:

(bumping)

[RunningDeer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA




ATTENTION: All you rule-breakers, you misfits and troublemakers - all you free spirits and pioneers - all you visionaries and non-conformists …

Everything that the establishment has told you is wrong with you - is actually what's right with you.

You see things others don't. You are hardwired to change the world. Unlike 9 out of 10 people - your mind is irrepressible - and this threatens authority. You were born to be a revolutionary.

You can't stand rules because in your heart you know there's a better way.

You have strengths dangerous to the establishment - and it wants them eliminated, So your whole life you've been told your strengths were weaknesses

Now I'm telling you otherwise. Your impulsivity is a gift - impulses are your key to the miraculous,

Your distractibility - is an artifact of your inspired creativity,
Your mood swings - reflect the natural pulse of life, they give you unstoppable energy when you're high and deep soulful insight when you're low,

Been diagnosed with a "disorder"? That's society's latest way to deny it's own illness by pointing the finger at you. Your addictive personality is just a symptom of your vast underused capacity for heroic, creative expression and spiritual connection.

Your utter lack of repression, your wide eyed idealism, your unmitigated open mind - didn't anyone ever tell you?!

These are the traits shared by the greatest pioneers and visionaries and innovators, revolutionaries, procrastinators and drama queens, activists on the social scene, space cadets and mavericks, philosophers and derelicts, business suits flying fighter jets, football stars and sex addicts, celebrities with ADD, alcoholics who seek novelty, first responders - prophets and saints, mystics and change agents.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.




You know in your heart that there's a natural order, something more sovereign than any man-made rules or laws could ever express.

This natural order is called "the Way.”

The Way is the eternal substrate of the cosmos. It guides the very current of time and space. The Way is known by some as the Will of God, Divine Providence, the Holy Spirit, the implicate order, the Tao, reverse-entropy, life-force, but for now we'll simply call it "the Way."

The Way is reflected in you as the source of your inspiration, the source of your passions, your wisdom, your enthusiasm, your intuition, your spiritual fire. Love. The Way takes the chaos out of the Universe and breathes life into it. Giving it divine order. The Way, when expressed by the mind, is genius, when perceived through the eyes is beauty, when felt through the senses is grace, when allowed into the heart ... is love.

Most people cannot sense the Way directly. But then there are the Wayseers. The keepers of the flame. Wayseers have an unexplainable knack for just knowing the Way. They sense it in their very being. They can't tell you why or how they arrived at the right answer. They just know it in their core. They can't show their work. So don't ask. Their minds simply resonate with the Way. When the Way is present, so are they.

While others are blind to it, and society begs you to ignore it, "the Way" stirs you inside. Neurological repression blocks most people's awareness of the Way - censoring all thoughts and impulses from the unconscious is their prefrontal cortex - the gestapo of the brain -  nothing which violates its socialized programming even gets through; but your mind is different.

Your mind has been cracked wide open to the Way - by some miraculous genetic trait, some psychotropic chemical or maybe even by the will of your soul, your brain's reward pathways have been hijacked - dopamine employed to overthrow the fascist dictatorship of your prefrontal cortex - now your brain is free of repression, your mind free of censorship, your awareness exposed to the turbulent seas of the unconscious. Through this open doorway divine light shines into your consciousness showing you the Way.

This is what makes you a Wayseer.

90% of human civilization is populated with those who's brains are blocked to the Way.  Their brains are hardwired to enforce the social programming indoctrinated since birth. Unlike you they cannot break out of this programming, because they have not yet experienced the necessary revolution of mind.

These programmed people take social institutions and rules very seriously. Society is full of games programmed to keep peoples' minds occupied so they will not revolt. These games often cause sick fixations on peculiar protocols, power structures, taboos and domination - all subtle forms of human bondage. This distinct form of madness is not only tolerated by the masses but insisted upon. The programmed ones believe in rules so forcefully they become willing to destroy anyone who violates them.

Wayseers are the ones who call their bluff.  

Since Wayseer minds are free to reject social programming, Wayseers readily see social institutions for what they are - imaginary games.  Wayseers comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Helping those who are lost in these games and refuse to help themselves is a calling of many Wayseers. Since Wayseers are the ones who keep contact with the original source of reality - they are able to disrupt societal conventions and even governments to realign humanity with the Way.

The Wayseers are an ancient lineage. A kind of priesthood - carriers of the flame - ones "in the know."  There must always be Wayseers to reform the dizzying psychotic spinning wheels of society - giant mindless hamster wheels obscuring the pure blue sky, keeping humanity shackled in a darkened cage - so Wayseers are called - to shed light on the madness of society - to continually resurrect the timeless transcendent Spirit of Truth.

