Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy | Uncensored & Uncut

[Helvetic]

Source: veritasshow.com (http://www.veritasshow.com)

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Synopsis
What was supposed to be a rather short update on the respective projects of Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan, turned out to be a full two hour interview.  It is a very personal interview that discusses the reasons and forces involved with the Project Camelot breakup.  We then discussed some of the witnesses and projections for the next few years.  To say this is probably the most candid and personal interview I have done with fellow truth seekers would be an understatement.  I emphasized that their synergistic relationship still does make a difference.  I wish Kerry and Bill much health and success and hope to meet again on a yearly basis to discuss their investigations.

Bio
Kerry Lynn Cassidy (Project Camelot Productions) has a BA in English with graduate work in Sociology, an MBA certificate from the UCLA Anderson Graduate School of Management, and was competitively selected to attend a year of film school at the UCLA Extension Short Fiction Film Program as one of their first "hyphenates": a writer-director-producer. After 19 years in Hollywood working for major studios and independent production companies in production, development and new media, she has written a number of screenplays, acquired the movie rights to the Wingmakers story in 2003, and started work on her own UFO documentary in 2005.
 
Bill Ryan (Project Avalon) has a BS in Mathematics with Physics and Psychology. For the last 27 years he has been a management consultant, specializing in personal and team development, leadership training and executive coaching. In November 2005 he inaugurated the Project Serpo website, the report of an alleged disclosure, in stages, of a US-alien exchange program claimed to have taken place over 40 years ago. While he had been interested in UFOs, Free Energy research, and alternative medicine for over thirty years, his first contact with the UFO community at large occurred after establishing the Serpo website.

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[ROMANWKT]

There seems to be a problem trying to get the whole interveiw, I can only see part 1 of video, and only 1 hour from Veritas. I dont want to pay them per month, rather give it to Bill. Any body got more info.HELP

[Helvetic]

I think the full interview will be available soon on video.

[grannyfranny100]

Helvetic,

It is also my understanding that Bill and Kerry will have a copy to post. Certainly better to wait and see their copy than to pirate the copyrighted version from the Veritas show.

Granny Franny

[RAKMEiSTER]

cheers. good talk. allinall. beside 1 leftoutsubject ;D

[Helvetic]

well the link for 1hour mp3* fails here: even.
...


The link works perfectly. So the problem is on your side.

Ok RAKMEiSTER, here is the link again Listen to Latest Show (http://www.veritasshow.com/radio/latest.htm)

[shiva777]

I am a member of Veritas..I found it very funny how they explained how people were trying to split them up when it seemed pretty clear that they were going off on seperate tangents ANYWAY as their understandings of things became pretty incompatible and their understandings and spiritual growth and focus changed a LOT of things in their dynamic together ANYWAY

after listening to the whole 2 hr show I think it's pretty obvious that Kerry and Bill can no longer work together in the way that they USED to,as their views on things and personalities have changed to much to be an effective and harmonious team..Kerry very much resonates to Ashayana Deanes material and Bill resonates more to "charles" type material..talk about "chalk and cheese"..lol..listen to hour 2 and you will see why,the tension is palpable,..the Charles issue was a perfect opportunity to see clearly how VERY diifferently Bill and Kerry have developed..I do encourage them to do bits and pieces together though as the love between them is also still there

[paul1972]

Dear Avalions,

Is part 2 available somewhere besides Veritas?

Best Regards,

Paul1972

[slipknotted]

oil is bill vinager kerry never get's old, great combo !

[Lita]

Great we can watch the 1st hour teaser video then we have to listen with no images.. wait until it comes out on video... and pay for it..lol...

[VERITAS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYGtrIX4fL0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI14dxC_ImY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xUYLqP1EXw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELSaGbtA-48

[giovonni]

Blessings Mel :clap2:

[Hummingbird]

Good man Mel or whoever posted for him.. thanks again : )

[Icecold]

The body language sub text is amazing and tell its own story which is at odds with the verbal story.

Where does truth lie?

The Twilight Zone. :)

Thanks.

[shybastid]

Just watched one of the segments. Yep...That's Bill and Kerry alright. Very nice candid interview. I was worried whether Bill got a sandwich and coffee though,so I lost track of the conversation.

I have a short attention span.

I knew there was a more sinister side to Scientology..but ...I hope the "kill the dog" story was just a metaphor.

So far, so good on the interview... Thank you.

[Snowbird]

I watched the whole interview over on Veritas yesterday. Bill and Kerry DO have very different views, but in their professional maturity they have learned the secret to every good relationship. Forbearance and tolerance. They each speak their minds' truth and challenge each other when necessary. If they agreed on everything, they would be missing out on half of the equation.

