DarkSai
24th March 2011, 08:27
For those that are unfamiliar, Omniverse, a user on this forum (usually called Omni in posts) was posting answers to questions for the ET AI which is mind controlling him. here is the link http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15467-Advanced-AI-is-taking-questions%28the-machine-possibly...%29&p=182092#post182092, and I suggest that anyone read through it as there is a lot of good stuff and in there as well as what I'm going to be saying will make a whole lot more sense. I also recommend reading up on Omni's blog, particularly his youtube videos on mind control.
Please note that I'm not going to explicitly state every bit of evidence as to why I think what I do; I'm mainly here to get people thinking on a less superficial and deeper level and to get the most out of sources such as Omni's and others like it.
What I intend to do in this post is give my personal deductions on what I feel are some of the finer and more subtle points as to how Omni's interaction with AI ("it" prefers to be referred as a she, I simply call her AI for fluidity) works.
First, I'd like to give my understanding of Omni's situation in this as I suspect this is where most people go wrong and end up discounting otherwise powerful info (Most of this is from Omni's own words). However, to understand the nature of his situation I must delve first into my deductions on what's going on "behind the scenes" ie the ET politics and viewpoints influencing/controlling AI. Please note that this is somewhat (or very, depending on your view) "speculative", however, i have put a lot of thought and applied common sense into this so please reserve your conclusions until you've read through my whole post. As Omni has stated, there are both, what we consider, benevolent and negative ETs that have a stake what Omni thinks, feels and does, as well as Terran elements which I will discuss a bit as well. However, there is a third, overseeing party I will call neutrals for now, as this reflects their actions (they could be truly neutral, or benevolent purists on non-intervention). They, in my opinion, epitomise the "non-interference" philosophy and act as the mediators between the negatives and benevolents involved. This I have concluded based on the heavily "balanced" approach AI has taken with Omni; for every request a benevolent takes, an equally negative event, or series of, is implemented and vice versa (this is an unfathomably simplistic description, by the way). Omni has told me that each party has their own AI which serves their agenda and chooses how to implement their requests on or through Omni. Omni has also said that the Terran elements can be simply absorbed into positive and negative ETs, however I do believe it's important to make a point of both PTB and negatives being involved. The first thing to about the negatives and PTB, is that there is no way they can truly trust one another; both are (or PTB is naively blind) aware how underhanded, treacherous and self-serving the other is. I believe it's important for everyone to understand this, not just for this but on every level. The more aware we, as the "good guys", are aware of PTB's or negative ET's weaknesses, the less power they have over us. Remember, it's the powers, not power, that be. they rely heavily on the fact that we perceive them as some unified unstoppable force as it propagates the sense of helplessness. I would bet that PTB's greatest fear must be that one or a coalition of it's factions will defect to the cause of the end suffering on this planet and because of their very self-serving pathos, all it would require is convincing them that it is, in fact, in their own best interest and survival. I have no real clue about positive Terran influence on Omni, so I'll count them in with the benevolents for now.
The benevolent and negative intentions are (broadly) both pretty simple to understand, however Omni's experiences only truly "make sense" (to me anyway) when you consider the neutral perspective of non-interference. This non-interference applies to the ETs as well, in a way, else their interference would be prevented as well. The answer to all how these parties can seemingly get along is that they must at least respect each other's right to further their agendas, even if it encroaches on their own and don't like it, it's just another thing they have to deal with.
This is where things get more tricky.. Omni's life, as far as I can tell, is 100% controlled by AI as he says. His feelings, thoughts, what he is and isn't allowed to understand etc, etc, everything that occurs in his reality. This poses an immediate paradox; how is he not simply meat-puppet to the AI? The answer is is that his personal life, feelings, emotions, natural thinking, etc, are all calculated into his experiences by AI. This means that if you talk to Omni, you're still talking to Omni (most of the time), even though everything is controlled and calculated. If you read through his posts, there are, for the most part, quite distinguishable writing styles between Omni and AI. This is not to say that it's impossible that AI can totally deceive you into thinking that some BS is completely Omni's view (which he has stated has happened many times, including messing up his own family and friends' perception of him) but you must understand that it is both limited and calculated, and more than likely at the request of negatives simply to discredit him. I really hope everyone reading this gets this point because it would spare Omni a lot of the kind of grief he's had to endure on other forums (compare the qna thread here to this http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread444479/pg1).
the next thing i will talk about is what I understand of how the benevolents and negatives implement their motives, those in a word for each being to inform and to disinform, respectfully. In general, I think most people are aware of how negatives, human or otherwise work with disinfo. In general, when, something gets out they dont want (and also beforehand) they whip up a fantastical and/or nightmarish story and lace it with the evidence they didn't want you to see in order to lead people down the wrong road or simply make someone sound insane. In short the strategy is to make you look away, or spread BS.
