MSNBC cut off their Reporter when he begins to report the Civilian Deaths in Libya.

[tkh123186]

MSNBC cut off their Reporter when he begins to report the Civilian Deaths in Libya due to US air strikes? (@3:00)

They cut his satellite feed with a quickness!

http://www.thelibertyunderground.net/2011/03/did-msnbc-cut-off-their-reporter-when.html

[Nairnia]

How do you know "they" cut it? You dont. Isnt it perhaps possible that the sat link went down?

[Teakai]

It seemed to end quite naturally.

Edit to add:

Oops, I only watched the last few minutes (pushed for time) where a woman reporter was speaking.
Having watched the relevant part after someone mentioned a 'he', yes, I do think it was suspiciously cut.

(I realise now that this was all set out in the introductory post, but school mornings here are crazy hectic)

[Ahkenaten]

Naturally no one running Operation Odyssey Dawn wants emphasis to be on civilian casualties when supposedly the primary mission of this operation is to SAVE INNOCENT CIVILIANS BEING TREATED BRUTALLY BY THEIR LEADER!! (hmm.....doesn't this sound a little familiar?! It sure rings a bell for me. ) Next we'll be hearing about the rape rooms. Anyway - this "coincidental" drop of the live feed is a bit too synchronistic. Can't have any contradictions in the official narrative, i.e. "WE ARE ONLY KILLING THEM TO PROTECT THEM"- - OOPS, wait - didn't Barak Obama himself demand that Ghidafi step down immediately!

Can't let the levels of cognitive dissonance get too high - it could cause some unintended blow-back.

[K626]

MSNBC cut off their Reporter when he begins to report the Civilian Deaths in Libya due to US air strikes? (@3:00)

They cut his satellite feed with a quickness!

http://www.thelibertyunderground.net/2011/03/did-msnbc-cut-off-their-reporter-when.html

Looks like he was cut to me...Civ casualties....(plug pulled)..

[ghostrider]

yep sounded like they cut the feed to me. civilian casualties could be 30 or 40 thers no way to tell umm.... blank oops looks like we lost the feed

[Ahkenaten]

Let's not forget what war in the Middle East is about - it is about OIL (control of the energy paradigm)............and......well, just read between the lines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRhDzpJV2TM&NR=1&feature=fvwp

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And let's not forget the BLING


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxVWckPZX0A&feature=fvwrel

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and of course though they are keeping a very low profile lately....................


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBP9QTEdg1Y

[Harley]

That was so obvious it's laughable.

This whole thing is a farce. The powers have created this event and are simply using the media to divert the publics attention from more-serious matters.

It is what's known as WAG THE DOG.

For those of you who may not know:


To 'wag the dog' means to purposely divert attention from what would otherwise be of greater importance, to something else of lesser significance. By doing so, the lesser-significant event is catapulted into the limelight, drowning proper attention to what was originally the more important issue.
The expression comes from the saying that 'a dog is smarter than its tail', but if the tail were smarter, then the tail would 'wag the dog'. The expression 'wag the dog' was elaborately used as theme of the movie. 'Wag the Dog', a 1997 film starring Robert de Niro and Dustin Hoffman, produced and directed by Barry Levinson.
Source (http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/wag+the+dog.html)

I don't mean to infer that the events that are being reported are not real. But what I AM inferring is that the entire thing was by design with the goal of diverting the world's attention from far more serious REAL matters.

It's been done many times in the past and yet people STILL buy it. Poor people.

There is a storm coming.

[Ahkenaten]

Right Harley and lest I point out the obvious to quote someone who knows this tactic very well "never let a good crisis go to waste!"

[bennycog]

no doubt harley
I think everyone of us here can see that there certainly is a carrot being dangled infront of the mainstream news viewing nations and people.
The updates out of japan have slowed down to a snails pace now when i am sure there is much more going on there.
There is a new oil leak or more oil being spotted anyway in the gulf.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16757-Another-new-Oil-spill-in-the-Gulf
Are there uprisings going on right now somewhere else in the world they do not want us to know about, while they dangle this new theatre scene infront of our eyes. The things happening lately are just that, theatre.. and one scene is moving onto the next at a ridiculous rate right now.

