Is Libya the Evolution of the False Flag Model?

[JoshERTW]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

Is the new model for invading a country to start a revolution of the people there, and then move in to "bring democracy?"

I'm amazed to only be seeing this now, but it makes sense - no one is gonna buy the "They have WMD's" thing anymore!

If there's already a revolution in progress though, we (as in the U.S. and its allies - speaking personally from an Ally point of view) are clearly the good guys! Its obvious that we are truly and honestly helping the people this way! We aren't just bombing the crap out of cities and saying that we are helping the poor oppressed people.

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

[jcocks]

And it's not as if there's oil involved, is it? ;)

So, question is, why are we invading? Is it as freedom fighters, or because of the sticky stuff? Hmmm?

[Calz]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

Is the new model for invading a country to start a revolution of the people there, and then move in to "bring democracy?"

I'm amazed to only be seeing this now, but it makes sense - no one is gonna buy the "They have WMD's" thing anymore!

If there's already a revolution in progress though, we (as in the U.S. and its allies - speaking personally from an Ally point of view) are clearly the good guys! Its obvious that we are truly and honestly helping the people this way! We aren't just bombing the crap out of cities and saying that we are helping the poor oppressed people.

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

CIA slips in a few "agent provacatuers" with some disenchanted locals ... presto ... revolution and freedom fighters trying to start democracy by overthrowing the tyrannical dictator.

Better send in the troops (err guess that is old school ... send in the cruise missiles and drones).

[T Smith]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

Is the new model for invading a country to start a revolution of the people there, and then move in to "bring democracy?"

I'm amazed to only be seeing this now, but it makes sense - no one is gonna buy the "They have WMD's" thing anymore!

If there's already a revolution in progress though, we (as in the U.S. and its allies - speaking personally from an Ally point of view) are clearly the good guys! Its obvious that we are truly and honestly helping the people this way! We aren't just bombing the crap out of cities and saying that we are helping the poor oppressed people.

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

The fact that anyone buys this attack is simply astounding. To say the U.S. and allies are attacking because of "democracy" is like saying the U.S. and allies are attacking because the sun is sitting in the seventh house of Pisces.

[Calz]

Hmmm ... let's see how this works.

Let's get together a good sized tea party group with a militia group (here in usa) then ask the UN for help to restore our REPUBLIC.

I bet that'll work ... right???

[Charlie Pecos]

Rest assured there is an agenda, and it will take some time for us to figure it out if ever. CIA involvement is a given.
Disgusting to say the least that these guys are still up to their same old tired game.
Dear God we need to put an end to this garbage.

[aikya]

Farrakhan tellis it like it is......... and to Obama: 'Who do you think you are?'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OY-_JsNrxiM

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The hearts of the Libyan people will be breaking tonight as they start to suffer the same fate as the Afghans and the Iraqis.

How would we feel if it was our country?

In this video the Iraq Veterans Aganist the War speak about what really happens when we are allegedly 'saving the people':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OY-_JsNrxiM

[aikya]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

!

I think it might be time we stopped calling these wars a US war against such and such a country, or a UK war .....the truth now seems clear...this is an NWO war.

[shybastid]

Actually, France is the biggest exportor/buyer of sweet Lybian crude at 55,000 barrels a day.
http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/x742398434/Oil-jumps-above-100-on-Libya-supply-disruption

They have more to lose at this point,thus,they went in to make sure their financial interests stay protected.

Some of the delays to go into Lybia sooner were:
A) U.S. would'nt put ground soldiers on the field.
B) Have to have good replacement regime in place to make sure "down time" is at a minimal.
C) Make sure Arab nations came out first against kadaffi, so it wasn't perceived as a U.S. or Europen idea within the Arab community.

In the meantime... U.S. satellites and Military have monitored all activity from the sky and within the country to pinpoint strongholds and point the other militarys in the right direction for clean strikes to the best of their combined abilities.

If everyone can protect the oil,and khaddafi is replaced, without him being able to blow up the oil fields..everyone wins right? Minus a couple thousand people for the sake of democracy.