Wayseers reveal this divine truth by devoting themselves to the birth of some creative or disruptive act expressed through art or philosophy, innovations to shake up industry, revolutions for democracy, coups that topple hypocrisy, movements of solidarity, changes that leave a legacy, rebellions against policy, spirit infused technology, moments of clarity, things that challenge barbarity, watersheds of sincerity, momentous drives for charity.


We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all affected by the way
We are - all - the same - you know
'cuz we're all attracted to the flame.

This is your calling, Wayseer. 

You've found your tribe. 


Welcome home. ♡



* Available on iTunes

[RunningDeer]

How You Change People (4 min)




December 22, 2016
Garret John (https://www.youtube.com/@MostHigh/videos)
WayseerManifesto.com (https://www.wayseermanifesto.com/)


TCcTJjLFDE8




“You may not like how things are going. You may not agree with those who seem to have power over your happiness.

But here is a great secret of life:

You have way more influence than you realize.
Gandhi called this influence Truth Force - Love Force - Soul Force.

It is the inherent power in you to conjure the truth and the very best in other people.

It is the power in you to change people’s hearts and minds by changing the way you see them - by changing the way you observe them.

Nobel physicist Max Planck said “When you change the way you look at things - the things you look at change.”

Scientists have discovered that when a teacher is merely told a student has a higher IQ, that student’s IQ rises to meet the teacher’s expectations.

Expecting the best from people, brings out the best in people.

But the reverse is also true. Seeing the worst in people, brings out the worst in people.

Your consciousness has the power to conjure the very best or the worst in everyone you observe - even at a distance…

Our friends. Our family. Our children. Our co-workers. Our police.
Even our Presidents. We have the power to change each and every one of their hearts and minds, simply by changing our own hearts and minds about them.

We all have darkness in us - but we also have the Light -
and in every moment we have another chance - another choice - of whether darkness or the Light is given reign over our consciousness.

What you stand witness for in others, is strengthened in them by the power of your observation.

When you look for the worst in someone - when you make them wrong in your mind - when you refuse to see the best in them - you are committing a spiritual assault of the worst kind - for you are testifying against their ability to choose the Light, standing witness for the darkness in them, and strengthening its power over their heart and mind.

If you've ever faced a hostile crowd, a hostile cop, a hostile lover - you've felt the destructive force of another’s contempt for you.

Do not give in to this way of seeing!
Stand witness for the Light in others!

The unassailable divine spark forever shines in the hearts of every man, woman and child - just waiting to be called forward.

When you call on the divine spark in someone you lend it the strength to prevail in their consciousness.

The power of your divine witnessing calls forth the truth in other people’s minds.

It calls forth the love in their hearts.

It calls forth the grace and beauty of their souls.

Divine witnessing is the most powerful form of non-violence, because it heals the very source of violence - it turns your enemies into friends - even when you thought they were deplorable and wrong.

In a place where you see no light - you make your own.

You call upon the divine spark within you - and invite it to reveal itself in those who oppose you.

The divine spark in your heart ignites itself in others through the blazing light of your consciousness,

Witness for that.
Strengthen that.
INSIST upon that.

The truth in me calls out to the truth in you -
for it is only that I will stand witness to.
It is only that I am determined to see.
it is only that I will testify for.
For to condemn you would be to condemn me - and we are the same.

And so I insist on regarding you
as true,
and good,
and wise,
and kind.

And so it will be,
because that is what we all want to see.

[RunningDeer]

"A Robot's Dream" - We Are From the Future (3:22)




September 16, 2015
Garret John (https://www.youtube.com/@MostHigh/videos)
WayseerManifesto.com (https://www.wayseermanifesto.com/)



AkhPm7UoIzY





Greetings.
We are from the future.
Everything is going to be alright.

The future - is a beautiful place -
you simply need to clear your mind in order to see it.
The imagery presented here is from a robot’s dream. It is the product of a neural net programmed to recognize visual imagery.

What this robot thinks it sees in these pixels, it projects back onto the visual field you’re looking at. It’s quite similar to what you might see if affected by psychedelic drugs - or in a dream state.

Notice how this artificial mind seems to introduce all sorts of things that aren’t really there?.. This is how you see, because all the things you see in these pixels - well... they aren’t really there either.

You see - Nothing is as it seems now.

Just like in the robot’s dream - all your perceptions are overlaid with imagery from the past. Instead of really seeing anything, what you see are merely pointers to memories already stored in your brain. Your vision is clouded - because your mind is haunted by these memories.

Every hurt you have suffered, every belief you hold dear, can block your vision like bricks in a wall, stopping you from seeing your present opportunities for happiness - because all you see only the past.

Until you have developed the awakened mind’s eye of a great visionary, mystic or artist - you are blinded to what’s right in front of you. This is why people stop seeing what is possible. This is why people stop seeing anything but what they expect to see.

This is why people lose the thread of their lives, and become blind to their highest calling. But you have the opportunity to see things differently.

