MMS causing terrifying nightmares, sleep paralysis, demons in the room?

[shadowbox]

So, after suggesting MMS (miracle mineral solution) to a good friend of mine he decided to purchase a bottle. He said he is feeling better, doesn't feel sick at all. Let me just preface this post by saying that my friend rarely ever even remembers his dreams...

The first night his sleep improved vastly. Everything was great. For the first time in a long time he was feeling better again...

The second night, however, he started having nightmares & very vivid dreams. The third night he started having terrifying nightmares that were incredibly vivid. So much so that he woke up in the middle of the night multiple times.

He also began experiencing sleep paralysis with a pressure on his chest. He was also experiencing a "presence" in the room. He thought he saw something out of the corner of his vision, but it dissipated rather quickly.

The fourth night things started to become even more terrifying, he woke up in the middle of the night and saw a straight up demon sitting on his windowsill. He looked three times and it was still there, lasting about 5-10 seconds. He wasn't mistaking it, either. He was actually seeing a demon. It, too, dissipated.

So, what's the deal with MMS? He's going to continue taking it as he is feeling rather fine. He does not feel sick whatsoever.

Thank you for the help!

alex

[Autumn]

What is MMS?

[shadowbox]

What is MMS?Miracle mineral solution...

[Eva2]

Interesting - I started taking MMS a few days ago and had a rather intense experience last night - seemed to slip in and out of altered sort of states with lots of odd physical sensations. I don't know if this is directly related to MMS (foul stuff to drink) or something else. I don't think I could handle demons on the windsill though - that is very disturbing.

[benevolentcrow]

Never had such a reaction, have taken it on and off for two years... Sounds scary though.

[Agapi]

MMS will clear out your toxins, along with alot of other stuff, you will be more receptive because of that , that may mean your psychic abilities as well. The bad dreams are probably just clearing out, maybe he should make sure he does some meditation before going to sleep? keep himself in a good space there may be alot of hidden stuff his psychi is sorting out. He could also try clearing his house of any unwanted energy just incase somethings lurking?

[vibrations]

I have quite a lot of experience with MMS and I can tell you that the only negative side of it is that it is not so miracle as Jim say.

About your friend:
I am almost sure that the healing principle of MMS allowed his psychic part to unblock in some way so he started to experience more open minded reality which when it is coming so suddenly, can be very shocking. Imagine that you are filled with some chemical poison which builds a wall between the conciseness and unconscious mind, preventing you to know anything about parallel reality. So the first moment you are able to experience it is like the avalanche of all kind of sensations, perceptions and so on. Everything depends on how strong is a fear which accompanies all this stuff. Stronger the fear, lower vibrations and better terrain for any low-astral creatures to present in your reality.

So the advice would be a sessions of positive meditations to raise the vibrational level and close the door to the low level s**t.

[Dale]

This situation reminds me of the process in which settled dust it "kicked up" following a busy day of spring cleaning.

A cloud of dirt and soot persists for several minutes, but once it has been swept out through the open doors and windows, the room in will no longer be burdened by its presence.

Jungian psychology and spring cleaning, all in one post!

[Flash]

This situation reminds me of the process in which settled dust it "kicked up" following a busy day of spring cleaning.

A cloud of dirt and soot persists for several minutes, but once it has been swept out through the open doors and windows, the room in will no longer be burdened by its presence.

Jungian psychology and spring cleaning, all in one post!

It could just be as well that parasites in his body are dying off releasing chemical compounds in his blood stream, thence hallucinations. Just think of hallucinogenic worms found in Mexico. If it is the case, this should go away in a few days. I would reduce the dosage though.

[Rozzy]

So, after suggesting MMS (miracle mineral solution) to a good friend of mine he decided to purchase a bottle. He said he is feeling better, doesn't feel sick at all. Let me just preface this post by saying that my friend rarely ever even remembers his dreams...

The first night his sleep improved vastly. Everything was great. For the first time in a long time he was feeling better again...

The second night, however, he started having nightmares & very vivid dreams. The third night he started having terrifying nightmares that were incredibly vivid. So much so that he woke up in the middle of the night multiple times.

He also began experiencing sleep paralysis with a pressure on his chest. He was also experiencing a "presence" in the room. He thought he saw something out of the corner of his vision, but it dissipated rather quickly.

