New blog post from David Wilcock (26/mar/11)

[DarkSai]

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/925-japanowo

since it's been quiet there, i thought i'd post this for those not checking so regularly anymore. Discern and Enjoy :)

some quick updates from the article:

- David has been begged to put a post up on Japan, but has been focusing, almost entirely, on completing his book with as few flaws as possibles

- According to David, this book, Source Field Investigations, is his most significant single piece of work to date and a culmination to all that has preceeded it. It is now complete and ready for preorder, available August.

- Divinecosmos.com has suffered 3 major DoS/hack attacks. each these occurred during one of his conferences.

Peace and Love Eternal.
DarkSai

[Jayke]

Loved the information about atlantis in this latest blog post, just pre-ordered 2 copies of his book, one for me and one for my 15 year old cousin who is already taking a very deep interest in the mayan prophecy of 2012...I really feel this book could be one of those game changers that creates a paradigm shift in our society, will have to see how well it permeates the public consciousness upon it's release...:)

[mountain_jim]

Thanks for letting me know this new post was up. I will be pre-ordering his book. David's previous books, available free online, plus the complete RA /Law Of One sessions, also free online, have had a huge effect on my thinking and knowing these last few years.

[Mandala]

I pre-ordered my book. Thank you for posting the up-date.

[trenairio]

I'm itchin to know Charles' opinion of the "secret history" Wilcock has mentioned in this blog, and the "history" that is going to be released with the Source Fields Investigations book.

[Etherios]

I'm itchin to know Charles' opinion of the "secret history" Wilcock has mentioned in this blog, and the "history" that is going to be released with the Source Fields Investigations book.

Erm i think we should stop waiting for anything from Charles ... well if he wants to return he knows where we are :-P

[Realeyes]

I have just finished reading David's article; as always he has done his magic to join lots of dots together. I certainly learnt a few new things and also felt 'hope' in all this 'mess' humanity finds ourselves in. IMHO it was well worth the read. I will be contemplating and pondering much tonight. ;)

[Arrowwind]

where do you pre-order the book?

[Heise]

regurgitated disclosure stuff again.

[Jayke]

Arrowwind, I pre-ordered mine on amazon.


regurgitated disclosure stuff again.

Huh?

I've always found David's perspective on things to be pretty fresh...
Care to explain?

[modwiz]

OK. I am not too proud to ask for help when perhaps somebody can explain something that my intellect cannot wrap around.

David said this:" This Ice Age, where the land was suddenly overrun by glaciers in a very short period of time and sea level rose by as much as 300 feet, appears to have been the result of a pole shift -- where tropical areas suddenly became polar regions.

Atlantis, originally an "island continent" surrounded by water, became Antarctica -- and all the water that washed over it was quick-frozen into ice.

Some of the insiders I have spoken with have told me that most of the remains of Atlantis were crushed under this massive weight of ice -- but there are certain pockets where you can still find some very neat stuff."

He then posts this information from the Timaeus of Plato:Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour.

For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end.

This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles.

The island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean...

Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent.

Furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia.

OK. So Libya at that time included what is now Morocco and went as far West as the Atlantic Ocean.

Atlantis sits just West of the Pillars of Hercules, (Rock of Gibraltar area where Spain and Morocco form a narrow strait from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic. So, if Atlantis is now Antactica owing to the angle of the Earth moving from pole shift, how come Greece, Spain and "Libya" are still in a temperate climate.

Wouldn't they are have to move together given the scenario and reasons for Atlantis winding up on the bottom of the Earth?

I believe the Plato part and the geography there. The Atlantic/Antarctica idea and reasoning are meeting fierce resistance from the guardians of reason in the left hemisphere of my brain.

Did anyone else pick up on this?

I did enjoy the blog post and effort by David though.

[Jayke]

I believe the Plato part and the geography there. The Atlantic/Antarctica idea and reasoning are meeting fierce resistance from the guardians of reason in the left hemisphere of my brain.

Did anyone else pick up on this?

It did pique my curiosity but my reasonable guardians are remaining open about that part until some further information comes along...:)

[modwiz]

I believe the Plato part and the geography there. The Atlantic/Antarctica idea and reasoning are meeting fierce resistance from the guardians of reason in the left hemisphere of my brain.