The guy should go,, no question. But no ones doing it for humanitarian reasons I don't believe.


I personally find it deplorable,despicable and disgusting how we sucker people to take their resources.

Business as usual as we bring the world to our requirements and standards.:(

[Calz]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

!

I think it might be time we stopped calling these wars a US war against such and such a country, or a UK war .....the truth now seems clear...this is an NWO war.

All part of "the plan".

Throw in a few more earthquakes ... more and bigger wars ... a pandemic or two ... then here come those pesky bad aliens. :alien:

[Lord Sidious]

Those dogs have turned our nations into crime syndicates and our militaries into standover men.
They can't call me up to serve again.

[mondaze]

ordo ab chao as the romans might have said!

[shybastid]

Amen Lord... Why would I fight to the death for any of these war criminals? For THEIR control and money?

I can't believe it IS this transparent. I really don't feel "special" knowing what we share here.

I'm disgusted it's this pronounced and as usual... right there/here in front of everybody to see.

[Tangri]

And it's not as if there's oil involved, is it? ;)

So, question is, why are we invading? Is it as freedom fighters, or because of the sticky stuff? Hmmm?

Canada has 6 oil drills, France 8 .You can guess now

[johnf]

There are often multiple reasons. some have said they won't sell oil for us dollars anymore, perhaps that is part of it.
But this is a much bigger threat to the control system of the planet I believe.

http://www.puppet99.com/?p=126

[ghostrider]

the way to help is bomb the hell out of any country, just blow them up isn't that holy war? imagine a family sitting in their home having dinner and a #$@ cruise missle blows the entire house/block up. yeeaaaa freedom we're dead. madness I've had enough of the war machine.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

chaos in every nation, a new system will be needed and magically they will have one ready and someone to oversee it. the promise of peace etc...

[ghostrider]

japan needs rebuilding and we're busy blowing things up- madness

[Decibellistics]

and so it begins.......
Circular patterns.

[jcocks]

And it's not as if there's oil involved, is it? ;)

So, question is, why are we invading? Is it as freedom fighters, or because of the sticky stuff? Hmmm?

Canada has 6 oil drills, France 8 .You can guess now

Don't need to. I already know the answer. (It was a rhetorical question)...

I watched a live broadcast of the Libyan oil minister doing a press conference last night before the attacks began.... Was really quite surreal - watching this man talk as if everything was going to go back to normal....

[jcocks]

I'm actually looking forward to the so-called "ufo end-game" beginning, where we are told that the aliens are the big bad guys......

Just something to really jolt people out of their comfort zones and wake them (or at least start to) from their MSM-induced slumber, get them thinking about how things might atcually really be...

Because, for all the wars and all the obvious bull**** we're being fed, the vast majority of people stay asleep.... We may get a bit of action, a large protest or two...but reast assured, they'll go back to sleep soon, like good little boys and girls...

And I'm so *SICK* of it.... It would be nice to see people actually wake up in a big way and *STAY AWAKE*..... Maybe then I could believe that things might start to change (or that the proper environment for change may actually be approaching)......

Sorry, rant over.... But I'm sure many of you would sympathise with what I've said.....

[daledo]

Money is the root of almost all evil. If everyone on earth quit using money at once the system would fall within weeks. Everyone coming together in unity to achieve our individual goals is the key. There is a reason that people like Martin Luther King and Michael Jackson get assassinated. Grow your own food and quit buying utilities and gas. Quit taking prescriptions and get healthy naturally. Quit buying expensive clothing and all of the overpriced crap that is produced today. Help out your neighbors and trade for goods and services. Learn how to live without having to pay to be a resident of earth. Killing the cash flow will put an end to the madness. I can see the rainbow coming out shortly. http://climate.met.psu.edu/data/frost/images/rainbow.jpg= Maybe I should spend the last of my money of gold and silver lol

[tkh123186]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

Is the new model for invading a country to start a revolution of the people there, and then move in to "bring democracy?"

I'm amazed to only be seeing this now, but it makes sense - no one is gonna buy the "They have WMD's" thing anymore!

