true and false advise

[manny]

many of us are on a journey.
we will seek advice for learning to better ourselfs.
to make understanding of our journey.
to find enlightenment and awakening.

my question is who is giving the correct and true advice and help.

and who is preying on the weak and less informed.

where to turn too?

we are all searching.

have you been misdirected.

you can receive a e mail,explaining all the rights and wrongs and being sympathetic to your life.

and it may all make sense to you.

but doe,s not the cunning conman know his prey .

who do you trust

[58andfixed]

but does not the cunning conman know his prey .

who do you trust

Thanks Manny:

I trust good thinking, verify information from independent alternative sources & my growing discernment skills, however I don't stop there.

I also check in to see that my biases are not setting me up to allowing myself to be duped --- yet again.

Here's a good list to use online:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases


Belief bias
– "an effect where someone's evaluation of the logical strength of an argument is biased by the believability of the conclusion"


"There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact ... "

-- Arthur Conan Doyle (1891)

- 58

[Dionysus]

I'm still searching myself. I have far more questions than answers at this point. But, I'm comfortable with that. I tend to distrust those who claim to have all the answers.

Experience is the best teacher. Make mistakes. Really. Learn from them.

If you have children, it quickly becomes apparent how much you don't know. We learn as much from them as they do from us. Perhaps more.

As for the subject of advice, here are some things I have learned:

- Unsolicited advice is usually - although not always - close to worthless.
- Question authority.
- If you want to hear a certain answer, and are resistant to another, examine why you need it to be a certain way. In other words, when asking for advice, be sure you are not just looking for validation.
- Occasionally I have found certain sources of advice to be fairly consistent in suggesting the wrong course of action. I have then sought such 'advice' in order to safely eliminate a potential course of action.
- Listen for that 'inner voice' that suggests what to do or where to go next. This is not to be confused with the ego, or needs, or guilt, etc. The best advice ultimately comes from within. If this was easy, we would all lead charmed lives, so don't be disappointed when ego, needs, guilt, etc. trip you up. It happens to me all the time. Discernment in this requires experience, so again, don't be afraid to make mistakes.

I can assure you, I am still making mistakes in my life. I think I'm getting a little better at it though.

[ViralSpiral]

Thank you Manny
I understand your intention, and at best will answer (from my corner - which may look diffferent to yours), with the following:




many of us are on a journey. - all are, or not?

my question is who is giving the correct and true advice and help. everyone and no-one

and who is preying on the weak and less informed. The ones that holds the stick

where to turn too? you cannot stop your journey fearing that some-one is out to get you, cos they are ;)

have you been misdirected. yes, by the same "everyone and no-one"

but doe,s not the cunning conman know his prey . absolutely!

who do you trust -Could say, no-one but that would include me. I do like the "cognitive biases" sentiment. I believe that we are constantly set up for failure & growth. The excercise is discernment and vigilance.....

[majapahit]

the world isn't a nice place
you grow by surviving
you are thrown onto yourself
every boy 'in the hood' knows
suburbia the tinsel town because of mommy's love only

trust no one but your own final judgement
.. and then do not trust that either

.. such is the game of life

[Jayke]

I like to use the compass of love, empowerment and beauty to navigate my way through life...anything that opens you up to a greater experience of those things I consider valuable and worth a closer look, anything that takes love, empowerment or beauty away from you I tend to steer clear of. Discernment is still needed though as to whether your investment is going to be worth the rewards, it's ok to tread carefully and make a few mistakes along the way, the more mistakes you make the greater your ability is to discern what it is you really want to experience in your life. As long as you learn from every experience then it's all good IMO.

[58andfixed]

Experience is the best teacher. Make mistakes. Really. Learn from them.

If you have children, it quickly becomes apparent how much you don't know. We learn as much from them as they do from us. Perhaps more.

Discernment in this requires experience, so again, don't be afraid to make mistakes.

I can assure you, I am still making mistakes in my life. I think I'm getting a little better at it though.


Thanks Dionysus:

Another well made point.

Make a choice or decision. Allow yourself to experience the consequences.

Be OK with making mistakes - this is the mortal condition.

The more we can accept our own frailties, the easier it will be to live acceptance of others, and move beyond mere tolerance of their ignorant choices for we are all in a process of discovering the deceptions and our part in them.

We will all get better at it, eventually. The trick is to embrace our frailties, and to avoid thinking we don't have any - just others, and that somehow this makes them 'stupid.'

- 58

[Dionysus]

The trick is to embrace our frailties, and to avoid thinking we don't have any - just others, and that somehow this makes them 'stupid.'

Yup, I have to remind myself of that at least once a day!