The fourth night things started to become even more terrifying, he woke up in the middle of the night and saw a straight up demon sitting on his windowsill. He looked three times and it was still there, lasting about 5-10 seconds. He wasn't mistaking it, either. He was actually seeing a demon. It, too, dissipated.

So, what's the deal with MMS? He's going to continue taking it as he is feeling rather fine. He does not feel sick whatsoever.

Thank you for the help!

alex

You did not say what was wrong with your friend that he was using MMS, the symptoms you describe do not sound like the effects of MMS, they are classic spirit realm interfearence events though.

[Matts]

Hello Alex,
I hope your friend takes MMS strongly according to the protocol by Jim Humble's book. And what is more important, that it is wisely to take only when there is a problem, a symptome. In my opinion it's not useful to take it for proving if it works or not, when there is no problem with health.
MMS (the active oxygene-ion from a 28% NaClO2-solution activated with an organic acid and diluted with water) destroys (oxygize) bacteria and monocell-organisms foreign to the human organism (very simplyfied). That's fine when fighting with Malaria etc. But it takes down the antioxydation abilities. That's why one should not take it over a longer time without eating any vitamins (Antioxydants) in form of fruits and vegetables (not at the same time of course) to recover.

The nightmares could be correlated to MMS but not being the direct cause of it I would say.

I used it several times, when i took a cold and it helped quiet a lot not to have the full spectrum of symptoms during the infection.

So if i felt bad by taking MMS I would stop taking it or decrease the dose. I'm convinced that it could help very effeciantly.

Best wishes

Matthias

[fathertedsmate]

MMS is a solution that has saved and changed my life,after 10 yrs of PTSD/combat stress,athsma,tinitus(30yrs),athritis,2 stone muscle loss,vertigo,intense fear,uncontrollable reactions,sweats,shingles,constant flem/liquid in nose/throat,constant cough,anxiety,stress,depression,unable to comunicate without sounding like a maniac,just a few of the benefits that come when told you are mentaly inbalanced and then the search for an incident, to place blame on, most of the time you dont know who you are,doctors(if x military you have ptsd,if civillian bi polar etc) then if you allow them out comes the medication,you are unstable as it is and a doctor tells you you need these pills and as time goes by nothing changes only more ailments more medication, veterans agencys can do nothing,veterans mental health, had me visiting 2 psycologists every 2 weeks for a year, that was untill i started my own re search, i had already noticed that all veterans who are TOLD they have ptsd,BEHAVE in the same way,anger,reactions,thought process,sweats,fear,have the same ailments, my family was being destroyed,my wife was worn out all down to my behaviour, i started to realise my body was breaking down i had to take action and the only way i could do that was by re search,problem was i could not retain information, i woke up one morning looked at how the liver worked then went on a journey which after doing a liver flush every 2 days for a month (this process calmed me down,released 1,000 of calcium then my mind felt like some one replaced a missing piece of a jigsaw) i then got tested for heavy metals and discovered massive amounts of lead,aluminium,cadamin,barium,palladium,mercury,tin,copper,nickel,tallium,i then took the results to the doctors,veterans agencys,veterans mental health signed me off when i told them i was doing a liver flush and was changing in front of them,there is no help, i watched jim humbles video and lights flashed in my head i have studied everthing about it, i can look into his eyes and know jim humble has nothing to hide,so i went through the protocol, during the process my life and feelings changed dramatically, i could see and smell metals and toxins coming out, after reaching 15 drops 3x daily for a week i continued taking it twice a day at 22 drops for 4 days,during this period i had serious runs for 4 days i later discovered that candida was departing the sceene of the crime,i used mms for a month during a 3 month period,then went for more tests, when the dr i was seeing called to enquire as to what if anything i had been using other than the chelation treatment he prescribed and cost a fortune,he didnt know i didnt use chelation only mms,this guy has been in the game for 25yrs and he was holding results that didnt make sense to him,most of the metals are out,my whole body has metal coming out of my pores,i havnt dealt with that yet, one thing i know is i will see my pension the whole experience has put me in a position where i can show you how to cure nearly any illness,take the tension,stress out of any human within weeks, and i understand how all illness occures,its just a small part of a
mad/dangerous experience thats called life,information is only as good as the source and i can assure you this one is glowing inside,

[Jake]

I cannot tell you about MMS. But I can tell you about Sleep paralysis episodes. And I can tell you about the same chest pressure and, yes, the same 'demon' that your friend saw.