[edina]

I don't mean to infer that the events that are being reported are not real. But what I AM inferring is that the entire thing was by design with the goal of diverting the world's attention from far more serious REAL matters.


Harley, do you have any ideas in mind of what you think the Libya story was trying to divert attention away from? I'd love to hear you're thinking on this.

BTW, hope all is going well your way, after everything that happened in your neck of the woods, in January. The recovery rate of these natural disasters, floods, landslides, ect..., is another hidden story that is simply not getting addressed anywhere that I can see.

Big smiles to you, and the way your mind works, :biggrin:

[JoshERTW]

[QUOTE=Harley Hawkins;180167]

I don't mean to infer that the events that are being reported are not real. But what I AM inferring is that the entire thing was by design with the goal of diverting the world's attention from far more serious REAL matters.


Perhaps they want to divert attention from the expanding planet? From the people asking for new sources of energy? The economy perhaps - oil is going up in price like mad and so is food? The revolutions going on in other countries? (The Saudi's are killing protesters in Bahrain but the UN is not taking out their defenses)

Maybe they figured with the spread of these revolutions, they had better get involved in one of them and give people a new war to talk about instead of "wow there sure are a lot of revolutions going on in the world! Let's get out there and try it out for ourselves!"

[Harley]

Hi Edina,





I don't mean to infer that the events that are being reported are not real. But what I AM inferring is that the entire thing was by design with the goal of diverting the world's attention from far more serious REAL matters.


Harley, do you have any ideas in mind of what you think the Libya story was trying to divert attention away from? I'd love to hear you're thinking on this.

I'm unable to say much today but I wanted to acknowledge you.

For now see what Benny said. He and Ack and others are on the right track.


no doubt harley
I think everyone of us here can see that there certainly is a carrot being dangled infront of the mainstream news viewing nations and people.
The updates out of japan have slowed down to a snails pace now when i am sure there is much more going on there.
There is a new oil leak or more oil being spotted anyway in the gulf.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16757-Another-new-Oil-spill-in-the-Gulf
Are there uprisings going on right now somewhere else in the world they do not want us to know about, while they dangle this new theatre scene infront of our eyes. The things happening lately are just that, theatre.. and one scene is moving onto the next at a ridiculous rate right now.

Thanks,

Harley



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[Nanoo Nanoo]

Here is some more info from RT News


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihA0bbN4C-8

[Mystique]

This is an important video laying out what is going on with the recent disasters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WxmeOqYtB0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WxmeOqYtB0

[Ahkenaten]

A POSSIBLE FRAME FOR CURRENT EVENTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST (subject to continual revision and updates)

I am told the reporter who was cut off yesterday was very scripted and specifically stated tonight that there were NO CIVILIAN CASUALTIES in the attack on Libya. However, the news has reported that over 150 cruise missiles have been fired on Libya - at about $1 million each, that is a lot of hardware with no casualties. US cruise missiles are mfg. by, I believe, Boeing. GE provides the guidance systems. Perhaps the smart missiles have become so intelligent that they can distinguish civilians (are they "terrorists"?) from Ghadafi regulars (are THEY "terrorists?") GE, coincidentally, also mfg. the smart nuke plants in Japan that failed.

Meantime there seems to be considerable confusion about the mission of this military action that was so hastily executed and the missing metrics whereby "success" or failure can be measured. The US Commander of the mission, a fellow by the name of "HAM" - (NOT an auspicious name in this instance, unless of course he is returning after several thousand years to reclaim his Biblical patrimony!) has emphatically stated that the mission is to protect innocent civilians not to take out Ghadafi, however almost simultaneously it was reported that a cruise missile was lobbed at Ghadafi's Headquarters yesterday, probably yet another coincidence given the quality and accuracy of the GE guidance systems and products. To compound the confused narrative, exacerbating the cognitive dissonance, whereas Obama had pronounced only last week that Ghadafi should step down - the official story out of Washington continues to be that this is a limited mission with the purpose of protecting civilians and NOT decapitation of the Libyan government, however to the perplexity of anyone able to stomach the verbal mosh-pit emanating from the babble box today, Obama sonorously repeated his assertion from Chile that the US "prefers that Ghadafi step down." Confusion apparently also reigns in the "coalition of the willing II" concerning passing the baton of operational leadership.......US officials on the one hand insisting that the transfer of leadership must occur "in days" while officials from France (Libya is a former French territory) have stated that only the US has the logistical and tactical capability to lead a mission like this one. :frusty: Other members of the coalition of the willing II have expressed luke-warm support for the mission: a few have ponied up a few F-18's and personnel and the Arab League in a scurrilous about-face having supported the attack now laments civilian casualties which the US and corporate media absolutely insist have not occurred. NOTE: We must disclose that MSNBC is partly owned by GE which provides the smart guidance systems for the Cruise Missiles and note that the "smart" software has been upgraded to distinguish between civilians and Ghadafi operatives in plain clothing. There is no way to tell for sure where the Cruise Missiles came from however because France, the UK and even China and other countries manufacture them. At $1 million dollars a pop maybe that explains Russia and China abstaining from voting against the resolution at the UN Security Council? These are hard times.