If there's already a revolution in progress though, we (as in the U.S. and its allies - speaking personally from an Ally point of view) are clearly the good guys! Its obvious that we are truly and honestly helping the people this way! We aren't just bombing the crap out of cities and saying that we are helping the poor oppressed people.

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

Yesterday the US shot 119 Tomahawk missiles into Libya. At a cost of $575,000 Per missile the total cost is $68,425,000... unfortunately the military industrial complex drives society =(

[JoshERTW]

chaos in every nation, a new system will be needed and magically they will have one ready and someone to oversee it. the promise of peace etc...

Yup - the shock doctrine at its finest - If anyone hasn't read the Naomi Klein book by that same name I highly recommend it. Very enlightening at least on the money side of things.

Once the dust settles all of Lybia's assets wil be privatized and sold off to the highest (multinational corporate) bidder.

[K626]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

Is the new model for invading a country to start a revolution of the people there, and then move in to "bring democracy?"

I'm amazed to only be seeing this now, but it makes sense - no one is gonna buy the "They have WMD's" thing anymore!

If there's already a revolution in progress though, we (as in the U.S. and its allies - speaking personally from an Ally point of view) are clearly the good guys! Its obvious that we are truly and honestly helping the people this way! We aren't just bombing the crap out of cities and saying that we are helping the poor oppressed people.

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

These are dry runs for the 'Iranian revolution'...


K

[ghostrider]

k626 you may have hit the nail on the head. We can read to much into things, a prep for the long planned Iran war makes the most sense.

[sygh]

America, get out of Lybia!

[tkh123186]

Anyone think that this guy Mohammed Nabbous could really be a CIA / Mossad asset put in place to induce public opinion toward invading Lybia? I dunno just a thought.... He had been reporting in Lybia with multiple updates but no real evidence of who the rebels / attackers were... then he suddenly was reported as being murdered yesterday in Benghazi. And were there not also reports of Israeli backed mercenaries in Lybia?

http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb/video?clipId=pla_69f41fc7-0a8c-4d21-bcda-c628fa738785&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

[Charlie Pecos]

Money is the root of almost all evil. If everyone on earth quit using money at once the system would fall within weeks. Everyone coming together in unity to achieve our individual goals is the key. There is a reason that people like Martin Luther King and Michael Jackson get assassinated. Grow your own food and quit buying utilities and gas. Quit taking prescriptions and get healthy naturally. Quit buying expensive clothing and all of the overpriced crap that is produced today. Help out your neighbors and trade for goods and services. Learn how to live without having to pay to be a resident of earth. Killing the cash flow will put an end to the madness. I can see the rainbow coming out shortly. http://climate.met.psu.edu/data/frost/images/rainbow.jpg= Maybe I should spend the last of my money of gold and silver lol

:clap2:Bravo daledo, Bravo! Daledo is exactly right folks. Take away the money and the contol program fails. Money is the foundation that supports this house of cards. It is really that easy to end all of this madness, or that hard depending on your point of view. Quit supporting the program and it will fail.

[mondaze]

libya is the sis' s last hoorah...Lawrence of arabia has a lot to answer for

[granny]

Actually, France is the biggest exportor/buyer of sweet Lybian crude at 55,000 barrels a day.
http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/x742398434/Oil-jumps-above-100-on-Libya-supply-disruption

They have more to lose at this point,thus,they went in to make sure their financial interests stay protected.

Some of the delays to go into Lybia sooner were:
A) U.S. would'nt put ground soldiers on the field.
B) Have to have good replacement regime in place to make sure "down time" is at a minimal.
C) Make sure Arab nations came out first against kadaffi, so it wasn't perceived as a U.S. or Europen idea within the Arab community.

In the meantime... U.S. satellites and Military have monitored all activity from the sky and within the country to pinpoint strongholds and point the other militarys in the right direction for clean strikes to the best of their combined abilities.

If everyone can protect the oil,and khaddafi is replaced, without him being able to blow up the oil fields..everyone wins right? Minus a couple thousand people for the sake of democracy.

The guy should go,, no question. But no ones doing it for humanitarian reasons I don't believe.