Your awakened mind can replace a thousand dysfunctional images and beliefs from the past with one true vision. This greater vision is just waiting to be awakened inside of you.

Then the future is yours!!!

There will be a great light. And this light is yours.
There will be a great healing. And this healing is yours.
There will be a watershed of love - and this love is yours.

Because love -- that is the currency of the future.
And true vision -- that is the law of the land.
Because when you see how everything’s connected - you simply chose love - and that is sufficient.

By transcending the limits you’ve seen in the past, you open your eyes to what’s possible in the future.
By letting go of the darkness you experienced in the past, you learn to join the light of the future.

And we will all reach this light together. No one will be abandoned! This is the promise.

This is your life line.

A tiny thread of light extends to you from the Great Heavenly Light that awaits all of us at end of time. This thread of light is reaching out for you, beckoning to you, calling you home.

All you have to do is reach for this light - look for the tiny glimmers of love in your life and follow them, because everything you need is right in front of you.

[RunningDeer]

We Are From the Future (3:35 min)




March 12, 2012
Garret John (https://www.youtube.com/@MostHigh/videos)
WayseerManifesto.com (https://www.wayseermanifesto.com/)



15pOr1E6hvc




“Greetings...
We are from the future.
Everything is going to be alright.

The future is a beautiful place ... But you will need some training in order to inhabit it.

In the future - technology evolves faster than any human mind can think. When the singularity occurred. We became like gods - able to create entire worlds in the blink of an eye.

Every thought had drastic immediate impact. All of our dreams became a reality - but so did our nightmares. The future became a battle of ideas. We had to learn to direct our minds - to prevent dark psychological forces - from destroying all of us. Now with every new world we create, we summon the sacred imperative of mind... "Let there be Light."

"How can we be from the future?" you might ask. Let us explain. Plants harvest light with near perfect efficiency. You may not realize it, but this is impossible under classical physics. Along the way to the photosynthesizing core - photons of light should collide with other particles, but they don't. A photon succeeding in reaching the core is as likely - as you sprinting blindfolded through a dense forest - reaching the center without striking a single tree.

Plants are engaged in a kind of miracle. The plant puts the photon into a state of quantum superposition, multiplying it by every route that photon could possibly take. Imagine - blindly sprinting through a forest - being multiplied into every one of the billions of possible paths. If any one of your possibilities were observed hitting a tree, the superposition would collapse - and that would be your final outcome, but the plant patiently refuses to observe any of these casualties - while at it's heart it sings..."Let there be light."

When any of the possibilities finally reaches the core without fail, only that winner is observed. All the other possibilities disappear. The winner is transmitted back through time - from the future - and becomes the only possibility that ever existed. This is how photons reach the plant's core with impossible precision. This is how you - and every organism in existence - overcame the massive improbabilities of life. -- This is how we are from the future. This is how you will become the light of the world ... as we invoke the sacred imperative together ... "Let there be light.”




We Are From the Future — Next Stage is the Revolution of Love (5:22 min)



Nov 5, 2014

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Greetings.
We are from the future.
Everything is going to be alright.

Humanity is about to undergo an astonishing revolution.
Many have called for this revolution, but few understand what it truly means.

This coming revolution is part of a great progression towards an awakening of staggering proportions.

Life force is the creative self-organizing intelligence orchestrating all of this behind the scenes.

Life force is experienced by you as the feeling of Love - for Life and Love are the same.

What humanity is about to become is quite inconceivable to you right now,

But we are here to help make this transition a little easier.

[YOU ARE NOT ALONE]

Like gyroscopic force stabilizes a motorcycle - Life force [Love] stabilizes all living systems.

Populations full of love, cultivate honesty, courage and generosity, self-organizing and self -regulating without the need for coercive control.

Populations with deficits in love succumb to fear, violence and corruption, inviting coercive governments to combat the chaos and entropy that arises in the absence of love’s organizing intelligence.

Just as Life force is experienced as love, entropy is experienced as ego, hatred and fear.

The corrupt and power hungry feed on this fear.

Without enough gyroscopic force to keep it upright a motorcycle falls, likewise without enough love to keep them upright free and idealistic governments fall.

Populations too fearful, selfish and chaotic to stand on their own, invite despotic governments to forcefully rule and stabilize them like a kickstand for those who've lost their minds.

As long as a population has more fear than love, what appears to be democracy is often little more than a spectacle to mesmerize the masses. Autocratic power still operates behind the scenes. Its media directs people’s unconscious fears and aggressions towards invented enemies, insane competitiveness, rabid consumerism and addiction.
THIS SYSTEM WILL SELF DESTRUCT.

This system glorifies the ego, the embodiment of entropy, which convinces you that you are alone against the world, causing alienation, fear and aggression.

