Will Jerusalem fall in 2012?

[Calz]

There have been a few interesting threads regarding Jay Weidner's work on Stanley Kubrick.

Here is a new aritcle from Jay on his take regarding another alleged illuminati inspired/financed major motion picture:

Will Jerusalem fall in 2012?

Does a high budget Hollywood film predict the end?

By
Jay Weidner
Copyright 2011

Every conspiracy theorist worth his salt discusses the idea that Hollywood is run by the Illuminati and that the films produced by Hollywood are designed to create a cultural effect. This cultural effect is one that is desired by the Illuminati and that is why they fund these film projects. The theory is that the bigger the budget of the film the more likely that the film is actually just a propaganda tool.

Having once been part of the Hollywood scene I can attest to the many stories and rumors I heard about the group that controls Hollywood.

http://jayweidner.com/kingdomofheaven.html

[Icecold]

Will Jerusalem fall in 2012?

Fall where?

It was there before 1948 and I think it will be there after 2012. Might have different tenants. :)

[Calz]

Might have different tenants. :)

Which is what the article implies as Jay's interpretation of the what sort of social conditioning is being foisted upon the viewers.

[Ahkenaten]

Given the propaganda agenda of films from Bollywood, the purpose of this film would be to generate push-back against the idea that Jerusalem would fall, obviously, what else???....Weidner's somewhat disingenuous puzzlement about the purposes notwithstanding!

In the meantime I found this:

The RA god of Egypt was considered to be the "Father of Terror" and the Sphinx at Giza, known in the Arabic tradition as Abu-Hol, or "Father of Terrors." Given the root connection of these two historic pieces of ancient Egyptian history with the concept of "Terror"............add to that the parallels between the Giza Plateau, the pyramids, the Sphinx and the ruins of extraterrestrial civilizations on Mars (Cydonia, etc.) that some feel hold evidence of intergalactic warfare using planet-busting technologies - is it any wonder that the US declared a never-ending "war on TERROR" AND that there may well be an extraterrestrial twist to the narrative sometime in the future???

Which of course in my mind raises the question of who is fighting who here? Once again it is looking to me like the ancient battle between Enlil and Enki (who were relatives in the pantheon of the Sumerian 'gods') and their descendants. I wonder what "side" the US government is on? Once again, given the nature of the opponents I think it unwise to chose up sides in this battle. Let them fight it out themselves.

As Richard Hoagland puts it...............to be continued......

[Lord Sidious]

Interesting article, but flawed.
Judaism, Islam and Christianity are middle eastern religions, not western.
Salah al din al Ayoubi, Saladin, was a Kurd, not an arab.
And the muslims those days were in fact less barbaric than the crusaders, that is an historical fact.
The crusaders raped, pillaged and robbed, not very nice behaviour.
On the topic of the thread, I have a very nasty feeling that the entire population of israel is a sacrificial lamb.
Remember, the population is part jewish, part arab, part druze and other minorities.
Those that own israel, the rothschilds, don't live there.
They spent a lot of money in the late 1800's onwards to buy the land up to found the state.
Why would they not live there themselves?
The other elites, the schiffs, the warburgs and the rest also don't live there.
I don't like this one bit.

[ViralSpiral]

Will this be filmed on the same sets of the moon landings?

I read this screaming headline recently: Swiss President announces plans to break Gaza siege

politricks....

[Calz]

Will this be filmed on the same sets of the moon landings?

I read this screaming headline recently: Swiss President announces plans to break Gaza siege

politricks....

from the article:


The film is called Kingdom of Heaven. It starred Orlando Bloom as the fictionalized version of Bailian of Ibelin, the last Christian leader of Jerusalem. The film came out in 2005

Thanks to everyone for their input. I found it interesting based on attempting to discern the (alleged) illuminati motive. I have not seen the film itself.