I personally find it deplorable,despicable and disgusting how we sucker people to take their resources.

Business as usual as we bring the world to our requirements and standards.:(
Yes ... it is interesting we didn't jump in to bomb Egypt ... oh, no oil. I see.

[Lefty Dave]

OK - so the U.S. and allies are now starting air strikes in Lybia (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/19/libya-bombing.html)

Is the new model for invading a country to start a revolution of the people there, and then move in to "bring democracy?"

I'm amazed to only be seeing this now, but it makes sense - no one is gonna buy the "They have WMD's" thing anymore!

If there's already a revolution in progress though, we (as in the U.S. and its allies - speaking personally from an Ally point of view) are clearly the good guys! Its obvious that we are truly and honestly helping the people this way! We aren't just bombing the crap out of cities and saying that we are helping the poor oppressed people.

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

Certainly are acting like THERE IS NO TOMORROW ...

[eaglespirit]

23 March 2011 Last updated at 11:00 ET

Gaddafi's air force 'defeated'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12837330

[celestia]

The Libyan people are making their own Revolution to bring their pride and honour back, they don't need any poisonous "help" in that! One thing is sure this foreign intervention is going to cause the battle to last longer and would cause further chaos in Libya, besides, Libyan people do consider such intervention as a humiliation.
I think that one of the issues of the secret agenda behind this is actually to divert attention from the main concerns! most important of these is... Palestine!
But the World haven't yet said it's last word.

[Lord Sidious]

The Libyan people are making their own Revolution to bring their pride and honour back, they don't need any poisonous "help" in that! One thing is sure this foreign intervention is going to cause the battle to last longer and would cause further chaos in Libya, besides, Libyan people do consider such intervention as a humiliation.
I think that one of the issues of the secret agenda behind this is actually to divert attention from the main concerns! most important of these is... Palestine!
But the World haven't yet said it's last word.

I am not convinced that the Libyans are actually rebelling themselves, without outside help.
Why would the western powers suddenly care about Arabs that they didn't care about last month?
And you know, I don't have to tell you, they have no love for your peoples, only what they can get from them.
As for Felestin, well, what can I say?
I have a lot of affection for Arabs and their culture. I especially love the traditional music, the Oud is my favourite instrument from the middle east.
Don't even mention the food, I will be here for a week.

[modwiz]

The Libyan people are making their own Revolution to bring their pride and honour back, they don't need any poisonous "help" in that! One thing is sure this foreign intervention is going to cause the battle to last longer and would cause further chaos in Libya, besides, Libyan people do consider such intervention as a humiliation.
I think that one of the issues of the secret agenda behind this is actually to divert attention from the main concerns! most important of these is... Palestine!
But the World haven't yet said it's last word.

I am not convinced that the Libyans are actually rebelling themselves, without outside help.
Why would the western powers suddenly care about Arabs that they didn't care about last month?
And you know, I don't have to tell you, they have no love for your peoples, only what they can get from them.
As for Felestin, well, what can I say?
I have a lot of affection for Arabs and their culture. I especially love the traditional music, the Oud is my favourite instrument from the middle east.
Don't even mention the food, I will be here for a week.

I'm with you about doubting the "source" of the rebellion.

Doesn't smell like Arab cooking to me.

The stench of the Red Shield is all over this.

[tkh123186]

The Libyan people are making their own Revolution to bring their pride and honour back, they don't need any poisonous "help" in that! One thing is sure this foreign intervention is going to cause the battle to last longer and would cause further chaos in Libya, besides, Libyan people do consider such intervention as a humiliation.
I think that one of the issues of the secret agenda behind this is actually to divert attention from the main concerns! most important of these is... Palestine!
But the World haven't yet said it's last word.