Did anyone else pick up on this?

It did pique my curiosity but my reasonable guardians are remaining open about that part until some further information comes along...:)

Very astute of your guardians.;)

[Tuza]

OK. I am not too proud to ask for help when perhaps somebody can explain something that my intellect cannot wrap around.

David said this:" This Ice Age, where the land was suddenly overrun by glaciers in a very short period of time and sea level rose by as much as 300 feet, appears to have been the result of a pole shift -- where tropical areas suddenly became polar regions.

Atlantis, originally an "island continent" surrounded by water, became Antarctica -- and all the water that washed over it was quick-frozen into ice.

Some of the insiders I have spoken with have told me that most of the remains of Atlantis were crushed under this massive weight of ice -- but there are certain pockets where you can still find some very neat stuff."

He then posts this information from the Timaeus of Plato:Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour.

For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end.

This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles.

The island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean...

Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent.

Furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia.

OK. So Libya at that time included what is now Morocco and went as far West as the Atlantic Ocean.

Atlantis sits just West of the Pillars of Hercules, (Rock of Gibraltar area where Spain and Morocco form a narrow strait from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic. So, if Atlantis is now Antactica owing to the angle of the Earth moving from pole shift, how come Greece, Spain and "Libya" are still in a temperate climate.

Wouldn't they are have to move together given the scenario and reasons for Atlantis winding up on the bottom of the Earth?

I believe the Plato part and the geography there. The Atlantic/Antarctica idea and reasoning are meeting fierce resistance from the guardians of reason in the left hemisphere of my brain.

Did anyone else pick up on this?

You would be extremely logical in your thinking, that would be right, I dont know if I would ask DW though :tape2:

[Bill Ryan]

The Atlantic/Antarctica idea and reasoning are meeting fierce resistance from the guardians of reason in the left hemisphere of my brain.

Did anyone else pick up on this?

Essential reading:

When the Sky Fell by Rand and Rose Flem-Ath

http://amazon.com/When-Sky-Fell-Search-Atlantis/dp/0312964013

Everything you're puzzling over is discussed in this article:

http://flem-ath.com/favourites/atlantis-in-antarctica






Atlantis in Antarctica (http://www.flem-ath.com/favourites/atlantis-in-antarctica/)

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/iceberg.jpg

The greatest mass of an iceberg lies hidden unseen beneath the surface of the water.

Likewise, underlying the search for Atlantis are many deep unseen prejudices. Atlantis is a ‘where is here’ riddle. To unravel this riddle we need to be willing to challenge what we have been taught.

Below is a map showing our common perception of separate continents and oceans.

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/north-up.jpg

Below is a US Naval projection of the world centered on Antarctica.

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/US-naval.jpg

From a southern perspective we see that our planet has only one ocean. The unity of the world’s “oceans” is central to the oldest account of Atlantis.

An Egyptian priest entrusted Plato’s ancestor, Solon, with the legend of Atlantis. In Solon’s time (c.600 B.C.) the words Libya and Asia had a different meaning as did the term – Pillars of Hercules.

The Greek worldview of 600 B.C.

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Greek-worldview.jpg

At this time Libya referred to a landmass the size of present-day North Africa. Asia was the size of what we know as the Middle East.

The red dot (on the map) between Libya and Europe was called the Pillars of Heracles, today’s Strait of Gibraltar. It’s second meaning to the ancient Greeks is ignored in almost all theories of Atlantis. It meant ‘the limit of the known world’.

The Atlantean Worldview

The ocean level at 9,600 B.C. – when Atlantis perished – was lower than today. Below is a map showing the world before the Flood as seen from Antarctica. Also shown are the Greeks’ notion of Libya (yellow) and Asia (green). This area is approximately the size of Antarctica (red).