Israel has remained oddly silent.

But amidst this complex strange story the most profound mystery of all rivaling the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World vs Ali Ba Ba and the Forty Thieves, is the persistent entanglement of modern technology and geopolitics with the Occult, Ancient History, and Religion in the Middle East:

*TIMING AND STRANGE ABSENCE OF LEGAL DUE PROCESS - Why after considerable ambivalence on undertaking a mission like this for weeks the sudden 180-degree shift to attack while coincidentally Commander in Chief Obama was out of the US in Brazil? Why was the directive given in a Presidential Memo without any conferral with Congress? Even George W. Bush saw that he needed the cover of a pretense of deference to the Constitution? What was the incredible rush to attack on this particular date? WHO demanded that this be done? WHO applied pressure on Barak Obama? WHAT leverage did whoever applied pressure have over the US Government? Meanwhile - no one was home in Washington, D.C.: Nancy Pelosi was in a hospital in Italy? No one knows where Harry Reid was - in Vegas? What about Biden? What about Boner, I mean Boehner? Hilary was in Paris with Skorzeny. I mean they decide to go to war but no one is in the CEO's office? More importantly where the hell is Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush I and Bush II??!! This was all done by Skype, texting and e-mail? Add to that the urgency that the mission be undertaken precisely on March 19-20, coinciding precisely with the Attack on Iraq in Iraq misadventure II? Though this may not be related, this coincided with the arrival of radioactive fall-out in California from GE power plants in Japan containing Israeli-manufactured security systems, one containing plutonium than only recently had been put there, as well as the appearance of tornadoes resembling whirling dervishes (Djins maybe?!) in the area.

*OCCULTIC OR RITUALISTIC MEANING? What's up with the unusual name for the mission, Odyssey Dawn......("Odyssey" - meaning I suppose that it is a Mediterranean adventure, i.e. missiles launched from boats floating in that sea where Odysseus adventured searching for the Golden Fleece - and "Dawn" well we need to check with Jordan Maxwell! Errrgh....darned sun-worshippers again!) The occultic meanings of this name and date is commemorated by some unusual groups, including the Illuminati who according to David Icke, consider the day to be a "day of sacrifice," and the Jews who commemorate the date as the Holy Holiday Purim, 13 Adar (this year March 20) when the Jews celebrate the salvation of their people from the plot in ancient Persia of "HAMAN" (oops! maybe this means something - note that, coincidentally "HAM" is the name of the US commander of operation Odyssey Dawn?! Probably another coincidence) "to destroy, kill, and annihilate all the Jews young and old, infants and women in a single day." The fast of Purim is to begin at Dawn and it not only celebrates the prevention of the slaughter of the Jews but their victory and slaughter of their enemies in the court of Persian King Ahasuerus. Remember Libya is being cast as an actor and interest of Iran in the region.

Footnote #1.) CONCERNING THE RITUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF DATES - The Biblical story commemorated by Purim is based on the story of lovely Esther who found favor in PERSIAN (Note Persia is modern day IRAN!) King Ahasuerus' eyes and became the new Queen (notwithstanding that the King already had a wife but these people all had multiple wives) however she kept her Jewish heritage to herself and did not divulge her nationality to the King. In the meantime, Esther's cousin Mordechai, the leader of the Jews, proudly refused to bow before Haman, the new Prime Minister. Incensed at this insult, Haman got the King to issue an order for the execution of the Jews on the 13th. of Adar in revenge. (March 20) Hearing of this Esther arranged a dinner at which Haman and the King were present whereupon she revealed her heritage to the King. For his treachery against the King's wife Esther Haman was ordered hanged and Mordechai was thereby appointed Prime Minister in his stead.

