Bill Ryan will be in Vilcabamba in July with Inelia and Brian O'Leary

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear Friends,

This is a very preliminary announcement - tentative, but we believe this will happen - for a one-day seminar workshop at Brian O'Leary's beautiful retreat (http://montesuenos.org) in Vilcabamba, Ecuador, probably in the first or second week or July.


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The role of spirit to transform a world in crisis
The application of our inborn power to change reality


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Cost $95. Presenting the workshop with me would be Avalon's own Inelia. For those of you unfamiliar with her, word is gradually spreading about the remarkable interview I did with her and which will be released next month.

I made an announcement about this here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17722-Update-on-Project-Avalon-interviews-Bill-Ryan&p=190759&viewfull=1#post190759

Please do also read the following posts here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17722-Update-on-Project-Avalon-interviews-Bill-Ryan&p=190777&viewfull=1#post190777), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17722-Update-on-Project-Avalon-interviews-Bill-Ryan&p=190779&viewfull=1#post190779), here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17722-Update-on-Project-Avalon-interviews-Bill-Ryan&p=190792&viewfull=1#post190792) and here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17722-Update-on-Project-Avalon-interviews-Bill-Ryan&p=190909&viewfull=1#post190909), in which several of the moderators, who I asked to take a look at the rough cut of the unpublished 15 minute trailer, added their feedback.

It may create quite a lot of interest when it's published. :) Scroll down to the bottom of this post to read some preliminary comments.

In our many conversations, Inelia and I have discovered that we have a closely complementary view of a broad spectrum of spiritual, personal and physical reality. We're starting to make a strong team - our mission being to catalyze significant transformation both individually and globally. This is a major project... which starts with this small event in Vilcabamba.

Inelia and I have been working in this area separately, and in very different ways, for most of our lives: in Inelia's case, since she was a small child - an inspiring personal journey she shares in her interview.

In this whole-day workshop - which will act as a pilot for many to follow - we will each in our own way teach, share, guide, interact, lead, and inspire. The common denominator is the human race, the human spirit, and the human potential... both individually and as a species.

I want to be a little careful about over-promoting here, but the experience may be one capable of effecting significant personal change.

For my part, all of Camelot and Avalon's work will be touched on... and the critical question asked: Where are we, who are we, and what do we do next?

For her part, Inelia will lead a number of process-oriented experiences which will support the process of personal transformation. As Inelia herself states clearly, the remarkable abilities she has demonstrated since childhood are everyone's birthright.

And my good friend Dr Brian O'Leary will no doubt be saying a word or two about a subject just as close to his heart as Free Energy - the limitless potential of the human race.

That's enough for now: we'll each say much more about this later.

What would be valuable to know would be: who would be interested in attending this event? Please vote on the poll above, and make any comments you like.


I have had the opportunity to a watch a small preview of Inelia's interview. And even though I have seen only a small part of it I can comment that this interview is not only "the most interesting" but the most important and most empowering interview so far. I can hardly wait for the full video to be published...

You all probably know from hers and Bill's posts that Inelia has very powerful abilities. Part of the interview is about those abilities, but Inelia also has an important message to share with us, an empowering message.

I know I am using big words here, one after another, but I am deeply impressed and moved by what I've seen so far from this video.



With respect to Inelia's forthcoming video: this is the one of the most interesting interviews I've ever done (which I'm well aware is saying quite something). Based on initial responses, one or two of the mods team who've kindly focus-tested a rough cut preview may say a word or two in agreement.

:)

Wait 'til you find out how much of an understatement that is! :~)

One thing I've noticed in life is that the truly extraordinary people want to remind us that they are ordinary - at least "ordinary" in the sense that it is within the capabilities of every human being to be what we would certainly think of as extraordinary.

In the ordinary sense of the word "ordinary", Inelia is certainly extraordinary. But part of Inelia's message to us all is that what we now see as extraordinary is attainable - actually and honestly attainable by "ordinary" humans. It will be good to remember that, to embrace that, as we hear more from Inelia.

I have no intent to be enigmatic. Your reactions (to getting to know Inelia a little bit) will be your own reactions, and I'm simply stating that, based on my reactions, it is quite likely you'll need to explore some of the concepts you use to define the "ordinary/extraordinary", and trust that your potential really is untapped - so far.

Dennis


Many thanks to Bill and Inelia for their never ending efforts in preparation for the upcoming Interview(s). And many humble thanks to Inelia for her decision to bring her extraordinary insight to Avalon.

I can say for certain that I am overwhelmingly inspired by what I have seen so far, and I am on the edge of my seat, waiting for what is to come. We have all come to Avalon to explore and understand a deeper, more resonating connection to ourselves and the universe.

We are being guided on our paths by our humble spokesperson and earpiece, Bill. And we never tire of the discussions about the Interviews and the Truth and Knowledge that Bill has always brought to the table.

I have been given a sneak peak into the content of, what I believe, to be the Greatest Contribution to Project Avalon and especially the Project Avalon Community. I am overjoyed to be a part of this community, and I am truly at the edge of my seat.

I hope you are all ready for some of the best stuff Bill Ryan has ever brought to the table. What a wonderful time to be an Avalonian. I want to end with a thank you in advance to Bill and Inelia for their time and efforts in the upcoming challenges.

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[Flyswim]

Hi Bill,

I notice in the poll you do not have an option for No Thanks - maybe you are just ascertaining interest at this stage. I only vaguely remember Inelia via the Charles stuff - he concluded she was an innocent re her Lucifer has left the building comment. Other than that, who is she exactly? What extraordinary abilities does she have and why should I care? I think I've had my fill of 'this is the MOST important...' etc.

I hope you have a good time in Peru but my days of paying for abilities - however latent - have passed me by. I don't wish to be disruptive with this comment just direct in my opinion.

Obliged.

[Amenjo]

Hi Bill,

Sounds like a fantastic idea, unfortunately I will not be able to get the funds together to attend this workshop.

Will you be doing a similar thing in the UK at some point? There are many retreats here that I am sure would welcome your involvement.

Perhaps you could get intouch with Lammas a group promoting permaculture in the UK.

http://www.lammas.org.uk/lowimpact/index.htm

Anyway I wish the both of you the best of luck on this venture,

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

[Bill Ryan]

What extraordinary abilities does she have?

More than I'd ever thought possible in any human being.


...and why should I care?

Maybe you don't! And that's fine. The message for us all is that these gifts are dormant within every one of us.

I've gained some of these abilities myself simply by being in Inelia's presence. But it's not about magic tricks - it's about spiritual transformation. This is the focus that makes a difference to the world.

[K626]

The energy in Germany is fantastic/in flux right now. Nudge, nudge...wink..wink.

K

[Gone001]

It would be nice to see Canada as an Option.

[grapevine]

I'd ADORE to go, except that I'm in the same position as Amenjo above unless I win the lottery between now and then. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Bill's interview with Inelia - even before the Mod's comments (I'm wound up taut as a bowstring now :)) - and wonder whether the release of this interview is intended to time with something else ....? Is there any possibility that we can see the preliminary 'rushes' that the Mods have seen right now? Inelia looks beautiful and she also looks familiar for some strange reason. Does anyone else agree ....?

Anyhow, waiting with bated breath for the interview .... :)

[lightblue]

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there isn't an option for "NO regardless" - i imagine besides me other people have their plans already set for july....:wink: l

[DevilPigeon]

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I concur with the sentiment of having an event in the UK at some point..!

[Calz]

Wow ... Brian's home looks right out of a fairy tale :)

As much as I would love to travel to Ecuador ... no can do.

I expect there is a high level of interest but scattered globally.

Any chance on videotaping the seminar (beyond the video you are already editing)? I expect many would even be happy to purchase in helping to raise funds for Avalon and your (our) cause.

Cal

[tkh123186]

I would love to attend however I don't think my currently family / financial situation would allow me to do so! If I were to attend I would think Peru would be an excellent place... maybe make a detour to Machu Picchu? :cool:

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Thanks Bill,
I'm really looking forward to seeing the interview, thank you to you and Inelia for all your efforts.:)
I would dearly love to attend the workshop but due to funds would only be able to attend if it was in the U.K :-(

Take care mate

Hurritt

[buffski]

Very tempting, shouldn't be a problem getting there as I live in Devon :)
We have a lot of workshops here too, unfortunately the ones that only those with a lot of spare cash can avail themselves of.
I guess an important workshop such as this, and the tools for spiritual transformation that are on offer, will be made freely available to us impoverished members too at some point.
Mind you, I can understand why you would wish it to be in Vilcabamba, it is truly a wonderful area.

Give my regards to San Pedro :)

Buffski

[Tommy]

Hi Bill,

This is certainly of interest, but for my part doing a trip from Norway to Peru in July would be a little too expensive. I am saving my funds to head over to the US in September for the 2011 Awake and Aware conference (if we find a proper venue that is).

If you decide to do this in Europe I will be sure to attend though :)

Thanks, looking forward to seeing the Inelia interview, I've heard good things about her from a common friend :)

All the best,

Tommy

[Njord]

I have problems getting into the US due to my "career", so random trips to the states is difficult for me.
Would have loved going to Vilcabamba too.