I have had lots of OBEs. In the early years, The sleep paralysis was accompanied by Many different energy body sensations/pressures/vibrations. Have your friend google dweller on the threshold. Here is the Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweller_on_the_threshold

The 'dweller', (whatever it is) seems to be a part of early projection experiences, and it will go away entirely after several years. Other early projectors will not have the same 'problem'. There seems to be an inseperability between fear and the 'dweller'. I do not think that the dweller is an actual entity. But that does NOT make it any less terrifying.

I would not say that MMS was causing these 'attacks', as much as i would say that it is clearing the way for natural subtle energies to do their jobs. And Astral projection can be a side effect. Astral projection is as natural as breathing.

[truthman]

I never had anything wrong to say about MMS, everything has been positive. MMS is really the best and cheapest solution for pathogens type problems and that is why the PTB are after it. It could destroy their billion dollar pharmaceutical empire like other people have suggested.

I have had paralysis and that stuff happened to me and let me tell you that is NOT MMS. When you start going after the truth and working on your spirituality and improving your well being like eating well and removing toxins from your body (raising your vibration) that is when the attacks start happening.

Your friend should be strong and continue the right path and soon these symptoms will go away. In fact that is proof that he/she is doing something right otherwise the dark side won't bother.

[Eligos]

Been using it for 1year +, never had an issue with it.

[Rozzy]

Jake is right about the sleep paralysis, chest pressure, etc. OBE does introduce you to some pretty funky things.

[hedigoto]

A) Regarding MMS:

What MMS does is that it literally makes patogens and microbes explode, then your body has to get rid of all the mess left behind, that may cause nausea, dizziness, headeckes, diarrea, loss of energy, etc., due to the energy you metabolism is using to get rid of those.

I am no MD, but I read Jim Humble's book, and I suspect that may be thats the reason causing your friend's problems during his sleep.

What Humble recomends is to reduce the dosage, a drop or two at the time, until you find a dose wich doesn't cause you any side effects, the MMS still does its job, but at a rate that lets your body deal with it, then when your body is less intoxicated from patogens you may increase the dose little by little. I strongly recommend your friend to buy Jim Humble's book (in case he hasn't already) and read it cover to cover, so he comprehends what he is doing, and to better manage Mr. Humble's protocol depending on his health problem.

PS-I recommended MMS to a friend with prostate cancer, after 3 weeks of taking it his oncologist was amazed on how dramatically his prostate antigen levels had dropped, it was amazing, any way his sister is a very closed mind MD, and scared him about alternative medicine, she convinced him to stop MMS and start radiation therapy, sadly he has worsen his condition since that decission.

B) Regarding sleep paralysis:

I have suffered SP for a long time now, I have an episode aproximatelly once a month, I am what you would call a "night owl", I go to bed very late at night, and many times I don't get enough sleep time, I have notticed that my SP episodes occur when I am very tired and I've been stressed during the day, so I guess thats the main cause of my problem. I guess that your friend's SP episodes are related to his lack of good sleep, maybe reducing the MMS dosage will help.

I am not saying that all SP episodes are due to the same causes I suspect in my case, BTW Just one time I felt a presence in the room, I got scared, felt a vibration all over my body, ordered the presence to leave in the name of God and began to pray, I woke up in 30 seconds or so; I don't know if there really was a presence or it was due of dream state, I guess phisical problems are involved in this, and some times there may be other external factors involved, spirits, demons, transdimensional beings or whatever, I am not shure; after that episode when I have SP I try to remain calm, and fall asleep again, and some times I have been able to have lucid dreams, which are cool by the way, so I recommend your frind to do this also and see if it helps him.

[shybastid]

This thread is talking about MMS right now too..
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17593-Poll-MMS-Your-Verdict&p=189669#post189669

Lots of info about MMS.

[luciole]

I've tried taking MMS, a while back, wanting to do a sort of "detoxification" over a three week period. I stopped after ten days, because the side effects were to strong (nausea, and all ).I was using the progressive method, (you start with one drop in the morning and at night, and then everyday, you add a drop). The side effects were so bad, that I couldn't work or take care of my daily chores (ie familly life!!), and also, I couldn't stand the smell!! In the end, just smelling the thing made me sick!!!!!!!:sick:

I decided that I would only try MMS if I was REALLY sick! I respect Jim Humble, and I think that I wouldn't hesitate one second to try it if I had something serious!
I also see that Jim Humble has a new protocole, that probably works better: taking two or three drops every 2 hours.

