Enlightenment: Practical steps

[sepia]

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Dear Avalonians

In this thread I will publish a concise text about the different steps of a spiritual journey.
The material will be clearly structured, so that you easily find the topic that you need. Everything I publish here is based on my own work, personal experience, teaching, therapy and the exchange with clients, students and friends.

My teaching-style you might have met here already:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16739-Radio-active-matter-Let-s-be-spiritual-Healers


As far as my schedule allows I will answer upcoming questions of general interest.

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Any blissful moment,
when everything is absolutely perfect for you,
when you're overwhelmed with love and joy,
when you peacefully permeate the Universe - this as a moment of enlightenment.

Moments like this happen - and disappear - probably / hopefully most of you have experienced them.
This is like the little sample you get in stores as a temptation... Do you buy it?

I would like to tempt you... And I would like to support you.

The spiritual journey has always been and still is the most exciting and the most satisfying 'project' in my life.
It's been my main topic for at least 35 years. - So I can say: There is logic, the steps are describable and doable - the experinces sometimes are difficult to describe :)

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Avalon Members of course are not beginners.

But after teaching for many years I know that many questions arise on a spiritual journey.
I'll offer some answers here - they might be helpful.

Good to know:

1. There are smaller and bigger moments of enlightenment.
2. Every Chakra can be enlightened or not.
3. Enlightenment can be achieved and is not just an "act of Grace of some unknown God."
4. Enlightenment is not permanent. - It can be lost - otherwise we wouldn't be here.

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Index: will be adjusted:

Chapter 1: Introduction Post 6
Concentration on the third Eye Post 5 und 21
Chapter 2: Karma-Yoga; Bhakti-Yoga; Jnana Yoga

A. Karma-Yoga Post 25

B. Bhakti-Yoga Post 28

C. Jnana Yoga Post 30
Chapter 3: About sleeping and dreaming Post 33
Chapter 4: Chakras

A. Overview: personal chakras, astral and spiritual levels Post 35

B. How the chakras and the realms relate to each-other Post 36
Chapter 5: Practical work with the Chakras

First Chakra, the root, Post 40

Second Chakra, the Hara, Post 47

Third Chakra, the Solar Plexus, Post 54

Fourth Chakra, the heart, Post 55

Fifth Chakra, the throat, Post 64

Sixth Chakra, the third eye, Post 65 and 66
Chapter 6: The astral Spheres, Introduction Post 68
Chapter 7: Lowest astral Level, Level 7, Post 70
Chapter 8: Second astral Level, Level 8, Post 87
Chapter 8: More to Level 8: Astral Sexuality, Post 101
Chapter 8: More to Level 8: Techniques on Level 8, Post 107
Chapter 9: Third astral Level, Level 9, Post 120
Chapter 10: Intermission



...taste the sweetness of a little Meditation.... Post 129
Audio: Guided Meditation - step by step till Level 10, Post 131
The function of the Higher Self, Post 139

Chapter 11: Divine Love and Compassion on Level 10, Post 140

Addendum to Level 10, Post 141
Chapter 12: Joy and playful creativity on Level 11, Post 142

Nature in it's diversity..., Post 143
Chapter 13: Unlimited awareness, spiritual understanding on Level 12, Post 144

Going home - Post 153
In moments of grace... Post 156
Chapter 14: The Numinous, Post 160

1. What happens just before entering the Numinous? Post 161
2. What happens after we come back? Post 163 and 164
3. How does this influence your existence? Post 165
Chapter 15: GOD , Post 166


Self-made GOD, Post 167
The all powerful astral GOD's, the Elohim of the old Testament, Post 168
The heavenly helpers, Post 171
Highest spiritual beings, Post 172


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Not written or published in English yet - but it's ready to be brought in form and to be served.

I'm looking forward to see you around!

Sepia

[Lord Sidious]

Serve it up, I am at the table with knife and fork in hand waiting to go.

[SHAPE]

Very interested to see where this goes and yes I will see you around.

Thank you Sepia

[Borden]

I would love to read more of this too, thank you.

Borden.

[sepia]

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Okay, let's start then.

I have some theory to offer... But let's first take our concentration to the third eye.

This is a point in the center of your head.

If this is new for you try this:


Visualize an apple! The apple appears on your inner screen or somewhere in front of you. This is how we see, using our inner eye/s. It is always a little bit like through a glass with steam on it. - You will get used to it...
The place from where you project the image is your third eye. - The position can slightly change, because the third eye belongs to your energetic body and not in the physical.

At the beginning this concentration can be very tiring. If so, go there for short durations, again and again. Or how I described it here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16739-Radio-active-matter-Let-s-be-spiritual-Healers&p=182120&viewfull=1#post182120



Stay playful!

Don't sit there too long trying very hard to be still...

Be more like a honeybee, getting tiny amounts of the sweetest nectar here and there.

Your nectar shall be: "I'm a free spiritual being."

Have a drop of this nectar again and again - just one sentence - just one glimpse of joy - love - gratefulness...

And you do this from your third eye. And it's all fine to feel the resonance of the sweetness in the heart.

Slowly this 'muscle' becomes stronger - and at a certain point this will be your natural window through which you look into the world.

This is the seat of your consciousness.

Don't worry - we will balance it with the other chakras.

[sepia]

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1. Introduction

Now doubt, we all are coming from a divine source, I call it the Numinous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numinous

It's Unity: no observer - no subject. That's why it is indescribable.



What ever you say about the Numinous is wrong and right at the same time:
It's nothing - its every thing - it is not...
It's eternal - it's a constant now...
It's everywhere - it's nowhere - actually it is beyond space and time...

So why is it at all interesting to understand and experience it?

If you have your priority here, if you love this divine source you are connected to the source of endless love. And after healing your personal things this very essence will be pouring out of you - always...

But the goal of all spiritual work is not do melt into the numinous and disappear for all times :)

Beings might desappear and take a break (I go there during the night, when my body sleeps), but then they prefer to be here in one way or the other.


There is no other source.

Not even for 'devils', 'demons', Reptilians, any ET's...
Beings are beings - all divine, if you like it or not.

Experiences have transformed them to different, more dense qualities of consciousness.
Some beings have become destructive because their constructive attempts were not successful.
They have been programed or hypnotized in astral spheres or maybe even during a lifetime.

We all got some programs, that's normal. They separate us from Einlighenment, make us forget, or even make us insane... more or less - hmmm :twitch:


The chance to heal and get rid of programming is there, because the divine sparkle cannot be destroyed.
(But it can be very difficult or even impossible to reach within a lifetime, I'm sorry to say - - - )

All the spiritual realms and all the astral spheres are mirrored in our personal chakras.
So every Chakra has an more subtle equivalent. - More about this later.

When we enter this body we first make the connection with the third eye and from there we in-carnate - we enter the flesh (carne means flesh.)

In a ideal situation we learn to use all our tools:

That means we live in all our Chakras and enjoy the treasure of these abilities.

Less ideal, and actually the common situation:

Only 2 - 3 Chakras are in use -
The used Chakras are somehow damaged and in bad shape -
The person is emotionally thrown back and forth, up and down, feels pushed around, is more or less limited or even disoriented.

So one of the main issues here is to get access to the chakras and to provide the means to heal them.

The use of a hammer is obvious. A Chakra is a bit more complicated. But there is logic in it.


See you soon, Sepia

[witchy1]

Dear Sepia, I think I have 1 up and running. :o. (maybe 2) The others are a bit elusive tho. How to transfer this to the cerebral???? They wont move and are stuck in their own place. Is this normal??? Are they meant to move around the body or open seperate from one another and not speak to each other. Do they all have their own special tweaking mechanism that when open in unison........... will do what exactly, what will being ascended actually do for us on this plane?? (I have the solar plexus and "bottom" one open (intermittantly)).
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I had a vision / dream where I confronted someone who was to take me into ascention - I asked to be given a view, and to be perfectly honest it was all a bit boring. Peaceful loving infinate pure, with one, - but it did not provide the ups and downs, emotions, connections to others, fun and laughter that I have now ...... everything was just so perfect on a spiritual front, but devoid of passion. It was quite different. Have I completely lost the plot???? Did i get the wrong message?

Perhaps I need a straight jacket???

[tunguska]

Very interested I can't wait to read it all
Thank you

[sepia]

.... and to be perfectly honest it was all a bit boring. Peaceful loving infinate pure, with one, - but it did not provide the ups and downs, emotions, connections to others, fun and laughter that I have now ...... everything was just so perfect on a spiritual front, but devoid of passion. It was quite different. Have I completely lost the plot???? Did i get the wrong message?


...so let me quickly put my harp aside and pause my Halleluja-singing...

A straight jacket??? - Wouldn't be my first idea, but if you like to have this experience? :kiss:

If spirituality seems boring to you, it is probably not yet the right thing :)

For me it's the greatest thing I came across - and I often experience myself as more alive then many, not only in my generation.

More material will come that can also be quite helpful for a passionate woman like witchy1.

Enjoy the day, sweetheart.

[lightblue]

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a very similar thread was started just earlier on..maybe they could be merged together...

here's what i'd like to say:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17049-Enlightenment-Ascension-Spiritual-Evolution-Maybe-we-should-look-at-it-differently&p=183771#post183771

also:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4370-Project-Avalon-Members-music-thread&p=183782#post183782

:yu: l.

[Heather2017]

I had a vision / dream where I confronted someone who was to take me into ascention - I asked to be given a view, and to be perfectly honest it was all a bit boring. Peaceful loving infinate pure, with one, - but it did not provide the ups and downs, emotions, connections to others, fun and laughter that I have now ...... everything was just so perfect on a spiritual front, but devoid of passion. It was quite different. Have I completely lost the plot???? Did i get the wrong message?

Sepia, many thanks for generously sharing what you've learned with us. Also, your posts on nuclear energy are helping me understand the incredible power of compassion, empathy, forgiveness and gratitude.

Witchy, maybe some of us agreed to incarnate on Earth again partly because of what you've described? I can imagine discussing the pros and cons with another soul:

"Are you sure you want to be stuck in a body and a 3-D life again? Remember the sense of isolation and the suffering? Remember all the limitations?"

"Yeah, it's really tough... But remember how exciting it was? Remember eating, drinking, making love, laughing, dancing, and all those wonderful moments when you connect with a kindred soul?"

[heretogrow]

Dear witchy1,
I am wondering if the fact that in your dream you were shone someone elses view of ascension, rather than experiencing the bliss first hand, could make it appear boring. It would be kind of like looking at a photo rather than being there and experiencing it perhaps.

Just wondering and thinking perhaps there are many blissful spiritual "experiences" in your future...

Much love,
Julia:)

[heretogrow]

Dear Sepia,
Thank you for this thread. I am able to go into the third eye with concentration and reach this place of bliss. It is like an alignment of your physcial with your higher self and I first must clear any baggage or it will not work well. Some times it is easy, sometimes the chatter of the mind makes it quite difficult.

When I was a child I did this spontaneously and often. I had a best friend and we would talk about this and do this together. One day while on the swings of the playground, our entire class went in and the older kids came out to play and we were both not even aware. When the teacher assistant came out to get us we were both sitting on the swings "daydreaming." She was scolding us as we were making our way up the steps to our classroom. I remember my friend and I just smiled to each other. We could not tell her we were playing in the heavens!

We are very blessed to have you share your gifts with us dear Sepia! You are a wonderful, nurturing teacher!
Much Love,
Julia:)

[greybeard]

Yogananda was asked if bliss got boring, his answer
"Its ever new bliss"
Namaste

[Selene]

Dear Mods:

Please, please pin this superb thread permanently to the very top of the tree - it is surely one of the Crown Jewels of Avalon!

Thank you so much, dear Sepia, for your giving us this eloquent gift from your exceptional experience. (And I say this without diminishing the extraordinary spiritual accomplishments of so many good Avalonians here. You are all to be complimented by this.)

Cheers,

Selene

[lightblue]

selene:
Dear Mods:

Please, please pin this superb thread permanently to the very top of the tree - it is surely one of the Crown Jewels of Avalon!

Thank you so much, dear Sepia, for your giving us this eloquent gift from your exceptional experience. (And I say this without diminishing the extraordinary spiritual accomplishments of so many good Avalonians here. You are all to be complimented by this.)

Cheers,

Selene

if i was one of the mods, i'd have a wee think....but wouldn't dwell long in that thought..

best wishes :wink: l

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[sepia]

Thank you so much, dear Sepia, for your giving us this eloquent gift from your exceptional experience. (And I say this without diminishing the extraordinary spiritual accomplishments of so many good Avalonians here. You are all to be complimented by this.)

Cheers,

Selene

I humbly lower my head - dear Selene - grateful for this wonderful audience.

Sepia

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Mods:
Please, please pin this superb thread permanently to the very top of the tree - it is surely one of the Crown Jewels of Avalon!


I fully agree... Done. :)

[manny]

dear sepia.
may i share my experience with you .
and could you tell me if i,m on the right track.
i started meditating many years ago.
self taught.so i don,t know if its right or wrong.
i often do it before going to sleep .lying down.
i often feel a pulling in my forehead(something like elastic).recently there has been a gentle pushing on my right temple.
and the elastic feeling goes across my forehead.

this sometimes happens without me even trying.as soon as my head hits the pillow.

my body temperater raises during this mediation.sometimes i start to sweat.and as soon as i finish i would cool down quickly,to normal temperature.
my breathing can become as if i feel i do not breathe.i am breathing from my stomach.
i feel as if i want to rise up(obe)but there is a weight pulling my body down.
especially at the base of the head.it becomes very heavy.
i have seen many colours in my minds eye and in the bedroom.
and sometimes at night i see streaks of colour.

is this awakening,induced meditation.
am i doing the process right.
thank you

[witchy1]

More material will come that can also be quite helpful for a passionate woman like witchy1.

Dear Sepia, I think you are an angel walking the earth.:hug: I cant wait for more information.

I do have moments where I think Im really getting it, and more recently weird things like people morphing in front of my eyes (weird), feeling light and emerged with the ether - floating almost. Intense feelings of pure love and joy. Gotta admit its kinda cool.

I understand there are not many truely ascended souls walking the earth, (or perhaps they are hiding - LOL) do you think the ascended soul is capable of healing the sick, manifesting anything desired (for the greater good) travelling thru the ether etc?

I love this thread, thank you so much for sharing Sepia

[sepia]

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Did you find your third eye as described in post 5?

Go there often during the day.

Specially if you tend to get lost in worldly things, emotional conditions and attachements.
Do it on a sharp inhale - come back inside to a place not bigger than a pea -
maybe repeat once or twice.

After this you allow the breath to flow freely in it's natural speed and size -
even if it's very small. Trust your body, it will take what it needs.

It's like "Uuuuuuh - coming home!" What a joy.

Enter this space and get yourself comfortable.
Sometimes it is like a cave - and you sit here in silence like a golden Buddha (any Buddha-Smiley around?)
sometimes it's more like a mountain-top, the vastness of space above you,
sometimes you feel more like in a light-house...

It's the doorway, like heretogrow discribed here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17056-Enlightenment-Practical-steps&p=183855&viewfull=1#post183855

For now I would recommend you strengthen your concentration-muscle.... don't float away - specially if you are new in this field.

Just come back inside on the inhale, and on the exhale you keep the concentration, but at the same time watch the energy flowing, releasing, clearing down through your body and into the ground.

Short sequences are fine. Even if it is only 30 seconds.

But at the end of the day, take some more time and make sure that the downward flow of energy is free.


Would you like to say " I am "?
It's a very old indian Mantra - you can gently repeat it - or just feel, that you are.

[sepia]

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...a very similar thread was started just earlier on..maybe they could be merged together...


Dear lightblue

I'm holding a seminar here and I would like to keep the quality concise. That's why the threads will not be merged.

Love to you, Sepia

[sepia]

dear sepia.
may i share my experience with you .
and could you tell me if i,m on the right track.
i started meditating many years ago.
self taught.so i don,t know if its right or wrong.
i often do it before going to sleep .lying down.
i often feel a pulling in my forehead(something like elastic).recently there has been a gentle pushing on my right temple.
and the elastic feeling goes across my forehead.

this sometimes happens without me even trying.as soon as my head hits the pillow.

my body temperater raises during this mediation.sometimes i start to sweat.and as soon as i finish i would cool down quickly,to normal temperature.
my breathing can become as if i feel i do not breathe.i am breathing from my stomach.
i feel as if i want to rise up(obe)but there is a weight pulling my body down.
especially at the base of the head.it becomes very heavy.
i have seen many colours in my minds eye and in the bedroom.
and sometimes at night i see streaks of colour.

is this awakening,induced meditation.
am i doing the process right.
thank you

Dear manny

Great, that you brought Meditation on a regular base, gave it a place in your live.

I get the impression that there is some blocked energy around.
(Too hot, pressure here and there, pulling...)

The exercise I just described will be helpfull for this condition. Do it for some time (5 - 15 minutes) before you lay down.

To increase the down-flow of energy - which is extremely calming, cooling and healing - please visualize your secondary Chakras in the middle of the hands and the feet as being open, so that the energy easily can leave your body.

Don't worry - there is always enough to come from your Higher Self.

[sepia]

I do have moments where I think Im really getting it, and more recently weird things like people morphing in front of my eyes (weird), feeling light and emerged with the ether - floating almost. Intense feelings of pure love and joy. Gotta admit its kinda cool.

I love this thread, thank you so much for sharing Sepia

Stick with us, dear witchy :)

At the moment you are closer to ether than to the ground.
And as you say: "Gotta admit its kinda cool."
I know. But it also has it's negative sides.

I hope I can make your choice easier to really incarnate into the body. Then you can switch and can be where you want to be.

For me it is enough to be a person during daytime...
At night I prefer to be an Angel, I need to go home

:rapture:

[sepia]

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2. Chapter: Karma-Yoga; Bhakti-Yoga; Jnana Yoga

Meditation can be done in numerous ways. These 3 represent the three main principles.
Each of these ways can lead you to some kind of enlightenment state - but they are not identical.

Best is we travel on all of these three paths in one lifetime...
The Triad makes it complete. It is possible, trust me.

Most probably you are almost halfway through :)
Otherwise you wouldn't follow this thread on this forum... But nobody tells you. :nod:


A. Karma Yoga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_yoga

This is the path of selfless action and selfless service.
Be in 'The Here and Now' and do everything with your full presence.

Concentration on the Hara (2. Chakra), in the middle of the belly below the navel, like you do in Zen-Meditation.
You watch your breath. You are an observer. If there are any thoughts you let them pass like clouds.

In order to do Karma Yoga, you don't have to sit on a pillow and to follow the Zen-rules. Zen is just one possibility.

May be you had your Karma-Yoga-Time already, or are having it again and again without knowing it?


For example

when you play the piano, any instrument
when you cook or clean,
when you hike or sing,
when you make love - *harrumph* - - - all things can be done in many different qualities...

Always choose the best, the clearest, the purest, most truthfull, the most loving way to do things and your spirituality will progress.

Making love when you are in love is - - - - - many things, - - - - - and it can be the greatest preparation for spiritual practice.

Remember how it was, when your skin touched the skin of your partner for the first time...?

The quality of your experience depends from your ability to focus and to relax at the same time...
This warm hand gently supporting your back... your neck... the lips touching for the first time...

(Careful: There is only one first time... it's most precious!)

Remember the Movie Avatar:
The plants are communicating with each other with light. Every persons steps on the roots would create a fireworks of light, hundreds of signals were runnung through the roots to other plants...
This happens in your body between the cells. A universe on its own...

Focus and relaxation - love and compassion - surrender to the highest quality of your and your partners essence - one-pointedness - let go - enjoy.

hmmm - isn't spirituality exciting? :o

And you know what? You don't even need a partner for that.
And you don't even need to touch yourself.
The fireworks of love is always ready to start, sometimes from the second Chakra, sometimes from the heart.
It's a divine quality - pure - eternal - be with it - enjoy -


Karma yoga is a good technique. Many good experiences possible, no doubt.
You learn to sit still, to focus, you are in the here and now.

Be careful not to get caught up in rituals.

In the best case a ritual is a stepping stone -
but very often it becomes a trap.
People stay attached to the ritual... and after some time all what's left is an empty form.

Many of the 'serious' Zen-People sit far too heavy on their pillows
to ever open up to the indescribable lightness and love of the spiritual essence.

Don't spend to many years or decades on Zen - there is much more to discover.

[TraineeHuman]

Sepia, I suggest it’s never true that we lose the effects of joyful experiences, that you’re calling “enlightenments”, on our consciousness and psyche. It only looks to use like we’ve lost them. The trouble is, we adjust ourselves, and the effects of that formerly very positive experience now become “normal”. After all, how do you really know you’ve “lost” it? How do you know it’s not still there but you ignore that it is because you filter out the things you’re most familiar with?

I prefer to talk in terms of eventually achieving happiness, of staying happy in all circumstances. This can be done, and I know quite a few people who have, and I’ve done it myself. It’s not some kind of ultimate grand liberation. But it does mean that you can enjoy eating leftovers as much as somebody else would enjoy a la carte. Not that you wouldn’t enjoy a la carte more also. (And permanent happiness is only the beginning stage of the journey to full liberation.)

Achieving happiness (or freedom from unhappiness) seems to me to be exactly what most gurus/masters mean when they say that after getting a great enlightenment experience the student must then continue working to “consolidate” it.

As I understand it, achieving that state comes precisely from accumulating enough joyful experiences. And precisely because we don’t lose their effect on us, at some point we reach a kind of “critical mass” of joy.

I’ve seen some very rare individuals who had been loved so greatly and so genuinely from childhood on, they achieved this state of permanent happiness without having to meditate at all. There are quite a few famous gurus who were so loved by their parents and teachers that they didn’t need much meditation at all before the light bulb went on.

By the way, I understand “enlightenment” is an old English word meaning to be made lighter. This fits with sayings attributed to Jesus such as: “Come to me all you who labour hard and I will give you rest. My “yolk” is easy and my “burden” is light.” If you’re happy all the time, there may be little problems to solve but underneath it all there is no problem, for you. That’s the truth, anyway. Happiness is just a matter of discovering what reality is truly like. It’s not “optimistic”, but it’s the real nature of the world.

[sepia]

I prefer to talk in terms of eventually achieving happiness, of staying happy in all circumstances.


Happiness - yeah - lovely...

But there is much more to remember. Great if all falls into your lab because your parents loved you so much.

And what about the others? -

Divinity, divine consciousness - hmmmm - 'happyness' doesn't really match that.

I would like to reach out for those who are willing to do honest work.

Kind regards, Sepia

[sepia]

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B. Bhakti Yoga:

This is the path of love and devotion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhakti_yoga
Concentration on the heart, (4. Chakra).

Bhakti Yogis and Yoginis (that's how you're called when you're on the Journey of love and devotion) see the creation as 'God' spread out in form.
So they not only serve selflessly (to overcome the Ego like in Karma Yoga) they serve out of love and devotion to any aspect of the creation.

Do/did you live Bhakti when you are/were with your kids, in your garden, in nature?

It's always there when your heart widens
because everything is beyond description -

- and every tree seems to smile at you, every insect, every tiny part or every cell of your body... You are aware that life is full of miracles and you're there in awe.


In Bhakti we often find orientation when we address to 'someone', this might be Jesus or some a great Mystic...



Oh yes, they are around... have always been in all cultures...
like points of orientation. Humans are not completely left alone!

But they have to be searched... You have to take the initiative if you want to learn from them.
They don't get involved in worldly things - but grant spiritual freedom.

To mention some of my beloved friends in Heavens:
Anandamayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, Shri Nisargadatta...

(I'm not so familiar with too many but of course there are many more.)

Note: Their verbal teaching might not fit into your life, into your culture.
They talked to their audience at that time.

But if we meet them in our meditation - once we're able to open our heart - the highest qualities will be there for us to learn...

All these spiritual qualities are also inside of us - but it is easier to look into a mirror first.

A little note about this you also find here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8811-Spiritual-Reality&p=94827&viewfull=1#post94827 )

Once this love that is coming from our heart is lifted up to your spiritual love you get in touch with the most precious quality of all.

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During Bakti we are often close to tears. Things touch easily - and the negativity in this world is hard to bear.

(We have to become 'angels', to bear this world and never loose touch with love... Some of these angels are on this Forum...)

Those who stay too long on the level of the personal heart and don't reach spiritual heart often are like little kids, a bit naive, not really on their feet not balancing it with their head...

Then it is time to lift up the concentration to third eye.


Check out your heart:

Have you been able to give love and compassion to the molecules as described here?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16739-Radio-active-matter-Let-s-be-spiritual-Healers

Fine - you are ready for the next step.

If not - come with us anyway.

I wish you a heartfelt day, Sepia

[witchy1]

Yeeeeessssss - exactly *big smile, with moist eyes*

[sepia]

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Please note: The Index in my first post will be adjusted
to simplify the navigation between the posts.

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C. Jnana Yoga: The path of knowledge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jnana_yoga

This is what I teach.
Jnana leads us to a deep understanding on all levels.

All veils slowly desappear.
We are able to see, to know, to perceive, to understand
because this is our very nature.

The spiritual knowledge makes us strong and humble at the same time.


A little example:

I had the privilege to meet Maharaj Charan Singh (1916 - 1990), a perfect spiritual Master in India.
(The only reason I didn't mention him on my little list was because he is not very well known in the west.)

It was a huge audience, several hundred-thousand people. - The Master would walk on stage together with some other people, like a personal Secretary or maybe an Organizer...

These other people - although they were pure souls - had much more masses or surface (I don't know how to explain...) than the Master himself. There was a significant difference:

The Master seemed to be the most humble person of all of us, and still radiating great dignity and at the same time. To experience this is extremely touching...

For most people it is very difficult to recognize spiritual quality.
In our world big Egos are impressive and successful. We are used to recognize Ego-Power and charism - but Spirituality is something completely different...

* * * * * * * *

In Jnana Yoga we concentrate on the third eye. This activates pineal and pituitary gland.

Here is the seat of the consciousness, the best place to be focused during the day.

From here we can look - into the physical body
- into the world, the reality
- or into the astral universes
- and into the spiritual realms.

If the instinctive leves (first, second, third Chakra) feeling-aspect (fourth Chakra) are integrated, we can be at our best in the third eye.

[Loren]

"During Bakti we are often close to tears. Things touch easily - and the negativity in this world is hard to bear.
Those who stay too long on the level of the personal heart and don't reach spiritual heart often are like little kids, a bit naive, not really on their feet not balancing it with their head...
Then it is time to lift up the concentration to third eye". Thank you for this post Sepia . I can personally relate to this at this part of my life.I have had spiritual experiences with the " I Am" meditation that you mentioned. Love & Light. L

[DianeKJ]

I'm here too :hug:

I have many questions popping into my head as I read. I've decided against asking them for now, as I would rather flow in the moment and really open myself up to what you are sharing with us in this space.

Thank you for this~
Di

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Chapter 3: About sleeping and dreaming


It might sound strange but people do very different things while they sleep.

-> not even sleeping is that easy :ohwell:


If your third Eye is open or not makes the main difference.


A. People with a closed third eye...

About 80% of the world population - and probably 0,5% of the Avalonians :) have a closed third eye.

In this case the viewpoint, the focus-point sinks down during sleep and merges with the cells. These people more or less turn into a vegetable during sleep.
(Don't feel offended - it happens to me from time to time as well.)

During the R.E.M. phase they somehow surface and digest emotional issues from their physical lives. This is the original meaning of "dreaming". Means to be caught up in self-made stories.


And dream-analyzers will tell you: It's all you. The tree, the bench, the river, the other person who sits with you on this bench - it's yours because the images come from inside of you.

This might be true or not - I'm not going into this any deeper, this is the Psychologist's job.

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B. People with an open third eye...

As soon as your third eye is open and you start doing spiritual work (in a very broad sense) you will mainly enter astral or spiritual universes while your body sleeps.

The astral Universes somehow press in on you...
while the spiritual ones give you more space and you will only reach them when you aim for them.

(The second is always pleasant so there is no urge to talk about this in detail now.)

Astral beings have their intentions, emotions, problems -
Spiritual beings are loving and don't want to pull or push you. They will always wait for you to express your free decision.

Astral beings often take us into their own cinema - you may like the movie or not.

These are the main types of 'astral movies' that you encounter. Depending from your state of being during the day you will be drawn to a different 'theater' -
(There are exceptions to this as well!)




If you are mainly centered in your first Chakra and this one is hurt:
- then you often have fears about your life, your health, about dying; your existence (Job, house, food, money...) the movie will be all about those issues:

Someone will hunt you - you're standing on a cliff the tiger behind you - someone stole all you possessed - your house is on fire - you loose your job etc.
.

If you are mainly centered in your second Chakra and this one is hurt:
- then you are emotional about belonging to a group, to the family, you would like everybody liking/loving you... You need a lot of reassurance from others...
Or it is about sexuality: Your desires, you attracting others... feelings of being rejected, hurt, abused...

In your dream you might be thrown out of the group, standing alone, nobody loves you, you might even be ridiculed...
Sexuality: Well, I don't have to tell you about any sexual 'movies'... All is possible on astral level. - As long as you enjoy it, all is fine. But there can be a lot of abuse...
.

If you are mainly centered in your third Chakra and this one is hurt:
You are a fighter, sometimes you win - often you loose.
(That's a rule, it's not only about you. If you fight against 10 people only one can win, and all the others want to have their turn as well - sooner or later - maybe in another lifetime. Law of Karma: you will meet your oponent again...)
You are busy to show how brilliant you are. You create a golden surface over you Ego and try to polish it every day.


(Very demanding - better let go of it.
As humans we are never perfect. As beings we have always been and will always be.)

Okay back to topic.
If centered in the third Chakra you will fight even more on astral plane. And believe me, there will always be one stronger than you. Those who don't have bodies fight with different means...



The real solution is the work on the topics of these three Chakras. Once they are enlightened one cannot take you into these cinemas.
This work we will start in the next chapter.


Solutions that I can offer at this moment



Before you go to sleep clean up your day. (You might call it Psycho-Hygienic)

Find love inside of you - or calmness, serenity...

Of course the best is to feel spiritual, unconditional love inside of you.

This changes your vibration in a way that you are no longer detectable for astral beings. -
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Give yourself a program: "I wake up when I'm drawn into an astral cinema!"

Once you wake up, you can then consciously finish your dream.


Remember what Morpheus said to Neo? (MATRIX)

"Some laws can be bent, some can be broken!"


This is it!
Do it in an awake state. This is your training.
Soon you will be able to do it in your dreams (lucid dreaming).
Then it will no longer be necessairy, because you will no longer have this kind of dreams.

- If the tiger is behind you - spread your wings and fly.
- If someone follows you and wants to shoot you - all right - turn around, spread your arms, say: "Do it!" - Be aware that you don't have a physical body to protect. Nothing will happen.
- If you run behind the train - not needed. You can place yourself where you wanted to go right away.


Have fun finishing your dreams in the most pleasant possible way.

[Icecold]

If the tiger is behind you - spread your wings and fly.
- If someone follows you and wants to shoot you - all right - turn around, spread your arms, say: "Do it!" - Be aware that you don't have a physical body to protect. Nothing will happen.
- If you run behind the train - not needed. You can place yourself where you wanted to go right away

I do all these things. I have gotten to a stage where if something like this occurs, I burst out laughing in my dream.

Lucid dreams, the ones I have had are like cinema and bind to memory. They are rare and beautiful lessons.

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It feels appropriate to change the sequence a bit.

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Chapter 4: Chakras: Overview. Personal chakras, astral and spiritual levels.


Our personal Chakras are manifestations within your body
and represent a spiritual or astral quality of consciousness.

This means before these bodies existed an extremely long time ago, or just before we incarnated or after we have left a body, these realms, these universes always exist.
(To be more precise: only the spiritual realms are unperishable...)

Most often 'dead people' will more or less continue to do what they did on earth within the astral spheres - (very similar to what I described above on dreaming.) They just get involved into similar games as they played here on earth.

For those who are longing for love the spiritual spheres might be accessible for a certain time. But all will return as long as attachment are existing as long as there is unsolved Karma.
Karma can have such a strong 'magnetic' force that there is not much choice of where to incarnate...

But all can be solved in this very life.

Free beings also sometimes chose to come back into this game again... -
But more often they choose to offer their love and wisdom and assist all those who want to get free - with no exception. (They are certainly not the ones who punish...)

* * * * * * *

The following model I have created over 10 years ago.
It represents a two-dimensional overview about a complex reality. -
It's just a model not more, not less. But some of the logic becomes obvious.


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Please click to enlarge.
More information here: www.http://ruth-huber.ch/en/basic-principles.html

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Chapter 4 B: How the chakras and the realms relate to eachother

The instinctive Chakras relate to the astral realms:


First Chakra relates to level 7
Second Chakra relates to level 8
Third Chakra relates to level 9


The next three Chakras relate to the spiritual realms, to your higher self


forth Chakra relates to level 10: means the personal love and unconditional love are closely related.
fifth Chakra relates to level 11
sixth Chakra relates to level 12: In the third Eye we have an overview over this level of existence, on level 12 we have the complete spiritual overview.

And here you reach the Essence, the numinous


If we withdraw in the deepest meditation every attachment and lean towards the numinous within us we might be overwhelmed by an indescribable bliss...
and if we allow it we will merge into the numinous...

The "I" will die - for some seconds or minutes or hours - (duration doesn't make any difference).

And we will be 'reborn' knowing who we truly are and where we come from.

[Nortreb]

Marvelous information in sizeable chunks for absorption, Sepia

Thanks for sharing.

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Chapter 4 C: Personal Chakras 1 - 6 in different qualities


Every single Chakra can be enlightened.

But at the beginning of our work they might be in many different states:


The Chakra can be in use (by you) - or not.
It is well possible, that one or even two or three of these tools have not yet been 'taken' by the owner of the body, so there is 'nobody at home'.
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If we have taken the tools, means we are present in a Chakra
- it can still be almost empty - or it can have too much energy -
so we are either in need or in overflow
.
A Chakra can be relaxed or tight
.
Often a Chakra is wounded
.
Sometimes Chakras are overpopulated
which means that other beings have taken a seat in one of the Chakras...
It's better to free these beings and become a proper owner of this body and of all the energetic centers.
(At the moment "freeing beings" cannot be our issue - but by deciding, that you take this body for yourself you are all ready in a stronger situation and get more space.)


My definition of an enlightened Chakra is the following:


We have experienced many different qualities and we found ways to really heal these wounds (not to just brush the issue under the carpet)...
.
...and finally we find yourselves in a balanced or even blissfull, relaxed quality.
We are fully aware of your inner richness and are self-sustaining.

Of course we are social beings and exchange with others on all levels, this is our nature as humans.

But we are not emotionally dependent.

And now it is really time to get practical :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Enlightenment is Wisdom and comes from removing the veils around you...

Like all of our fearful leaders...

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Chapter 5 A: Practical work with the first Chakra

The first Chakra has instinctive Quality:
Survival and existence are the topics here.

It is a male center, willing to fight or flight: The Adrenaline helps us to react by reflex -
only later on we will think also.
Thinking is not first Chakra's task.

Wether a person runs or fights depends from training, age, emotional or mental conditioning...
For some a spider is enough to run for others even a crododile wakes up fighting instincts.
This center is there to protect our body.

During birth this Chakra is definitely active - but should be able to relax later on.

Note: Many people love adrenaline pulsating through their system: I'm not going into this, because it doesn't support spiritual Meditation.


Exercise for the first Chakra

Sit solid on your chair or pillow - and in this body.
As a spiritual being that you are you slip right into this suit.

Inhale into your third eye - hold for some seconds - exhale and visualize the energy running down through your body and into the ground. Repeat until you feel the ground under your feet and the flow of energy through the system. (5 minutes maybe. I prefer short sequences to stay playful.)

Be aware, that the lower part of your body is building a bowl,
fill it with energy, fill it with your presence. (Keep the focus in the third eye.)

If you perceive a relaxed solidness everything is fine.

If it tingles it is in survival-mode and might need some calming work.

Maybe you are able to communicate to this chakra, that it is safe at the moment (I hope you are...) and that you as a being take responsibility.
For the long-term questions of survival you better use your head!

If you say: "This is my body" - "This is my life" - does it ring true? Have you taken it?
Are you willing to look after your body?
Are you willing to take responsibility for your existence?

-> or do you delegate the responsibility? Should others take care?

As far as you are able to do so, you should take this responsibilities yourself.
This is a source of great strength.
This is how you get on your own ground and are no longer standing on someone else's ground.

This center will be quiet and solid when we feel safe.

For every person this means something completely different.
So find out, what you need to feel safe - and still know, that you will die one day.

With my best wishes, Sepia

[NancyV]

C. Jnana Yoga: The path of knowledge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jnana_yoga

This is what I teach.
Jnana leads us to a deep understanding on all levels.

All veils slowly desappear.
We are able to see, to know, to perceive, to understand
because this is our very nature.

The spiritual knowledge makes us strong and humble at the same time.


A little example:

I had the privilege to meet Maharaj Charan Singh (1916 - 1990), a perfect spiritual Master in India.
(The only reason I didn't mention him on my little list was because he is not very well known in the west.)

It was a huge audience, several hundred-thousand people. - The Master would walk on stage together with some other people, like a personal Secretary or maybe an Organizer...

These other people - although they were pure souls - had much more masses or surface (I don't know how to explain...) than the Master himself. There was a significant difference:

The Master seemed to be the most humble person of all of us, and still radiating great dignity and at the same time. To experience this is extremely touching...

For most people it is very difficult to recognize spiritual quality.
In our world big Egos are impressive and successful. We are used to recognize Ego-Power and charism - but Spirituality is something completely different...

* * * * * * * *

In Jnana Yoga we concentrate on the third eye. This activates pineal and pituitary gland.

Here is the seat of the consciousness, the best place to be focused during the day.

From here we can look - into the physical body
- into the world, the reality
- or into the astral universes
- and into the spiritual realms.

If the instinctive leves (first, second, third Chakra) feeling-aspect (fourth Chakra) are integrated, we can be at our best in the third eye.
Charan Singh was a master of Surat Shabd Yoga, the yoga of light and sound. At the time he became master upon the death of the previous master, his grandfather Sawan Singh, there were at least a couple of others who claimed to be the successor of Sawan Singh. One of them was Kirpal Singh. He formed the Ruhani Satsang which became very large worldwide. I was initiated by one of Kirpal's successors, Thakar Singh, in 1980. There were at least 3 who claimed to be Kirpal's successor. It seems there are often several new masters who claim they are the legitimate new master. I would not question who is the master and I don't see why there should not be more than just ONE successor. After all, each of us is a master, although many of us have not yet awakened to our full powers. Even when awakened to spiritual power we must remember the old saying: absolute power corrupts absolutely. I have found that this applies also to spiritual powers. The temptations are great and many or even MOST seemingly humble gurus have often exercised their powers in many less than loving and humble ways.

I practiced Surat Shabd yoga for 7 years and am happy for the experience. It is the practice that led to my being able to leave my body regularly within a couple of months of concentrated meditation, although I know that can be achieved through many types of yoga and other methods of focus... or even spontaneously. We went on tour with the master several times throughout the US and Canada and that was also quite wonderful.

I very much appreciate that you are teaching several different methods, Sepia, and not promoting the idea that we must have a guru or master. As much as I enjoy different masters and gurus I believe that those who state you must have a guru or master (or Jesus) in order to be saved or to evolve spiritually are promoting disempowerment, just as my particular master did. I'm happy that I learned eventually that a master is NOT necessary and can be a trap, just as many things and beings on the astral, mental, causal and other dimensions are also traps.

But this is part of the awesome FUN of the game and process of enlightenment! It is quite challenging at every step along the way even after you find your way into the other dimensions. I have been caught in many traps and appreciated every minute of it. Now I don't get stuck much anymore but I must be constantly vigilant so I don't fool myself, which makes me laugh. I would never find this journey to be boring. Universal love is exciting, not passive but passionate. Even when merging with the Source I find it to be not only passion (or active vibration) but also peace. It is all potential vibrating within universal love.

Nancy :)

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Chapter 5 A: Addendum to the first Chakra

Fear is the emotion that belongs to the first Chakra.

Please note: Greed is not the right answer to fear.

Greed has been the driving force for a lot of destruction happening on this planet
and is createing tremendous suffering specially for the third world countries.

It is desirable to lead a simple and truthful life which (once multiplied thousands of times) would significantly improve the quality of this planet.

The first Chakra can learn to feel safe, once we realize

> the impermanence of the incarnated life and
> the permanence of spiritual existence.

Then fear can be transformed into trust.

(Thank you Ilie for the help.)

[Ilie Pandia]

Perhaps the word you are looking for is "trust": "Then fear can be transformed into trust" ?

And a quick question: how can we teach the first Chakra to feel safe? (realizing the permanence of spiritual existence makes sense but how do we do that :)?)

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My answer to Nancy, Part 1

Thank you very much for your eloquent statement.


Charan Singh was a master of Surat Shabd Yoga, the yoga of light and sound. At the time he became master upon the death of the previous master, his grandfather Sawan Singh, there were at least a couple of others who claimed to be the successor of Sawan Singh. One of them was Kirpal Singh. He formed the Ruhani Satsang which became very large worldwide. I was initiated by one of Kirpal's successors, Thakar Singh, in 1980. There were at least 3 who claimed to be Kirpal's successor. It seems there are often several new masters who claim they are the legitimate new master.

I was aware of the split that happened after Sawan Singh, and was convinced to be at the right address (for me) with Charen Singh.
This inner path I did with him was perfect for me - might not have been perfect for each and every one - but after 4 years of consequently following his teaching I reached what I wanted to.
All the learning about astral things I did after this -

but first it was essential to find back to my divine quality inside.

And I did this with his guidance.


I would not question who is the master and I don't see why there should not be more than just ONE successor. After all, each of us is a master, although many of us have not yet awakened to our full powers.

A huge amount of all the things we do we have learnt from others, either because we say:


"Ah, this is great, I want to learn this as well!" -
.
Or: "Oh no, I don't want to act like that person does, because..." - any reasons.
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And sometimes the bizarre thing happens, that we dislike something that we see an other person doing, and after some weeks of watching we start to unconsciously imitate it. :)

.

And in this vast field called "spirituality" a companion comes really handy :)

How ever:
I made the choice to get initiation from this Master, and finished this task after 4 years.

I no longer see myself as a disciple.

I took my responsibilities back to myself. But he is one of my best friends on spiritual realm -
some other mystics are as well.
I meet them on level 12 (see my graphic earlier on this thread) sometimes they are my 'tuning fork' - sometimes we just enjoy each others company... and learn... and experience... no words, no language but direct communication.

All the 'so called Gurus' cannot be found on spiritual levels. Those who live out there powers (corrupted or not doesn't even make a difference, it just pulls or pushes in different directions), who bring their ego-intentions and personal opinions into the game are all acting in the astral spheres and their 'vibration' is too dense to enter spiritual spheres.

Spirituality is something completely different.

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My answer to Nancy, Part 2


Even when awakened to spiritual power we must remember the old saying: absolute power corrupts absolutely. I have found that this applies also to spiritual powers. The temptations are great and many or even MOST seemingly humble gurus have often exercised their powers in many less than loving and humble ways.

This is certainly true. - None of this corruption I have ever seen around Charan Singh. -
Once during time of political vote political people visited him. - He told, that people sometimes use this for claiming their own spirituality... - but that he only cares about the soul, and that he doesn't take any political stand what so ever.

He looked at himself as a visitor on this planet, who offers his hand to those who wanted to become spiritually free. He had absolutely no intentions to use his powers.


I practiced Surat Shabd yoga for 7 years and am happy for the experience. It is the practice that led to my being able to leave my body regularly within a couple of months of concentrated meditation, although I know that can be achieved through many types of yoga and other methods of focus... or even spontaneously. We went on tour with the master several times throughout the US and Canada and that was also quite wonderful.

I very much appreciate that you are teaching several different methods, Sepia, and not promoting the idea that we must have a guru or master.

To get initiated was crucial in my life. - This has to do with some past life experiences. The spiritual journey and the research on Consciousness was the main-topic in this lifetime.


As much as I enjoy different masters and gurus I believe that those who state you must have a guru or master (or Jesus) in order to be saved or to evolve spiritually are promoting disempowerment, just as my particular master did. I'm happy that I learned eventually that a master is NOT necessary and can be a trap, just as many things and beings on the astral, mental, causal and other dimensions are also traps.

Well - this Universe, the wheel of death and reincarnation is extremely well protected.

And the astral forces are extremely strong - we both know that. -

Sometimes they are overwhelming ... I've gone through dark persiods of times, when my space was overpopulated by beings, nothing else in their mind then making me insane and taking me out of the game.

To have a hand to hold on to during these times is more important than anything else.

This is what I have gone through and this is what I offer today.

(I have done this for aeons - and after a 3000 year journey on this planet I'm back there again.)

Power? Corrupted?

No. I don't use power. It's love and knowledge. -
I had good examples to learn from. Charan Singh was one of them.

- Saving the world? No. It's not my job.
- Saving souls - means reaching out and supporting those who want to become spiritually free? A L W A Y S .

Every single one. Even criminals, even Reptilians, who ever comes and needs spiritual help.

(This is the work I telepathically do at night - as many others do as well.
It's free of charge :) No address to send a bill to. )

Those beings who seem to be dark, are angry, destructive, suppressing, manipulating...
because they have gone through all of this themselves.

And each and everyone deserves to exprience who they are,
so that they are able to lovingly solve their karma
and get free.

This is the work of a Master. And this is why Masters are needed.


With my love to all, Sepia

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And a quick question: how can we teach the first Chakra to feel safe? (realizing the permanence of spiritual existence makes sense but how do we do that :)?)

My answer hopefully will make you smile:

You see, all the personal Chakras are like an internal family -

or with other words: These tools that they are in this body can be looked at like a familiy.


Our 2 Chakra has the characteristics of a little girl, wants to lean on to someone strong, can easily fall into a victim-state and complain - but can be lovely, charming, playfully singing and dancing...
.
Our 3 Chakra has the characteristics of a little boy: sometimes angry, fighting, using words, taking an emotional stand - or will learn to positively use it's strength and power.
.
Our 4 Chakra has the characteristics of 'the' mother: (archetypically seen) let me go into this a little later.
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Our 5 Chakra has the characteristics of 'the' father: (archetypically seen) let me go into this a little later.
.
So the answer to your question:

Our first Chakra represents part of the instinct - so it could be seen as your dog.

- I hope you love dogs.

So: Here is the internal family with the dog - and we are spiritual beings.

And as spiritual beings we are the ones who take care.

We keep this family in good shape, heal the wounds, fill the chakras with our essence so that they can be at their best.
And as a spiritual being you communicate to the fear, imagine to take it in your arms, comforting, knowing much more than your 'dog' -

Try it... you will be surprised :)

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Chapter 5 B: Practical work with the second Chakra

It is a female center, situated between pubic bone and navel and part of the Instinct-triad:


1 Chakra: Physical survival
2 Chakra: Emotional survival and sexuality, Symbioses
3 Chakra: Getting a safe space, a safe playing field.



The perfect scene for this Chakra:

A newborn baby well fed and soundly sleeping in its Mother's arms.

The water-element which is the ruler of this center, always searches its vessel and like the rain rushing over the street it mixes with all what is there.

To prevent to get lost in the 'soup of emotions around us' it's advisable to keep the water-element within the lower part of body.

Often sexual desire is projected on to others. Please note that this is felt and might not be welcomed out there.


Different states of the second Chakra:



Chakra not in use: Sensuality is missing, sexuality has an almost technical quality.
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The Chakra has not enough energy and/or is wounded:
The constant hunger for acceptance makes this person most seducible.
One nice word, the right kind of compliment and this person is yours, ready to be manipulated :ohwell:

For a person with a needy second Chakra the definition is:

> "Only if you love me...
> "Only if you admire what I am or what I do...
> "Only if I feel your sexual desire for me... I can allow myself to be, to exist."
.
The Chakra has too much energy: Most probable this person will be over-sexualized.

.
The Chakra is filled with energy, is relaxed and happy -
which is enlightenment on this level.
Sensuality will be well integrated:
It is a sensual pleasure to smell, taste, see, touch or hear...
.
Healthy self-acceptance and self-esteem.
This person is not emotionally depending from other peoples smile and complement.


An enlightened second Chakra is the source of a constant, very pure childlike joy, that comes along with everything we do.
.

On the other hand the "victim-state" is well known
and is the result of a desperate second Chakra.
To heal it is the really hard lesson.

Exercise for the second Chakra

Sit straight or lay down and put your hands on your belly (below the navel),
feel the movement of the breath under your hands.

Become aware of this bowl that the lower part of your body is building,
and bring your water-element / the second-Chakra-Energy
back from the world and from other people into your belly.

Bring back your tentakles - if you have them going to your kids, to your friends, to your beloved.

Can you give yourself what you expect from them?

Are you able to be your best friend? Yes, try to be your best friend!


It is simple after a day of success, when things worked out great... you will congratulate yourself.

But being your best friend is even more important, if something went wrong or if somebody has criticized you.
Treat yourself well, you need it. (Don't depend from others.)
Find the things that can be changed... but than imagine that you 'put your arm around your shoulders' as you would do to your best friend, knowing:
"It is okay to make mistakes. We don't need to be perfect. I'm not gonna stab myself into the back."


As soon as you stop criticizing yourself your lower belly will relax and your intestines and other organs will work much better.

Already heard the happy gurgle of the intestines?

Bring the water back to your belly. That's how we become whole - instead of being half of a relationship.

'Meeting' is better than 'mixing'!

I wish you a happy belly, Sepia

[lightblue]

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sounds like chakra user manual...

wonder which chakra is responsible for our good hair and nails?



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.
sounds like chakra user manual...
wonder which chakra is responsible for our good hair and nails?
.

Yes, that's what it is, dear lightblue, a seminar.

And you are welcome to take part in it.

I work hard to make it practical and useful - but fingernails and hair are not on my program.

Sepia :)

[lightblue]

sepia:
As soon as you stop criticizing yourself your lower belly will relax and your intestines and other organs will work much better.

Already heard the happy gurgle of the intestines?

Bring the water back to your belly. That's how we become whole - instead of being half of a relationship.

'Meeting' is better than 'mixing'!

I wish you a happy belly, Sepia


sepia:
Yes, that's what it is, dear lightblue, a seminar.

And you are welcome to take part in it.

I work hard to make it practical and useful - but fingernails and hair are not on my program.

Sepia

i thought the sum and interaction of both our biological and energy centres (chakras) may result in sets of symptoms indicating either balanced or disbalanced interaction between the two....i thought my miserably peforming nails may be an early indication of one such disbalance...is it not so?

bestest wishes l

.

.

[Hughe]

The original one I learned have systematic Chakra manipulation (?). I stopped dealing with Chakra. The Zen meditation from Buddhism doesn't deal with complex Chakra nor life energy stuff, it does only focus on consciousness part.

I do meditate because it makes me feel good. Meditation changes you slowly. The best thing of meditation is you will embrace unknown, and have deeper insight yourself. Once you gain this, the fear of death are pretty much gone by the time. I haven't experienced of interacting with non-physical entities yet. The intention or desire becomes big part of advanced meditation. You like crazy stuff, eventually you will attract those beings.

I write down the list of good symptoms here.


Body gets warm.
Certain body part, especially plugged nose is loosened.
Body becomes relaxed.
When you feel heavy, esp. head, the heaviness dissolved.
Feel the flow of energy from nostril to lower abdominal.
The breath property turns into liquid. My method is to focus on breath. That's why it happens.
Various cool sensations: almost identical at high on drug, sexual orgasm
The head skin becomes twinkling like dropping cold water on the skin. Most of times, the sensation propagates over whole body.
The skin feels the cool breeze all over. This intensity gets stronger as one goes further.
Easy the digestion, it breaks wind often.
Feel the flow of energy around the body in and out. You feel you are n the water.
Multiple awareness. The consciousness separates two or three. One monitors the body. Second one contemplates a thought. Third one might receives or view past memory.
The greatest sensation of all, one day you instantly loose the sense of physical existence and becomes oneness.


I disagree with some of parts. In general, it explains most symptoms that human experiences as meditation progresses. 'Hallucination effects' at advanced level? I gotta laugh at this attitude. A fine example of established meditation organization's mind set. "It's just an exercise nothing more."



http://www.sundousa.org/

Certain transformations in body and mind are supposed to happen for those who practice regularly.

Normal changes are the purpose of practice, but some abnormal change could occur if the practitioner does not follow the instructions exactly.



Normal changes:

- feeling refreshed

- feeling light and flexible

- feeling hunger easily; effective digestion; passing gas & belching

- sweat on the hands and feet

- easy excretion

- normalized heart beat

- recovery from disease

- feeling heat at the Danjeon for those who with Yin energy

- feeling cold and/or diarrhea for those who with Yang energy

- feeling slight vibration in body

Abnormal changes:

- pain in diaphragm

- heavy feeling at stomach area

- headaches

- eye fatigue

- overall fatigue

Other changes

- disease could become worse before being healed by the natural force of Ki

- people with high blood pressure should avoid performing headstands and certain other exercises

Normal changes at the Advanced Level

- recovery from disease

- grey hair turning black again

- skin blotches disappearing

- skin becoming healthier

- weight problem resolved as weight becomes normalized

- feelings of powerful physical strength

- feeling peaceful and balanced

- becoming generous and sincere

Abnormal changes at the Advanced Level

- experiencing visual and auditory hallucinations

This psychic phenomenon happens due to the intense focus of the mind during practice. Practitioners should be careful not to be misled by these phenomena and should consult with instructors.

[lightblue]

hughe
The original one I learned have systematic Chakra manipulation (?). I stopped dealing with Chakra. The Zen meditation from Buddhism doesn't deal with complex Chakra nor life energy stuff, it does only focus on consciousness part.

the above approach agrees with a lot of sense in me...

i think it's not about doing what you know, but about knowing what you do... :wink: l

.

[sepia]

I do meditate because it makes me feel good. Meditation changes you slowly.

Everybody is free to choose.

It all depends from your goals.

I personally have a high appreciation for honest work on oneself.

This will make it much easier to embrace your spiritual qualities.

"Feeling good" is just a too small Universe for me.

This can be a question of age :)

[sepia]

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Chapter 5 C: Practical work with the third Chakra, Solar Plexus


The third Chakra, Solar Plexus is located between the navel and the breastbone,
and is the last one of the instinctive Triad. Element: Fire, male quality.


After the baby has slept in its Mother's arm long enough (Water-Element)
it's the Fire-Element's turn:

The baby pushes itself away from the Mother
to get more space and starts looking around.


The fire-element influences the eyes:
If you have a lot of fire, your tendency will be to get angry easily
- and most probably you will be farsighted.
With weak fire-element you're tending towards sadness
- and most probably are nearsighted.


The Solar Plexus is a very important turning point on our journey
and is often underestimated or criticized for its edginess.
Sometimes it is unpleasant to be around people who struggles on this level, but:

Third Chakra struggles could be seen as birth-signs of the personality. :)

Fire is needed for a little kid to say NO when the Mother sais Yes.
During adolescence it's needed to say: "This is my life. I do what I want. I decide myself."
And it is this power that enforces emotional decisions so we are able to say: "I", "Me", "No...", "No more!"

If a jung adult is courageous enough to take this power, to take a standpoint which is different to what the parents say, to make decisions just for themselves, they are able to take their life and make it their own.

The fire-element enables us to leave the herd of sheep.

(So we can assume that we find many strong Solar-People on this Forum.)


Different states of the third Chakra:


The Chakra not in use: This person is not able to take a stand and is weak in conflicts.
.
The Chakra has not enough energy: Often these people stay quiet for too long and then suddenly explode... and feel extremely guilty afterwards.
.
The Chakra has too much energy - Choleric temperament: Too loud, too hard, too self-centered. A Solar-Plexus like a mine-field, explosions happen on a daily base.
(Even worse if mixed with alcohol.)
.

If anger is lived out without control we can expect that there are also some angry beings sitting in the Chakras who enforce the anger - happy to be able to express their own emotions. This is the case, if someone sais: "I don't know, what came over me, I completely lost control. I don't even remember what I said or did.

If the Chakra is worked through: This person has learned to control the fire and is no longer controlled by the fire. 

.
Enlightened Solar Plexus: The power of the Solar Plexus most of the time has a very gentle quality and has become the servant of the heart and the third eye.

We could imagine a black-belt martial art person, who knows how fast and how effective he is. He can relax and be very loving - there is still enough time to get up if there is trouble around.
He uses his power for defence, but never for attack.
.

Remember what Luke Skywalker had to learn: Never let the anger rule your fight!
(My words, I saw the movie in German.)

Once we have mastered our aggression, very seldom someone else will act aggressivly against us. Even animals and little kids love this kind of gentle fire.
A solid ground for lots of love.


Excessive fire
-> can be balanced by Sports.
-> Fresh cold water, cucumbers, melons, lemon, oranges, peppermint etc. cool your fire down.

To heat the fire use hot spices (cinnamon, pepper, ginger...), Carbohydrates...
(Caffein if your body allows it.)

(Ayurveda and chinese medicine give much more precise descriptions.)

----

If we can trust our ability to say NO will be able to open up the heart to say Yes.


Embrace your Power!

Love, Sepia

[sepia]

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Chapter 5 D: Practical work with the fourth Chakra, the heart.


Element: air - female quality - the archetypical mother
Feeling: compassion
Challenge: to let go of attachments and pride.

Yes I know, it all looks like 'the hard way' -

It is important to know, that our prison-planet is highly protected. The net is very fine, a 'cheap' escape is not possible. 'Feeling good' is not enough to get free.

We have to become what we are: free spiritual beings.

And this is not an easy task.

As long as the instinctive Chakras (1 - 3) are not worked through, the frequency of our consciousness is very dense and will keep us within the astral spheres. We stay vulnerable and deceivable unless we have cleared these issues.

(Greed, anger, hate, narcissistic pride, egotism, delegating responsibilities, holding on to lies... there are many aspects that might need healing.)

On a truthful ground of balanced instinctive Chakras (1-3) we are ready for a new Chapter. -


In the heart the most important opening and transformation can take place .


The heart is sensitive and tender by nature - and we all have been hurt...
Loosing friends, being let down or betrayed, being lied at is part of life on this planet.
This kind of pain can be an important motivation on our spiritual journey:


- At first there is pain, we see ourselves as victims.
- Than we start to lean towards our higher self and learn that we ARE loved, always.
- We allow our hearts to be filled and learn to fully embrace ourselves...
- no longer expecting the healing from others (they are busy with themselves.).
- And finally we learn, that compassion allows us to be tender and strong at the same time
- like the archetypical Mother.



Perferctly nurtured by our very essence
the heart is overflowing into the world and never gets empty.

If you are able to heal your heart the connection to the higher self
will be the most truthful aspect in this world and in the next.
Everything changes once you are connected to this pure quality.


The heart in different states:



Some people over-compensate:
They act out of an empty heart, do many good things, hoping to get from others what is missing inside. Their smile might seem sweet - but there is still the emptiness underneath.
- Very sad to see... All this longing...

The world will never heal these hearts - the nurturing source is inside.
.
Some have overflowing heart energy
and are compulsively giving 'love'.
This can be difficult to bear and often drives people away...

Giving and taking should somehow be in balance.
We're not doing anybody a favor by giving too much.
(Situations are different, so 'too much' also means different things.),
and we are not doing ourselves a favor by taking too much.
Everything has its prize... doesn't have to be money.
.
Some have covered their heart with a thick layer of concrete.
They decided never to suffer again from this horrible heart-pain they expierenced earlier - usually before this lifetime.
Some would even prefer to die - or to kill - just to prevent the suffering.
(Being loved makes their concrete crumble and brings them in danger to feel...)


When I was young my question always was: 'Do I love enough?'
Only later I learned another important question:
'How much love is the other person able to accept?'

Some have healed all the wounds and have reached enlightenment of the heart.
.
A lot of courage is needed and many tears are shed until we are able to truly forgive and ask for forgiveness. - We have to go very close and feel the pain and agony from the killed, tortured, neglected... the suffering of the animals, plants and even matter.
(as I described here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16739-Radio-active-matter-Let-s-be-spiritual-Healers)

This whole process will transform our personality.

We will change - and our quality of love will change.

.
No, it is not specially exciting. We go step by step.
No there is no magic trick.
And no, it's most likely nothing that we do in a weekend-seminar.
It's no technique, it's love. And it only works if it is true and honest.


It is a high prize - but it's the start to spiritual freedom.

With all my compassion, Sepia

(I wished it was easier - I might have lost all my readers now...)

[Jetsam]

[...]

(I wished it was easier - I might have lost all my readers now...)[...]

No! not at all, this is very inspiring.
I would say enlightening, but that's a bit obvious...

Thank you very much.

[Lifesong]

Thank you, Sepia...still here, still learning. :)

[greybeard]

Your doing great Sepia my friend.
Your teaching is clear and concise.
Thousands are reading --- count the visits.
If enlightenment was effortless we would all be in that state.
Namaste

[Bill Ryan]

Your doing great Sepia my friend.
Your teaching is clear and concise.
Thousands are reading --- count the visits.
If enlightenment was effortless we would all be in that state.
Namaste

That's correct. The thread has had 3,000 views, many by non-member guests.

This is exactly what the forum is for - for members with significant personal experience in a wide range of issues and questions, important for our times, to share, teach, and dialog.

The forum now has a reputation for leading-edge 'alternative' thinking, discussion and presentation. My thanks again to sepia for all her contributions, and to the many others of you who also add value to this community every day.

[Muzz]

Hi Sepia
Many thanks for this thread. I am a novice in the Spirituallity side of things and have only just started simple meditaing. This thread is a big help and I really appreciate the time and effort you are putting into it. It is user friendly for people like myself who understand the importance of spirituallty in thier life but unsure how to put it into practice. I feel like im bumbling around in the dark sometimes but you and others on the forum like greybeard and inelia et al are a great help.

Love
Muzz

[sepia]

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:) Thank you for bearing with me.


... some sweets for today:


I was young - it was springtime - and I was badly in love...

My heart was singing - and the birds answered...

blossoming trees have never been more beautiful...

the flowers in the gardens were awesome and the air vibrated...

----

One year later I was not in love - and springtime wasn't the same.

So my question was:

Can I only be in love, when someone out there seems great and adorable?
Why am I so dependent...?

And doors opened inside: I fell in love with love.


* * * * * *

It's the purest love I'm talking about...

* * * * * *

Let's say the creation is like a foam-bath -
It's this love - this very essence - which fills the bubbles.

The soap, which creates the surface is physical matter - (conscious too - but more solid.)

Only a little soap is needed - but a lot of air (love) to create the foam.

Best wishes, Sepia

[Hiram]

Brilliant.

I couldn't have come up with a better metaphor myself.

Until you know...you realize the air is there...

You only see the bubbles. But Once you notice the air....

it's ALL you see.

[greybeard]

The love of Creator is in the "empty" space of every atom.

the field of consciousness in which everything appears, thats what we are.

You put the Truth beautifully Sepia, all credit to you.
Long may you enjoy the foam bath.

Chris

Namaste

[sepia]

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Chapter 5 E: Practical work with the fifth Chakra, the throat

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The fifth Chakra is located at the throat, and has a male quality
Element: Akasha, Ether (actually it is consciousness); all the four elements come together,
four pieces that build a round cake: earth, water, fire, air.
Each of the 'fragments' also stands for an emotion - but Akasha is not emotional.

Here is the archetypical father: rational, creative, outgoing, solution-oriented...


The akasha - element manifesteds in many different ways:

If we look through this 'window' into the world we are able to see very clearly.

If centered here we are rational: so we are able to analyze and to come to conclusions.

The fifth Chakra can be sharp like a sword - so we are able to make clear decisions.

Akasha allows us to create unusual, surprising, great visions...

There is playfulnes, lightness and so we are able to find solutions for all kinds of challenges.

If we have learned to use this tool we are practical enough to manifest things according to our visions: build a fountain, write a book…

We find ways to communicate, verbally and nonverbally.


So all this means: We can be really good in many things.

And right there is the biggest danger:

Once we have realised 'how great we are' our Ego might start to grow enormously. - Some people always want to be in the brightest light on stage, and want to get all the admiration and all the awards.

...and get more and more lonely,
because they are surrounded by fans and followers but don't have friends.

This is a 'famous' trap... and spirituality silently disappears behind the horizon....


Questions for the fifth Chakra:

If you have a tendency for bad throat, ask yourself:

Is there anything I don't analyze clearly? (Am I affraid to do so because I would have to change my life?)
.
Have I already seen and understood - but I hesitate to take the consequences?
(For instance we stay too long in a bad relationship because we fear loneliness…)
.
Is something ready to be communicated but I don't dare to do so?
(Sometimes we prefere to stay silent because we fear to hurt the other person… but by doing so we stop growth.)
.
Is the creativity blocked? Am I in need of a new and positive vision for the future?
(Very often talking to others helps: Other people, other ideas!)



Different states of the fifth Chakra:


The Chakra is not in use:
May be the Solar Plexus takes the male function, and so this person is emotional and acting like a stubbern little boy.
Or if the Solar is also weak and both of these important male qualities are missing, decisions cannot be made, clear focus is not possible.
.
The Chakra has not enough energy:
These people have little trust into the qualities mentioned above.
They mistrust their perseption and their ability to differentiate. They even are affraid to differentiate, because they think it is the same as judging. So they take themselves back, don't say much (it could be wrong…)

(If this is you: find someone who gives you honest feedback and is able to encourage you.)
.
The Chakra has too much energy:
This people are sharp and clear, quickly criticize and definitely 'know' how things have to be done… There is only one right way... so they believe!
They constantly teach, if asked or not and permanently prove that they are and know better than others.
Too sharp, too hard, too self-centered. 

Very similar to the third Charkra but more adult, sharp but not emotional.
.
If the Chakra is worked through: This person knows many things and is practical enough to manifest.
.
Enlightened throat Chakra: It is fully developed but is the servant of the third eye… It adds something to a discussion if it is the 'right' moment and a crucial thing which might had been forgotten otherwise - but not to prove how extraordinary one is. -
So this fifth Ch. doesn't really stick out but every now and then adds something which changes the course of things - like pushing a wheel in the exact right moment, effortlessly.



Since here is the biggest danger to get lost in self-pleasing egotisme,

it is highly important that the fifth Chakra has its roots in the heart (compassion)

and is serving the third eye, which has (in the best case) a wise overview.


Heart and throat Chakra give a very good team.

The heart on its own can sometimes be a bit silly *- to be smart is not it's job :)
and the throat on its own can be hard and selfish.
Together they can be really great. 




Best wishes, Sepia

*Footnote: I'm talking about the fourth Chakra in its personal quality; the spritual heart will be described later.

[sepia]

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Chapter 5 F: The sixth Chakra, the third Eye

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The third Eye is located between your ears…

somewhere in the middle of your head - and not at your forehead.

It can move backward or forward, or upwards and downwards a bit,
specially if you just start concentrating here.
'Sit into' your third eye - and always find the position where you feel most comfortable.
(Please compare Post 5)

Here is the first connection-point once we enter this body as a soul-being.

Most often the third eye closes down soon...
Astral forces often give children a hard time, frighten them at night, so they feel small and helpless, forget their spiritually and shut down... The more light these children bring, the more threat they have to confront.
(With necessary spiritual knowledge these children can be supported...)


The third eye cannot be compared to any other Chakra:


It is neither male nor female.
It is not emotional.
We could say it is Akasha-Element,
- but I prefere to compare it with pure light
- and in this analogy the other Chakras can be seen as colors of the rainbow.
It's the place of wisdom.
It's the doorway to highest spirituality.


:) Sepia

[sepia]

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Third Eye:


Most people start by internally looking to the third eye.
But at some point this changes, and you are at this spot looking from there.

Then you decide if you want to look into your body, into the world or into the astral or spiritual spheres.

(The position of the viewpoint could also be moved outside of the body
- but I would like to talk about this later.)



Different states of the third Eye:



The third eye is closed and with this the doorway to spirituality.
People operate through the lower chakras, and easily get lost in the up and down of there emotions, their attachments or projects and assume that this is what life is all about.
.
The third eye is cut off from the lower Chakras:
Often these people are only in touch with their intellect. We see this in that kind of scientific thinking which is far away from any spiritual truth.
.
The third eye is connected to all the other Chakras:
So each Chakra is part of the team and shares it's experience and understanding. The third eye can be seen as the captain. And with all this support he can really be wise.
.
Enlightened third eye:

This is only possible, when each of the other Chakras is also enlightened.

Enlightenment for the personal Chakras means:

- The broad scale of characteristics of a Chakra are experienced.
We have experienced the 'too little' and the 'too much' and have gone through Thesis and Antithesis.
.
- We have learned to reach Synthesis, which is always more than Thesis and Antithesis together.
.
- We have taken all our tentacles back with which we were holding on to others and were delegating responsibilities.
.
We live a truthful, simple life - meaning we're not aiming for Ego power...

If this lifestyle would be multiplied the world would be a better place.

- We are all relaxed, fulfilled in all centers and - 'happy' - - - lack of another word...

So here we have reached the Middle-Station, so to speak :)


----

In Meditation, when we pass the doorway of the third eye -
it happens that we find ourselves out there in a vast universe, not knowing where to aim to.
It can be a tremendously frightening experience -

I would love to give more guidance through the astral and spiritual realms in the chapters to come.


Best wishes, Sepia :)

[butcherman]

definitely ready for the next bit Sepia had a 1/2 dozen obes one showing off to people in a park one hovering and flying dive booming neer to the park area the other was o vision laying in the same field clear as day manny ships in the sky 100s i tried to move exeptance peacetime over me a knowledge of this was a war zone a scuba diving mate gave me a book of dreams with the sky ship battle field in it to date this is the first time i have discus this with any one who mite understand

[sepia]

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Chapter 6: Astral Spheres, Introduction

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The astral Spheres are extremely controversial:

For some they are paradise - for others they are hell.

Let me clearly state here, that all my work aims for spiritual freedom and enlightenment.

The purely spiritual levels are 10 / 11 / 12 and of course the numinous,

as shown here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17056-Enlightenment-Practical-steps&p=187281&viewfull=1#post187281


The astral spheres (7 / 8 / 9) offer endless temptations... and when we dive into these experiences we quickly forget the spiritual truth.

Those who feel weak or helpless here on earth most often have the desire for astral power... for astral means.
To be able to act from behind the scenes seems irresistible for most of the people and beings. It makes them feel powerful, special, superior...

They are convinced that they work for the light - and those on the other side are the bad guys.

But most probable it looks exactly the other way around from the other side.

Black magic - white magic? A question of viewpoint.

If you are spiritual you don't use magic at all.



In the coming Chapters I'll describe different aspects of the three astral planes -

One could compare them to layers of clouds that your airplane has to leave behind before it can travel in clear sunlight.

We cannot ignore them - but certainly it is helpful to know the rules so that we don't get lost in these spheres.

* * * * * * *

All the dangers of these temptations are more obvious to those who recall having experienced different games within the astrals or who have already gone this road of using these means... (which I have done in one of my previous incarnations.).


So be prepared for an interesting ride...

Love, Sepia

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Thank you, sepia, for these posts. I sit tonight with a sore throat, having totally lost my voice! As I re-read your words on the throat chakra I see the truth shining out too bright to miss. Now I must find the courage and strength to move out of a relationship that is stagnant and find a kind way to say the words of separation. Your wisdom is appreciated. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Namaste.

[sepia]

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Chapter 7: Lowest astral level, upper octave from the first Chakra, Level 7

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On level 7 we are very close to matter - just beside it - so to speak.

Those who act on this level mostly do it with the intention to influence matter
or to interact with the physical universe.

Many dead people cling onto their bodies or onto the things they possessed, because that is all they 'have'.


They haven't learned to perceive themselves as spiritual beings and so they don't 'exist' as such.
.
Lost souls who can only hold on to matter.



Once I was asked to free a wealthy woman who died in an accident...
I found her between her rich collection of expensive dresses... - Finally she agreed to come with me into the spiritual spheres where she could have realized what a divine being she once had been... I did my best, but she wasn't really interested and a few weeks later I found her back again between her dresses (actually it was just her memory of them - because the real ones were no longer there).



If the identification with the physical body is not freed, the dead people



will stay in the hospital, where the body died
.
might return to the house of their childhood
.
if they believed that eternal life means to live within the children they cling onto their childrens body...
This can bring suffering to a whole family.
And in our culture not many know how to communicate with the dead...
.
some learn to move objects, give a feeling of a cold breeze to those still alive, move candlelights... (Poltergeist)
.
They are lost and so desperate that the most important thing for them is that someone sees them.


So do them a favor and tell them:

"I see you! - But you are dead.
Do you remember how your body died? -
You're no longer belonging to our world.
Leave your body behind - you will have a different one, if you ever come again."

(I will continue this communication with the dead in each of the following chapters.)



Techniques belonging to this level:



.
'Traveling' is possible on all astral levels.
.
On level 7 you travel with heavy luggage. You somehow 'role' out of your body, take a lot of your 'energy' with you, and therefore can make yourself seen or can even touch people in a way they think you are physically present.
.
Diagnosis: It needs some practice, but then you will be able to see into the physical body: sliped disks, stones...
This is a very natural ability which every good physio- or massage-Therapist develops. The information just very naturally comes - one could call it intuition.
.
If you start 'receiving' information from astral beings it is a different story because it'll make you dependent. Not recommendable.
.
Operations, like practiced by the Philippines and others... (a question of preference. One of the famous healers once said: This method was set up for our people. They like to see blood...)
.
Certain kind of healing: You are able to move energy with your willpower, to make pain go away using your intention. (Not recommendable.)
.
The kind of clairvoyance which concentrates on matter: finding keys, important papers...
.
If a persons energy very much vibrates on this level the physical matter starts to react: Lightbulbs explode, glasses break without being touched, electric devices start or stop out of the blue. - And if your Computer starts to react you really get into trouble...

.
The energetic quality from level 7 is really coarse -
.
I wouldn't recommend to train these things - it's just not worth it.
These abilities have no spiritual value at all and most likely will bring you into a lot of (karmic) trouble.

If we use this power to 'heal' other people, we have to know, that the same amount of energy will also come back like a pendulum that swings back.

With other words you are going to pay a very high prize...

There are more valuable things to come :)

Best wishes, Sepia

[sepia]

Thank you, sepia, for these posts. I sit tonight with a sore throat, having totally lost my voice! As I re-read your words on the throat chakra I see the truth shining out too bright to miss. Now I must find the courage and strength to move out of a relationship that is stagnant and find a kind way to say the words of separation. Your wisdom is appreciated. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Namaste.

Dear ahamkara

I'm very happy that you got support from this teaching.

Most of us probably know how painful it is to leave a relationship behind - but your body has given you the signals.
Often it takes a lot of courage... but every decision towards our inner truth brings great rewards.

Best wishes :kiss: Sepia

[thunder24]

Sepia, If I can with willpower make pain leave my own body, is this not recommendable?
And if I willfully direct energy to the cells of my body to heal is this not recommendable?
How do I know if I'm really hurt or its a beating from one's thoughts or unseen entity?
If its about perspective in the context of black or white magic, and if your spiritual you don't use magic, then what do you use?
thanks and peace

[sepia]

Sepia, If I can with willpower make pain leave my own body, is this not recommendable?


Exactly right: not recommendable.


And if I willfully direct energy to the cells of my body to heal is this not recommendable?

You might be able to make symptoms disappear when you direct energy to your cells,
but you will not heal them.


How do I know if I'm really hurt or its a beating from one's thoughts or unseen entity?

I can say: Your higher Self knows.
But this answer might not yet be very helpful. I will come to that point later.


If its about perspective in the context of black or white magic, and if your spiritual you don't use magic, then what do you use?
thanks and peace

Spiritual knowledge, love and compassion is all we need.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Astral and traditional medical treatments most often start with a NO:


There are bacteries - we don't want them - we kill them.
There is pain - we don't want it - we take painkiller (what an appropriate name...)
There is a tumor - we don't want it - we cut it out.
There is depression - we don't want it - we take the drugs as anesthesia.
etc.



Healing :) actually means to heal something and not to push it out, ban it or kill it.

True healing always starts with a YES.


"I see, you are in pain: Please tell me about! What has happened?"

If you give all this pain, frustration, fear, upset space within your love and compassion a huge transformation starts to happen.


Please compare with my posts here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16739-Radio-active-matter-Let-s-be-spiritual-Healers

Healing has always this approach:

we get in touch
we listen from the (spiritual) heart
we give the pain, the confusion, the frustration... space within our love and ask for forgiveness
we allow those who we are in touch with to reconnect with their inner truth and love (everything is divine by nature.)


There is no difference if we communicate with Sparkles of Consciousness, Molecules, Body-Cells, the Body-Intelligence (which is the 'software' of the body, responsible for the whole metabolisme...)
and believe me or not: It (often) works with humans.

The problem is:
Sparkles of Consciousness, Molecules, Body-Cells, the Body-Intelligence will never hit back. If you correspond truthfully, honestly and with love they are always grateful and healing starts to happen from within.

But not all of the human beings are as receptive. Quite often there are obstacles:
Ego, self-righteousness, programming, hidden intentions of those who have control over them can make the whole thing irrational and sometimes absolutely destructive.

All you can do then is stepping back and leave it up to the wisdom of the universe.

Love and knowledge: This way there is no prize to pay - but will benefit hugely for your spiritual growth.


Best wishes, Sepia

[Dragonfly]

Dear Sepia,

How can I make sure not to loose the connection with my higher self during profane life phases, such as work, stress, emotions etc.? How can we stay - at least - partially in the spiritual heaven?
:-)
Kind regards,
Dragonfly

[thunder24]

Sepia, thankyou for pointing out your Radio active thread. Great work. Much appreciated for all you contribute. thanks
peace

[Dylioso]

I would just like to add that you may have forgotten about one of the most important Chakra of all: the crown chakra, located at the top of the head.

[Dylioso]

I agree completely, the creator is in everything that both is and isn't; both seemingly "empty space" and physical creation are part of the same consciousness field. What most would call God or the creator, I simply call The All.

[sepia]

I would just like to add that you may have forgotten about one of the most important Chakra of all: the crown chakra, located at the top of the head.

No - no I haven't forgotten anything.

It took me years to figure this one out...

Nothing of the precious content and meaning that you (and many) associate with the top of the head is lost or ignored... It's just defined differently because

The first level after the third eye is the lowest astral sphere.

.
1. The top of the head is the place where mental programming is positioned.

This is the 'gift' of those who manufactured these bodies, and the whole programming is still going on.
.

For instant:

Woman-Man-Program, which brought a lot of suffering to humanity for thousands of years and still does...
All the lies that turn true spirituality - which could free people - into a religion in which people are caught by suppression.
Some examples:
- Jesus died for your sins. - Did he really? Wasn't he just killed? Don't you have to take responsibility for the things you did yourself?
- Or God-Father, an old man with white beard in heavens...
- and on top of this basic programming others can easily be put.


2. People who concentrate on the top of the head get into trouble.


Please compare: Gopi Krishna: 'Kundalini' just as an example.

3. Mystics use the doorway of the third Eye


and go one step furter and because they are so pure at heart end up in highest spirituality.
They resonate with the upper octave of the heart, throat or third eye, which are level 10, 11 and 12.


4. The two glands pituitary and pineal -


- are very close together and on the same level. Both will be activated if you concentrate on the third eye.

5. Level 7 is 'Little Johns dreamland'.


On Level 7 you get what you expect, because you end up in your own mental creation
- or - unfortunately and unavoidable you also encounter the astral creation of others.

----

If dead people are on this level, they show themselves with the same form of body (often with the same pain they had when alive) because they duplicate it. They still believe in matter and create an astral image of it.

----

These are a few reasons on which I based my system... I spent years researching all these things, and many others did together with me.

I hope this answer can be a hypothesis for your own research.

Best wishes, Sepia

[sepia]

Dear Sepia,

How can I make sure not to loose the connection with my higher self during profane life phases, such as work, stress, emotions etc.? How can we stay - at least - partially in the spiritual heaven?
:-)
Kind regards,
Dragonfly


Hello dear friend - lovely to see you here.

Have my best answer here: Find playful games - and change them again and again.


Give a smile to your higher Self and become aware that you are loved by it

every time you go to the toilette - it will be the most sacred room in your apartment :)
.
every time when something went right and smooth - pass your gratefulness on: You had help.
.
every time when something went wrong - pass your gratefulness on:
these things help our Ego to stay humble.
.
every time you drop something: You were woken up to more presence.
.
every time you have a lovely encounter with a nice person: Wasn't that a great gift?
.
every time it gets really tough with a person:
We are challenged to more creativity, to more understanding, to more....
find it out... We can always find some aspects on which we can grow.
.
.
And further more:
.
The higher Self is the best address for our anger, frustration and pain,
it's your inner Wailing Wall / Klagemauer
.
There were times in my life when I was internally screaming in agony:

'help - help - help' - to the only relevant address.

These times pass - always will :nod: and later on we realize how big a step we did on our spiritual journey. The spiritual focus often is the strongest when we suffer...

An other reason for a grateful smile.

Have a gorgeous day, Sepia

[greybeard]

The dark nights of the soul and the way of the cross -- are hard but bring great benefits in time.
I hold on to the saying---"This too shall pass."

Chris
Namaste

[Dragonfly]

Dear Sepia

Thank you for this very useful and practical answer.
Folks, let's do it - it gives a very nice flow - believe me:-)

Kind regards,
Dragonfly

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Sepia,

This thread is a wonderful contribution. Thank you very much. What a gift!

-Whiskey

[Dragonfly]

@Sepia: Yes indeed - what a gift. Words can't express my gratefulness for that - but I'm sure that you know what I mean.
:hug:

[sepia]

----

Chapter 8: Second astral level = Level 8, upper octave from the second Chakra


The most famous trap on a spiritual journey.




It is a huge astral universe, where emotions are most important:




the desire to be loved
to be honored and acknowledged
hunger to belong somewhere
sexual drive ad infinitum, every color you can think of - or can't because you're not perverted... (not of relevance for all)
some search because they are in need and get dependent
some offer and create dependency.

All kinds of sensations are possible, tremendous sweetness, shivering of heat, feeling of expansion, of becoming one with others, sexual excitement, overwhelming joy, outburst of different emotions...
(I don't have enough words to describe.)

No wonder that the eyes of those involved are glowing with exitement - often seen in the faces of 'esoteric -' and 'new-age-people' all over the place...

And if it feels so strong - it must be true, isn't it? (irony)
.
.


And it is all an illusion,
has nothing to do with spirituality -
this is the 'sweet hell' ,
the Luciferian Playground at its best - means governed by the suppressing forces.

.
.
I hope I can make my point clear:

Every single being is absolutely free to enjoy these things as long as they like. -

I only write this article for those who would like to differentiate between astral and spiritual qualities -
in order to finally get spiritual freedom, spiritual enlightenment.

* * * * * * *

The temptation on all the astral levels is huge and level 8 is the sweetest.

If you are still searching for 'great Mama' or 'amazing Papa' in some way or the other you will tend to get lost in these astral illusions. And the best way to avoid this is honest work with the second Chakra:

Learn to be your best friend! Feed yourself. Stand on your own ground. ----> Compare Post 47

* * * * * * *

It's better not to become a follower, it's better not to kiss anybodies feet, because it's not healthy to put ourselves down so that great Mama / Papa / Guru ends up on a pedestal.

If you give your admiration you stick your heart-essence on to the other person like gold foil - and it becomes very difficult for you to get free enough to grow.




But try this if it has already happened:

-> Bring your essence, your sparkles of admiration back to your heart.
-> You can do this just by deciding to do it...
-> You will quickly start to see the other person how she really is, without your gold
-> and you end up feeling equal.

.
Appreciation, estimation: all fine.
These are feelings you have in you heart and don't stick on to others.
But admiration is an energetic flow to the other person, the idol.
Some 'idols' are used to this diet and need more and more to feed their ego.



So this could help you to differentiate:

How much admiration is consumed by a person? ...
Do you perceive a giving or taking energy? ...
Do you feel free or somehow manipulated? ...


.


I had a teacher earlier in my life who was able to manipulate me in a way, that my heart would open up and feed him with lots of love...
Easy to do for any astral magician.
He was surrounded by women like me, all quite pale looking, same feature, humbly serving...
It's a common thing in so called spiritual circles...
And for me a very good learning situation: I spot these hungry energy-vampires from far. Other things I'm still learning...

.
Any serious teacher will always meet you on eye-level. If you decide to admire him/her this energy will be passed on into spirituality, but will not be consumed by the Ego.

* * * * * * *

Now you might understand why most 'so-called-Gurus' operate on this level - even when they have level 9 abilities, they prefer to hide behind a sweet and seducing surface on level 8, no matter if physically incarnated or without body.

* * * * * * *

There is more to say about level 8.

Best wishes, Sepia :)

[Bill Ryan]

---------

Very many thanks, Sepia - this is a really important post.

The key is to be able to differentiate between what is real and what is not.

[NancyV]

Very well put, Sepia! Great advice. It's so, so easy to get caught up in what looks like awesome love and light. It's a lot harder to avoid being trapped by the "glowing, loving" energy vampires than it is to battle with obvious negative entities. It feels so good! LOL...

I spent a lot of time learning to deal with these situations and it was all fun. Luckily I do not trust any being no matter how loving they seem and no matter what level they exist on. I do trust them to be themselves but I do not trust them to the extent that I will believe anything they communicate or try to get me to do.

I am the only one I "trust" (for want of a better word) when I am travelling on other levels unless I merge completely with another being and become one. It's not even really an issue of "trust", but a stance of being completely sovereign and whole within yourSELF. There are no gods, gurus, loving beings, evolved spirits, etc. who have access to any more wholeness than you do. They have no knowledge that is not available to you.

If you accept that you have access to all that is then you cannot be controlled. All the games are about control of energy and for some strange reason there are a LOT of beings who love to suck others energy. I guess they can't yet or don't want to fully tap into the unending source of all energy... LOVE.

Nancy :)

[K626]

Very well put, Sepia! Great advice. It's so, so easy to get caught up in what looks like awesome love and light. It's a lot harder to avoid being trapped by the "glowing, loving" energy vampires than it is to battle with obvious negative entities. It feels so good! LOL...

I spent a lot of time learning to deal with these situations and it was all fun. Luckily I do not trust any being no matter how loving they seem and no matter what level they exist on. I do trust them to be themselves but I do not trust them to the extent that I will believe anything they communicate or try to get me to do.

I am the only one I "trust" (for want of a better word) when I am travelling on other levels unless I merge completely with another being and become one. It's not even really an issue of "trust", but a stance of being completely sovereign and whole within yourSELF. There are no gods, gurus, loving beings, evolved spirits, etc. who have access to any more wholeness than you do. They have no knowledge that is not available to you.

If you accept that you have access to all that is then you cannot be controlled. All the games are about control of energy and for some strange reason there are a LOT of beings who love to suck others energy. I guess they can't yet or don't want to fully tap into the unending source of all energy... LOVE.

Nancy :)

Tricky last para N but I know what you mean.

There are still aspects of me (I can feel them) holding onto silly stuff.

Peace

K

[Sierra]

I tried the apple exercise with the third eye but I got such a weird result I have to ask you what was I doing lol ...

I tried and tried and tried to see a single apple with nothing around it in front of my third eye. No dice, nada.

Then it was as if a window opened up only the whole wall became a window but there was a window in the window wall too. I went through the window, was moving but was really discombobulated because I was seeing too much too fast and it felt as if my feet were doing their own thing and I had no control over them. I kept starting over and leaping through the window again and again until somehow I was moving "correctly" (?) until I am rushing up a hill, it is green and it looks like Ireland. I push through some bushes (I am moving fast enough that I feel like a bounding four legged animal) then burst out of the bushes up the green steep hill toward a stone fence forming a back yard to a stone house and the apple is sitting on the stone fence. I see the apple. Thats it.

Is this a third eye visualization? Is this my imagination? Except I didn't feel in control of it as I do my imagination. I was surprised. And why all this scenery and moving about?

Sierra

[sepia]

I tried the apple exercise with the third eye but I got such a weird result I have to ask you what was I doing lol ...

I tried and tried and tried to see a single apple with nothing around it in front of my third eye. No dice, nada.

Then it was as if a window opened up only the whole wall became a window but there was a window in the window wall too....
Is this a third eye visualization? Is this my imagination? Except I didn't feel in control of it as I do my imagination. I was surprised. And why all this scenery and moving about?

Sierra

Oh dear...

I certainly didn't want to send you on an astral trip.

The apple might have been the wrong fruit -
it has already brought humanity into trouble earlier in history :) (joke)

It was just a very simple exercise for those who are not familiar with the third eye, so that they could find the precise position.

So let's try this:

Remember this daily situation: you are standing in a store in front of a specific shelve (we better don't mention apples here... ) -

In order to find out if you need something from this shelve you quickly, and very naturally look back into your household, to find out if you still have these articles on stock or if you better buy one.

And you do this from your inner eye.

Find out where this is positioned and try to bring your concentration there as often as possible.

Astral travel is not what I train (different reasons...)
I teach to use spiritual means.

Best wishes, Sepia

[Sierra]

I certainly didn't want to send you on an astral trip.

So let's try this:

Remember this daily situation: you are standing in a store in front of a specific shelve (we better don't mention apples here... ) -

In order to find out if you need something from this shelve you quickly, and very naturally look back into your household, to find out if you still have these articles on stock or if you better buy one.

And you do this from your inner eye.

Find out where this is positioned and try to bring your concentration there as often as possible.

Astral travel is not what I train (different reasons...)
I teach to use spiritual means.


Best wishes, Sepia

Astral ... ? Okay ... didn't know you could do it while awake and conscious of the body.
Now that would be a useful talent! No more shopping lists lol ...
Between the ears, not between the eyebrows ...
Thank you Sepia :) :hug:

[K626]

Hi Sepia,

Do you find the more you become yourself the harder it is being close to others...?

Thoughts?

Peace

K

[yaksuit]

Hi Sepia,

Do you find the more you become yourself the harder it is being close to others...?

Thoughts?

Peace

K

Excellent question.
Made me "think" of a King Crimson song called "Three of a perfect pair".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWyJfdob0a4

[greybeard]

Hi Sepia,

Do you find the more you become yourself the harder it is being close to others...?

Thoughts?

Peace

K

Good question K626

In my case I went through a period of loving everything and everyone and got really hurt in the process.
Then discernment clicked in and while I still love -- Im very selective as to whom I say "I love you" to-- some dear friends past and present and family.

I dont see people to speak to for days now --- I can talk about the weather but really not on the same wave length.
Most people talk about whats on TV which I rarely watch ---it just happened that way

So yes Its harder getting close to people the more you become your self.

Thanks for the question.

Chris

[Zampano]

So yes Its harder getting close to people the more you become your self.

Quote from greybeard

What I experienced is that more of my friends want to interact with me because they know what I am doing and they would like to talk to me about this things,
They have a natural curiosity about these topics-yet they are afraid to live it.

Even with people I meet for the first time...after a couple of minutes I get caught up in a discussion where they wouldnt talk about it normally with friends.
I subconsciously push them somehow there, but it shows to me that a lot of people have a natural curiosity.

Of course it is harder to talk to older people which have set their believe system in order to manage their lives.
But as well as the young people with lower education, where they have their believe that cars and clothes is tha thing in life...

They dont care about geopolitics or spirituality and thats the waste majority.

But all of them told me, that they ultimately want to life their lives without being harmed or disturbed

[sepia]

Hi Sepia,

Do you find the more you become yourself the harder it is being close to others...?

Thoughts?

Peace

K

After all the great answers you already got I would like to give you my pragmatic answer as well -
(sometimes I have pointy ears like good old Spock... :) )

It all depends from our level of awareness:



As long as people are functioning through their instinctive Chakras (1-3) they understand themselves as part of the herd, the flock how ever you want to call it...
They are very strongly interconnected and therefore give the interests of the group higher priority than their personal interest.

These people feel best when they are in groups.
.
From there on (4-6 Chakra) the individuals start to 'individualize', start to define themselves.
The fifth Chakra (throat) supports the self-expression, but also the clear perception of worldly things. One starts to differentiate... and finally it becomes clear that every one is absolutely unique.

Some might enjoy this, but many question themselves and suffer.

And because we have already thought about many aspects of life and have made our decisions it becomes more and more difficult to accept that others don't think or when they think they come to different conclusions...
This can lead to endless arguments... Does that feel familiar to anybody? :nerd:

It is certainly not the worst thing to withdraw when it becomes difficult to see
how deeply asleep some are... Or other things...
.
If you perceive the world through your third eye it is often hard to bear.
.
But then we proceed and grow spiritually... - hopefully -
and bring our viewpoint to spiritual levels where is no fight at all.

We realize that we are not alone at all. Many beings (some incarnated most without bodies) share the same subtle frequency of consciousness called unconditional love and compassion.

This is the end of all loneliness.

Once understood we will find friends who also communicate through spirituality.
Friendship with them is soooo much easier :)

But at the same time we become more patient for others... (most of the time :o )



Best wishes, Sepia

[K626]

Hi Sepia.

Great answer.

Now how about this.

I have moved around a lot over the last decade and I have noticed wherever I go I attract at least one guardian type friend sometimes two. Even on the first meeting we resonate immediately, a lot need not be vocalised and a lot of thoughts feel mutual. Here's the thing they all have similar characteristics and I can pick them out in a croweded room and it's almost like we've met before many times. In group situations they are almost like my translator and it can be funny to witness...:p

What do you make of this?

Peace

K

[markoid]

Thank you for this thread Sepia. It is the most concise and easy to digest guide to this subject that I have ever read. I am coming back to meditation after a decade or so of complete disillusionment with spiritual life and this is very valuable and useful for me... just perfect, as have been many situations and incidents since deciding to renew my direction and effort. Thanks so much for sharing your wisdom.... love

[shijo]

Hi Sepia,

Do you find the more you become yourself the harder it is being close to others...?

Thoughts?

Peace

K

Good question K626

In my case I went through a period of loving everything and everyone and got really hurt in the process.
Then discernment clicked in and while I still love -- Im very selective as to whom I say "I love you" to-- some dear friends past and present and family.

I dont see people to speak to for days now --- I can talk about the weather but really not on the same wave length.
Most people talk about whats on TV which I rarely watch ---it just happened that way

So yes Its harder getting close to people the more you become your self.

Thanks for the question.

Chris

hmm ive found the opposite Chris, the more ive opened over the years the more people have opened to me and become closer in a real way too, not just tv conversations or the weather,you know the one about one person sitting in their room thinking the right thoughts and attracting others of like mind,knowing your posts im sure youve experienced this. Regards Shijo

[sepia]

Hi Sepia.

Great answer.

Now how about this.

I have moved around a lot over the last decade and I have noticed wherever I go I attract at least one guardian type friend sometimes two. Even on the first meeting we resonate immediately, a lot need not be vocalised and a lot of thoughts feel mutual. Here's the thing they all have similar characteristics and I can pick them out in a croweded room and it's almost like we've met before many times. In group situations they are almost like my translator and it can be funny to witness...:p

What do you make of this?

Peace

K

I know exactly what you're saying. - But let me put it in words.

Those you have an open third eye (about 15 - 20% of the population in my perception) send signals out on different levels of frequency.

Some frequencies communicate very naturally together -
others react more like water and fire.

Or to be more precise:

Astral frequencies are attracted together and immediately start to play out similar games as are played in this body: sometimes joyful, inspiring, sometimes abusive, manipulative, or just pure war / power-games.

Spiritual frequencies also communicate together very naturally.

There are not many explanations needed. This subtle quality of consciousness is so simple, so straight forward... You look into each-others eyes and know. This is 'meeting the spiritual family', a very uplifting quality.



(I know, that people who meet on astral level and don't know yet the difference would describe the quality in the same way.
Sigh - we probably all have to go through this in order to learn...)

Your signal is very clear - that's the reason you meet these people.

Sometimes we know from the moment such a person enters the room - but many of them have learned to 'play harmless' and put the 'invisible-cloth' around them for not sticking out... (know what I mean?)

On spiritual level everything is seen, no lies possible, every veil is lifted...

Oh, I'm looking forward to describe the spiritual spheres...

Thank you for asking the question.

Meet you there - all who know the difference :)

[K626]

Thanks for that lovely answer, let me think on it a bit....

...Perhaps there is more...

Peace

K

[sepia]

---

Chapter 8: More to Level 8: Astral Sexuality


Those who live mostly through their emotions, who would like to belong, to love, to be loved in an close and emotional way will end up in this sphere.

With this post I would like to cover the sexual aspect of Level 8

It happenes very naturally:

Our beloved is far away or has even died - and we are longing for him/her.
We might think it was a dream, but actually we really met while we were asleep. The other being was here according to its own longing - there is agreement, one doesn't even know who created it.
We feel the tender hug, the kiss or any sexual interaction - lovely, comforting, soothing...

So this is the nice part:
Two people / beings who love each other and out of free will join in the astral spheres.



Some people act on astral level exactly in the same way as they would do physically.
Others have understood, that everything is created mentally:
There is no gravity making things complicating, you can freely move like under water but of course without any breathing-trouble.

This can be a wonderful experience... and of course can just be the next trap again:

Playing here might also mean to forget that it is happening within the prison
and has nothing to do with spirituality.




But don't we sometimes eat something which is not healthy
but we enjoy it and then go back to healthy food? - :hug:



* * * * * * *


Let me describe the negative sides to this:




Some people create an inner movie and take an other person into this visualization without agreement:
.
Please know that these movies have a reality - although not a physical one.
.
The other person perceives the effect - even when she/he is not aware in daily consciousness.
.
It is not ethical and has karmic consequences.

.

* * * * * * *


Be happy if this door is sealed in your energy-field.
Many things are easier.

If it is open astral influences can easily enter.
- or it is open because it was used by astral entities.




Sexual abuse is done by beings who have died and no longer have a body but like to continue this kind of activity.
.
(There are more sex-addicts around than you might guess. And an addiction doesn't disappear just by giving up the body.)
.
Or it is done by astral beings who never had a human body, but they like to create desire, just to enjoy sexual pleasure within our bodies.
.
They very often leave traces behind: little sparkles of consciousness, like little, non-physical magnets or chips. Just by activating them a sexual desire might start. - This can even go so far that people do things that bring them into jail.
(Not if you have your frame of ethical paradigms.)

.

* * * * * * *


My best recommendation to this topic:




Share sexuality with a person you truly love. Your mutual love protects the space and the risk for astral things to enter is much less.
.
Do energetic work to clear your energy-field. Specially after sexual activity.
(Not because your partner or sexuality itself would somehow be dirty - but you might have picked up some astral sparkles of consciousness.)
.
Brush through your energy-field and release those sparkles and bring your own back to yourself.
.
If you feel a sexual desire - it doesn't need to be yours. - Would you want to act on something which is not yours? - If not clear all the sparkles out that are activated and activating.
.
Living with no sexual activity for some time will teach you a lot about this energy and all the dynamics. The energy will have to find other ways within your system... This can be a very fascinating journey...
.
(Well, this is material for a small book... which others have already written.)

.
We don't need to have a permanent existence here in this Universe of emotions.

If you like to be there in some situations you are able to create an astral presence in an instant.

(Too much activity here is a hindrance to spiritual progress.)


Best wishes, Sepia :)

[Seikou-Kishi]

You put so much effort in, Sepia. The 'thanks' button isn't enough. Thank you for your dedication.

[sepia]

You put so much effort in, Sepia. The 'thanks' button isn't enough. Thank you for your dedication.

...and thank you for your appreciation.

It's for you - for all those who can benefit from this information :thumb:

[greybeard]

Some of the best teachers I have had the good fortune to encounter had one outstanding quality.
Humility
You have that quality Sepia

No self promoting is necessary.
Truth can not be denied, it does not have to be promenaded, or shouted from the roof tops,
it comes quietly when people are ready to receive it.

Chris

[Isthatso]

The dark nights of the soul and the way of the cross -- are hard but bring great benefits in time.
I hold on to the saying---"This too shall pass."

Chris
Namaste


Oh Greybeard.....I have clung to those very words for dear life.

"This too shall pass"

So simple but very profound during the greater struggles.

Warm wishes...
P.S. My username come's from Eckhart Tolle's teachings.

Just going through the thread now, sorry if this pops up out of context.

[Nortreb]

Many thanks for this thread, Dear Sepia! ;)

And thanks so much for your last post on "Astral Sexuality". This points to the so called weapon used by TPTW to enslave humanity.

Your sharing this feeds the wave that is growing to bring down their "Veil". Thanks again!

Peace,

Nortreb

[sepia]

----

Chapter 8: Techniques belonging to level 8.
.


Astral traveling is possible on all astral levels.
On level 8 you travel with your emotions, your hunger to belong to someone
or with your sexual desire.
'Belonging' to someone or some group on this level always means, that you make yourself fitting in - so you have to deny your divinity.
Those who get lost in these games separate themselves from there true spiritual potential.
.
Diagnosis:
As soon as you are familiar with this frequency you are able to see where others are about on this astral-emotional level.



Take this as a rule, if you haven't done it before: :)
What you have truly experienced you are able to perceive and understand in others.

Thats why only an enlightened person is able to recognize an enlightened person.



Most psychic medium read this level and talk about relationships. And most of them also get information (true or wrong) about level 7.
(Often astral beings whisper in their ears - spiritual beings don't have an interest. Do you want to believe into this kind of 'truth'?)
.
.
Certain kind of healing:
It takes place by communicating through emotional frequency - and most often ends up in dependency, because the 'healer' who acts on this level tries to feed his/her own needs.
.
Any half-way developed 'astral magician' whose field vibrates on this level is able to manipulate this energy.
Every 'false Gurus' plays with this energy.
(Actually he/she became a false Guru because of this: He/she turned people into followers.)
A true 'Guru', a spiritual 'Master' won't even show up in this field.
.
Astral magicians are able to put images, informations, emotional impressions etc. into your space which serve their purpose, like:
- having met earlier
- having mutual Karma
- having had this or that kind of previous lifetime
- being meant for each other
- having feelings towards a person, a group of people,
towards some kind of information ect.
- or they create a sexual desire for them in you

"Believing" these informations is not a very safe approach...

.

Human beings are easiest to manipulate through means of level 8.

It is the most deceptive of all because 'sweet emotions' are involved.

My recommendation:




Be very careful, if you have strong emotional reactions on something or someone.
.
Emotions might be created and intended to impress you.
(Coming from people or astral beings.)
.
Never take them as evidence for truth.
.
Check the same content the next day. And again the next - and the next :ohwell:
.
Read some really pure material to bring yourself into a high and truthfull frequency - and then test again.
.
Sharpen your perception - you will need it.


.
.
I do my best to proceed to the spiritual levels -
they really are the tuning fork to differentiate untruth from truth.

Love to you all - Sepia

[Jetsam]

Snip// Read some really pure material to bring yourself into a high and truthfull frequency - and then test again.
//Snip

What exactly is pure material?

Because lately I'm having a hard time deciding what to read...
There are so many things, from Anandamayi Ma to J. Krishnamurti, the Vedas... ad infinitum.

And they all resonate with me on certain levels, it's driving me crazy (OK, that's a bit over the top, but still a little annoying).



Thank you.

[NancyV]

Great information, Sepia! We can certainly all benefit from it. Until one gets caught up in astral levels and astral sex they have no clue how fantastic it can be and how it can trap them. It is so far beyond sex here in the physical there is little comparison. But if you can pull yourself out of that game or simply resist it and into the next levels, it's incredibly more awesome than what you thought was fantastic before! Merging with other beings is truly ecstatic and allows us to become more of who we are. It's that way in each higher vibrational level all the way up to the ultimate merging with the Source.

I seem to be able to resist pretty much any temptation or trap although admittedly I have stayed and played in different levels along the way. There is no judgment about those who choose to remain in a particular level, but just as we are searching for a way out of the body and traps of the physical world we would be wise to not accept any level as the ultimate end of the journey until we merge with the Source. There is no mistaking or misinterpreting merging with the Source.

Your advice to not believe any being is what I tell people who ask, and I try very hard to overcome my own tendencies to believe anything here on earth also. It's not a rejection of the validity of what anyone is saying but a suspension of belief. While traveling out of body, the more wonderful and loving a being is the easier it is to believe them, so it is natural to fall into being influenced and controlled by them. Of course it can only be done with your consent but it is easy to want to consent to such bliss. Unconditional love is far beyond any emotions and contains no temptations. It is a state of wholeness and completeness.

Nancy :)

[sepia]

What exactly is pure material?

Because lately I'm having a hard time deciding what to read...
There are so many things, from Anandamayi Ma to J. Krishnamurti, the Vedas... ad infinitum.

Of course this is a question of personal preferences.
Important for me was always that the words make sense to me and the heart was touched at the same time.

Because of my incarnations in India I very much love the Indian mystics.




Anandamayi Ma is wonderful.

After I knew the books about her by heart, I often only took one sentence or just a picture to contemplate and get in touch with her spiritual quality - and to be reminded of mine.
.
Shri Ramana Maharshi

a source of inspiration for so many.
.
Shri Nisargadatta:

To meet him as a being always makes me laugh. Great.


These are my closest companions on the inner Sphere... But there are so many...
Rumi sometimes made me cry... touched me... hmmm...

All those who are not on this list are just not so close to me, but might be wonderful as well.


Sepia :)

[K626]

This is one of old geezers in full flow...:cool:

BNIvQzryesY

[greybeard]

Hi Sepia
Think like you I had Indian past lives-- I felt so much at home there.
The Gurus you mention all made a big impact on me.
Think you will agree there is no need to reinvent the wheel.
Your seminar comes from knowledge as ancient as time.

Namaste

[Seikou-Kishi]

- Saving the world? No. It's not my job.
- Saving souls - means reaching out and supporting those who want to become spiritually free? A L W A Y S .


Forgive me I'm going to sound a little stupid and unenlightened, but what's the difference? I didn't think there was a world independent of souls. I thought souls were the world.


^_^*

[777]

Wow Sepia, this thread is an absolute gem! I can't believe I'm so late to the party.

This is priceless information, thank you so much for bestowing your wisdom upon us, we're truly blessed by it and you.

I'm only on page two, but I'm working through and enjoying every second!

[sepia]

- Saving the world? No. It's not my job.
- Saving souls - means reaching out and supporting those who want to become spiritually free?
A L W A Y S .


Forgive me I'm going to sound a little stupid and unenlightened, but what's the difference? I didn't think there was a world independent of souls. I thought souls were the world.


^_^*

Well, the answer is actually quite simple:

What ever has been created will also have an end.

Every species, every culture, every body, every body intelligence, even stars and planets...

But beings are eternal.

We have created ourselves, we are creators.
A divine being is divine and doesn't need a more divine one to create it :)

But beings are confused, disoriented, programmed, they carry loads of karma... and most often have not the chance to find liberation when left alone.

I have reached out for beings for hundred thousands of years (if measured in earth-years, which of course is a bit arbitrary and funny...) before coming on this planet.
This is now my purpose, and will still be my purpose after this body has died.


Does this answer your question?

Love Sepia.

[Newlyn]

Thanks again Sepia.

I saw one big 111 after I read your posts, for me it's a good sign.

I think the hard times and the challenges in life is the moments we should be the most thankful. Cause theese are the true gifts to develope love strength and wisdom.

How can I, the best way, develop my integrity with other strong people?

Blessings!

[manny]

sepia,
what are the techniques used for remembering who we really are.
how does one recognize if they are doing it correctly.

if i meditate and i see a lemon flower in my minds eye.
how do i know that this is not just my imagination.
although it can be very vivid.

the astral has no rules,or rules that we can confuse with dreams or imagination.
reality is on another level,that is difficult to comprehend.
so someone with a vivid imagination,use to astral dreams and lucid dreaming.could easily get confused as to whether they are meditating correctly.
thanks.

[sepia]

Thanks again Sepia.

I saw one big 111 after I read your posts, for me it's a good sign.

I think the hard times and the challenges in life is the moments we should be the most thankful. Cause theese are the true gifts to develope love strength and wisdom.

How can I, the best way, develop my integrity with other strong people?

Blessings!

My approach might be a little bit different:

I don't make my commitment with people



- my commitment is always with the qualities of the soul-being.

I hold on to the higher Self and in this way support the higher truth of a being:




I hold on to any honest attempt to grow,
its purity,
its integrity and spiritual love,
I support all actions that are in alignment with the higher self,
.
but I never support actions that overcompensate short-comings
but instead would support the healing of them.
and I never support actions that are driven by an EGO that wants to prove how brilliant it is...
.
But if someone IS BRILLIANT I will support this person to manifest this brilliance if it is of benefit for the game - for humans, animals, plants...

.
This will certainly become clearer once I proceed...

(I'm very sorry for not being faster - I'm very busy at the moment.)

Sepia

[sepia]

sepia,
what are the techniques used for remembering who we really are.
how does one recognize if they are doing it correctly.

Hi manny and all who are following this teaching.

I'm sorry to ask you for some patience - I know this is annoying though :juggle:
I'm busy with seminars and have not enough time to continue quickly.

Many things will make much more sense once I have described the spiritual spheres -
but at the moment the highest astral sphere is next...



if i meditate and i see a lemon flower in my minds eye.
how do i know that this is not just my imagination.
although it can be very vivid.

Often images are given by the mind to translate something to us that has no form.


the astral has no rules,or rules that we can confuse with dreams or imagination.
reality is on another level,that is difficult to comprehend.
so someone with a vivid imagination,use to astral dreams and lucid dreaming.could easily get confused as to whether they are meditating correctly.
thanks.

"Meditating correctly" for me is something very different. - I will describe later.

Sorry for postponing.... Have no other choice at the moment.

Sepia

[sepia]

----

Chapter 9: Third astral level = Level 9



This is the universe of the most powerful 'Gods',
who rule through magic, manipulation, secrecy and lies.



Ladies and Gentleman - fasten your seat-belt...



If you get in touch with astral spheres
you are in the playing-fields of those who call themselves Gods
- and often are terrifying Devils.


Never forget that you're a free spiritual being.

.
.
When these 'Gods' join this game they say:




We rule (- others have to follow / others are our slaves.)
We decide (- others have to take orders)
We are superior (- others are less important, have less value)
We take the right to decide for others (- we have earned this right / we take this right.)
We punish (- that's what 'Gods' do... the inferiors have to be educated - or actually drilled.)
It's our game (- because we claim it.)
We are Gods (- of course. But the others aren't.)


Their intent is always to be on top of the hierarchy from where they suppress and control others.



A spiritual being might say similar things - with a completely different meaning:




Instead of ruling: I create a game, others can be part of it, if they like it.
I decide for myself - others decide for themselves.
Instead of claiming superiority: I'm aware of my divine nature and there is not difference to others.
We take the right to decide for others who are not able to decide for themselves: Children, people who are unconscious, need help...
Instead of punishing we find ways to teach, to improve understanding - and first of all be a living example.
It's our game - Oh yes, we are all part of this ongoing creative process. Let's all take responsibility and give our best.
We are Gods: Yes we all are divine. Divinity is pure love for all and every thing.



* * * * * * *

Important to know about level 9:

All beings here want to grow stronger, to get more influence and to get a larger game.
They want to win and conquer
They want to be stronger, better, more successful and superior.

And they have their fans and followers - and they think they have made a free decision... (Manipulation can be extremely subtle.)

And they have their slaves: those who are programmed or hypnotized to do what the ruler wants. They have no choice.

The opponents are other groups, not better not worse... actually doing the same, just under a different title and coming from another angle.

The strongest are those who 'came down' from the spiritual sphere by free decision in order to rule. They don't have a burden of Karma and are clever enough to let others do the dirty work so they can stay as free and strong as possible.

They are not incarnated.
A physical body is extremely limiting and would only weaken them.
Some overtake temporarily the body of a person or influence a person to act out it's will.

Their power is beyond measure, they are very influential and able to rule over a large kingdom with numerous beings.

They act out there willpower - let's say - to push from A to B.
It won't take long and there will be others who have decided to push from B to A, or from another side to fight for their interests.

On level 9 there is endless fight, because these beings have made a conscous decision for power - and against spiritual love and compassion.


* * * * * * *


One cannot really win in these spheres.
There are always others who have intentions that aim against yours.


Spiritual meditation brings you into a completely different frequency.
Spiritual love heals the fear and so you go beyond
and disappear from the screen of the astral Gods.


(I will say more about this level.)

Feel the peace in your heart - this is heaven inside of you.

Sepia

[Newlyn]

Thanks again Sepia.

I saw one big 111 after I read your posts, for me it's a good sign.

I think the hard times and the challenges in life is the moments we should be the most thankful. Cause theese are the true gifts to develope love strength and wisdom.

How can I, the best way, develop my integrity with other strong people?

Blessings!

My approach might be a little bit different:

I don't make my commitment with people



- my commitment is always with the qualities of the soul-being.

I hold on to the higher Self and in this way support the higher truth of a being:




I hold on to any honest attempt to grow,
its purity,
its integrity and spiritual love,
I support all actions that are in alignment with the higher self,
.
but I never support actions that overcompensate short-comings
but instead would support the healing of them.
and I never support actions that are driven by an EGO that wants to prove how brilliant it is...
.
But if someone IS BRILLIANT I will support this person to manifest this brilliance if it is of benefit for the game - for humans, animals, plants...

.
This will certainly become clearer once I proceed...

(I'm very sorry for not being faster - I'm very busy at the moment.)

Sepia

Thank you Sepia for the answer. Though I thought you might have misunderstood the question.

The question is really just about developing integrity in a good way, when having people around you that want to control you.

All the best! :)

[sepia]

Though I thought you might have misunderstood the question.

The question is really just about developing integrity in a good way, when having people around you that want to control you.

All the best! :)

:sorry:


developing integrity in a good way, when having people around you that want to control you.

What can I say? - Become independent and step out - leave this field.



(...and I know that this is not possible in all countries and in all situations.
And this is very very sad.)

Create your own playing-field: a high quality game (business) - and people will join you out of free will - and will add their best to it.

Please PM me when I got it all wrong again :blink:

[MariaDine]

- - - -- - - -- - - - -- - -- - Namasté

Ps- All sistems are just one sistem. You should have known that by now.

[sepia]

---
As you might have seen, MariaDine:

It was my clear intention to keep my 'Seminar' absolutely neutral. - Advertisement for any specific method is not appreciated here.

Sepia

[Charlie Pecos]

Hi Sepia,

Thank you so much for this valuable insight into a world I have no practical experience in, but one that I have been observing the evidence of, in that which surrounds us- our shared reality.
Simply put, I see the clues to that which you speak of all around us. Very subtle the clues, easy to miss they are. I do realize you are talking about astral levels here but I see much of what you describe going on in the 3rd astral level also occurring here in our 3d reality and I see how these higher astral level beings manipulate and control our lives, our reality.

I wonder, is the mystery to be solved by us one in which we realize that we are more powerful than these beings that control and manipulate us from behind an invisble curtain?
Are there other forces that are beyond us and also greater than these entities whose game we are tricked into playing? If so, what can you say about them?

Is this reality a natural state of being for our shared level of development as spirits? Why is there a need for spiritual beings to grow and evolve when they are already all?
Is being a part of this reality and the game that these dark forces play part of a natural plan of the evolution of spirits or have these beings maliciously side tracked souls that would otherwise be developing in a more free manner? Are we all spiritual slaves or is this game part of a larger game? I realize that the human mind is very limited in what it is able to comprehend, and can quite easily be broken. Still, I desire to know why things are the way they are. Any clarity that you can bring will be met with much gratitude.

Thank you so much Sepia for your time and effort here, you are very much appreciated.:hug:


----

Chapter 9: Third astral level = Level 9



This is the universe of the most powerful 'Gods',
who rule through magic, manipulation, secrecy and lies.



Ladies and Gentleman - fasten your seat-belt...



If you get in touch with astral spheres
you are in the playing-fields of those who call themselves Gods
- and often are terrifying Devils.


Never forget that you're a free spiritual being.

.
.
When these 'Gods' join this game they say:




We rule (- others have to follow / others are our slaves.)
We decide (- others have to take orders)
We are superior (- others are less important, have less value)
We take the right to decide for others (- we have earned this right / we take this right.)
We punish (- that's what 'Gods' do... the inferiors have to be educated - or actually drilled.)
It's our game (- because we claim it.)
We are Gods (- of course. But the others aren't.)


Their intent is always to be on top of the hierarchy from where they suppress and control others.



A spiritual being might say similar things - with a completely different meaning:




Instead of ruling: I create a game, others can be part of it, if they like it.
I decide for myself - others decide for themselves.
Instead of claiming superiority: I'm aware of my divine nature and there is not difference to others.
We take the right to decide for others who are not able to decide for themselves: Children, people who are unconscious, need help...
Instead of punishing we find ways to teach, to improve understanding - and first of all be a living example.
It's our game - Oh yes, we are all part of this ongoing creative process. Let's all take responsibility and give our best.
We are Gods: Yes we all are divine. Divinity is pure love for all and every thing.



* * * * * * *

Important to know about level 9:

All beings here want to grow stronger, to get more influence and to get a larger game.
They want to win and conquer
They want to be stronger, better, more successful and superior.

And they have their fans and followers - and they think they have made a free decision... (Manipulation can be extremely subtle.)

And they have their slaves: those who are programmed or hypnotized to do what the ruler wants. They have no choice.

The opponents are other groups, not better not worse... actually doing the same, just under a different title and coming from another angle.

The strongest are those who 'came down' from the spiritual sphere by free decision in order to rule. They don't have a burden of Karma and are clever enough to let others do the dirty work so they can stay as free and strong as possible.

They are not incarnated.
A physical body is extremely limiting and would only weaken them.
Some overtake temporarily the body of a person or influence a person to act out it's will.

Their power is beyond measure, they are very influential and able to rule over a large kingdom with numerous beings.

They act out there willpower - let's say - to push from A to B.
It won't take long and there will be others who have decided to push from B to A, or from another side to fight for their interests.

On level 9 there is endless fight, because these beings have made a conscous decision for power - and against spiritual love and compassion.


* * * * * * *


One cannot really win in these spheres.
There are always others who have intentions that aim against yours.


Spiritual meditation brings you into a completely different frequency.
Spiritual love heals the fear and so you go beyond
and disappear from the screen of the astral Gods.


(I will say more about this level.)

Feel the peace in your heart - this is heaven inside of you.

Sepia

[sepia]

----
Answer to Charlie Pecos, Part 1
----



I see much off what you describe going on in the 3rd astral level also occurring here in our 3d reality and I see how these higher astral level beings manipulate and control our lives, our reality.

Absolutely.
We are confronted with the same games and patterns from the moment we play for the first time in the sandbox.
But until we understand the significance of the astral influence we are not able to comprehend what is happening here.

Let me put it that way:

These are the roles played in the sandbox:





The positive ruler: This role is often vacant.
.
Into this vacuum steps the suppressive ruler. He wants to turn the game into his game.
.
The social worker: Agrees more or less with the ruler, is glad that somone does the job, doesn't feel confident enough to do it. Comforts those you cry, motivates those who loose faith... harmonizes the game.
.
The angry victims: They remember something called 'justice', 'fairness', etc. and fight against the ruler. But they don't have enough power or good enough means and often get hit hard by the followers who want to play the ruler's game.
.
Some introvert: They are fed up by all the conflicts and only concentrate on their own game: their own sand-castle... They play for themselves.
.
The broken ones: They have given up long ago, may be in one of the last incarnations... They keep quiet and hope they are left in peace.
.
And varieties of them...


The roles don't change. - But sometimes beings are able to change their role.

.

I wonder, is the mystery to be solved by us one in which we realize that we are more powerful than these beings that control and manipulate us from behind an invisble curtain?

No, not more powerful - but more spiritual. This makes you invincible.
.
.
So ask yourself: What have you learned in the sandbox?




Some learn to become stronger fighters - so that they will become suppressing leaders themselves.
.
Some end up broken down, depressed, hopeless, devaluated:
"It is always the same: I'm not good enough."
.
Some go beyond power, grow on their spiritual journey and through honest work end up on level 10 and even higher. They dwell in spiritual love and compassion and approach the game from there.
And because they have gone the whole journey with open eyes, they know a lot about the game.
.
They are no far-away-esoteric-love-and-light-angels,
.
but they are highly intelligent, fast, clear and never afraid to talk the truth.
.


They have their feet on the ground -
they clean a toilet or meditate
or even both at the same time. :)
.
That is actually how you change your timeline:
.
Once your whole being vibrates on spiritual frequency you can become aerodynamic for the power-game. It just cannot find a grip on you anymore.
.
But the prize is high. Mystics say:
.
You leave everything behind in order to gain everything. More about this in the next Chapter.

.
.

Sepia

[sepia]

----
Answer to Charlie Pecos, Part 2
----


Are there other forces that are beyond us and also greater than these entities whose game we are tricked into playing? If so, what can you say about them?

Greater and stronger yes - but not better.
Only the spiritual beings are beyond doubt. But they will always allow free will and will never interfere with the game.
So they are not seen on the brightly illuminated stage.

Who ever acts through power is on level 9 (Astral; Karma involved...) And the whole hierachy of power has many many layers...

1. There are more or less powerful people here on this planet.
.
2. There are more or less powerful astral beings behind them, influencing, manipulating, acting out their own agenda...


Astral beings can be identified with the human form because they had such bodies before...
So they create a human-looking astral body - or choose any costume they like.
.
Other astral beings are identified with other forms (reptilian, draconian and numerous others...)
and choose their astral form accordingly - or any costume they like.
.
Their frequency is very different to ours - and only when we are strong enough to confront their power, they are willing to communicate with us.

.

Are we all spiritual slaves or is this game part of a larger game?

I don't see myself as a spiritual slave. My meditation has brought me into a different perception...
I will go on describing this in the coming chapters.


I realize that the human mind is very limited in what it is able to comprehend, and can quite easily be broken.

I absolutely agree. - The MIND first needs to understand as much as possible.

Then our meditation takes us beyond MIND and we are able to comprehend.



Thank you so much Sepia for your time and effort here, you are very much appreciated.:hug:

Thank your for your interest and your appreciation.

Best wishes to everybody, Sepia :)

[Charlie Pecos]

Thank you Sepia for your highly informative and detailed response. I look forward to your next presentation.

Much Love and Gratitude to you, and a big bear hug-:hug:

[sepia]

----

...taste the sweetness of a little Meditation....

----



(I might give more explanations on the vast Universe of Power (Level 9) later,
but my longing to describe spiritual qualities had to wait faaaar toooo long... :flame:)


Let me just take you over to the other side of the creek...


When we cross a creek in real life it is recommended

1. to focus on the big stepping stones in the middle of the water and

2. to search for a safe spot to land after a big jump.





The place to land on at the other shore is LOVE and COMPASSION .
.
But there are stepping stones on the way:
.
You might be sad - that you haven't felt the sweet bliss of spirituality for a long time...
.
Be with the sadness for a moment - and transform it to longing...
.
Feel the longing:
what exactly are you longing for?
Peace in your heart? The sweetness of bliss?
.
The more you contemplate on these qualities the more your consciousness vibrates in this frequency - allow it to happen.
All these qualities are already waiting inside of you.
.
You transform longing to gratitude.
A good reason to be grateful: You still remember your spiritual nature and home.
.
Gratitude is very close to love.
The purest quality of love is right inside of you:
It is the little light that you perceive in your third eye or/and in your heart.
.
Silently enjoy this sparkle of love.
The source of love is within you, is your very essence, is you.
.
Love your love and your own love will be multiplied a hundredfold
and will nourish you as nothing else can do.
.
Feel this subtle quality expanding gently....


* * * * * * *

The doorway between Level 9 and Level 10 is narrow like a needle's eye.

By going through this little exercise you unknowingly leave everything behind - just by concentrating on something else - and so you are free enough to pass.

* * * * * * *

This is a very female approach - can be done by men and women :)

I will describe a more pragmatic, male approach tomorrow - for men and women as well...

But now I will put my head on my pillow and will sink into this bliss for the night.

Love to you all, Sepia

[Sierra]

Sepia,

I love this thread. Thank you so much. Love and gratitude :)

Sierra

[sepia]

---

Dear Friends :dance:

Here is the promised Guided Meditation - male approach


http://projectavalon.net/nb/Avalon_Meditation%201-10.mp3

Direct Download Link (http://projectavalon.net/nb/Avalon_Meditation%201-10.mp3)

It is actually more a step by step practical work



through all the personal Chakras,
through the astral spheres
and till Level 10.

I hope this is inspiring for you and you enjoy it as much as I did.

Best wishes, Sepia :)
.
Thank you Ilie for all your support. You're faster than the wind.

[norman]

The download link doesn't download an mp3 file.

It downloaded a file with an mp3 extention but it's not playable and it's only a tiny little -1k file.


EDIT: It's FIXED!

[sepia]

----

And here is the Transcript to the Meditation:

7690

:)

[giovonni]

---

Dear Friends :dance:

Here is the promised Guided Meditation - male approach


http://projectavalon.net/nb/Avalon_Meditation%201-10.mp3

Direct Download Link (http://projectavalon.net/nb/Avalon_Meditation%201-10.mp3)

It is actually more a step by step practical work



through all the personal Chakras,
through the astral spheres
and till Level 10.

I hope this is inspiring for you and you enjoy it as much as I did.

Best wishes, Sepia :)
.
Thank you Ilie for all your support. You're faster than the wind.

thank you Sepia for this soothingly meditative respite ~ Your voice was truly angelic with its loving intent :hug:

[sepia]

thank you Sepia for this soothingly meditative respite ~ Your voice was truly angelic with its loving intent :hug:

:o getting in touch with my angelic aspect (higher self) might color my voice -
which hopefully reminds others that they are angels by nature.

But beside that I can also be very human - which is necessary in this world.

Sepia

[K626]

thank you Sepia for this soothingly meditative respite ~ Your voice was truly angelic with its loving intent :hug:

:o getting in touch with my angelic aspect (higher self) might color my voice -
which hopefully reminds others that they are angels by nature.

But beside that I can also be very human - which is necessary in this world.

Sepia

Well said and with your natural humility.

Peace

K

[manny]

thank you Sepia.that was very calming and peaceful,and made so much sense.
even though i did not meditate and just listened to your audio.i felt and was aware of the effects.
you are totatly correct,we each have our own personal journey,and it will manifest itself accordingly to each individual.
but it may not make sense to someone else?
each to their own journey.
thank you for showing giudence.

[sepia]

thank you Sepia.that was very calming and peaceful,and made so much sense.
even though i did not meditate and just listened to your audio.i felt and was aware of the effects.


:) - I might have felt like a lot of words for a Meditation.

But I like to inspire your own silent Meditation. Once we have learned to tune in to a specific quality, a specific sphere it is easer not to go astray.

Love, Sepia

[sepia]

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Chapter 10: Intermission


The function of the Higher Self


We could actually count all the spiritual Levels to the Higher Self.
But they have different functions and Qualities.
.



Level 10 is all compassionate and loving
.
Level 11 is playful, full of colors, movement, forms, creativity -
an endless dance of joy.
.
Level 12 is all knowing... Here we realize that we are everything and all...

.
In spiritual Meditation we become Level 10-, Level 11-, Level 12-Beings, while during daytime, when we are focused on daily consciousness we just remember... more or less.



But if someone doesn't meditate, if someone doesn't deeply understand and incorporate this 'angel-like' quality of love and compassion all this "I ASK MY HIGHER SELF"-thing cannot be truthful at all.

And if you have subtle perception you will be able to tell that this "HIGHER SELF" is either another being on astral level that uses the chance to influence, or it is a function of the own Ego of that person which helps to legitimate certain actions.

This is about as spiritual as when footballers kiss the ground and pray to 'God' before they play.
(Strange God that has to decide who wins the game...)

.

The higher Self gives us a very long rope - we can even get lost.

As a person you can actually do what ever you want - beings are also allowed to be destructive and then experience the result of it - and the Higher Self will not interfere.



The Higer Self allows, GOD allows. This is the spiritual principle.
.
Those who have a WILL and use it are always on astral level - or even below.

* * * * * * *
.
Only if you as a person make a commitment with your higher Self, it will support you.

The commitment can sound like a prayer that you send to the spiritual part of your Self:




-> "You (your Higher Self) must have known why you had me incarnate here."
-> or with other words, because we talk to our Higher Self: "Once I only existed on spiritual Level - I must have known why I created this Incarnation..."
.
Please guide me to be as truthful as possible.
.
Please support me to act in a way that is as ethical, truthful and loving as possible.
.
Please help me to give my most spiritual, truthful and loving to this creation - which is ours.

If you carry a prayer similar to this inside of you, you will be closely connected with your Higher Self. -

You can consult it before you act -
and will not feel any impulse to act, if something is not in alignment to the principles of the Higher Self.


I wish you all a very inspired day, Sepia

[sepia]

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Chapter 11: Divine Love and Compassion on Level 10

----

You might think that contemplating on these high vibrational spiritual qualities has nothing to do with our physical life and the challenges that we will have to confront soon.

The opposite is true - and I'm in good company thinking that way :)

Spiritual Meditation is the only way to pause in life -
it's the only way go beyond the Universe of MIND - Maya - the illusionary and perishable spheres.

This shift enables us to understand the really big picture which is not limited by death. The spiritual viewpoint will allow a much deeper understanding.




The whole game from first Chakra till Level 9
is about getting power, conquer enemies, become stronger
in order to triumph...

This can be a very long journey - maybe a never-ending journey...
some end up all wrapped in heavy loads of Karma unable to get liberation without help from others.

Of course nobody likes to be a victim and to fight back is an instinctive impuls. Humanity and many other races go like this for eons.

They started fighting with their hands - developed generations of weapons - stronger and stronger... even language is often used as weapon...

but it is just more of the same - endless fights and no peace in sight.




On level 10 you drop all weapons.

Here we learn to love. And everything changes - inside and outside.
You change your personal timeline.

The rules are different in spiritual speres:



From the first Chakra on we need to have a defined space. Our personality should somehow be surrounded by an energetic balloon. There is a border which it is needed and important for our wellbeing.
.
In the spiritual realm love doesn't need a border.
You are this sparkle of consciousness that is divine and is able to radiate through the Universe without limitations.
(But it doesn't just happen like that. Most of us have forgotten who we are as spiritual beings. That's what Meditation is for: to remind us - and to enable us to hold this quality of beingness.
.
Spiritual love enables us to become one with every being and every thing. Actually it is love's nature to solve borders.
.
But please leave this quality in heaven -
you bring yourself into trouble when you mix the playing fields. :nono:


Love on the fourth Chakra:
You meet other people, you are compassionate, but you stay yourself and are aware that the other person has his own timeline, his own karma.
Giving and taking should be in balance here on planet earth. We don't do anybody a favor if we give too much, and we don't do us a favor if we take too much.
.
Love on Level 10: (You can try this in Meditation)
You let go of all fear. All beings that you meet on this level are on the same spiritual frequency like you are.
.
There is an endless giving - no need to take because you're not missing anything. Your spiritual heart is always in a rich overflow, it is actually the source of love itself.
.
Love adds and grows bigger and bigger... After some time you will feel that you have the same love for every single being.
.
We love the being - not the Ego and don't have to agree with the Ego's actions
.
Some of the beings got lost, became destructive, they hate, may even have turned satanic...
Tears come to my eyes when I become aware of their pain they have gone through and the tremendous pain they pass on to others a hundred- or a thousandfold.
.
Then I remind myself, that even these people have a divine sparkle inside - and by doing this I give them a chance... Maybe the only one they have?
.
All come from the numinous, from the same spiritual source as every one.
.
* * * * * * *



When I say SOURCE I mean the Numinous, Unity, the eternal, highest quality of consciousness, which is undescribable, is nothing and everything at the same time...
.
This is different to 'the Source' mentioned by Inelia or Bill, that obviously has intentions, uses language and tells a person what to do. -
This clarification is needed because I use the same word - but with a different meaning.

If voices are heard - and it happens to many people - they by definition come from astral levels.
It can be a tool of the astral part of the Self - or it can be an external, astral being giving orders or comments, or such voices can even be generated by machines - and of course there is also a being behind the machine.

* * * * * * *

Best wishes, Sepia

[sepia]

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Addendum to Level 10:

We can learn to leave the stage of the play - in Meditation.

In post 129 and 131 (Audio) I have tried to show ways to do so.
.
Here in short:



Dis-identify from your body, your role, your image...
.
Look from outside - but not even like the director of the play
who gives orders how to change some gestures, some text...
.
...but more like an angel sitting on a cloud - looking onto the stage with love and compassion - leave everything up to the free decision of the players - don't interfere.
Relax your hands - let go of every impulse to act.

.
....and NO: I didn't say this is LIFE - but this is Meditation.

This is how you learn to take an external viewpoint. And this is needed, because:


Problems can not be solved from the level they are created.

* * * * * * *

Enjoy the sweetness of spiritual love and heal your heart. - We all got injured...

Sepia :)

[sepia]

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Chapter 12: Joy and playful creativity on Level 11

----

Let's continue our Meditation and connect to the higher octave of the fifth Chakra.

- Bring your focus to your third eye - relax...
- Don't try to lift yourself out of the body - but let go of the identification with the body.
- See yourself as a free spiritual being rather than an incarnated being.
- You don't have to go anywhere. - The vast space will open up from here by changing the vibration.

You should see the joyful relief of those who have learned how to leave all the heaviness behind :)

When I write this, I myself resonate with the subtlety of this frequency of Level 11. Let me reach out for you and remind you of the absolute freedom, fearlessness, pure joy, laughter, sound, light and lightheartedness, colors, dance, multidimensional patterns of energy moving...

These are all qualities of our essence - very well hidden behind layers of fear.:unsure:


Why nothing hurts on Level 11




Beings who come here no longer have attention on the physical or astral universes.
So all the heaviness connected to Level 1 - 9 falls off.
.
Even the last traces of heaviness from level 10 - which is love and compassion is left behind.
.
(On level 10 many beings are paying attention to the pain and misery of others who reside on lower planes.
- How far have our sisters and brothers separated from there true nature... this often drives tears into our eyes. How we can help I will discuss later.)
.
No 'loss' of a friends is weighing us down. - Every being can be found.
If we join them on spiritual sphere the meeting is pure and joyful -
if the other being has drifted to lower frequencies we will be able to spiritually reach out -
or we will accept the dynamics that this being has chosen for an experience...
.
We are able to create sparkles of consciousness and put them out in order to play with them. And we can take them back again or leave them out there...
.
No other being can put us in a prison. Any prison only exists as a thought-form on astral level - and it is a lie, an illusion for those who dwell in spiritual quality.
.
If we choose to have a form we create one in an instant.
The 'form' will never be solid enough that anybody could hold on to it.
.
Nothing can be taken from us: All we have is ourselves.
.
We are beyond MIND and dwell in a very subtle quality of consciousness which is far more subtle than "astral traveling", energetic work, words, mental constructs, etc.
.
We play - we don't act with intention.
.
We are were we wish to be. Distance is no criteria... We are free to move forward and backwards in time and space -
.
or expressed more precisely: we can be everywhere in eternal time-space.



Needless to say that this ability can not be (mis-)used for any investigative tasks.
You would not be able to find any weapons in other countries...


Everything is an expression of absolutely free will.
There are no means to force anyone...

* * * * * * *

Enjoy the beauty of your / of all spiritual essence.

Love Sepia

[sepia]

----

Nature in it's diversity is like the beauty of level 11 crystallized as matter.

----

Musicians, composers, creative people most often have very strong antennas to this level.

A good artist is able to manifest a piece of heaven here on earth.

Endless creative ideas of effortlessness, elegance and beauty. -



Mozarts music represents Level 11 extremely well,

as a brilliant rainbow does

or the lovely dance of butterflies over a blooming meadow.



I hope you have many lighthearted moments today.

With my love to you, Sepia :)

[sepia]

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Chapter 13: Unlimited awareness, spiritual understanding on Level 12

----

We went through many steps of understanding and development,
we became aware of different frequencies and
have learned that every frequency of consciousness is like a Universe of itself.
.
.
As soon as we are able to transcend all the human dependencies -


of course they are there to a certain extent as long as we live in a body...
we are growing into highest spiritual understanding of who we are:
.



The experience of a subtle individuality is still there,
there is still this 'I' - but there is no trace of pride or other Ego-aspects that were so terribly important on astral levels.
.
We are whole.
There is nothing we would need from others because our most inner core is the Numinous and so we are absolutely complete.
.
At the same time we understand: we are all and everything.
If we 'look' around we see parts of the devine not in any ways separated from us.
.
This is full responsibility and love of a mature spirituality.
.
We are Brahma - Vishnu - Shiva
.
means we are able to create, to sustain and to de-create.
.
No other being is higher - and this fills us with greatest humility and dignity.
A divine being under divine beings.
.
The question of belonging is not existing.
We are far beyond groups, labels, colors, religions...
Why should we belong to one group in order to fight against any others?
Why should we betray one group for the benefit of any others?
.
Here we reach an understanding which leads into the highest quality of Ethics.

Looked from this spiritual viewpoint:
.
the main reason for being within this game is to be - and not to do.
.
Beingness has often a stronger effect than Fight.
.
Karma takes it's course - no spiritual being is playing the role of the Angel of revenge, because it is not needed.
Karma playes out naturally all by itself and defines much of the game (not everything - because new things can be started at any time) between Level 1 - 9.
.
Those who separate themselves from spirituality and love
pay the prize of being separated from spirituality and love - it's as simple as that.
But it's agony. -


There is more to say:
- more about Level 13 / 14 and how all this knowledge can be applied...

Love, Sepia

[motherlove]

Thank you Sepia for the lessons they are of great value and so appreciated. Best Wishes.

[magicmanx]

My Dearest Sepia,

Thank you for this wonderful thread and the knowledge you gave us. You were the most natural choice to head up the spiritual section of the new forum.

Just in case you forgot what I wrote to you a few weeks ago I will repeat it again.

Stay strong Sepia...be who you are and when it might get a little tough or your beautiful light dims a little always remember that there is someone whom you have never met holding your space for you until you return back to being the fabulous full force shining light that you are.
I promise I am there for everyone and I promise I will stand as strong as I can to protect and guard the sacred space we all have and own. Nobody needs to know my name other than it is done with all my love and all the compassion I can give.

Never ever forget that you are truly loved.

[Smoke Me A Kipper]

Amazing thread.

Smoke :n)

[greybeard]

Hi Sepia
How are you?
No lesson- since 3rd June,

Chris

[Amer]

the main reason for being within this game is to be - and not to do.
...........Beingness has often a stronger effect than Fight.

............Those who separate themselves from spirituality and love
pay the prize of being separated from spirituality and love - it's as simple as that.
But it's agony.

These have suddenly hit me like a train, like the scene where the car gets stuck on the rail tracks and can't move, the train came at me, passed right through me and left me shattered but at the same time a more whole person.
I lost track of being because I went outside of myself, of my truth, took on some other form of truth, dressed it up and tried to make it mine when all the time it is about loving being inside your own skin. But the paradox is that it had to happen. I had to give away my energy in order to realise how much it meant to me, how precious it was, I had to touch the negative in order to know how beautiful and soul-fulfilling it is to embrace all that is good, truly good.
I'm not sure I'm making sense to anyone but I had to write it down so that it could be like a promise to remember :)

Thank you Sepia. You are special and I hope that you are well
Amer xx

[sepia]

Hi Sepia
How are you?
No lesson- since 3rd June,

Chris

Thank you for asking my friend. -

Yes, I'm getting ready for the next lesson.

The battle field didn't seem to be the right place for the teaching...

Sepia

[manny]

glad to here you are well Sepia,i was concerned you may have left due to recent events.
love

[greybeard]

Yes Sepia
Neither of us are warriors yet Jesus Sword was the S word of truth.
The word being mightier than the sword.

You words carry much weight yet are of the light Sepia.

Good to see you.

Chris

[sepia]

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Going home

----

There are several reasons to go back home into the most subtle spiritual quality of our being.
.
.


All reasons are good reasons:

Sometimes the reason is joy, gratefulness, love...

Sometimes it's suffering...
.

What once was a playing-field turns into a battle-field -
.
where Ego's keep hurting each other with sharp (s)words in order to conquer... to prove... to be better than others -
.
we can expect that more and more layers will be add to the topics discussed -
.
by people who want to make the world a better place...
.
We see all the damaged hearts... and expect more damage to happen -
.
from time to time a light blinks up for a short moment... when Greybeard and others point out spiritual values.
.
And then the longing to go home becomes irresistible.



The stronger our inner longing is



> the softer we will lean towards our spiritual essence and the easier we merge with it...
.
> This is how we become one with Unity.
.
> This is where the 'I' and the 'me' is dying -
.
> Time to rest. - We pause.
.
> Tensions fall off because there is nothing for them to stick on.
.
> No resistance, no thoughts, no emotions, nothing...

And some moments or hours later we will be 'reborn from the light' -
like waking up - but awakened :)

And the world is still the same - the struggle goes on and on and on...

Millions and millions of years - again and again...


But sometimes spiritual things even happen on battle fields...


With love - like always, Sepia

[sepia]

the main reason for being within this game is to be - and not to do.
...........Beingness has often a stronger effect than Fight.

............Those who separate themselves from spirituality and love
pay the prize of being separated from spirituality and love - it's as simple as that.
But it's agony.

[...]
I lost track of being because I went outside of myself, of my truth, took on some other form of truth, dressed it up and tried to make it mine when all the time it is about loving being inside your own skin.

But the paradox is that it had to happen. I had to give away my energy in order to realise how much it meant to me, how precious it was, I had to touch the negative in order to know how beautiful and soul-fulfilling it is to embrace all that is good, truly good.
I'm not sure I'm making sense to anyone but I had to write it down so that it could be like a promise to remember :)

Thank you Sepia. You are special and I hope that you are well
Amer xx

Oh, it makes such a lot of sense to me - and makes me happy to hear this from you.

Remembering - yes - this is the secret.

And only by embracing it honestly and with love every day this wisdom stays alive...
and doesn't turn into a photograph, two dimensional and dead.

I am exactly as special as you are :)

Sepia

[manny]

the physical world is and has been so hard and demanding.
can,t wait to throw off this heavy coat.
even though i know that when we move on we will laugh and cry at our memories,learning in the phsiycal.
and we will judge ourselfs,for there is no right or wrong but only self.
but it is the material world that is stopping us from developing our selfs.
there can be so much confusion.

if we can enhance our understanding here and now,then it is a true gift.
but it really does not matter as we will all get there.

so when life gets you down as it will do.
look for the spark,or ask someone to help you.
for a simple word or sentence may help you on your way.
thank you Sepia thank you Greybeard.

[sepia]

.
* * * * * * *
.
In moments of grace the waves in the lake high up in the mountains calm down,
even the wind of thoughts is there no more...
not the tiniest ripple on the surface...
.
Then the sky is perfectly mirrored in the lake
and you won't even know where the sky meets the water of the lake...

This is the miracle of becoming one in silence of meditation - as explained by Indian Mystics.
.
* * * * * * *
.
(This has always been an inspiration for me - so I told it in my own words.)

In humble service to my readers, Sepia

[edina]

Sepia, I shared this with a friend the other day, and in reading your last post, it seemed to fit here. Thank you for being you, love and grace, e

"In generosity and helping others, be like a river.
In compassion and grace, be like the sun." Rumi

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSA4OnuQmZcHCA7jjtK79SOrLzYrKVqTh-9tNaLLQhid52Zec6L

[giovonni]

.
* * * * * * *
.
In moments of grace the waves in the lake high up in the mountains calm down,
even the wind of thoughts is there no more...
not the tiniest ripple on the surface...
.
Then the sky is perfectly mirrored in the lake
and you won't even know where the sky meets the water of the lake...

This is the miracle of becoming one in silence of meditation - as explained by Indian Mystics.
.
* * * * * * *
.
(This has always been an inspiration for me - so I told it in my own words.)

In humble service to my readers, Sepia

:)

http://ih2.redbubble.net/work.2288869.6.flat,550x550,075,f.mountain-lake-switzerland.jpg

[sepia]

:)

http://ih2.redbubble.net/work.2288869.6.flat,550x550,075,f.mountain-lake-switzerland.jpg

A mountain lake in Switzerland: What a beautiful surprise Giovonni :hug:

It's just around the corner... no need to visit Lake Mansarovar at Mount Kailash then - :)

http://www.ruth-huber.ch/Mansarovar.JPG

...and the experience described in the last post can be found even closer...

Sepia

[sepia]

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Chapter 14: The Numinous

----

'The Numinous' is my choice of word for the highest spiritual quality.
For my perception it resonates well with our time and culture.

In India numerous names exist of which ANAMI (nameless) is my favorite.
It gives my sweet shivers along the spine like LOVE running through my system.
Might have to do with previous lifetimes in that culture...
.
.

The Numinous is indescribable - It's paradox...


It is the opposite of Diversity or Multiplicity which is seen in the Universe in it's physical, astral and spiritual aspects.
.
It is the source of everything -
.
It is nothing at all! - but everything in potential -
.
It is unity - so there is no subject watching an object -
and if you die into this quality you won't see or experience anything -
.
it doesn't make a difference if you spend 'here' 1 second or one million years -
although the realities around change in the meantime.

.
.


To call this quality GOD seems to 'dangerous' to me.
Most people think they know who or what GOD is
but still they talk about many different things, beings, philosophical aspects -
so I'm not going into this discussion.
.
.

What is the point in melting into this quality - if there is nothing at all?
.
There are 3 major topics to this:
.

1. What happens just before entering?
2. What happens after we come back?
3. How does this influence your existence?


Sepia

P.S. I haven't forgotten Level 13... :)

[sepia]

* * * * * * *

The Numinous: 1. What happens just before entering the Numinous?

* * * * * * *

You are challenged to deal with the biggest fear in human nature:

It is the fear to disappear - to be pulled into a deep dark hole and never come back.

Many of us have experienced this fear in lonesome nights... a real nightmare... often the biggest we suffer from. Some people arrange all their activities for not feeling it. Some drink or take drugs to escape this abyss of the unknown.

And here after having done the all this spiritual work and Meditation we reach the exact opposite end of the scale.
.
.
This work brought us there:
.

We healed the personal Chakras as described in this thread - and much more...
We have taken back all the worldly intentions...
We have learned to find our balance and center inside...
We learned about the astral spheres and have taken back our intentions from there...
(no more power games! No winning! No proving to be stronger and better!)
.
Then we re-learned about our true spiritual nature
- we are Love and Compassion, level 10
- we are Joy, Dance, Sound, Sreativity, level 11
- we are Everything and All and therefore we have complete understanding of the spiritual, astral and physical creation.



(Okay: most of us need 'some' time to remember fully... it's a vast Universe... :)
but the principles are rather simple...)

and here we have the chance to realize our divine nature.
(I say 'have the chance' because some people meditate with 'closed perception' and therefore will not understand. - Instead be interested, be awake, be open. Meditation is a great journey!)
.
.
Now it is time for the ultimate step: We enter the Numinous - we allow it to happen...

And we don't do it to disappear for ever -
but we do it as if we would disappear for ever. -----> Paradox? Yes! :o

So this last step can be done when our love to the highest quality of Consciousness has grown bigger
than our fear to die and to disappear.


Don't worry - you will come back. Life doesn't end that quickly.

Love, Sepia

[sepia]

* * * * * * *

When I entered the Numinous for the first time...

* * * * * * *

After years of spiritual work and meditation I finally this last veil - (early nineties)

I knew I could drop the last little attachment to my sense of 'I' and could melt into the Numinous, the ANAMI....

And it was a very quick question: 'Am I ready to let it happen right now?'
.

I also quickly asked myself:
-> Are there any candles burning?
-> I anything cooking in the kitchen?
.
And although I expected to die right away it was clear to me:
.


This was what I have worked for during the last years
- so I allowed it to happen
- and lost consciousness...
Some time later - of course - I was here again... :)

And I knew who I am... ANAMI - nameless, eternal, divine consciousness.

Bliss

As the Mystics say: You give up all - and you will gain all.

Sepia

[sepia]

.
* * * * * * *

The Numinous: 2. What happens after you come back?

* * * * * * *


The Mystics say: The drop merges with the ocean.


So the most obvious question is:

Is the drop still the same when it comes out? - Am I still I ?




Yes I am still me - just me in pure essence and nothing else.

And I am because I'm not a drop containing many molecules.

I'm not even a Atom, containing electrons, protons, neutrons and what else...

But I am ONE.

I am one spark of divine consciousness - which at the same time is the whole.
.
.


.
...or as "The Master of the Key" puts it:
.

"You are not just a crumb of the cake that can become one with the cake.
But you can become the whole cake."

.

(In 1998 Whitley Strieber had a mysterious visitor in his Hotel Room in the middle of the night.
He had the most extraordinary conversation and Strieber called the visitor "The Master of the Key".
The book is re-published. I highly recommend it:

http://www.amazon.com/Key-True-Encounter-Whitley-Strieber/dp/1585428698 )
.
.
If you come back from the Numinous you realize your true nature.

This means to be reborn from the light. This is resurrection in spirit.

Go all the way and find out yourself !

With my very best wishes,

Sepia :)

[sepia]

* * * * * * *

P.S. 2. What happens after you come back?

* * * * * * *

After some practice we can develop the attitude to melt into the Numinous during your sleep.*



(* I personally prefer to meditate in a absolute open awareness,
but before going into sleep I go to all the way in order to spend the main part of the night in the Numinous.)

And after coming back make sure to spend some time enjoying the sweet dessert :)
Allow this bliss to fill you completely - every cell, every Chakra, your energy-Field,
it's like sweet nectar... the certainty of having visited the true home...

The Numinous is the only truth existing.

Everything else is just an aspect of it: Like the leg of the Elephant, or the ear, or the tail, or the trunk...


Of course you know this - but it was lovely to express it again before going to sleep - well actually before diving into the honey pot :)

I love it - I love you...

[sepia]

* * * * * * *

The Numinous: 3. How can this experience influence your existence?

* * * * * * *
.
.
First priority:



In order to live a spiritual live we will give the the first priority to the Numinous -
the purest spiritual essence, the Higher Self.


.
Second priority:



The 'I', the 'me' - which is the foundation of the Ego - can only be number 2 -
as Servant of the spiritual essence.

We need a certain amount of 'I' and 'me', of 'Ego-Power' if you will. There is nothing wrong with it.
It gives you the strength to handle life.

As long as its guidance is firmly rooted in the wisdom of the higher Self (Level 10 / 11 / 12) the Ego is well kept,
will not grow too big and will not do too much damage.
The vibration will stay high and will free itself again and again from the kind of 'gravity' that makes things so terribly dense.

The light of the higher Self will shine through our thoughts, words and actions…
(Karma is always involved as long as we have to keep a body survive. But it can be light-weighted...)
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Third priority:



What ever is out there in this creation and on astral spheres is number 3.

Only if we are in line with our essence
we can be here for the creation, beings, plants, animals... in the best quality possible.
We can be the carriers of light…
(...and still as people we will not be perfect...)
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* * * * * * *
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I might have mentioned it before:


True spirituality is not making a lot of noise, is not shiny, not dramatic…
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There is humility, wisdom, dignity… Love, compassion… Understanding…
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...with a very broad and wide view for the creation in time and space from a timeless and spaceless viewpoint.
.
The truthful spiritual journey is a narrow path…
.
You will meet friends in spirit and will 'walk' in silence - understanding is beyond words.
.
The broad astral boulevard is noisy and crowded - with beings and people craving for influence, power and self importance…
.
This has always been like this all through history and will not change.
.
Every single being makes his choice - every day - again and again...

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Best wishes, Sepia

[sepia]

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Chapter 15:....G O D

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At this point of my Seminar I like to look at the GOD - principle.

In my understanding the personal spiritual state plays a much greater role in our understanding of 'GOD' then the religion.

It depends how much memory of the spiritual qualities are still awake within us - not buried by programming, trauma, dogma, karma…

Our 'GOD' will change and should change as we go along on our spiritual journey.




I have described all the worldly / personal Levels, Chakra 1 - 6
the astral spheres, Level 7 - 9
and the spiritual realms, Level 10 - 12
as well as the Numinous, the Unity, the source of all the beings…


.
The spiritual journey can give us spiritual freedom and can enable us to choose through which 'window' we look into the creation.

Every day we change our frequency of consciousness many times and so we look through different windows.
We communicate differently to a little child than we do to our boss or our friend, a patient or an animal, etc.

This is always a shift in vibration, a shift of energetic level.

And during Meditation (and during the time the body sleeps, if we have trained that) you may return to the highest frequency…


We can be angels during sleep - and humans when we deal with worldly things.


Our degree of development and understanding defines our 'concept' (sorry) and perception of 'GOD'…

And it is helpful to know, what understanding and concept others have.


I'd like to explain some of them...

Dogon

The graphic is here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17056-Enlightenment-Practical-steps&p=187281&viewfull=1#post187281

[sepia]

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GOD: ...1. Often people start with a self-made GOD

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Assuming that there is something bigger out there many create a GOD-image according to their preferences.

And because it is easier to talk to 'someone' they personify their God and address their preyers to HIM - (rarely to 'HER' or a 'IT'.)

They expect GOD to be many different things:


> loving and comforting,
> giving rewards or punishing,
> to be just and fair,
> to be unpredictable and mysterious,
> or even to be all powerful and frightening,
> but mostly to be well-meaning ------> but for whom?

This is the 'God' the soccer-players address when they kiss the ground before playing… :)

Praying people usually don't ask for justice - but they ask for grace, for a special boon.


It seems blasphemic... but for me it is crucial to ask who is on the receiving end of the prayer!

I have seen people who talk to themselves. They treat their God like a friendly neighbor or like a lovely dwarf in their garden. -

This is one of the many possibilities and actually harmless…
.
.
The whole thing becomes dangerous when this 'Throne' that is offered by the worshiper is taken over by an astral being...

And many astral beings just wait for such an opportunity.

It is so easy for them to give some unusual experiences and ready is the deal: They have a person to influence and guide. -
This is how a self-made God becomes alive, and suddenly the image starts to talk… Or the voice is inside of the head...
Signs all around, everything seems to make sense suddenly...

And the person is happy, feels guided, privileged... and actually the downward spiral of dependency just starts to turn...

The influencing astral being can be more or less powerful, more or less destructive - in the worst case it tries out how far it can go…

(Quite often we hear from those who were convinced GOD had ordered them to kill. - These things always happened - it's the original MindControl with no machines involved. - The astral beings are able to influence an emotionally weak person to kill others, or are able to influence a person in a weak moment to commit suicide.)


* * * * * * *

I'm sorry that I have to stress out again how careful we are all kept from true spirituality.


Please bear with me. - Divinity is inside of you - and you know it. All the rest is just good to know.

Love, Sepia

[sepia]

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GOD: ...2. The all powerful astral GOD's, the Elohim of the old Testament

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'Elohim' as mentioned in the old Testament is a plural, means GODS not GOD.

Many on this Forum are experts in this area - I'm not.

The technology of those beings was/is highly advanced and we find ancient remains on all continents. (Stonehenge, Adams Calender, Pyramids...)
After the great flood the Anunnaki have created the human bodies after their own image.
But other 'groups' are active as well - and they are in war with each other, as we know from the old indian scriptures.

They keep well hidden - and their influence, power and abilities is beyond human comprehension.


One could call them Gods - depends from the meaning we give to this word -

their actions are powerful… but divine?

They have their own agenda and are more like controllers of a big experiment.

Human beings all over the place have tried to find ways to keep them in a good mood to be treated mercifully by them…

We can only speculate about their plans but don't really know.

Dogon

[DoubleHelix]

After the great flood the Anunnaki have created the human bodies after their own image.


Hey Sepia, Love your work !

I'm certainly no expert (and would appreciate others to chime in) but I was under the impression that the Anunnaki created mankind in there own image many years before the great flood took place.

[sepia]

After the great flood the Anunnaki have created the human bodies after their own image.


Hey Sepia, Love your work !

I'm certainly no expert (and would appreciate others to chime in) but I was under the impression that the Anunnaki created mankind in there own image many years before the great flood took place.

Well, we know for sure that there were several high cultures on this planet for millions of years.
(Petrified human footprints are found beside footprints of Dinosaurs over 100 Millions of years old - just as one example.)

But after the great flood (this vast event is described by many cultures on our planet) humanity needed some support and the Gods interbred with humans in Mesopotamia.
Please check the story of Enki and Enlil, Gods of Sumer... Zecharia Sitchin is only one of the sources.

This might be interesting for you as well: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20586-Has-white-man-colonised-planet-Earth&p=219577&viewfull=1#post219577

Sepia

[sepia]

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GOD: ...3. The heavenly helpers.

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Spiritual help:

Oh yes - they are around too. We call them guardian Angels.

Some of them support children - without the celestial support many of them would not reach adulthood…

It should be understood as a service which is done in alignment to the higher self of the children -
and sometimes to the higher self of adults - to make sure that their purpose can be fulfilled.

These beings are not motivated by their Ego - and they never feed Egos.
They don't take orders - but serve and facilitate according to spiritual laws.

Often there is nothing they can do to change the outcome because it would go against the law of Karma.

This help comes unexpected and has a very pure and simple quality.

It is the opposite of being dramatic and so no egotism, pride or narcissism can be sticked to such an experience.

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Astral help:

The quality can change very quickly.

'Angels' (spiritual beings) only answer if we ask for things that support our spiritual growth.

As soon as we ask, beg, pray for earthly things our prayers will be heard by astral beings.

This is a hard one, I know:

If we pray for health, wealth, influence, power - even for the ability to heal… we are heard in the astral spheres.

Many astral beings are willing to help. But they will play according to their own rules: Every thing has it's prize.

It's like the Story of "Dr. Faustus" who asked for eternal youth and had to pay with his soul.

When we allow these beings to play GOD in our lives,
they will keep us within the astral prison, within the wheel of reincarnation and death.

(The Theme of "Dr. Faustus" was known before J.W. Goethe wrote his piece. But it was also his personal story and he kept working on it till he died.)

* * * * * * *

In short:

We can find helpers for every project -
but the question is what the prize is and if we are willing to pay it.

Best wishes, Sepia

[sepia]

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GOD: …4. Highest spiritual beings

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Also these beings exist - thank to… - oh well... :)

and these beings can be contacted...
.


Some of them have never been incarnated as humans on this planet.
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Others have lived lives and have succeeded on their spiritual journey, found liberation and enlightenment.
You wouldn't believe how rare this is. Just a few in millions.
.
(But you can be one of them. Every one has the same potential.)

.
Most of the people are passionate, want to fight, want to prove right
and by doing so they get more and more tangled.


In order to be free and stay free completely different qualities are needed:


calm wisdom - which is knowledge and love together
.
understanding for the creation and it's rules
.
and lots and lots of patience.
.
And beside that the karmic bonds have to be solved and what was created has to be de-created.


The cosmic play goes on and on and on and after having gone through many cycles
these are the beings who prefer to remain in a blissful eternal state, fully conscious.



----
If this sounds boring to you - this means that you haven't have enough yet…
and this is all right.
Take all the time… there is plenty of it....:wave:
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Spiritual beings who understand the game will no longer interfere, will no longer get involved.
As soon as they would do so they would loose their spiritual freedom.

But they will always be your best friend in your inner work.
They will never put themselves over you but meet you respectfully on 'eye-level',
fully acknowledging that we all are the same and come from the same source.

They are divine - but will never play GOD.

They remind you of what you are - and are able to do so because they have fully realized.

Sepia

[greybeard]

The moment you take up a position know that you are identifying with an illusion

Thats a quote from "A Course in Miracles"

It reminds me not to take my thoughts too seriously.

This world is perfect as it is because it gives one a choice every moment.
We are either enhancing or diminishing the energy field of collective consciousness with every thought word or deed.
Are we uplifting or demoting people we meet?

What we do is not that important it is what we are that radiates out that is uplifting, particularly so if one is of a high spiritual vibration.
One enlightened being raises the consciousness of millions.
There may be less that 40 enlightened in this world at the moment.
When one becomes enlightened the whole cosmos rejoices,

I believe that number may increase dramatically soon.

Sepia you are an inspiration to many.

Chris

Namaste

[sepia]

Sepia you are an inspiration to many.
Chris


...and so are you my dear friend.

Thank you for your beautiful post. I bow my head in respect of all you do. [edit: for all you are and for what radiates through you.]


When one becomes enlightened the whole cosmos rejoices,
I believe that number may increase dramatically soon.


- YES -

Dogon

[sepia]

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GOD: …5. Through darkness to light.

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It might sound quite clumsy - but it is one of my most transforming experiences.
I write it down for all those who don't yet trust their own divine quality inside.


After years of spiritual exercises and meditation I found myself in a deep crisis:

An enormous feeling of unworthiness was suddenly overwhelming me.
It happened unexpected because I was actually convinced to have good self-respect and self-esteem.
But suddenly all was gone - and replaced by shame and guilt for being the way I was.

At that time I addressed my prayers to a (somehow) personified God…

But - how for God-sake would any GOD in heavens welcome one who was as unworthy as I was?

I didn't count the hours I cried. Some endless weeks of desperation went by.

The pivot-point of my life so far seemed lost...
Where was the continuation of my path?

But then a revolutionary spark was rising up inside of me and quickly grew bigger... - I thought:
.

"If this GOD I'm talking to is the creator of every part of the creation
'he' doesn't have a different choice but to love it! - Me included." :)

.
Hey! - At this very moment the whole concept of an external GOD dissolved. It simply disappeared.
At the same time I experienced an extreme internal uplift -
and from that (new) spiritual viewpoint I felt infinite love for this person - as I did for the whole creation.

All is inside of us. We all read it a hundred times.
But it is a tremendous moment when it is experienced. Only then it becomes true.


With my love to you

Sepia

[Laura Elina]

What an inspirational thread, and an eye opener, the dangers of "playing within the astral planes" hit home... Really developed a bad addiction to going "there", had a tough time growing up (didn't we all, lol) so as a kid I would come home from school and go to bed as early as I could to escape so to speak(after discovering I could do a bunch of exciting stuff while "asleep"), fall asleep, wake myself up and think to myself what I'd do this time in that playground, the so called magic tricks are enticing indeed.. But oh well, didn't know better, now trying to establish a relationship with my higher self, and quite happy with that, and really happy with being able to say that I don't want any signs (like I used to, number patterns, asking for feathers and black cats to cross the street and what not, lol, just to know I was doing "the right thing"), I know you're there, smiling at me and I'm smiling at you and it's wonderful. We got a lot of work to do.

A big thank you to Sepia, knowledge shared here is of great value.

[sepia]

What an inspirational thread, and an eye opener, the dangers of "playing within the astral planes" hit home... Really developed a bad addiction to going "there", had a tough time growing up (didn't we all, lol) so as a kid I would come home from school and go to bed as early as I could to escape so to speak(after discovering I could do a bunch of exciting stuff while "asleep"), fall asleep, wake myself up and think to myself what I'd do this time in that playground, the so called magic tricks are enticing indeed.. But oh well, didn't know better, now trying to establish a relationship with my higher self, and quite happy with that, and really happy with being able to say that I don't want any signs (like I used to, number patterns, asking for feathers and black cats to cross the street and what not, lol, just to know I was doing "the right thing"), I know you're there, smiling at me and I'm smiling at you and it's wonderful. We got a lot of work to do.

A big thank you to Sepia, knowledge shared here is of great value.

You're so very welcome. I try to put the essence of my work into these posts and am glad if some souls see what it is.

The simplicity of spirituality after having left the temptations of the astral spheres behind... you know how it feels.

" I know you're there, smiling at me and I'm smiling at you and it's wonderful. "

Yes, no boundaries - just being part of the same soundless sound...

With my love to you

Sepia

[sepia]

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I was asked:


We all need friends. Human friends, but also spiritual friends.

Can you say something about friendship?


I didn't expect that finding an answer would give me such a hard time :unsure:

And since then I have mentally 'written' a whole book on friendship...

But let me leave this up to Giovonni: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?255-Friends

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We have all be disappointed by people we considered friends -

We have to learn our lessons - adapt - grow - or we become frustrated, disappointed, traumatized even...

During the life most of us will change our filters: Instead of only seeing great bodies, attracting smiles, telling eyes, lovely hands...
.

we start to see beings - and we are seen as a being.
.
Our signal will be a different one and is perceived by those who are aware of this more subtle frequency.

You might have had this attitude since childhood - I didn't - the learning went step by step -
.

Still it is not easy: I see the potential and never know what programming is at work...
.
But some truthful souls were found, interested into a spirituality that can be called such,
some who have defined ethics for them-selves...


And yet we have to accept to be alone, everyone is different, everyone is on his own track
(not on mine... they came for their own purpose)
there will be expectations, disappointment, frustration, hurt...

All this is much easier to handle if we are able to see each other as spiritual beings after having met on these levels.

This quality from being to being is eternal - physical death cannot do anything to it.

* * * * * * *

Those who have become whole, those who have discovered their inner completeness
will be able to enjoy others in there wholeness and completeness.
.

And then we meet on this stage in our role as people, limited and far from being perfect

and can have a good laugh ;)


In spiritual friendship

Sepia

[WhiteFeather]

Thank You Sepia, Great Thread.

[sepia]

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More on Friendship…

* * * * * * *


Let me go one step further and explain something that became true to me many years ago.

I spent a lot of time in a loving an compassionate meditation - holding all kind of beings within my 'space'.

For a certain time I saw them as brothers and sisters…

But then another Transformation happened

and then I started to see them as me… me all around...:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
.

It first happened when I went shopping:
Suddenly I saw me coming towards me in the form of an old man, a little child, its mother,
and all the other people: me - me - me - in a different costumes with a different history and a different destiny…

I started laughing, had to shake myself and rub my face for a moment…
then I decided to be me again (singular),
and that I wanted to see others as OTHERS - just in order to keep the situation simple and to do my shopping.

.
This experience gave me a deep trust
that there will always be the exact right person present when ever I would need help.

It doesn't need to be the person I called my friend before.
It can be anybody -
It will be anybody -
because this person is already included into my love and the support is nothing but natural.

Just me in a different form...

And of course it works the other way around as well.

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Please note:
I write about myself not because I think I'm in any way special.
It happens out of respect for your right of free decision.
I don't want to influence you - you will know best if this topic can be of any value for you or not.

Sepia / Dogon

[Charlie Pecos]

All are one, there is no separation. Being separate is only an illusion. Upon experiencing this, kindness and compassion for other selves flows freely. What a beautiful future we have in store for all of us!

Many thanks and much love to you Sepia, for your wonderful teachings. :hug:

[Elly]

Thank you Sepia for sharing your knowledge and experience. Your words have been like a companion to me.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

This thread is one of the greater contributions to the Avalon community and I hope I see more like it in the future.

[sepia]

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Time to bump this thread...

My teaching is almost complete.
Many things cannot be expressed in words and for many things a public Forum is not the right place...

But if you have questions feel free to ask.

...and be sure the spiritual presence is always there to be contacted telepathically for spiritual support.

With best wishes,

Sepia

[music]

If the instinctive levels (first, second, third Chakra) feeling-aspect (fourth Chakra) are integrated, we can be at our best in the third eye.

I studied kundalini for many years under a gifted man. In fact, I thought I had been studying it for 6 months when he arrived one morning and announced "OK, you are now ready for the yoga of kundalini". Interestingly, I was never given any answers, nor told whether my experiences or findings were "right" or "wrong", yet having been recommended this thread (thank you meeradas), in this, the first random post I have read, I find similarities in what I have just posted today here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34022-Find-the-Key)

It's short, so I'll put it here :)

"Within the body, our heart is the place where we can most aid our ascension process. The first 3 chakras can be seen as analogous to the first 3 dimensions. The physical - structure - a house. The next dimension corresponds to the heart, and here our house becomes a home through the action of Love. The higher chakras reflect the outer, starting with the throat - the voice - the word - intention outwards - creation. The higher bodily chakras (and beyond) are analogous to the higher dimensions. So the physical realm below, and the spiritual, higher dimensional world above meet in the heart, which is also the seat of time in our body. The heart counts down our sojourn in the earthly plane, and time takes us on to the moment of our ascension.

The heart and time are a meeting point between the lower and the higher dimensions, and the key to maximum functionality in the heart is Love. Feel Love, give Love, be Love."


As much as I enjoy different masters and gurus I believe that those who state you must have a guru or master (or Jesus) in order to be saved or to evolve spiritually are promoting disempowerment



I use the term "guru" to denote the learning experience, which resides within source, and is synonymous with "wonder" or "wonderous". The master and pupil participate as equals within wonder.

Love

[VaughnB]

“We are not human beings having a spiritual experience.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience.” [ Teihard de Chardin ]

[another bob]

Here is an excerpt from a talk given by Tenzin Palmo (Jetsunma since 2008), subject of Vicki Mackenzie’s book Cave in the Snow, which tells Ven. Palmo’s life story and of her twelve years in solitary retreat:

Westerner’s come to the Dharma with minds that are already chock-full, mostly with garbage, and when we try to plant our little seeds of the Dharma on top of that, they will have trouble surviving. It makes more sense to start by clearing it out. In other words, if you’ve got a house full of junk that’s never been cleaned, and you bring all your fancy thangkas and Buddha images with brocades and you try to hang them over all the junk, it’s only going to look like even more of a junk pile. The first thing we need is a house cleaning – we need to clean and scour. . .

One of the main practices in Buddhism is the six paramitas, the six perfections.

GENEROSITY: Giving is generosity – not just things, but your time, your attention, giving yourself. No matter how stupid we are, however deluded or angry, however we are caught up, we can still be generous. It’s not just giving things we don’t like anyway, but giving things we like, because we like them. Giving is very important.

ETHICS: Ethics are based on non-harming: not killing, not lying, not stealing, not taking intoxicants, which confuse the mind, and no sexual misconduct. Without this idea of not causing harm to ourselves and others we have no foundation for Dharma in our lives.

PATIENCE: When you’re in solitary retreat, who’s there to be patient with? People who cause us harm, who really push our buttons, they are our true Dharma friends. It’s true! When people push our buttons, then we see that we have buttons. Difficult situations, difficult persons, really are the sandpaper which makes us smooth. Then we can look into our minds. The problem isn’t out there. It’s in here.

Those Tibetan monks and nuns who spent so many years in Chinese prisons, although some of them were traumatized, many of them came out looking like they’d been in retreat and had heart-felt gratitude to their practice and their tormentors for keeping them on the Dharma path. Their patience was no longer theoretical.

EFFORT: All of this takes effort. When we first come across the Dharma we think, “Oh, it’s so obvious, why didn’t I think of that before?” It’s no great, secret wisdom, but we don’t do it. It’s one thing to think about it, to know it intellectually, and another thing to experience. To really have it as part of oneself, as natural as one’s breathing, requires perseverance. Perseverance and patience are the two most important components.

MEDITATION: It’s important to have time where one just can just go inward. I honestly recommend that apart from whatever practice you are doing, as part of your commitment, for those of you who have commitments, you also spend at least 20 minutes a day doing shamata, calm-abiding meditation, because it is very important to have an inner stillness. Within us we do have this center which is like a quiet pool. But usually we are unable to contact it. Meditation is a way of coming into contact with our inner center.

WISDOM: Wisdom is a mind that does not cling. Our mind clings continually, to people, to objects, to memories, to opinions, to our identity, to who we think we are. Somebody said to me that the vision he got in his mind was of being cover all over with tiny little barbs, or little hooks, and as we swirl around everything catches on the hooks, so we carry it all with us. The secret therefore is to withdraw all the hooks. We’re touching all these things, but they all slide off, nothing holds on to us. You see, the problem is not the objects. This is what the Buddha said over and over again. It’s not the things or the people that are the problem. It’s our attachment. It’s our attachment that causes fear.

Renunciation is not so much a matter of giving things up on the outside, although that can be very helpful. But the real renunciation is inner renunciation: to be naked in the moment. We clothe ourselves continually with our memories and idea of “I am female, I am male, I’m a teacher, I’m a doctor, I’m a bus driver, I’m a monk, I’m a lay person, I’m married, I’m not married, I’m a good person, I’m a bad person.”

IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER YOU’RE A GOOD PERSON OR A BAD PERSON. The whole question is – who is this I? It’s like a tree gradually losing its leaves – slowly, slowly. That’s what real meditation is all about. In the Buddha Dharma, again and again they talk about seeing things as they really are. And the Buddha talked about it so much because it’s almost impossible for us to see things clearly. We only see our own interpretation, our own version, our own projections.

In a way the whole of the Buddhist life is a matter of letting go, of these heavy burdens of memories, opinions, identities we carry around like heavy armor. But why carry armor around? We think it protects us but it keeps us away from other people who are also wearing armor. Can you imagine two knights in armor trying to embrace each other? This is what we’re doing all the time and then we wonder why our relationships don’t work. Then the Dharma becomes another form of armor. The Dharma should be a way of giving us the inner confidence to start shedding, to realize there is something else beyond this ego identity that is our true nature, and that it’s okay to drop all these other identifications.

In our practice we should have periods of time and even retreats when we give ourselves the space to really ask the question, who am I? One of the points of deity practice, of seeing yourself as the deity, is that it helps us to deal with the question of who we are. For instance, we’re sitting here thinking, “Now I am Chenrezig [the embodiment of the compassion of all the Buddhas, the Bodhisattva of Compassion]. I am white, glowing, I have four arms,” and so on and so forth. This is so important, but we don’t really believe this. It’s our fundamental delusion that we sit there thinking that really I am Mary Smith, pretending that I am Chenrezig – when of course the truth is that I am Chenrezig pretending to be Mary Smith.

I think in all our mediations, especially in visualizations, the important thing is to engage the heart, that it doesn’t just become mental excercise. So it’s very important if, for example, say on is doing prostrations, and one is visualizing the whole Refuge Tree with thousands and thousands of people and deitites and all these things. People go completely crazy trying to visualize all this and keep them all together. The really important thing is to get the conviction that even though you cannot see them, they are all there – absolute conviction that because of our ignorance, because of the veils of our impure perceptions, we cannot at this moment see all the Buddhas and bodhisattvas in front of us, but that they are there and they have always been there.

That’s the whole point of tantra – that we are making these false identifications the whole way through. That’s our delusion. And that’s why in tantra, if we’re doing it properly, not while we’re sitting for the short time doing our prayers, but all through the day we’re seeing all beings as Chenrezig. It’s not like we become megalomaniacal and say, “Oh, well, I’m Chenrezig and then there are all these poor little suckers.” All being are Chenrezig. We respect their innate Buddha nature. All sounds are Om mani padme hung. All thoughts – good thoughts, bad thoughts, stupid thoughts, wise thoughts – are they play of the dharmakaya, the wisdom of the Buddhas. If we can keep that going throughout our whole day, maybe something will happen. Do you understand? We have to do it. But we don’t do it rigidly, but with a mind that is very spacious and at the same time very focused and pure. And with a heart that is genuinely open. The transformation happens down in the heart, it doesn’t just happen in the head. It doesn’t matter how clever we are or how brilliant we are a giving Dharma talks, or how many books we’ve read or how much we’ve studied. That’s up here. What’s happening in our hearts? That’s all that counts in the end, when we die. What’s going to help us? How much we’ve got in our heads? That’s gone.

We have to take the Dharma and so totally merge it with our everyday lives that there’s no difference. We always say a prayer again and again, that my life and the Dharma may be equal, may be one. Everything we do, every action we take, every person we meet, every breath we take, if we are alert, if our minds are in that open spaciousness, that awareness, with that quality of knowing, then it would be perfect. The Buddha always talked about th Middle Way, between the extremes of making the strings of the instrument too tight so that they make a harsh sound, or making the strings too loose, so they don’t make any sound at all. We need to tune it just right, so that it makes a very sweet melody. Our life can be beautiful too, a beautiful melody, if we try.


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[Vit Sirius]

The biggest step of "enlightenment" is your own healing. It is my personal experience which I shared in the following videos few days ago:

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[Frogweaver]

Based on the teaching of Supreme Master Ching Hai; to be enlightened means that you gain the inner light and sound vibration; hence the term. Enlightened and Awakened mean the same thing; and knowing that all light is manifested consciousness, then you could understand it as such; when you learn to decode light patterns through your third eye and see all things as they are; consciousness. It is like reversing a process.. for most people feel that they are a product of this 'physical world'.. where as an enlightened person finally decodes what is before them, to be consciousness manifested as light, and they can truly connect with all things as they are not separate. Everyone is enlightened, but some lights are dimmer because of all the mess in the way. .