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DawgBone
12th April 2011, 16:40
"Bolivia is preparing to pass a new law that could lead to citizens challenging environmental destruction in court.

A Ley de Derechos de la Madre Tierra (The Law of Mother Earth) would grant nature the same rights as humans, according to The Guardian.

The country will establish 11 new rights for nature, including: the right to exist, the right to continue natural cycles, the right to clean water and air, the right to be free of pollution, and the right not to have cellular structures altered or genetically modified.

The law will also give nature the right "to not be affected by mega-infrastructure and development projects that affect the balance of ecosystems and the local inhabitant communities."

"It makes world history," Bolivian Vice-President Alvaro García Linera said. "Earth is the mother of all."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/12/bolivia-to-make-world-history-by-granting-rights-to-mother-nature/


How about that! The US grants rights to corporations and Bolivia grants rights to Mother Earth.

taliesin
12th April 2011, 17:09
I love this idea. Good for BOLIVIA!
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Lord Sidious
12th April 2011, 17:40
I reckon they are only recognising those rights, not granting them.
How can they grant rights to something that existed before them?

DawgBone
12th April 2011, 17:47
I reckon they are only recognising those rights, not granting them.
How can they grant rights to something that existed before them?

Good point!

Spiralmind
12th April 2011, 21:42
While this sounds great on the surface, I'm not sure it is a good idea.


http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/resolution+looks+give+Mother+Earth+same+righs+humans/4597992/story.html

MariaDine
12th April 2011, 22:02
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Namasté

jorr lundstrom
12th April 2011, 22:18
Wow, both heart and balls.:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

jackovesk
13th April 2011, 16:12
"Bolivia is preparing to pass a new law that could lead to citizens challenging environmental destruction in court.

A Ley de Derechos de la Madre Tierra (The Law of Mother Earth) would grant nature the same rights as humans, according to The Guardian.

The country will establish 11 new rights for nature, including: the right to exist, the right to continue natural cycles, the right to clean water and air, the right to be free of pollution, and the right not to have cellular structures altered or genetically modified.

The law will also give nature the right "to not be affected by mega-infrastructure and development projects that affect the balance of ecosystems and the local inhabitant communities."

"It makes world history," Bolivian Vice-President Alvaro García Linera said. "Earth is the mother of all."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/12/bolivia-to-make-world-history-by-granting-rights-to-mother-nature/


How about that! The US grants rights to corporations and Bolivia grants rights to Mother Earth.

:nono: Unfortunately this was granted by the Corrupt UN...

Sixty-fifth session

Second Committee

Agenda item 20 (i)

Sustainable development: Harmony with Nature

Bolivia (Plurinational State of), Chile, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Gabon, Georgia, Nepal, Nicaragua, Paraguay, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Seychelles, Syrian Arab Republic and Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of): revised draft resolution;

Harmony with Nature

The General Assembly,

Reaffirming the Rio Declaration on Environment and Development,1 Agenda 212 and the Programme for the Further Implementation of Agenda 21, 3 the Johannesburg Declaration on Sustainable Development4 and the Plan of Implementation of the World Summit on Sustainable Development (“Johannesburg Plan of Implementation”),5

Recalling its resolutions 64/196 of 21 December 2009 and 63/278 of 22 April 2009, in which it designated 22 April as International Mother Earth Day,
Recalling the 1982 World Charter for Nature,6

Recalling also its resolutions 47/193 of 22 February 1993, in which it declared 22 March the World Day for Water, 49/114 of 19 December 1994, in which it proclaimed 16 September the International Day for the Preservation of the Ozone Layer, 55/201 of 20 December 2000, in which it decided to proclaim 22 May as the International Day for Biological Diversity, and 61/193 of 20 December 2006, in which it decided to declare 2011 the International Year of Forests,

Recalling further its resolution 64/253 of 23 February 2010, entitled “International Day of Nowruz”,

Taking note of the first Peoples’ World Conference on Climate Change and the Rights of Mother Earth,7 held in Tiquipaya, Cochabamba, hosted by the Plurinational State of Bolivia from 20 to 22 April 2010,

Stressing the importance of the United Nations Conference on Sustainable Development that will take place in Brazil in 2012.

http://motherearthrights.org/2010/12/24/un-resolution-harmony-with-nature/

PS - Be careful what you wish for! The UN & NWO Globalists have all bases covered!

Can I suggest doing some research on how the UN Globalists utilise the word 'Sustainability in their Agenda 21 Program!

Agenda 21 In One Easy Lesson

By Tom DeWeese

Awareness of Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development is racing across the nation as citizens in community after community are learning what their city planners are actually up to. As awareness grows, I am receiving more and more calls for tools to help activists fight back. Many complain that elected officials just won't read detailed reports or watch long videos. "Can you give us something that is quick, and easy to read that we can hand out," I'm asked.

So here it is. A one page, quick description of Agenda 21 that fits on one page. I've also included for the back side of your hand out a list of quotes for the perpetrators of Agenda 21 that should back up my brief descriptions.

A word of caution, use this as a started kit, but do not allow it to be your only knowledge of this very complex subject. To kill it you have to know the facts. Research, know your details; discover the NGO players in your community; identify who is victimized by the policies and recruit them to your fight; and then kill Agenda 21. That's how it must be done. The information below is only your first step. Happy hunting.

What is Sustainable Development?

According to its authors, the objective of sustainable development is to integrate economic, social and environmental policies in order to achieve reduced consumption, social equity, and the preservation and restoration of biodiversity. Sustainablists insist that every societal decision be based on environmental impact, focusing on three components; global land use, global education, and global population control and reduction.

Social Equity (Social Justice)

Social justice is described as the right and opportunity of all people “to benefit equally from the resources afforded us by society and the environment.” Redistribution of wealth. Private property is a social injustice since not everyone can build wealth from it. National sovereignty is a social injustice. Universal health care is a social justice. All part of Agenda 21 policy.

Economic Prosperity

Public Private Partnerships (PPP). Special dealings between government and certain, chosen corporations which get tax breaks, grants and the government’s power of Eminent Domain to implement sustainable policy. Government-sanctioned monopolies.

Local Sustainable Development policies

Smart Growth, Wildlands Project, Resilient Cities, Regional Visioning Projects, STAR Sustainable Communities, Green jobs, Green Building Codes, “Going Green,” Alternative Energy, Local Visioning, facilitators, regional planning, historic preservation, conservation easements, development rights, sustainable farming, comprehensive planning, growth management, consensus.

Who is behind it?

ICLEI – Local Governments for Sustainability (formally, International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives). Communities pay ICLEI dues to provide “local” community plans, software, training, etc. Addition groups include American Planning Council, The Renaissance Planning Group, International City/ County Management Group, aided by US Mayors Conference, National Governors Association, National League of Cities, National Association of County Administrators and many more private organizations and official government agencies. Foundation and government grants drive the process.

Where did it originate?

The term Sustainable Development was first introduced to the world in the pages a 1987 report (Our Common Future) produced by the United Nations World Commission on Environmental and Development, authored by Gro Harlem Brundtland, VP of the World Socialist Party. The term was first offered as official UN policy in 1992, in a document called UN Sustainable Development Agenda 21, issued at the UN’s Earth Summit, today referred to simply as Agenda 21.

What gives Agenda 21 Ruling Authority?

More than 178 nations adopted Agenda 21 as official policy during a signing ceremony at the Earth Summit. US president George H.W. Bush signed the document for the US. In signing, each nation pledge to adopt the goals of Agenda 21. In 1995, President Bill Clinton, in compliance with Agenda 21, signed Executive Order #12858 to create the President’s Council on Sustainable Development in order to “harmonize” US environmental policy with UN directives as outlined in Agenda 21. The EO directed all agencies of the Federal Government to work with state and local community governments in a joint effort “reinvent” government using the guidelines outlined in Agenda 21. As a result, with the assistance of groups like ICLEI, Sustainable Development is now emerging as government policy in every town, county and state in the nation.

Revealing Quotes From the Planners

“Agenda 21 proposes an array of actions which are intended to be implemented by EVERY person on Earth…it calls for specific changes in the activities of ALL people… Effective execution of Agenda 21 will REQUIRE a profound reorientation of ALL humans, unlike anything the world has ever experienced… ” Agenda 21: The Earth Summit Strategy to Save Our Planet (Earthpress, 1993). Emphases – DR

Urgent to implement – but we don’t know what it is!

“The realities of life on our planet dictate that continued economic development as we know it cannot be sustained…Sustainable development, therefore is a program of action for local and global economic reform – a program that has yet to be fully defined.” The Local Agenda 21 Planning Guide, published by ICLEI, 1996.

“No one fully understands how or even, if, sustainable development can be achieved; however, there is growing consensus that it must be accomplished at the local level if it is ever to be achieved on a global basis.” The Local Agenda 21 Planning Guide, published by ICLEI, 1996.

Agenda 21 and Private Property

“Land…cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principle instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth, therefore contributes to social justice.” From the report from the 1976 UN’s Habitat I Conference.

“Private land use decisions are often driven by strong economic incentives that result in several ecological and aesthetic consequences…The key to overcoming it is through public policy…” Report from the President’s Council on Sustainable Development, page 112.

“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.” Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UN’s Earth Summit, 1992.

Reinvention of Government

“We need a new collaborative decision process that leads to better decisions, more rapid change, and more sensible use of human, natural and financial resources in achieving our goals.” Report from the President’s Council on Sustainable Development

“Individual rights will have to take a back seat to the collective.” Harvey Ruvin, Vice Chairman, ICLEI. The Wildlands Project

“We must make this place an insecure and inhospitable place for Capitalists and their projects – we must reclaim the roads and plowed lands, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres or presently settled land.” Dave Foreman, Earth First.

What is not Sustainable?

Ski runs, grazing of livestock, plowing of soil, building fences, industry, single family homes, paves and tarred roads, logging activities, dams and reservoirs, power line construction, and economic systems that fail to set proper value on the environment.” UN’s Biodiversity Assessment Report.

Hide Agenda 21’s UN roots from the people

“Participating in a UN advocated planning process would very likely bring out many of the conspiracy- fixated groups and individuals in our society… This segment of our society who fear ‘one-world government’ and a UN invasion of the United States through which our individual freedom would be stripped away would actively work to defeat any elected official who joined ‘the conspiracy’ by undertaking LA21. So we call our process something else, such as comprehensive planning, growth management or smart growth.” J. Gary Lawrence, advisor to President Clinton’s Council on Sustainable Development.

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Opinion/086970-2011-04-01-agenda-21-in-one-easy-lesson.htm

Fred259
13th April 2011, 16:40
Good Post, sound words Jacko....

Patrikas
13th April 2011, 18:45
"Bolivia is preparing to pass a new law that could lead to citizens challenging environmental destruction in court.

A Ley de Derechos de la Madre Tierra (The Law of Mother Earth) would grant nature the same rights as humans, according to The Guardian.

The country will establish 11 new rights for nature, including: the right to exist, the right to continue natural cycles, the right to clean water and air, the right to be free of pollution, and the right not to have cellular structures altered or genetically modified.

The law will also give nature the right "to not be affected by mega-infrastructure and development projects that affect the balance of ecosystems and the local inhabitant communities."

"It makes world history," Bolivian Vice-President Alvaro García Linera said. "Earth is the mother of all."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/12/bolivia-to-make-world-history-by-granting-rights-to-mother-nature/


How about that! The US grants rights to corporations and Bolivia grants rights to Mother Earth.

Great post and good on those that brought this proposal forward this is something that we as a collective consciousness can add to .......creation starts in the etheric as thought then manifested into the physical by action im all for for it.. bless them all for their effort, and i pray that they have the backing of creator and earth to bring it in blessings

Fred259
13th April 2011, 20:21
Patrikas, It might be an idea not to get so loved up with this concept, it probably won’t apply to you, me and the rest of those who have posted, for we will all be dead.

It strikes me that Jackovesk in Australia is the only one on this thread who really understands what this is really all about. Maurice Strong and the criminals behind Agenda 21 don’t get a damn about the planet or you and I. It would be wise to read thoroughly his post in the cold light of day.

Patrikas
13th April 2011, 21:54
The answer to this.. which is based on fear ....the opposite to love

Patrikas, It might be an idea not to get so loved up with this concept, it probably won’t apply to you, me and the rest of those who have posted, for we will all be dead.
Is here..
.......it is not written in any book... .it is written in the heart of everything and everyone on this planet and was put there by your creator and mine....to access this info, see here...:angel:... Blessings

jackovesk
14th April 2011, 03:03
Firstly,

Thank-you DawgBone for your post...

With your permission 'only' I would like to start a New Thread called...

" Part 2 - Bolivia Grants Rights To Mother Earth by the 'Currupt UN'

Only because its extremely Important for those that don't understand What & Who is behind this hidden UN Globalist Agenda 21.

I await your advice...Yes/No?

Regards,
Jack

Arrowwind
17th April 2011, 02:51
= Mod comment: This post by Arrowwind was merged from a separate thread she opened on the same subject

Limor - moderator=

Found here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 … lds-rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/10/bolivia-enshrines-natural-worlds-rights)
(There's also a video with the article at that link)


Bolivia is set to pass the world's first laws granting all nature equal rights to humans. The Law of Mother Earth, now agreed by politicians and grassroots social groups, redefines the country's rich mineral deposits as "blessings" and is expected to lead to radical new conservation and social measures to reduce pollution and control industry.

The country, which has been pilloried by the US and Britain in the UN climate talks for demanding steep carbon emission cuts, will establish 11 new rights for nature. They include: the right to life and to exist; the right to continue vital cycles and processes free from human alteration; the right to pure water and clean air; the right to balance; the right not to be polluted; and the right to not have cellular structure modified or genetically altered.

Controversially, it will also enshrine the right of nature "to not be affected by mega-infrastructure and development projects that affect the balance of ecosystems and the local inhabitant communities".

"It makes world history. Earth is the mother of all", said Vice-President Alvaro García Linera. "It establishes a new relationship between man and nature, the harmony of which must be preserved as a guarantee of its regeneration."

The law, which is part of a complete restructuring of the Bolivian legal system following a change of constitution in 2009, has been heavily influenced by a resurgent indigenous Andean spiritual world view which places the environment and the earth deity known as the Pachamama at the centre of all life. Humans are considered equal to all other entities.

But the abstract new laws are not expected to stop industry in its tracks. While it is not clear yet what actual protection the new rights will give in court to bugs, insects and ecosystems, the government is expected to establish a ministry of mother earth and to appoint an ombudsman. It is also committed to giving communities new legal powers to monitor and control polluting industries.

Bolivia has long suffered from serious environmental problems from the mining of tin, silver, gold and other raw materials. "Existing laws are not strong enough," said Undarico Pinto, leader of the 3.5m-strong Confederación Sindical Única de Trabajadores Campesinos de Bolivia, the biggest social movement, who helped draft the law. "It will make industry more transparent. It will allow people to regulate industry at national, regional and local levels."

Foreign Minister David Choquehuanca said Bolivia's traditional indigenous respect for the Pachamama was vital to prevent climate change. "Our grandparents taught us that we belong to a big family of plants and animals. We believe that everything in the planet forms part of a big family. We indigenous people can contribute to solving the energy, climate, food and financial crises with our values," he said.

Little opposition is expected to the law being passed because President Evo Morales's ruling party, the Movement Towards Socialism, enjoys a comfortable majority in both houses of parliament.

However, the government must tread a fine line between increased regulation of companies and giving way to the powerful social movements who have pressed for the law. Bolivia earns $500m (£305m) a year from mining companies which provides nearly one third of the country's foreign currency.

In the indigenous philosophy, the Pachamama is a living being.

The draft of the new law states: "She is sacred, fertile and the source of life that feeds and cares for all living beings in her womb. She is in permanent balance, harmony and communication with the cosmos. She is comprised of all ecosystems and living beings, and their self-organisation."

Ecuador, which also has powerful indigenous groups, has changed its constitution to give nature "the right to exist, persist, maintain and regenerate its vital cycles, structure, functions and its processes in evolution". However, the abstract rights have not led to new laws or stopped oil companies from destroying some of the most biologically rich areas of the Amazon.

Coping with climate change

Bolivia is struggling to cope with rising temperatures, melting glaciers and more extreme weather events including more frequent floods, droughts, frosts and mudslides.

Research by glaciologist Edson Ramirez of San Andres University in the capital city, La Paz, suggests temperatures have been rising steadily for 60 years and started to accelerate in 1979. They are now on course to rise a further 3.5-4C over the next 100 years. This would turn much of Bolivia into a desert.

Most glaciers below 5,000m are expected to disappear completely within 20 years, leaving Bolivia with a much smaller ice cap. Scientists say this will lead to a crisis in farming and water shortages in cities such as La Paz and El Alto.

Evo Morales, Latin America's first indigenous president, has become an outspoken critic in the UN of industrialised countries which are not prepared to hold temperatures to a 1C rise.

Mad Hatter
17th April 2011, 11:13
I await your advice...Yes/No?

You'd better get on with it as cave space is limited and I for one will not be dictated to by the NWO because a bunch of latte slurping inner city wanna be tree huggers are too asleep to see the writing on the wall !!

How about for openers some quotes from the culprits / stooges themselves...

"The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
-Club of Rome,
premier environmental think-tank,
consultants to the United Nations

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"We need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public's imagination...
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts...
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest."
- Prof. Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead author of many IPCC reports

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"We've got to ride this global warming issue.
Even if the theory of global warming is wrong,
we will be doing the right thing in terms of
economic and environmental policy."
- Timothy Wirth,
President of the UN Foundation

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"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world."
- Christine Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the Environment

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“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

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“Themodels are convenient fictions
that provide something very useful.”
- Dr David Frame,
climate modeler, Oxford University

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"I believe it is appropriate to have an 'over-representation' of the facts
on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience."
-Al Gore,
Climate Change activist

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"It doesn't matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe is true."
- Paul Watson,
co-founder of Greenpeace

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"The only way to get our society to truly change is to
frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe."

- emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

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"We are on the verge of a global transformation.
All we need is the right major crisis..."
- David Rockefeller,
Club of Rome executive member

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"By the end of this century climate change will reduce the human
population to a few breeding pairs surviving near the Arctic."
- Sir James Lovelock,
Revenge of Gaia

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"Climate Change will
result in a catastrophic global sea level
rise of seven meters. That's bye-bye most of Bangladesh,
Netherlands, Florida and would make London the new Atlantis."
- Greenpeace International


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"This planet is on course for a catastrophe.
The existence of Life itself is at stake."
- Dr Tim Flannery,
Principal Research Scientist

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"Coal makes us sick. Oil makes us sick. It's global warming.
It's ruining our country. It's ruining our world."
- Harry Reid,
U.S. Senate majority leader


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"Climate Change is the greatest threat that
human civilization has ever faced."
- Angela Merkel,
German Chancellor

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"
In Nature organic growth proceeds according
to a Master Plan, a Blueprint. Such a ‘master plan’ is
missing from the process of growth and development of
the world system. Now is the time to draw up a master plan for
sustainable growth and world development based on global
allocation of all resources and a new global economic system.
Ten or twenty years form today it will probably be too late."
- Club of Rome,
Mankind at the Turning Point

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"The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable,
indeed a sacred principle of international relations.
It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to
the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation."-UN Commission on Global Governance report

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"Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and
it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely.
Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well
suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature
of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected
representatives to make competent decisions at the right time."
-Club of Rome,
The First Global Revolution

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"The emerging 'environmentalization' of our civilization
and the need for vigorous action in the interest of the entire global
community will inevitably have multiple political consequences.
Perhaps the most important of them will be a gradual change
in the status of the United Nations. Inevitably, it must
assume some aspects of a world government."
- Mikhail Gorbachev,
State of the World Forum



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"I envisage the prinicles of the Earth Charter to
be a new form of the ten commandments.
They lay the foundation for a sustainable
global earth community."
- Mikhail Gorbachev,
co-author of The Earth Charter

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"In my view, after fifty years of service in the United Nations system,
I perceive the utmost urgency and absolute necessity for proper
Earth government. There is no shadow of a doubt that the present
political and economic systems are no longer appropriate
and will lead to the end of life evolution on this planet.
We must therefore absolutely and urgently look for new ways."
- Dr Robert Muller,
UN Assistant Secretary General,

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"Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty
to the international community and beginning to create a
new system of international environmental governance
as a means of solving otherwise unmanageable crises."
- Lester Brown,
WorldWatch Institute

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"Regionalism must precede globalism.
We foresee a seamless system of governance from
local communities, individual states, regional unions
and up through to the United Nations itself."
- UNCommission on Global Governance

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"A keen and anxious awareness is evolving to suggest that
fundamental changes will have to take place in the world order
and its power structures, in the distribution of wealth and income.
Perhaps only a new and enlightened humanism
can permit mankind to negotiate this transition."
- Club of Rome,
Mankind at the Turning Point

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"The alternative to the existing world order can only
emerge as a result of a new human dimension of progress.
We envision a revolution of the mind, a new way of thinking."
- Mikhail Gorbachev,
State of the World Forum

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"We require a central organizing principle - one agreed to voluntarily.
Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvement in laws and regulations,
rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change - these are all forms of
appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that
sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation
of society will not be necessary."
-Al Gore,
Earth in the Balance

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"Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound
reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world
has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both
governments and individuals and an unprecedented
redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift
will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences
of every human action be integrated into individual and
collective decision-making at every level."
- UN Agenda 21


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"The goal now is a socialist, redistributionist society,
which is nature's proper steward and society's only hope."
-David Brower,
founder of Friends of the Earth

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"If we don't overthrow capitalism, we don't have a chance of
saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have
an ecologically sound society under socialism.
I don't think it is possible under capitalism"
-Judi Bari,
principal organiser of Earth First!

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"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the
industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?"
- Maurice Strong,
founder of the UN Environment Programme

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"A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the
United States. De-development means bringing our
economic system into line with the realities of
ecology and the world resource situation."
-Paul Ehrlich,
Professor of Population Studies

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"The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another
United States. We can't let other countries have the same
number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US.
We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are."
-Michael Oppenheimer,
Environmental Defense Fund

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"Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty,
reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control."
-Professor Maurice King

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"We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place
for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and
plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams,
free shackled rivers and return to wilderness
millions of acres of presently settled land."
- David Foreman,
co-founder of Earth First!

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"Complex technology of any sort is an assault on
human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to
discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy,
because of what we might do with it."
- Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

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"The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the
worst thing that could happen to the planet."
- Jeremy Rifkin,
Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

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"Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the
equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun."
- ProfPaul Ehrlich, Stanford University

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"The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many,
doing too well economically and burning too much oil."
– Sir James Lovelock,
BBC Interview

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"My three main goals would be to reduce human population to
about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure
and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species,
returning throughout the world."
-Dave Foreman,
co-founder of Earth First!


