str8thinker
23rd March 2011, 00:17
The book Power vs. Force by David Hawkins has appeared in several posts here at PA, notably in those by Greybeard (Chris). Here are some:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10620-EVOLUTION-A-clarifying-post-on-behalf-of-Charles&p=91671&viewfull=1#post91671
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material&p=125731&viewfull=1#post125731
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?631-At-the-Vatican-Up-Against-the-World&p=156264&viewfull=1#post156264
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14867-The-Akashic-Records-Inner-Earth-and-your-Book-of-Life&p=158086&viewfull=1#post158086
Reviewer Mary-Sue Haliburton in 2006 made an interesting observation:
CAVEAT #1: Not Exclusive or Original
The late Ian Xel Lundgold had spent thousands of dollars to study the training courses of Scientology, and disclosed that their teachings are virtually the same as the system Hawkins is presenting here. This anecdote came in an email from an author who is known online as Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone. He writes regularly on the subject of how focussed human consciousness can be used to affect the health of planet and the unfolding of events. (For a sample of his writing, see his hope-inspiring recent piece "The United States of a Miracle" [2]).
That leaves unanswered the question of whether Hawkins learned about this hierarchy of values from Scientology, or whether he arrived at a similar system through a process of independent discovery. If Lundgold and Livingstone are giving accurate testimony, the fact that the two systems exhibit the same significant omission suggests that they drew from a common source.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:David_R._Hawkins:Power_vs_Force
Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone writes for Educate-Yourself and I wrote a little about him here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16919-Japan-is-Developing-Over-Unity-Power-Generators&p=181882&viewfull=1#post181882). So whether you believe this to be true is ultimately up to you, as it always is.
However, others share the view that Hawkins' work is derivative. Of course, it can also be argued that there is nothing really new under the sun. Here is a link to page 12 of a long thread about David Hawkins for those interested in pursuing further the origins of his ideas:
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,13156,page=12
I thought this might be an interesting subject for this forum, and comments from Chris would especially be appreciated.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10620-EVOLUTION-A-clarifying-post-on-behalf-of-Charles&p=91671&viewfull=1#post91671
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material&p=125731&viewfull=1#post125731
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?631-At-the-Vatican-Up-Against-the-World&p=156264&viewfull=1#post156264
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14867-The-Akashic-Records-Inner-Earth-and-your-Book-of-Life&p=158086&viewfull=1#post158086
Reviewer Mary-Sue Haliburton in 2006 made an interesting observation:
CAVEAT #1: Not Exclusive or Original
The late Ian Xel Lundgold had spent thousands of dollars to study the training courses of Scientology, and disclosed that their teachings are virtually the same as the system Hawkins is presenting here. This anecdote came in an email from an author who is known online as Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone. He writes regularly on the subject of how focussed human consciousness can be used to affect the health of planet and the unfolding of events. (For a sample of his writing, see his hope-inspiring recent piece "The United States of a Miracle" [2]).
That leaves unanswered the question of whether Hawkins learned about this hierarchy of values from Scientology, or whether he arrived at a similar system through a process of independent discovery. If Lundgold and Livingstone are giving accurate testimony, the fact that the two systems exhibit the same significant omission suggests that they drew from a common source.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:David_R._Hawkins:Power_vs_Force
Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone writes for Educate-Yourself and I wrote a little about him here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16919-Japan-is-Developing-Over-Unity-Power-Generators&p=181882&viewfull=1#post181882). So whether you believe this to be true is ultimately up to you, as it always is.
However, others share the view that Hawkins' work is derivative. Of course, it can also be argued that there is nothing really new under the sun. Here is a link to page 12 of a long thread about David Hawkins for those interested in pursuing further the origins of his ideas:
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,13156,page=12
I thought this might be an interesting subject for this forum, and comments from Chris would especially be appreciated.