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/at-libya-asia-other-islands-70.jpg

Plato wrote that the island of Atlantis was “… larger than Libya [yellow] and Asia [green] combined; from it [Atlantis - red] there was passage for the sea-farers of those times to reach the other islands, [tan – now under ice] and from them the whole opposite continent [white] which surrounds what can truly be called the ocean. For these regions [turquoise] that lie within the strait we were talking about seem to be but a bay having a narrow entrance; but the other ocean is the real ocean and the land which entirely surrounds [white] it may with fullest truth and fitness be named a continent.” Plato Timaeus

Every search for Atlantis must explain these words. We submit that the map above accurately depicts Plato’s 2400 year old account of the location of Atlantis. This implies the existence of a long lost advanced civilization that possessed an accurate knowledge of our planet’s geography.

. . . . . . . . .

In 1665, the German Jesuit priest, Athanasius Kircher (http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Kircher.jpg), published Mundus Subterraneus, a massive book which included a reproduction of an ancient Egyptian map of Atlantis.

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Kircher-map.jpg

The Latin label translates: “Site of Atlantis, now beneath the sea, according to the beliefs of the Egyptians and the description of Plato.”

Kircher mistakenly believed Atlantis was an island in the North Atlantic Ocean.

In 1665, when this map was first published, Antarctica had not been discovered.

Below is Kircher’s Egyptian map of Atlantis compared to a modern geophysical globe showing Antarctica without its ice and with south in the “up” position.

http://www.flem-ath.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Kirk-vs-Ant.jpg

The present shape of ice-free Antarctica as depicted in this modern view is based upon the current ocean level, not that of 9600 B.C.
Atlantis did not actually sink beneath the waves. Instead, as the old ice caps melted, the ocean level rose, covering parts of the continent.

Further distortions in our modern map, compared to Kircher’s, are a result of the massive weight of today’s Antarctic ice sheet which depressed parts of the continent, causing more and more land to fall below ocean level.

We believe that Kircher’s Egyptian map of Atlantis represents in size, shape, scale and position an ice-free Antarctica.

So what happened? How did Atlantis become Antarctica? Please see Earth Crust Displacement (http://www.flem-ath.com/2009/07/earth-crust-displacement/).

Watch for a new edition of When the Sky Fell in 2012.

[modwiz]

Thank you Bill. I can see my left hemisphere was working with incorrect coordinates. You have been very helpful here.

Now I have an edit to do. :rolleyes:

[JoshERTW]

Not a bad read, look forward to hearing the rest of the story.

Bill, thanks for the link and maps, also an interesting read.

J

[Humble Janitor]

Interesting read but I don't understand why he felt the need to include the NY Times Bestseller list bit? Is this proof of Wilcock's ego at play?

I do not think he needs to sell books to convince people. His perspective is just but one in a sea filled with perspectives.

[cloud9]

Interesting read but I don't understand why he felt the need to include the NY Times Bestseller list bit? Is this proof of Wilcock's ego at play?

I do not think he needs to sell books to convince people. His perspective is just but one in a sea filled with perspectives.

I know sometimes it's a bit hard to overcome DW's ego but perhaps we can make an effort..... he's a good person I believe and we all have flaws, ego is his Aquile's heel but which ones are ours? Judgment perhaps?

[cloud9]

Let's give people some credit!

[Jean-Luc]

Interesting reading on this blog Bill mentionned.

I found this article on the same blog.
Helps give further credence to this approach, doesn't it ?



http://www.flem-ath.com/flemath/was-albert-einstein-silly/


Was Albert Einstein silly?
Plate Tectonics Versus Earth Crust Displacement???

Critics of earth crust displacement (ECD) have frequently tried to belittle Albert Einstein’s enthusiastic support for Charles Hapgood’s theory of earth crust displacement. If the theory of earth crust displacement is silly, as the ECD critics imply, then does that make Professor Einstein silly? They don’t want to say that. So instead they try to put words into Einstein’s mouth. They say Albert Einstein was not a geologist and if he had lived that he would have recognized that the theory of plate tectonics superseded Hapgood’s theory. They falsely assume that Hapgood’s theory is in conflict with plate tectonics. On page 3 of the first edition of When the Sky Fell we explained the actual relationship between plate tectonics and earth crust displacements:

“Plate tectonics and earth crust displacement both share the assumption of a mobile crust. The ideas are not mutually exclusive but rather complementary. Plate tectonics explains long-term, slow changes like mountain building, volcanic activity, and local earthquakes. Earth crust displacement accepts that these processes are gradual but posits a much more dramatic and abrupt movement of the crust that can explain different problems such as mass extinctions, glaciation patterns, and the sudden rise of agriculture.”