Yes, they are like oil and vinegar, but if you sit and really watch them, they each flow back and forth in those roles according to their convictions and beliefs.

I also watched another Veritas interview with Dr. Carol Rosin (pronounced rah-zin). She is one of the most interesting and involved women I have ever come across. The second hour of that interview is potent.

Great job Mel!

[VERITAS]

HERE'S PART TWO OF THE INTERVIEW:

As most of you may know, The Veritas Show does not depend on commercial sponsorships. We rely on voluntary subscriptions only.

Although we offer the second segment of our interviews to our members only, I am making an exception as a courtesy to Bill and Kerry. Below is the second segment of our interview. I will also offer it at Kerry's forum.

I wish I had a director's channel on YouTube but I do not. Here's segment two of our interview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjphaBPo45w


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZseE8USBej4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzUM0nJkFas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaKG36kH-tI


Very best wishes,

Mel

[Calz]

HERE'S PART TWO OF THE INTERVIEW:

...

As most of you may know, The Veritas Show does not depend on commercial sponsorships. We rely on voluntary subscriptions only.

Although we offer the second segment of our interviews to our members only, I am making an exception as a courtesy to Kerry and Bill. Below is the second segment of our interview. I will also offer it at Bill's Avalon forum.

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Very best wishes,

Mel

I am proud to be a member of Veritas and quite grateful for all you have brought forward.

Thank you for bringing Camelot home to Camelot ... I am sure there are many here who are appreciative.

Cal

[Liquid]

HERE'S PART TWO OF THE INTERVIEW:

As most of you may know, The Veritas Show does not depend on commercial sponsorships. We rely on voluntary subscriptions only.

Although we offer the second segment of our interviews to our members only, I am making an exception as a courtesy to Bill and Kerry. Below is the second segment of our interview. I will also offer it at Kerry's forum.

I wish I had a director's channel on YouTube but I do not. Here's segment two of our interview:


Very best wishes,

Mel

That's very nice of you Mel, thank you very much!

[slipknotted]

thanks mel very much, hard times have hit my income so thanks for posting part 2, when i'm able i will subscribe !........chris

[araucaria]

thanks for sharing that Mel, I enjoy your style (although we hardly heard you for an hour!).
You've just earned yourself a new subscriber.

[Blue]

Hi, I think that those are 2 very cool people!!

[granny]

Mel ... thank you so much for posting the interview. Thanks also to your subscribers. Am seriously thinking I may join them very soon.
Granny

[loc333]

That ending was funny,but I'm sure you guys would like to say more without the phone ringing. I think your both great people thanks.

[Bill Ryan]

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For Avalonians only (not searchable on the net):

Here's a delicious outtake from the start - not included in Mel's version. I was editing it for release as a Camelot interview... and this was irresistible. I confess that for quite a long time I could not stop laughing.

Just 1 min 17 seconds. Enjoy. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKRf3icxSc

[Icecold]

LOL. Yes that was funny.

[Caren]

Hi Bill,
Thanks for including the outtake - very funny! I loved it. :)

[sumkat]

hi,all,bill,..bill,you seem to be blinking out some sort of morse code at the beginning,i know the feeling....

[DeDukshyn]

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For Avalonians only (not searchable on the net):

Here's a delicious outtake from the start - not included in Mel's version.....


It wasn't the words themselves as much as the way they were said ;)

[VERITAS]

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For Avalonians only (not searchable on the net):

Here's a delicious outtake from the start - not included in Mel's version. I was editing it for release as a Camelot interview... and this was irresistible. I confess that for quite a long time I could not stop laughing.

Just 1 min 17 seconds. Enjoy. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKRf3icxSc
LOL!!! I remember that. Good one Bill. Glad you kept it for the record.

Cheers,

Mel

[Hervé]

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Here's a delicious outtake from the start - not included in Mel's version ... Enjoy. :)

Cute.

6478

Thank you Bill!

[HaveBlue]

?! No, sorry i can't see what's so funny. is Kerry given friendly ribbing about putting on the beef as she gets towards the wrong side of 50 or something?

Must be an inside joke.

[king anthony]

Here's a delicious outtake from the start - not included in Mel's version.

That definitely got a chuckle out of me. Thank you for that. (still smiling)

[sunflower]

your facial expressions - made my day LOL

[Tuza]

I have always loved the music and the jaguar at the beginning of the videos from way back when I first viewed them in 2008. Kerry still looks good physically imho, still attractive, not overweight imho. Bill is not large aneither. A bit of ribbing that's all.

[Roseheart]

I loved the out take and the interview. Thank you so much Mel and Bill.
Re the interview - I notice that Kerry is always looking off camera to her right ( is that camera left?) to someone... Probably none of my business but who is that? Kerry is in constant communication with them when Bill or Mel talks... I was fascinated watching her reactions...

[Tangri]

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For Avalonians only (not searchable on the net):

Here's a delicious outtake from the start - not included in Mel's version. I was editing it for release as a Camelot interview... and this was irresistible. I confess that for quite a long time I could not stop laughing.

Just 1 min 17 seconds. Enjoy. :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKRf3icxSc

It is true , you are bigger then her., I concur.

[Hybrid5226]

Ok
Morse Code
Video 7 of 8 while Kerry is talking.
Bill is doing dits an dahs in morse code with his eye blinking .

...---... :p

Thank you for sharing .

The Cyberdine info shook me a bit .

Peace

[Isthatso]

Thanks so much Mel - great interview!

Noticed the phone interuption at the end when Bill was trying to say his closing piece. I was reminded how he was also recently disconnected from the lifestream interview of Bill Deagle....minor interference!

Interesting times.

Keep up the good work Bill and Kerry. Thanks for taking the time to do this interview.

Warm wishes to all..

[Omni]

I'm only a bit past halfway through but I couldn't help but feel an enormous amount of respect and honor for all those on the path of 'putting together the big picture'. This is a very hard task that many barely embark on at all. I feel a large amount of an unexplainable emotion in wishing everyone the best in terms of figuring out the truth to things.. I haven't been able to check out many interviews on Camelot and Avalon but my ET contacts asked me to review them all and make a section on my websites for Avalon and Camelot interviews a few days ago.... If anyone wants to recommend some to me I will put it on the list. This should be time consuming but worth it IMO. If anyone wants to point me in the right direction for a list, I'd be thankful.

[Realeyes]

Thank you Mel for this amazing interview! ;)

Thank you Bill and Kerry for being amazing, courageous souls! :whoo:

Together your wonderful work of joining the dots has touched so many. :cool: :hug: :grouphug:

[Aviator]

Great video with packed information as we can always expect from an interwiev with Bill and Kerry. Good to see you together again. Thanks a lot for posting it here Mel.

[holcaul]

SO FUNNY!! Loved it when Kerry whispered in the end, "Yes you are".

Thank you Bill, still walking around with a smile on my face.

PS
Each of you individually is still doing an amazing awakening job, but when you're together this is when you produce the momentous stuff that has this unique unforgettable glow to them.

[Elixer]

I did not think it was very funny. I thought it was more indicative of the atmosphere throughout the interview which to me seemed somewhat competitive and frustrated, especially at the very end.

Both Bill and Kerry had good things to say, but the combination no longer seems to work. Or there are still things left to be worked out between the two.
I also think though, that it might be good if both of them do have someone to team up with in order to balance things out or keep things in check, as they both have so much to say and seem to like to talk a lot.

Of course, these are my personal impression and I might be projecting.
Considering most the responses here, I might in fact be completely off base.
I meant no offense and respect them both.

[felixq78]

There seems to be a problem trying to get the whole interveiw, I can only see part 1 of video, and only 1 hour from Veritas. I dont want to pay them per month, rather give it to Bill. Any body got more info.HELP

Parts 1 to 4 are available on YouTube but 5-8 are available to Veritas members only.
It seems that once again the poor are discriminated against.
I understand that groups like Veritas cost money to run but I still feel left out, once again. My ISP fees keep me hungry, it's hard when access to important websites are beyond my reach because I'm broke. I guess 5 to 8 will eventually end up on YouTube.
Whine whine, winge.:panda::blabla:

[Flyswim]

@felixq78 - Look at post #17 from Veritas. He's uploaded the second part of the interview for free.

Whinge over?

;-)

[sygh]

hi,all,bill,..bill,you seem to be blinking out some sort of morse code at the beginning,i know the feeling....

Yup, thought the same thing. Almost started trying to write it down. I saw it in the second half. LOL.

[VERITAS]

Nevermind. I was going to respond to Felix, but you have set him straight already...

Mel

[Teakai]

Very best wishes,

Mel

Thanks so much, Mel. Very much appreciated.
:)

[Star Wonder]

Awesome interview Mel, Kerry, and Bill!

[Newlyn]

is it only me, sometimes I really don't have a clue what Kerry is talking about.

[Arrowwind]

I did not think it was very funny. I thought it was more indicative of the atmosphere throughout the interview which to me seemed somewhat competitive and frustrated, especially at the very end.

Both Bill and Kerry had good things to say, but the combination no longer seems to work. Or there are still things left to be worked out between the two.
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All I see is that they are really working at being courteous to each other when speaking together...