OMG! As an aside, I hope the guy named HAM who is leading the US contingent of the Coalition of the Willing II isn't a reincarnation of HAMAN! OMG! If he is, then that puts a whole other twist on this story! WHAT IF HE WANTS TO AVENGE HIS DEATH AT THE HANDS OF MORDECAI?! I can't imagine what the international implications of THIS would be!!

Anyway, to conclude our exposition on ancient history possibly related to certain dates - a new decree was issued by the King granting the Jews the right to defend themselves against their enemies. On the 13th. of Adar (March 20) the Jews mobilized and killed their enemies and on March 21, they celebrated and rested.

Footnote #2.) CONCERNING THE URGENT AND CONTINUING NEED TO READJUST GEOPOLITICS AND NATIONAL BOUNDARIES TO CONFORM WITH ANCIENT BIBLICAL DIRECTIVES AND INSTRUCTIONS, TEXTUAL AND LINEAGE CONFUSION NOTWITHSTANDING... The HAM subscript if only because of the snychronicity of names - or perhaps this qualifies as a Baader Meinhof event - deserves some exposition - in perhaps yet another Biblical twist to our larger current events plot relating to lands in the Middle East and who is entitled to control them - and you will have to bear with me here because this is an EXTREMELY DIFFICULT SUBJECT TO FOLLOW AS YOU WILL SHORTLY SEE - Ham was the son of the famous Biblical Patriarch Noah. According to the Old Testament Ham saw his drunken father, Noah, "naked" so he was therefor considered to have dishonored his Father. As punishment for that Noah issued the awful "Curse of HAM" wherein the irate patriarch cursed Canaan. Canaan being Ham's son's name - so I guess this meant Noah cursed Ham and his progeny and all of his descendants. He also cursed Ham's land but he blessed the lands and progeny of his other sons Shem and Japeth who had not seen their father naked. Noah stated that "Canaan should forthwith be the servants of Shem and Japeth." (i.e. the descendants of Ham should SERVE the descendants of Shem and Japeth.) Although Talmudic scholars are still in disagreement as to precisely what crime Ham had committed for Noah to level a curse of this import - the equivalent of a Perpetual Cruise Missile - one thing is clear and that is that the curse also had to do with Israel's conquest of Canaan. In particular according to the Book of Jubilees, the curse relates to Canaan's (be patient, remember that Canaan was Ham's son) steadfast refusal to join his elder brothers in Ham's allotment of land beyond the Nile (it is not clear though whether this land was to the East or West of the Nile back then, perhaps the land Ham was supposed to occupy was to the West near modern day Libya?!) but instead Ham's obstreperous descendants went and squatted within the inheritance of Shem, on the Eastern Shore of the Mediterranean, in the lands later to be promised to Abraham by God. THIS MAY BE THE POINT AT WHICH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE FACE TODAY BEGAN - THE "SQUATTING" IN LANDS LATER TO BE DESIGNATED TO ABRAHAM, BY THE DESCENDANTS OF HAM! BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PEOPLE OF HAM ARE RELATED TO THE PEOPLE OF SHEM AND JAPETH AND ARE BLOOD RELATIVES AS ALL DESCENDED FROM NOAH. AND NOAH SUPPOSEDLY LIVED AS LONG AS ABOUT 12,000 years AGO!! This land included all modern day Israel and environs stretching from the Tigress and the Euphrates to the Mediterranean?! Incidentally, to confuse matters related to geography, who lived where when, and whose land "belongs" to whom - the Bible refers to Egypt as the "land of Ham," whereas we are told Ham's allotment was "beyond the Nile." Now folks this is where it really gets complicated - the names of Ham's other children refer to lands that were under the influence of Egypt at that time, i.e. Canaan, Kush, Phut - but perhaps as we learned earlier, they were merely squatters for some time PRIOR to Abraham being given the land by God (apparently God is not prohibited from issuing an ex-post facto law) and so as squatters their names became incorrectly associated with these lands. To confuse matters even further making it difficult to understand how Noah's curse could possibly be implemented and enforced today and against and/or by whom, and where by the US funded with US tax-payor's money - Canaan in ancient Egypt referred to the area presently encompassing modern day Israel, Palestinian Territories, Lebanon and the Western part of Syria. So I guess strictly geographically, since it is not entirely clear where Shem and Japeth and their descendants lived back then (possibly IRAQ?) it is not at all clear WHO should be serving whom NOW? :hail: One alternative interpretation of all this, though undoubtedly scholars and some residents of the region would disagree, is that the descendants of HAM, i.e. those now dwelling in the area now known as Egypt - even if they are squatters, including CANAAN which is modern day Israel and surrounding areas - based on Noah's curse - are to serve the children of Shem and Japeth - that is the people of IRAQ!! :hail: After all, Zechariah Sitchen himself said that the people of the SHEM were the Sumerians occupying the land which is now Iraq! Another option would be that if HAM reincarnated is now reappearing after an absence of thousands of years to reclaim his patrimony in Libya, then the people of Ham (the Libyans?) and the others that we already have established beyond a doubt as being descendants of, or at least occupiers of the land of descendants of Ham - that is the people of the entire area including modern day Israel, should immediately put themselves entirely at the service of the people of Iraq - or the people of Iraq, Italy and northern Spain, because some anthropologists and historians have said that the ancient Sumerians dispersed after their Empire fell, departing to Italy and to Northern Spain. Ultimately, strictly from a Biblical point of view of course, and thus subject to both interpretation and litigation not to mention perpetual warfare, perhaps that means that modern day residents of most of the entire Middle East should correctly be serving the descendants of the people of SHEM and JAPETH, that is the residents of Iraq, Italy and Northern Spain! :hail:

CONCLUSION (subject to continual revision)

Phew! I guess Noah's curse has yet to be accurately fulfilled! But then again, Noah never clarified whether his curse was to be applied administratively, ideologically, religiously, economically, historically, racially, retroactively or proactively! That was left for interpretation.

We need a good lawyer!

Obviously whenever there is ever the slightest doubt concerning any important matters bearing on who owns what, who serves who in the Middle East , we must dispense with all other considerations and quickly pivot to the military option! Obviously talking about these matters let alone resolving them diplomatically, is hopeless! It is too complex! The most brilliant scholars have puzzled over this for thousands of years without ever untangling this paradoxical situation! ENOUGH ALREADY! What is needed is the blinding clarity of absolute destruction! Which leads me to the amazing coincidence of the shared and conveniently dovetailing apocalyptic traditions in the region, but that is a story, hopefully, for another day!

Permit me to digress on an important sub-topic as I attempt to conclude my analysis: it is clear that the land surrounding New York City should immediately be returned to the Iroquois from whom it was stolen for a handful of glass beads in the 1500's and that all military force available, including nuclear weapons, should be used to support this Biblically logical and just action! :heh:

THE CONTINUING MYSTERY OF HAM

WHY, WHY ON EARTH IS HAM COMMANDING THE COALITION OF THE WILLING!!?? WHY DID HE SHOW UP OFF THE COAST OF LIBYA NOW?! Doesn't he know that he was cursed by Noah and he must serve the descendants of Shem and Japeth , i.e. the people of Iraq, Itay and Northern Spain?! :hail: - or maybe he is just belatedly, after thousands of years, finally laying claim to Libya, the god-forsaken area Noah originally assigned to him and he is tired of squatting over in Egypt for so long!! Everyone agrees that one thing is certain from the Bible, Noah never specified that Moamar Ghadafi was entitled to Libya whatsoever! :madgrin:

END GAME?

Bottom line WTF does any of this have to do with the people of the United States!! Why has fate decreed that it is the inexorable fate of 300,000,000 people living in North America to insure that Biblical prophesies, no matter how murky and irrresolvable, must be fulfilled NOW!!

As you can easily see our esteemed and worthy policy makers, leaders and military experts are having great difficulty implementing and enforcing Noah's wishes at this juncture, though to be fair Lord knows they have tried at enormous cost for many years! AND WE HAVE PAID AND PAID! Divine guidance - and even intervention (where is an ALIEN ATTACK when we really need it!!) would be very much appreciated at this time because events on the ground, so to speak, have clearly overtaken us!