Moreover, Albert Einstein did not have to be a geologist to understand that Hapgood’s theory was addressing significant, long-standing, unsolved problems. For instance, the rapid, violent melting of the former ice sheet on North America some 11,600 years ago is something that plate tectonics is incapable of explaining. But there is even a more serious objection to the assumption that you have to be trained in the field of geology in order to be able to make contributions to the field. Alfred Wegner, the early pioneer of plate tectonics, was trained as an astronomer not a geologist. Under the criteria that the ECD critics make about Albert Einstein, Alfred Wegner wasn’t qualified to create his theory. Looking at the history of science in a broader perspective we see that Thomas Kuhn’s The Structure of Scientific Revolutions demonstrates again and again that major paradigm shifts are typically initiated by investigators untrained in the field where they make their breakthroughs.

While Albert Einstein may not have the geological credentials demanded by ECD critics, the other prominent scientist who ALSO wrote a Foreword to Hapgood’s book most certainly did. It is curious that ECD critics fail to report Professor Kirtley Mather’s support for Hapgood’s theory of earth crust displacement.

Kirtley F. Mather (1888-1978) was one of the most prominent geologists of the twentieth century. He was the Head of the Geology Department at Harvard University and served as the President of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. He was elected four times to be the President of the American Academy of Arts and Science. He was one of the few scientists who stood up to Joseph McCarthy. He prepared the geological deposition for Clarence Darrow in the famous “Scope’s Monkey Trial” when the theory of evolution was challenged in the courts. Stephen Jay Gould regarded Professor Mather as his mentor. In his Foreword to Hapgood’s book, Mather wrote:

“The numerous unsolved problems to which Mr. Hapgood directs attention should be the subjects of intensified debate among scientists in very part of the world.”

Both Mather and Einstein knew something of the philosophy of science. They understood that the unsolved problem is the basic unit of scientific exploration. Theories are like nets designed to capture and explain problems. Hence the importance that Mather gave to the earth crust displacement theory’s ability to address “numerous unsolved problems.”

A brief look at some of the chapter titles of Hapgood’s Path of the Pole demonstrates the unsolved problems that he was addressing:

* Chapter 2: The Failure to Explain the Ice Ages.
* Chapter 3: The Failure to Explain Climatic Change.
* Chapter 5: The Violent Life of the Great Ice Sheet.
* Chapter 6: The Sudden Melting of the Ice Sheet.
* Chapter 10: The Extinction of the Mammoths and the Masodons.
* Chapter 11: The Evidence of Violent Extinction in South America.

None of these problems can be adequately explained by plate tectonics. That doesn’t mean that plate tectonics is wrong. It simply means that in order to address serious unsolved problems, like those listed above, we need an additional theory of how the earth works. Plate tectonic explains gradual changes and earth crust displacement explains abrupt changes. “The ideas are not mutually exclusive but rather complementary.”

[hardrock]

Interesting discussion. Wilcock has an element about him that I cannot explain that is off-putting. I hate to say that, as I can't explain it, and don't want to accuse him of anything.

But I love piecing together history's mysteries, and my hats off to you that have done your work on this and posted for reading.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well we'll soon see what happens on or around these dates... ;-)

To quote Wilcock...
WATCH FOR APRIL THE 8TH

I don't like dropping dates, but April 8th is going to be a very, very interesting day. This has gotten a bit long, so I will save the bulk of this argument for an update that will emerge by or before this date.

Three different massive events all coalesce on this one focal-point -- just a week before taxes are due in the US:

SUPREME COURT RULES AGAINST THE FED: The Supreme Court has given the Federal Reserve a two-week deadline to reveal where the money went -- as of Monday, March 21st. This decision is one of the most significant events in American history. That brings us to April 4th -- four days before the 8th.