But what is happening to your friend, I tend to agree with what Truthman says,

"When you start going after the truth and working on your spirituality and improving your well being like eating well and removing toxins from your body (raising your vibration) that is when the attacks start happening."

I totally AGREE!!! When you start changing your energy fields, and raising your consciousness, you attract dark enteties, it's part of the game! I haven't experienced attacks during my sleep, (wich sounds pretty freaky!! :shocked:) but I have exprienced panic attacks.
For no reason you start to panic and feel deep anguish... and it seems so real, you start thinking false things about your life, people around you, and yourself. It distorts your reality. To deal with this, I worked a lot on myself, mediation, and exercises to remove the entity out of my energy field, and put the entity back in it's own energy field.

And also,from what your frind is going through, i guess that that's just part of the game: accepting that there is a dark side, and dealing with it, instead of looking away, or running in panic!

[Carmody]

The loosing of a bacterial load can clean up the body to such an extent that a prior aspect of capacity for astral projection, etc..may emerge. The body becomes clear and it is the window the soul works through so it can be very important regarding it's health.

As well, age and astrology count (as a pair). Perhaps it was 'time' for this person to begin experiencing these things. Ie, a clearing of the body AND a astrological precondition for this sort of energetic mix-up (addition) to their life.

one must use all possible data, experiential or otherwise.

In a given situation where the answer is not clear, this means the mistake is in the data or how it is worked. in this case it may be and is likely a in incomplete data and knowledge set. I know this seems obvious but we all have a tendency to press a button that we know does not work..repeatedly. Human nature. It is human nature to attempt to make a judgment call on situations that simply require more data and more rumination.

[Arrowwind]

Jake is right about the sleep paralysis, chest pressure, etc. OBE does introduce you to some pretty funky things.

It sounds like spirit invasion to me, having had gone through this my self. MMS may or may not have precipated it. How can you ever know?

The Essene's have said that in your healing all manner of demons must be cast out.

Always JIm Humble says if you have a hard time with the symptoms reduce the dosage to where you are comfortable.
Even 2 drops of mms will get most things given enough time.. Even MMS in the unactivated form will detox you.
1 drop mms = about 6 drops of the classic activated oxygen products... what Jim initially used to cure his first malaria cases.

For demon possession I will tell you what worked for me... As the demon approached and tried to enter my body my mind seemed to intuitvely know to form the vision of a blazing white cross of light in my mind. that shined down though my body... and this was on its second attempt to invade me... it cast it out and I was never bothered again.... and no, I am not a christian by any conventional stardards of the definition.

[seko]

The reason why Jim Humble uses the word Miracle.......is to get the FDA and big pharma companies from away form him and mms, when people use the word miracle sounds like FAKE, that was the whole intention, that's why there is no publicity of it anywhere, becuase people would think that is a fraud, that's why Jim Humble said, MMS is only for people that are ready for it. But it works, destroys bacteria, and the body gets it out, through diarrea, vomit, sweat, urine. Try it. see it for yourself.

[BMJ]

Hi shadowbox,
Here's is a link below to a thread I started I had a similiar experience, I used sage to cleanse the house and us and it works very well. Also the entities are attracted to negativity it provides them a means to enter your body and experience life. Also, a positive state of mind is very benefical in keeping these entities away. I had alot of great input from fellow Avalonians which was very help, please read.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14614-Physical-possession-by-another-spirit

[bilko]

Ok folks, i am about ready to try MMS.
My throat moves from side to side like a lump of gristle with pain to match., i am constantly tired, my feces smells like metal and i have constant panic attacks.
Where can i buy MMS from in the uk please?
Also does anyone know if it shows on a drug scan as i have random testing at work?
We are supposed to tell them about Any medication we take to see if its on the list as i drive for a living now.

As for the demon, i saw one once when i woke up briefly. It was a four legged creature with red eyes. It was on my left hand side and it dashed to my right in a sit second.
Had me sitting bolt upright blowing through my teeth, fists clenched.
I cleansed the room and house by burning a sage bundle and getting the smoke into every room and then releasing it through the window.
I draw pentagrams on my windows and doors every night with my finger and speak an incantation over them.
I have desert sage and Osha root on my window sills and door frame.
I have a protective grid of selenite crystals and others when i sleep.

