Please dont set us free

[jorr lundstrom]

Human: Please dont set us free

Elite: That is not in our power

Human: But you have enslaved us for so long

Elite: No, you have enslaved yourself

Human: But we have lived according to your wishes

Elite: It has been out from your free will

Human: Wot do you mean?

Elite: Nobody has forced you

Human: yes you have

Elite: No, you have choosen yourself

Human: Ok, but please dont set us free

And so on and on and on...................:hug:

[Ahkenaten]

These power elites though I hate the term because it dignifies them more than they deserve are only a reflection of our dark side...............there is always a complimentary aspect to power dynamics. One cannot exist without the other. Rather than getting drawn into a bloody battle between perceived opposites it is very important to understand that one cannot exist without the other. Once the "underdog" sees the "OVERDOG" as but a reflection of his own feelings of powerlessness and inadequacy, true progress can be made. That is what I have been trying to get at, Jorr, with my discussion about removing consent from the control paradigm. That is why we are admonished above all to love our enemies. Because our greatest lessons about ourselves are to be learned from our enemies, who after all, are only a reflection of our darkest impulses. The battle, if there is any, occurs at the mudane material level. On the spiritual level, these differences dissolve. We should learn our lessons here, but not make the mistake of being overly attached to the cosmic play of Maya. All arises from, and dissolves back into, pure energy. There are other ways to proceed in this world than blatant engagement in battle - unless that is what one enjoys and unless one is a true soldier.

[skippy]

Jorr,

First of all, I would like to thank for your posts, which I appreciate a lot. Regarding, this thread which you started I've a couple question: Are you saying that Humanity is not ready yet to assume the unbearable lightness of being? Is the problem, the elite or we, human beings..

Best Skippy.

[jorr lundstrom]

Jorr,

First of all, I would like to thank for your posts, which I appreciate a lot. Regarding, this thread which you started I've a couple question: Are you saying that Humanity is not ready yet to assume the unbearable lightness of being? Is the problem, the elite or we, human beings..

Best Skippy.

Its all about us. The elite cant do anything against our will. If people want

to realize that they already are free no elite can hinder this.

But are people ready to take resposibility for themself?;)

Are people ready to say, this is me, this is the way I see the world,

I may be alone having this view, but this is the way I see it. Are they?

[jorr lundstrom]

These power elites though I hate the term because it dignifies them more than they deserve are only a reflection of our dark side...............there is always a complimentary aspect to power dynamics. One cannot exist without the other. Rather than getting drawn into a bloody battle between perceived opposites it is very important to understand that one cannot exist without the other. Once the "underdog" sees the "OVERDOG" as but a reflection of his own feelings of powerlessness and inadequacy, true progress can be made. That is what I have been trying to get at, Jorr, with my discussion about removing consent from the control paradigm. That is why we are admonished above all to love our enemies. Because our greatest lessons about ourselves are to be learned from our enemies, who after all, are only a reflection of our darkest impulses. The battle, if there is any, occurs at the mudane material level. On the spiritual level, these differences dissolve. We should learn our lessons here, but not make the mistake of being overly attached to the cosmic play of Maya. All arises from, and dissolves back into, pure energy. There are other ways to proceed in this world than blatant engagement in battle - unless that is what one enjoys and unless one is a true soldier.

Dear Ahkenaten. True, so true. Of course there are other ways.

:angel: But who is gonna walk the talk?

When I recede back into pure energy I bring some old

programmings and they dissolve there. LOL

[Ahkenaten]

You are not alone. There is a saying that even the most repressive despotic regime cannot exist long without the support of the people it seeks to rule. It does not take violent revolution to topple diktators. First people must wake up to the problem and to the inherent powers within them, every one. Then there are many choices to make and avenues to take depending on the individual, their strengths and weaknesses and their personality - but first, above all there must be firm resolve NOT TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING PARADIGM. After that, it is my belief that people align across values - for example, the gardener taking positive action at his level, the forester taking positive action at his level, the father and mother taking positive action at their levels of serious responsibility for raising sentient human beings, students taking action at their level to direct their energies towards true knowledge and its application, etc. etc. It is almost like a storm rising, a pure force of nature, an alignment of molecules or atoms based on valence - rather than a "war." Anyway it is similar to an organic process of nature, something new arising from the ashes of the old. This is how I see what is going on right now.

Why would we want a "freedom" someone else gives us anyway, as you pointed out!! We want the "freedom" that is ours personally, as we each define it. That will occur when more and more of us realize that in each moment we are creating our reality, and we have the choice to create a heaven, or a hell.

THAT is how powerful we are.

One can be a warrior without going onto the battlefield. One can be a warrior in the truest sense at one's station in life. There, in our own lives, is where we are tested. There is where we suffer. There we may triumph.

I offer you this poem:

"withdraw the sword from bleeding hind (a hind is a deer)
draw up thine steed, yet leave him behind
deflect they beam (directed attention and energy)
from loss or gain.
for never shall ye sleep again."

[Maria Stade]

Ahkenaten
"withdraw the sword from bleeding hind (a hind is a deer)
draw up thine steed, yet leave him behind
deflect they beam (directed attention and energy)
from loss or gain.
for never shall ye sleep again."

I thank you for this gift !

Breath taking ! Poem !