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN: The Democrats and Republicans in Congress cannot agree on a budget. The US government will therefore shut down as of April 8th -- and there is no indication anyone will stop it. That means no paychecks, no services, et cetera -- for an indeterminate time.

NEW BRETTON WOODS: On this very same day, the first meeting to completely overhaul the world's financial system will take place. Other countries will now have much more of a say. This is the literal fulfillment of everything Fulford and I have been saying for so long.

This will create a massive wave of prosperity and directly pave the way for the release of clean, 'free' energy technology.

viking

[jjl]

Viking, if you go to gov websites it says SOME of the government will shut down. Postal services, social security and welfare and public health will remain open. Parks and things will be closed. Believe it or not, we have had this happen before in my state. It's not the catastrophy people make it out to be. Eventually it will crumble. But slowly, they arent just going to close up toll bridges. We need not give into dire predictions. If we keep our heads, we can make it through the changs unscathed
(mostly)

[Circe]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed the profile picture of David on his blog website.
http://divinecosmos.com/images/DavidWilcockSearch.jpg
I am no expert in hand signals but I know a little, now the above looks suspciously like DUEGAURD or maybe not,what do you guys think?
Duegard of a "Past Master": Thumb and forefinger under/on chin:
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/thumb/Duegard-and-step-of-a-past-master.jpg/48px-Duegard-and-step-of-a-past-master.jpg
Benjamin Franklin
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/thumb/Benjamin_Franklin.JPG/95px-Benjamin_Franklin.JPG
(b. 1706 - d. 1790)

"Hanging over the fireplace in the famous Green Room at the White House in Washington, D.C. is an acclaimed oil portrait of Benjamin Franklin, one of our country’s most celebrated “founding fathers.” It depicts the famed statesman sitting studiously, poring over an ancient document which he is holding with his right hand. His left hand, meanwhile, is at his throat, set with the finger in a V-design, the thumb pushing upward to his chin. Franklin’s neck is a prominent focus of the painting. Obviously, this is a sign Franklin is communicating."

Sir Francis Dashwood
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/thumb/Sir_Francis_Dashwood_b.1708_-_d.1781.jpg/97px-Sir_Francis_Dashwood_b.1708_-_d.1781.jpg
Founder of the infamous and notorious Hellfire Club in England. Quite possibly a Jacobite secret agent. Rumored to have also been involved in the Rosicrucian movement and Freemasonry.

The Hellfire Club was a secret society which engaged in depraved sexual orgies, drunkenness, Satanism, and held Black Masses.
Members included prominent men of the British aristocracy, and the most influential politicians of the day.

Paul Revere
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/thumb/Paul_Revere.jpg/96px-Paul_Revere.jpg

Freemason, metal-smith and American Revolutionary War patriot. Initiated at St. Andrews Lodge, Boston, Massachusetts in 1760.
Revere made seals and jewels for several Masonic lodges. [54]

Revere was Grand Master of St. Andrews Lodge in 1770 and again in 1777-79, and from 1780-82.

Kramer actor Michael Richards
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/images/thumb/Michael_richards_mason_duegard.jpg/85px-Michael_richards_mason_duegard.jpg
Seinfeld actor "Kramer" Michael A. Richards on the cover of a masonic magazine. [56]

Note: He is a "Master Mason" and also holds 33° in the Scottish Rite.

I am not saying David is a freemason but what I am saying his photograph on his blog website IMHO is very odd.

Remember make of the above what you will I am not here to argue the case.

Circe.

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[modwiz]

As the illustration depicts, this particular duegard is performed with the right hand. Both David and Michael Richards are using their left hands. This disqualifies them from performing this particular duegard.

I hope this had been helpful because being incorrect isn't.

[Circe]

I hope this had been helpful because being incorrect isn't.