What a lot of people don't seem to realise is the inherent flaws and fundamental limitations of this kind of deception. basically every bit of disinfo MUST have some truth, and eventually, someone, somewhere will see through (mostly at least) the fabrication and reality that something more is being hidden. This will just unravel one layer of the disinfo defence, and you can be sure there will be an even more "convincing" story waiting around the corner. At this point, I suspect is where most peoples' truth-seeking breaks down, the point at which a new disinfo story is introduced, as we are inclined, suggested to and coerced into one of two reactions: totally reject either scenario, or debate which is right ad infinitum. I cannot stress enough how much damage this has perpetually caused to all alternative movements. the Bill/Kerry split and Icke's reptiod bomb are but two of many stark examples of this in action. Every time a new religion, political system or idealist view is sold to the public, it's this very same strategy, on a larger scale. Over time, the newer story usually takes over as more "evidence" will have been uncovered and thus be more believable, and engineered to ridicule the old. The nice thing is this strategy has one solid, highly effective counter: open, understanding and analytical minds. You see, every time a new spin is fed, bits of truth are repeated with a new analysis/story to discredit the old. The task of the open mind is to dissect out the common denominators to see what it is they're really hiding, which will eventually lead to the true story, but along the way point out the areas focus they're diverting you away from. In this regard, the internet was TPTBs biggest mistake.
The benevolent's implementation of AI however, is a quite a bit more complex imo. This is because they're basically not allowed, and probably wouldn't, just come out and tell us what they want us to know. This is probably mostly calculated by AI to get a net effect, although things don't always come out exactly as they would like them. To get out the "good stuff" requires a focus on thinking "what is it that's really important?", "what is it that, while cool and interesting, is neither here nor there for us?", "which bits of info are really unnecessary?". Things like when will we have disclosure, which races are here on Earth, in general anything that doesn't have much imminent practical value (ie things we should really only worrying about "when the time comes") are all things that either will draw a lot of disinfo, or will simply not get a response. It's much more difficult to describe how to look for the stuff you really need to know (ie "the message") because for each person it's different as we all have a different mission. It's all part of being the ground team here on Earth :). They have access to everyone's thoughts in calculating Omni's actions/responses and will, to a fairly large degree, consider the energy patterns put out by our thoughts and posts regarding the discourse taken. The benevolents, I believe, will also add in their own disinfo. this is because doing so will greatly increase the potency of the info given, especially if it's easily doubted. What is important is to look for which part exactly is the disinfo.
The message I really want to get out is for everyone to, in general, become more aware of what they're reading. sometimes (often in the case AI's direct words) a subtle phrase, when taken under scrutiny, can lead to much deeper insight on what's being said than what is obviously given, whether it completely changes the context of the text or simply implies that what is seemingly presented to be taken as false, doesn't necessarily have to be.
Much thanks to anyone and everyone who has taken the time to sit stare at my wall of text :)
Even if just one person is helped it will have been worth it.
I welcome any comments and/or constructive criticisms; this is by no means the end of the story.
Peace and Love Eternal
DarkSai
Please note that I'm not going to explicitly state every bit of evidence as to why I think what I do; I'm mainly here to get people thinking on a less superficial and deeper level and to get the most out of sources such as Omni's and others like it.
What I intend to do in this post is give my personal deductions on what I feel are some of the finer and more subtle points as to how Omni's interaction with AI ("it" prefers to be referred as a she, I simply call her AI for fluidity) works.
First, I'd like to give my understanding of Omni's situation in this as I suspect this is where most people go wrong and end up discounting otherwise powerful info (Most of this is from Omni's own words). However, to understand the nature of his situation I must delve first into my deductions on what's going on "behind the scenes" ie the ET politics and viewpoints influencing/controlling AI. Please note that this is somewhat (or very, depending on your view) "speculative", however, i have put a lot of thought and applied common sense into this so please reserve your conclusions until you've read through my whole post. As Omni has stated, there are both, what we consider, benevolent and negative ETs that have a stake what Omni thinks, feels and does, as well as Terran elements which I will discuss a bit as well. However, there is a third, overseeing party I will call neutrals for now, as this reflects their actions (they could be truly neutral, or benevolent purists on non-intervention). They, in my opinion, epitomise the "non-interference" philosophy and act as the mediators between the negatives and benevolents involved. This I have concluded based on the heavily "balanced" approach AI has taken with Omni; for every request a benevolent takes, an equally negative event, or series of, is implemented and vice versa (this is an unfathomably simplistic description, by the way). Omni has told me that each party has their own AI which serves their agenda and chooses how to implement their requests on or through Omni. Omni has also said that the Terran elements can be simply absorbed into positive and negative ETs, however I do believe it's important to make a point of both PTB and negatives being involved. The first thing to about the negatives and PTB, is that there is no way they can truly trust one another; both are (or PTB is naively blind) aware how underhanded, treacherous and self-serving the other is. I believe it's important for everyone to understand this, not just for this but on every level. The more aware we, as the "good guys", are aware of PTB's or negative ET's weaknesses, the less power they have over us. Remember, it's the powers, not power, that be. they rely heavily on the fact that we perceive them as some unified unstoppable force as it propagates the sense of helplessness. I would bet that PTB's greatest fear must be that one or a coalition of it's factions will defect to the cause of the end suffering on this planet and because of their very self-serving pathos, all it would require is convincing them that it is, in fact, in their own best interest and survival. I have no real clue about positive Terran influence on Omni, so I'll count them in with the benevolents for now.
The benevolent and negative intentions are (broadly) both pretty simple to understand, however Omni's experiences only truly "make sense" (to me anyway) when you consider the neutral perspective of non-interference. This non-interference applies to the ETs as well, in a way, else their interference would be prevented as well. The answer to all how these parties can seemingly get along is that they must at least respect each other's right to further their agendas, even if it encroaches on their own and don't like it, it's just another thing they have to deal with.
This is where things get more tricky.. Omni's life, as far as I can tell, is 100% controlled by AI as he says. His feelings, thoughts, what he is and isn't allowed to understand etc, etc, everything that occurs in his reality. This poses an immediate paradox; how is he not simply meat-puppet to the AI? The answer is is that his personal life, feelings, emotions, natural thinking, etc, are all calculated into his experiences by AI. This means that if you talk to Omni, you're still talking to Omni (most of the time), even though everything is controlled and calculated. If you read through his posts, there are, for the most part, quite distinguishable writing styles between Omni and AI. This is not to say that it's impossible that AI can totally deceive you into thinking that some BS is completely Omni's view (which he has stated has happened many times, including messing up his own family and friends' perception of him) but you must understand that it is both limited and calculated, and more than likely at the request of negatives simply to discredit him. I really hope everyone reading this gets this point because it would spare Omni a lot of the kind of grief he's had to endure on other forums (compare the qna thread here to this http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread444479/pg1).
the next thing i will talk about is what I understand of how the benevolents and negatives implement their motives, those in a word for each being to inform and to disinform, respectfully. In general, I think most people are aware of how negatives, human or otherwise work with disinfo. In general, when, something gets out they dont want (and also beforehand) they whip up a fantastical and/or nightmarish story and lace it with the evidence they didn't want you to see in order to lead people down the wrong road or simply make someone sound insane. In short the strategy is to make you look away, or spread BS.
What a lot of people don't seem to realise is the inherent flaws and fundamental limitations of this kind of deception. basically every bit of disinfo MUST have some truth, and eventually, someone, somewhere will see through (mostly at least) the fabrication and reality that something more is being hidden. This will just unravel one layer of the disinfo defence, and you can be sure there will be an even more "convincing" story waiting around the corner. At this point, I suspect is where most peoples' truth-seeking breaks down, the point at which a new disinfo story is introduced, as we are inclined, suggested to and coerced into one of two reactions: totally reject either scenario, or debate which is right ad infinitum. I cannot stress enough how much damage this has perpetually caused to all alternative movements. the Bill/Kerry split and Icke's reptiod bomb are but two of many stark examples of this in action. Every time a new religion, political system or idealist view is sold to the public, it's this very same strategy, on a larger scale. Over time, the newer story usually takes over as more "evidence" will have been uncovered and thus be more believable, and engineered to ridicule the old. The nice thing is this strategy has one solid, highly effective counter: open, understanding and analytical minds. You see, every time a new spin is fed, bits of truth are repeated with a new analysis/story to discredit the old. The task of the open mind is to dissect out the common denominators to see what it is they're really hiding, which will eventually lead to the true story, but along the way point out the areas focus they're diverting you away from. In this regard, the internet was TPTBs biggest mistake.
The benevolent's implementation of AI however, is a quite a bit more complex imo. This is because they're basically not allowed, and probably wouldn't, just come out and tell us what they want us to know. This is probably mostly calculated by AI to get a net effect, although things don't always come out exactly as they would like them. To get out the "good stuff" requires a focus on thinking "what is it that's really important?", "what is it that, while cool and interesting, is neither here nor there for us?", "which bits of info are really unnecessary?". Things like when will we have disclosure, which races are here on Earth, in general anything that doesn't have much imminent practical value (ie things we should really only worrying about "when the time comes") are all things that either will draw a lot of disinfo, or will simply not get a response. It's much more difficult to describe how to look for the stuff you really need to know (ie "the message") because for each person it's different as we all have a different mission. It's all part of being the ground team here on Earth :). They have access to everyone's thoughts in calculating Omni's actions/responses and will, to a fairly large degree, consider the energy patterns put out by our thoughts and posts regarding the discourse taken. The benevolents, I believe, will also add in their own disinfo. this is because doing so will greatly increase the potency of the info given, especially if it's easily doubted. What is important is to look for which part exactly is the disinfo.
The message I really want to get out is for everyone to, in general, become more aware of what they're reading. sometimes (often in the case AI's direct words) a subtle phrase, when taken under scrutiny, can lead to much deeper insight on what's being said than what is obviously given, whether it completely changes the context of the text or simply implies that what is seemingly presented to be taken as false, doesn't necessarily have to be.
Much thanks to anyone and everyone who has taken the time to sit stare at my wall of text :)
Even if just one person is helped it will have been worth it.
I welcome any comments and/or constructive criticisms; this is by no means the end of the story.
Peace and Love Eternal
DarkSai