I am not convinced that the Libyans are actually rebelling themselves, without outside help.
Why would the western powers suddenly care about Arabs that they didn't care about last month?
And you know, I don't have to tell you, they have no love for your peoples, only what they can get from them.
As for Felestin, well, what can I say?
I have a lot of affection for Arabs and their culture. I especially love the traditional music, the Oud is my favourite instrument from the middle east.
Don't even mention the food, I will be here for a week.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=212003

This article pretty much says it all... Al Qaeda backs the Libyan revolt and who else backs it... the US / Israeli Zionist regime! Were not a bunch of humanitarians, if we were we would be out there helping Bahrain and Yemen but you don't see them doing anything about there atrocities. We have begun World War 3 by attacking Libya. Now Gaza was hit from Israel and now there was a bombing in Israel... as Martin Lawrence would say "**** just got real!"

[Calz]

Actually, France is the biggest exportor/buyer of sweet Lybian crude at 55,000 barrels a day.
http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/x742398434/Oil-jumps-above-100-on-Libya-supply-disruption

They have more to lose at this point,thus,they went in to make sure their financial interests stay protected.

Some of the delays to go into Lybia sooner were:
A) U.S. would'nt put ground soldiers on the field.
B) Have to have good replacement regime in place to make sure "down time" is at a minimal.
C) Make sure Arab nations came out first against kadaffi, so it wasn't perceived as a U.S. or Europen idea within the Arab community.

In the meantime... U.S. satellites and Military have monitored all activity from the sky and within the country to pinpoint strongholds and point the other militarys in the right direction for clean strikes to the best of their combined abilities.

If everyone can protect the oil,and khaddafi is replaced, without him being able to blow up the oil fields..everyone wins right? Minus a couple thousand people for the sake of democracy.

The guy should go,, no question. But no ones doing it for humanitarian reasons I don't believe.


I personally find it deplorable,despicable and disgusting how we sucker people to take their resources.

Business as usual as we bring the world to our requirements and standards.:(
Yes ... it is interesting we didn't jump in to bomb Egypt ... oh, no oil. I see.


Thanks granny.

Follow the money has been the model for a long time (and he allegedly has a big pile of gold as well).

Speculation on my part here ... but I think *this* time it might be different. Likely multiple motives envolved but I think this works into the "building into ww3" plan where in arab world is enflamed to go after Israel again.

Theory goes other bigger players are drawn in and they get their global war with armageddon theme.

Oil goes to ... what ... $300 a barrel and the global pigs will be in HOG HEAVEN.

Hamas is lobbing explosives into Israeli cities and there is talk of escalated action/reaction on that front as well.

[tkh123186]

Actually, France is the biggest exportor/buyer of sweet Lybian crude at 55,000 barrels a day.
http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/x742398434/Oil-jumps-above-100-on-Libya-supply-disruption

They have more to lose at this point,thus,they went in to make sure their financial interests stay protected.

Some of the delays to go into Lybia sooner were:
A) U.S. would'nt put ground soldiers on the field.
B) Have to have good replacement regime in place to make sure "down time" is at a minimal.
C) Make sure Arab nations came out first against kadaffi, so it wasn't perceived as a U.S. or Europen idea within the Arab community.

In the meantime... U.S. satellites and Military have monitored all activity from the sky and within the country to pinpoint strongholds and point the other militarys in the right direction for clean strikes to the best of their combined abilities.

If everyone can protect the oil,and khaddafi is replaced, without him being able to blow up the oil fields..everyone wins right? Minus a couple thousand people for the sake of democracy.

The guy should go,, no question. But no ones doing it for humanitarian reasons I don't believe.


I personally find it deplorable,despicable and disgusting how we sucker people to take their resources.

Business as usual as we bring the world to our requirements and standards.:(
Yes ... it is interesting we didn't jump in to bomb Egypt ... oh, no oil. I see.


Thanks granny.

Follow the money has been the model for a long time (and he allegedly has a big pile of gold as well).

Speculation on my part here ... but I think *this* time it might be different. Likely multiple motives envolved but I think this works into the "building into ww3" plan where in arab world is enflamed to go after Israel again.

Theory goes other bigger players are drawn in and they get their global war with armageddon theme.

Oil goes to ... what ... $300 a barrel and the global pigs will be in HOG HEAVEN.

Hamas is lobbing explosives into Israeli cities and there is talk of escalated action/reaction on that front as well.