The core values of your culture have been hijacked, forging a pathologically antisocial anti-ecological system obsessed with profit, power and control.

THIS SYSTEM WILL SELF DESTRUCT.

Real change must now come from outside this system.
Real change must now come from you.

Just as free and idealistic governments can’t survive the entropy of populations filled with fear Egoic coercive governments can’t survive the creative self-organizing power of people filled with love.

Gandhi called this power soul force, life force, love force. It is the fundamental force behind all nonviolent revolution and the unassailable creative intelligence of Life.
True freedom and equality requires a population alive with this self-organizing intelligence.

The coming awakening happens in stages.
And the next stage... is THE REVOLUTION OF LOVE.

Love is the organizing force behind all that is beautiful, joyful and creative in this world.

Power structures are merely the reflection of a population’s levels of love or fear.

But true love casts out all fear making graceful revolution not only possible but inevitable.

so the next stage... is THE REVOLUTION OF LOVE.

When you unleash the sentient energies of love, then, for the second time in history the world, humanity will have discovered fire.
The fires of love will spread through all people, thus all systems shaping the world in its own image.

Love is a force of nature. And so are you.

The coming singularity happens in stages.
and the next stage... is THE REVOLUTION OF LOVE.
The love that fuels this revolution starts with you.
You can become an agent of love, allowing it to guide you and govern your actions.

Love is increased through communion, song, mindfulness, prayer, humor, forgiveness and connection.

(We will reveal more in future transmissions.)
For now, communicate to every sentient being you encounter:

I see you.
You are not alone.
We are in this together.
You are loved.
The revolution of love is here - and all is well.
So... Let there be Light!

[Arcturian108]

I didn't watch the videos, but the summaries strike me as so much mood-making, with no real substance. Garret and his Wayseer videos have been around for a while, and really seem like empty shells to me, or controlled opposition.

[wondering]

Arcturian108, Is there something you can share with us that is closer to what you experience as your truth? If this doesn't resonate, is there something that does? I would like to know what that might look like. ✌️ Wondering

[Anchor]

In the future - technology evolves faster than any human mind can think.

This is a red flag. When I watched the original video, transcribed it, commented on it etc it was over 10 years ago.

We didn't know much about the distinctions between technology and spirit. We still don't, but there is a growing awareness that AI for example could pose an existential threat.

Technological evolution appears to be happening to the detriment of human body, and human mind development - and the spirit doesn't get a look in.

Technology must remain the servant.

A..

[Harmony]

In the future - technology evolves faster than any human mind can think.

This is a red flag. When I watched the original video, transcribed it, commented on it etc it was over 10 years ago.

We didn't know much about the distinctions between technology and spirit. We still don't, but there is a growing awareness that AI for example could pose an existential threat.

Technological evolution appears to be happening to the detriment of human body, and human mind development - and the spirit doesn't get a look in.

Technology must remain the servant.

A..


I agree 100% that technology should rremain a tool or servant and used with caution, only for the betterment of our natural human development and never have power over humanity.

In the next paragraph below I am understanding that was the beginning or a type of catylist that encouaged disipline and focus to create the world we want when it was discovered how powerful our thoughts really are. The message seems to be saying we are the essence that creates, don't wait for it to come from somewhere else or some other being etc. What we hold within our selves is the key to creation.

Personally I don't want AI to ever get that far, but if it did...



In the future - technology evolves faster than any human mind can think. When the singularity occurred. We became like gods - able to create entire worlds in the blink of an eye.

Every thought had drastic immediate impact. All of our dreams became a reality - but so did our nightmares. The future became a battle of ideas. We had to learn to direct our minds - to prevent dark psychological forces - from destroying all of us. Now with every new world we create, we summon the sacred imperative of mind... "Let there be Light."

[Anchor]

In the future - technology evolves faster than any human mind can think. When the singularity occurred. We became like gods - able to create entire worlds in the blink of an eye.

Every thought had drastic immediate impact. All of our dreams became a reality - but so did our nightmares. The future became a battle of ideas. We had to learn to direct our minds - to prevent dark psychological forces - from destroying all of us. Now with every new world we create, we summon the sacred imperative of mind... "Let there be Light."

Well, one possible interpretation of that, which wasn't really possible for me 12 years ago, is in the context of neural links and the idea of connecting brains to advanced digital systems, thoughts could easily instruct AI in the creation of a Virtual Reality.

I am not dead set against any of these videos, I still think they are very good, but the main reason for me commenting on them now is my personal hindsight.

There is nothing wrong with any message that asserts: We are from the future, and everything is going to be OK! You can take it or leave it. For me, it resonates as true today as it did back then.

We are going to be ok. I believe that we almost at the tipping point where our lives will be lived with restored balance, and the realities of our minds and bodies and souls/(spirit) will be increasingly unfettered by evil.