Yes, some people really are this f**ked up lol.
Can you pm me with the website ( pref UK based ) if not allowed to post here, thank you.

[Rozzy]

Jake is right about the sleep paralysis, chest pressure, etc. OBE does introduce you to some pretty funky things.

It sounds like spirit invasion to me, having had gone through this my self. MMS may or may not have precipated it. How can you ever know?

The Essene's have said that in your healing all manner of demons must be cast out.

Always JIm Humble says if you have a hard time with the symptoms reduce the dosage to where you are comfortable.
Even 2 drops of mms will get most things given enough time.. Even MMS in the unactivated form will detox you.
1 drop mms = about 6 drops of the classic activated oxygen products... what Jim initially used to cure his first malaria cases.

For demon possession I will tell you what worked for me... As the demon approached and tried to enter my body my mind seemed to intuitvely know to form the vision of a blazing white cross of light in my mind. that shined down though my body... and this was on its second attempt to invade me... it cast it out and I was never bothered again.... and no, I am not a christian by any conventional stardards of the definition.


I will add my first post in case it may be far enough back it got missed:

You did not say what was wrong with your friend that he was using MMS, the symptoms you describe do not sound like the effects of MMS, they are classic spirit realm interfearence events though.

[Unified Serenity]

MMS will clear out your toxins, along with alot of other stuff, you will be more receptive because of that , that may mean your psychic abilities as well. The bad dreams are probably just clearing out, maybe he should make sure he does some meditation before going to sleep? keep himself in a good space there may be alot of hidden stuff his psychi is sorting out. He could also try clearing his house of any unwanted energy just incase somethings lurking?

Those were my thoughts exactly Agapi. Once we remove the toxins we tend to get more active in our abilities. It's the reason they put them in our food, water, and air to begin with. They are systematically trying to shut down the Pineal gland and our other abilities. Maybe MMS is clearing that out and he's now seeing what's been there all along.

Serenity

[LightningResistor]

I'm sorry to hear about your friend's SP, I hope he overcomes it soon. :)

After reading through this thread, I'm curious about MMS- I'm considering giving it a try. Does anyone know much about Nutrasilver? Does it have similar uses? And can one take both MMS and Nutrasilver, or would that be redundant?

[Nyce555]

That is vey insteresting. I also have sleep paralysis and sometimes Astral Travel. I used to feel an evil presence in the room and would be terrified, but then I prayed for protection. One night I had an angelic presence in my room that was protecting me from the evil presence and from that point forward I knew that it would never be able to harm me. I did not give it power over me so it went away. The fear draws it in. I still have sleep paralysis, but I do not have any more scary ones. I do still feel a presence in the room, but it is not scary. It feels more like someone is there to watch and protect me while my spirit is out and about.

[Arrowwind]

I'm sorry to hear about your friend's SP, I hope he overcomes it soon. :)

After reading through this thread, I'm curious about MMS- I'm considering giving it a try. Does anyone know much about Nutrasilver? Does it have similar uses? And can one take both MMS and Nutrasilver, or would that be redundant?

I have used both and I keep both in my home arsenal. I like nutrasilver quite a bit. It is one of the only things effective against morgellons disease (which I do not have).. since I track testimonials on MMS quite a bit, I have yet to come across one that says MMS is helpful in Morgellons disease. I have even read that topical applications of mms can make the morgellons move around.

Both MMS can Nutrasilver can help in Lyme disease, but you have to do a very specific protocol.. I posted a Lyme cure thread in Alterntive medicines forum.

So no. I do not think they would be redundant in all cases...

MMS is way way less expensive to take and of course that is a major consideration for many people. Collodial silver does not cause the stomach upset and nausea that MMS can cause.

so yes, they can be used for similar things... I have found more immediate results with mms, but so much of this is subjective. Many people swear by colloidal silver for everything. I do know for a fact that colloidal silver when properly applied can cure some cases of multiple sclerosis.... and it has taken IV applications... I have also read that MS is benefited by MMS,,, but I have not actually seen the cure word associated with it yet... but significant improvement indicates to me that it is a strong possiblity. Jim Humble has done a lot of experimentiation with using MMS by IV. Perhaps that is what is required for this... or maybe just a long course of use.

[Arrowwind]

One night I had an angelic presence in my room that was protecting me from the evil presence and from that point forward I knew that it would never be able to harm me. I did not give it power over me so it went away. The fear draws it in. I still have sleep paralysis, but I do not have any more scary ones. .

since my experience with a demon trying to possess me and my visualtization of a white cross of light in my body to conquer it... I have felt invincible since regarding spirit invasion... and I have even taken to doing exorcisms of homes etc on occassion. It still feels like that cross is within me.

I would not worry too much about sleep paralysis for the most part, as long as it is not a problem with a physiological malfunction. This can happen when you are traveling, the paralysis... you literally are not home and the body is almost an empty shell till your soul returns.

Sleep apnea would be the problem to look out for... but they are not necessarily associated, paralysis and apnea.

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8k7Yrf1z8s&feature=related

Namasté

[Arrowwind]

My view on this is if you are very toxic you will much more susceptible to demon posession...not if you are cleaned out..
I would likely consider this demon thing a healing crisis... lots of toxins stirred up that may interfere with your normal channels of protection.
In all healing the demoms must go, both those of chemical origin and astral origin.

[Nyce555]

One night I had an angelic presence in my room that was protecting me from the evil presence and from that point forward I knew that it would never be able to harm me. I did not give it power over me so it went away. The fear draws it in. I still have sleep paralysis, but I do not have any more scary ones. .

since my experience with a demon trying to possess me and my visualtization of a white cross of light in my body to conquer it... I have felt invincible since regarding spirit invasion... and I have even taken to doing exorcisms of homes etc on occassion. It still feels like that cross is within me.

I would not worry too much about sleep paralysis for the most part, as long as it is not a problem with a physiological malfunction. This can happen when you are traveling, the paralysis... you literally are not home and the body is almost an empty shell till your soul returns.

Sleep apnea would be the problem to look out for... but they are not necessarily associated, paralysis and apnea.



This has been happening to me ever since I was a teenager and I have experienced the negative entity earlier on in my experiences, but sometimes I can hear voices of people carrying on full conversations but I can never quite make out the words. It is always muffled. I have read a few books on this and I am guessing that there is a demensional plane that I can not cross and the voices are coming from the other side. It doesn't scare me, but always leaves me curious as to who these folks might be. I've always thought they were spirit guides or other spirits watching that I can not see yet. I would like to make contact with them and find out their names or to see if they might be relatives/friends that have already crossed over, but sometimes I feel like I am blocked from seeing who it actually is in the room with me. I know the entity in their to protect me, but I just want to meet/see him/her. I also have a very vivid dream life and sometimes see friends that have passed on letting me know that they are okay and alive and well on the other side.

I always ask for protection from God before I go to bed at night and this seems to help me. The "white light" was in the room with me the night I had the evil presence in the room with me and I could see that the evil presence was being block by the white light.

[Nyce555]

My view on this is if you are very toxic you will much more susceptible to demon posession...not if you are cleaned out..
I would likely consider this demon thing a healing crisis... lots of toxins stirred up that may interfere with your normal channels of protection.
In all healing the demoms must go, both those of chemical origin and astral origin.

This is soooo true. I had a lot going on in my personal life at the time it happend to me and a lot of negative and manipulative people in my life that were feeding off of my energy and trying to make my life a mess. Once I got rid of those people in my life, the "demons" went away too.

[Arrowwind]

[I always ask for protection from God before I go to bed at night and this seems to help me. The "white light" was in the room with me the night I had the evil presence in the room with me and I could see that the evil presence was being block by the white light.

Where light extists darkness cannot dwell

[Arrowwind]

[I always ask for protection from God before I go to bed at night and this seems to help me. The "white light" was in the room with me the night I had the evil presence in the room with me and I could see that the evil presence was being block by the white light.

sounds like you need to be clearer with your protectors.... tell them that a demon in the room is not acceptable... place a barrior of light around your whole home and property.. Carry that light within you where ever you go... Make your light brilliant and all powerful. The spirits of good intent or who are to serve your spiritual growth will not be repelled and you can manintain contact, but the others need to go.. you do not need them and they should not be near your circle of self.. Ask and you shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened

[LightningResistor]

@Arrowwind: Thanks very much, that is very helpful!

[Black Panther]

The fear draws it in.

Exactly! You can control the spirits, they don't control you. If you are afraid, they control you. Don't let them!

