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Bill Ryan
6th April 2011, 02:08
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Hi, All:

I need a hand with a reference. I'm usually quite good at digging up things I need to find, but in this case I just can't locate it (yet).

Here's what I recall:

It's an account, published a few years ago, about three men in the US military who went AWOL after having some kind of heavy-duty precognitive experience.

What's significant about the story is that after they returned from their absence and wrote up their report for their superiors, they were debriefed under conditions of secrecy - and (most exceptionally) were not punished.

The inference is that somehow they were able to provide good intel data about possible future events which was considered to be extremely valuable. Whatever they experienced was very quickly hushed up.

Can anyone find the reference?

With many thanks - Bill

Strat
6th April 2011, 02:32
Do you have any more information? Such as the time frame when this happened, which branch (Army/Navy, etc), or anything the report described?

crosby
6th April 2011, 02:33
also, was this msm or alternative media?
warmest, corson

Belle
6th April 2011, 02:54
I remember the story you are talking about, although I thought it was more than a few years ago. Could it have been 5 -7 years ago? It was not only quickly hushed up, but the day after I read the article it was totally gone from the site on which I found it...if memory serves me correctly. I think that's why it stood out for me...here one day and gone the next.

I'll do my best to find anything I can.

Strat, I'm pretty sure I was Army.

nomadguy
6th April 2011, 02:55
interesting, ~in the least the decade could be helpful, 70s 80s 90s 2000s etc.

Bill Ryan
6th April 2011, 03:00
Could it have been 5 -7 years ago?

Yes - something like that! :)

I have a feeling they might have been in Europe - but that might easily be misleading.

Alternative media... not mainstream.

Belle
6th April 2011, 03:16
I keep thinking they were on guard duty at the time, but I'm not sure where.

Trying to get my brain in gear to remember the sites I frequented at that time and possibly with whom I may have discussed this. I do know the circumstances aroused my curiosity.

Heading to bed in a bit. I'm on the east coast of US. Will start first thing in the morning...or sooner now that my brain has suddenly gone active!

Tuza
6th April 2011, 03:20
As soon as I read the op I thought you will be lucky to find it, they tried to bury it so no one could find it. That's jmho.

Bill Ryan
6th April 2011, 03:22
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Got it. :)

http://philipcoppens.com/gulfbreeze6.html

So much for memory: It was six, not three - and the date was 1990. But I was right about Europe!

The six were military intelligence analysts, who were using a ouija board off-duty - I do remember now. They received a "message" that caused them to go AWOL - and when they returned, they were debriefed by the NSA.

It's a very interesting story - must read.

[extract below]




But what caused them to go AWOL? “Ouija board sessions.” According to Davis, the Ouija board put the six soldiers in touch with an entity that named herself Safire, and others, including those presenting themselves as the Old Testament prophet Zechariah, Mark and Timothy of New Testament, and the Blessed Virgin Mary herself.

Between December 1989 and July 1990, the Ouija-summoned spirits gave the group a series of predictions of coming world events which, Davis claims, were passed along to military authorities upon their arrest, together with the copious notes that were taken by the group during the eight Ouija sessions.

This at least suggests that the story was true and not fabricated by the group upon their arrest: they could provide documents that Ouija sessions were at the basis of their obsession to arrive in Florida.

When some of Safire’s prophecies, both minor and significant, started to come true, one stating the exact dynamics and the number of casualties of a major earthquake in Iran (292,236 deaths), it convinced the six that they were dealing with genuine trans-human encounters.

They felt that they were chosen to act as instruments of God’s will – their oath to the military “obviously” seemed to be of less importance than following the orders of God. They asked Safire how to carry out their divine mission.

Safire instructed them to flee the military, regardless of consequences, because they were needed to help lead the world through an impending cataclysm. So they did.

3optic
6th April 2011, 03:23
Here too.

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/gulfbrz6.txt


They were with the 701st Military Intelligence Brigade. Each held top secret clearances, but were allowed to walk away from their posts and were discharged without a court martial. Is this the new policy of the military?

