Can a Four Star General (General Wesley Clark) Talk Like a Truther?

[daledo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7hMj2NKTc

[Ahkenaten]

OK this is believable but still does not explain the reason why attack dates were deliberately calibrated to coincide with certain occult/astronomically significant dates. I do not believe the presence of oil is the only reason why there have been epic struggles in this region for thousands of years. It simply does not explain all of what is going on. That is one layer to the cake.............there are many other layers.

[K626]

OK this is believable but still does not explain the reason why attack dates were deliberately calibrated to coincide with certain occult/astronomically significant dates. I do not believe the presence of oil is the only reason why there have been epic struggles in this region for thousands of years. It simply does not explain all of what is going on. That is one layer to the cake.............there are many other layers.

With Iraq it was also artifact related.

K

[daledo]

OK this is believable but still does not explain the reason why attack dates were deliberately calibrated to coincide with certain occult/astronomically significant dates. I do not believe the presence of oil is the only reason why there have been epic struggles in this region for thousands of years. It simply does not explain all of what is going on. That is one layer to the cake.............there are many other layers.

Very true about the layers... they might have 50 agendas to play out. The oil and also arms sales are the money maker part of the equation. TPTB need this cash flow to keep other agendas going full speed ahead.

[Ahkenaten]

K626 I agree 100% with you on that! Which gets back again to ancient history and the battle between relatives for technology, resources and key pieces of landscape. The part that isn't at all clear is why humans are so integral to their epic struggles........even if some of us are blood-relatives of the "gods" and our semi-divine ancestors, why are we so important? Why have we been dragged into their family battles? Dogs and cats have been around a long time and as far as I know THEY aren't being asked to chose up sides between feuding relatives. Nor, as far as I know, are the psychic energies, bodies and lives of animals being expropriated as ours are, of course it is only recently in our history that the practice of ANIMAL SACRIFICE (similar to human sacrifices) for the most part, discontinued except in symbolic, sublimated form (communion).............

The "gods" must need us for some reason. They may feed on our energy. They may need it to fuel their activities here and elsewhere. The whole subject of sacrifice may be a key to understanding what exactly it is that the "gods" need from us.

Now I am getting really woo-woo! I'll stop.

[Peacelovinman]

Pity these guys didn't have the guts to do something constructive at the time. Alright to be a patriot when your living is safe.

[Ahkenaten]

Retirement plans are always an issue. They certainly seem freer to discuss certain delicate issues once they have retired.

[daledo]

OK this is believable but still does not explain the reason why attack dates were deliberately calibrated to coincide with certain occult/astronomically significant dates. I do not believe the presence of oil is the only reason why there have been epic struggles in this region for thousands of years. It simply does not explain all of what is going on. That is one layer to the cake.............there are many other layers.

With Iraq it was also artifact related.

K

Hidden knowledge with these artifacts... accumulation of knowledge is power over the people.

[Flash]

This video of the general dating from 2006 is still more striking, how come the alternative community had not heard of him yet (i least I did not - but I might be wrong, I am not involved much in the alternative community)
Definitively worth listening


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVVml5Dp2s&feature=related

[Ahkenaten]

As the Supreme Commander of Allied NATO forces during the war in the Balkans under the Clinton Administration Clark certainly was known around the world within mainstream media as well as "alternative" outlets.

[K626]

K626 I agree 100% with you on that! Which gets back again to ancient history and the battle between relatives for technology, resources and key pieces of landscape. The part that isn't at all clear is why humans are so integral to their epic struggles........even if some of us are blood-relatives of the "gods" and our semi-divine ancestors, why are we so important? Why have we been dragged into their family battles? Dogs and cats have been around a long time and as far as I know THEY aren't being asked to chose up sides between feuding relatives. Nor, as far as I know, are the psychic energies, bodies and lives of animals being expropriated as ours are, of course it is only recently in our history that the practice of ANIMAL SACRIFICE (similar to human sacrifices) for the most part, discontinued except in symbolic, sublimated form (communion).............

The "gods" must need us for some reason. They may feed on our energy. They may need it to fuel their activities here and elsewhere. The whole subject of sacrifice may be a key to understanding what exactly it is that the "gods" need from us.

Now I am getting really woo-woo! I'll stop.

I like to keep it simple.

If the audience don't believe it, the magic hasn't worked.

K

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OK this is believable but still does not explain the reason why attack dates were deliberately calibrated to coincide with certain occult/astronomically significant dates. I do not believe the presence of oil is the only reason why there have been epic struggles in this region for thousands of years. It simply does not explain all of what is going on. That is one layer to the cake.............there are many other layers.

With Iraq it was also artifact related.

K

Hidden knowledge with these artifacts... accumulation of knowledge is power over the people.

Also, the connection must be broken.

The shock came when they saw how we thrived on the earth and how the earth came to love us and remade us.

K

[Ahkenaten]

I think that the magic is showing serious signs of stopping working ............ and that is probably a good thing!:rolleyes:

Remember that the "gods" were concerned about our abilities, lest we become as one of them........as they put it.

Fact is, we ARE godlike..............and sad thing is how many people do not realize that.

But the spells appear not to be working too well anymore!

p.s.humor is one key..................these entities are VERY serious (as are AI) ------- laughing at them is one way to break the connection.

[K626]

...and how before there was a wind a vast wind and the trees shook and we heard the wind and realised it was a kind of music and that we had heard it before. And those from Mars could only hear the whistling of the wind but we heard the music therein and Selene came closer and she too listened and then before the great tree man was one and the earth was one. Great efforts were made to subjugate us with new weapons and horse was sent with a kind of radiation (time) and this too fell before man cause the spirit of man was timeless...

chronicles of K

[Ahkenaten]

there is something very unique about human beings and life here on earth.............very unique and very precious indeed, very beloved.