[majapahit]

The fear draws it in.
Exactly! You can control the spirits, they don't control you. If you are afraid, they control you. Don't let them!
Same with shark
.. have done blue water diving in shark infested waters
.. if you overcome your feeling of fear ..
.. they dont bother you (as long as you're healthy, I suppose)

when I have a feeling I am 'under investigation' of strange forces ..
.. that's the mindset I get myself in
.. and I sleep like a baby

have been using mms for a while now
.. these days, only need it when I have been into town ..
.. to rid myself of all the pathogens I picked up from being amongst them unhealthy city rats :cool:

[Seikou-Kishi]

Jake is right about the sleep paralysis, chest pressure, etc. OBE does introduce you to some pretty funky things.

It sounds like spirit invasion to me, having had gone through this my self. MMS may or may not have precipated it. How can you ever know?

The Essene's have said that in your healing all manner of demons must be cast out.

Always JIm Humble says if you have a hard time with the symptoms reduce the dosage to where you are comfortable.
Even 2 drops of mms will get most things given enough time.. Even MMS in the unactivated form will detox you.
1 drop mms = about 6 drops of the classic activated oxygen products... what Jim initially used to cure his first malaria cases.

For demon possession I will tell you what worked for me... As the demon approached and tried to enter my body my mind seemed to intuitvely know to form the vision of a blazing white cross of light in my mind. that shined down though my body... and this was on its second attempt to invade me... it cast it out and I was never bothered again.... and no, I am not a christian by any conventional stardards of the definition.


This sounds like you performed the LBRP, at least in part.

[etm567]

I took it for a few years, and it was a help. As my trouble isn't caused by germs, it didn't cure me, but it did what it should have as far as secondary infections, which were, and are, legion. But I never had any trouble like that, at all. Nothing like that.

There is one possibility. I never ever remembered my dreams, not for most of my life. But I think you maybe only dream a lot after you get the delta sleep you need. And if you aren't getting the delta, which is dreamless, you may never relax into the dreaming sleep, because your body is still struggling to get delta, which you need for your physical health. People with sleep apnea don't get enough delta, ever, and people who twitch in their sleep, and people with chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia seem also not get to get enough delta. Maybe the MMS has corrected something to the point where he is getting more good delta sleep, and is thus actually having dreams, and thus remembering them, for the first time in a long time.

Maybe that has something to do with it? Just a thought.

[wolf_rt]

Perhaps you could show your friend some simple protections:

The name of Jesus/Christ is very powerful (regardless of if you believe in it...Millions give there power to this word, and it is POWERFUL)

surround yourself and project GOLD light...

Im sure there are other simple protections that work...these are what i use if faced with these situations.

[DNA]

So, after suggesting MMS (miracle mineral solution) to a good friend of mine he decided to purchase a bottle. He said he is feeling better, doesn't feel sick at all. Let me just preface this post by saying that my friend rarely ever even remembers his dreams...

The first night his sleep improved vastly. Everything was great. For the first time in a long time he was feeling better again...

The second night, however, he started having nightmares & very vivid dreams. The third night he started having terrifying nightmares that were incredibly vivid. So much so that he woke up in the middle of the night multiple times.

He also began experiencing sleep paralysis with a pressure on his chest. He was also experiencing a "presence" in the room. He thought he saw something out of the corner of his vision, but it dissipated rather quickly.

The fourth night things started to become even more terrifying, he woke up in the middle of the night and saw a straight up demon sitting on his windowsill. He looked three times and it was still there, lasting about 5-10 seconds. He wasn't mistaking it, either. He was actually seeing a demon. It, too, dissipated.

So, what's the deal with MMS? He's going to continue taking it as he is feeling rather fine. He does not feel sick whatsoever.

Thank you for the help!

alex

I believe these things exist. I have no way of knowing for sure, but could it be that this thing was allready attached to him and some how the MMS was attacking the attachment, the cord if you will that he was experiencing as a connection to said negative astral being, and the negative results were actually the 4d critter showing up attempting to resnare or recapture the former connection.

Just thinking out loud. Kind of like an agent showing up from the matrix to resnare an escaping recently awoken pod person.