[ViralSpiral]

Sorry Calz, my bad. I had not read the article
I have Twenty-twelve-ilitis http://www.free-emoticons.co.uk/emoticons/Sick/sick0026.gif



Read it now. Best bit: I believe that Kingdom of Heaven is designed to soften us up mentally for this idea.

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[Calz]

Interesting article, but flawed.
Judaism, Islam and Christianity are middle eastern religions, not western.
Salah al din al Ayoubi, Saladin, was a Kurd, not an arab.
And the muslims those days were in fact less barbaric than the crusaders, that is an historical fact.
The crusaders raped, pillaged and robbed, not very nice behaviour.
On the topic of the thread, I have a very nasty feeling that the entire population of israel is a sacrificial lamb.
Remember, the population is part jewish, part arab, part druze and other minorities.
Those that own israel, the rothschilds, don't live there.
They spent a lot of money in the late 1800's onwards to buy the land up to found the state.
Why would they not live there themselves?
The other elites, the schiffs, the warburgs and the rest also don't live there.
I don't like this one bit.

Surprised this didn't draw more interest.

Lord Sidious - note post # 7 that the movie (according to Weidner) is *fictionalized* ... a great platform for spouting personal opinions of "truths" without necessarily having a real "basis in truth". The story here is what the illuminati are trying to promote.

Follow the link and look at the 2012 written on Orlando Bloom's forehead speaks volumes on what Weidner's article and thus my OP is attempting to call attention to. Sup with dat???

Your added comments (sadly) are all too painfully obvious. The innocents of Isreal seem poised for yet another sacrifice. Thanks to the internet and many coming forth with the truth that the Zionist plans are quite stark.

Now that I think about it ... does Israel have access to Avalon? Can't recall seeing the flag (but I could be wrong). Hopefully they have access to what is being pushed upon them.

I would suggest that (at least in terms of "the plan") they will not be alone. Looking at what land has been purchased overseas by "fleeing elite" from usa coupled with the remaining to be heading underground in the DUMBS ... not lookin good here as well (aka George Green message).

Anyway ... despite "the plan" I refuse to give up hope and still take solice in those who are connected and have a positive message to convey.

No doubt the next few years will be "interesting" yet I expect the "Universe" or "Creator" will have something to say regarding the final outcome (even if it is a "reset" and start again from a "higher level")

Cal

[Davidallany]

Will Jerusalem fall in 2012?

Fall where?

It was there before 1948 and I think it will be there after 2012. Might have different tenants.




You crack me up, mate. :)

[Lord Sidious]

Interesting article, but flawed.
Judaism, Islam and Christianity are middle eastern religions, not western.
Salah al din al Ayoubi, Saladin, was a Kurd, not an arab.
And the muslims those days were in fact less barbaric than the crusaders, that is an historical fact.
The crusaders raped, pillaged and robbed, not very nice behaviour.
On the topic of the thread, I have a very nasty feeling that the entire population of israel is a sacrificial lamb.
Remember, the population is part jewish, part arab, part druze and other minorities.
Those that own israel, the rothschilds, don't live there.
They spent a lot of money in the late 1800's onwards to buy the land up to found the state.
Why would they not live there themselves?
The other elites, the schiffs, the warburgs and the rest also don't live there.
I don't like this one bit.

Surprised this didn't draw more interest.

Lord Sidious - note post # 7 that the movie (according to Weidner) is *fictionalized* ... a great platform for spouting personal opinions of "truths" without necessarily having a real "basis in truth". The story here is what the illuminati are trying to promote.

Follow the link and look at the 2012 written on Orlando Bloom's forehead speaks volumes on what Weidner's article and thus my OP is attempting to call attention to. Sup with dat???

Your added comments (sadly) are all too painfully obvious. The innocents of Isreal seem poised for yet another sacrifice. Thanks to the internet and many coming forth with the truth that the Zionist plans are quite stark.

Now that I think about it ... does Israel have access to Avalon? Can't recall seeing the flag (but I could be wrong). Hopefully they have access to what is being pushed upon them.