Calz that is exactly whats happening, its like a bully instigating a fight so that you have no choice but to strike first which will give them all the public opinion necessary to go and for lack of a better term **** there world up. Dark times are ahead but don't be fearful, love & light will guide us to a better future.

[Carmody]

This whole thing is actually a bit more complicated than just oil. far from simple.

It's about water. It's about irrigation.

It's about Libya poised to become the breadbasket for the middle east and Africa.

THAT is what the NWO wanted (and still want) to be dead-dead-dead.

They waited until the project is complete (finished September 2010) ... THEN move in and take over. It's about squeezing resources and killing people.

But with water.

Note the Bush family buying that 90,000 acre ranch over the world's largest fresh water aquifer in South America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Manmade_River

[tkh123186]

Yeah, water is definitely involved here for sure. In the end humanity will prevail over the oppression of these evil elites, I know this with all my heart.

[Carmody]

This whole thing is actually a bit more complicated than just oil. far from simple.

It's about water. It's about irrigation.

It's about Libya poised to become the breadbasket for the middle east and Africa.

THAT is what the NWO wanted (and still want) to be dead-dead-dead.

They waited until the project is complete (finished September 2010) ... THEN move in and take over. It's about squeezing resources and killing people.

But with water.

Note the Bush family buying that 90,000 acre ranch over the world's largest fresh water aquifer in South America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Manmade_River

The total cost of the project is projected at more than US$25 billion. Libya claims to have completed the work to date without the financial support of major countries or loans from world banks.


They (Libyans) also... totally own this project with no interference or help from any world bank or NWO banking systems/cartel. This is the irritating part. No financial grab, no help, no control, no bankers.

Why the nerve of that Damn Qaddafi. To actually try and feed Africa and the Middle East. To work tirelessly for over 25 years and actually get to the point.... where it can actually be done.

That's why they stomped on him.

I'm of the opinion that it has almost zero to do with oil and everything about controlling that water.

The ability/desire to have bases there and block the Mediterranean is just an extra bonus.

Recall the NWO plan is about starving them out through Goldman Sachs type commodity (food) speculation to drive prices up.. to destroy crops through GMO and similar and weather issues, ruined soils (gulf spill) etc. To destroy the 'unwanted' (for them, that is) parts of the world through starvation.

how well and easily could food crops made in Libya.. be transported to the Middle east and Africa? The answer is very, very easily. As well as being in a very good zone for high growth factors, and low labor costs.


Find the face, names, and hands that are specifically trying to create and run this attack on Libya.... and you will find the face, shape, name and enemy that lies within the NWO.

If Libya survives as being essentially unaltered...... then their plan, of over 100 years in the making, that will potentially fail.

So look for them to try so damn hard...... that their exact faces and names are exposed.

[jackovesk]

Very sneaky PTB, you almost got us!

That's Why they are now known as the TPTW!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

Bloody Pack of Criminals!

[iceni tribe]

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/pilotD1.jpg

[Davidallany]

TPTB wants Africa. It's beyond Oil.

[shybastid]

I did not mean oil as a resource as the only way to rob a Nation or US here at Avalon.. I meant all resources collectively including spirit for NWO.

http://blogs.usd.edu/anai/entry/why_is_bush_jr_buying
Water in Lybia seems to have a profound effect in the region for future developement if it's not radio active. Might be bigger then oil.
Kaddafi HAS spent that money to gain control..
. Large dollar amounts have been invested.
I don't know who is the good guy or the bad guy currently.(Al Quida,New Regime,CIA all of them or none of them)

I know I will be lied to,about any of it for the bigger picture of control.

But... never mind the source...
http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/gadaffi%E2%80%99s-legacy-the-great-man-made-river/

For what gain? :yell:

To help, or control the living in the region?

I really don't know.

I KNOW the motive's of ALL and ANY of this Bul**s**it is not to help or protect my friends here on Avalon.

OK...Maybe Charles... I KID:p

2012 is no longer a date.. It's an Era..plus or minus 2 years... We're in it.

:jaw: