Taking the piss: Your own best medicine...

[Abhaya]

For Kimberley and any one else new to this I highly highly reccomend listening to the radio show with Andrew norton webber that sauce posts in post 230. If that doesn't get you fired up to try this then nothing will. :)

[Kimberley]

For Kimberley and any one else new to this I highly highly reccomend listening to the radio show with Andrew norton webber that sauce posts in post 230. If that doesn't get you fired up to try this then nothing will. :)

Yes Abhaya and all this is a fabulous extremely fascinating and important interview.

Everyone would be well served by listening to this:

http://www.awakeradio.co.uk/podcasts/allegedly.speaking.2012-10-18.mp3

It could literally save your life!

[Kimberley]

I am going to keep bumping this because this is so important!!! Much love :grouphug:

[skamandar]

Update: ok this would normally be gross and sorry for tmi. But this is just so cool. So just prior to showering I had another idea to put the Body order to the test. So I took the day and a half sock off that I had worn with shoes and. Slept in! And gave it the old smell test and I swear it could pass as clean laundry. NO ODOR. A worn sock! For me an hour long worn sock with no odor would has been a shocker but a day old slept in sock.... Haha again sorry for tmi but this is just so cool!

Ok Abhaya, I have also something "gross" to admit:gossip:

After showering I had the idea to complete washing my hair with urine, without washing it off. I just put some rose oil to change the urine smell..

I stayed "quarantined" until my mother came back from work, and I made her smell my hair. Her feedback was - Oh, fantastic smell!!! Are you using a new shampoo?

So... my hair is very shiny and looks good now(usually it looks horrible, I have very thin hair).

Keep on experimenting! Makes me feel good to know I am not the only one with the "gross" experiments.:hug:

[wendylou]

Hi There,

This is my first post here. I have heard of this therapy it is also mentioned I believe in the bible, and also Nexus magazine has had some articles about it however from what I understand it it better if one has not been drinking the night before etc. I also saw something on You tube and the lady mentioned their that it is a good idea to mix it in with or cut it with apple juice, especially if you have had asparagus the night before as asparagus can make your urine 'smell' quite strange. Infact for many a year I could not understand why after eating salads etc the next morning my urine smelt peculiar, and then I read about how asparagus has this chemical in it that makes your urine small strange, and all these years I thought there was something wrong with me, so there you go!!!

[skamandar]

Hi There,

..from what I understand it it better if one has not been drinking the night before etc.

I drink a lot of alcohol and the only difference is that the urine is not so salty after that. According to me - It even tastes better. I also havent noticed any difference on it's healing effects.

[Connecting with Sauce]

For Kimberley and any one else new to this I highly highly reccomend listening to the radio show with Andrew norton webber that sauce posts in post 230. If that doesn't get you fired up to try this then nothing will. :)

Yes Abhaya and all this is a fabulous extremely fascinating and important interview.

Everyone would be well served by listening to this:

http://www.awakeradio.co.uk/podcasts/allegedly.speaking.2012-10-18.mp3

It could literally save your life!

Dave Murphy, Andrew Norton Webber and Myself (John Shore) will be presenting in London this Tuesday on the 20th November see the flyer below.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/breadrosespubbanner1.png

Seating for ~70 so first come first seated :)

[Debra]

Good luck CWS .. this really is a movement that can change humanity. I think I know that pub, problem is, I am in Sweden :)

Hope you get a good crowd and look forward to viewing some video of the speakers, yourself included.

Cheers, Zebra

[Abhaya]

Update: ok this would normally be gross and sorry for tmi. But this is just so cool. So just prior to showering I had another idea to put the Body order to the test. So I took the day and a half sock off that I had worn with shoes and. Slept in! And gave it the old smell test and I swear it could pass as clean laundry. NO ODOR. A worn sock! For me an hour long worn sock with no odor would has been a shocker but a day old slept in sock.... Haha again sorry for tmi but this is just so cool!

Ok Abhaya, I have also something "gross" to admit:gossip:

After showering I had the idea to complete washing my hair with urine, without washing it off. I just put some rose oil to change the urine smell..

I stayed "quarantined" until my mother came back from work, and I made her smell my hair. Her feedback was - Oh, fantastic smell!!! Are you using a new shampoo?

So... my hair is very shiny and looks good now(usually it looks horrible, I have very thin hair).

Keep on experimenting! Makes me feel good to know I am not the only one with the "gross" experiments.:hug:

That is awesome!!!

I am also experimenting with urine and my hair. I keep my hair very short, about a number two clipper setting, because it has begun to thin some. I massage urine into my scalp every night (as well as my face). I am extremely optimistic that my hair will actually begin to fill back out. As many of the testimonies including the one from Dave, in the above radio talk, gives mention, drinking the gallon per day(distilled liquids urine, distilled water, fruit juice) plus massaging urine into the scalp will actually regrow hair! This is more in the 90 day+ category of benefits. But I look forward to writing about the results In a future update :)

[Kimberley]

John I would love to be there, however I too am hoping you video tape the event. Is Dave Murphy the same Dave that did the 30 day urine fast?

skamandar I too am experimenting in several ways...skamandar did you check out the youtube video & the interview in post #230?

And I want to request that we stop using words like "gross". This is the part of the hardest part I am having with this new knowledge. I have been taught that urine is "dirty" and now finding out it is our own built in elixir of health and life.

As with any belief when you learn it was incorrect it takes time to shed and that is the hardest part for me right now...

Much love!

[gripreaper]

I have followed this thread, and read excerpts from it. I also have a friend who is doing the "drinking from your own well" and I must say, I just can't get past the mental programming. I do drink distilled water, just not from my own well! I am very interested in the Book of Aquarius and the accelerated process of taking the water from my own cistern and amplifying the process of nature, and after two years of distilling the elixirs of immortality, to take that substance.

I follow the "blog" occasionally of those who are now doing the process as outlined in the Book of Aquarius, and I intend to do it myself at some point.

But, right now, it's distilled water and MMS for me, as far as detox protocol and internal cleansing goes.

I wish the heading on the thread was changed to "Drinking Distilled Water From Your Own Well"

[Kimberley]

This thread has been here for almost 2 1/2 years... I have been a member here for almost 2 years and this subject title never caught my eye until about 3 days ago...

I think this important topic is fascinating and life saving. I too suggest a title change and my suggestion is:

The amazing benefits of distilled water from four sources: Precipitation, juices, urine, and water distiller.

The word piss is not in my vocabulary :-)

[Abhaya]

This thread has been here for almost 2 1/2 years... I have been a member here for almost 2 years and this subject title never caught my eye until about 3 days ago...

I think this important topic is fascinating and life saving. I too suggest a title change and my suggestion is:

The amazing benefits of distilled water from four sources: Precipitation, juices, urine, and water distiller.

The word piss is not in my vocabulary :-)


Agree 100%. While I am for sure not scared of the pee lol. I know a lot of people will not look into this. But the fact is you can get a lot if not most of the benefits from distilled water, that you can from urine. And people need to know they can change their lives simply by drinking distilled water. Who would be scared of that? This should get bumped and get a title change. And seriously everyone needs to listen to the radio show in post 230. As Kimberly has said the information there is mind boggling. And will change or even save your life.

[Earth Angel]

yes but Urine is free! and doesn't come in plastic bottles! ....... and once you get your head around it , it really doesn't taste bad....I just keep forgetting to do it. People are absolutely disgusted at the idea but its not as bad tasting as a shot of booze in my opinion

[Kimberley]

FYI... I just sent this privet message to John aka Connecting with Sauce:

This thread has been here for almost 2 1/2 years... I have been a member here for almost 2 years and this subject title never caught my eye until about 3 days ago...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-best-medicine...

I think this important topic is fascinating and life saving. I and gripreaper suggest a title change and we would like your feed back since you started the thread


Gripreaper suggested "Drinking Distilled Water From Your Own Well"

And I suggested "The amazing benefits of distilled water from four sources: Precipitation, juices, urine, and water distiller."

I am a journalist so I am into catching head lines and I would like to bring more people into this important knowledge and information...

Would you be ok if I asked a moderator to change the thread title?

Or even better yet would you be ok if I or you were to start another thread in the General discussion area that gets WAY MORE views than any other section. I feel so strongly that I want as many people as possible to know about "The amazing benefits of distilled water from four sources: Precipitation, juices, urine, and water distiller." That I am writing to you as I do not want to step on your toes so to speak!

Much love to you! And Thank you for all you are..

********

I would welcome other subject titles that you think would bring in more views!!!
Yes this thread has 25 thousand views although those are repeat views over 2 1/2 years...and I for one have only been to this thread a few times in the past 3 days...

Much love to us all

[Kimberley]

I am so wanting this thread to be more engaged... This is the most interesting information I have come across in years. WOWOWOW!!!

[gripreaper]

I am so wanting this thread to be more engaged... This is the most interesting information I have come across in years. WOWOWOW!!!

What we are really talking about is the Philosophers Stone, the elixir of immortality. Death is an engineered belief, and is perpetuated by a long history of limited lifetimes, which is not our natural state. In a perfect world, we would live as long as we want to, and take ascension at will.

[Kimberley]

I am so wanting this thread to be more engaged... This is the most interesting information I have come across in years. WOWOWOW!!!

What we are really talking about is the Philosophers Stone, the elixir of immortality. Death is an engineered belief, and is perpetuated by a long history of limited lifetimes, which is not our natural state. In a perfect world, we would live as long as we want to, and take ascension at will.

Yes I agree with you gripreaper! However how do we pass this information on? It is so belief system shattering beyond all beliefs I have known. And I am still only wrapping myself around this once again knowledge that has been withheld from us...

So much has been withheld from us and this knowledge of healing via Urine is mind boggling...I have been reading and listening to all of the information that is available for 4 days straight now and am blown away. And there is more that I have not gotten to yet. I also realize that when I am meant to learn/remember something it comes when it is meant to arrive.

So I am so very grateful for what I have stumbled upon in the past few days, however I now feel this urge to pass this information on to all I know... Yikes..yet again putting myself out there suggesting /saying Urine is the elixir of long life?

I know we are now at a point of evolution that I will not be institutionalized for this "knowing" however yikes this is real important information that has been manipulated and withheld from us. I am pissed (pun intended) :-)

I have a lot more to say, however I need to go to sleep now...

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

I will return with more of my discovery's/thoughts/learning's soon !!!

[Connecting with Sauce]

John I would love to be there, however I too am hoping you video tape the event. Is Dave Murphy the same Dave that did the 30 day urine fast?

skamandar I too am experimenting in several ways...skamandar did you check out the youtube video & the interview in post #230?

And I want to request that we stop using words like "gross". This is the part of the hardest part I am having with this new knowledge. I have been taught that urine is "dirty" and now finding out it is our own built in elixir of health and life.

As with any belief when you learn it was incorrect it takes time to shed and that is the hardest part for me right now...

Much love!

The very same Dave yes :)

And when "looped" multiple distilled the water of life is AMAZING... It can not really be described!

[Connecting with Sauce]

This thread has been here for almost 2 1/2 years... I have been a member here for almost 2 years and this subject title never caught my eye until about 3 days ago...

I think this important topic is fascinating and life saving. I too suggest a title change and my suggestion is:

The amazing benefits of distilled water from four sources: Precipitation, juices, urine, and water distiller.

The word piss is not in my vocabulary :-)

PISS in the UK means Urine. And also "Taking the piss" is an English phrase... It is meant to allow people to find the topic lightheartedly and get them onto the topic.

Distilled Fluids are covered elsewhere and it does NOT have anywhere the number of hits to be honest 24,000+ is pretty impressive if I do say so myself :) .. and this thread is ALL about Urine therapy and the benefits of it. I think also Andrew Norton Webber covers the topic of the "book Of Aquarius" and says it is a smoke screen for the TRUE cliquier of life... Urine therapy!

"Wake up and smell the coffee" and then tip it away ;) and fill you MUG with Urine!!! :)

[Connecting with Sauce]

I link people from other websites here and use this title where ever I post this info... if you change the title these people searching for "Taking the piss: your own perfect medicine" from posts etc will be lost...

By all means start another thread and link it to this thread or when you find INFO post it here to keep it at the top of the threads... This is what I do... This is why this has 24,000 + views and since 2009 since I have been doing UT, looping or "Homebrew" as I call it... It really doesn't matter what you call the thread title... people will discover this INFO WHEN they are ready for it... What ever you call it... Andrew, Dave and myself are trying to get the message out there... Changing the title will not make it any more accessible here... it will just break the thread... Stay on target and spread the message... There was a thread called "Distilled waters..." I don't know how many hits that has no where NEAR 24k+? Lets get this message out to there... in this time of Aquarius.

This evenings conference will be AMAZING!!! I hope to see as many of those that can make it as possible and those that can't we will be videoing it and getting this info out there!... Links will be posted here!!! When available :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/jonnoshore/breadrosespubbanner1.png

[Debra]

Piss is also used as a colloquialism for alcohol, as in the term, I am on the piss. Just this piss is so much better for you ;)

Kimberley, the word I think comes from the sound that urine makes as it comes out pissssssss .. I used to use the sound to ask my children when they were just toddling and toilet training if they wanted to pisssss?

A hangover from my mother and grandmothers generations that one L o L

I think the word is perfect Connecting W Sauce ;)

[Connecting with Sauce]

Piss is also used as a colloquialism for alcohol, as in the term, I am on the piss. Just this piss is so much better for you ;)

Kimberley, the word I think comes from the sound that urine makes as it comes out pissssssss .. I used to use the sound to ask my children when they were just toddling and toilet training if they wanted to pisssss?

A hangover from my mother and grandmothers generations that one L o L

I think the word is perfect Connecting W Sauce ;)

SO do I. I do not plan to change the title... JUST spread the knowledge...

[Abhaya]

Well you have a point there 25000 hits is pretty legit. I guess if it ain't Broke don't fix it :). I think people are just getting really excited about this ( and rightfully so). I don't think any one meant to bash your title. Thanks for all your efforts. Best of luck with the conference. I really want to go! Please keep us updated on how we can view purchase a video of the talk.

Abhaya

[Kimberley]

Thank you John and all for your support!.

Now I understand that in the UK piss is not a "bad" word it is not the preferred word in the US, for example I would never say the word piss in the radio :-) So now I understand the use of the word piss. At some point I will start a new thread and of course lead all to this thread!

reposting this interview with Lisa Harrison and Andrew Norton Webber from April 25, 2012 for those that have not seen it yet:

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And I had to post this image:

[conk]

I just had a vison of meeting a woman and eventually sleeping with her. We wake up in the morning and she catches me peeing into and drinking from a glass. B-b-b-b-b-ut, but, but, it's good for you, I say to her as she runs screaming from my house shouting, "you bastard, you kissed me with that mouth". ;)

Oh, don't change the thread title.

One more thing. Isn't the benefit more than just the structure of the urine? Aren't there compounds and substances in the urine that provide help? It seems the discussion of late is only about the structure. And so if I'm already drinking distilled water it should be even better after cycling through my body? Gotta remember to take a big cup to the shower from now on.

[grampah]

I've been drinking my urine every morning since first reading this thread and links, about 2 months ago. I'm 80 yrs old. My skin and hair very quickly softened. A neighbor lady mentioned my skin and I had not mentioned taking anything. I have had many other sort of minor improvements. I listened to the cited interview in Post 230 and as usual, despite replaying the section did not get the name correct of the filters Andrew N Weber mentioned. I googled what I thought he said and got nothing. I have looked into a countertop distiller before and got bogged down in selecting. Did anyone get those links or have others to share with me? It seems I spend most of my days searching for things on the web, sorting out all the B.S., lack of specificiations, etc for all sorts of items. I'm in California. Google brings up a laundry list, probably mostly of Chinese inferior over priced products with no support.

[Abhaya]

I've been drinking my urine every morning since first reading this thread and links, about 2 months ago. I'm 80 yrs old. My skin and hair very quickly softened. A neighbor lady mentioned my skin and I had not mentioned taking anything. I have had many other sort of minor improvements. I listened to the cited interview in Post 230 and as usual, despite replaying the section did not get the name correct of the filters Andrew N Weber mentioned. I googled what I thought he said and got nothing. I have looked into a countertop distiller before and got bogged down in selecting. Did anyone get those links or have others to share with me? It seems I spend most of my days searching for things on the web, sorting out all the B.S., lack of specificiations, etc for all sorts of items. I'm in California. Google brings up a laundry list, probably mostly of Chinese inferior over priced products with no support.

Awesome to hear! I have the counter top water distiller he reccomends. It's called the megahome distiller. It has hundreds of 5 star reviews on amazon. Including one from me. And u can get it between 150 and 200. It comes in a couple different colors but just make sure you get the megahome model :). Can't wait to hear ur results after upping the volume of distilled liquids! The gallon a day program is a whole nother level then taking just the morning urine. And as you said you were already getting great results just from the one glass in the morning.

Abhaya

[Connecting with Sauce]

I just had a vison of meeting a woman and eventually sleeping with her. We wake up in the morning and she catches me peeing into and drinking from a glass. B-b-b-b-b-ut, but, but, it's good for you, I say to her as she runs screaming from my house shouting, "you bastard, you kissed me with that mouth". ;)

I get that with my wife :D she still has not embraced this fully yet... but IS aware of how healing it is...


Oh, don't change the thread title.

No Intentions of doing that... Especially as my presentation which will be up on line WILL link people here!


One more thing. Isn't the benefit more than just the structure of the urine?
Aren't there compounds and substances in the urine that provide help?
It seems the discussion of late is only about the structure. And so if I'm already drinking distilled water it should be even better after cycling through my body? Gotta remember to take a big cup to the shower from now on.

Yes it is more than the structure. It has ORGANIC minerals within it which are an excess of the body and pure distilled water... Urine is effectively BLOOD plasma... If you cut your finger, do you suck it? You've effectively sucked "urine" minus the blood platelets...
Compounds are VERY helpful! Listen to what David Jubb has to say in the early posts of this thread. A blood specialist.
A couple of pint glasses are now used for this purpose in my house AND I have a LARGE coffee mug at work which has "Wake Up & smell the coffee" written on the side of it... It has not seen coffee just distilled fluids and herbal teas (made from distilled water of course (no green or black tea... they are high in Fluoride)

There were 40 ish people last night and the info I shared went down very well as you can tell it included:
toxins, Liver&GB flushing, HCG and how I detox and maintain my health... It included distilled water (Fluoride) and Mercury toxicity too... All topics which are essential knowledge to sort our light bodies out and get this energy body functioning well to protect the soul within from the attack going on right now...

Distilled water IS ESSENTIAL RIGHT NOW I think... We will do what we can to get the video up online asap but are not sure what the quality will be... we had some travel issues with London yesterday and I had to speak first but I was in the flow and enjoyed presenting the information...

John
ps my website will be back up and running shortly :)

[Connecting with Sauce]

I've been drinking my urine every morning since first reading this thread and links, about 2 months ago. I'm 80 yrs old. My skin and hair very quickly softened. A neighbor lady mentioned my skin and I had not mentioned taking anything. I have had many other sort of minor improvements. I listened to the cited interview in Post 230 and as usual, despite replaying the section did not get the name correct of the filters Andrew N Weber mentioned. I googled what I thought he said and got nothing. I have looked into a countertop distiller before and got bogged down in selecting. Did anyone get those links or have others to share with me? It seems I spend most of my days searching for things on the web, sorting out all the B.S., lack of specificiations, etc for all sorts of items. I'm in California. Google brings up a laundry list, probably mostly of Chinese inferior over priced products with no support.

Grampah,
If you are in the UK I can highly recommend the MegaHome AND with Mama-Pengium link here>
http://www.mama-penguin.co.uk/#/shop/4558237278/Megahome-943SBS-G-Water-Distiller/580682

ps spend the extra and avoid plastic the link above ^^

This is the one I bought for my Wife's Mum in Russia. Marcus or Josette at Mama Penguin are also the only ones to give a free TDS meter to test pre and post water with their distillers and the lowest price in the UK. They JUST want people to get well and drink >4L of DW per day and sort themselves out... Until it arrives... Start looping Grampah... Everything that comes out goes back in... everything... want better results... fast at the same time AND drink nothing or eat anything else...
This is what Dave did and he had AMAZING pro-youthing effects...

It is in my pearltree (HealingShores) under healing methods... Urine/Distilled fluids

http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-s=1_6490220&N-f=1_6490220&N-fa=6490220&N-u=1_869906&N-p=62417766

[grampah]

Thanks very much Abhaya and John CW Sauce. From a quick look, the Megahome seems to fit my needs. I live alone, no vehicle, shop via bus and order a great deal of my needs via the net. It's very time consuming but worth the effort. I started in a year or so ago researching filters and "got lost". My online search method is to bookmark all "possibles", then sort those by criterion met, then after checking delivery "promises" etc and often contacting the seller to grade their "B.S", I move the top ones to a Final Choices bookmark. Then I "sit on it a few days" and think of more questions not answered via their website. I have been known to read up to 300 reviews, where often something I would not have thought of, comes up.

[Abhaya]

Thought I would post this new testimonial from a lady just posted on Andrews Facebook page! Which one of you is going to have the next miracle story?! :)


WOW!!!!!

FANTASTIC TESTIMONIAL!!! WOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

I just completed a 40 day Distilled Waters fast to heal myself from significant degeneration of my knees secondary to osteoarthritis. I was able to obtain a 6 week medical leave of absence and on day one of my medical leave I began fasting on 1.5 gallons of distilled water and urine therapy. I am ecstatic with the results. I lost 35 pounds which was very important for my knees. My objective was to remove inorganic mineral deposits throughout my body (like years and years of arterial placque build-up, however I primarily desired to remove all the mineral deposits in all of my joints which are greatly impacted by osteoarthritis. 7 weeks ago, I had to order a seated walker to use at work in my role as a nurse consultant. Now that I have finished my 40 day Distilled Waters fast, I can walk and stand for hours with minimal pain. I am so grateful to you, Andrew Norton Webber, for guiding us with your information on this important health benefit. I also wanted you to know I had my chem panels and lipid panels drawn at 21 days and 40 days into my Distilled Waters Fast and my magnesium/phosphorus and calcium levels were always perfectly normal. This proved to me that drinking distilled waters does not leach organic minerals from our tissues. And my LDL and triglyceride levels are the best they have EVER been. I return to work in 3 days feeling much better and able to do my work without the need for a walker. This 50 something RN is very grateful for Distilled Waters Therapies! Namaste!

[Connecting with Sauce]

Thanks Abhaya, saves me posting it ;)

[Connecting with Sauce]

Another reference to urine therapy at the end :)

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[Kimberley]

Bumping this thread!!!!! Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

[Abhaya]

So has the vid from the London distilled liquids conference come out yet? :)

[Connecting with Sauce]

So has the vid from the London distilled liquids conference come out yet? :)

Unfortunately the pro-video man was ill amongst other things and although all three talks went very well (loads of great feedback especially about my talk) and the room was full (~45) we did not get clear video of my presentation worthy of distributing on the www. Andrews and Daves which were just talks 'may' be available to listen (I got ANWs in high quality mp3 audio but it is large>200MB) if you contact them via facebook or their websites. Or me via skype for ANW HQ audio.

[Abhaya]

Hey John, raw milk is it a distilled liquid? Thanks :)

[Connecting with Sauce]

Hey John, raw milk is it a distilled liquid? Thanks :)

It could well be! ...I know "straight from the cow" stuff is very healing... try and find it though that is the issue... buying a cow farm would be easier...

[Connecting with Sauce]

More Pee-ple are coming forward, which is great...

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[Earth Angel]

I am thinking of buying the megahome counter top distiller mentioned above. Can anyone tell me would I use my regular tap water (which is very hard) or the water that goes through my big under the counter filter (removing 99.9% of crap from my water?) The reason I ask is I am now buying distilled water to use for making colloidal silver, plus I am filtering all drinking/tea water which at present takes 5 gallons of water to make one gallon to drink......we pay for our water and an equal amount for sewage so if its safe to use the tap water my water bill would decrease quite a bit.......also does anyone know if the distiller is a significant electricity suck??
Our hydro bill has gone up way past our gas (heat) bill which is saying a lot when you live in Ontario and have winter for 6 months a year!!

[grampah]

I finished today reading and taking notes of the 188 Amazon reviews for the Megahome units, going back to 2005. There are calculations there on electricity usage per hour and filtering with other means before putting tap water into the unit. Generally the posters experienced cleaner water even after their water had been faucet filtered. Additional electrical usage depends of course on your rate structure, additional KWH rate, etc. I intend to purchase a unit and the electricity will be additional and not offset by not buying bottled water since I never have. The unit is a 500kwh heater so I plan to have it go on before I get up so my kitchen is warm, that may save some on my gas and electric bill running my central forced air unit. In other words I don't expect an increase in my utility bills for making several gallons a week. There are posters who have run theirs 24/7 until they store a considerable amount of water. Others post their test data. Very, very few are not happy with the unit or the company's service. It appears the company reads the reviews and comments.

[ThePythonicCow]

I finished today reading and taking notes of the 188 Amazon reviews for the Megahome units, going back to 2005. ... The unit is a 500kwh heater ...

The Megahome counter top distiller uses 580 watts (not kwh.) A 115v unit that used 500 kwh per hour would be sucking 5000 amps ... an order of magnitude larger than most entire homes are capable of providing.

It takes about 5 to 6 hours to distill one gallon. At 12 cents/kwh (average US price for electricty) running this distiller for 5 hours will cost of 580 * 5 * 12 / 1000 == 34.8 cents.

So that's about $US 0.35 per gallon give or take for most states in the US (Electricity in Hawaii is over twice the price.)

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm quite happy with my Megahome unit. I make a few gallons a week for drinking water. I already had a whole house chlorine filter, and an under the sink reverse osmosis (RO) unit, so prior to getting the Megahome, my drinking water was down from perhaps 200 parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (tds) in the municipal water to about 10 ppm from the RO unit. With one pass of the distiller, it reads 0 ppm on my inexpensive tds meter.

I then add back in sulfates (Willard water), potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) and good salt (Himalayan or Redmond pink salt) to get the tds back up to roughly 200 ppm, give or take a big bunch.

I needed the distiller to make ionic silver, or otherwise might or might not have gotten it. That needs 0 or 1 ppm tds. But as long as I have it, might as well run all my drinking water through it.

[ThePythonicCow]

I am thinking of buying the megahome counter top distiller mentioned above. Can anyone tell me would I use my regular tap water (which is very hard) or the water that goes through my big under the counter filter (removing 99.9% of crap from my water?) The reason I ask is I am now buying distilled water to use for making colloidal silver, plus I am filtering all drinking/tea water which at present takes 5 gallons of water to make one gallon to drink......
Distillers one weakness is that they do not get out all the more volatile compounds (the stuff such as chlorine that boils off at even lower temperatures than water boils.) Somewhere in your filter chain you should have a decent carbon filter to get out the volatile gases, or else they will boil off before the water, and end up being condensed back into the output distilled result.

If your under counter unit uses five gallons to make one gallon, that sounds like a reverse osmosis (RO) unit, which almost certainly has some carbon blocks (to keep any chlorine from getting to the reverse osmosis unit) in addition to the ultra-fine filtering provided by the reverse osmosis unit itself.

The Megahome comes with an itsy-bitsy carbon filter itself, as a little packet of carbon that sits inside the output snout of the Megahome. I never figured that was big enough to do a good job for long, so don't even bother putting that packet in the snout. Better not to have one more place to grow mold. Once cleaned up of all the noxious chlorine and other crap, water grows mold and fungus more easily, so I keep my drinking water in the refrigerator, and keep anything that contacts the water after the distiller a little bit extra clean.

If I did not already have a reverse osmosis (RO) unit myself (with its attendant carbon filters), or if I was worried about the cost of the water used by the RO unit, then perhaps the least expensive way to run the distiller would be to first run tap water through a water filter pitcher, such as Brita, PUR, Clear2o, Mavea, Culligan, or ZeroWater before distilling it. It's the carbon filter you need to use with a distiller, not so much the actual RO unit itself, and the carbon filters (such as in pitcher filters) don't waste any water.

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I am thinking of buying the megahome counter top distiller mentioned above. Can anyone tell me would I use my regular tap water (which is very hard) or the water that goes through my big under the counter filter (removing 99.9% of crap from my water?) The reason I ask is I am now buying distilled water to use for making colloidal silver, plus I am filtering all drinking/tea water which at present takes 5 gallons of water to make one gallon to drink......we pay for our water and an equal amount for sewage so if its safe to use the tap water my water bill would decrease quite a bit.......also does anyone know if the distiller is a significant electricity suck??
Our hydro bill has gone up way past our gas (heat) bill which is saying a lot when you live in Ontario and have winter for 6 months a year!!

I'd use the filter to fill the Distiller and then the water from the distiller will be like "double distilled" and amazing to drink AND make colloidal silver with... It will also make MUCH less sludge inside the distiller and need less cleaning...

It is ~600W and therefore 0.6 kW/hr 's per hour used... it is ~4 hours on so 4 x 0.6 = ~ 2.5 to 3 kW/hrs of leccy... find out what a kW/hr costs... Unless America uses a different unit to the rest of the world... as they aren't yet using internationally recognised SI units on everything...

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I'm quite happy with my Megahome unit. I make a few gallons a week for drinking water. I already had a whole house chlorine filter, and an under the sink reverse osmosis (RO) unit, so prior to getting the Megahome, my drinking water was down from perhaps 200 parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (tds) in the municipal water to about 10 ppm from the RO unit. With one pass of the distiller, it reads 0 ppm on my inexpensive tds meter.

I then add back in sulfates (Willard water), potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) and good salt (Himalayan or Redmond pink salt) to get the tds back up to roughly 200 ppm, give or take a big bunch.

I needed the distiller to make ionic silver, or otherwise might or might not have gotten it. That needs 0 or 1 ppm tds. But as long as I have it, might as well run all my drinking water through it.

PAul, Why add all those IN-ORGANIC minerals back in... This is EXACTLY what I used to do for 3-4 years... until I came across the Andrew Norton Webber info about INORGANIC minerals VS ORGANIC minerals... I removed IN-organic minerals from my water supply then started getting detoxification reactions which cleared in 1-2 weeks... Highly recommended Paul... Even as a trial... make sure IF you are worried about minerals you ADD organic minerals to your diet/drinks... but pure clean water is not an issue to drink at all...

http://aquariusthewaterbearer.com/the-truth/24-doctors-tell-the-truth.html

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Thanks "Kris Costa" from Facebook group on Urine therapy for ALL of the books / organisations for Urine links below..
(For those here who do FB ask me on Facebook pm if you wish to join it as info is shared there too - I'm John Shore on Facebook or www.healingshores.com is my site)

John Armstrong "The Water of Life" (1944) Dr. C.P. Mithal "Miracles of Urine Therapy" (1973) Dr. Arthur Lincoln Pauls "Shivambu Kalpa" (1978) Dr. Beatrice Bartnett "Urine Therapy: It May Save Your Life" (1994) Coen van der Kroon "Golden Fountain: Complete Guide to Urine Therapy" (1996) Martha M. Christy "Your Own Perfect Medicine" (1998) Other Resources on Urine Therapy (listed alphabetically): The Alchemy of Urine: From Witches' Brew to the Golden Elixir: A Diary Immanu-El Adiv, independent publication, Jerusalem (Israel) 1992 All India Directory on Auto Urine Therapy, by Dr. A.B. Das, Nature Cure and Yoga Research Center, Calcutta (India) 1992 Amaroli, Dr. Swami Shankardevan Saraswati, Bihar School of Yoga, Monghyr, Bihar (India) 1978 Alternate address: School of Yoga, Australia Amaroli, Dr. Soleil & Dr. C. T. Schaller, 1st edition 1989, Editions Vivez Soleil, Genève (Switzerland) 1993 Amaroli Books (www.odyssee.net/~expodome/books.htm) (list of books on urine therapy and publishers) Autotherapy by Dr. Charles Duncan, USA –1918 Auto-Urine Cure -1969 R.V Karlekar and Raghuvanshi, Shri Shree Gajanan Book Depot Prakashan Bhawani Shankar Road, Dadar, Bombay 28, India "Auto-Urine: The Nectar of Life" B.L. Nalavade, lecture at 20th World Congress of Natural Medicines, 1991 in Madras (India) Auto-urine therapy (www.hps-online.com) (extensive health information by the Medicine Man) Auto-Urine Therapy Dr. Raojibhai Manibhai Patel Bhrat Sevak Samaj Publications Pankornaka, Ahmedabad, 380 001 Auto-Urine Therapy, by "an experienced physician" (anonymous), Gala Publishers, Ahmedabad (India) 1990 Auto Urine Therapy: Science & Practice, Vaidya Pragjibhai Mohanji Rathod, Swasthvrutta Prakashan, Bhavnagar (India) 1988 Auto Urine Therapy Treatment and Cure (1978) Acharya Jagdish B Jagdish B. Publications 63-64 Mahendra Chambers 2nd Floor, Dr.D.N. Road Fort, Bombay 400 001 bay 28, India 149-"Auto-urotherapy", John R. Herman, New York State Journal of Medicine, vol. 80 no.7 June 1980, pp.1149-1154 Cancer Cures in Twelve Ways A A Cordero, Science of Nature Healing Center Asia, (Philippines) 198*

Chinese Association of Urine Therapy Correct Application of Urine Therapy (www.auto-urine.com) (web site for Chinese Association of Urine Therapy) 72, Wu Kon Lio Road, Wuku Industrial Park, Taipei Hsien, Taiwan, R.O.C. Tel=G886-2-2988446 Fax=G886-2-2996990 E-mail=GWebmaster@auto-urine.com Dossier Amaroli (French) Fondations Soleil Bois des Arts, 38 CH -125 Chène-Bourg, Genève Dossier Choc (French) Ma Découverte de la Thérapie d'Urine by Christiane Cloutier The Eating Gorilla Comes in Peace, Bubba Free John, Dawn Horse Press, San Rafael (California, USA) 1979, pp.220-224 Eigenharnbehandlung by Dr. Johann Abele -1950 Karl F. Haug Verlag, Heidelberg, Germany Get Well Naturally by Linda Clark Chapter 11 -Autotherapy -The Duncan method Arco Publications, Inc. 219 Park Ave. South New York, N.Y. 10003 The Golden Fountain: The Complete Guide To Urine Therapy by Coen van der Kroon, Amethyst Books/Gateway Books, Swallcliffe (UK) 1996 (Chapter 4 in The Golden Fountain has more references to research in other languages) Kinkerstraat 82-C, 1053 EA Amsterdam, The Netherlands, tel/fax: + 31 20 683 5510 email = cvdk@knoware.nl van der Kroon's web site, home page = urinetherapy/ Health in Your Hands, Devendra Vora, Gala Publishers, Bombay (India) 1982, pp.3, 122-123 Healing Powers, Book 3, On Biorythm and Urine Therapy by Dr. G.P. Malakhov, St. Petersburg (Russia) 1994 (so far only in Russian language) Dr. William Hitt (Urine Therapy clinics in Mexico) 1-800-800-8849 Integrated Approach of Urine Therapy (IAUT): A Long Term Prospective Study, Dr. Shashi Patil & Dr. Sarang Patil, Samyak Publications, Kolhapur 1996 The Lost Gospel of the Ages by J.C. Androgeus -1980 Life Science Institute, P.O. Box 1057 Fort Pierce, FL 33434 Making Your Own Medicine by Roy Oakes Manav Mootra, Dr. Dr.Rahojibhai Manibhai Patel, 1st edition 1963, 5th edition Lokseva Kendra Publisher, Ahmedabad (India) 1991 Miracle of Auto-Urine Therapy: The Fountain of Health and Beauty Prof. Dr. Ryoichi Nakao, Taiyo (publisher) .), Kyoto (Japan) 1991 (so far only in Japanese language)

racles of Urine Therapy, by Dr. C.P. Mithal, M.B.B.S., M.D Pankaj Publications, New Delhi (India) 1978 Reprinted 1998, available from Amazon.com Also published by: New Light Publications 202, Rattan Jyoti, 18, Rajendra Place, New Dehli 110008 The Miracles of Urine-Therapy by Dr. Beatrice Bartnett & Margie Adelman, Water of Life Institute, Hollywood, Florida 1987 Shivambu Cure Guide to Treatment and diet Dr. Paragji D. Desai, M.B.B.S. Navbharat Sahitya Mandir 162 Princess Street Bombay-400 002, India Shivambu --Urine Therapy by Dr. Nila Sanghvi phone 91-33-474-8308 address: 39 Chakraberia Rd (south) Bhowanipur, Calcutta, India 700025 (Dr. Sanghvi's e-mail: nila_sanghvi@hotmail.com (his website = www.amigo.ects.co.in/shivambu.htm) Shivambu Kalpa, Dr. Arthur L. Pauls, D.O. Ortho-Bionomy Publishing, (England) 1978 also by Life Science Institute P.O. Box 1057 Ft. Pierce, Florida 33454 Siddhargal Kanda Siruneer Maruthuvam by Dr. R. Manickavasagam, India –1980 Tibetan Buddhist Medicine and Psychiatry, The Diamond Healing, Terry Clifford, SamuelWeiser Inc., York Beach (USA) 1984 Treatise & Directory on Auto-Urine Therapy, Dr. A.B. Das, Nature Cure and Yoga Research Center, Calcutta 1996 (contains bibliography of all the Indian-language literature on urine therapy). "Urea: Its Possible Role in Auto-Urine Therapy", John Wynhausen, in Shivambu Kalpa Parishad, collected lectures, Goa (India) 1993 Urine as An Autotherapeutic Remedy, Dr. Charles. H. Duncan, 1918 Urine Therapy: www.micronauts.com/urine.html "Urine-Therapy, Drinking from Thine Own Cistern," Quique Palladino, PWA Coalition Newsline, Nr. 37, October 1988, pp.41-44 (USA) 1988 Urine-Therapy: It May Save Your Life, by Dr. Beatrice Bartnett, c/o Lifestyle Institute PO Box 4735 Ruidoso, New Mexico 88345 formerly: Water of Life Institute, Hollywood, Florida 1989 Urine Therapy: Self-healing through Intrinsic Medicine -1982 by Dr. John F. O'Quinn Life Science Institute P.O. Box 1057 Fort Pierce, Florida 33454 "Uropathy; A Sure Cure for All Diseases", S.J. Kulkarni, lecture at 20th World Congress of Natural Medicines, 1991 in Madras (India)

A Very Special Juice by Carmen Thomas (1998) (750,000 copies sold in Germany) The Water of Life, John W. Armstrong, 1st edition England 1944, Health Science Press, Saffron Walden (England) 1990 Wonders of Uropathy: Urine Therapy as a Universal Cure By Dr.G.K. Thakkar, Bombay (India) 1992 World Conference on Urine Therapy (Gersfeld, Germany, May 13-16, 1999) Other conferences on Urine Therapy Your Own Perfect Medicine: The Incredible Proven Natural Miracle Cure That Medical Science Has Never Revealed! by Martha M. Christy, Future Med, Inc., Scottsdale Arizona (USA) 1994 Click here for Martha Christy's website (www.all-natural.com/urine.htm URINE: The Fountain of Youth! ($7) with a comprehensive summary of all the latest scientific and medical research in the field of urine therapy... JESUS' DIET: for your Sins! ($10) an inspirational health book with hundreds of references from the Bible on diet, health, and fasting... To order by mail, send cash, check, or money order to: Christian Health Research Box 694 Keaau, Hawaii 96749 (808) 965-9494 toll free (888) 696-3966 click here to order by credit card comments to: AhmenHeaven@aol.com Copyright. Christian Health Research. Box 694 Keaau Hawaii 96749 For problems or questions regarding this web contact AhmenHeaven@aol.com. Last updated: April 04, 2000.

[ThePythonicCow]

I then add back in sulfates (Willard water), potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) and good salt (Himalayan or Redmond pink salt) to get the tds back up to roughly 200 ppm, give or take a big bunch.

PAul, Why add all those IN-ORGANIC minerals back in... This is EXACTLY what I used to do for 3-4 years... until I came across the Andrew Norton Webber info about INORGANIC minerals VS ORGANIC minerals... I removed IN-organic minerals from my water supply then started getting detoxification reactions which cleared in 1-2 weeks... Highly recommended Paul... Even as a trial... make sure IF you are worried about minerals you ADD organic minerals to your diet/drinks... but pure clean water is not an issue to drink at all...
Well, potassium bicarbonate is organic -- notice the carbon in the carbonate :). And anyway, the body has little trouble absorbing potassium (and sodium) in any form.

Sulfur comes in such forms as elemental sulfur, sulfides, sulfates, and various more complicated organic nutrients such as (vitamins) biotin, thiamine , (anti-oxidant) glutathione, (amino acids) methionine, cysteine, homocysteine, and taurine. My understanding is that elemental sulfur and sulfides are not of much use to the body; I take none of those. I understand that the various sulfates in Willards water are in a form that is readily absorbed and used by the body. I also take the other more complicated organic nutrients that I just listed, including substantial amounts of liposomal glutathione, but not in my drinking water.

In addition to Willards water, potassium bicarbonate and a good salt, I also include in my drinking water a few drops of "Optimally Organic Fulvic Ionic Minerals Concentrated X350" (which I did not mention above.)

So the only inorganic minerals that might be called in doubt would be the good salt (Himalayan or Redmond). My figuring is that one of the greatest deficiencies in typical diets these days are the various trace minerals -- perhaps 50 of them -- and that this one of the best ways available to me to get at least the portion of them that my body is able to extract and make use of in this inorganic form. Good salt has been a staple of healthy diets for such a long time that I rather figure it should be good for one's health.

[ThePythonicCow]

The item I add the most of (1 Tbsp per gallon) to my drinking water is the potassium bicarbonate (purchased in bulk from nuts.com.)

The following article, which I have previously referenced seven (7) times on this forum, discusses potassium bicarbonate: Diet, evolution and aging -- The pathophysiologic effects of the post-agricultural inversion of the potassium-to-sodium and base-to-chloride ratios in the human diet, by Frassetto L, Morris RC Jr, Sellmeyer DE, Todd K, Sebastian A. (pdf) (www.ionizers.org/pdf/3-scientific-articles/Diet_Evolution_and_Aging.pdf)

I recommend the article (now I've mentioned it eight (8) times :)).

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I then add back in sulfates (Willard water), potassium bicarbonate (from nuts.com) and good salt (Himalayan or Redmond pink salt) to get the tds back up to roughly 200 ppm, give or take a big bunch.

PAul, Why add all those IN-ORGANIC minerals back in... This is EXACTLY what I used to do for 3-4 years... until I came across the Andrew Norton Webber info about INORGANIC minerals VS ORGANIC minerals... I removed IN-organic minerals from my water supply then started getting detoxification reactions which cleared in 1-2 weeks... Highly recommended Paul... Even as a trial... make sure IF you are worried about minerals you ADD organic minerals to your diet/drinks... but pure clean water is not an issue to drink at all...

Well, potassium bicarbonate is organic -- notice the carbon in the carbonate :). And anyway, the body has little trouble absorbing potassium (and sodium) in any form.

Sulfur comes in such forms as elemental sulfur, sulfides, sulfates, and various more complicated organic nutrients such as (vitamins) biotin, thiamine , (anti-oxidant) glutathione, (amino acids) methionine, cysteine, homocysteine, and taurine. My understanding is that elemental sulfur and sulfides are not of much use to the body; I take none of those. I understand that the various sulfates in Willards water are in a form that is readily absorbed and used by the body. I also take the other more complicated organic nutrients that I just listed, including substantial amounts of liposomal glutathione, but not in my drinking water.

In addition to Willards water, potassium bicarbonate and a good salt, I also include in my drinking water a few drops of "Optimally Organic Fulvic Ionic Minerals Concentrated X350" (which I did not mention above.)

So the only inorganic minerals that might be called in doubt would be the good salt (Himalayan or Redmond). My figuring is that one of the greatest deficiencies in typical diets these days are the various trace minerals -- perhaps 50 of them -- and that this one of the best ways available to me to get at least the portion of them that my body is able to extract and make use of in this inorganic form. Good salt has been a staple of healthy diets for such a long time that I rather figure it should be good for one's health.

I don't think carbonates are strictly 'organic chemistry' which are chains or carbons, but I will read the pdf you linked to.

I'm just stating what I did/do and got results with. I no longer add any inorganic salt to my diet... rock or sea salt (both inorganic - other than salted raw fish we have occasionally))... I do add organic fulvic minerals however and loads of raw organic stuff.

I agree about the trace minerals.. Sea water I have heard has them in, but in an inorganic form but sea vegetables will most likely be a great source of these. Absorbed through the skin is a good way to get them..

Doing urine therapy addressing a lot of the issues with distilled water which is why I'm less bothered about what I add to my water. I do vortex it still, my vortex jug does have slim spurling rings on it and crystals and magnets also :) but I add no additional minerals what so ever.
Photos of the vortexer and set up are here >
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151130679046822.428127.575931821&type=3

Ok off to read the pdf now..

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't think carbonates are strictly 'organic chemistry' which are chains or carbons
Yeah - you're likely right on that one :).

(I was stretching things a bit, using a simplified definition of "organic" that I recalled from my last Chemistry course, a long long time ago ... in which I did not get a good grade.)

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Photos of the vortexer and set up are here >
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151130679046822.428127.575931821&type=3

That facebook link does not work for me. I get a Facebook error page stating: This content is currently unavailable

[ThePythonicCow]

Absorbed through the skin is a good way to get them..
I do use transdermal magnesium chloride (an oily feeling liquid that provides the body with magnesium when applied to the skin). Perhaps I should consider adding some of my Himalayan or Redmond salt to that liquid ?

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Absorbed through the skin is a good way to get them..
I do use transdermal magnesium chloride (an oily feeling liquid that provides the body with magnesium when applied to the skin). Perhaps I should consider adding some of my Himalayan or Redmond salt to that liquid ?

Great Idea :) I use dead sea salts mixed with distilled water in an old body shop spray bottle... could add some Celtic sea salts too :) I also have some clays which I use in the bath for the same purpose (from a koi fish supplier - much cheaper ;) )

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Brain cells made from urine

http://www.nature.com/news/brain-cells-made-from-urine-1.11985

Some of the ***waste*** that humans flush away every day could become a powerful source of brain cells to study disease, and may even one day be used in therapies for neurodegenerative diseases. Scientists have found a relatively straightforward way to persuade the cells discarded in human urine to turn into valuable neurons.

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Still trying to maintain that "waste" tag to urine...

[Carmody]

Researchers devise a method for reprogramming cells in urine into neural progenitor cells

Researchers in China have developed a technique for reprogramming cells found in urine into neural progenitor cells that are capable of growing into neurons. In their paper published in Nature Methods, the team describes how they were able to reprogram kidney epithelial cells found in urine into neural progenitor cells that are suitable for use in studying neural diseases.

Read more at: http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-12-method-reprogramming-cells-urine-neural.html#jCp

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Thank you John!! Great information... I love the second one the most as it is from 2 talk show hosts in Israel~~~~with a testimonial from Anna in the USA... Great stiff!!!

And of course I love hearing from Andres also... I want to hear your talk John and Davids also!!

Much love!!!

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Thank you John!! Great information... I love the second one the most as it is from 2 talk show hosts in Israel~~~~with a testimonial from Anna in the USA... Great stiff!!!

And of course I love hearing from Andres also... I want to hear your talk John and Davids also!!

Much love!!!


I also add a few things within Andrew's talk :) as there are others that add info too... well worth the listen...

This thread also covers some of the hidden info behind urine therapy... THE ELIXIR of LIFE

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52958-The-Elixir-of-Life-though-the-Teachings-of-Santos-Bonacci

xxx ... correction I thought this video was about urine therapy... but it seems to be about 12 cell salts ... I'm watching them now and I would hazard a guess that urine therapy has all the "12 cell salts within it" just my guess... I will look into the salts .. especially the capstone 3 "I'm missing" according to the Santos presentation...
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[soleil]

In case I have not mentioned it in this thread ..Urine is the base product used to make one of the original philosopher's stone(s). It is called 'the waters of life' method.

it is also the method that was used in Solomon's temple to make the 'manna of the gods' for the other groups and monarchs that wanted to get it from Solomon. It was done with the use of the urine from thousands of horses in the underground stables.

this is what i thought this thread was about...at first. bc i read the book of aquarius which this is mentioned, and directions are included about how to make your own philosophers stone.

this UT is a bit more immediate...

i'm still reading this thread. so will post proper reply later :)

[Connecting with Sauce]

In case I have not mentioned it in this thread ..Urine is the base product used to make one of the original philosopher's stone(s). It is called 'the waters of life' method.

it is also the method that was used in Solomon's temple to make the 'manna of the gods' for the other groups and monarchs that wanted to get it from Solomon. It was done with the use of the urine from thousands of horses in the underground stables.

this is what i thought this thread was about...at first. bc i read the book of aquarius which this is mentioned, and directions are included about how to make your own philosophers stone.

this UT is a bit more immediate...

i'm still reading this thread. so will post proper reply later :)

I suggest you listen to the Andrew Norton Webber and Lisa Harrison video... He thinks the "book of aquarius" is disinfo to MISS the real "philosophers stone" ... the effects recycling or as wee call it "looping" there is a group of "us" piss takers who are having profound healing effects from looping urine (consume 100% of what comes out) and fasting... I do it even though I eat but my diet is raw vegan and minimal right now..

[Abhaya]

John I have been looping 95% of my urine. Also while eating.... I'm vegaterian but not always raw. I do a total urine fast once per week. I spend months of the year at different Hindu ashramas where they serve a lot of dairy, milk curd yogurt. And also some fried veggies. Any harm to loop while injesting these foods? I've been at this current ashrama for 3 weeks now and feel great.

Thanks
Abhaya

Oh i should mention dairy is from raw milk

[SKAWF]

hi guys,

ive not read all of this thread, even though i posted shortly after it began.

so i bought a megahome water distiller.
i got it from jdharris . com for £170 (glass jug!) the reason i got it from them, is that on the web page,
they have neglected to remove the bit that says 'lifetime moneyback guarantee' i have photo's of this.

anyways, i have noticed a 1.5% improvement in my wellbeing.
maybe because i am no longer taking on board the toxins.

i'm not doing a 4L per day flush detox though.

what i have noticed is.....

because i drink about 5 pints of tea a day, i would use the loo quite often,
and often my wee was clear.

since i got the distiller, my wee is much darker, even though i am just as regular.

is this normal?

i like to think its the impurities being removrd from my system, but i dont know.

i will say though, for anyone who hasnt got one,
if you could see and smell the gunk thats left after 4L water has been boiled off
you would probably feel sick.

also, i havnt had one headache since i got it. i would usually have one every few days.
i put it down to flouride in the water.... so far, it would seem i was right.

cheers

[Abhaya]

I think my question may have been missed in my last post :). Does any one know if there are any restrictions to looping 90% to a 100% of ur urine in regards to diet. For instance in my case I spend a lot of time at some Hindu ashramas that serve a lot of raw milk products and often some fried veggies. Thanks

Abhaya

[Kimberley]

I think my question may have been missed in my last post :). Does any one know if there are any restrictions to looping 90% to a 100% of ur urine in regards to diet. For instance in my case I spend a lot of time at some Hindu ashramas that serve a lot of raw milk products and often some fried veggies. Thanks

Abhaya


I am certainly not an expert on the topic however as far as I have learned do what feels right for you and leave the rest.

I have learned to not listen to others shoulds & should nots in all of life. So I recommend the same to others.

I am doing "my own thing" in regard to UT and having great results. I have read many books at this point and listened to hours of interviews etc...Some things feel correct for me and others do not... for example I eat meat from time to time and some "ut people" say that is very wrong... I do not agree...

I hope that helps....

Much love!

[Earth Angel]

a question for the women who are doing UT, you may want to private message me as this is kind of a personal question......how do you find it easiest to collect the urine?? my husband is having a great time, has his own bathroom and goes in and fills a glass, drinks it right away and rinses his glass......for me I find it more of a challenge to do which means I don't do it as often as I should (as in hardly ever) but I am full on distilled water now, so that's a start.

[AndyWept]

Hello fellow pee drinkers... and to those who are on the fence. Here is a great video by two very open and honest people about Urine... and a few other health tricks, Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITSzE8I30HQ

Kiss Piss

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Not sure if this is posted here or not ... More pee-ple are waking to this wonderful YOUR IN therapy...

[MorningFox]

I spent the last while reading this entire thread and then decided to take a walk. No sooner had I got round the corner to the park did I see two teenage school kids sitting on the wall. I walked past them and noticed their friend in the bushes peeing, he hadn't noticed I was there and called out to his friends...

'Oi, my piss smells like sugar puffs!!'

He turned around to see me standing there with a smile on my face and quickly turned back in embarrassment. Little did he know he just gave me a wonderful piece of synchronicity, hehe.

[soleil]

quick question - in order to make it more bearable, can one mix a bit of water with the 'stuff' in order to ingest it easier (on the taste buds)???

does this affect the result, or anything??? seriously giving this thought.

but i do want to say i had 3 huge (because of chocolate giddy yo yo chocolate - look it up :)) zits that disappeared due to a splash/wash i did in the shower. gone.

not gross, just totally clear skin!!!

[skamandar]

I think my question may have been missed in my last post :). Does any one know if there are any restrictions to looping 90% to a 100% of ur urine in regards to diet. For instance in my case I spend a lot of time at some Hindu ashramas that serve a lot of raw milk products and often some fried veggies. Thanks

Abhaya


Abhaya I started looping for about a week and I didn't change my diet (I eat meat, drink alcohol etc).
I got pimples all over my skin. I was thinking that the same thing that hapened when I started with drinking just the morning urine is happening again and I am detoxing through the skin.
Then I got lumps on the underarms lymph nodes. Very deep, big and painfull.
I fixed all this issues with compresses of clay+urine, which drew all the stuff out of my skin and underarms very quickly.
So I guess you will make your life much easier if you have good diet during looping. (I don't know that from personal experience - just guessing).

[meat suit]

ok, I am just getting into this,
I find it perfectly drinkable, and I am surprised how salty it can be, that seems to vary a lot..
now a 'looping' question, when looping, what fluid balance would you aim for? ie. if you always have a litre of excess fluid in you, would you keep peeing and drinking constantly? or would you aim to have always the right fluid balance, and therefore wee and drink as little as possible?

[conk]

Survival stories tell us that we cannot drink only urine and survive, so it seems you would want to drink lots of extra water in excess of your urine output.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Survival stories tell us that we cannot drink only urine and survive, so it seems you would want to drink lots of extra water in excess of your urine output.

Success stories tell me that many people have done up to 40 days of urine fasts and survive, so it seems maybe if you have a decent level of fluids in you, and are not worried about dehydration, that you may be able to survive longer than one would think!

[Connecting with Sauce]

Survival stories tell us that we cannot drink only urine and survive, so it seems you would want to drink lots of extra water in excess of your urine output.

Conk, Well from someone.. ME... who has looped for ~5-6 months virtually continuously 4-5 litres of mainly urine per day (some DW)... I can state... I am far from just surviving... and Dave Murphy proved he did a 30 day URINE only fast with looping (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR2MD9WOJaU)... I have not however done any long fasting for anything greater than 2 days so far... I did however have some mild detox reactions in the first week or two of >4L per day distilled fluids and this is from someone with an already clean diet AND who has done 12+ liver flushes (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-) and started them back in 2009 when I found out about them in PA1 (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16447)

When I started 4-5 litres per day and I started this with mainly urine... it was about the time I first discovered the Andrew Norton Webber / Lisa Harrison video online (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_msWtSljFQw) and as I had a distiller already as it is the best way to cleanse water from early PA1 thread here (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7340)

When I'm looping I'm producing ~1.5 pints to almost 2 pints of urine per pass... and depending on HOW full your are this can loop in ~1 hour or so... the amount you consume 100%-90% allows you to "regulate" the length of time the loop happens... to start getting the double / triple / quad distilling nature it is best to have a >1 pint passing else I think the body is dehydrated...

Happy looping..

[Earth Angel]

my husband had been doing a combination of UT and some Distilled water only for about 2 months, maybe less.....we watched the Andrew Norton Webber interview with Lisa Harrison and that same day, coincidentally ;) , my husband who had a wood sliver in the back of his hand for the past 10 months ( red bump nothing sticking out) suddenly felt his hand there there was a chunk of wood sticking out, he pulled it out and the red bump disappeared......on the Lisa Harrison interview he had just mentioned how the body would eject things like a splinter so we were totally blown away when out with friends and he feels this on his hand and realizes its this 10 month old sliver just gently popping out on its own!! He had been planning for a while to get a sterile blade and cut the skin , it didn't hurt but it was deep in the skin. We also had been juicing 2 or 3 times per day for a few weeks at the time.

[Kimberley]

quick question - in order to make it more bearable, can one mix a bit of water with the 'stuff' in order to ingest it easier (on the taste buds)???

does this affect the result, or anything??? seriously giving this thought.

but i do want to say i had 3 huge (because of chocolate giddy yo yo chocolate - look it up :)) zits that disappeared due to a splash/wash i did in the shower. gone.

not gross, just totally clear skin!!!

teradactyl,

Yes you can mix it with juice too. That is suggested by many to help you get started.

It was a huge step for me to take the first sip a couple of months back. Now I drink 16 ounces = to a pint every morning. For me the morning pee is clearest and almost sweetish like coconut water. I personally am not drinking enough fluids yet. I am working my way up to a gallon a day. I am drinking distilled water and my morning pint.

at some point I will write out all of the great results I am having and how I am getting them.

Cheers!!

[Kimberley]

ok, I am just getting into this,
I find it perfectly drinkable, and I am surprised how salty it can be, that seems to vary a lot..
now a 'looping' question, when looping, what fluid balance would you aim for? ie. if you always have a litre of excess fluid in you, would you keep peeing and drinking constantly? or would you aim to have always the right fluid balance, and therefore wee and drink as little as possible?

MS

From everything that I have read and especially what Andrew Norton Weber suggests 4 to 6 liters a day /one to one and a half gallons of distilled water depending on your weight... that can be a combination of urine, distilled water and juices... or it can be all urine.

So you ask in regard to looping which to me means drinking all of your urine the answer would be " you keep peeing and drinking constantly" to get up to the one or one and a half gallons a day. If you do not pee that much you can add distilled water and juices to you intake until you get to the point that you are peeing one to one and a half gallons each day to do a total urine loop.

I hope this answered your question.

Much love!

[13th Warrior]

quick question - in order to make it more bearable, can one mix a bit of water with the 'stuff' in order to ingest it easier (on the taste buds)???

does this affect the result, or anything??? seriously giving this thought.

but i do want to say i had 3 huge (because of chocolate giddy yo yo chocolate - look it up :)) zits that disappeared due to a splash/wash i did in the shower. gone.

not gross, just totally clear skin!!!

teradactyl,

Yes you can mix it with juice too. That is suggested by many to help you get started.

It was a huge step for me to take the first sip a couple of months back. Now I drink 16 ounces = to a pint every morning. For me the morning pee is clearest and almost sweetish like coconut water. I personally am not drinking enough fluids yet. I am working my way up to a gallon a day. I am drinking distilled water and my morning pint.

at some point I will write out all of the great results I am having and how I am getting them.

Cheers!!

FYI, sweet tasting urine is a sign of diabetes.

[Kimberley]

FYI, sweet tasting urine is a sign of diabetes.

I am aware of that and you are correct..... so I guess it would be better stated to have said like coconut water alone which is not sweet but refreshing...and that it smells sweet however is a bit salty but not as salty as urine later in the day. I do not have diabetes and expect to never have it now that I am doing UT :-)

Thank you!

[soleil]

thank you kimberley!

[floweroflife]

Hello everyone,
New to Avalon and wanted to say thank you to everyone here. This thread has changed my life. Since stating UT and distilled water treatments about a month ago I have never been better. I am working towards looping and excited when I can start. My wife has seen the improvements and jumped on board instantly, as is very excited. I can not say that there was anything wrong with me before starting but I have had a lot of mental clarity and inner strength come as a result. I could not imagine a life without both treatments. So again I say thanks for everything that everyone does.

[Kimberley]

Peeing in the pool!!! :-)

Long story short...I heard about this story for the first time today in the car on the way to my pee drinking friend Dave's house this morning on NPR.


Pool-Peeing Safe as Scientists Approve Michael Phelps’ Method of Relief

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/418984/20121228/phelps-pee-poll-lochte-swim.htm

It was a follow up to a story I did not hear until now that started in August when Michael Phelps announced that swimmers pee in the pool all the time (something that I can attest to having been a competitive swimmer myself for many years and my daughters were instructed by me at an early age (also swam/swim competitively and in the pool their whole life) that it was ok to pee in the pool if you were not able to before a race or such...

Both of the The article's are very short ....


August 6, 2012, 11:45 AM, Breaking News From Michael Phelps: ‘Everybody Pees in the Pool’

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/08/06/breaking-news-from-michael-phelps-everybody-pees-in-the-pool/


I love this!!! How fun!!!

xo

KJ

[Kimberley]

Hello everyone,
New to Avalon and wanted to say thank you to everyone here. This thread has changed my life. Since stating UT and distilled water treatments about a month ago I have never been better. I am working towards looping and excited when I can start. My wife has seen the improvements and jumped on board instantly, as is very excited. I can not say that there was anything wrong with me before starting but I have had a lot of mental clarity and inner strength come as a result. I could not imagine a life without both treatments. So again I say thanks for everything that everyone does.

Welcome to Avalon and welcome to the taking the piss crowd!! Much love! :hug:

[floweroflife]

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone. So quick question on behalf of my wife. She is curious as to what to do, if anything, during that time of the month. If to stop or continue. If you prefer to message me personally rather then post that's cool. Thank you for any help.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I read somewhere years ago that drinking your own wee after ingesting fly agaric mushrooms increases strength. Not sure how safe or true this is however!

[Connecting with Sauce]

I read somewhere years ago that drinking your own wee after ingesting fly agaric mushrooms increases strength. Not sure how safe or true this is however!

"apparently" it enables you body to deal with the toxins but allow the body to come back into balance... I have not tried it but would if my wife would let me ;) we saw a few lovely 'flys' in the Russian Wild forest this summer :)

There was a discussion where this was mentioned on Youtube...

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[Abhaya]

Hey John, so with your looping program, you are passing two pints per piss per hour. That's almost double what I'm running. How do you deal with needing to pee while sleeping. Because I often let one pee go before bed, or else I am to bothered in the night with multiple trips to the bathroom. The next day I drink distilled water to replenish. Just wondering.

[floweroflife]

Does anyone know of any effects of being able to help with epilepsy through the UT?

[Connecting with Sauce]

Hey John, so with your looping program, you are passing two pints per piss per hour. That's almost double what I'm running. How do you deal with needing to pee while sleeping. Because I often let one pee go before bed, or else I am to bothered in the night with multiple trips to the bathroom. The next day I drink distilled water to replenish. Just wondering.

The looping last week took a nose dive, due to a training course I was on... well that and some emotional clearing I did last Monday meant I'm clearing some mucus right now :)

Yes I let it pass later on, but I also find it keeps you awake till late and have done some times through the night... but plan to get into now the weekend is here...

[Connecting with Sauce]

Does anyone know of any effects of being able to help with epilepsy through the UT?

From this... > http://www.nairaland.com/296048/there-cure-seizure-epilepsy

From a nutritional point of view, a Ketogenic Diet has been show to help Epilepsy sufferers reduce the number of seizure they have. Basically, its a high fat, medium protein, low carb diet.
It works by stimulating the body to produce "ketones", and induces "ketosis" in the body. The effects of ketosis are similar to the metabolic effect of starvation - as there are very low carbs in the diet. The ketones in the bloodstream then serve, through a very little understood mechanism, to reduce the number of seizures.
The diet was first developed in the early 1900s, and has been successfully used for the treatment of seizures.

I'd investigate coconut keytones... > http://www.coconutketones.com/scireferences.html

Urine therapy is mentioned in that link above also... I'd do both to be honest and get hydrated and investigate as healthier food as possible.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Another site with details on Urine Therapy... Your IN therapy ...

http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/healing-with-urine-therapy.html

[skamandar]

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone. So quick question on behalf of my wife. She is curious as to what to do, if anything, during that time of the month. If to stop or continue. If you prefer to message me personally rather then post that's cool. Thank you for any help.

Hi flower of life. I was asking myself the same question for some time. Than I just tried it. The taste is not good but the UT works as usual. I didn't notice differences other than the taste. So now I mix it with juice during "that time".

This is from the last link that Connecting with Sauce recommended:


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Can a woman drink her urine during her menses?
Yes, and although the urethra and the vagina are two separate organs, there is nothing in the menstrual fluid that can harm a person if it is accidentally mixed with urine.

[floweroflife]

Thank you for the help everyone.

[Connecting with Sauce]

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[soleil]

ive been doing this monday to friday about 1-2 fingers worth of my own stuff at least once to twice per day. and off on weekends. ive noticed a general smooth/softness to my skin on my face, and hands and pretty much all dry skin is gone. (awesome!) but i am STILL VERY TIRED at the end of my days and very drained and so lethargic. what is my next step for boosting my energy.

i'll be honest, i dont have a juicer, i dont have a distiller and im a newb who's been drinking my stuff since jan. whats my next step, is this an energy thing? do i have a hitchhiker? i have no clue, but man am i tired every night, by 9pm IF THAT.
help. :) thanks in advance!

[sheme]

Are you a veggie? Remember Co Q10 energy release. Iron -egg yolks spinach watercress . Vit B complex -yeast derivatives. potassium- Bananas. Vitamin D -sunshine. You could just be depressed, change your thought patterns- smile at every one you can. and hit the vitamin B complex. Oh and don't forget the fish oils.

Just off to take my own advice!:rapture:

[Earth Angel]

Could your iron levels be low ?? try lots of dark leafy greens, Kale in particular should help. You can get distilled water very cheap at Shoppers and try adding that to your diet


ive been doing this monday to friday about 1-2 fingers worth of my own stuff at least once to twice per day. and off on weekends. ive noticed a general smooth/softness to my skin on my face, and hands and pretty much all dry skin is gone. (awesome!) but i am STILL VERY TIRED at the end of my days and very drained and so lethargic. what is my next step for boosting my energy.

i'll be honest, i dont have a juicer, i dont have a distiller and im a newb who's been drinking my stuff since jan. whats my next step, is this an energy thing? do i have a hitchhiker? i have no clue, but man am i tired every night, by 9pm IF THAT.
help. :) thanks in advance!

[soleil]

Are you a veggie? Remember Co Q10 energy release. Iron -egg yolks spinach watercress . Vit B complex -yeast derivatives. potassium- Bananas. Vitamin D -sunshine. You could just be depressed, change your thought patterns- smile at every one you can. and hit the vitamin B complex. Oh and don't forget the fish oils.

Just off to take my own advice!:rapture:

i may as well be considered a veggie. my family eats organic/non gmo foods, and probably consumes meat maybe once per week, organic grass fed beef or wild free range chicken from our local farmers etc. i really want to get on top of this lethargy once and for all. :) do you have a recommendation as to what time of the day to take these vitamins or supplements? i'd love to hear if there is any herbal or natural tincture or remedy i can do, or grow and make that can help me too. :)

[edit] ooh and i suffer from anemia, and take iron in morning. if i forget i am even more of a creature. :(

[Connecting with Sauce]

ive been doing this monday to friday about 1-2 fingers worth of my own stuff at least once to twice per day. and off on weekends. ive noticed a general smooth/softness to my skin on my face, and hands and pretty much all dry skin is gone. (awesome!) but i am STILL VERY TIRED at the end of my days and very drained and so lethargic. what is my next step for boosting my energy.

i'll be honest, i dont have a juicer, i dont have a distiller and im a newb who's been drinking my stuff since jan. whats my next step, is this an energy thing? do i have a hitchhiker? i have no clue, but man am i tired every night, by 9pm IF THAT.
help. :) thanks in advance!

I'd increase the finger level and get the fluid flow going through your body.. loop it a bit more.. ie put what comes out back in.. this really gets magical and cleansing when >4 litres per day of distilled fluids are reached... Urine/rain/fresh juice/distilled water.


Btw you do have a distiller... It is internal... Getting hydrated and then looping (recycling your urine will sort you out..) if anything you may actually be "wired" and unable to sleep in the evenijg...

[RunningDeer]

New Video by Andrew Norton Webber, of Distilled Waters - The Waters Of Life
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Published on Mar 24, 2013

Distilled Waters with Andrew Norton Webber on 5D Media Network recorded on March 20, 2013


The Waters Of Life

"Independent researcher and founder of AquariusTheWaterbearer.com, Andrew Norton Webber presents the original cleaning and maintenance instructions for the human body. He demonstrates how the four 'distilled waters' (machine-made distilled water, all precipitation [rain, mist, snow, dew and fog], urine, and all raw fruit and vegetable juices) clean the body. He also shines light on the dis-information campaign designed to obfuscate the truth regarding this knowledge.



Andrew is not a doctor, he is giving his opinion based upon his independent research.

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Where You Can Find Him:


http://www.aquariusthewaterbearer.com
http://www.andrewnortonwebber.com
http://www.suzyscarborough.com
http://www.facebook.com/andrew.n.webber


email:

contact@andrewnortonwebber.com

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecolle...

http://criticalmassradio.co.uk/

[Kimberley]

Urine the Holy water (by harald W Tietze)

Published on Mar 23, 2013

interview about the international best seller book written by Harald, how it all began


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Cure for Brest cancer by Martin J Lara

Published on Mar 1, 2013

From the High in demand book Uropathy Writer Martin J Lara tells of his testimonial of breast cancer by using urine injections, this amazing story of how one woman overcome all odds to cure her cancer.


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[RunningDeer]

Urine the Holy water (by harald W Tietze)

Published on Mar 23, 2013

interview about the international best seller book written by Harald, how it all began


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Cure for Brest cancer by Martin J Lara

Published on Mar 1, 2013

From the High in demand book Uropathy Writer Martin J Lara tells of his testimonial of breast cancer by using urine injections, this amazing story of how one woman overcome all odds to cure her cancer.


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Thanks Kimberley. It was the late 1950's, when I had a bad case of poison sumack. I was playing grocery store with the berries. My eight year old head looked like a basketball. My eyes were almost completely shut. Our old farmer neighbor told my Dad to use my urine as a remedy. I didn't. I post this to demonstrate that some have known it for at least that long.

[Kimberley]

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I Drink MY PEE Song

Published on Mar 10, 2013

What a song written about drinking Pee ... too catchy ... for all those drinkers out there.
written and played by original artist


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[Connecting with Sauce]

More info on UT aka Urine Therapy...

Video in the News: Human Urine—Elixir for Good Health? (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/1121_051121_urine_video.html)

on the national geographic channel :)

[Earth Angel]

I have a friend who has just started 5 weeks/25 days of radiation , after a double mastectomy (BRCA 1 which we all now know thanks to Angelina!!) .....another friend recently went through the same thing and ended up with 3rd degree burns......I suggested urine to her but the look of shock and horror was enough.....at that point it was an open burn and she was no way in hell going to put 'dirty urine' on her wounds......my other friend has just begun so the skin is still in tact, I wonder if anyone knows about using it for burns, I thought perhaps if she put it on each day after the radiation treatment it would counter the burning effects of the treatment.....any thoughts? I have searched but not found much online about using it for this

[Abhaya]

Problem resolved

[Abhaya]

New urine therapy testimonial piece!:. So I have been doing urine therapy for almost 2 years now and looping for almost one year. Just noticed a rather cool and surprising change. My limbal ring around my iris has come back from the dead. The other day I just noticed in the mirror that there is a new rather thick dark ring around my iris. At first I thought maybe this is a bad sign or something. I had no idea what it was so I googled it and the Limbal ring is in fact a sign of great health. It is very prominent when we are babies and fades as we age, probably due to all the toxins slowly polluting us. Apparently All the cosmetic contact lenses include a fake Limbal ring enhancer because of the youthful look it gives your eyes/face. Also I tried to find any cases of people's limbals rings coming back from natural causes and found none. Pretty cool!

[Connecting with Sauce]

New urine therapy testimonial piece!:. So I have been doing urine therapy for almost 2 years now and looping for almost one year. Just noticed a rather cool and surprising change. My limbal ring around my iris has come back from the dead. The other day I just noticed in the mirror that there is a new rather thick dark ring around my iris. At first I thought maybe this is a bad sign or something. I had no idea what it was so I googled it and the Limbal ring is in fact a sign of great health. It is very prominent when we are babies and fades as we age, probably due to all the toxins slowly polluting us. Apparently All the cosmetic contact lenses include a fake Limbal ring enhancer because of the youthful look it gives your eyes/face. Also I tried to find any cases of people's limbals rings coming back from natural causes and found none. Pretty cool!

Cool, keep us in the loop :)

[Shannow]

I read an article in Nexus years and years ago about your body's perfect medicine, and it piqued my interest...quickly became part of my arsenal.

I'm not a fan of regimes, as man has never lived in a static stable environment, there's always seasons, surplusses and deficiencies...and that's what makes us healthy, not 14.3 picagrammes of xyz taken daily.

Let my body decide when and how much, e.g. most days I don't have viramin C. Some days 4 grammes.

Urine...usually about this time of year (end of winter), it just feels natural to grab a half glass mid stream in the morning. Summer seems to be about double that, of a late evening....a few days/weeks on, and a few days weeks off.

[Connecting with Sauce]

This thread rightly needs a bump up to the top of the modalities...

[Marren]

I have been drinking distilled water for about a year now and the effects have been amazing. I feel much healthier now and my energy is a lot higher. I usually get some colds a year but I havent even been CLOSE too feeling sick since i started. The acke i think almost everyone feels today in the joints has also completely dissaperared. Kinda feels like im floating around. It's wonderful! I also recommend it for people with acne, seems to be just about the only thing that really helps. Don't forget to supplement with Himalaya Salt though, this is important.

[Connecting with Sauce]

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[Connecting with Sauce]

Some great links here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?feature=edit_ok&list=PLYEOvpWV5TtU_Uqr2dTTg3iHg3u_JLf8u

1st one here:

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[Connecting with Sauce]

I have been drinking distilled water for about a year now and the effects have been amazing. I feel much healthier now and my energy is a lot higher. I usually get some colds a year but I havent even been CLOSE too feeling sick since i started. The acke i think almost everyone feels today in the joints has also completely dissaperared. Kinda feels like im floating around. It's wonderful! I also recommend it for people with acne, seems to be just about the only thing that really helps. Don't forget to supplement with Himalaya Salt though, this is important.

Marren,

Don't supplement with in-organic salt, this includes Himalayan salt... the body doesn't process them too well... You are clogging the body.

Try just drinking urine what this thread is all about... AND do a fresh juice to get organic minerals into the body or eat raw organic veggies or fruit.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

So, if its now illegal to catch rainwater ( distilled) for consumption in some parts of the US, that would be part of the big conspiracy to keep you as sick and dependable as possible?


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[sigma6]

wow,

didn't realize you could keep adding to this, but I just checked out this last page and this is fantastic...
thanks... I'm a believer... I do think that there has to be a mental transition that has to take place first
before people can do the physical act... i.e. for example, reading the information over and over again (until you could pass a test if you had to... ;)

I think it is difficult for most people, because it is evidence or proof or how weak our control over our own minds really is, especially if you still can't overcome the fear repulsion, after you are educated and aware of the available information. There will still be an emotional component because your lifetime of memories of past information is summated into emotional experiences. And this is a real factor, this is where mind (in this case reason, logic, knowledge) must be used to overpower body (emotion, fear, dread, etc) this is where one 'perception' (a false one) is overpowering another 'perception' (new information)

Only repetition and focused intent will help you here I'm afraid...

I don't think anyone who has read all the information can argue against it truthfully and honestly. I remember a lot of misperceptions that I had to 'deal with' before I could move forward, such as perceiving it as waste, when it was in fact an overflow byproduct of blood serum.

That it is CAN pass germs, (if you let it sit, it would still be ideal for external use) But that it is in fact sterile when it comes out of your body.

There are others but those are the two biggest misperceptions hidden away from the mainstream (excuse the pun) that I hear repeatedly.

I like how Tar-zen took the video and corrected the mistakes made in it... good for him...

Also part of they process is the feedback, both your body getting feedback to all it systems and organs, and you yourself consciously. You will know when you are taking too much salt for example, and although repeated drinking you can filter that out through the feces (you will purge) it would be just as simple (and natural) to consume less salt... and simple things like that... it doesn't have to be complicated...

Peace

[Connecting with Sauce]

This thread really should be sticky'ed. Free health care on tap for everyone who discovers it. 45,000 views is pretty good. Almost doubled in the last year alone... keep spreading the amazing information team...

[Connecting with Sauce]

Some additional information to add to this urine therapy post

Thank you "Percival Lock" from Facebook

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[Connecting with Sauce]

Nature knows best... Thank you "Renæ Sunspirit" for these links...

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[floweroflife]

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[floweroflife]

Can anyone recommend a great ut lotion recipie?

[Connecting with Sauce]

Can anyone recommend a great ut lotion recipie?

Neat :)

There is a YouTube sharer called Jordan Blaikie and he create a group called uropaths.. he ferments and collects the sediment from aged urine which has mono atomic elements in it.. says it is a wonderful face renewed! I have a few pots fermenting in my greenhouse ..

[WhiteFeather]

What is UT lotion? And Its always good to see you posting C.W.S ;)

[Connecting with Sauce]

What is UT lotion? And Its always good to see you posting C.W.S ;)

Thanks whitefeather ...

I'll try and find the uropaths YT link.. I also do UT neat and fresh up the nose Neti channels with a ceramic netipot.

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In my book marks...

Must add that to my "Pearltree" too.. healingshores.

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https://www.youtube.com/user/UROPATHY

[Connecting with Sauce]

Holy cow!

We Drink Cow Urine: http://youtu.be/tkOsgXHUGs0

[ThePythonicCow]

Holy cow!
Yes ? :).

I had an insight a few days ago, as to why drinking urine might be so healthy.

It's likely a good source of well structured, well mineralized, water.

(Unfortunately, it probably has more of the particular minerals the body decided it had too much of, and less of the minerals the body was short of, as well as some soluble toxins the body was trying to get rid of.)

But properly structured water is precious, and if no better source is available, urine beats absence.

Other ways to structure water seem to involve water flowing through a magnetic field, water in a vortex in a magnetic field, or water spinning it around a tuned crystal. Adding certain sounds, such as some music or shamanistic drums improves the result. Some people (such as here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVL6tfGhr8M)) are working wonders with the water flowing into their greenhouses and gardens just by putting magnets around the water pipe, in certain (unclear to me which) configurations.

See further the work of such researchers as Gerald Pollack, Marcel Vogel, Dan Nelson, Johann Grander, and Mu Shik Jhon.

Structured water is vital. Urine is a far better source of structured water than bottled water in the store, or municipal water from the tap, or even most ground water that hasn't "aged" long since it was last rain (or that came too close to some fracking operation.)

Here's one of many good presentations on this:bq0vAqAIReI

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Hmm ... looking back up this thread, it may be that my "insight" is over a year behind the times :). Oh well.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Doesn't sound like you've tried it yet Paul... :) pony up on structured distilled water .. what I drink.. then fast on Urine and loop it and use your inner distiller (kidney's) / water structure device (body) and you will be amazed at the effects.. On facebook there is a secret group which has over 600 members who do distilled water and Urine therapy.. Anyone who does Facebook and Urine therapy pm me and I can link you to it.

People are curing uncureable stuff with this therapy alone and a clean and healthy diet...

Looping urine (putting everything back in that comes out) with clean raw live food is magic..

Andrew Norton Webber's info is pretty profound (especially on urine therapy).. I go one further and prefer to structure my externally distilled water with a living water vortex jug, crystals and slim spurling rings.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Another article on the golden liquid of life...

http://www.salon.com/1999/06/07/urine/

[Connecting with Sauce]

Some more urine therapy resources...

Gary Ward Tape 1 Track 1 and 2:

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He's says that doctors who actually opening promote this and are not discouraged.. die! At approx. 28 mins in..

There are another 5hrs on this YT channel enjoy!

[Connecting with Sauce]

A bump and addition to the urine therapy thread...

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[MorningFox]

Don't forget to supplement with Himalaya Salt though, this is important.

Most himalayan salt is high in fluoride. Make sure you know where it's from and that the ingredients are labelled. No point in distilling your water and then adding a load of fluoride back in.

Just put a few slices of lemon in there, or considering we are in the urine thread.... some urine would do the job of remineralising it.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I have been drinking distilled water for about a year now and the effects have been amazing. I feel much healthier now and my energy is a lot higher. I usually get some colds a year but I havent even been CLOSE too feeling sick since i started. The acke i think almost everyone feels today in the joints has also completely dissaperared. Kinda feels like im floating around. It's wonderful! I also recommend it for people with acne, seems to be just about the only thing that really helps. Don't forget to supplement with Himalaya Salt though, this is important.

Why distill water or use you own inner distiller if you're going to put dead rock salt back in?

Please check out "Andrew Norton Webber's information and research" below and the profound healing effects people on "distilled water(s)" can have.

Salts>
http://aquariusthewaterbearer.com/poisonous-salt/

Doctors on distilled waters>
http://aquariusthewaterbearer.com/doctors-and-experts/

http://aquariusthewaterbearer.com

[Connecting with Sauce]

Those in the UK especially in the SouthWest may be interested in this next weekend. I will be doing a talk on Sunday and a netipot demo :)


http://www.thewatersoflifegathering.org/

[Pris]

I'm quite new to Avalon and happy to have found this thread!

I too am a distilled water drinker. Andrew Norton Webber got me started on that. Not only do I make it myself with a distiller, I also perform Urine Therapy.

I started UT first and it's been about two years since I started. Internally, I use the first pee of the morning (up to two cups), and I also use it on my face/upper body/arms and rinse my eyes. Aged urine is also great on my skin and in my hair (eliminates dryness and gives my hair body and shine). I seem to be in much better health than I can remember (I've got a few years under my belt!). I rarely ever get colds and if I do, they usually only last a day or two (I do top up with lemon juice when I feel something coming on and that seems to help).

I think it's important to mention here that I am a vegan (I also avoid processed foods, alcohol, coffee, pop, junk food, white sugar, fructose, MSG, GMOs, Canola oil etc) -- that alone has improved my health. It also makes the urine (for UT) so much more palatable.

Right now I'm just in the process of moving/settling in so I need to get back into my regular UT routine. I've become quite fond of my routine and hate having it interrupted.

Also, I've been drinking 'regular' distilled water for about a year and a half. I'd been drinking a gallon a day of machine-made distilled water for several months. I've had a six-month interruption where I didn't drink as much as I would have liked. But, now, I'm back to getting that routine started again. It really makes me feel great, plumps up my skin, and stops my joints from cracking! I also know that drinking extra (distilled) water prevents 'charlie horses' from occurring during sleep at night.

As a side note, I also try to avoid salt in my diet as much as I can although I admit I am still quite addicted to condiments. I do not use plain salt or sea salt anymore. It's quite the eye-opener learning about the difference between organic and inorganic minerals (and what happens to them in the body)... and how all that relates to the topic of distilled water.

To sum up, I do what I can to get naturally occurring vitamins and organic minerals from the food I eat and top that off with distilled waters.

[Abhaya]

Been doing ut without break since spring 2011 and a gallon a day distilled/urine, since oct 2012. I have not been sick once since that day in 2011. I saw my best friend cure a brutal out break of eczema while we were living on a farm in a rural area of Costa Rica. He was desperate enough to try anything and we were both blown away when it worked 10 times as fast as the prescription steroids he normally would have to take for such a voilent outbreak. I signed up for life after that. I think andrew norton webber deserves more attention on this forum my self. Thanks sauce as always for this awesome thread.

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

Hi everyone.. I'm new here, but not knew to the types of things discussed on this site. Anyways, I stumbled across here doing research on Turpentine and found my self in this thread. I had only heard of it some time back and knew nothing of it, but I had an awareness that it wasn't the right time to research it. Then it popped back up recently after asking the Divine for guidance. The first time I was like, "nope.. not yet." then it showed up again a day or two later and I was basically like, "okay fine." Hahaha. Anyways, this thread is incredible. I thought maybe I would document my journey with it for anyone curious.

Day 1: I took my first sip. I took a bit of a pep talk. It wasn't great. lol. I have been vegan for 6 years. I only eat organic. No gluten. Nothing artificial, etc. Lots of Himalayan salt in my diet. So yeah... not pleasant. I held my nose and took a sip. My intention was to just do that sip that day. For some reason, even though I was totally repulsed by the flavor and had to hold my nose to get it down, I felt this urge to do it again. I did it quite a few more times that day. I noticed after the first time taking it (in under an hour.. maybe 30 minutes, give or take) I felt this calm come over me. I have experienced a lot of anxiety throughout my life. It didn't eliminate it all but it was probably a good 80%+ was gone. I also had more energy, but I didn't feel wired. I did have a hard time falling asleep that night (just like every night). Totally comfortable in my stomach. Causes no discomfort. I also don't feel as much of a draw towards food.

Day 2: I drank 90%-95% of what I made that day. I think I was probably only at 1.5-2 quarts though. Nothing much. I felt even better. By the evening the flavor was starting to mellow but I was still keeping my nose held while I chugged it.

Day 3: Looped at least 95%. Did a full gallon. By the end of the day I no longer needed to hold my nose. It was light and the flavor started taking on almost a soft buttery flavor.

Day 4: Looped over a gallon. Took in a total of 1.5 gallons, plus a few pieces of water rich fruits. I take a photo of my iris (iridology) to compare it to an earlier picture I took. I noticed all sorts of healing taking place. Lesions I've had for as long as I've been taking these pictures (obviously we can assume they have been there for longer and didn't just show up the day I did the pictures) which has been for years are mending and my biggest one (liver) is almost healed completely. I'm blown away. I just started and in just a few days have made more progress with my health (based on the iridology) than I made the entire year I was a raw food vegan.. and I can assure you I made some incredible leaps and bounds in my health during that time. Used some in a few enimas... WARNING GROSSNESS AHEAD... this expelled some seriously foul smelling junk, and mucous. I'm not kidding.. it was very toxic. I do coffee enemas on the regular and I usually only get the really foul stuff when I've been retaining for over an hour .. that's actual retention time. Not total time. Total time can be as long as 4 hours+ during intensive enemas. I'd most gotten all that toxic junk out... or so I thought. A few minutes of the urine enema.... lol.. I was wrong. I got these random acute pains in my right shin and ankle. Shooting pain and then gone.. then a short time later it would happen again.

Day 5: Looped most of it again. Also took another urine enema. Got more nasty smelling mucousy junk out. I took in about a 1.5 gallons again. A weird red and bumpy rash appears on my right shin where I am periodically having those shooting pains. The rash turns sort of painful and itchy by the night. I get one of these bumps to the left of my belly button. Just one. The skin on my face is softening. I've been putting urine on it every day since I started. I started putting it on my body a day or two ago. The areas that have had urine on them are firming up and becoming more soft. I really feel like I've done some reverse aging already. I wasn't looking old by any means. In fact people typically mistake me as being in my early 20's but even still I noticed some major improvements. My eye color has lightened a bit and my teeth have whitened a least a couple shades. I now swish it in my mouth like mouthwash. Not hard at all since my urine tastes pleasant now. Oh, I did eat some garlic.. yeah... that made it taste less than awesome, but still not as bad as the first couple days doing the UT. Started a jar for making aged urine. I just used that little bit at the front of the pee go into the jar since I wouldn't be drinking it anyway. Oh, also my weight has gone from 118-115 since I started.

Day 6 will be starting once I wake up this afternoon. If I forget anything I'll just add it. I plan to start doing a fast on Thursday (which will be day 7 for me).. looping and supplementing with fresh juices.

As a side note: I don't know if its just my body getting adjusted or what, but I have to drink a tall glass of water and eat a couple pieces of fruit to keep my water levels high enough to pee that much each day. I don't know if my body is eliminating a lot through sweat or if consuming some carbs is making my body hold some of the water making it unavailable for looping, but yeah.. I loop all through the night too and for some reason when I wake up I'm only making 3/4 of a cup whereas when going the night before I'm producing about 1-1/3 cups.

[Pris]

Hi everyone.. I'm new here, but not knew to the types of things discussed on this site. Anyways, I stumbled across here doing research on Turpentine and found my self in this thread. I had only heard of it some time back and knew nothing of it, but I had an awareness that it wasn't the right time to research it. Then it popped back up recently after asking the Divine for guidance. The first time I was like, "nope.. not yet." then it showed up again a day or two later and I was basically like, "okay fine." Hahaha. Anyways, this thread is incredible. I thought maybe I would document my journey with it for anyone curious.

Day 1: I took my first sip. I took a bit of a pep talk. It wasn't great. lol. I have been vegan for 6 years. I only eat organic. No gluten. Nothing artificial, etc. Lots of Himalayan salt in my diet. So yeah... not pleasant. I held my nose and took a sip. My intention was to just do that sip that day. For some reason, even though I was totally repulsed by the flavor and had to hold my nose to get it down, I felt this urge to do it again. I did it quite a few more times that day. I noticed after the first time taking it (in under an hour.. maybe 30 minutes, give or take) I felt this calm come over me. I have experienced a lot of anxiety throughout my life. It didn't eliminate it all but it was probably a good 80%+ was gone. I also had more energy, but I didn't feel wired. I did have a hard time falling asleep that night (just like every night). Totally comfortable in my stomach. Causes no discomfort. I also don't feel as much of a draw towards food.

Day 2: I drank 90%-95% of what I made that day. I think I was probably only at 1.5-2 quarts though. Nothing much. I felt even better. By the evening the flavor was starting to mellow but I was still keeping my nose held while I chugged it.

Day 3: Looped at least 95%. Did a full gallon. By the end of the day I no longer needed to hold my nose. It was light and the flavor started taking on almost a soft buttery flavor.

Day 4: Looped over a gallon. Took in a total of 1.5 gallons, plus a few pieces of water rich fruits. I take a photo of my iris (iridology) to compare it to an earlier picture I took. I noticed all sorts of healing taking place. Lesions I've had for as long as I've been taking these pictures (obviously we can assume they have been there for longer and didn't just show up the day I did the pictures) which has been for years are mending and my biggest one (liver) is almost healed completely. I'm blown away. I just started and in just a few days have made more progress with my health (based on the iridology) than I made the entire year I was a raw food vegan.. and I can assure you I made some incredible leaps and bounds in my health during that time. Used some in a few enimas... WARNING GROSSNESS AHEAD... this expelled some seriously foul smelling junk, and mucous. I'm not kidding.. it was very toxic. I do coffee enemas on the regular and I usually only get the really foul stuff when I've been retaining for over an hour .. that's actual retention time. Not total time. Total time can be as long as 4 hours+ during intensive enemas. I'd most gotten all that toxic junk out... or so I thought. A few minutes of the urine enema.... lol.. I was wrong. I got these random acute pains in my right shin and ankle. Shooting pain and then gone.. then a short time later it would happen again.

Day 5: Looped most of it again. Also took another urine enema. Got more nasty smelling mucousy junk out. I took in about a 1.5 gallons again. A weird red and bumpy rash appears on my right shin where I am periodically having those shooting pains. The rash turns sort of painful and itchy by the night. I get one of these bumps to the left of my belly button. Just one. The skin on my face is softening. I've been putting urine on it every day since I started. I started putting it on my body a day or two ago. The areas that have had urine on them are firming up and becoming more soft. I really feel like I've done some reverse aging already. I wasn't looking old by any means. In fact people typically mistake me as being in my early 20's but even still I noticed some major improvements. My eye color has lightened a bit and my teeth have whitened a least a couple shades. I now swish it in my mouth like mouthwash. Not hard at all since my urine tastes pleasant now. Oh, I did eat some garlic.. yeah... that made it taste less than awesome, but still not as bad as the first couple days doing the UT. Started a jar for making aged urine. I just used that little bit at the front of the pee go into the jar since I wouldn't be drinking it anyway. Oh, also my weight has gone from 118-115 since I started.

Day 6 will be starting once I wake up this afternoon. If I forget anything I'll just add it. I plan to start doing a fast on Thursday (which will be day 7 for me).. looping and supplementing with fresh juices.

As a side note: I don't know if its just my body getting adjusted or what, but I have to drink a tall glass of water and eat a couple pieces of fruit to keep my water levels high enough to pee that much each day. I don't know if my body is eliminating a lot through sweat or if consuming some carbs is making my body hold some of the water making it unavailable for looping, but yeah.. I loop all through the night too and for some reason when I wake up I'm only making 3/4 of a cup whereas when going the night before I'm producing about 1-1/3 cups.

Whoa! You just jumped right in, eh? Hahaha awesome! :biggrin1:

I guess you're not too concerned about having a 'healing crisis'. Normally, people are encouraged to start out with a 'wee' bit and build up tolerance to the urine over a period of time (let alone doing urine enemas!). It can be quite rough on the system at first. Nope -- you're not concerned lol! ;)

You're new here, too! That's quite an intense amount of personal sharing here. I'm quite new here as well, and frankly, I think you are very courageous!

If there's anything I can suggest is to at least cut back on your Himalayan salt. There's a thread here where the subject of salt has come up if you are interested:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73347-The-Raw-Food-Thread-

Mine is not one of the more popular opinions out there lol, but you've got to ask why.

Anyways, I don't really know what else to add at the moment... except, way to go!

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

Hey there. No I'm not concerned with a healing crisis. I am following my bodies instructions and it's telling me to drink. I trust my body. I also know how to cleanse my liver if I sense it's getting a bit overwhelmed. I was just talking about how my diet was previous to this thread coming into my life. I read this entire thread and stopped all inorganic salt intake. Celery is a great source of organic salts if someone feels the need to use it.

That said, yeah.. I guess I did jump right in here. I tend to be that way. I think I also don't find talking about health in detail as anything taboo. I think the more detailed we can get the more we can educate ourselves and others. Plus I love when people take me step by step through their journey. I thought I might offer the same to others. I actually did my first coffee enema at the age of 9 so I guess you could say I've never much shied away from doing "taboo" things in the pursuit of my health. I think that may have desensitized me from taking on social norms with this sort of thing. hahahaha.. I don't know. :)

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

updated progress.. moved it to the end. Didn't want to take up a bunch of space by having it multiple times.

[Pris]

Day 6: About to go to bed for the day.. ended up looping aprox 2 gallons. Today has been fine for me. This weird rash pushing out of my shin is a bit sensitive and itchy. I did put some fresh urine on it, as well as iodine and I can't say it has noticeably improved it. Possibly because it's pushing it out, not an outbreak of anything (?). I also had one of those bumps show up next to my belly button. Also, I have been using iodine to remove some moles off my back. They are almost gone but I decided to run a little test with them. I had two larger moles.. not the flat kind but the raised kind that I'm releasing. With one of them I decided to put a cotton ball soaked in urine on it.. then I held it in place with a band-aid. It was on there while I slept and for a few hours before. When I woke up and took it off the mole was almost totally gone. The other bigger one that I didn't put the urine cotton ball on is still making progress, but it only improved about a 1/3-1/4 as much as the urine treated one. Pretty cool. My husband is only on day 3. I don't want to go into too much detail because its his to share and I didn't ask him if he minds, however he is experiencing some really cool psychic developments which neither of us were expecting so early on. I have just done my first "bath" with it. There is no scent. Oh, weird thing happened... my white gold wedding and engagement ring tarnished from contact with the urine. I did some research and I guess its some of the other metals they blend gold with tarnishing. Maybe from the acids? Another interesting thing that happened. I have some RO water here. I grabbed a glass of it earlier.. took a sip of the water and nearly spit it out. It tasted heavy and gross.. bitter comparatively. I was completely surprised. I feel like this is turning into a therapy of perpetual pleasant surprise. hahaha

p.s. I'm new here so if I'm doing this wrong by quoting my old message and adding onto it just point me in the direction of how to fix it. Maybe I should just keep editing this same post each day to add to it? Let me know.

Thanks for continuing to share your experience! Yes, indeeily weedily. Urine is cool stuff. :cool:

We're in the middle of getting a leak fixed so our bathroom and kitchen are torn out. Even though we're able to share a bathroom with people upstairs, it's convenient for me to just mostly loop my urine lol. I've noticed feeling better and looking better right away. Although it's been quite rough on my system (intestines), I think it's worth it. ;)

If you don't want to quote your entire old message (because of length), you can edit the message to just include the most recent part.

There's the 'Sandbox' -- a practice thread -- where you can play around (add pictures/videos etc.) to figure this kind of stuff out:

http://projectavalon.net/r/Sandbox.php

And, if you want to show your appreciation of others' comments, by all means do so by 'thanking' them (give a thumbs up!). I know it gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling inside (giving and receiving). :hug:

[Pris]

Hey there. No I'm not concerned with a healing crisis. I am following my bodies instructions and it's telling me to drink. I trust my body. I also know how to cleanse my liver if I sense it's getting a bit overwhelmed. I was just talking about how my diet was previous to this thread coming into my life. I read this entire thread and stopped all inorganic salt intake. Celery is a great source of organic salts if someone feels the need to use it.

That said, yeah.. I guess I did jump right in here. I tend to be that way. I think I also don't find talking about health in detail as anything taboo. I think the more detailed we can get the more we can educate ourselves and others. Plus I love when people take me step by step through their journey. I thought I might offer the same to others. I actually did my first coffee enema at the age of 9 so I guess you could say I've never much shied away from doing "taboo" things in the pursuit of my health. I think that may have desensitized me from taking on social norms with this sort of thing. hahahaha.. I don't know. :)

A coffee enema at the age of 9?! Yikes!! :blink: Lol!!

You're right. Talking about health in super-duper detail should not be taboo. Still, it's so personal. I commend you. :hail:

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

yep.. 9 years old. I had the flu and felt terrible so I did a coffee enema and felt much better. I grew up in a household where my parents did coffee enemas all the time, so it wasn't a foreign concept to me. I feel really fortunate that I grew up with an appreciation for nature, herbs, and real healing. I didn't have a lot of deprogramming to do to get into natural approaches like I know so many have. Urine however, I had some programming about that, and I still have moments where I'm like, "WTF?! Really? This is crazy!" but I know its not crazy. The cover up that has taken place is crazy! :)
I have a feeling we will be saving on our water bill with the major lack of toilet flushing taking place. hahahahahaha

[Pris]

yep.. 9 years old. I had the flu and felt terrible so I did a coffee enema and felt much better. I grew up in a household where my parents did coffee enemas all the time, so it wasn't a foreign concept to me. I feel really fortunate that I grew up with an appreciation for nature, herbs, and real healing. I didn't have a lot of deprogramming to do to get into natural approaches like I know so many have. Urine however, I had some programming about that, and I still have moments where I'm like, "WTF?! Really? This is crazy!" but I know its not crazy. The cover up that has taken place is crazy! :)
I have a feeling we will be saving on our water bill with the major lack of toilet flushing taking place. hahahahahaha

Wow, you've been very fortunate to grow up in a family such as yours.

Yes! I too had to do some deprogramming on myself. But, I've never been afraid to try out new things... once I'm convinced (doesn't take much lol!).

I no longer get that "WTF?!" feeling when I drink my pee hehe! It took a few months, but now it's no biggie.

And, absolutely, you will be saving a lot of water from lack of toilet flushing! :becky:

[Connecting with Sauce]

Hi everyone.. I'm new here, but not knew to the types of things discussed on this site. Anyways, I stumbled across here doing research on Turpentine and found my self in this thread. I had only heard of it some time back and knew nothing of it, but I had an awareness that it wasn't the right time to research it. Then it popped back up recently after asking the Divine for guidance. The first time I was like, "nope.. not yet." then it showed up again a day or two later and I was basically like, "okay fine." Hahaha. Anyways, this thread is incredible. I thought maybe I would document my journey with it for anyone curious.

Day 1: I took my first sip. I took a bit of a pep talk. It wasn't great. lol. I have been vegan for 6 years. I only eat organic. No gluten. Nothing artificial, etc. Lots of Himalayan salt in my diet. So yeah... not pleasant. I held my nose and took a sip. My intention was to just do that sip that day. For some reason, even though I was totally repulsed by the flavor and had to hold my nose to get it down, I felt this urge to do it again. I did it quite a few more times that day. I noticed after the first time taking it (in under an hour.. maybe 30 minutes, give or take) I felt this calm come over me. I have experienced a lot of anxiety throughout my life. It didn't eliminate it all but it was probably a good 80%+ was gone. I also had more energy, but I didn't feel wired. I did have a hard time falling asleep that night (just like every night). Totally comfortable in my stomach. Causes no discomfort. I also don't feel as much of a draw towards food.

Day 2: I drank 90%-95% of what I made that day. I think I was probably only at 1.5-2 quarts though. Nothing much. I felt even better. By the evening the flavor was starting to mellow but I was still keeping my nose held while I chugged it.

Day 3: Looped at least 95%. Did a full gallon. By the end of the day I no longer needed to hold my nose. It was light and the flavor started taking on almost a soft buttery flavor.

Day 4: Looped over a gallon. Took in a total of 1.5 gallons, plus a few pieces of water rich fruits. I take a photo of my iris (iridology) to compare it to an earlier picture I took. I noticed all sorts of healing taking place. Lesions I've had for as long as I've been taking these pictures (obviously we can assume they have been there for longer and didn't just show up the day I did the pictures) which has been for years are mending and my biggest one (liver) is almost healed completely. I'm blown away. I just started and in just a few days have made more progress with my health (based on the iridology) than I made the entire year I was a raw food vegan.. and I can assure you I made some incredible leaps and bounds in my health during that time. Used some in a few enimas... WARNING GROSSNESS AHEAD... this expelled some seriously foul smelling junk, and mucous. I'm not kidding.. it was very toxic. I do coffee enemas on the regular and I usually only get the really foul stuff when I've been retaining for over an hour .. that's actual retention time. Not total time. Total time can be as long as 4 hours+ during intensive enemas. I'd most gotten all that toxic junk out... or so I thought. A few minutes of the urine enema.... lol.. I was wrong. I got these random acute pains in my right shin and ankle. Shooting pain and then gone.. then a short time later it would happen again.

Day 5: Looped most of it again. Also took another urine enema. Got more nasty smelling mucousy junk out. I took in about a 1.5 gallons again. A weird red and bumpy rash appears on my right shin where I am periodically having those shooting pains. The rash turns sort of painful and itchy by the night. I get one of these bumps to the left of my belly button. Just one. The skin on my face is softening. I've been putting urine on it every day since I started. I started putting it on my body a day or two ago. The areas that have had urine on them are firming up and becoming more soft. I really feel like I've done some reverse aging already. I wasn't looking old by any means. In fact people typically mistake me as being in my early 20's but even still I noticed some major improvements. My eye color has lightened a bit and my teeth have whitened a least a couple shades. I now swish it in my mouth like mouthwash. Not hard at all since my urine tastes pleasant now. Oh, I did eat some garlic.. yeah... that made it taste less than awesome, but still not as bad as the first couple days doing the UT. Started a jar for making aged urine. I just used that little bit at the front of the pee go into the jar since I wouldn't be drinking it anyway. Oh, also my weight has gone from 118-115 since I started.

Day 6 will be starting once I wake up this afternoon. If I forget anything I'll just add it. I plan to start doing a fast on Thursday (which will be day 7 for me).. looping and supplementing with fresh juices.

As a side note: I don't know if its just my body getting adjusted or what, but I have to drink a tall glass of water and eat a couple pieces of fruit to keep my water levels high enough to pee that much each day. I don't know if my body is eliminating a lot through sweat or if consuming some carbs is making my body hold some of the water making it unavailable for looping, but yeah.. I loop all through the night too and for some reason when I wake up I'm only making 3/4 of a cup whereas when going the night before I'm producing about 1-1/3 cups.


Wow.. yes. That sounds about right for looping ! .. so powerful! Was looping yesterday.. loop most days.. the salty taste however on day one, was due to salt! You'll drop that if you loop, realising it isn't necessary... Great blog. Keep it up :)

PS ... A netipot (ceramic) filling with fresh urine is a really good thing... Especially to clear old white residue! Also from my experiences and feedback urine looping strengthens the energy bodies from psychic attack!

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

[QUOTE=SomeGirlOnTheInternet;864151]

......

Day 1: I took my first sip. I took a bit of a pep talk. It wasn't great. lol. I have been vegan for 6 years. I only eat organic. No gluten. Nothing artificial, etc. Lots of Himalayan salt in my diet. So yeah... not pleasant. I held my nose and took a sip. My intention was to just do that sip that day. For some reason, even though I was totally repulsed by the flavor and had to hold my nose to get it down, I felt this urge to do it again. I did it quite a few more times that day. I noticed after the first time taking it (in under an hour.. maybe 30 minutes, give or take) I felt this calm come over me. I have experienced a lot of anxiety throughout my life. It didn't eliminate it all but it was probably a good 80%+ was gone. I also had more energy, but I didn't feel wired. I did have a hard time falling asleep that night (just like every night). Totally comfortable in my stomach. Causes no discomfort. I also don't feel as much of a draw towards food.

Day 2: I drank 90%-95% of what I made that day. I think I was probably only at 1.5-2 quarts though. Nothing much. I felt even better. By the evening the flavor was starting to mellow but I was still keeping my nose held while I chugged it.

Day 3: Looped at least 95%. Did a full gallon. By the end of the day I no longer needed to hold my nose. It was light and the flavor started taking on almost a soft buttery flavor.

Day 4: Looped over a gallon. Took in a total of 1.5 gallons, plus a few pieces of water rich fruits. I take a photo of my iris (iridology) to compare it to an earlier picture I took. I noticed all sorts of healing taking place. Lesions I've had for as long as I've been taking these pictures (obviously we can assume they have been there for longer and didn't just show up the day I did the pictures) which has been for years are mending and my biggest one (liver) is almost healed completely. I'm blown away. I just started and in just a few days have made more progress with my health (based on the iridology) than I made the entire year I was a raw food vegan.. and I can assure you I made some incredible leaps and bounds in my health during that time. Used some in a few enimas... WARNING GROSSNESS AHEAD... this expelled some seriously foul smelling junk, and mucous. I'm not kidding.. it was very toxic. I do coffee enemas on the regular and I usually only get the really foul stuff when I've been retaining for over an hour .. that's actual retention time. Not total time. Total time can be as long as 4 hours+ during intensive enemas. I'd most gotten all that toxic junk out... or so I thought. A few minutes of the urine enema.... lol.. I was wrong. I got these random acute pains in my right shin and ankle. Shooting pain and then gone.. then a short time later it would happen again.

Day 5: Looped most of it again. Also took another urine enema. Got more nasty smelling mucousy junk out. I took in about a 1.5 gallons again. A weird red and bumpy rash appears on my right shin where I am periodically having those shooting pains. The rash turns sort of painful and itchy by the night. I get one of these bumps to the left of my belly button. Just one. The skin on my face is softening. I've been putting urine on it every day since I started. I started putting it on my body a day or two ago. The areas that have had urine on them are firming up and becoming more soft. I really feel like I've done some reverse aging already. I wasn't looking old by any means. In fact people typically mistake me as being in my early 20's but even still I noticed some major improvements. My eye color has lightened a bit and my teeth have whitened a least a couple shades. I now swish it in my mouth like mouthwash. Not hard at all since my urine tastes pleasant now. Oh, I did eat some garlic.. yeah... that made it taste less than awesome, but still not as bad as the first couple days doing the UT. Started a jar for making aged urine. I just used that little bit at the front of the pee go into the jar since I wouldn't be drinking it anyway. Oh, also my weight has gone from 118-115 since I started.

Day 6: About to go to bed for the day.. ended up looping aprox 2 gallons. Today has been fine for me. This weird rash pushing out of my shin is a bit sensitive and itchy. I did put some fresh urine on it, as well as iodine and I can't say it has noticeably improved it. Possibly because it's pushing it out, not an outbreak of anything (?). I also had one of those bumps show up next to my belly button. Also, I have been using iodine to remove some moles off my back. They are almost gone but I decided to run a little test with them. I had two larger moles.. not the flat kind but the raised kind that I'm releasing. With one of them I decided to put a cotton ball soaked in urine on it.. then I held it in place with a band-aid. It was on there while I slept and for a few hours before. When I woke up and took it off the mole was almost totally gone. The other bigger one that I didn't put the urine cotton ball on is still making progress, but it only improved about a 1/3-1/4 as much as the urine treated one. Pretty cool. My husband is only on day 3. I don't want to go into too much detail because its his to share and I didn't ask him if he minds, however he is experiencing some really cool psychic developments which neither of us were expecting so early on. I have just done my first "bath" with it. There is no scent. Oh, weird thing happened... my white gold wedding and engagement ring tarnished from contact with the urine. I did some research and I guess its some of the other metals they blend gold with tarnishing. Maybe from the acids? Another interesting thing that happened. I have some RO water here. I grabbed a glass of it earlier.. took a sip of the water and nearly spit it out. It tasted heavy and gross.. bitter comparatively. I was completely surprised. I feel like this is turning into a therapy of perpetual pleasant surprise. hahaha

Day 7: Looped aprox 2 gallons. Pretty uneventful. Started my distilled waters fast (I'm fine with eating water rich foods.. I ate a small watermelon, for instance). Rash on shin... feels not so great. I'm so happy its leaving my body. I had a weird ammonia smell in my nostrils for a brief period. My body wasn't putting off the scent and it wasn't coming out of my lungs.. it was like it was in my sinuses and it burned. This has happened to me before over the years, but its been pretty rare anymore. I read it can be as a result of candida dying off. I can see that. Oddly enough it went away once I looped some more. Just made that connection. Several hours before that I had the taste of a white drug I wont name, and my throat was all numb feeling too.. it felt and tasted like I had just done it. I haven't done it in probably 10 years. That was really odd. I used the restroom (#2) several times today, and could tell they were directly caused by the looping. That's all I can think of for now. If I recall anything I may have forgotten I'll update it. Interesting tingling sensations in the bone of the right shin directly under the weird blister/rash looking things.

Day 8: I drank 22 cups (A gallon is 16 cups). I watched the progression of the rash on my shin. By night time it had turned purple.. like a bruise. Still some itching with it. I did a coffee enema to help unburden my liver from all the cleansing. Around 40-ish minutes of retention time my liver dumped a massive load of toxic bile. Really loud and for those of you who are familiar with enemas.. you know what it feels like when your liver releases a toxic load.. haha.. it can be intense. Got out some weird stuff and candida. Anyways, I had 2 raw soaked brazil nuts at night. I felt drawn to it, so I did it. Starting to think about going on a raw cleanse instead of a fast and then taking it from there based on how I'm feeling. (I don't know if I will do a full raw food type thing. When I was a raw foodist previously I ate a lot of nuts and dried fruits in addition to the produce.. I feel more drawn to the produce at this point). I still like the bulk of my intake to be the waters though.

Day 9: Looped 1.5 gallons. In the mornings when I drink my first go I can feel it make its way through my intestines. It feels like it just falls straight down making no stops, and I can watch my stomach moving as its going through. Not too much to report. Feeling more positive each day. Shin rash is still very present. Purplish-red in color. Had some kombucha... made things very very bitter. Probably will be laying off that for a while unless its just a Tablespoon or so at a time. Not sure that I really need it that much anymore.

Day 10: Looped over 1.5 gallons. Weighed myself when I woke up.. Down from 118 to 113.4. My skin is really looking nice (especially after applying aged urine). For those interested I just have a jar in my bathroom that has it in there. I apply it with a cotton ball.. rub it in (or let it dry if I forget), and the next time I use the restroom I wash it off with fresh stuff. I was very sleepy today. Me and the Mr. sleep most of the day into the evening (not totally abnormal for me to be awake weird hours but I slept much longer than usual (12ish hours). I didn't feel bad, just sleepy. The rash on my shin is still present. Looks like the little blistered bits are doing something.. like either they are going to open up, or go away. I don't know. I'll keep you posted.

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

Thanks CWS,

I actually quit salt on the first day. I suppose my original post was a bit confusing, but I mentioned that's why it tasted so gross. I used to use a ton of salt too, so yeah.. it was intense. hahahaha.. anyways, thanks for the advice on the neti pot.. I've been thinking about making on. I have cupped my hand and snorted it all the way back and let it come out of my mouth.. I do that with each nostril. It's the method I grew up doing (only with salt water). I wonder if it has some benefits to pull it all the way back and clear out the whole sinus area and back of the throat. I hadn't thought about that. Either way, I have this feeling its going to work amazing so maybe I shouldn't get so hung up splitting hairs. If a neti pot is superior to the "snorting" method I've used I am definitely interested to hear more. Always open to improving! Anyways, you guys are great. Thanks for the support on my journey! Much love.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Thanks CWS,

I actually quit salt on the first day. I suppose my original post was a bit confusing, but I mentioned that's why it tasted so gross. I used to use a ton of salt too, so yeah.. it was intense. hahahaha.. anyways, thanks for the advice on the neti pot.. I've been thinking about making on. I have cupped my hand and snorted it all the way back and let it come out of my mouth.. I do that with each nostril. It's the method I grew up doing (only with salt water). I wonder if it has some benefits to pull it all the way back and clear out the whole sinus area and back of the throat. I hadn't thought about that. Either way, I have this feeling its going to work amazing so maybe I shouldn't get so hung up splitting hairs. If a neti pot is superior to the "snorting" method I've used I am definitely interested to hear more. Always open to improving! Anyways, you guys are great. Thanks for the support on my journey! Much love.

I have a ceramic netipot ~7-8 from ebay. I also do it through the back of the throat and upside down too to get to the forehead area (upside down with the netipot upside down) :) and it really does SHIFT some mucus... so I am sure it would help! A small teapot may also work if the spout can be added to the nostrel without it leaking everywhere.

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A nice funny URINE THERAPY clip from Sandra on Facebook... Thank you!

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Urine Therapy with Dr David Jubb

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And a few shows worth re-posting from www.oneradionetwork.com on urine therapy and distilled waters...

http://oneradionetwork.com/dr-david-jubb/dr-david-jubb-live-thursday-morning-9-am-central/

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/coen-van-der-kroon-ayurvedic-medicine-and-urine-therapy-september-27-2011/

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/andrew-norton-webber-pure-water-distilled-water-exactly-thing-lighting-every-human-distilled-water-march-11-2014/

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

Thanks for that CWS. I am definitely going to make a netipot now. You've convinced me! lol. I've got enough porcelain around here for it. Anyways, I'm about to watch that second post you made.

edited to add a question.. I thought those links under the video you posted were part of your signature.. they I realized they are related to the thread. I was wondering if the links you posted ones that have already been in this thread? I totally forgot to mention I have read every comment and watched every video, clicked every link, listened to every interview that has been in this thread. I also read everything on EarthClinic and while I've liked that site, I feel it really lacked the understanding and knowledge that we have over here. There is so much amazing information in this thread alone. So grateful I found it!

[Connecting with Sauce]

Thanks for that CWS. I am definitely going to make a netipot now. You've convinced me! lol. I've got enough porcelain around here for it. Anyways, I'm about to watch that second post you made.

edited to add a question.. I thought those links under the video you posted were part of your signature.. they I realized they are related to the thread. I was wondering if the links you posted ones that have already been in this thread? I totally forgot to mention I have read every comment and watched every video, clicked every link, listened to every interview that has been in this thread. I also read everything on EarthClinic and while I've liked that site, I feel it really lacked the understanding and knowledge that we have over here. There is so much amazing information in this thread alone. So grateful I found it!

Hi SGotI,

One is already in the thread in the first few pages. The other posts I am not sure.. Possibly. A re-listen is always good ;)

The topic of urine therapy is really a big one which will help bring balance to people on a massive scale... I think there is one way to tell a true truth seeker who has cleared all their belief-systems... One who can openly try it without rejecting it. I know it is not for everyone... however I think it is so powerful that it can bring balance to virtually everyone who is out of ease with them self or suffering dis-ease. The exceptions are ... well.. heavy mercury toxicity which is still in their body with dental amalgams, these I would recommend safely removing first with a NON-mercury dentist using a RUBBER dam and specific heavy metal chelation to do it safely.

I follow various protocols gently now to remove chemtrail and food toxins which are to be expected with today's environment. FIR saunaing, rebounding.

Glad you like the thread and not sure if you realised my sign off has other things linked other than my website and my distant healing testimonials, which of course are worth a read too ;)

8-15 Liver and Gallbladder Flushes and regular daily Urine therapy (with safe amalgam removal first) and I think most people can get well physically... There can be other things going on emotionally and mentally but there are ways to help with that too. I think urine therapy will help strengthen the self emotionally and mentally btw but there are techniques to help remove past traumas... I can also sense these in people in "their time line" with clairsentience distantly.

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More info >

http://davidjubb.com/images/images/book_covers/Urine%20Therapy.pdf

[Pris]

You guys are great! :cool2: I have so much to learn just from Connecting with Sauce and SomeGirlOnTheInternet -- let alone everyone else!

Some time back, I made a neti pot from a little tea pot (the spout is round and short) . Works just great! I tried it with urine once, but didn't like that. So, when I use it (if I feel my sinuses acting up [which is my upper, right molar feeling sensitive]), I just mix half a teaspoon of baking soda, half a teaspoon of sea salt into one glass of warm distilled water. And, I drink some concentrated lemon juice a few times a day (yeah, I know, it should be real lemons! :p) But, it works! The symptoms seem to go away in a day or two (as opposed to getting worse and lingering for weeks and you think your head is going to explode from the pain).

It's interesting SomeGirlOnTheInternet mentioning about those weird, bubbly rashes. I've not been looping every single drop, but enough that I, too, got some weird, bubbly rash on my index finger near the nail bed in the last week. I thought it might be a wart. Usually, I like to go at those (with a pin or something hehe), but this time, I left it alone. It was prickly/itchy for a couple of days, but low and behold, in a few days it completely disappeared!

I have not ever done an enema. Or a liver cleanse.

I do keep some old urine to apply into my hair and on my face/body (but not at the moment as we have no kitchen and bathroom). For awhile I used to keep old urine by the gallons and pour it into my bathwater (half a jug at a time). But, my boyfriend complained about the smell (especially after using a towel). It's true, the smell can be pretty intense. Still, when it's your own, I don't think you notice it as much lol. And, as we all know, there is no smell once it completely dries. There's a nice, musky scent that lingers in the hair. Maybe I'll start collecting old urine for my bathwater again once I get my life back in order.

ps I've also had that weird ammonia smell in my nostrils for a brief periods.

Oh, note: I've had all my mercury fillings removed a few years ago (I had a lot), and I'm certain it was not done 'properly' (not all dentists think it's a big deal, I was 'lucky' to just get it done). (I think it was two visits spread out over two weeks.) When I was walking home from the dentist on the last day, I had this weird star burst that obscured my vision and it lasted for a few hours. It rather concerned me at the time (because it practically blinded me). :p

What's interesting is I remember that two of my molars were very 'grey' looking. But, once those mercury fillings were removed, my teeth completely regained their normal colour in the years that followed.

[RunningDeer]

I found this information helpful while the body is in it's housecleaning phase(s).


"Housecleaning & Withdrawal Symptoms"

“Food and Healing: How what you eat determines your health, your well-being, and the quality of your life,” by: Annemarie Colbin

pg. 214 - “...The healing process itself often becomes manifest in certain general physical withdrawal symptoms. Because these can sometimes be mistaken for symptoms of illness, it is important to know of them in advance.”

pg. 216 - Michio Kushi has classified signs of such “housecleaning” by the body into ten precise categories of symptoms:

General fatigue
Pains and aches
Fever, chills, and coughs
Abnormal sweating and frequent urination
Skin discharges and unusual body odors
Diarrhea or constipation
Temporary decrease in sexual desire and vitality
Temporary cessation of menstruation
Mental irritability
Other minor transitory symptoms: restless dreams, minor hair loss, feeling of coldness

pg 216 - “...some of these will be experienced by each individual, and the healthier his or her general condition, the fewer symptoms there will be. The symptoms are also characteristically transitory, sometimes lasting only a few hours or maybe days. Steady and extensive physical activity will speed up the cleansing process which is why all effective dietary regimes include exercise.”

pg. 218 - “...if your symptom is on the list, (see above) and you feel OK about it, it’s a healing reaction. Or you can consider a very helpful concept about the nature of healing symptoms noted by practitioners of homeopathy: They have found that discharge symptoms in the healing mode tend to follow a specific order, or progression, namely:

Symptoms move from the inside to the outside of the body (mucus in the lungs is coughed up; toxic matter from deep within the system comes out as boils or rashes).
Symptoms move from the upper part to the lower part of the body (medication that affects the kidneys, such as steroids, can be discharged by a rash on the legs.)
Symptoms relating to chronic conditions disappear in the reverse order of their appearance; the ones that emerged latest leave first and the earlier ones reemerge and then leave last. This means that long after we set out on a healing path, we might relieve symptoms of very old problems if these were suppressed or incorrectly treated. Their reemergence (sometimes known as retracing), if treated naturally and allowed to follow its course, would only mean that the body is healing itself. For example, if you used to cough a lot as a child and took medicine and then developed asthma, when you go into a healing mode, you may have a brief flare-up of the asthma, and later - even several years later - have a coughing episode that is in fact a “retracing” of your childhood condition.


The foregoing three rules comprise “Hering’s Law of Cure,” after Constantine Hering (1800-1880), who formulated them. To these, John Garvy, N.D., has added two more:

A feeling of well-being precedes a healing crisis.
There is also a feeling of well-being at the core during the crisis; that is, deep down inside it feels OK.

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

I don't even know where to begin. Firstly, CWS... I couldn't agree more. I believe that traumas are stored as energy imbalances likely due to an overdose of hormones and chemicals that the body released during the trauma. With it being more than the body/person could deal with at the time it was stored in the body. This causes the energy to fall out of alignment. This is my theory, but I have noticed that when losing weight I will often times experience a resurgence of old emotions that are not related to my current situation). This doesn't apply to going up or down 5lbs, but when I get to a weight that I haven't been since those traumas occurred (or body fat percentage might be more accurate although I only really have weight to go by). This is simply a theory I have but I agree that there can be healing of old emotional traumas even without necessarily addressing it from an ego perspective (reasoning, rationalizing, etc).

Pris... Thanks for sharing your experience! Not that I'm happy you had to get a rash, but its great to hear of others going through the process and coming out the other side. My rash is still pretty intense but its changing every day. I've been debating adding pictures to my post as I've been taking them.

Running Deer... That is exactly as I've learned it (and experienced it) over the years as well. I first heard about this "reverse healing" I just made up the term for lack of better words. I keep an eye on things as I can gauge how I'm doing (how far back I've healed in my timeline) based on what issues are coming up. Really cool, and I'm so happy you posted that for us all. Thank you.

I need to remember to update my post. I totally forgot to add that last night after all this neti-pot talk I decided to just snort a lot of it as its the best option I have right now. When I was done I felt like I was smelling without a filter. That is literally the only way I can think to explain it. I felt like I was smelling for the first time in as long as I can remember. Here is the weird part.. I went to the kitchen shortly after and picked up an avocado and opened it. When I took a bit I almost spit it out. I tasted really unappealing. I was in shock because.. well ITS AN AVOCADO! hahaha.. who doesn't love avocados?! I felt like with my smelling filter off I could taste things differently. Has anyone experienced anything like this. I'm going to test it again and see if it was just a weird avocado or if it really change the way I tasted foods.

Another quick question. I obviously don't do salt now, but I used to use a lot of at the time of starting... Anyone else have to readjust their taste buds to salt free? Any suggestions or things that work well in place of salt for flavor? I know I will adjust but its totally cramping my style. Sigh.. I miss salt. I had thought about adding some celery juice for the salts in it, but then everything will taste like celery... soooooooo. :/

Oh, before I forget. If you catch the last episode of this past season of Saturday Night Life they have a bit in the Weedend Update where they said that urine doesn't actually work for jellyfish stings and thats just an old wives tale. They said that the British gov made that statement when there was something going on and tons of jellyfish were in their oceans. I was just thinking.. "everyone knows pee helps a jellyfish sting... looks like they are trying to remove any benefits of urine from the public knowledge." They even went so far as to say that it actually makes the sting worse! Why was this in the Weekend Update? They didn't even try to say these claims weren't true, and they really didn't even tie into the jokes. Odd, don't you think?

[Pris]

I believe that traumas are stored as energy imbalances likely due to an overdose of hormones and chemicals that the body released during the trauma. With it being more than the body/person could deal with at the time it was stored in the body. This causes the energy to fall out of alignment...

This is simply a theory I have but I agree that there can be healing of old emotional traumas even without necessarily addressing it from an ego perspective (reasoning, rationalizing, etc).

Interesting! All I can say is that feels right to me.


Pris... Thanks for sharing your experience! Not that I'm happy you had to get a rash, but its great to hear of others going through the process and coming out the other side.

You're welcome -- same to you! :)


I went to the kitchen shortly after and picked up an avocado and opened it. When I took a bit I almost spit it out. I tasted really unappealing. I was in shock because.. well ITS AN AVOCADO! hahaha.. who doesn't love avocados?! I felt like with my smelling filter off I could taste things differently. Has anyone experienced anything like this. I'm going to test it again and see if it was just a weird avocado or if it really change the way I tasted foods.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Right after 'neti-potting', sense of smell/taste does seem to be more sensitive.

Btw, not quite related, I won't eat asparagus anymore (especially raw) because it makes the urine smell awful.



Another quick question. I obviously don't do salt now, but I used to use a lot of at the time of starting... Anyone else have to readjust their taste buds to salt free? Any suggestions or things that work well in place of salt for flavor? I know I will adjust but its totally cramping my style. Sigh.. I miss salt. I had thought about adding some celery juice for the salts in it, but then everything will taste like celery... soooooooo. :/

I'm still not off salt entirely (yet) -- it's so hard to give up. :p But, I did stop adding salt to my food and learned to replace it with spices -- lots and lots and lots of spices/herbs. That really helps. So, that's up to your own taste buds what you like. I myself like to use dill, paprika, turmeric, cayenne pepper, black pepper, basil... parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme (LOL!).

I need to eat more celery. ;)




Oh, before I forget. If you catch the last episode of this past season of Saturday Night Life they have a bit in the Weedend Update where they said that urine doesn't actually work for jellyfish stings and thats just an old wives tale. They said that the British gov made that statement when there was something going on and tons of jellyfish were in their oceans. I was just thinking.. "everyone knows pee helps a jellyfish sting... looks like they are trying to remove any benefits of urine from the public knowledge." They even went so far as to say that it actually makes the sting worse! Why was this in the Weekend Update? They didn't even try to say these claims weren't true, and they really didn't even tie into the jokes. Odd, don't you think?

No, I don't think that's odd. What do you expect from the oppressive mainstream propaganda machine? They'll look at you without blinking and tell you salt is great, and distilled water causes early death. Whatever, eh? :p

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[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

I know I stopped updating daily, but I wanted to check back in and let you all know whats been going on. So the rash on my right shin is almost gone. I've taken pictures and I think the pictures are uploading into an album I created but I don't know if I did it right.. if I did the photo where you can barely read the date is from the 22nd. The one that isn't labeled with any date is from yesterday. (I didn't shave my legs soo... yeah.. enjoy that little bonus. lol).

Anyways, all signs and symptoms of the Hashimotos I was diagnosed with are completely gone. I'm even growing hair on my arms now. (Hashimotos can interfere with hair growth and I'd been almost hairless). The hair on my head is growing back in (it was pretty thin because of the Hashimotos as well). I have a great sense of calm, and have overcome issues across the board from health, to emotional stuff. Anxiety and PTSD are under control (that was the biggest thing I noticed first). Now my energy levels are up. My skin is looking really glowly.. to the point that for the most part I only wear mascara now.

I want to share an experience from a new friend of mine I told about this.. So it is my friends Aunt who came to town and my friend has been wanting me to meet her. Saturday we got together and at the end of the evening this topic came up. I then spent a couple hours just dropping the information I've learned. Wednesday she texts me and says that on Saturday when we met she was having a shingles flareup. From what she said its something that she has been struggling with on and off for some time. Anyways, she figured, why not try it.. what's to lose. Soooo Wednesday morning she texts and says that the next morning she tried it and it almost immediately turned it around and eliminated it and that by that time (Wednesday morning) she didn't even need to take meds for it anymore. I'm so excited for her and wanted to share her testimony from 4 days in.

Sometime else.. I'm looping probably 98%.. I save about 2% to age. I loop anywhere from 2-3 gallons a day at this point.

As for the Mr.... he dropped excess fat and his skin is absolutely radiant and glowing. His bald spot is filling back in and thickening up as well. I will continue to keep updating periodically.

[Pris]

I know I stopped updating daily, but I wanted to check back in and let you all know whats been going on. So the rash on my right shin is almost gone. I've taken pictures and I think the pictures are uploading into an album I created but I don't know if I did it right.. if I did the photo where you can barely read the date is from the 22nd. The one that isn't labeled with any date is from yesterday. (I didn't shave my legs soo... yeah.. enjoy that little bonus. lol).

Anyways, all signs and symptoms of the Hashimotos I was diagnosed with are completely gone. I'm even growing hair on my arms now. (Hashimotos can interfere with hair growth and I'd been almost hairless). The hair on my head is growing back in (it was pretty thin because of the Hashimotos as well). I have a great sense of calm, and have overcome issues across the board from health, to emotional stuff. Anxiety and PTSD are under control (that was the biggest thing I noticed first). Now my energy levels are up. My skin is looking really glowly.. to the point that for the most part I only wear mascara now.

I want to share an experience from a new friend of mine I told about this.. So it is my friends Aunt who came to town and my friend has been wanting me to meet her. Saturday we got together and at the end of the evening this topic came up. I then spent a couple hours just dropping the information I've learned. Wednesday she texts me and says that on Saturday when we met she was having a shingles flareup. From what she said its something that she has been struggling with on and off for some time. Anyways, she figured, why not try it.. what's to lose. Soooo Wednesday morning she texts and says that the next morning she tried it and it almost immediately turned it around and eliminated it and that by that time (Wednesday morning) she didn't even need to take meds for it anymore. I'm so excited for her and wanted to share her testimony from 4 days in.

Sometime else.. I'm looping probably 98%.. I save about 2% to age. I loop anywhere from 2-3 gallons a day at this point.

As for the Mr.... he dropped excess fat and his skin is absolutely radiant and glowing. His bald spot is filling back in and thickening up as well. I will continue to keep updating periodically.

Thank you for the update! Fantastic news! :biggrin1:

You are such an inspiration!

I used to take medication for hypothyroidism (which they told me has no cure 'of course'). Let's just say I stopped that a long time ago after being on the medication for about nine years or so. I was a bit concerned that my thyroid may have lost its ability to function on its own because of the 'medication' (that's the whole point of taking the 'medication'. :p). I said 'good-bye' to my family doctor who thought I was a crazy idiot for getting my information off the internet.

In those days, I started supplementing with food-grade iodine. At first, I seemed to be somewhat allergic to the iodine, but I continued to treat myself until the allergic symptoms dissipated. The initial reaction to slowly coming off the thyroid medication was that a lot of my hair fell out and my neck/thyroid became quite swollen/achy. I felt incredibly lethargic. It took several months before I started to feel 'well' again.

It was much later on that I discovered Urine Therapy/distilled waters (and why salt may not be good for you including all inorganic minerals, regular vitamin/mineral supplements etc)... So, I stopped completely with the iodine and everything else. Now, I just do the Urine Therapy (mostly just take the morning pee).

It's been... almost two years now?... And, so far, I feel fine. My hair is thick and healthy, my energy is high, and I no longer have difficulties regulating my body temperature. :)

Nope, I have not had my blood tested since. I'm kind of curious... but, I don't trust the 'system'.


Oooh, pictures with unshaved legs? Where lol? :bounce:

[Connecting with Sauce]

Some more Your-In medicine links

http://www.biblicalscholarship.net/urine.htm

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

Lol Pris,

I think I figured out how to upload them. There should be a album on my profile now called UT Detox... the picture at the top of the page is newer.. the one at the bottom is the first picture.

That is so great your thyroid kicked back in. Sounds like you may have been having a bromide and halogen detox from the Iodine.. a lot of people think its an allergic reaction but its actually the crap getting pushed out of the thyroid by the real iodine.

You know, the more I use it the more I trust it.. I feel like everyone I've talked to shares that sentiment.

I'm looping at least 2 gallons a day.. typically around 3.. sometimes more, and eating a lot of raw foods. 1 cooked meal a day, but it is typically accompanied by a lot of raw foods. The more raw and less cooked food I do the better I feel. I really enjoy getting to have a cooked meal each day though. Sigh.. I wish food (especially cooked food) wasn't so addictive.

I just realized today is my one month mark on UT! I hear 3 months is when a lot of magic happens. I'm excited to see what other benefits are on the way!

Out of curiosity has anyone noticed a weight gain without clothes fitting tighter? I'm wondering if it is hydration related.. like.. I'm just really hydrated now, but it seems so weird. Maybe it's something else. I don't know.

[Pris]

Lol Pris,

I think I figured out how to upload them. There should be a album on my profile now called UT Detox... the picture at the top of the page is newer.. the one at the bottom is the first picture.

That is so great your thyroid kicked back in. Sounds like you may have been having a bromide and halogen detox from the Iodine.. a lot of people think its an allergic reaction but its actually the crap getting pushed out of the thyroid by the real iodine.

You know, the more I use it the more I trust it.. I feel like everyone I've talked to shares that sentiment.

I'm looping at least 2 gallons a day.. typically around 3.. sometimes more, and eating a lot of raw foods. 1 cooked meal a day, but it is typically accompanied by a lot of raw foods. The more raw and less cooked food I do the better I feel. I really enjoy getting to have a cooked meal each day though. Sigh.. I wish food (especially cooked food) wasn't so addictive.

I just realized today is my one month mark on UT! I hear 3 months is when a lot of magic happens. I'm excited to see what other benefits are on the way!

Out of curiosity has anyone noticed a weight gain without clothes fitting tighter? I'm wondering if it is hydration related.. like.. I'm just really hydrated now, but it seems so weird. Maybe it's something else. I don't know.

I feel the same way about cooked food. :p It's so addictive. And, I too, do my best to accompany it (most of the time!) with lots of raw food.

Looking at those pictures definitely, IMO, shows a great example of a 'healing crisis'. My gosh! You are looping at least 2 to 3 gallons a day?! That's... remarkable!!! I mean, one gallon a day is super (of any kind of distilled waters let alone just urine)! It's hard enough for me to pull off one gallon of machine-made distilled water per day! I get a huge amount of exercise frantically running to the bathroom all the time. ;)

No, I've not noticed a weight gain without clothes fitting tighter so I can't give you any insight on that. I wouldn't be surprised if it is hydration related. You've literally got 'a river flowing through you'! :biggrin1:

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

Oh yeah.. that's not just your opinion.. it is a fact! Major toxic release. I was so amazed by how quickly it was detoxing me. I knew the rash was likely as it's common but I haven't ever come across photos of the UT detox rash and I wanted to document mine so people could see how theirs might look.

Yep.. 2-3 gallons.. its not uncommon for me to go above 3 gallons. That's also not something I've heard of anyone doing at this point. It's a lot and I have usually looped my first gallon by the time I'm waking up for the day. Once I fall asleep for the night I count it as the next day since those hormones are the ones that would be in my morning pee if I could actually get through the night without peeing ever hour or two. What is interesting is sometimes I feel like I can hold it for a while without too much difficulty and I end up peeing a quart or more.. other times I'm running to the bathroom to pee just a cup and half or two.

Well .. I don't know what my deal is with the weight gain, but yeah.. that "river flowing through you" saying pops into my head constantly! Love it! That's definitely what it feels like in the morning too when I have nothing in my system.

So, I've pretty much stopped wearing makeup .. aside from the occasional mascara. Today the Mr. had off work (Thursday) and we spent the day hanging out and walking around the city. Half way through lunch he looks at me and says, "Wait.. Are you?... You aren't wearing any makeup are you?" I was like, "No.. I haven't been feeling like I needed it." and he says, "I honestly couldn't even tell. You look great!" That made me feel wonderful. I feel the changes and I see them but its nice to have him noticing. That said.. here is a picture of me with no makeup on. I just realized thus far I've posted pictures of my hairy detox rash legs, and me with no makeup. lol.. I'm sure you all are charmed. ahahahahahahaha!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=27157&d=1410511613

[Pris]

Oh yeah.. that's not just your opinion.. it is a fact! Major toxic release. I was so amazed by how quickly it was detoxing me. I knew the rash was likely as it's common but I haven't ever come across photos of the UT detox rash and I wanted to document mine so people could see how theirs might look.

Yep.. 2-3 gallons.. its not uncommon for me to go above 3 gallons. That's also not something I've heard of anyone doing at this point. It's a lot and I have usually looped my first gallon by the time I'm waking up for the day. Once I fall asleep for the night I count it as the next day since those hormones are the ones that would be in my morning pee if I could actually get through the night without peeing ever hour or two. What is interesting is sometimes I feel like I can hold it for a while without too much difficulty and I end up peeing a quart or more.. other times I'm running to the bathroom to pee just a cup and half or two.

Well .. I don't know what my deal is with the weight gain, but yeah.. that "river flowing through you" saying pops into my head constantly! Love it! That's definitely what it feels like in the morning too when I have nothing in my system.

So, I've pretty much stopped wearing makeup .. aside from the occasional mascara. Today the Mr. had off work (Thursday) and we spent the day hanging out and walking around the city. Half way through lunch he looks at me and says, "Wait.. Are you?... You aren't wearing any makeup are you?" I was like, "No.. I haven't been feeling like I needed it." and he says, "I honestly couldn't even tell. You look great!" That made me feel wonderful. I feel the changes and I see them but its nice to have him noticing. That said.. here is a picture of me with no makeup on. I just realized thus far I've posted pictures of my hairy detox rash legs, and me with no makeup. lol.. I'm sure you all are charmed. ahahahahahahaha!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=27157&d=1410511613

Hello, gorgeous! :thumb:

I've heard of morning pee referred to as 'The Golden Dawn' (related to the Hermetic Order, occult stuff).

Some say 'The Fountain of Youth' is the urine we pee. Any cup used to collect this pee is 'The Holy Grail'.

Interesting ideas! :)

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

awww thanks Pris,

Yeah.. I've heard Andrew Norton Webber talking a lot about that. It makes perfect sense although I think David Wilcock has it right with that the holy grail is.. I believe the holy grail is our pineal gland, and the quest for it is the quest for understanding out true divinity. The pineal gland does hold the purest water from the body so it plays into the same idea. Totally resonates with me!

[Connecting with Sauce]

awww thanks Pris,

Yeah.. I've heard Andrew Norton Webber talking a lot about that. It makes perfect sense although I think David Wilcock has it right with that the holy grail is.. I believe the holy grail is our pineal gland, and the quest for it is the quest for understanding out true divinity. The pineal gland does hold the purest water from the body so it plays into the same idea. Totally resonates with me!

I think all these topics align.

There is a guy called Bill Donohue on YT who links Bible stories as allegory for meditation.

The arc of the covenant may be the bone in the skull holding the pineal and pituitary glands as it is box shaped.

The most UT I've done in a day is similar to that 4 to 5 litres over 24 hrs more likely 3... When I did I had boils on my spine detoxing.. I loop as much as I can but you end up wired if looping past 7pm..

I much prefer my inner distiller to the Mini Classic ii counter top... But salt must be avoided.

[Pris]

awww thanks Pris,

Yeah.. I've heard Andrew Norton Webber talking a lot about that. It makes perfect sense although I think David Wilcock has it right with that the holy grail is.. I believe the holy grail is our pineal gland, and the quest for it is the quest for understanding out true divinity. The pineal gland does hold the purest water from the body so it plays into the same idea. Totally resonates with me!

I think all these topics align.

There is a guy called Bill Donohue on YT who links Bible stories as allegory for meditation.

The arc of the covenant may be the bone in the skull holding the pineal and pituitary glands as it is box shaped.

The most UT I've done in a day is similar to that 4 to 5 litres over 24 hrs more likely 3... When I did I had boils on my spine detoxing.. I loop as much as I can but you end up wired if looping past 7pm..

I much prefer my inner distiller to the Mini Classic ii counter top... But salt must be avoided.

Ah, yes, could be! I've also heard of the pineal gland being called the Philosopher's Stone.

I think it's neat that our pineal gland is a cute little inner eye-ball. :biggrin1:

Oh, that Bill Donahue is awesome! He's so much fun! Gaining knowledge from him can get kind of addictive. And, no worries -- there's no shortage of videos to watch! :becky: Btw, I've talked with him a few times and he's really a nice guy!

Myself, I've not had trouble sleeping through the night drinking about half a cup to a cup of urine right right before bedtime (depending on how thirsty I am). But, I'm not talking about looping all day long. I just like to take the morning urine mostly and evening urine... with the idea that the morning urine has all the best stuff in it, and the evening urine helps my body with repairs while I sleep.

Yes, I'm still not there with the salt I hate to admit. :o

[Connecting with Sauce]

awww thanks Pris,

Yeah.. I've heard Andrew Norton Webber talking a lot about that. It makes perfect sense although I think David Wilcock has it right with that the holy grail is.. I believe the holy grail is our pineal gland, and the quest for it is the quest for understanding out true divinity. The pineal gland does hold the purest water from the body so it plays into the same idea. Totally resonates with me!

I think all these topics align.

There is a guy called Bill Donohue on YT who links Bible stories as allegory for meditation.

The arc of the covenant may be the bone in the skull holding the pineal and pituitary glands as it is box shaped.

The most UT I've done in a day is similar to that 4 to 5 litres over 24 hrs more likely 3... When I did I had boils on my spine detoxing.. I loop as much as I can but you end up wired if looping past 7pm..

I much prefer my inner distiller to the Mini Classic ii counter top... But salt must be avoided.

Ah, yes, could be! I've also heard of the pineal gland being called the Philosopher's Stone.

I think it's neat that our pineal gland is a cute little inner eye-ball. :biggrin1:

Oh, that Bill Donahue is awesome! He's so much fun! Gaining knowledge from him can get kind of addictive. And, no worries -- there's no shortage of videos to watch! :becky: Btw, I've talked with him a few times and he's really a nice guy!

Myself, I've not had trouble sleeping through the night drinking about half a cup to a cup of urine right right before bedtime (depending on how thirsty I am). But, I'm not talking about looping all day long. I just like to take the morning urine mostly and evening urine... with the idea that the morning urine has all the best stuff in it, and the evening urine helps my body with repairs while I sleep.

Yes, I'm still not there with the salt I hate to admit. :o


Andrew Norton Webber has some great stuff on his site about salt. Also a researcher on Facebook called Donny Daigle (Mosley) is a big salt researcher I heard at the "Waters Of Life Gathering" in August. I did a talk there too and did some of the healing I do. Are you on Facebook?

[Connecting with Sauce]

Oh yeah.. that's not just your opinion.. it is a fact! Major toxic release. I was so amazed by how quickly it was detoxing me. I knew the rash was likely as it's common but I haven't ever come across photos of the UT detox rash and I wanted to document mine so people could see how theirs might look.

Yep.. 2-3 gallons.. its not uncommon for me to go above 3 gallons. That's also not something I've heard of anyone doing at this point. It's a lot and I have usually looped my first gallon by the time I'm waking up for the day. Once I fall asleep for the night I count it as the next day since those hormones are the ones that would be in my morning pee if I could actually get through the night without peeing ever hour or two. What is interesting is sometimes I feel like I can hold it for a while without too much difficulty and I end up peeing a quart or more.. other times I'm running to the bathroom to pee just a cup and half or two.

Well .. I don't know what my deal is with the weight gain, but yeah.. that "river flowing through you" saying pops into my head constantly! Love it! That's definitely what it feels like in the morning too when I have nothing in my system.

So, I've pretty much stopped wearing makeup .. aside from the occasional mascara. Today the Mr. had off work (Thursday) and we spent the day hanging out and walking around the city. Half way through lunch he looks at me and says, "Wait.. Are you?... You aren't wearing any makeup are you?" I was like, "No.. I haven't been feeling like I needed it." and he says, "I honestly couldn't even tell. You look great!" That made me feel wonderful. I feel the changes and I see them but its nice to have him noticing. That said.. here is a picture of me with no makeup on. I just realized thus far I've posted pictures of my hairy detox rash legs, and me with no makeup. lol.. I'm sure you all are charmed. ahahahahahahaha!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=27157&d=1410511613

Hello, gorgeous! :thumb:

I've heard of morning pee referred to as 'The Golden Dawn' (related to the Hermetic Order, occult stuff).

Some say 'The Fountain of Youth' is the urine we pee. Any cup used to collect this pee is 'The Holy Grail'.

Interesting ideas! :)

Yes my "Holy Grail" is a BP Wild Bean Cafe travel coffee mug. It fully seals! Not ideal as the stainless steel and plastic lid tarnish the pee over time... Glass is MUCH better.

For UTers, especially loopers there is a secret Facebook group which has lots of AMAZING shares of how powerful urine is as a healing modality! By all means contact me on Facebook and I can add any who are FULLY aware of this knowledge... However if they are not fully aware they will not be allowed in or removed pretty quickly if not " there yet" on this knowledge.

[Pris]

Andrew Norton Webber has some great stuff on his site about salt. Also a researcher on Facebook called Donny Daigle (Mosley) is a big salt researcher I heard at the "Waters Of Life Gathering" in August. I did a talk there too and did some of the healing I do. Are you on Facebook?

No, I'm avoiding Facebook because I don't trust it (I know, I know. How can anything be trusted these days?). But, I'll definitely check out what's new with Andrew Norton Webber! :cool:

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

CWS.. do you mind if I friend you and you let me in that group.. I loop all day and night, I wake up several times throughout the night and loop that as well. I'm looping around 3 gallons (12 Liters aprox) per day, give or take a cup or two. I would really love to be in contact with others doing this.. especially if there is anyone else doing as much looping as I am. I haven't heard of it yet, but I bet there is another.

[Connecting with Sauce]

CWS.. do you mind if I friend you and you let me in that group.. I loop all day and night, I wake up several times throughout the night and loop that as well. I'm looping around 3 gallons (12 Liters aprox) per day, give or take a cup or two. I would really love to be in contact with others doing this.. especially if there is anyone else doing as much looping as I am. I haven't heard of it yet, but I bet there is another.

Of course... Will add you to it.

[Pris]

Does anyone here know anybody who got bitten by a poisonous snake or a spider and used Urine Therapy (under the tongue/drink) to completely avoid anti-venom treatment/hospitalization and, obviously, recover?

[jackovesk]

Does anyone here know anybody who got bitten by a poisonous snake or a spider and used Urine Therapy (under the tongue/drink) to completely avoid anti-venom treatment/hospitalization and, obviously, recover?

May I answer this one for you Pris...:)

((NO))...:wizard:

[onawah]

I did take a class once with a midwife/barefoot doctor whose practice was in the Bayou. She treated snake bites, gangrene, amputations and other kinds of serious conditions for folks who had no other access to doctors.
She said the most important medicine she had for hard core cases was activated charcoal. She gave it internally in capsules to her patients as well as putting it on poultices.
I keep it on hand always in case of tick bites and copperhead bites.
It soaks up toxins quickly both internally and topically, and is very inexpensive.
You can buy it at many pharmacies.

[Earth Angel]

well this is very interesting as my husband was bit by a snake here in Ontario about a week and a half ago....my first thought was that he use urine therapy on it.....he didn't actually see the snake and wasn't aware he had been bitten until he got home and I noticed a funny scratch on his foot, upon further inspection I saw that there were two holes about an inch apart and a line in the middle that was a different colour..there was a large bruise around the whole area which was also swollen....we went to a walk in clinic (i had to beg him to go) and they said sorry we aren't taking any more patients for tonight so he was quite happy about that! ......this is day 10 and his foot is still bruised ... he has drank some urine and also applied it to the area.

[jackovesk]

Does anyone here know anybody who got bitten by a poisonous snake or a spider and used Urine Therapy (under the tongue/drink) to completely avoid anti-venom treatment/hospitalization and, obviously, recover?

May I answer this one for you Pris...:)

((NO))...:wizard:


well this is very interesting as my husband was bit by a snake here in Ontario about a week and a half ago....my first thought was that he use urine therapy on it.....he didn't actually see the snake and wasn't aware he had been bitten until he got home and I noticed a funny scratch on his foot, upon further inspection I saw that there were two holes about an inch apart and a line in the middle that was a different colour..there was a large bruise around the whole area which was also swollen....we went to a walk in clinic (i had to beg him to go) and they said sorry we aren't taking any more patients for tonight so he was quite happy about that! ......this is day 10 and his foot is still bruised ... he has drank some urine and also applied it to the area.

Well that will teach me ((NOT)) to jump to any preconceived allusions...:)

[Pris]

well this is very interesting as my husband was bit by a snake here in Ontario about a week and a half ago....my first thought was that he use urine therapy on it.....he didn't actually see the snake and wasn't aware he had been bitten until he got home and I noticed a funny scratch on his foot, upon further inspection I saw that there were two holes about an inch apart and a line in the middle that was a different colour..there was a large bruise around the whole area which was also swollen....we went to a walk in clinic (i had to beg him to go) and they said sorry we aren't taking any more patients for tonight so he was quite happy about that! ......this is day 10 and his foot is still bruised ... he has drank some urine and also applied it to the area.

Thank you for sharing that! This inspires cautious optimism.

[Pris]

I did take a class once with a midwife/barefoot doctor whose practice was in the Bayou. She treated snake bites, gangrene, amputations and other kinds of serious conditions for folks who had no other access to doctors.
She said the most important medicine she had for hard core cases was activated charcoal. She gave it internally in capsules to her patients as well as putting it on poultices.
I keep it on hand always in case of tick bites and copperhead bites.
It soaks up toxins quickly both internally and topically, and is very inexpensive.
You can buy it at many pharmacies.

Fantastic! :) I happen to have activated charcoal (for aquarium use) that I've used for filtering drinking water. It ought to be good enough for human consumption... I guess if I were to ever need to use it, I could just smash some down into a powder and drink it with some water.

[Pris]

Does anyone here know anybody who got bitten by a poisonous snake or a spider and used Urine Therapy (under the tongue/drink) to completely avoid anti-venom treatment/hospitalization and, obviously, recover?

May I answer this one for you Pris...:)

((NO))...:wizard:


well this is very interesting as my husband was bit by a snake here in Ontario about a week and a half ago....my first thought was that he use urine therapy on it.....he didn't actually see the snake and wasn't aware he had been bitten until he got home and I noticed a funny scratch on his foot, upon further inspection I saw that there were two holes about an inch apart and a line in the middle that was a different colour..there was a large bruise around the whole area which was also swollen....we went to a walk in clinic (i had to beg him to go) and they said sorry we aren't taking any more patients for tonight so he was quite happy about that! ......this is day 10 and his foot is still bruised ... he has drank some urine and also applied it to the area.

Well that will teach me ((NOT)) to jump to any preconceived allusions...:)

Lol! I don't know anyone either and that's why I'm asking. It's supposed to work, but I want proof -- preferably from a living, breathing human being. I live in an area that has a lot of black widows, but I don't want to invite one to bite me just so I can test out the theory. :spider:

[SomeGirlOnTheInternet]

CWS.. do you mind if I friend you and you let me in that group.. I loop all day and night, I wake up several times throughout the night and loop that as well. I'm looping around 3 gallons (12 Liters aprox) per day, give or take a cup or two. I would really love to be in contact with others doing this.. especially if there is anyone else doing as much looping as I am. I haven't heard of it yet, but I bet there is another.

Of course... Will add you to it.


I sent you a friend request, and a message but it probably went to your "other" folder in your inbox.. unless I sent it to the wrong guy..

[Earth Angel]

Pris I don't know what kind of snake bit my husband......so not sure if Urine would help with a poisonous snake...just thought it was a coincidence that you were asking the very question I had a week or so ago.....since he is not a fan of doctors or hospitals we just went with urine and I used my wand on it as well....so don't take this as evidence that a poisonous snake bite would be cured by urine.

[Pris]

Pris I don't know what kind of snake bit my husband......so not sure if Urine would help with a poisonous snake...just thought it was a coincidence that you were asking the very question I had a week or so ago.....since he is not a fan of doctors or hospitals we just went with urine and I used my wand on it as well....so don't take this as evidence that a poisonous snake bite would be cured by urine.

Yes, indeed... that's why I suggested cautious optimism in this case. Still, I greatly appreciate your input! :)

Btw, I'm not a fan of doctors or hospitals myself so I can relate to your husband. ;)

[conk]

A little off topic, but since activated charcoal was mentioned.....

Open a capsule of the charcoal and spread it all over your teeth. Let it sit for 5 minutes, taking care not to let it wash off. Be amazed at how white your teeth become! The charcoal 'eats' the tannins and other stains. Do it several times over a few days for best results.

Back to pee.........on my 10th day of drinking a cup of my morning wee. Goes down easy after the first few days of revulsion. ;) Patiently awaiting spectacular results. :)

[onawah]

Urine therapy in the Ayrevedic tradition
Stopping Ebola - The Ayurvedic Approach...
http://www.bolenreport.com/EbolaIndianProtocol.htm
Also posted here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75437-Ebola-It-s-Far-Far-Worse-Than-You-Thought&p=890479&viewfull=1#post890479


Stopping Ebola - The Ayurvedic Approach...

Water With Life - How To Cure and/or Curtail Ebola Virus Infection...

Note from Tim Bolen: Big Pharma would have us all believe, through their stranglehold on US media, that the drugs, vaccines, drugs, vaccines, drugs, and more drugs and vaccines approach is ALL there is in the world. But the fact is, there are MANY other approaches to health care on planet earth. Ayurvedic Medicine, for instance, has been around for over three thousand years, so read THIS interesting approach to dealing with Ebola...

TR Shantha MD is a former client of mine who, after a major assault on his practice, completely cleared his name - although you'd never know it from Quackwatch.com's article on him. You can read about that situation here.


By: Dr. T. R. Shantha, MD, PhD, FACA
Saturday, October 18th, 2014

The news about Ebola and its possible fatal end is everywhere in the news - created by many hypochondriacs. The virus is deadly and spreads only by contact with body fluids. Once the person gets the infection, their life hangs on a thin thread. Mortality from the infection is as high as 50% - 60%. Another deadly disease that kills about 35,000 people in the east, mostly young, is rabies, which is 100% fatal compared to 40-60% mortality by Ebola virus infection. Ebola will be and is curable, but not rabies.

Coming back to Ebola, it does not spread by air or touching people. It spreads only through body fluids contact, and use of contaminated needles and from animals to humans eating contaminated meat.

Two Americans flown from Liberia walked out of the Emory hospital after receiving an experimental vaccine with intensive care. An NBC camera operator is currently receiving an experimental drug called brincidofovir, or CMX001 for treatment of Ebola. Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States died, 10 days after he was admitted this month to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.

There is no vaccine or cure in sight for this dreaded disease. What is the mother to do if one has the Ebola infection! One desperate treatment with vaccine has resulted in some successes. That kind of vaccine used on two US citizens is not available to all in Africa.

The signs and symptoms after the Ebola virus infection are:

1. Up to first 9 days: the infected person suffers from fatigue, headache, fever with chills.
2. On day 10: develops high fever, vomiting blood, rash and passive behaviour.
3. On day 11: in some cases, there is bleeding from the nose, mouth, eyes and anus.
4. On day 12: develop seizures, internal bleeding, gradually lose consciousness, and death or recovers slowly.

Some patients have gotten blood transfusions from Ebola survivors, with the hope that a survivor's antibodies will help a sick person's immune system fight off the virus. Good supportive care also saves many lives. This consists of the routine care provided in American hospitals and intensive care units, such as monitoring patient's blood pressure, keeping them hydrated, helping them breathe – with machines, as needed. This help can keep patients alive until their immune system fights off the invading virus or succumbs to the Ebola virus infection.
My therapy to curtail and cure the Ebola virus infection is simple and inexpensive besides taking all preventive measures to come in contact. It is a precursor of a vaccine with production of auto-antibodies within the body of the infected patients. The therapy is called "auto urine therapy" (AUT). That is the infected person drinking his or her own urine.. Follow the guidelines below and call me if one needs further guidance.
As soon as the disease is suspected or diagnosed, before waiting for any therapy:
Start drinking all the urine that comes out the first day no matter what the condition of the patient is. If the patient is averse or has social stigma regarding this therapy, use a naso-gastric feeding tube to feed the urine. Collect the urine in a clean glass and feed the urine as soon as it is evacuated from the bladder through the urethra. Do not change the taste or save it to drink later.
The next day feed all the urine that comes out in the morning. Then feed in the afternoon and before going to bed. Follow the urine therapy with a drink of water.
The third day drink the urine all morning and drink the urine after mid afternoon
Fourth day drink the urine all morning. Then continue to drink urine in the morning for 11 more days and continue for one or more weeks. Morning urine drinking is necessary to get the benefits of AUT.
During urine therapy, drink clean water. Avoid eating meat and heavy meals. Continue all other supportive therapy.
How does urine therapy work?
The Ebola virus particles as they are broken down in the body by the immune system are passed in the urine with other metabolic products including protein components, enzymes, and hormones. There are dozens of medicines we swallow to curtail and cure diseases which are extracted from urine. When you drink the urine, the broken down fragments of the Ebola virus pass through the intestines. The intestines are lined with B-lymphocytes (and lymphocytes producing lymph nodes called Peyers' patches) which mature into antibody producing Plasma cells on the entire length of the gut wall (first line of immune defense). It is estimated that there are 180,000 immune antibody-producing white blood cells (Plasma cells) for every cubic millimeter of the wall. There are billions of these antibody synthesizing white blood cells in the wall of the gut. These plasma cells pick up the virus and their fragments, and synthesize antibodies against the Ebola virus. By the tenth day, billons of antibody particles are produced and circulating in the body, attaching to the Ebola viruses in the body, killing them, and clearing them from the body as you continue the AUT. Thus AUT cures the condition. It costs nothing and it is simple to adopt. Anyone can use the therapy whether in a village or in a hospital anywhere in the world. Starting therapy earlier can lead to decreased morbidity and mortality. It is only a theory and based on what I know about it, it will work.
I have been exposed to urine therapy since 1965. Urine contains more than 200-300 components of metabolites and other components from the body and they can help cure many diseases including this dreaded Ebola infection. There is hardly a disease that cannot be treated with auto urine therapy as primary or adjuvant therapy. Morarji Desai, the prime minister of India practiced AUT daily until he died in his nineties. It is part of a Hindu system of Yogic therapy that has been in practice for thousands of years. I would love to travel to the African countries, if anyone can fund, to treat these patients, and save lives with this simple therapy.
The following diagram shows the Ebola virus fragments in the urine encountering the immune antibody producing plasma cells lining the gut wall. These plasma cells ingest the Ebola virus antigens as they come in contact, which induces the manufacturing of immune antibodies against the Ebola virus. These antibodies circulate all over the body, and seek the Ebola virus like a heat-seeking missile. They attack the virus wherever they are, clearing them from the body and thus curing the disease. (This information can be reprinted with proper acknowledgment of the author without altering the content)


Dr. T. R. Shantha, MD, PhD, FACA
1946 Carrington Court
Stone Mountain, GA 30087-1446
Phone: 678-580-5446; Cell: 678-640-7705
Email: Shantha35@aol.com, www.trshanthamd.com
www.wedgetherapeutics.com


Bio:
T. R. Shantha is an MD, and obtained his Ph.D. from Emory University School of Medicine. He has published more than 100 research papers in distinguished peer reviewed journals all over the world such as the Journal Nature (7 papers), Science, Journal of Cell Biology, New England Journal of Medicine, Anesthesiology, Anatomy, Histology, cell biology, Journal of Urology and there is hardly a medical journal where his research articles have not appeared. He is the author of 9 books and the holder of 49 patents, many issued. On October 10, 2014 he obtained a patent on an energy saving motor along with another American inventor. He has multiple patents on the light bulb, also. His 4 patents on the treatment of Alzheimer's disease are under development (www.wedgetherapeutics.com). At present, he is working on Parkinson's, Prostate cancer and hypertrophy, migraine, hair loss, ALS, etc. Many of his discoveries are incorporated in medical textbooks. His discovery of the drug to treat Priapism is used all over the world in emergency rooms and by urologists. He has won many prestigious awards all over the world including the AAPI and AMA distinguished physician award. He has contributed to charity generously and participated in multiple works of charity in addition. Four of his children are physicians, and one is an expert in cardio-pulmonary technology.


- See more at: http://www.bolenreport.com/EbolaIndianProtocol.htm#sthash.PsX0WBGG.dpuf

[conk]

Here I am a month later, still drinking 6 oz in the morning. No positive effects yet. Do I need to be patient? Drink a larger quantity? More often? Stand on one leg while singing Urine My Thoughts and Prayers? ;)

[Abhaya]

Here I am a month later, still drinking 6 oz in the morning. No positive effects yet. Do I need to be patient? Drink a larger quantity? More often? Stand on one leg while singing Urine My Thoughts and Prayers? ;)

I'm sure the morning glass of urine has been amazing for your immune system. And there probably is some other subtle stuff going on. In my own experience however. If you are shooting for the omg results then the key is 1 gallon min,distilled liquid per day. You can mix and match with urine, distilled water, and fresh ,completely unprocessed, fruit juices. If you don't get crazy crazy results from that then I dono what to tell ya :)

[Pris]

Here I am a month later, still drinking 6 oz in the morning. No positive effects yet. Do I need to be patient? Drink a larger quantity? More often? Stand on one leg while singing Urine My Thoughts and Prayers? ;)

I'm sure the morning glass of urine has been amazing for your immune system. And there probably is some other subtle stuff going on. In my own experience however. If you are shooting for the omg results then the key is 1 gallon min,distilled liquid per day. You can mix and match with urine, distilled water, and fresh ,completely unprocessed, fruit juices. If you don't get crazy crazy results from that then I dono what to tell ya :)

Yes, I must agree with the one gallon (to one and a half gallons or more depending on your size) of distilled liquid(s) per day to see obvious results. For example, when I'm drinking that much, all the creaking in my joints disappear and, when I kneel, my knees stop popping. Also, I have a lot more energy, my muscles feel very 'fluid' lol, and I feel compelled to run around! My skin gets all plump and shimmery and wrinkles diminish.

With just the small amount of urine you're drinking, there are subtler things you may not have been paying attention to... like sleeping better or having a greater sex drive. ;)

Btw, I use aged urine on my hair (keep it in a spray bottle) and the 'results' of that are immediate. I apply it to my wet hair after a bath or shower (and to my roots) and let it air dry. From dry, frizzy, lifeless hair, I get incredibly lustrous, bouncy curls every time. :)

It's a similar result you'd get from rain water (distilled water) with the added benefit of vitamins and minerals etc.

My routine got interrupted by a move and unexpected home restorations... Not only that, it's a pain to run to the bathroom all the time when you have millions of things to do. Now that things are settling down and getting back to normal, I'm building up to drinking my one gallon of distilled waters per day again.

[Connecting with Sauce]

A urine fast blog..

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Here I am a month later, still drinking 6 oz in the morning. No positive effects yet. Do I need to be patient? Drink a larger quantity? More often? Stand on one leg while singing Urine My Thoughts and Prayers? ;)

Start looping it Conk :) And get hydrated with either distilled water or high water content fresh fruit... then loop and fast... (loop being consume 100% of what comes out and put it back in)

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http://www.fruitnut.net/HTML/201_Article_Urine.htm

[Pris]

A urine fast blog..

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HAHAHA Awesome video! This lady is amazing and so uplifting! Thanks for sharing this, Connecting with Sauce! :biggrin1:

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A urine fast blog..

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HAHAHA Awesome video! This lady is amazing and so uplifting! Thanks for sharing this, Connecting with Sauce! :biggrin1:

If you are on Facebook, then connect with me :)

[Pris]

If you are on Facebook, then connect with me :)

Aww... I'd love to... except that Facebook is evil. ;) At least we've got each other here, right?

[sigma6]

I'll connect with you on facebook Sauce! LOLOL!!!

[Connecting with Sauce]

I'll connect with you on facebook Sauce! LOLOL!!!

Sigma6, there is a secret group who are sharing urine and distilled water tips :)

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[Abhaya]

Th urine/distilled facebooks groups are awesome. Worth making an undercover facebook profile for :)

[Pris]

I'll connect with you on facebook Sauce! LOLOL!!!

Sigma6, there is a secret group who are sharing urine and distilled water tips :)



Th urine/distilled facebooks groups are awesome. Worth making an undercover facebook profile for :)

With all respect, you guys, I just don't trust it. Just 'who' is your group 'secret' from exactly? It's not the 99% I'm too worried about. ;)

'Undercover' or not, you still have an IP address...

[Connecting with Sauce]

Pris, I'm sure project avalon is secret too :) hahaha... easily found with Google

A good listen on UT by Dr Daniels...

http://vitalitycapsules.com/what-natural-healers-dont-want-you-to-know

[Connecting with Sauce]

Managed to get this thread mentioned on this show :)

http://oneradionetwork.com/open-friday-forums/open-phone-friday-back-drawing-board-start-october-31-2014/

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The special science of urine / Urine Superpowers …:

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[Bingo]

I can't believe my very first post is a urine tip, but here it is:

I find it very soothing during the day when staring at the computer. Poor tired eyes get a lot of strain. So I just fill up an eyecup with urine, which is cool, and I bathe both eyes several times a day. It feels great and I have the idea that I may be preventing cataracts, but have no idea if that is true.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I can't believe my very first post is a urine tip, but here it is:

I find it very soothing during the day when staring at the computer. Poor tired eyes get a lot of strain. So I just fill up an eyecup with urine, which is cool, and I bathe both eyes several times a day. It feels great and I have the idea that I may be preventing cataracts, but have no idea if that is true.

Hello BINGO,

Welcome to project avalon and I am pleased you've decided to post in one of the most important threads on the forum ;) .. taking the internal power back into the self...

This video is for you... and for all those who are not necessarily registered here (Helen :) ) ... but come to see more UT information... Share this far and wide...


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[nenosema]

Thank you for starting this topic & to everyone sharing this information. Yes it is probably the most amazing medicine on the planet if not in Universe

today I have started a Urine fast and will be fasting for two weeks, maybe longer. With fasting I have some experience and so know how powerful it can be on its own and want to basically give shivambu or chi pee the chance to work its magic.
Most of the holiday food would probably not be vegan anyway so why not? :)

being a bit experienced in the action of not eating the concept of solar breathing or breatharian feels very true, as after the first 3 days fasting it's not mentally or physically painful or annoying anymore it's..living gliding through life. Haven't done it in over a year though. Combined with Sun gazing, Shivambu and Earthing, bare feet on the ground I think we've broken the code that will make everything else more available to us - & I am so excited to start traveling the country, making art, connecting with people (no more anxiety) and practicing these natural ways of being. I don't want to be depressed or lost anymore! Smiling from the center of my heart * This must be sticked!



KyDY-5ymkOY

this talk is very interesting, I'm going to try this! Anyone else who does this recipe please post your experiences~

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd397/otherwanderer/gloriouslyprevious.jpg:) (http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/otherwanderer/media/gloriouslyprevious.jpg.html)
breatharian
http://www.joanocean.com/jackpage.html

[Connecting with Sauce]

I do wonder at what point it will, if at all get stickied almost 70,000 views now :D ...
I also can gauge that others in the "health" arena do this practice but for commercial reasons do NOT mention it at all as it could 'turn off' less open minded followers from their products or message they bring... I have nothing to sell as I find information and sharing should be free, and those who find my healing do so when they need it and trials are available FOC generally as the testimonials I have are pretty profound, even if I do say so myself... If I was my "old me" reading my testimonials I would also be in disbelief too :) lol... anyway...

Keep taking the piss...

John

[Connecting with Sauce]

This is an extract from the show below:

http://www46.zippyshare.com/v/55171111/file.html

The whole show here :

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/doc-mike-witort-cure-now-wake-well-december-18-2014/

Show Highlights:
-The 4 tapping points in EFT
-Getting rid of a headache easily
-What prescription drugs are really doing to the body
-What’s causing hurting feet and legs?
-Fascinating information on fecal implants
-Urine therapy
-A simple cure for MS?
and so much more!!!

[ThePythonicCow]

This must be sticked!


I do wonder at what point it will, if at all get stickied almost 70,000 views now :D ... It got stuck :)

[Connecting with Sauce]

This must be sticked!


I do wonder at what point it will, if at all get stickied almost 70,000 views now :D ... It got stuck :)


Yeah! :thumb:

[Connecting with Sauce]

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/The_URINETARIAN_CHURCH_of_SOUTHERN_CALIFORNIA/info


http://members.efn.org/~finnpo/rgp/FinnpoOutline.html

[nenosema]

Urine Therapy, Distilled Water and Breatharianism
An interview on The People's Health show with Elizabeth Seninde


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN-jnfhUemQ

[Bingo]

Just to post a quickie relating to the change in my skin after a year of ut: I take a quarter cup of morning urine and follow it with a couple of tablespoons of coconut oil. My skin has become amazingly smooth and soft and younger looking. And with the additional coconut oil in my system, the urine begins to take on the coconut influence which improves the taste.

I'd be very interested in any changes others have noticed.

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[nenosema]

Omg those poor animals :(


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[conk]

I'd be very interested in any changes others have noticed.
2 months of drinking 8 oz daily and no change whatsoever. And trust me, I have plenty of issues/symptoms in need of remedy.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I'd be very interested in any changes others have noticed.
2 months of drinking 8 oz daily and no change whatsoever. And trust me, I have plenty of issues/symptoms in need of remedy.

Have you:

Given up meat
Given up grains
Reduced or given up salt
Fasted and looped urine
Still got any amalgam fillings?

Maybe a few liver and gallbladder flushes would be beneficial too... Just did my 15th liverGB flush..

What are you experiencing which you need relief from conk?

[nenosema]

Thats strange.
Dr. Nakao mentions in here that some of the people that didn't like the taste would use a straw or a tube to bypass the tastebuds. Nothing happened over month. But when the urine was allowed to touch the sensors in the area under the tongue and around the the throat or tonsils, the eaffects were as "normal" with in a week.
being that the more one consumes the faster they will notice healing.

I'm sorry to hear you've noticed no changes from those two months.. :\



at 29 minutes he talks about the differences

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEPrB6x02CI

[nenosema]

Distilled Waters Testimonials
https://kiwi6.com/file/dnnzg69p4k
Shivambu Shastra
https://kiwi6.com/file/62czh2aemd
The Golden Fountain
https://kiwi6.com/file/3jqkunezqd
The Water of Life
https://kiwi6.com/file/e5zuajgixd

[Connecting with Sauce]

Deep Wound (to the bone) Healed by Urine Bandage in 8 months healing with photos...

https://huemantech.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/deep-wound-to-the-bone-healed-by-urine-bandage/

[conk]

I'd be very interested in any changes others have noticed.
2 months of drinking 8 oz daily and no change whatsoever. And trust me, I have plenty of issues/symptoms in need of remedy.

Have you:

Given up meat
Given up grains
Reduced or given up salt
Fasted and looped urine
Still got any amalgam fillings?

Maybe a few liver and gallbladder flushes would be beneficial too... Just did my 15th liverGB flush..

What are you experiencing which you need relief from conk?

Hey Sauce, I eat grass fed meat. No grains. No sugar. Minimal salt. I had my amalgams and root canals removed. I have an excellent diet, truly educated myself at the depths of understanding. I cannot fast, as I only weigh 170 lbs @ 6'4" tall. Simply cannot afford to lose weight. I did not loop, no. I've done about 8 liver flushes, the last one about 6 months ago.

I've suffered (!!!) near debilitating pain and fatigue for 10 years. The last 5 years have been extremely hard. Terrible headaches and myofascial (chest) pain. Outside of my ribcage, not inside. Awful fatigue, no drive, no ambition. Losing weight. No doctor can diagnose. Gave up on allopaths and spent a fortune on natural care for which insurance doesn't pay. Nearly at the end of the rope, dangling near the precipice! Any advice would be surely welcome.

[Connecting with Sauce]

I'd be very interested in any changes others have noticed.
2 months of drinking 8 oz daily and no change whatsoever. And trust me, I have plenty of issues/symptoms in need of remedy.

Have you:

Given up meat
Given up grains
Reduced or given up salt
Fasted and looped urine
Still got any amalgam fillings?

Maybe a few liver and gallbladder flushes would be beneficial too... Just did my 15th liverGB flush..

What are you experiencing which you need relief from conk?

Hey Sauce, I eat grass fed meat. No grains. No sugar. Minimal salt. I had my amalgams and root canals removed. I have an excellent diet, truly educated myself at the depths of understanding. I cannot fast, as I only weigh 170 lbs @ 6'4" tall. Simply cannot afford to lose weight. I did not loop, no. I've done about 8 liver flushes, the last one about 6 months ago.

I've suffered (!!!) near debilitating pain and fatigue for 10 years. The last 5 years have been extremely hard. Terrible headaches and myofascial (chest) pain. Outside of my ribcage, not inside. Awful fatigue, no drive, no ambition. Losing weight. No doctor can diagnose. Gave up on allopaths and spent a fortune on natural care for which insurance doesn't pay. Nearly at the end of the rope, dangling near the precipice! Any advice would be surely welcome.

Sounds like you've tried a fair bit... If you'd like to contact me via Skype to try some distant energy healing and I can perhaps work with you on an energy level which I am not sure you have tried. I also know a few techniques to work the unconscious mind if it is a past traumas causing it.
The first consult + session is FOC.

http://healingshores.com/testimonials/

[conk]

Thank you John. I've not used Skype before, so I'll get set up and give you a buzz. I am fully on board with energy healing and believe it is the future of medical care. Also believe that the subconscious mind directs the energy flow and not the conscious mind. Thanks so much for the kind and caring message. I'll check in with you as soon as I can.

Terry Neal, aka Conk

[Mari]

I've been taking the p**s for a few months now, after discovering 'Your own perfect medicine'. I can honestly say that its made a real difference. It was hard at first to get over the gag reflex, but I cured that by pinching my nose so I wouldn't smell it first. But to be honest, there was hardly any odour, save that which I imagined it to be. I had to hide the habit from my family & even now, they can't get their heads around it.
My mother used to tell me a story about when she was young & growing up on a farm in Yugoslavia, when her father developed gangrene in his foot ( I can't remember why) She told me he immersed his foot in a bucket of his own urine a few times & the gangrene disappeared. Urine therapy was standard practice in rural areas until the arrival of Pharma. I'm more than pleased to say that there seems to be a revival in this curative 'art'!

[Connecting with Sauce]

A great cartoon which covers all the bases really...

https://thenib.com/urine-the-miracle-cure-3454063c469e

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Hi John

I've been suffering from Lyme since oct 2011. I've been through many protocols like F-scan frequency and herbal therapy, distant healing (which had no effect, even had a new outbreak) diet with no dairy or wheat and now I'm on homeopathy also using a "Wellness Wand" that is said to harness Energy of the Universe. I think the Lyme is gone and I have made progress but still have symptoms, spitting phlegm from the sinuses and bronchi, itching eyes, sleeping problems, intestinal irregularities, pinches all over my body indicating fibromyalgia and recurring fatigue although I can feel Ok some days when I hope the tables have turned but symptoms keep recurring.

Do you have any experience from healing Lyme and it's complications?

[Elainie]

Hi John

I've been suffering from Lyme since oct 2011. I've been through many protocols like F-scan frequency and herbal therapy, distant healing (which had no effect, even had a new outbreak) diet with no dairy or wheat and now I'm on homeopathy also using a "Wellness Wand" that is said to harness Energy of the Universe. I think the Lyme is gone and I have made progress but still have symptoms, spitting phlegm from the sinuses and bronchi, itching eyes, sleeping problems, intestinal irregularities, pinches all over my body indicating fibromyalgia and recurring fatigue although I can feel Ok some days when I hope the tables have turned but symptoms keep recurring.

Do you have any experience from healing Lyme and it's complications?


Have you treated your co infections? Which herbal protocol were you on? My oldest daughter and I have late stage chronic lyme and have been treating it in various ways (Rife, FIR, heavy metal detox for me, Byron White and some Cowden herbs, monolaurin, GSE, biofilm enzymes and so on) and it's very much a chess game. We are treating the co infections as well (babesia, bartonella, mycoplasma, etc) and expect to be on the protocol for the next 9 months and then go to Germany for hyperthermia treatment (Dr. Herzog's clinic where the hyperthermia machines can go up to 107 F).

I've done urine therapy in the past. I do not know how long I've had lyme for (probably since I moved here since the strains are local to this area) but I guess the shivambu therapy didn't help me much because I've been on a healing protcol of various sorts the past 10 years (strict diet, detox, far infra red) and I still have issues lol.

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Hi John

I've been suffering from Lyme since oct 2011. I've been through many protocols like F-scan frequency and herbal therapy, distant healing (which had no effect, even had a new outbreak) diet with no dairy or wheat and now I'm on homeopathy also using a "Wellness Wand" that is said to harness Energy of the Universe. I think the Lyme is gone and I have made progress but still have symptoms, spitting phlegm from the sinuses and bronchi, itching eyes, sleeping problems, intestinal irregularities, pinches all over my body indicating fibromyalgia and recurring fatigue although I can feel Ok some days when I hope the tables have turned but symptoms keep recurring.

Do you have any experience from healing Lyme and it's complications?


Have you treated your co infections? Which herbal protocol were you on? My oldest daughter and I have late stage chronic lyme and have been treating it in various ways (Rife, FIR, heavy metal detox for me, Byron White and some Cowden herbs, monolaurin, GSE, biofilm enzymes and so on) and it's very much a chess game. We are treating the co infections as well (babesia, bartonella, mycoplasma, etc) and expect to be on the protocol for the next 9 months and then go to Germany for hyperthermia treatment (Dr. Herzog's clinic where the hyperthermia machines can go up to 107 F).

I've done urine therapy in the past. I do not know how long I've had lyme for (probably since I moved here since the strains are local to this area) but I guess the shivambu therapy didn't help me much because I've been on a healing protcol of various sorts the past 10 years (strict diet, detox, far infra red) and I still have issues lol.

Hi ERK

The therapist who says I have no more Lyme and no coinfections cannot cure this complication which is well described in a document "Lyme and Mold toxins" by Richard Lloyd PhD that you can find on the Internet. The protocol was Magnesium Malate combined with Kudzu, Serrapeptse, Artemisia. The F-scan is a variant of Rife tech with frequencies programmed into a device you buy. I also detox with the device, description in the document. I can make my own colloidal silver with the device but I'm sceptical to take it for longer periods. I also have an infrared sauna.

No one therpist has the whole picture and now I'm on homeopathics. I'm adviced to extract my 2 rootcanals since dead teeth always spread bacteria into the body. This is a big issue for me and noone has been able to tell whether it's bacteria, allergy, autoimmune or a combination.

I've been pondering going to Germany also

[Elainie]

Hi John

I've been suffering from Lyme since oct 2011. I've been through many protocols like F-scan frequency and herbal therapy, distant healing (which had no effect, even had a new outbreak) diet with no dairy or wheat and now I'm on homeopathy also using a "Wellness Wand" that is said to harness Energy of the Universe. I think the Lyme is gone and I have made progress but still have symptoms, spitting phlegm from the sinuses and bronchi, itching eyes, sleeping problems, intestinal irregularities, pinches all over my body indicating fibromyalgia and recurring fatigue although I can feel Ok some days when I hope the tables have turned but symptoms keep recurring.

Do you have any experience from healing Lyme and it's complications?


Have you treated your co infections? Which herbal protocol were you on? My oldest daughter and I have late stage chronic lyme and have been treating it in various ways (Rife, FIR, heavy metal detox for me, Byron White and some Cowden herbs, monolaurin, GSE, biofilm enzymes and so on) and it's very much a chess game. We are treating the co infections as well (babesia, bartonella, mycoplasma, etc) and expect to be on the protocol for the next 9 months and then go to Germany for hyperthermia treatment (Dr. Herzog's clinic where the hyperthermia machines can go up to 107 F).

I've done urine therapy in the past. I do not know how long I've had lyme for (probably since I moved here since the strains are local to this area) but I guess the shivambu therapy didn't help me much because I've been on a healing protcol of various sorts the past 10 years (strict diet, detox, far infra red) and I still have issues lol.

Hi ERK

The therapist who says I have no more Lyme and no coinfections cannot cure this complication which is well described in a document "Lyme and Mold toxins" by Richard Lloyd PhD that you can find on the Internet. The protocol was Magnesium Malate combined with Kudzu, Serrapeptse, Artemisia. The F-scan is a variant of Rife tech with frequencies programmed into a device you buy. I also detox with the device, description in the document. I can make my own colloidal silver with the device but I'm sceptical to take it for longer periods. I also have an infrared sauna.

No one therpist has the whole picture and now I'm on homeopathics. I'm adviced to extract my 2 rootcanals since dead teeth always spread bacteria into the body. This is a big issue for me and noone has been able to tell whether it's bacteria, allergy, autoimmune or a combination.

I've been pondering going to Germany also


I am curious as to how you were tested when te therapist told you no more lyme or co infections? Definitely first thing IMO is always to clean up the mouth, then you can detox the body and all else but if you still have mercury, root canals, etc then other protocols are not likely to succeed. All my years I thought I was ok since I had *detoxed* mercury from my body but I never detoxed it from my brain (the area merc goes to aside from other tissue when you've had amalgams) as blood and hair tests were all coming back normal..............but I still had odd symptoms and many of those symptoms correlated with lyme so last month I had an Assyra scan and it showed I have more heavy metals than a roadside worker and most of those are in my brain along with 6 species of borrelia , babesia behind biofilm and bartonella as well as mycoplasmas........for years I was just labeled under the umbrella term of auto-immune but now thankfully more practitioners are realizing that auto-immune stems from subclinical infections they were't previously testing for.

Mold of course is the issue Klinghardt says you have to treat/alter terrain first before you go after lyme. EMF's would come second and grounding is important.


I agree, no one person has the entire picture. It's complex because it's been bioengineered. I feel it must then be biohacked in order to crack down on it.

I too use homeopathics- the Pekana brand from Germany as well as Physica.

[nenosema]

http://s13.postimg.org/98js3oy87/lyme.png
This is just a snapshot from the pdf Distilled Waters Testimonials linked above

[Elainie]

"Auto-urine therapy was big in Europe before WWII. The kidneys excrete fragments of DNA from the microbes. Drinking this gets the GALT to wake up; the GALT is where 80% of the immune system exists. 1 glass of mid-morning and afternoon urine may be used. A urine nasal spray may be used using a puff twice a day. This downregulates the immune response."

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"Auto-urine therapy was big in Europe before WWII. The kidneys excrete fragments of DNA from the microbes. Drinking this gets the GALT to wake up; the GALT is where 80% of the immune system exists. 1 glass of mid-morning and afternoon urine may be used. A urine nasal spray may be used using a puff twice a day. This downregulates the immune response."

Hi ERK, what do you mean by "mid-morning"? Also responding to your earlier post; the therapist is using a "dowser", I'm not quite certain about his claim i don't have any critters anymore. Anyway there's an Md now in Stockholm who works with a kineseologist and you can get blood tests there, it's expensive but I want to know for sure.

[Elainie]

"Auto-urine therapy was big in Europe before WWII. The kidneys excrete fragments of DNA from the microbes. Drinking this gets the GALT to wake up; the GALT is where 80% of the immune system exists. 1 glass of mid-morning and afternoon urine may be used. A urine nasal spray may be used using a puff twice a day. This downregulates the immune response."

Hi ERK, what do you mean by "mid-morning"? Also responding to your earlier post; the therapist is using a "dowser", I'm not quite certain about his claim i don't have any critters anymore. Anyway there's an Md now in Stockholm who works with a kineseologist and you can get blood tests there, it's expensive but I want to now for sure.



The above quotation is from Dr. Klinghardt. I started back on urine therapy today- used mid morning and mid afternoon urine. Klinghardt uses ART, other practitioners use different testing methods- I use a bioresonance machine called the Assyra to scan the body (one my my ND's has this and uses it). Maybe you can find someone in Sweden who has one, we were astounded at it's accuracy. http://www.asyra.co.uk/contact-us/


Midmorning to me means 10 AM or so. Mid afternoon would be 3 PM.

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Midmorning to me means 10 AM or so. Mid afternoon would be 3 PM.

Ok! I was told you should use only the first morning pee....

[Mari]

Midmorning to me means 10 AM or so. Mid afternoon would be 3 PM.

Ok! I was told you should use only the first morning pee....

In Martha M Christy's 'Your Own Perfect Medicine', she says the first morning pee is the best to drink because its the most concentrated & also to use 'mid-stream urine.

[nenosema]

John Armstrong would cure many people of cancer and gangrene by simply fasting them on nothing but alot of water and all the urine they passed.
I've come across alot of people who 'drink it all' and a fair amount who do the mid-stream thing, it's up to you individually. personally I find it hard to waste any

If one wanted to go into healing.. they may want to switch up their diet to as many raw fruits and vegetable as they can eat, for the time they would like to practice UT. It will make it so much more pleasant and very healing overall. Compresses! The other day I dipped and wrung some yoga pants and shirt in clear urine serum water while just starting to practice yoga. It was nice but chilly, something i'll do again on a warmer day :)

It seems to be the Urea that is doing the healing. Once we take in urine, the Urea in converted into something that does the healing.. I need to do more research into this. So therefore if you're looking for healing the best thing to do would be to loop. Looping is when one continues drinking all or some of the urine passed though the day. Something that's so greatly overlooked with Urine Therapy is that yeah while the morning urine is full of everything and sometimes rather dark in colour, it is good for you and has urea, but, if one were to continue throughout the day to take a cup or even just a sip every pass it becomes very very clear & not unpleasant at all. In this way they'll be getting alot more Urea into their system much easier and faster. John Armstrong's book The Water of Life is one of the best books to look into

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Midmorning to me means 10 AM or so. Mid afternoon would be 3 PM.

Ok! I was told you should use only the first morning pee....

In Martha M Christy's 'Your Own Perfect Medicine', she says the first morning pee is the best to drink because its the most concentrated & also to use 'mid-stream urine.

Ok! Again though what is "mid-stream" :confused:

[nenosema]

Ok! Again though what is "mid-stream" :confused:

"Collect the middle stream of the first morning urine. The small amounts at the beginning and ending of urination do not have to be collected. The first part rinses the urinary passage clean, so the urine will be as sterile as possible. The last part sometimes contains sediment and is of little value.."


This may have most of the information you're looking for, ..good read
http://web.archive.org/web/20120312023439/http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html



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and:http://www.scribd.com/doc/252999446/The-Water-of-Life-Treatise-on-Urine-Therapy-by-John-w-Armstrong-1971#scribd

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Ok! Again though what is "mid-stream" :confused:

"Collect the middle stream of the first morning urine. The small amounts at the beginning and ending of urination do not have to be collected. The first part rinses the urinary passage clean, so the urine will be as sterile as possible. The last part sometimes contains sediment and is of little value.."


This may have most of the information you're looking for, ..good read
http://web.archive.org/web/20120312023439/http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html



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Gosh! This seems to be too good to be true....Do you have personal health improved from this?

[nenosema]

I just want to roll some ideas around and see how they resonate.

We are still discovering the science of this.

Urine therapy isn't the cure all I had thought it was in the beginning, but it does help very much with many "incurable" or difficult to treat" dis eases.

I remember reading alot about mms curing herpes, a virus that I had/have a mild form of where I would break out with weird symmetrical zits that were Not normal despite people telling me herpes doesn't act that way and huge terrible cold sores every few months, the zits were more frequent, and I could definitely tell by the formation little dot like things underneath, like a grid they were, related. The few testimonials I've come across say that it will get worse before it gets better, detoxing it, having lots of real bad breakouts close together etc, making it seem like it's getting worse, but actually is thought to be the way the virus comes out. This makes sense to me. Although at the time I didn't have access to mms, so this is how I found out about urine therapy. I had read about it a couple times through researching herbs and even tried it long before, but only then when absolutely fed up did I look into it more, and remembered this thread.
You can expect a few basic things from this therapy with rubbing on the skin and drinking. soft skin, clearing of acne for many, mood upliftment, wounds heal fast without any scars, bug bites don't itch, not getting colds/flu when everyone else does, wrap a towel around joints before bed and they feel better the next day. teeth whitening, blinding tooth aches beginning to get better after swishing for three minutes, gone in 20!

One testimonial that really threw me was one of a woman with cancer. It was spread absolutely everywhere and she waited for a long time to even get it looked at. Somehow she got in touch with two doctors/healers who daily gave her injections of her own urine. she began to feel better. The sores began erupting and some puss was coming out, the doctors then followed instruction from a uropathy book and took these bodily discharges and injected them deluded the same way they did the urine. Not long after the tumors began releasing all sorts of puss etc furiously and new pink skin was underneath the tumors. This was the only testimonial I've read like this relating to using bodily discharges etc for healing (here is the link (http://www.whale.to/a/urine_therapy_t.html#Terminally_advanced_Breast_Cancer))


One of the best avenues I can imagine for lyme would be herbal treatment + UT
Possibly cats claw or some other arrangement of herbs/roots + ut. & maybe even fasting, or very light raw* meal daily over a decent time period, maybe two months or so..(?)


Another aspect of the science of it is that if someone who eats say tomatoes, and they are causing them headaches. When they practice ut they would still be recycling the thing that gives them headaches. (will add link) Same goes for the other way, if you are missing a nutrient in your diet that you do need and that the body does not produce one will still be missing that nutrient while on ut. It is like an amplifier of the bodies immune system/ability & the holographic second half that you inform and set into motion by the simple action of practice. I can't remember what its called, but when you fast for a time and slowly reintroduce one food item at a time back into your diet to see if it is the cause of something that's wrong, can help alot with this.


Some thing else I find curious is if ebola can be cured by blood transfusions from a person who has been cured, why not other things?? What is the mechanism of action here? Could they be cured if they were to inject or drinking that same healed persons blood serum/urine? I wonder if those who practice Shivambu would not even get ebola & if it is like any virus like the flu (yet deadly er) and on their next cup they are already getting the information /or extra urea & etcs to treat/cure it. Depending on how much they practice possibly not even feeling a single symptom.
Maybe the healing is too strong for people with lyme dis ease to experience the die offs and not getting them out fast enough. Fasting on ut + herbs and flush/cleanse over time and lightly, not full force, imo maybe be the best way for this, but I do not know, please take this idea with a grain of sand as many people have had very strong reaction when trying to get rid of lyme with ut.


I'm sorry, I hadn't researched lyme enough before posting these things.

I'm so glad you have gotten most of this thing out of your system! I hope you'll happen upon the last few things you need to completely heal from this and get rid of these symptoms. Something is telling me roots, vines or stems. -Just a grain of sand. What sort of herbs were you taking to help heal from this, this far? What were some of the most helpful treatments?


From practicing urine therapy.. I've found a calm in my center that I haven't felt in years, due to anxiety. Acne even though I don't apply it every day is nowhere near as bad as it was. It does wonders for my dry skin! I love to wash my hair with it but haven't done it enough to see results. My mother, who by some miracle was open to this & distilled water, quit all her medication and took the herbal root, lol, finally. I notice a lift in her mood when she does a few drops under the tongue. Sometimes she swishes the morning urine for 20 minutes, like oil pulling, it whitens teeth, gives her a dose and pulls like the oil. She's not at the point of drinking or practicing Shivambu everyday yet, but the times her joints get bad she will wrap a soaked towel around and the swelling and pain goes down alot, especially if we do it every night. We're still looking for something to help with the arthritis. A couple of years ago I had some bleeding going on even though I wasn't on my period. Then it became moreso and after ever meal I would bleed. After going to the doctor numerous times they finally gave me an ultrasound and found a small benign cyst in one of my ovaries. After getting it checked much of the bleeding stopped, later it stopped altogether. Almost like it wanted me to know it was there.. Now when I fast on urine (only a few times) I can notice a tingling sensation going on where I imagine the cyst would be and the urine has a slightly more blood-like taste when I reach say day two or three. I believe if I really practiced strongly for long enough, it would get re absorb back into my blood stream/body or dissipate somehow. It seems like it swells at those times of high practice and it gets really hard for me to hold in any of the water for too long so I'm need to constantly urinate and need a cup, which I just can't do all the time, so I haven't taken the time to yet.. These may not be many things, or even cured, but I feel the potential for healing is there, just the ways it's changed my mood means so much. And have gotten sick only once since discovering ut while others around me were. I believe this was a 'break time', and was able to heal that cold really well in two days with pine needle juice. I have had 1 out break since discovering ut and that was actually while I had the and was taking on alot of raw pine needle juice full of pure vitamin c.. It feels like it's just suppressing the breakouts right now, which I'm thankful for, but I would like to, hopefully, get rid of it!
Sorry for the long post

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A cut and paste from a post I made on a Facebook post on sun care...

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I know someone who years ago was at a water park in the south of Russia with 3 other friends... They all had a great time until the evening when they were all sun burnt... very badly. All 4 were going to be very burnt / blistered.

1 of the 4 called their mother who was herbal / natural with health care... Their mum said...

1. Wee in a glass...
2. cover your body / burns with the fresh urine
3. it will sting at first
4. when it stops stinging... wash it off..
5. do not apply other things, repeat above if need be

This person did this... The other 3 said ewww etc etc other "programmed responses" to "your own best medicine" / urine therapy...

the following day, this person was brown and tanned and not sore...

The other 3 who used either 'normal' store bought sun care products or nothing... were **ALL** blistered and burnt still.

Google >>> "Taking the piss: Your own best medicine..." project avalon

Funnily enough >> without the "project avalon" part Google found nothing... the filter bubbling so and so's Hey Google nice try!!!

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Hi John

I've been suffering from Lyme since oct 2011. I've been through many protocols like F-scan frequency and herbal therapy, distant healing (which had no effect, even had a new outbreak) diet with no dairy or wheat and now I'm on homeopathy also using a "Wellness Wand" that is said to harness Energy of the Universe. I think the Lyme is gone and I have made progress but still have symptoms, spitting phlegm from the sinuses and bronchi, itching eyes, sleeping problems, intestinal irregularities, pinches all over my body indicating fibromyalgia and recurring fatigue although I can feel Ok some days when I hope the tables have turned but symptoms keep recurring.

Do you have any experience from healing Lyme and it's complications?

Hi Transiten,
I have not had experience of treating lyme. This guy has however and his shows on One Radio Network may be worth listening to.

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/dr-steve-hines-on-the-morning-show-with-patrick-timpone-july-22/

Have you tried Urine Therapy at all?

I am also open to having a distant healing session via Skype with you as not all distant healing is the same... the testimonials are on my website.

What have you tried?

ps sorry for the late reply I do not regularly use PA once every so often. Best to email me or contact via Facebook if you use it.

[sunfruitdan]

The benefits of urine therapy and how to perform it

I have been asked by multiple people many times about urine therapy and if i perform it, i explain in this video that i have done it for over 4 years and i share all of the information on the healing benefits of urine therapy and how you can go about performing it correctly.

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[sunfruitdan]

How to perform urine therapy whilst healing with turpentine

Quite a few people have asked me can you practice urine therapy whilst healing with turpentine? In this video i explain how you can still perform it whilst taking turpentine in a safe way.

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[Connecting with Sauce]

Dan, talking about looping.. Thanks Dan.

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[sunfruitdan]

The benefits of Urine enemas, how to perform them and my experience with them!

I wanted to share with everyone in this video information on urine enemas, the amazing benefits on them, how to perform them, what they have done for my health and much more!

Urine is your own perfect medicine designed by your body just for you.

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Interview with Sun Fruit Dan on Urine Therapy - Drinking Waste & Morgellons Fibers

Tasha Lee (Fruitful Healthy Living) Interviewed me (Sun Fruit Dan) on Urine Therapy - Drinking Waste, Morgellons Fibers, FAQ, Regrowing teeth, Pharmaceuticals contain urine constituents and much more!

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[Mike]

Hi Sunfruitdan, don't have much time these days, so watching the whole video would be tough. Could you please summarize your advice on regrowing teeth? Thanks!

[sunfruitdan]

WHY I DRUNK ALL OF MY URINE EVERYDAY FOR 2 YEARS! - URINE THERAPY

So i wanted to share with everyone why i drunk all of my urine for around 2 years! Yes you heard right all of it for two years!

I learnt about urine therapy back in 2013 and it completely blew my mind as its an amazing healing modality that is completely free, i explain in this video why its such a powerful healer and much more.

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