Tuza
6th April 2011, 03:25
Military intelligence analysts using a ouija board. Mmmmh...............I can still be somewhat surprised.

cloud9
6th April 2011, 03:31
I'm very sorry to bother you all but what's AWOL?

tgn333
6th April 2011, 03:37
absent with out leave

Belle
6th April 2011, 03:38
Away without leave.

Good find Bill and 3optic, and thanks.

Didn't remember the ouija board, but Florida kept coming to mind.

cloud9
6th April 2011, 03:38
Thank you, I 've seen that before but I couldn't remember.

Icecold
6th April 2011, 03:40
the transcript of interview with Vance Davis by Alex Merklinger on Mysteries of the Mind 07-18-2003. I went looking for this interview on alex's site..

http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/archives.htm

Unfortunately....

Note: Until further notice all archives prior to October 2004 are currently unavailable.

HISTORY OF THE FUTURE

INTRODUCTION
On July 9, 1990, six U.S. military intelligence analysts form 701st Military Intelligence Brigade at Augsburg, West Germany, at that time the biggest NSA (National Security Agency) listening post in the world outside the U.S. tuned into Soviet communications, all with Top Secret security clearance, deserted their posts.
They went AWOL (Absent WithOut Leave).
This was the first, and only such case in the history of the U.S., which has attracted the media worldwide, and started severe U.S. defamation campaign.
They were: Spc. Kenneth Beason, Jefferson City, Tennessee; Spc. Vance Davis, Valley Center, Kansas; Sgt. Annette Eccleston, Hartford, Connecticut; Pfc. Michael Hueckstaedt, Farson, Wyoming, Pfc. Kris Perlock, Osceola, Wisconsin; Pfc. William Setterberg, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Beason 26, and Davis 25, were the oldest members of the group. The others ranged in age from 19 to 22.
On the right is the aerial image of 701st MI Brigade installation at Bad Aibling, some hundred kilometers to the south-east of Augsburg, near Munich in Southern Germany, that is linked to their site. This station was closed in September 2002.

http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/answers/historyofthefuture/images/badaibling701mibrigade.jpg

From there, they made their way to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where one of them bought friend's VW "hippie" wan.
The group then drove to the Pensacola suburb, Gulf Breeze, Fla, where most of them, at Curtiss Station in nearby NAS Pensacola, had done their basic training, and some of them stayed in the home of a local psychic, Anna Foster.
Five days after their escape, a broken taillight on the van resulted in a routine traffic stop, and Michael, the driver of the van, was detained by police when a computer check indicated that he was wanted for desertion by military authorities. The remaining five were later, brutally rounded up by a squad of military hunters that had a license to kill.
When captured, they were taken to Fort Benning, Georgia, and kept in solitary confinement, incommunicado, until their presence was leaked out to the press, which has driven Senators Casman and Dole to react. As all attempts on defamation have failed, this has created a mayor embarrassment to the U.S. government, it's president George Bush, and Collin Powell, then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and future U.S. President.

http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/answers/historyofthefuture/images/NAS_Pensacola.jpg


more here......
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/answers/historyofthefuture/historyofthefuture.htm

Ahkenaten
6th April 2011, 03:44
sounds like Andrej Puharich's work to me

Omni
6th April 2011, 03:54
The six were military intelligence analysts, who were using a ouija board off-duty - I do remember now. They received a "message" that caused them to go AWOL - and when they returned, they were debriefed by the NSA.

Thank you for bringing this up! Extremely interesting indeed. I'd be interested in getting ahold of what exactly was said in detail. I wonder if the source is one I am dealing with.

Bill Ryan
6th April 2011, 03:54
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I have to post Philip Coppens' account (http://philipcoppens.com/gulfbreeze6.html) - it's more than fascinating.


The Gulf Breeze Six
On July 9, 1990, six US military intelligence analysts from the 701st Military Intelligence Brigade at Augsburg, West Germany, at that time the biggest NSA (National Security Agency) listening post in the world outside the United States, deserted their posts, somehow convinced that the end of the world was nigh. It is one of the most extra-ordinary stories…


On July 20, 1990, the Northwest Florida Daily News ran “6 AWOL SOLDIERS SAY THEY AIMED TO KILL ANTICHRIST”, continuing: “Gulf Breeze - Six soldiers, reported by an unofficial military newspaper to be on a mission to kill the Antichrist, were charged Thursday with desertion from their intelligence unit in West Germany, Pentagon spokesman said.” It was a most bizarre headline and one of the most bizarre stories… ever.

Eleven days earlier, Spc. Kenneth Beason, Spc. Vance Davis, Sgt. Annette Eccleston, Pfc. Michael Hueckstaedt, Pfc. Kris Perlock and Pfc. William Setterberg went AWOL – absent without leave from the 701st Military Intelligence Brigade. The group left their station in Germany, travelled to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where they bought a van, and drove to Gulf Breeze, Florida, at the time a noted UFO hotspot. Still, it was not initially clear whether the UFO sightings in the area were linked with their desertion, if only because most of these men had done their basic training at Curtiss Station in nearby NAS (Naval Air Station) Pensacola, which meant that they were familiar with the area.

Five days after their flight, on Saturday July 14, a broken taillight on the van resulted in a routine traffic stop, and Hueckstaedt, the driver of the van, was detained by police when a computer check indicated that he was wanted for desertion. The remaining five were later rounded up and taken to Fort Benning, Georgia, where they were kept in solitary confinement, incommunicado. Their fate – a possible execution – hung in the balance, until their families leaked their predicament to the press, resulting in reactions from Senators Casman and Dole. Surprisingly enough, three weeks after their arrest, instead of being severely punished by a military tribunal, they were discharged from Fort Knox – with full honours! Following Colin Powell’s dissent to this incredible verdict – after all, they were deserters – this was withdrawn. Instead, they were reduced to the lowest rank and forfeited half a month’s pay. Since, military officials have refused to discuss the investigation.

What was going on? A Pentagon spokesman stated that the six were members of a group called “The End of the World”, but this statement was later retracted, saying that there was no such group. When the case was declassified, 1400 out of 1600 pages were withheld.

The case is intriguing – to say the least. Some believed that these people were simply mad and that the Military merely wanted to sweep everything under the carpet – both parties were already sufficiently embarrassed. Others argued that the six were the subjects of an advanced military mind control experiment. After all, wasn’t this the perfect test? Top – top top even – military security experts… wouldn’t the military want to know whether there were certain things that would make such people desert? And before finding out whether this would work on the enemy, it surely had to be tested on the own troops? In an as real as possible setting…
http://philipcoppens.com/gb6_01.jpg

Speculation was now rife. One trend had it that UFOs were at the core of the mystery. It was said that Beason was interested in UFOs and wanted to attend a UFO conference. The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) did hold its 21st annual symposium in Pensacola on July 6-8, but as the group apparently only defected on July 9, this obviously would have been the worst organised trip ever. Furthermore, who would risk their life just to attend a UFO conference?

Still, one Stan Johnson, a Morristown photographer, said in a telephone interview with the Pensacola News Journals, that he had picked up Beason and Hueckstaedt on July 6 at the McGee-Tyson Airport in Knoxville, Tennessee – three days before the official version had them desert. Either Johnson was lying, wrong on dates… or the “official story” was wrong. Though Gulf Breeze Police Chief Jerry Brown stated the soldiers did not arrive in the area until July 9, Beason was said to have spent the night of July 7 with his sister and her husband, Caroly and Charles Reed, at their home in Talbott, Tenn., according to the Knoxville News-Sentinel. So… was the true purpose of their visit to attend the UFO conference? And if so, why did the official version change the dates? At best, it did not make sense… At worse, it was incomprehensible.

http://philipcoppens.com/gb6_04.jpg

Vance Davis

A first hand account that could shed light on the story was provided in 1995, when Vince Davis published “Unbroken Promises”. The book is probably one of the most mind-boggling works ever written, irrelevant of the fact whether it is the total truth, or an “enhanced version” of it. If the mind boggles already, jaws drop when you read the Davis book.

Davis states that as a teenager, he had enrolled in Silva Mind Control courses that were held in Alex Merklinger’s school in New York, and mastered techniques of self-hypnosis through active imagination. During one of his trances, he met a green-skinned, yellow-clad alien female named Kia, who, over one night, corrected his flat-footedness. Davis said that Kia “told me that she came from a planet forty-five light years away from Earth, that had been destroyed by another race. Her race, the Kiasseions, were telepaths that were enroute to Earth to assist the Alliance in protecting the human race. They were scheduled to arrive by late 1992. The Kiasseion civilization had been reduced to five spacecraft carrying about three thousand people per ship […] Her husband had been killed, and she had taken his place as Commander of this small armada, with her two grown sons in charge of two of the remaining ships.” Kia became Vance’s guardian.

Nothing unusual so far, if at least you are familiar with what many other channelers have stated about their contacts. But Davis held the “toppest” security clearances in the country.

But what caused them to go AWOL? “Ouija board sessions.” According to Davis, the Ouija board put the six soldiers in touch with an entity that named herself Safire, and others, including those presenting themselves as the Old Testament prophet Zechariah, Mark and Timothy of New Testament, and the Blessed Virgin Mary herself.

Between December 1989 and July 1990, the Ouija-summoned spirits gave the group a series of predictions of coming world events which, Davis claims, were passed along to military authorities upon their arrest, together with the copious notes that were taken by the group during the eight Ouija sessions. This at least suggests that the story was true and not fabricated by the group upon their arrest: they could provide documents that Ouija sessions were at the basis of their obsession to arrive in Florida.
http://philipcoppens.com/gb6_02.jpg
When some of Safire’s prophecies, both minor and significant, started to come true, one stating the exact dynamics and the number of casualties of a mayor earthquake in Iran (292,236 deaths), it convinced the six that they were dealing with genuine trans-human encounters. They felt that they were chosen to act as instruments of God’s will – their oath to the military “obviously” seemed to be of less importance than following the orders of God. They asked Safire how to carry out their divine mission. Safire instructed them to flee the military, regardless of consequences, because they were needed to help lead the world through an impending cataclysm. So they did.

Davis states that in 1989, he “began to sense that the lines of demarcation between the physical world and the spiritual one were beginning to blur.” It is here that we need to introduce Beason, who was even more instrumental in the group’s flight. He believed in reincarnation and believed that he had been sacrificed to the gods in a previous life. He also believed that the US government was in cahoots with aliens and that evidence for this could actually be found in Augsburg, the NSA site where they worked. It was also Beason who knew Anna Foster, at whose house in Gulf Breeze most of the groups would later be hiding – and arrested. He was in love with her.

This explains the setting of the desertion, but not the reason. Was it true that they had come to Gulf Breeze to see UFOs? To attend a UFO conference? Davis states that Safire warned them of a coming war. Mankind was about to make an evolutionary step, which is why many alien entities were in orbit, on or under the earth – and/or in telepathic contact with the likes of him. There were two alien groups: the Alliance, the good guys, who believed in free will, and “the Others”, who were abducting people and performing medical experiments on them. Safire “confirmed” to the group that the US government was in cahoots with the aliens, as they had suspected all along.

On an eschatological level, she stated that 1998 would be the date for the false Messiah to make his appearance; the year was three times his number (666). She told them to leave Europe, as there was (in the early 1990s) going to be a US-European conflict, which would make it hard for the group to continue their learning – and would endanger the role they were told they would play during the upcoming evolutionary step. They would leave Europe asap, hide out, before beginning their new life. Their choice for a hide out fell on Gulf Breeze. Not because of UFOs, but because they knew the area and Anna lived there.

When they deserted, each left a copy of the letter dictated by the spirits, in the hope that the letter might make its way into the hands of the president – so that he would know of the dire times ahead. But despite the fact that the survival of the world was at stake, it seems that destiny still had time to have love play its game. Davis had had visions of his “Soul Mate” when he was a teenager. It is when they arrived at Anna’s house, that Davis saw his “Soul Mate”: it was Anna’s roommate, Diana, whom he recognised from the visions more than a decade before.

If the spirit world was guiding them, leading them away from harm, why were they eventually captured? “Safire had told us that Gulf Breeze would be safe until Friday. Then we would stop in Texas to pick up our stuff, and head for the mountain states to begin the rest of our lives, and prepare for what was to come.” But love made Davis and Beason stay longer, and hence they did not leave on the Friday they “should” have left. “Fate” then played its card through a defective taillight and the rest was history.

http://philipcoppens.com/gb6_05.jpg

What is at the bottom of this story? At its most basic level, it shows that certain NSA operatives were dabbling with alien-Christian eschatology – and went AWOL as a consequence. But is that all there is to it? We only have Davis’ word and his interpretation for it, but he does suggest that they may have been part of an experiment – as some observers noted at the time when their story hit the press.

First, early on, when Davis was on his way over to Ft. Meade, there was a woman on his bus who told him his name and said that “God showed me that you will help change the world.” It was a prophecy – at a time when Safire had not yet appeared on the scene and “confirm” his divine mission.

Davis also had an intriguing career. He noted that he had his initial posting in Ft. Meade, which was rare. “I had done work in psychic research back at Fort Meade, and was surprised at the seriousness with which our military approached this subject. I realized then that my fast-track to NSA was probably due to my Silva Mind Control background.” It suggests that Davis was followed – if not singled out – by the NSA early on.

Fast forward to their desertion. In the book, Davis states that “what we didn’t realize at the time was that the government had known of our plans and had an operative on the plane with us, just as Safire had told us. And they lost us when we arrived in Atlanta, just as she had assured us they would.” But the “best evidence” that they were indeed monitored is how the people at Anna’s house were arrested. Hueckstaedt swore that he did not tell the authorities where his fellow deserters were hiding out. Still, the authorities were able to quickly round them up. It suggests that someone knew where they were – and if that is indeed the case, Davis’ notion that the government knew that they were about to desert and followed them during their desertion, makes sense.

As bizarre as the story is, there is an even more bizarre twist, which seems to highlight that if all of this is true, it can’t possibly be true for all soldiers or NSA personnel. Davis claims that when he joined the NSA, he was “retrained in history”. He states: “What I learned was why history happened, who history was, why or when history was. The dates in the book are not all that accurate. Those are accepted dates not factual dates. To give an example. The founding of this country did not occur. The founding fathers were already meeting many years before the advent, the war against England, occurred. There was already a plan in place for the founding of new country. It was not just a spur because British soldiers shot someone or the stand-back. It was the series of events that happened over the period of 60 to 70 years. And they have been planning for the long time.” Such teachings seem bizarre, if only because they serve no real purpose for NSA personnel, except to provide this recruit with a conspiratorial outlook on history.
http://philipcoppens.com/gb6_03.jpg
Where it goes off the wall is what Davis was talking about next. To cut a longish story short, he was claiming that there were “buildings” at White Sands which were “not ours”, suggesting they were not human – and very old. But he then jumps onto UFOs, stating that in the 1960s, a new word was introduced for them: AVC, or Alien Visitation Craft. And listen to this: “the human race was not created, born, linked to the apes, we are survivors of a great war. The human race as we see ourselves today, even our ancient relatives, were basically put on this planet and cut-off from the rest of the Universe.” And: “We have a special gene, that cannot be copied, cannot be manipulated. They have tried. We were told that is called the Jesus gene.” We can only wonder why an NSA operative is “required” to “know” this, in the unlikelihood that any of this would be true to begin with. There is no “need to know” and as such, should not be told. Worst, if true, we have a picture in which the NSA “educates” its new recruits that we are all alien descendents, and then allows them play with the Ouija board, only to have some of them go off half across the world, in the belief that the world is about to end. Though it seems that this fate befell Davis and co., it seems unlikely this is the fate of every NSA recruit. Hopefully.

“Logic” – which does not really come into this story, but somehow needs to be applied to keep a reasonable level of sanity, I would suggest – suggests that something else was going; that this group was singled out and became the victim of an experiment, which their pre-joining interests made them predisposed towards, and which “someone” carefully remoulded to see to test out a hypothesis. If this is true, then the scenario was successful, and when the test was concluded, they were rounded up, brought in… and allowed to tell their story, so that the public disclosure of their story would serve part of the exercise as well.

Davidallany
6th April 2011, 03:57
Hello Bill, this is another on. Cheers
VlE-IFCLQFM

grwKUZn5WIY

Lord Sidious
6th April 2011, 04:13
I'm very sorry to bother you all but what's AWOL?

It is absent without leave.
I remember I did that once only.
I was being ridden by an officer and I don't have the personality to take it, so I was either going to deck him, which I threatened to do, or bugger off.
I thought about it. AWOL is less of an offense, so I did it.
I got to town and was sitting on a train, with my bike and pack, wearing cycle shorts and a Manchester United shirt, with olive green socks.
Two well built guys in suits with number 2 crewcuts got on, walked straight up to me and compared me to a mugshot they had.
''This isn't him'' one declared and they were off.
They were military police, but they didn't get me.
I got a call from them two days later telling me to go back and I wouldn't get in trouble.
I didn't.

Calz
6th April 2011, 04:53
Looks like the book is still available on amazon:


http://www.amazon.com/Unbroken-Promises-Story-Courage-Belief/dp/1887266003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1302065532&sr=1-1

Gone001
6th April 2011, 05:14
"I would suggest – suggests that something else was going; that this group was singled out and became the victim of an experiment, which their pre-joining interests made them predisposed towards, and which “someone” carefully remoulded to see to test out a hypothesis. If this is true, then the scenario was successful, and when the test was concluded, they were rounded up, brought in… and allowed to tell their story, so that the public disclosure of their story would serve part of the exercise as well. "

I tend to agree with the authors opinion after reading this story and the 'To whom it may concern' letter. Seems like a psi opp although I could be wrong, this is my first familiarization with the story so I'm far from an expert in my opinion haha. The military does do shady things though as we all know. I spent two years in myself.

I never went over seas or anything but I did all my training and took my trade 'infantry'. To briefly reference Lord Sidious's story, I too didn't really have the personality to do it. I've always been very anti-authoritarian and I couldn't take it too seriously. I got a formal warning once for laughing because when they got in my face and started to scream I could never keep a straight face. On top of that philosophically I changed outlooks as in 'Solving a dispute by sending men into foreign territory with weapons doesn't really morally or ethically make sense'. I figure if by the time I'm 25 and the world hasn't changed that much, I'll firefight because there is no moral or ethical dilemma when it comes to pulling people out of a burning building

Anyway when I was in the military I never really witnessed anything strange at my low level (Private) but after I left and woke up through a lot of research and some odd personal experiences I remember looking back and having one thing stick out. The weather on the infantry base's. All the base's were said to be in area's were the weather was extremely volatile. I remember one time in Alberta on a night ex it went from being a lovely sunny day to rain, to ice rain, to snow and then back to normal. This only stands out now because I could remember my superiors cracking jokes about how they could 'control the weather'. They joked that we were in some kind of dome of bad weather and they could change it to make our training harder. As most know with infantrymen you want them to be able to brave any condition and tough it out. As I said it was always as a joke in passing and it only sticks out now because of the reading on H.A.A.R.P I've done.

Anyway I know that story is kind of off topic but thought I'd share anyways. Maybe someone will find it interesting haha. Thanks for the story about these 6 men Bill and folks it was a very interesting read!

Cheers,

Aldous

jackovesk
6th April 2011, 05:57
Hello Bill, this is another on. Cheers

VlE-IFCLQFM


Great Find Davidallany...Well Done,

I recommend you ALL listen to this Coast to Coast Show (GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Parts 2 - 12) with Art Bell with ex-NSA Analyst Vance Davis and Richard C. Hoagland to delve a little 'Deeper Down Into The Rabbit Hole' as to..?

How & When the 'SECRET GOVT.' (Govt. within the Govt.) :spy: in the US started, How it still functions today, How the System works and Who is or/not a part of it!!!

:bump:

PS - Bill it would be worth your while to listen to it aswell it Connects..The..Dots brilliantly and gives you a better understanding as to what is happening 'Behind The Scenes' today.

It's a timely reminder Bill and shows your 'Intuition' with your initial post and what may be uncovered with your Research Request, was right on Target!

Darla Ken Pearce
6th April 2011, 07:03
These guys were worth a fortune to the military ~ this all ties into work done by Joseph Farrell. Great story! xoxox

Ilie Pandia
6th April 2011, 09:18
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Got it. :)

http://philipcoppens.com/gulfbreeze6.html

So much for memory: It was six, not three - and the date was 1990. But I was right about Europe!

The six were military intelligence analysts, who were using a ouija board off-duty - I do remember now. They received a "message" that caused them to go AWOL - and when they returned, they were debriefed by the NSA.

It's a very interesting story - must read.


Why is this an important story for you at this time? Something must have motivated you to dig for it! ;)

ROMANWKT
6th April 2011, 10:30
This is what I have found of great interest, I copy/pasted, What interested you??????????????????

This explains the setting of the desertion, but not the reason. Was it true that they had come to Gulf Breeze to see UFOs? To attend a UFO conference? Davis states that Safire warned them of a coming war. Mankind was about to make an evolutionary step, which is why many alien entities were in orbit, on or under the earth – and/or in telepathic contact with the likes of him. There were two alien groups: the Alliance, the good guys, who believed in free will, and “the Others”, who were abducting people and performing medical experiments on them. Safire “confirmed” to the group that the US government was in cahoots with the aliens, as they had suspected all along.


On an eschatological level, she stated that 1998 would be the date for the false Messiah to make his appearance; the year was three times his number (666).

He also believed that the US government was in cahoots with aliens and that evidence for this could actually be found in Augsburg, the NSA site where they worked.


Davis also had an intriguing career. He noted that he had his initial posting in Ft. Meade, which was rare. “I had done work in psychic research back at Fort Meade, and was surprised at the seriousness with which our military approached this subject. I realized then that my fast-track to NSA was probably due to my Silva Mind Control background.” It suggests that Davis was followed – if not singled out – by the NSA early on.

As bizarre as the story is, there is an even more bizarre twist, which seems to highlight that if all of this is true, it can’t possibly be true for all soldiers or NSA personnel. Davis claims that when he joined the NSA, he was “retrained in history”. He states: “What I learned was why history happened, who history was, why or when history was. The dates in the book are not all that accurate. Those are accepted dates not factual dates. To give an example. The founding of this country did not occur. The founding fathers were already meeting many years before the advent, the war against England, occurred. There was already a plan in place for the founding of new country. It was not just a spur because British soldiers shot someone or the stand-back. It was the series of events that happened over the period of 60 to 70 years. And they have been planning for the long time.” Such teachings seem bizarre, if only because they serve no real purpose for NSA personnel, except to provide this recruit with a conspiratorial outlook on history.

Where it goes off the wall is what Davis was talking about next. To cut a longish story short, he was claiming that there were “buildings” at White Sands which were “not ours”, suggesting they were not human – and very old. But he then jumps onto UFOs, stating that in the 1960s, a new word was introduced for them: AVC, or Alien Visitation Craft. And listen to this: “the human race was not created, born, linked to the apes, we are survivors of a great war.

The human race as we see ourselves today, even our ancient relatives, were basically put on this planet and cut-off from the rest of the Universe.” And: “We have a special gene, that cannot be copied, cannot be manipulated. They have tried. We were told that is called the Jesus gene.” We can only wonder why an NSA operative is “required” to “know” this, in the unlikelihood that any of this would be true to begin with. There is no “need to know” and as such, should not be told. Worst, if true, we have a picture in which the NSA “educates” its new recruits that we are all alien descendents, and then allows them play with the Ouija board, only to have some of them go off half across the world, in the belief that the world is about to end. Though it seems that this fate befell Davis and co., it seems unlikely this is the fate of every NSA recruit. Hopefully.

eaglespirit
6th April 2011, 12:13
But he then jumps onto UFOs, stating that in the 1960s, a new word was introduced for them: AVC, or Alien Visitation Craft. And listen to this: “the human race was not created, born, linked to the apes, we are survivors of a great war. The human race as we see ourselves today, even our ancient relatives, were basically put on this planet and cut-off from the rest of the Universe.” And: “We have a special gene, that cannot be copied, cannot be manipulated. They have tried. We were told that is called the Jesus gene.”

Just a personal note...this 'gene telling' parallels and correlates with my promptings and travels and connections(person to person and spiritual)
and personal experiences/learnings of the last four years.

Thefrenzy1978
6th April 2011, 12:19
Thanks for all this info ill be adding it to my studys.