If it was anyplace in Europe, I would be there. Even if I personally hope for a Norwegian Seminar some day :o

[SKAWF]

well.....

its a nice little demo of the human spirit,
no matter how often it gets knocked down, it gets back up again.
i say fair play to that.

the 'why should i care' attitude isnt helpful though.

imagine being a guest in someones house,
they make an announcement about something they are doing,
and one of the guests says 'why should i care?'.

i thought it was a given,
we are on a path, searching for truth.
thats why you should care.

i watched interviews, i havnt like the subject or the interviewee.
but more often than not, there will be a little pearl of info in there that will stay with me,
and that makes the whole thing worthwhile.

as for the event, i'm more than interested, but i can't stretch to global travel at this point.

switzerland would be nice

somewhere picturesque, but not too distracting.

steve

[astrid]

Excellent project, and i would dearly love to go.
But very long way for me, will have a think about it.
Maybe i can plan it into a bigger trip.

Very exciting though, great idea and amazing venue.

[ann444]

It would be nice to see Canada as an Option.

Could we get a side trip to the Galapagos? I'd be willing to spend the money to get to SA if that was possible.

[Siberia9]

I think I would all ready be there if I had the dough. About a month ago I priced the tickets and circled that area on the map for a permanent/semi perm move for some reason. However the monetary slave system we are in has shut down my income streams, so we have'nt been able to put the money together.If that changes I guess Im in. This seems to be a common theme here. Perhaps this should be addressed somewhere on here. Its easier for a group to make money than one at a time, just an idea.

[cowens66]

I would love to go to Vilacabamba. There are a lot of aware people moving there. Mike Adams from Natural News has a place there too.

But alas, flying is one of my least favorite things to do :( and obligations at home would also make it very difficult for me.

Is there a chance Bill, that you would make a trip to the eastern half of the US some time? :)

Just a thought; people might be able to make a more informed decision if it were possible to see the interview with Inelia befor answering this poll.

[Newlyn]

Wow. The syncronisity! :D

I feel deep joy inside of me right now! I don't have the funds, but if I am supposed to be there I will have them in time. I will start travel now, and I will move towards South America. Maybe I'll see you there!

And the sun! xD

[Inelia]

Yes, the plan is that we are going to be in Ecuador in July, the first two weeks (we need to confirm with Brian if this is possible). And, while there we will do the pilot seminar. If this pilot format something that we find to be effective in the main goal of our joining forces, then we will do the same seminar in other locations too.

Bill is highly qualified in doing this type of work, he has the skills, experience and spirit to create and lead fantastic seminars and workshops. He is also highly inspirational and a huge role model. My role is that of support, holding space, as it were, group exercises where the flow is reversed (from listening to talking - from verbal expression to silence). The details of it have not been discussed to any degree yet. Why Ecuador? It's a beautiful, life force full setting, and we are going to be there sometime this summer regardless.

Other possible locations in the future: the UK, Spain, very possible, Canada (always wanted to go there), USA of course... but take into account that we do not have the financial or organizational structure in place to offer these locations by ourselves, so the locations are presently limited to where we are going to be at any particular point in time. Unless, of course you are willing to organise and/or sponsor one yourself in your particular location, in which case it becomes a lot more flexible.

[ulli]

A few months before I became a member of Avalon I had watched an interview with Dr. Brian O'Leary which was done at his farm in Ecuador. I had met him several times before in Costa Rica and I really love the man. I heard his talk at the Unity Church, went to several lunches given in his honour, and even got to sit next to him during an energy congress hosted by the National Water Authority of Costa Rica where he was a guest speaker. He boldly went into subjects that none of the organizers had expected to hear about, I'm sure.
Anyway, I made a wish back then that if there was ever a seminar at his place I would love to go.
I must say, I'm very happy at seeing my wish become a possibility so soon. Presented on a platter by Bill Ryan, no less.

[Bob_2011]

Other possible locations in the future : the UK,

Southend On Sea, is a lovely place, they do some nice fish and chips there. and if we stop for a break we could pop across the road for a go on the whirlitzer,:plane:

[Bill Ryan]

.... unless, of course you are willing to organise and/or sponsor one yourself in your particular location, in which case it becomes a lot more flexible.

Here's a proposal. :)

Get together a small groundcrew to make it happen, cover our travel expenses, and we will be there - to do whatever's needed. (Experimental format at the moment, to be piloted in Vilcabamba as Inelia clarified.)

Even meeting with 20 people in a small room. If our expenses are 100% covered, it's all cool. If there are any proceeds in surplus, then please make a donation.

Some of this is putting the cart before the horse, though. You've not yet seen the trailer of Inelia's video. And for my own list of topics, here's my November 2009 'Freedom Central' interview:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ




Click here (http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Camelot_Freedom_Central_16_Nov_2009.mp4) to download the video (MP4)
Click here (http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Ryan_Project_Camelot_Freedom_Central_16_Nov_2009.mp3) to download the audio (MP3)
Click here (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bill_ryan_freedom_central_interview_en.html) for the transcript

Very broad itinerary:




Existence - seen as the Greatest Game there is
The generation and persistence of the Matrix Reality
God, You, Me, and Us - who we all really are, and how we got to be that way
Who or what has been spoiling the game, how, and why
Why we don't know the truth, and our own responsibility in what we experience
The past, possible futures, and parallel timelines
The role of high technology and the control grid
What ETs and ultradimensional beings are doing
The role of Planet Earth
How and why most of us lost our abilities
The current consciousness shift
What is possible
What is at stake
What we all can do.

If that doesn't excite you, nothing will. :)

[quench]

I would like to attend but since I have no passport or not enough spare cash to get to Ecuador it's a bit awkward. Is it possible for there to be a video of the event available for purchase afterwards?

[ace]

This is giving me flash back's to my school days..

"sorry sir, my mum said I can't go swimming today, as my trunks are still wet from last week"

What bus goes to Vilcabamba?

Best wishes with the project.

Regards
Ace

[manny]

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[Inelia]

Hi Manny,

Watch the Freedom Central interview posted by Bill in this thread, in it he says:

"Whatever it is that you feel drawn to do at this moment, then that could be what it is that you’re here to do. Be smart, be careful, check things out with people, be aware for all the tricks you possibly can do, but follow your instinct. If you spend all your time trying to think it out logically, you’re not going to get anywhere. You’ve got to jump off the cliff. The angels will catch you because the angels are real. "

You can read it here: http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bill_ryan_freedom_central_interview_en.html

It is very important that you follow YOUR OWN COUNCIL on this. And not look for someone else to convince you. If it doesn't feel right to you, it's because it is not right for you.

Edit: as to proof, both Bill and myself are wide open and you can find plenty of our material on the net, independently from each other. As to proof of what we can offer together, this is a "pilot" offering.

Pilot = "original: something that serves as a model or a basis for making copies" and "A pilot experiment, also called a pilot study, is a small scale preliminary study conducted before the main research in order to check the feasibility or to improve the design of the research."

[sandy]

Dear Bill and Inelia,

The travel and accommodation expenses would be immense from Canada, for a 1 day seminar. This does not make sense logically or economically. If the seminar could be incorporated into a week or more daily events conference at Brian's Beautiful Oasis ( checked out it's wonder on his website) then I would be interested in attending. Are there any thoughts in this area of planning??

[manny]

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[Inelia]

Dear Bill and Inelia,

The travel and accommodation expenses would be immense from Canada, for a 1 day seminar. This does not make sense logically or economically. If the seminar could be incorporated into a week or more daily events conference at Brian's Beautiful Oasis ( checked out it's wonder on his website) then I would be interested in attending. Are there any thoughts in this area of planning??

Hi Sandy,

We plan to go for 2 weeks, one day would be insane, we'd be exhausted! The plan is to go exploring and simply bask in the area, which is renowned for its lifeforce. Can you fit it into an annual holiday type scenario? If Brian was offering more activities for the rest of the week, that would be very cool indeed. It's wide open at the moment.

[Tangri]

I would like to see the seminar option at Canada.

[Bill Ryan]

if you know something then share it.


That's the whole idea. We're going to do that. :)

Being there in person will always give very significant, hands-on added personal value. Ask anyone who's ever attended one of David Icke's events.

But for those who cannot travel - no passport, no money, no work (or too much work!), family commitments, fear of flying, or earth/geopolitical changes - then that's what the internet is for.

[manny]

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[manny]

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[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I would be interested in visiting Equador and attending the seminar.
Having spent time in Peru with Alberto Villoldo and the Four Winds group, I acknowledge the power of place when one is connecting with self, Earth, and higher energies. The mountains in South America are incredible.At this point, it does seem to be about awakening that which is sleeping inside and allowing the "new human" to manifest. It is so personal, but it is always easier with the support of like minded people. Traveling that far for one day, however, seems extreme. Will there be a bit of an extended timeline if we wish to arrive early or stay late?
Thank you for presenting this opportunity.
Namaste.

[Bill Ryan]

so why not just share what you believe now.
and those who want to get together do so.
so everyones happy,;)

Hi, Manny -

The interview with Inelia will be released next month. Her new website needs to be ready first, and we still have a little more to add to the video.

In the meantime, have you watched or listened to my Freedom Central interview already? (That's the video I embedded here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18027-Bill-Ryan-will-be-in-Vilcabamba-in-July-with-Inelia-and-Brian-O-Leary&p=194051&viewfull=1#post194051)) If not, there's a good start.

But... surely you're not saying that we should not give any seminars just because you're unable to travel? :)

We want everyone to win. That means everyone. This new thread was just to test interest, make a preliminary announcement, share our thoughts and plans on an 'open source' basis, answer questions, and enable dialogues like this. :)

The process has actually started for you, you see.

[sandy]

Dear Bill and Inelia,

The travel and accommodation expenses would be immense from Canada, for a 1 day seminar. This does not make sense logically or economically. If the seminar could be incorporated into a week or more daily events conference at Brian's Beautiful Oasis ( checked out it's wonder on his website) then I would be interested in attending. Are there any thoughts in this area of planning??

Hi Sandy,

We plan to go for 2 weeks, one day would be insane, we'd be exhausted! The plan is to go exploring and simply bask in the area, which is renowned for its lifeforce. Can you fit it into an annual holiday type scenario? If Brian was offering more activities for the rest of the week, that would be very cool indeed. It's wide open at the moment.

Dear Inelia,

I would have to have an idea of what the costs for two weeks of basically vacationing would be as budget reality begs I investigate thoroughly. It sounds like You and Bill are basically jumping of the cliff so to speak. As a single/female senior with no traveling companion, I'm sorry to say I don't have the courage to jump by myself! (I'm not nor have been much of a worldly traveler).

More interested in the spiritual growth aspect thus hoping for a longer retreat type event. I learn by experiencing. Seeing and hearing create an intellectual understanding but somehow without the experiential side of it I remain locked in the mind with the knowledge but not the wisdom.

I'm really tired of New Age and Feel Good seminars and really need something substantial to help me journey into the realms of all that is!!!

[Tangri]

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Maybe you can consider a different location for the future seminar.

Love and Peace

[Inelia]

Dear Inelia,

I would have to have an idea of what the costs for two weeks of basically vacationing would be as budget reality begs I investigate thoroughly. It sounds like You and Bill are basically jumping of the cliff so to speak. As a single/female senior with no traveling companion, I'm sorry to say I don't have the courage to jump by myself! (I'm not nor have been much of a worldly traveler).

More interested in the spiritual growth aspect thus hoping for a longer retreat type event. I learn by experiencing. Seeing and hearing create an intellectual understanding but somehow without the experiential side of it I remain locked in the mind with the knowledge but not the wisdom.

I'm really tired of New Age and Feel Good seminars and really need something substantial to help me journey into the realms of all that is!!!

This feedback is very useful! Thank you :)

I totally understand your position. It would be very exciting to organise a whole week where none of us will be left out of the loop. Do you have any suggestions on how this might map out?

Links for Vicabamba and Monte Sueños: http://www.montesuenos.org/

[manny]

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[sandy]

Thank you for the chance to dialogue Inelia,

I spent most of my career as an Experiential Trainer and truly know the value of immersion, so appreciate your interest very much.

I thought that maybe You and Bill could collaborate with Brian seeing as he has the retreat facilities and is in the business of offering such to people. I may be wrong and he only offers his own seminars. However, if not, then maybe the three of you could create an opportunity for a week or so event that is designed to facilitate experiences that validate consciousness for those needing to "KNOW" not just comprehend. A win/win for everyone!

This would be enlightening to say the least, move many to further creations, create possible opportunities for others to pass on the experience through continued experiential retreats, etc. I also wrote several experiential training programs during my career, as once experienced I'm able to recreate such in a training environment. I'm a Certified Life Skills Coach and Trainer of Coaches thus envision a chance to give back and help in some way as I let my thoughts run rampant right now. Babbling so will end for now and hope this is the type of feedback you were looking for.

[manny]

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[sandy]

Beautiful Manny,

Thanks :)

[manny]

i am sorry,
i am not one to judge or know how one will receive their enlightenment or awareness.
we will all receive it when we are ready,whether it be at a workshop or over the internet.
or on a personal level.

to all that go to Inelia,s and bills workshop,the most important thing is to enjoy yourself.

love

[Lord Sidious]

676167626760

Maybe you can consider a different location for the future seminar.

Love and Peace

Cappadocia would be great.
We could explore the underground cities and even have part/s of the seminar down there.
Imagine that on video!
You know what else would be good?
If we ever got a hint from Bill about Avalon Radio, we could stream things live from anywhere that people have the net handy.

[soulsinger]

Hmm, this feels very right to me, intuitively, and seems useful to me. I have no desire to visit Vilcabamba, so I won't attend there. But if you give this workshop in a location that appeals / seems appropriate for me, I will attend.

I think this is a good idea. :-)

[Spirithorse]

Hi Bill,

Sounds like a fantastic idea, unfortunately I will not be able to get the funds together to attend this workshop.

Will you be doing a similar thing in the UK at some point? There are many retreats here that I am sure would welcome your involvement.

Perhaps you could get intouch with Lammas a group promoting permaculture in the UK.

http://www.lammas.org.uk/lowimpact/index.htm

Anyway I wish the both of you the best of luck on this venture,

Love and Truth,

Amenjo


Hi Amenjo,

That's a great idea, I would love to be part of that.
I'm in the UK and also trying (with a small group of friends) to set up a self-sufficient community with emphasis on nature (permaculture) and spirituality. - The main problem here is to get the necessary finances together...
People who are aware and know what's to come don't have the money, and the ones with it don't see a necessity for change.

I actually joined Avalon with the hope to find like-minded people with the sincere wish to make a difference for the planet and our future.

I'm more than happy to assist with my time and skills a to get something underway.

Such seminar work could connect people on a physical level and get things started. We need to move from the virtual to the physical, let's get practical now.

I'm glad to be here at Avalon, thank you all for your input.

[Professor]

Wow ... Brian's home looks right out of a fairy tale :)

As much as I would love to travel to Ecuador ... no can do.

I expect there is a high level of interest but scattered globally.

Any chance on videotaping the seminar (beyond the video you are already editing)? I expect many would even be happy to purchase in helping to raise funds for Avalon and your (our) cause.

Cal

I agree with all you've said.

I would love to be able to attend, but alas, I am still entwined in the money game. Just can't make it happen. Purchasing DVDs of the workshops would be something I could afford, would love to do to support Project Avalon and the cause as well as helping myself.

[Davidallany]

It would be nice to see Canada as an Option.
I would love to go to Ecuador, but it's over $1000 just for the ticket.

[Bill Ryan]

It would be nice to see Canada as an Option.
I would love to go to Ecuador, but it's over $1000 just for the ticket.

Certainly too much for a seminar! But when Kerry and I held our Camelot Conference there in January 2009, 70 people showed up having traveled from as far afield as Canada, Europe and Australia. And we put it all on the internet later (41,000 views) for those who couldn't come.

A two week vacation might cost $2000 per person all in... but actually, that's what many couples spend going to Cancun or Majorca or Dubai or Bali for a break.

Those who attended also came to visit enjoy a vacation, and many of them were checking out Ecuador as a potential country to relocate to if things got tough elsewhere in the world. In that regard Vilcabamba is probably one of the top 10 choices out there for well-resourced and affordable alternative expat communities.

[Davidallany]

Davidallany:
It would be nice to see Canada as an Option.
I would love to go to Ecuador, but it's over $1000 just for the ticket.Bill:
Certainly too much for a seminar! But when Kerry and I held our Camelot Conference there in January 2009, 70 people showed up having traveled from as far afield as Canada, Europe and Australia. And we put it all on the internet later (41,000 views) for those who couldn't come.

A two week vacation might cost $2000 per person all in... but actually, that's what many couples spend going to Cancun or Majorca or Dubai or Bali for a break.

Those who attended also came to visit enjoy a vacation, and many of them were checking out Ecuador as a potential country to relocate to if things got tough elsewhere in the world. In that regard Vilcabamba is probably one of the top 10 choices out there for well-resourced and affordable alternative expat communities.Understood Bill, thank you for explaining and hope to see you there :)
Cheers

[andrewgreen]

Its a geographically expensive and time consuming area to get to. If its successful though it going to be the first of many?

[Bill Ryan]

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Its a geographically expensive and time consuming area to get to. If its successful though it going to be the first of many?

Yes. :)

[doodah]

Bill and Inelia,

This is great! I love that you are bringing two different aspects together, not only information about the world / cosmic situation at present but personal growth aspects in terms of structured experiences at the event. It's a great combo and much needed, it seems to me. I love that the audience gets invited to participate, a thing that is usually lacking or only gets expression in Question and Answer sessions.

For myself $2000 for a week at Vilcabamba is out of range financially. But maybe ground crews can get the dates, places, travel arranged for a (US) East Coast event and a West Coast event? Energetically I would love to see something done in the Black Hills, South Dakota area, or near Bar Harbor on the coast of Maine, or somewhere around the Cherokee lands in North Carolina in the US. Although I am in the U.S. I'm not located in those areas, but if ground crew from those areas can use my assistance in any way, please PM me.

I know you'd have to think deeply about selling a DVD of your Vilcabamba pilot-run, as that would be a change of your policy on these things. You have always offered everything for free, which has been a blessing for us all, but if you wanted to sell a DVD of this I don't think that would seem too mercenary...

[astrid]

I'm thinking it might be better to try and get together an Aussie group, so we can hold one here.
As much as i love to come, 29-44 hours on a plane, each way, its not sounding that much fun.

Especially considering i have never flown before internationally.
That said, part of me wants to go for it, but another part is saying lets get a group together so more Aussies can be involved.....

And of course we have many beautiful places here too, Bryon Bay anyone??

Can i please have a idea of any other Aussies that might be interested??
Pm me, and lets see if we can get a list together.

Maybe even a combined Aus/NZ event , seeing we have also quite a few Kiwis here.

Blessings,

Astrid

[Gone001]

.... unless, of course you are willing to organise and/or sponsor one yourself in your particular location, in which case it becomes a lot more flexible.

Here's a proposal. :)

Get together a small groundcrew to make it happen, cover our travel expenses, and we will be there - to do whatever's needed. (Experimental format at the moment, to be piloted in Vilcabamba as Inelia clarified.)

Even meeting with 20 people in a small room. If our expenses are 100% covered, it's all cool. If there are any proceeds in surplus, then please make a donation.


I could get behind that depending on the feedback from the test meet in Vilcabamba. I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to get together a group in Toronto. If we could learn about these abilities and how to re-ignite these dormant traits it would be well worth it but everything else on that list-

* Existence - seen as the Greatest Game there is
* The generation and persistence of the Matrix Reality
* God, You, Me, and Us - who we all really are, and how we got to be that way
* Who or what has been spoiling the game, how, and why
* Why we don't know the truth, and our own responsibility in what we experience
* The past, possible futures, and parallel timelines
* The role of high technology and the control grid
* What ETs and ultradimensional beings are doing
* The role of Planet Earth
* How and why most of us lost our abilities
* The current consciousness shift
* What is possible
* What is at stake
* What we all can do.

-is pretty much out there. Interest on most of those topics would be generated based on people putting stake in Bill and Inelia's perspective on the for mentioned topics. Anyway I look forward to hearing any feedback after a test run.

Cheers,

Aldous

[Jetsam]

I'm seriously thinking about going, but I have never flown before, so I'm a bit nervous!

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I was introduced to Brian via his Camelot interview and was impressed with him, so I checked out his retreat at that time and thought: Wow, that's my dream vacation!

So, it's probably now or never for me. Timing is off as I have an important meeting in late July that I have to prepare for, so August would be better, but I'm considering it yet.

Anyone else going from U.S. - we could meet up in Miami (or?) and travel the rest of the way together.

[elysian]

I would love to go. But I would need a lot of details before I can feel secure enough to go. Like how to get there for once. I mean finding a flight to Ecuador I think I can do but then what. Wave a flag when I get there? ;)

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

I believe you must fly to Quito, then take the local airline TAME to Loja. From there, it appears to be about a thirty minute taxi ride (or perhaps it's possible to arrange for a car or transfer). Hope this helps! :)

[GCS1103]

I would love to go. Please let us know when you have more definite dates and details.

[NxTLvL34]

I don't have a job. I have been unemployed since September. I also have a 9 year old daughter to support. Unfortunately my last vacation was in 2003 when I went to Sedona Arizona with my parents. I can barely afford groceries and gas for my car is $70 to fill up.

I would love very much to be there but just can't do much of anything in this financial state I'm in. It makes me feel very sad to miss out on this.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I can say that when you are in Inelia's presence, it is a presence that you can feel. Yes, she's human to the extent that any of us are (well maybe a bit less so in her case) but it's kind of like while you are sitting with a humble and kind woman, you are sitting also with a star or some other grand celestial body with eons of wisdom behind it. I don't mean to fawn, I am just describing how it feels. At least for me.

I'd say more, but let's wait for the interview.

If you have the means to attend this event, by all means go for it. I'm sure it will be unforgettable. The rest of us can send our good thoughts for everyone to have a fun and growing experience.

[Bill Ryan]

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These posts by Inelia on the DNA thread might be interesting for potential seminar attendees to read. Highly recommended.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18116-Eating-animal-products-will-shut-down-your-dna&p=194845#post194845
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18116-Eating-animal-products-will-shut-down-your-dna&p=194860#post194860
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18116-Eating-animal-products-will-shut-down-your-dna&p=195185#post195185

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I would love to go. But I would need a lot of details before I can feel secure enough to go. Like how to get there for once. I mean finding a flight to Ecuador I think I can do but then what. Wave a flag when I get there? ;)

If you go to Brian O'Leary's website http://www.montesuenos.org/ and scroll down to Frequently asked questions, he goes into detail as to how to get there, and if that isn't enough info for you, I'm sure if you email him (his contact info also on his website) I'm sure he'd be pleased to answer any further questions you might have. Hope we both make it, along with many others.

[kooky]

I personally think Glasgow Scotland is the ideal place for such a seminar. Great history, great culture, great people.

[Lord Sidious]

I personally think Glasgow Scotland is the ideal place for such a seminar. Great history, great culture, great people.

What do ya reckon? We send some of the attendees to Ibrox in Celtic shirts and tell em to play the Wolfe Tones?

[kooky]

Of course not. I know what your trying to do. Your trying to be funny. Again someone who maybe can't attend any of the seminars is trying to be negative to put other people off going. Your in Palestine, i'm sure you've heard of Glasgow. I'm sure many people would love to come here and spend some time, not only are you getting to go to the seminar but your getting a wonderful holiday and i'm sure the cost of a holiday here isn't much and besides, there is enough of a demand in the UK as it is. There wouldn't be a shortage of people showing up and of course Scotland has a tremendous history which can be related to many topics in Avalon and this can be discussed at the seminar. Maybe they could do a seminar in Palestine? No one know what countries they are thinking about. I just figured i would take the leap of faith, extend the olive branch of support and throw my city in the ring for towns to be considered.

[Lord Sidious]

Of course not. I know what your trying to do. Your trying to be funny. Again someone who maybe can't attend any of the seminars is trying to be negative to put other people off going. Your in Palestine, i'm sure you've heard of Glasgow. I'm sure many people would love to come here and spend some time, not only are you getting to go to the seminar but your getting a wonderful holiday and i'm sure the cost of a holiday here isn't much and besides, there is enough of a demand in the UK as it is. There wouldn't be a shortage of people showing up and of course Scotland has a tremendous history which can be related to many topics in Avalon and this can be discussed at the seminar. Maybe they could do a seminar in Palestine? No one know what countries they are thinking about. I just figured i would take the leap of faith, extend the olive branch of support and throw my city in the ring for towns to be considered.

Keep your hair on, that was a bit of humour.
I am not in Palestine, I have that up in sympathy for their plight.
And I have Scots heritage, so I am aware of the history.

[kooky]

Everyone probably has a Scottish heritage. Our people visited all over the planet, repopulating where needed. Us Scottish men do our work! Don't be surprised to see huge support for my suggestion. Huge demand for Glasgow.

[Mr54]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................

[Amenjo]

Hi Bill,

I am quite suprised that more people haven't voted on this poll. There are many people that I know that would jump at the chance to go to your workshop.

I live on the Isle of Wight, I would love for you to come to the Island to do a workshop or talk. Perhaps you could meet up with David Icke?

I will see what I can arrange for travel expenses etc.. and get back to you.

Love and Truth,

Amenjo.

[Spica]

Hi all,

i started a discussion on the Uk ground crew page shortly after this thread was started, its regarding Bill's proposal to do a workshop/seminar if a ground crew could organise such an event and pay for 100% of any travel fees, up to now there has been some great ideas but not enough to make it happen, so i invite all of the UK ground crew members to post your ideas there and also any UK based Avalonians that have not yet joined the ground crew, of course any and all Avalonians that wish to get involved are more than welcome.

Looking forward to all suggestions,
Spica

[Inelia]

Hi all,

i started a discussion on the Uk ground crew page shortly after this thread was started, its regarding Bill's proposal to do a workshop/seminar if a ground crew could organise such an event and pay for 100% of any travel fees, up to now there has been some great ideas but not enough to make it happen, so i invite all of the UK ground crew members to post your ideas there and also any UK based Avalonians that have not yet joined the ground crew, of course any and all Avalonians that wish to get involved are more than welcome.

Looking forward to all suggestions,
Spica

Hi Spica, I'm not familiar with the ground crew page, can you post a link please?

[Revere]

W1inmill
Inelia looks beautiful and she also looks familiar for some strange reason. Does anyone else agree ....?

Wow? I almost fell out of my chair when I read that comment. Inelia looks so familiar I was racking my memory to figure out where I know here from? She looks unbelievably familiar to me. I am shocked that you had the same feeling. Any idea why? Is their an actress that she look like?

Peace,

-R-

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Here's a proposal. :)

Get together a small groundcrew to make it happen, cover our travel expenses, and we will be there - to do whatever's needed. (Experimental format at the moment, to be piloted in Vilcabamba as Inelia clarified.)

Even meeting with 20 people in a small room. If our expenses are 100% covered, it's all cool. If there are any proceeds in surplus, then please make a donation.



Bill, could you expand on this - I wasn't quite clear. Thanks

[Davidallany]

Keep your hair on, that was a bit of humour.
I am not in Palestine, I have that up in sympathy for their plight.
And I have Scots heritage, so I am aware of the history.


Hi Lord, whenever I read your posts I can't help :) but to imagine them being spoken by the emperor himself.
I had a feeling that the emperor had a Scottish heritage.

[Icecold]

Yes Lord Sidious lives is Palestine, an obscure suburb of Perth, having an unusually dominant population of comedians.

[Calz]

Yes Lord Sidious lives is Palestine, an obscure suburb of Perth, having an unusually dominant population of comedians.

Ummm ... errr ... exactly which part of the Dark Star is that again??? :haha:

[Spica]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/group.php?groupid=3

Hi Inelia,
Here is the link, I've never posted a link before but hopefully this will work, the discussion i started is at the top of the list of other subjects being discussed, with the title 'The role of spirit to transform a world in crisis The application of our inborn power'

Very best wishes to you always,
Spica

[Davidallany]

Yes Lord Sidious lives is Palestine, an obscure suburb of Perth, having an unusually dominant population of comedians.

"There is a tendency to cohere when groups come together for the purpose of prayer and humour, and lets face it, it's prayer and humour is what makes life fun."
- Dr.Brian O'Leary

[modwiz]

I can say that when you are in Inelia's presence, it is a presence that you can feel. Yes, she's human to the extent that any of us are (well maybe a bit less so in her case) but it's kind of like while you are sitting with a humble and kind woman, you are sitting also with a star or some other grand celestial body with eons of wisdom behind it. I don't mean to fawn, I am just describing how it feels. At least for me.

I'd say more, but let's wait for the interview.

If you have the means to attend this event, by all means go for it. I'm sure it will be unforgettable. The rest of us can send our good thoughts for everyone to have a fun and growing experience.

I can feel her presence just by looking at a picture of her. It is very palpable.

[CyRus]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

[Rocky_Shorz]

what about the 4th choice?

attend an online event...

[Inelia]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do. They were simply mentioned due to Bill's curiosity, and not something which is in any way useful. What I DO offer is easily found if you do an internet search on my name "Inelia Benz". It is all there, perfectly transparent, no agenda, no tricks, no mysteries. And what you find on my website, is what I can offer in a workshop, nothing more. Please read my posts with regard not eating or drinking. It can take MONTHS to get the body to a state of receiving nourishment from sources other than food. And I have stated that I refused it, because I love food. So, sorry, but if that's what you want as a justification, then I guess you won't get your $95 dollars' worth for the day.

As to the energy or presence that people feel when I am there, this is their personal experience and opinion, certainly not something I have any "power" over. Some have experienced altered states, as well as states of heightened perception, and bliss. This is what they do, what they opened themselves up to and what they experienced, not something I do, or try to do at any level. In fact, all I do is simply sit next to them and be in that state myself. Others experience nothing at all. I have no attachment to either result. Each person's higher self knows what it's doing.

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.

[MMA_Fan]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do. They were simply mentioned due to Bill's curiosity, and not something which is in any way useful. What I DO offer is easily found if you do an internet search on my name "Inelia Benz". It is all there, perfectly transparent, no agenda, no tricks, no mysteries. And what you find on my website, is what I can offer in a workshop, nothing more. Please read my posts with regard not eating or drinking. It can take MONTHS to get the body to a state of receiving nourishment from sources other than food. And I have stated that I refused it, because I love food. So, sorry, but if that's what you want as a justification, then I guess you won't get your $95 dollars' worth for the day.

As to the energy or presence that people feel when I am there, this is their personal experience and opinion, certainly not something I have any "power" over. Some have experienced altered states, as well as states of heightened perception, and bliss. This is what they do, what they opened themselves up to and what they experienced, not something I do, or try to do at any level. In fact, all I do is simply sit next to them and be in that state myself. Others experience nothing at all. I have no attachment to either result. Each person's higher self knows what it's doing.

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.

That's the tricky part then.

Not many people on here live in Ecuador. In, fact, judging by the poll most are from the EU. So they would have to spend £2k+ for the trip.
I agree in part with what Cyrus is saying. It would not be worth the trip IMO if it is just a talk for a day or so. A lot of us have read about ascension, seen the videos etc. etc. Nothing new really.

Could you not just do a live stream?

[Inelia]

That's the tricky part then.

Not many people on here live in Ecuador. In, fact, judging by the poll most are from the EU. So they would have to spend £2k+ for the trip.
I agree in part with what Cyrus is saying. It would not be worth the trip IMO if it is just a talk for a day or so. A lot of us have read about ascension, seen the videos etc. etc. Nothing new really.

Could you not just do a live stream?

Like Bill said, if you want something local, organise it :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18027-Bill-Ryan-will-be-in-Vilcabamba-in-July-with-Inelia-and-Brian-O-Leary&p=194051&viewfull=1#post194051

Also, for those without any money, there's always the internet. This stuff is not secret, nor new, it's all over the place. But like someone pointed out, when a group of like minded people meet, a special energy is created. And there is a very particular synergy with each group.

A live stream is a good idea. I do not know if there is a technically minded person at the location to organise it, but if someone volunteers, I don't see why not.

[MMA_Fan]

Like Bill said, if you want something local, organise it :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18027-Bill-Ryan-will-be-in-Vilcabamba-in-July-with-Inelia-and-Brian-O-Leary&p=194051&viewfull=1#post194051



I did start a thread a few weeks ago asking for Bill to tour the UK. If something like that was organised would you come and speak aswell?

[CyRus]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do. They were simply mentioned due to Bill's curiosity, and not something which is in any way useful. What I DO offer is easily found if you do an internet search on my name "Inelia Benz". It is all there, perfectly transparent, no agenda, no tricks, no mysteries. And what you find on my website, is what I can offer in a workshop, nothing more. Please read my posts with regard not eating or drinking. It can take MONTHS to get the body to a state of receiving nourishment from sources other than food. And I have stated that I refused it, because I love food. So, sorry, but if that's what you want as a justification, then I guess you won't get your $95 dollars' worth for the day.

As to the energy or presence that people feel when I am there, this is their personal experience and opinion, certainly not something I have any "power" over. Some have experienced altered states, as well as states of heightened perception, and bliss. This is what they do, what they opened themselves up to and what they experienced, not something I do, or try to do at any level. In fact, all I do is simply sit next to them and be in that state myself. Others experience nothing at all. I have no attachment to either result. Each person's higher self knows what it's doing.

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.
Fair enough, but the fact that you state you can live without food or drink is rather remarkable. I mean, if what you say is true (and I see no reason why you should lie) then you could demonstrate this to objective and honest scientists and 'wake up' a vast proportion of the human population.
Would this not be a worthy cause? Perhaps even one for which you could sacrifice your love of food for a couple of days? I am merely trying to understand your reasoning...

[Lord Sidious]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do. They were simply mentioned due to Bill's curiosity, and not something which is in any way useful. What I DO offer is easily found if you do an internet search on my name "Inelia Benz". It is all there, perfectly transparent, no agenda, no tricks, no mysteries. And what you find on my website, is what I can offer in a workshop, nothing more. Please read my posts with regard not eating or drinking. It can take MONTHS to get the body to a state of receiving nourishment from sources other than food. And I have stated that I refused it, because I love food. So, sorry, but if that's what you want as a justification, then I guess you won't get your $95 dollars' worth for the day.

As to the energy or presence that people feel when I am there, this is their personal experience and opinion, certainly not something I have any "power" over. Some have experienced altered states, as well as states of heightened perception, and bliss. This is what they do, what they opened themselves up to and what they experienced, not something I do, or try to do at any level. In fact, all I do is simply sit next to them and be in that state myself. Others experience nothing at all. I have no attachment to either result. Each person's higher self knows what it's doing.

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.
Fair enough, but the fact that you state you can live without food or drink is rather remarkable. I mean, if what you say is true (and I see no reason why you should lie) then you could demonstrate this to objective and honest scientists and 'wake up' a vast proportion of the human population.
Would this not be a worthy cause? Perhaps even one for which you could sacrifice your love of food for a couple of days? I am merely trying to understand your reasoning...

Let's just say that Inelia did indeed demonstrate this to scientists and the media, what makes you think they would then tell everyone?
They aren't exactly known as being open and truthful, are they?

[Inelia]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do. They were simply mentioned due to Bill's curiosity, and not something which is in any way useful. What I DO offer is easily found if you do an internet search on my name "Inelia Benz". It is all there, perfectly transparent, no agenda, no tricks, no mysteries. And what you find on my website, is what I can offer in a workshop, nothing more. Please read my posts with regard not eating or drinking. It can take MONTHS to get the body to a state of receiving nourishment from sources other than food. And I have stated that I refused it, because I love food. So, sorry, but if that's what you want as a justification, then I guess you won't get your $95 dollars' worth for the day.

As to the energy or presence that people feel when I am there, this is their personal experience and opinion, certainly not something I have any "power" over. Some have experienced altered states, as well as states of heightened perception, and bliss. This is what they do, what they opened themselves up to and what they experienced, not something I do, or try to do at any level. In fact, all I do is simply sit next to them and be in that state myself. Others experience nothing at all. I have no attachment to either result. Each person's higher self knows what it's doing.

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.
Fair enough, but the fact that you state you can live without food or drink is rather remarkable. I mean, if what you say is true (and I see no reason why you should lie) then you could demonstrate this to objective and honest scientists and 'wake up' a vast proportion of the human population.
Would this not be a worthy cause? Perhaps even one for which you could sacrifice your love of food for a couple of days? I am merely trying to understand your reasoning...

Others have already been subjected to scientific study over this, and it really changed nothing much at all with regard waking up the human population. My method is not to do extraordinary things to "prove" there's more to life than a 9 to 5 job. My method is to give people tools that they can use in their personal lives to increase their awareness, increase their vibrational level and become empowered. These, the ability to impart tools and methods of empowerment, are my abilities. Anything else, such as not eating, and any other "mental powerz", can be learned and picked up from elsewhere. The internet is filled with methods which are actually very effective. But remember, although a spiritual evolutionary practice will always result in the enhancement of psychic abilities, the reverse is NOT the case. So, enhancing your psychic abilities will not result in the higher vibration the planet needs. Although with some individuals, it does lead them to eventually starting on a spiritual path.

It is very telling that you are holding on to the "prove to me you can live without food, and I'll pay 2k to go to Ecuador" line. It means, obviously, that your investment would be much better served going to watch Uri Gueller :) Who, by the way, did go from psychic tricks to entering a spiritual path.

But, on the same note, I can actually prove that I, and anyone else, can live without food, or at least a huge decrease in food (in the same way I proved it to myself, I did not ask someone to give me a scientific study, I did it myself to see if it was real or BS). It will take you about 9 months, depending on where you live on the planet. The method I used as an adult, and worked, is "sungazing" and it involves staring into the sunrise and sunset, increasing your seconds every day, while standing barefoot on the ground (where the sun is hitting, or hit during the day). Make sure you do it within one hour after sunrise, and within one hour before sunset, or your eyes will be damaged.

[CyRus]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do. They were simply mentioned due to Bill's curiosity, and not something which is in any way useful. What I DO offer is easily found if you do an internet search on my name "Inelia Benz". It is all there, perfectly transparent, no agenda, no tricks, no mysteries. And what you find on my website, is what I can offer in a workshop, nothing more. Please read my posts with regard not eating or drinking. It can take MONTHS to get the body to a state of receiving nourishment from sources other than food. And I have stated that I refused it, because I love food. So, sorry, but if that's what you want as a justification, then I guess you won't get your $95 dollars' worth for the day.

As to the energy or presence that people feel when I am there, this is their personal experience and opinion, certainly not something I have any "power" over. Some have experienced altered states, as well as states of heightened perception, and bliss. This is what they do, what they opened themselves up to and what they experienced, not something I do, or try to do at any level. In fact, all I do is simply sit next to them and be in that state myself. Others experience nothing at all. I have no attachment to either result. Each person's higher self knows what it's doing.

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.
Fair enough, but the fact that you state you can live without food or drink is rather remarkable. I mean, if what you say is true (and I see no reason why you should lie) then you could demonstrate this to objective and honest scientists and 'wake up' a vast proportion of the human population.
Would this not be a worthy cause? Perhaps even one for which you could sacrifice your love of food for a couple of days? I am merely trying to understand your reasoning...

Others have already been subjected to scientific study over this, and it really changed nothing much at all with regard waking up the human population. My method is not to do extraordinary things to "prove" there's more to life than a 9 to 5 job. My method is to give people tools that they can use in their personal lives to increase their awareness, increase their vibrational level and become empowered. These, the ability to impart tools and methods of empowerment, are my abilities. Anything else, such as not eating, and any other "mental powerz", can be learned and picked up from elsewhere. The internet is filled with methods which are actually very effective. But remember, although a spiritual evolutionary practice will always result in the enhancement of psychic abilities, the reverse is NOT the case. So, enhancing your psychic abilities will not result in the higher vibration the planet needs. Although with some individuals, it does lead them to eventually starting on a spiritual path.

It is very telling that you are holding on to the "prove to me you can live without food, and I'll pay 2k to go to Ecuador" line. It means, obviously, that your investment would be much better served going to watch Uri Gueller :) Who, by the way, did go from psychic tricks to entering a spiritual path.

But, on the same note, I can actually prove that I, and anyone else, can live without food, or at least a huge decrease in food (in the same way I proved it to myself, I did not ask someone to give me a scientific study, I did it myself to see if it was real or BS). It will take you about 9 months, depending on where you live on the planet. The method I used as an adult, and worked, is "sungazing" and it involves staring into the sunrise and sunset, increasing your seconds every day, while standing barefoot on the ground (where the sun is hitting, or hit during the day). Make sure you do it within one hour after sunrise, and within one hour before sunset, or your eyes will be damaged.
Interesting. Honestly, I would not have afforded to go the conference anyway as I am a poor student at the moment. I was just arguing that this would probably make it more interesting to people who have the extra cash. Anyway, you have satisfied my curiosity and I can understand why you would not want to devote yourself to be tested.

I just hope that meet you at a conference some day in the future and you can show me some "mental powerZ". :P

[Inelia]

Like Bill said, if you want something local, organise it :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18027-Bill-Ryan-will-be-in-Vilcabamba-in-July-with-Inelia-and-Brian-O-Leary&p=194051&viewfull=1#post194051



I did start a thread a few weeks ago asking for Bill to tour the UK. If something like that was organised would you come and speak aswell?

Yes. If the costs are covered I can be there.

[peter67]

I'm unable to attend such an amazing event. So i decided to go here instead.

http://www.truthjuice.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=155&Itemid=62

can't wait........... :cool:

[lightblue]

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i'll be meditating to a sunset in tuscany.... :) l

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[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All:

This post about why the discussion about 'powers' and abilities is important - but not important in the way that many might immediately assume.

Levitation, telekinesis, spoonbending, and visible demonstrations of anything else one might care to think of, are just tricks. They do not help to make the world a better place.

Many people (including myself) are curious about these phenomena - because they're real, but quite rare. They're also important clues to the real potential power that we all have.

Listen to this one-minute audio: researcher Bill Birnes talking with radio host George Noory about what he had learned from Admiral George Hoover, from the ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), before Hoover died. As Birnes says, he was the "[Philip] Corso of the Navy".

According to George Hoover, the 'biggest secret' - which the Navy found out - was the potential we all have to manipulate reality around us. This seems to be the destiny of the human race. We are tiny infants compared with our mature future potential.

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Birnes_George_Hoover.mp3

But even this is not the point. The point is that we have attention on this stuff because we've lost it. It's like not being able to find your car keys. Or remember your name. (Even seen the Jason Bourne movies?). Or remember how to drive.

You know there's something deeply wrong when it's clear that some people can do these things - but for some reason you can't.

What went wrong? How did we lose our memories - and our naturally occurring superpowers?

What kind of Kryptonite did this to us Supermen and -women ... such that we can't even remember who we are?

In Inelia, we have someone who has not lost her memory, who knows exactly who she is, and who has lost very few of her abilities. The message is that not she is a circus performer. The message is that something has gone badly wrong - over the aeons of time - because we can no longer access this stuff.

Indeed, most humans are in a pretty degraded state. They are born, and have no idea who they are. They believe whatever they're mis-taught about themselves and the universe and what's actually going on here. The real truths are concealed from them by an elite that guards them jealously. They are (very largely) blind, helpless amnesiacs with no clue what is to be a human being - or any kind of being. They have no information about the game, and do not know the rules.

And if you don't know the game you're here to play, you're going to be part of someone else's game.

How did things get this way? Because we've made bad judgments, hurt others, misused our abilities and therefore inhibited them, or failed to take responsibility for our actions and decisions.

Every time we messed up or made a bad choice, that was another brick in the karmic wall (for lack of any better word). The accumulative result is how things are now.

This is the major mistake in the common New Age characterization of our 'evolution'. We are not trying to climb a mountain here. We're trying to climb out of the hole that we all slipped into (and kept digging when we were down there).

We are not trying to attain or reach or evolve to our divine nature. We're trying to regain our divine nature. We have devolved.

Now we have to repair the accumulative damage, and fix ourselves up. And we're at a turning point here - close to the lowest point of the curve.

Now we start to climb out again. This is what it's all about.

The role (and immense value) of anyone who still has some of what we have all lost is to remind us of who we are. Nothing more.

[Cottage Rose]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc........
.

I am not offering any powers, or power shows, whatever you have heard about this is not what I am here to do.

Each person's higher self knows what it's doing....

I hope that brings some clarity to your curiosity CyRus.


Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

[Inelia]

Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

The psychic warrior side, is one side of the work. Both sides of my work are explained in the interview. Part of the other side, is to engage the darker elements, often aggressive, which are being use at the moment by the PTB. When dealing with these entities/people, I do what is needed. It is important to remember that I am NOT a lightworker.

With regard the claws and fangs, think of a mother lion defending her cubs, she is, in that moment, taps into Kali, she is defending life against an aggressor through destroying the aggressor. Of course, taking someone out in that manner fixes nothing, in fact, it compounds the problem. So, unless someone is in immediate danger, it's best to deal with the being/person through simple focus.

[CyRus]

Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

The psychic warrior side, is one side of the work. Both sides of my work are explained in the interview. Part of the other side, is to engage the darker elements, often aggressive, which are being use at the moment by the PTB. When dealing with these entities/people, I do what is needed. It is important to remember that I am NOT a lightworker.

With regard the claws and fangs, think of a mother lion defending her cubs, she is, in that moment, taps into Kali, she is defending life against an aggressor through destroying the aggressor. Of course, taking someone out in that manner fixes nothing, in fact, it compounds the problem. So, unless someone is in immediate danger, it's best to deal with the being/person through simple focus.
Very intriguing, but as somewhat of an open-minded skeptic I find this hard to digest at face value. I have heard many anecdotal tales, from people very close to me as well, but having not experienced anything "paranormal" (for lack of a better term) myself I am still only 99.99999..% convinced of the reality of these phenomenon.

Such is what happens I presume when one goes through the levels of academia....

I still sometimes think I am naive for believing the things that I believe, due to the "real world" (mainstream lie) being so in your face as it where.

Part of what lead me to Camelot was a massive nihilistic depression after being fed so much lies from the "real world", I somehow knew deep inside my soul that there had to be more to life than: "You work, you play, you die. The end!". (Turns out the truth is very complex indeed) :P

This is all very new to me, and therefore I yearn for that certainty that many of you more experienced people have, and therefore a demonstration of these things would be of a massive comfort to me and many others like me I suppose.

The bliss of being 100% certain that your consciousness lives on after death would be such a freedom, and this is the sole reason why I believe a public demonstration would be very empowering..

However, I understand the notion of a performing circus clown, and therefore realize why this would be difficult.

Thank the creator that there are outlets like this forum in where us inexperienced "beings" can discuss and learn in an understanding environment, free from judgement and ridicule... :)

[Cottage Rose]

Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

The psychic warrior side, is one side of the work. Both sides of my work are explained in the interview. Part of the other side, is to engage the darker elements, often aggressive, which are being use at the moment by the PTB. When dealing with these entities/people, I do what is needed. It is important to remember that I am NOT a lightworker.

With regard the claws and fangs, think of a mother lion defending her cubs, she is, in that moment, taps into Kali, she is defending life against an aggressor through destroying the aggressor. Of course, taking someone out in that manner fixes nothing, in fact, it compounds the problem. So, unless someone is in immediate danger, it's best to deal with the being/person through simple focus.

Dear Inelia:

You are not a lightworker. You are a woman who targets unknowing individuals from a distance and uses various methods to disable them with her energy? I appreciate this clarification. I think I understand now.

Thank you,
Cottage Rose

[Inelia]

Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

The psychic warrior side, is one side of the work. Both sides of my work are explained in the interview. Part of the other side, is to engage the darker elements, often aggressive, which are being use at the moment by the PTB. When dealing with these entities/people, I do what is needed. It is important to remember that I am NOT a lightworker.

With regard the claws and fangs, think of a mother lion defending her cubs, she is, in that moment, taps into Kali, she is defending life against an aggressor through destroying the aggressor. Of course, taking someone out in that manner fixes nothing, in fact, it compounds the problem. So, unless someone is in immediate danger, it's best to deal with the being/person through simple focus.

Dear Inelia:

You are not a lightworker. You are a woman who targets unknowing individuals from a distance and uses various methods to disable them with her energy? I appreciate this clarification. I think I understand now.

Thank you,
Cottage Rose

Hi Cottage, the individuals were not unknowing, they were engaging. And, yes, I do disable them if that's what's needed at the time, to save a life, for example.

My question to you, why the hostility?

[norman]

That photo of his home in the mountains actually puts me off!

I won't bother explaining why.

[MMA_Fan]

Like Bill said, if you want something local, organise it :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18027-Bill-Ryan-will-be-in-Vilcabamba-in-July-with-Inelia-and-Brian-O-Leary&p=194051&viewfull=1#post194051





I did start a thread a few weeks ago asking for Bill to tour the UK. If something like that was organised would you come and speak aswell?

Yes. If the costs are covered I can be there.

Thanks for replying - any chance of a 'Questions for Inelia' thread?

Go on, you know you wanna ;)

[modwiz]

Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

The psychic warrior side, is one side of the work. Both sides of my work are explained in the interview. Part of the other side, is to engage the darker elements, often aggressive, which are being use at the moment by the PTB. When dealing with these entities/people, I do what is needed. It is important to remember that I am NOT a lightworker.

With regard the claws and fangs, think of a mother lion defending her cubs, she is, in that moment, taps into Kali, she is defending life against an aggressor through destroying the aggressor. Of course, taking someone out in that manner fixes nothing, in fact, it compounds the problem. So, unless someone is in immediate danger, it's best to deal with the being/person through simple focus.

Dear Inelia:

You are not a lightworker. You are a woman who targets unknowing individuals from a distance and uses various methods to disable them with her energy? I appreciate this clarification. I think I understand now.

Thank you,
Cottage Rose

I said it before , "Ooh baby. This rose has some thorns".

[Davidallany]

Excuse me for saying so, but what is all this hostility towards Inelia? Please let us continue here in the spirit of love. My sincere respects and appreciation to all Avalonians.
Z1RQmnSJoRg

[Whiskey_Mystic]

But even this is not the point. The point is that we have attention on this stuff because we've lost it. It's like not being able to find your car keys. Or remember your name. (Even seen the Jason Bourne movies?). Or remember how to drive.

You know there's something deeply wrong when it's clear that some people can do these things - but for some reason you can't.

What went wrong? How did we lose our memories - and our naturally occurring superpowers?

What kind of Kryptonite did this to us Supermen and -women ... such that we can't even remember who we are?

This is the 64,000 year question, now isn't it? I've been exploring this deeply. Bill, do you remember how I described myself as a loaf of bread almost ready to come out of the oven? Well, at some point, I went IN the oven.

At some point in the past. I intentionally severed myself. Powerful teachers have told me that I am psychic. I say, "No, I'm not." I mean yeah, everyone is psychic, but I'm about as sensitive as a turnip. They always respond that I am actively blocking this ability. And when I look closely, I do indeed have very accurate intuition, I just refuse to look at it closely. Or it manifests daily in "coincidences".

At some point it came to pass that I became so despondent at the state of the human condition, felt so abandoned by the universe, that rather than come through the long dark night stronger having faced my personal crucifixion experience....Instead I literally stabbed out my third eye so that I would never have to interact with the world that way. It was liken the ultimate renunciation and **** you to God.

Like in the classic fall from grace mythologies, I cast myself out of heaven. It has a been a long road back. My third eye was 'infected" for lifetimes. (She cleared it. took a whole night). I think for some, the long dark night of the soul can last for lifetimes. A tiny faint light is finally noticed and we eventually circle closer and closer, the trauma pattern repeating itself, spending lifetimes trying to get it right and deal with the ultimate cosmic despair and abandonment. Like an abused child we finally let in some light and start to come back to life.

Some of us have served our time in hell. And perhaps that was what our souls intended all along. Who better to guide the lost out of the darkness than those who have been lost in darkness themselves?

I've shared this because it might bring insight to another who is experiencing or has experienced a similar pattern. It's a tough class to sign up for, I will tell you that. I am expecting extra icing on my graduation cake. Almost there.

[shiva777]

here's one explaination of how we may have "lost" our ablitlites...there are many theories about the "fall" of man from 12 strand activated DNA beings down to 2 strand activated DNA beings.Most of them very simplistic and misleading and wanting you to believe that man did this to themselves.
There are many out there with extraordinary ablities who display great love who have inadvertently been feeding off the false light and conditional love..it's very difficult for others and EVEN themselves to discern that.

In my opinion anyone who is trying to tell you that man is to blame for this or who think that we live in a hologram of organic physics,is NOT AWARE OF THE GAME that is being played so they can not free you from the game,they can just draw you furthur in to the "glamour" of the game.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/huntley/esp_huntley_5.htm

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

Speaking from the Taoist perspective,

This is a fairly typical western approach to spiritual inquiry. Many of the Eastern masters have instructed their students not to demonstrate siddhis in the West. The reason is that westerners become obsessed with attaining these "powers" and not with spiritual development. This is called "spiritual materialism". They also tend to begin worshipping the person who displays the siddhi rather than listening to what they have to say. This disempowers the student.

The point is not whether or not the teacher can bilocate or feed the masses with only two fishes and five loaves of bread. These things are secondary and ultimately of no importance. The point is whether or not the teacher has the wisdom to help you to reach your highest personal potential. Does the teacher empower you, help you grow, and give you guidance on your path to enlightement? As you grow, these other things will fall into place naturally. They are not to be sought in and of themselves. Any teacher who tries to "prove" these things to you has already set you on the wrong path and may be using their abilities to unduly influence you, which is a manipulation and bad karma.