The various Canaanite nations of the bronze age are mentioned in the Bible, Mesopotamian and Egyptian texts. Extensive intermarriage between clans was and still is common, as was migration into and out of the region. These people have worshiped a variety of gods dwelling in the area and still do. And so, I hear, do the people who attend the Bohemian Grove each year!

March 20, 2011 was also a "Super" full moon, a once in 18-year event, occurring, I repeat - on the exact same date as the attack on Iraq March 20, 2003, homeland of ancient Babylon. Of possible significance is the fact that Nebuchadnazzar II captured the Jews and destroyed the Temple in 587 BC taking most of the people into slavery in Babylon. The crescent moon has certain historic and religious significance for Muslims - who knows what the Full Moon means in this regard?

Bringing us back to the story" MSNBC Cut Off Their Reporter when......"

Now given the above, isn't the attack on Libya on this specific date a little odd?

[Ahkenaten]

I am sorry for my post #16. I was possessed by a Spirit during the night and it is automatic writing.

[Circe]

Invasion of Libya on the Same Day as the Invasion of Iraq: The Vernal Equinox

The war on Iraq was declared on March 19th 2003.

Western forces attacked Libya on March 20th 2011.

Is there an occult reason behind this? Both invasions occurred on the eve of the Vernal Equinox – a date that was – and still is – extremely significant throughout History. It is the date of the Sun’s resurrection and was often celebrated with a blood sacrifice to “impregnate the Earth”.


“When the vernal equinox no longer occurred in the sign of Taurus, the Sun God incarnated in the constellation of Aries and the ram then became the vehicle of the solar power. Thus the sun rising in the sign of the Celestial Lamb triumphs over the symbolic serpent of darkness. The blood of the lamb is the solar life pouring into the world through the sign of Aries.”
- Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages


“It (the Vernal Equinox) was particularly the sacrifice des primeurs, the first fruits of the fields, the first vegetables, the first lambs and other young animals and so on. And the first-born son, Christ the Son of God, is also sacrificed at the time of the vernal equinox. This idea of youth being sacrificed was called in Rome the ver sacrum, the sacred spring.”
- Carl Jung, Notes on the Seminar Given in 1930-1934 Volume 1


“The object of this paper was to show that human sacrifice, which prevailed extensively in early times, was a custom connected especially with the Vernal Equinox, and that the offerings were made to appease a mythical dragon which made its demand at that time. The Dragon of mythology is identified and defined, and shown in what sense he opened his jaws at the spring season of the year.

In Egypt they had been abolished at an early period; but in Greece we have historical instances.”
- George St. Clair, Dragon Sacrifices at the Vernal Equinox

According to some researchers, in Illuminati lore, the Spring Equinox is considered a Minor Sabbath but still requires human sacrifice. March 21-22 is dedicated Goddess Ostara (Ishtar, also spelled, “Eostre”), for whom “Easter” is named. March 21 is one of the Illuminati’s Human Sacrifice Night. Ishtar was the Babylonian goddess of fertility, love and war. Her name derives from the words for “Dawn”.

Is it a coincidence that the name of the military operation in Libya is “Operation Odyssey Dawn”? Are we looking at another mega-ritual?


source: http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/invasion-of-libya-on-the-same-day-as-the-invasion-of-iraq-the-vernal-equinox/

Make of the above what you will
Circe

[ceetee9]

So, to sum up from your dissertation--if I may be so bold, we should all stop dwelling on the past, forsake all religions that serves only to divide us and keep TPTB firmly in control, flush all government leaders who serve only their puppet-masters, learn to live in peace and harmony, and take up golf or needlepoint. Is that about it? :peace:

[Ahkenaten]

ceetee9 you are completely missing my point - I was using satire and humor to discuss the complexities underpinning current events a serious subject indeed, complexities that most people do not understand and which others are reluctant to openly acknowledge. These are but a few of the obstacles to achieving lasting peace in the region. Unless these elements are acknowleged and somewhat understood there is no hope of advancing. We should leave the past behind in my opinion, all of us, and together we should use enlightened thinking and tactics to resolve current problems, not brutal war and repitition of old worn-out themes.

I think YOU should stick to "golf" and "needlepoint" if you fail to grasp the import of current events. Those certainly are not my interests.