[etm567]

MMS is a solution that has saved and changed my life,after 10 yrs of PTSD/combat stress,athsma,tinitus(30yrs),athritis,2 stone muscle loss,vertigo,intense fear,uncontrollable reactions,sweats,shingles,constant flem/liquid in nose/throat,constant cough,anxiety,stress,depression,unable to comunicate without sounding like a maniac,just a few of the benefits that come when told you are mentaly inbalanced and the

Sorry, I just cut that quote off rather arbitrarily. Are you familiar with Garth Nicholson and his findings about mycoplasma infections in vets? MMS may very well have helped such an infection, and that may be why it helped you. The odd thing about Nicholson -- and it is unfortunately a long story -- he found these altered mycoplasmas in the blood of vets of the first Gulf War. And he found that the affected vets could take an antibiotic for about a year and get better. But the VA interfered, and told vets that got prescriptions filled for the doxycycline would lose their veterans' benefits.

There is a much longer story. He had to move his lab twice. He was in Texas, at Baylor, and somehow the medical school was associated with a Texas company, owned by the Bushes and their friends, like Baker, that did genetic work with microorganisms. So he found evidence (I think) that they had created this Mycoplasma fermentans incognito
and perhaps sold it to Saddam Hussein, who then may have used it on the vets. He found this because they did tests on inmates at a local prison, and guards at the prison got sick and gave the illness to their families.

Anyway, "they" -- meaning the Bush family friend machines -- went after him, and he had to leave Baylor (I think it was Baylor; it was the hospital associated with Baylor, maybe?) and move to California. But he had to move again. They tried to kill him and his wife with this illness. They wrote a book about it. It's very badly written, by a couple of scientists and no editor, but pretends the story is a novel, changes the names, and basically tells the story. The book is Project Daylily. I have it, because I was looking into the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, which I have. And that disease shares many symptoms with Gulf War Illness. But they seem not to be caused by the same thing.

It's a fascinating story. Lots of vets died, unfortunately.

[Flash]

MMS is a solution that has saved and changed my life,after 10 yrs of PTSD/combat stress,athsma,tinitus(30yrs),athritis,2 stone muscle loss,vertigo,intense fear,uncontrollable reactions,sweats,shingles,constant flem/liquid in nose/throat,constant cough,anxiety,stress,depression,unable to comunicate without sounding like a maniac,just a few of the benefits that come when told you are mentaly inbalanced and the

Sorry, I just cut that quote off rather arbitrarily. Are you familiar with Garth Nicholson and his findings about mycoplasma infections in vets? MMS may very well have helped such an infection, and that may be why it helped you. The odd thing about Nicholson -- and it is unfortunately a long story -- he found these altered mycoplasmas in the blood of vets of the first Gulf War. And he found that the affected vets could take an antibiotic for about a year and get better. But the VA interfered, and told vets that got prescriptions filled for the doxycycline would lose their veterans' benefits.

There is a much longer story. He had to move his lab twice. He was in Texas, at Baylor, and somehow the medical school was associated with a Texas company, owned by the Bushes and their friends, like Baker, that did genetic work with microorganisms. So he found evidence (I think) that they had created this Mycoplasma fermentans incognito
and perhaps sold it to Saddam Hussein, who then may have used it on the vets. He found this because they did tests on inmates at a local prison, and guards at the prison got sick and gave the illness to their families.

Anyway, "they" -- meaning the Bush family friend machines -- went after him, and he had to leave Baylor (I think it was Baylor; it was the hospital associated with Baylor, maybe?) and move to California. But he had to move again. They tried to kill him and his wife with this illness. They wrote a book about it. It's very badly written, by a couple of scientists and no editor, but pretends the story is a novel, changes the names, and basically tells the story. The book is Project Daylily. I have it, because I was looking into the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, which I have. And that disease shares many symptoms with Gulf War Illness. But they seem not to be caused by the same thing.

It's a fascinating story. Lots of vets died, unfortunately.

This is imho a very important post. In fact, both are, for all the parents having children with Autism and other neurological and/or degenerative diseases. He also have two interviews on his site that are rather instructive, the second one explaining the different virus/microbial infections found in all children with autism.

I would ass the information here to the threads on autism and mms and morgellons if you do not mind.

Thank you

ps.: I went on the Project day Lily site

http://www.projectdaylily.com/

the health site of project day lily

http://www.immed.org/

http://www.projectdaylily.com/


the interview

http://www.policestateplanning.com/project_day_lily.htm

I read everything carefully and listened to the interview, probably life saving information here. Highly recommended.