My husband and I have this issue... and it is improving over time, and we take the time to discuss the sometimes social blunders we create when we are together, as we are both determined people with something to say. Learning to give space to another to speak in a conversation is what it is about. They both each have a lot to say and when issues are intense impatience can get in the way, especially when in front of a camera when time constrate resides in the backround. It doesn't have anything to do with ones regard for each other but in learning timing, measure and pacing between them....setting a rthym... the design and choreography of energy of the interview, between them. The interviewer, possibly could be of more assistance, but this requires the interviewer to have a perception of the issue as well as a plan for moderating it.

It takes them developing sensitivity to a new aspect between them.. I saw them stumbling, holding back, inviting one another to speak, interrupting then backing off. I have seen this issue in less formal conversations that they have had with guests they were interviewing.

If they did more interviews together like this they would work it out. Remember, they are use to being behind the camera, not infront as a team. It takes some practice. I think that Kerry may have an underlaying issue of feeling that she is never heard or permitted to speak... which of course is not true.. but it can tone her body language, and the way she comes across. She can let go of that.. it was the same issue for me at one time and I healed it. It came from my father repeatedly telling me to shut up when I was a child, so every resistance or impediance in a conversation brought about by another would result in me hardening inside..getting subtley pissed off... I think that if she watches the video she may see what I am saying... but of course I could be totally off the mark and just projecting. Just an idea.

Communication is a spendid art and can reveal much about our subterranian selves... it can show us where we need growth.... and you just got to wonder why these two are doing what they are doing, and doing it together. Being together, it's ultimate purpose, is always growth, within all our aspects, including the not always so noted or valued skill of communication.

Also, remember Kerry is right at the age of the predominace of the opening of the throat chakra for women. It is the time of coming into full power in communication and taking on her full power... Generally it is is a ten year or so time segment in a womans life... ages 40 to 50.

this is what I see anyway.

It is good to see them together and the perspective that each provides is of interest to me. How many times has Kerry brought forth the question that was begging to be answered inside me? many times..

And I can see a great love in Bill for Kerry.
We all should respect that here. It has not been so in the past.

[Arrowwind]

is it only me, sometimes I really don't have a clue what Kerry is talking about.

I have never had that issue. I think Kerry is talking with a backround of comprehensive knowledge on many topics. If you are not familiar
then you can get lost. She is not "dumbing down" to play catch up... and I do not mean this in an insulting way to you. Its kind of like the difference in taking, say for instance, a level one sociology class compared to a level four. You would not expect a level four class professor to talk like you still need to understand level one.

Sometimes I think that the conversations that on on before and behind the interview, and shared knowledge preceding the interview is alluded to in the interview...with insinuations to other ramifications and implied understandings... they both could watch out for this a little more.

It this regard it would be helpful to look at their work as a total body of work... with concepts and storytelling building over time.

[lunaflare]

good post wind of arrow

[Newlyn]

is it only me, sometimes I really don't have a clue what Kerry is talking about.

I have never had that issue. I think Kerry is talking with a backround of comprehensive knowledge on many topics. If you are not familiar
then you can get lost. She is not "dumbing down" to play catch up... and I do not mean this in an insulting way to you. Its kind of like the difference in taking, say for instance, a level one sociology class compared to a level four. You would not expect a level four class professor to talk like you still need to understand level one.

Sometimes I think that the conversations that on on before and behind the interview, and shared knowledge preceding the interview is alluded to in the interview...with insinuations to other ramifications and implied understandings... they both could watch out for this a little more.

It this regard it would be helpful to look at their work as a total body of work... with concepts and storytelling building over time.

Yes of course. And I don't claim to fully understand everything that Kerry and Bill have researched, naturally. But I don't think that's the problem here. I understand Bill very well, because he talks in a different, more swiftly (?). I can see most of the points of Kerry if I listen to it many times. But she has a way to tangle herself in her explanations.

I have great respect for them both though.

[jorr lundstrom]

Thank you Mel and Bill and Kerry.:thumb:

[Njord]

Finished watching the interview for the 3rd time now :ranger: Hehe.
Another good interview, and nice to know more about their relationship.
Though I felt it could have been a little more probing/deeper. My personal opinion of course, as there were some questions I felt should have been asked.
Even if it is none of our business hehe.

Props to all 3 parties for doing this one "uncut".

It is simply incredible the sher amount of information, that both Bill and Kerry have obtained over such a short time.
But like it was posted before me, I do sense a form of "jealousy" from Kerry when it comes to Bill. Something unresolved perhaps.
I do feel it is more than they let everyone know.

Still, it is nice to see them together again.

[Lily de Cuir]

Hello everyone,

I really enjoyed part one, part 2 is here in video, but does anyone know where a mp3 link is? I've searched everywhere...

Thanks in advance

Kind regards,
Lily