I would suggest that (at least in terms of "the plan") they will not be alone. Looking at what land has been purchased overseas by "fleeing elite" from usa coupled with the remaining to be heading underground in the DUMBS ... not lookin good here as well (aka George Green message).

Anyway ... despite "the plan" I refuse to give up hope and still take solice in those who are connected and have a positive message to convey.

No doubt the next few years will be "interesting" yet I expect the "Universe" or "Creator" will have something to say regarding the final outcome (even if it is a "reset" and start again from a "higher level")

Cal

One of our moderators is from israel as are others.
Check my friends list, I have two there.
And I get concerned when someone claims they know the deal, like weidner did, yet make such basic errors.
My comments are aimed at those who are interested in facts/truth.

[Calz]

Will Jerusalem fall in 2012?

Fall where?

It was there before 1948 and I think it will be there after 2012. Might have different tenants.




You crack me up, mate. :)

Ice has a great sense of humor and I wanted to reply "not into the Pacific with the rest of California" to his "fall where" but wasn't sure that would be understood by everyone else as a joke despite the ovious geographical reality.

Have to balance appreciating a laugh with those others who might not "be laughing".

[Davidallany]

Jerusalem will still be there as a city, but it's to whether or not it will experience peace and comes in terms with reality, is something I don't think anyone can truthfully answer.
Mr. Spock once said "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

[Calz]

Jerusalem will still be there as a city, but it's to whether or not it will experience peace and comes in terms with reality, is something I don't think anyone can truthfully answer.
Mr. Spock once said "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."

Understood and appreciated.

I continue to try to convey this thread is not so much about the "reality" of the situation as the "intended conditioning of perception" by the illuminati within hollywood to influence mass perception. There are those who suggest that said secret societies ***NEED*** the masses to CREATE REALITY and that is what is going on here. Others suggest that FREE WILL is involved and "they" need to get our "permission" on either a covert or over basis to carry out their evils.

Lesson to be learned is not give into the fear ... correct???

[Davidallany]

Lesson to be learned is not give into the fear ... correct???
Sure thing, fear and other feelings are due to not seeing with the third eye. Once that eye is open there is no place for fear.

[PurpleLama]

I would put forth that it is indeed the seeding, or conditionioning of reality that is accomplished through the cimematic medium. Perhaps by entertaining these "fictional" realities we are giving away some kind of implied consent. Naturally, the same would apply to television, music, or even the printed word. Advertising is just another form of mind control, then why not movies and all the rest? Just a thought.

[DawgBone]

I would put forth that it is indeed the seeding, or conditionioning of reality that is accomplished through the cimematic medium. Perhaps by entertaining these "fictional" realities we are giving away some kind of implied consent. Naturally, the same would apply to television, music, or even the printed word. Advertising is just another form of mind control, then why not movies and all the rest? Just a thought.

Absolutely! Western culture is nothing but mind control. Powerful, sophisticated and pervasive.

Blow up your TV.
Plant a garden.
Get a dog.

[davyj0nes]

is jay weidner is cuckoo in the cabeza. He was talking about 2012 on orlando blooms head. the whole tone of the article was just frightful.
I would also like to add that he is using buzz words, like illumanti, propaganda, stanley cubrik, pro arab. And, what is wrong with wanting jerusalem to be a city were all 3 faiths can be practiced in peace??? how is that wrong? And whats wrong with being pro arab??

His prediction at the end just came outta left field, lol to him.

[Elixer]

Freeman, the non-profit prophet, made a prediction about the Vatican trying to take the temple mount on July 14.
The first Scroogle hit leads right back to avalon:

freeman prediction jerusalem vatican (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2811-VACTICAN-to-Take-Control-of-Temple-Mount-4th-July-2010-11)

[conk]

Will Jerusalem fall in 2012?

Fall where?

It was there before 1948 and I think it will be there after 2012. Might have different tenants. :)
And maybe those tenants won't be Zionists.