[K626]

there is something very unique about human beings and life here on earth.............very unique and very precious indeed, very beloved.

Indeed.

K

Moment to moment we are co-creating the wonderment and lest we forget...It is now in our hands.

[K626]

.....and there is so much great news to share, that we become our ideas, we grow out of our pains and we repeat our failures...cause we can't quite yet believe the synchronicity of it all. That we could flip it and the universe would be created the end of time...For we know it is only a moment, that everythingn redacted is still only that one moment and that those who cried out were answered and nobody who asks will be left behind and that it is so and it is written so and the word was there and it was there before the beginning and it was of light.

K

[VajraYaya]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7hMj2NKTc

Has anybody been able to find this complete interview with Amy Goodman? I couldn't find it on Democracy Now.

[Lord Sidious]

Pity these guys didn't have the guts to do something constructive at the time. Alright to be a patriot when your living is safe.

It isn't that straightforward.
When you sign on, they own you, they even tell you that.
If you rock the boat too much while you serve, you will pay, trust me, I know.
I was drowned in a river.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7hMj2NKTc

Has anybody been able to find this complete interview with Amy Goodman? I couldn't find it on Democracy Now.

Google Amy Goodman with Wesley Clark, the whole deal is on google video.
I would post it, but it was unavailable when I just looked.

What the general says is true, the invasion of Afghanistan was planned and the first parts started moving in the first half of 2001.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

how come the alternative community had not heard of him yet

I've always considered General Clark one of the good guys. I supported his presidential candidacy in 2004 and would do so again if he ran again. General Clark was supreme allied commander of NATO from 97 to 2000. He always reminded me of how my grandfather described General Bradley. He has often been spotted associating with folks like Edgar Mitchell. He is currently head of a biofuel lobby group.

[Lord Sidious]

how come the alternative community had not heard of him yet

I've always considered General Clark one of the good guys. I supported his presidential candidacy in 2004 and would do so again if he ran again. General Clark was supreme allied commander of NATO from 97 to 2000. He always reminded me of how my grandfather described General Bradley. He has often been spotted associating with folks like Edgar Mitchell. He is currently head of a biofuel lobby group.

I would never support a general grade officer for civilian leadership.
They have too much conditioning and arse kissing experience.
And remember, the main use a soldier has is to kill the enemy.
They have limited uses in peacetime.

[ViralSpiral]

I would post it, but it was unavailable when I just looked.


Ditto, feels a bit "Chinese-ish" to me, this censorship thing.... ;)

I liked the vieo though so went fishing, and found the transcript.

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presidential_bid


Lord Sirdious, you could confirm its authenticity

[Lord Sidious]

I would post it, but it was unavailable when I just looked.


Ditto, feels a bit "Chinese-ish" to me, this censorship thing.... ;)

I liked the vieo though so went fishing, and found the transcript.

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presidential_bid


Lord Sirdious, you could confirm its authenticity

I don't know yet, the video is unavailable.
We should check back in the next few days and see if it is then viewable.

[VajraYaya]

Pity these guys didn't have the guts to do something constructive at the time. Alright to be a patriot when your living is safe.

It isn't that straightforward.
When you sign on, they own you, they even tell you that.
If you rock the boat too much while you serve, you will pay, trust me, I know.
I was drowned in a river.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7hMj2NKTc

Has anybody been able to find this complete interview with Amy Goodman? I couldn't find it on Democracy Now.

Google Amy Goodman with Wesley Clark, the whole deal is on google video.
I would post it, but it was unavailable when I just looked.

What the general says is true, the invasion of Afghanistan was planned and the first parts started moving in the first half of 2001.


Thanks Sideous - Tried that too and got the same result as you did. Google video seems to be largely dead for so many things these days. So the question stands for anyone..

[ktlight]

In an interview with Amy Goodman on March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Iran


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx1nPu3k

[norman]

I always thought they were stalled in Iraq and that they'd intended to sweep through a bunch on countries on the back of that 9/11 ticket.

Iraq was probably only slated in for a 3 to 6 month push-over.


EDIT:

I think they might have stalled again in Libya.

[fathertedsmate]

where are the body language experts when these people are being interviewed

[daledo]

Hey ktlight... maybe we can merge these
Look at this other thread I started awhile back.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17145-Can-a-Four-Star-General-%28General-Wesley-Clark%29-Talk-Like-a-Truther

[ktlight]

Hey ktlight... maybe we can merge these
Look at this other thread I started awhile back.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17145-Can-a-Four-Star-General-%28General-Wesley-Clark%29-Talk-Like-a-Truther

If it makes sense to merge, I have no objections.

[Flash]

You will find the full interview, mp3 or video, here, very interesting

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presidential_bid

[Mandala]

I had never seen this clip before now. I'm sure quite a few of you have. I found it interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKo2kRQ2tOI

[Lord Sidious]

I have seen it before, but finding anything more than a short clip is the hard part.

[58andfixed]

Another version here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33097-Gaddafi-s-death-OFFICIAL-update&p=338447&viewfull=1#post338447).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMAONc7GeIc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMAONc7GeIc

8m 14s 46,507 views

Posted September 2, 2011 of a lecture from October 3, 2007.

- 58

[Operator]

I have seen it before, but finding anything more than a short clip is the hard part.

Here's another similar (but a little longer) clip:

Libya Destroyed: Syria Next In The Crosshairs 2011

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It is said to come from fora.tv and found it: http://fora.tv/v/c1680