Thank you for your input MODWIZ and you are entitled to your opinion. I think the bottom line of your reply was not necessary IMHO.
By all means educate me and correct my posts.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/images/dcodex_21.jpg

Richards says he is a keen student of Masonry and its symbolism and has over 1,000 masonic books in his home in California. Observe Michael Richards' clearly Masonic handsign, which presents the V and is the "due-guard" sign of initiation in the Order of Knights Templar which relates to the penalty of the obligation—the oath agreeing that one's head will be impaled on the highest spire in Christendom as a penalty for revealing secrets. The sign is also similar to the sign for the "due-guard" of the Past Master, 5th degree in the Scottish Rite.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/images/dcodex_22.jpg

U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) is highly exalted by the elite as this photo demonstrates. The strategy of this photo, with the Senator standing between two swords (symbols of authority) and two encircled sun signs (symbol of the Masonic and Illuminati Deity of Light) shows great favoritism toward this lady, especially as this bio-sketch and photo is in a major newsmagazine, Newsweek (June 26, 2000).

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/images/dcodex_23.jpg

A few signs of the Rosicrucian Order. Many are similar to those of Freemasonry and other secret societies. The penalty sign related to having one's throat cut is shown at number X



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/codex_magica15.htm#FIFTEEN

IMHO David Wilcock's blog photograph pose is odd considering the above.David's pose is very similar to image number 3,the only difference is David uses his left hand, but as pointed out above "Richards" uses his left hand in his pose on the front cover of a magazine.Does anyone know if you must use your right hand or can yo use your left hand in such a so called masonic pose?

If you don't agree with the above then that's okay, make of the above what you will. We are all here to learn and share and hopefully educate each other as a result, please no flaming or nagative comments, all flaming and negative personal comments will be ignored.

Make of the above what you will... I am not here to argue the case for or against I just find it interesting.

Circe.

[9eagle9]

The shift thing has me confused too, all other areas should have shifted and took them into a different area as well. This will be explained away as continental drift but the centrifugal force of a shift forces everything in the same direction, not just a few select continents.

If this is a match between who can come up with the most convincing evidence Michael Tsarion has even more convincing, compelling evidential speculations where Atlantis is located. A handful of other researchers that were ignored as well will step forward to substantiate that. Because they evidence is physical and scattered all over the place. When the researchers started making their speculations based on evidence you can look at in the here and now....their time frame of discovery fits the time frame that Cayce gave for the rediscovery of Atlantis.

Like everything else it was hidden in plain sight....????



OK. I am not too proud to ask for help when perhaps somebody can explain something that my intellect cannot wrap around.

David said this:" This Ice Age, where the land was suddenly overrun by glaciers in a very short period of time and sea level rose by as much as 300 feet, appears to have been the result of a pole shift -- where tropical areas suddenly became polar regions.

Atlantis, originally an "island continent" surrounded by water, became Antarctica -- and all the water that washed over it was quick-frozen into ice.

Some of the insiders I have spoken with have told me that most of the remains of Atlantis were crushed under this massive weight of ice -- but there are certain pockets where you can still find some very neat stuff."

He then posts this information from the Timaeus of Plato:Many great and wonderful deeds are recorded of your state in our histories. But one of them exceeds all the rest in greatness and valour.

For these histories tell of a mighty power which unprovoked made an expedition against the whole of Europe and Asia, and to which your city put an end.

This power came forth out of the Atlantic Ocean, for in those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles.

The island was larger than Libya and Asia put together, and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean...

Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent.

Furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia.

OK. So Libya at that time included what is now Morocco and went as far West as the Atlantic Ocean.

Atlantis sits just West of the Pillars of Hercules, (Rock of Gibraltar area where Spain and Morocco form a narrow strait from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic. So, if Atlantis is now Antactica owing to the angle of the Earth moving from pole shift, how come Greece, Spain and "Libya" are still in a temperate climate.

Wouldn't they are have to move together given the scenario and reasons for Atlantis winding up on the bottom of the Earth?

I believe the Plato part and the geography there. The Atlantic/Antarctica idea and reasoning are meeting fierce resistance from the guardians of reason in the left hemisphere of my brain.

Did anyone else pick up on this?

I did enjoy the blog post and effort by David though.

[Random]

Interesting. I must admit all those signs in your photograph are things I do naturally, I wonder if others do them naturally as well without any meaning ? Just a thought.

[butcherman]

will David be making the info freely available in time u see dear avelonians i haven't earnt a significant buck since last september and the though of coungering up money is a daunting thought right now