To seek out these abilities rather than the spiritual development and self mastery that precedes them is to enter into what the Taoists call the "village of the fallen masters". A more modern metaphor would be "Darth Vader". This incurs negative karma not only for the student, but also for the teacher.

I could go on, but I think I have made my point. Ask yourself if a teaching resonates with you, empowers you, and assists you on your path. This is far more important than whether or not they can turn water into wine.

[Cottage Rose]

I have noticed my link to Lucia and Inelia's interview is no longer working.

I am sure it was working when I posted it.


I think it is an important interview.


Could a moderator please correct the link?

[ThePythonicCow]

I have noticed my link to Lucia and Inelia's interview is no longer working.
Your link to Lucia's interview with Inelia (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3) works fine for me just now.

(Most have been one of those computer glitches ;))

[K626]

Yes it's working.

Having only listened to it for a few minutes, I would like to add that there is a level of honesty in the way Inelia uses words and sometimes searches for the right words. I don't sense any harm in her, infact there was a kind of blue orb at her center.


K

[thunder24]

I real eyes we all want to get better this week, but has it been considered this is part of a divine plan to so call "de-evlove"? and find our selves to re-evlove. Not good or bad just part of what is?
peace

and i'm not saying that others including ourselves don't make it seem alot more difficult than it is...

[Yoda]

Inelia, I found your interview with Lucia absolutely riveting. I want more. Where can I get the second part?
Pierre

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Since there is so much new curiosity about our dear Inelia, perhaps some of you would like to learn that she is the author of several books. http://amzn.com/0557110130

[Maria Stade]

Thank you Inelia and Lucia !

Many dose not understand that the great war is in heaven !

Gaia have shosen some of her children to be the ones to fight this battle in different ways !

Blessings and Love to all out there fighting this war and making the shift and transforming those that the planet puts before you to work with !

I look forward to the next part :hug:

Namaste

[HaveBlue]

If my costs are covered I can be there too:pound:

[Inelia]

If my costs are covered I can be there too:pound:

And what will you be offering? Do you have a website with your work so we can take a look at it?

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Inelia, I found your interview with Lucia absolutely riveting. I want more. Where can I get the second part?
Pierre

Hi Pierre, the second part was published for the group who took part, but it's now not on the net. I called Lucia and she said she can make it available to me to publish somewhere. I'll have to see how that can be done. It's actually quite interesting.

[jorr lundstrom]

Thank you Inelia and Lucia.:rapture::rapture::rapture:

[K626]

here's one explaination of how we may have "lost" our ablitlites...there are many theories about the "fall" of man from 12 strand activated DNA beings down to 2 strand activated DNA beings.Most of them very simplistic and misleading and wanting you to believe that man did this to themselves.
There are many out there with extraordinary ablities who display great love who have inadvertently been feeding off the false light and conditional love..it's very difficult for others and EVEN themselves to discern that.

In my opinion anyone who is trying to tell you that man is to blame for this or who think that we live in a hologram of organic physics,is NOT AWARE OF THE GAME that is being played so they can not free you from the game,they can just draw you furthur in to the "glamour" of the game.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/huntley/esp_huntley_5.htm

There is of course the possibility that we agreed to give up our abilities for the duration of earth time.

love

K

[LifeAngel]

Hi Bill,

This is an opportunity of a life time! When I read this I got a big nudge from whomever it was for me to attend this as a must. I will do my best to make it. It is within the budget.
I know I am new to this forum and considered a nobody but my inner self is saying I must.

Peace to all.

G

[Lord Sidious]

Hi Bill,

This is an opportunity of a life time! When I read this I got a big nudge from whomever it was for me to attend this as a must. I will do my best to make it. It is within the budget.
I know I am new to this forum and considered a nobody but my inner self is saying I must.

Peace to all.

G

We don't assume people are nobodies just because they are new to the forum.
Welcome to Avalon.

[AndyWept]

Hi Bill

I would be happy to attend where ever the venue may be and I would be honoured to be considered for a place.

Regards

Andy

[DeDukshyn]

I am intrigued by these "powers" that Inelia apparently possesses. I was wondering if anyone could clarify more on this, as to what she can do etc..
Undoubtedly, I am open to such powers and believe that within this illusion of matter there are special souls who have the ability to do 'impossible' things, but if it is all talk no action as it where I get suspicious.

I am not being flippant, just honest. Inelia claims she can live without food and drink, and therefore I am of the opinion that whoever participates in this workshop has earned the right to witness this feat. If she doesn't eat or drink for the entire duration of the trip I believe the price would be justified. :P
However, if the context of this workshop is just to talk about these abilities without any actual demonstration I must say I would feel somewhat 'cheated'.

My personal opinion though...

If you pay my way, I'll be happy to attend without eating, but I may have to drink water :p
(I'm no where near as talented as Inelia, but eating almost nothing is almost natural for me - I'm no skinny beanpole either!).

[toothpick]

Workshop sounds very interesting.
What a crazy looking house Brian has. I just love it.
It,s a great chance to meet Inelia, Brian and Bill of course.
It sounds like a great worksop that all Avalon members should take part in.
Maybe someday members will be offered workshop classes on the internet.
Brians fabulous exotic Vilcabamba Ecuador retreat looks so inviting. I am very jealous of Mr. O,Leary,s Digs.
Everyone is chomping at the bit to see Inelia interview, Including myself, can,t wait.

toothpick

[Calz]

Yes, CyRus, I would also appreciate some clarification as to what Inelia does. After listening to her interview with Lucia (posted at Lucia's website), I got the impression her work is as a psychic warrior.

Inelia, I was troubled by your comment about your fangs and claws coming out and feeling a chain around your neck jerking you back in the interview. It seemed a bit of a dark energy. Could you explain this for us?

This is a link to Lucia's interview with Inelia: Listen (http://mysite.verizon.net/hubcapranch1991/Map.mp3)

The psychic warrior side, is one side of the work. Both sides of my work are explained in the interview. Part of the other side, is to engage the darker elements, often aggressive, which are being use at the moment by the PTB. When dealing with these entities/people, I do what is needed. It is important to remember that I am NOT a lightworker.

With regard the claws and fangs, think of a mother lion defending her cubs, she is, in that moment, taps into Kali, she is defending life against an aggressor through destroying the aggressor. Of course, taking someone out in that manner fixes nothing, in fact, it compounds the problem. So, unless someone is in immediate danger, it's best to deal with the being/person through simple focus.

Dear Inelia:

You are not a lightworker. You are a woman who targets unknowing individuals from a distance and uses various methods to disable them with her energy? I appreciate this clarification. I think I understand now.

Thank you,
Cottage Rose

Hi Cottage, the individuals were not unknowing, they were engaging. And, yes, I do disable them if that's what's needed at the time, to save a life, for example.

My question to you, why the hostility?

Finally had some time to catch up and listen to the interview.

Quite clearly free will and engagement were involved so not sure how it could be taken otherwise.

Looking forward ... even more ... to the release of Inelia's interview with Bill and perhaps the 2nd portion of the Lucia interview if possible.

As for location location location ... anywhere 1 days drive from middle america and I will be there (aka Denver or Kansas City biggest cities).

Special thanks to Inelia and Bill (as well as Lucia) for bringing this material together.

As for any any negative reaction in any thread (on any forum) why do people trying to bring forth something positive for our society/planet meet with such resistance? :noidea:

It seems to be a non-stop event.

Even if the message doesn't fit nicely into any personal paradigm ... why cannot there be acceptance and tolerability for other perceptions of reality?

[Radi]

I would LOVE to come in this wonderful place with you all, but $$ :confused: no money for travel now. :couch2: but who knows... maybe until July I will find somewhere somehow something $_$ ;D :mullet:

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Pierre, the second part was published for the group who took part, but it's now not on the net. I called Lucia and she said she can make it available to me to publish somewhere. I'll have to see how that can be done. It's actually quite interesting.

Hello Inelia,

Did you manage to publish the second part of the interview? and if yes where?

[Gajanana]

Phew! what a lot to read. I have butterflies reading this, but will have to wait for the next one in europe ;) and I do believe there will be one... feels right.

Having said that, like many others, Equador feels right too. Patience is the keyword for most of us here. Looking forward to meeting you both one day :cool:

[silvervioletrubie]

Inelia,

Very rarely (if ever) have I felt such strength from such a "distance".

I am thankful for the privilege of being presented with an opportunity to meet both Bill and Inelia.

Thank you Bill for bringing this opportunity into my view.

[Inelia]

Hi Pierre, the second part was published for the group who took part, but it's now not on the net. I called Lucia and she said she can make it available to me to publish somewhere. I'll have to see how that can be done. It's actually quite interesting.

Hello Inelia,

Did you manage to publish the second part of the interview? and if yes where?

Hi, working on it. It was part of the private section of the teleconference, so there's permissions to get etc., or editing of other people's personal experiences out of it.

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All:

Many thanks for all your responses, and your interest.

The event will be a two-day event, on 25-26 June. All details here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19966-Bill-Inelia-and-Brian-O-Leary-in-Vilcabamba-25-26-June-2011

That thread will remain open for questions, further details, and for you to express your interest (again, please!) in a poll. This thread is closing now. Many thanks again to everyone.