Thanks Mike

str8thinker
6th April 2011, 13:48
GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfEeIkihOB4

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlE-IFCLQFM

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5aSZQ3SWak

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88fMHr5WmEo

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grwKUZn5WIY

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ZFqtNlnoM

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYMstLP5yqI

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MO1tOGNz9U

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dujq6v5x2gw

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsjw4UgvY54

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnku9j3Fgo

GULF BREEZE 6 Richard Hoagland/Vance Davis Sept.2 1998 Pt 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxb0Ti-ILpE

Very interesting, but as we now know, the timing of some prophecies is wrong, e.g.,


On an eschatological level, she stated that 1998 would be the date for the false Messiah to make his appearance; the year was three times his number (666). She told them to leave Europe, as there was (in the early 1990s) going to be a US-European conflict, which would make it hard for the group to continue their learning – and would endanger the role they were told they would play during the upcoming evolutionary step.

I would appreciate it if whoever posts a YouTube video series includes links to all the parts, if they exist (or else advise us which ones are missing). Searching for all the parts can be quite time-consuming. Thanks.

EYES WIDE OPEN
7th April 2011, 08:25
On the OMF Forums there is an interview with Bob Oechsler who worked for NASA and investigated the Gulf Breeze sightings in depth.
http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ufosandextraterrestrial&action=display&thread=9965&page=1

Also on the same forum is a thread where Edgar Fuche who worked on the flying triangle posts his info and has posted many documents that 100%prove he worked on these things:
http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ef
He is way more credible than lazar in my opion.

lightblue
7th April 2011, 10:39
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from waht i know, working with ouija board has a gerat potential of attracting lower astral entities - which on occasions may be devilishly accurate...i give it an eternal miss...:yu: l


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Carmody
7th April 2011, 17:12
Read 'the question of lithium' thread and this thread's thrust may make more sense.

Specifically within the idea of 'two groups'.

lightblue
11th April 2011, 19:17
carmody
Read 'the question of lithium' thread and this thread's thrust may make more sense.

Specifically within the idea of 'two groups'.

carmody, what did you mean by "two groups"? thanks l


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Atlas
15th August 2014, 21:33
In the video below, you can hear a policeman who was there at the time (start at 8:00):

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On July 23, a letter arrived at various media stations from an anonymous source claiming that if the 6 were not released that some extremely sensitive information would be released to the public. "Free the Gulf Breeze Six. We have the missing files, the box of 500+ UFO photos and the plans you want back." [...] In the end, Senator Dole, George Bush, Sr., and the Joint Chiefs of Staff all agreed that the 6 should be released with full military honors. (source (http://janetkatherinesmith.blogspot.com.au/2011/09/gulf-breeze-sightings-part-4-gulf.html))

From the Gulf Breeze SENTINEL, August 16, 1990:

"Did mysterious note influence release of Gulf Breeze Six?"

An interesting piece of the puzzle of the six army deserters who
showed up in Gulf Breeze, were arrested by the FBI, were taken to Fort
Benning and Fort Knox, and then were released with General Discharges,
has here-to-for not been shared with the general public.

That puzzle piece came in the form of of an unsigned typewritten
note presumbably sent to the US Army and all the major TV networks and
wire services demanding the release of "The Gulf Breeze Six."

The note was accompanied by two photographs [Ed. note: of circular
objects in the air that some people might refer to as "UFOs", which I
cannot repreoduce.] and threatened the release of "500+ photos and plans
you want back... unless they are released.."
The note ended "Answer code AUGSBB3CM"

Mark Curtis at WEAR Channel 3 first shared this intriguing note with
The Sentinel two days before the announcement that the Gulf Breeze Six
were discharged from the Army and released.
The photos shown here [Ed. note: Well...*there* anyway.] are courtesy
of Les Sinclair at WALA TV 10 and appear to be the same ones sent to WEAR.

The article concludes with an apparent photocopy of the note in question
which reads, in its' entirety:


ABC, NBC, CBS, AP, UPI

U.S. Army:
Free the Gulf Breeze Six.
We have the missing plans, the box of 500+ photos and
the plans you want back.
Here is proof with close-ups cut out.
Next we send the closeups and then everything
unless they are released.

Answer code AUGSBB3CM
(Source: http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/ufo/to-be-merged/gulf-breeze-6)