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"Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the
affluent middle class - involving high meat intake,
use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning,
and suburban housing - are not sustainable."
-Maurice Strong,
Rio Earth Summit

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"Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive,
selfish and unethical animal on the earth."
- Michael Fox,
vice-president of The Humane Society

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"Human beings, as a species,
have no more value than slugs."
-John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

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"Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a
pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor."
- Sir James Lovelock,
Healing Gaia

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"The Earth has cancer
and the cancer is Man."
- Club of Rome,
Mankind at the Turning Point

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"A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells;
the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people.
We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to
the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many
apparently brutal and heartless decisions.''
- Prof Paul Ehrlich,
The Population Bomb

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"I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history,
but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in
the number of game animals and the need to adjust
the cull to the size of the surplus population."
- Prince Philip,
preface of Down to Earth

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"A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society
at the present North American material standard of living
would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard
of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible."
- United Nations,
Global Biodiversity Assessment

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"A total population of 250-300 million people,
a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
- Ted Turner,
founder of CNN and major UN donor

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"...the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence
more than 500 million but less than one billion."
-Club of Rome,
Goals for Mankind

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"One America burdens the earth much more than
twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say.
In order to stabilize world population,we must eliminate
350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say,
but it's just as bad not to say it."
-Jacques Cousteau,
UNESCO Courier

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"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth
as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
- Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh,
patron of the World Wildlife Fund

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"I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong.
It played an important part in balancing ecosystems."
- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

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"The extinction of the human species may not
only be inevitable but a good thing."
- Christopher Manes, Earth First!

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“T
he extinction of Homo Sapiens would mean survival
for millions, if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species.
Phasing out the human race will solve every
problem on Earth - social and environmental.”
-Ingrid Newkirk,
former President of PETA

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"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
-David Brower,
first Executive Director of the Sierra Club



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"It is the responsibility of each human being today to
choose between the force of darkness and the force of light.
We must therefore transform our attitudes, and adopt a renewed
respect for the superior laws of Divine Nature."
-Maurice Strong,
first Secretary General of UNEP



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"Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed,
we must destroy the Judeo-Christian Religious tradition."
- Peter Singer, founder of Animal Rights

I mean who the hell do these people think they are. All that is required to address the issue is a paradigm shift in thinking from the current one of scarcity to the actual existing reality of abundance and applying the tech available for the benefit of all.


You can physically put the entire population of the planet each on a half acre block in Queensland and still have room to spare so don't try and tell me we are over populated!!

The concept that the planet needs saving from us it's human fleas is just laughable.It's been here billions of years and will be for many more. If humankind survives or not is not relevant on that score.

Will the real planet earth please stand up, please stand up,cause we have a string of self interested lawyer$ and lawmaker$ intent on making life harder than it really needs to be!! :tsk:

Mad Hatter removes finger from hot button and crawls to corner awaiting inevitable flaming...

Fred259
17th April 2011, 11:30
Good post Mad Hatter,


I think it’s very important on forums particularly so this forum that people go through and read and read again the quotes on Mad Hatters post.

It’s perhaps best to do this at 09.00 in the cold light of day.

Maria Stade
17th April 2011, 12:10
Thank you for a good thread with many wise woices !
Bolivia is moving in the right direction and we all know that the planet needs to be protected.
Yes she should have many rights and man is the great enemy to all life !

Agenda 21 ..... no.... the nolige needs to be planted in the heart of people !

Not a projekt by greedy ones that will turne the back and rob others as it gets fruitful !

We have obligations and that will make some buisnesses not in line with nature, often those that is making big bucks by polluting everyting !

But this is anyway good news as it is confirmation that the planet is in peoples mind now.

Every singel contry should have a plan for how to co exist with out damaging the planet.

Every singel contry should start to put all energy in to create clean energy and engins that is frendly to the planet.

Recycling all that we have and stop mining and stop taking up oil !

Stop using chemicals in agiculture and no gen modified seeds !

Nature have its own defence on bugs and nature should be used as nature do !

We all have a long way to go before this planet is back on track !


Bolivia is taking the step and others should follow !

Be were of the chackals that lurking in the shadows they will trye to change the game !

So dont let them !

Go Bolivia go :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

Fred259
17th April 2011, 12:20
Folks, I’m interested in this thread, and peoples perception. Do people agree with this statement. If Bolivia for example were to make this law, do you think it’s a good or bad thing?


"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

David Brower,
First Executive Director of the Sierra Club

DawgBone
17th April 2011, 12:33
Firstly,

Thank-you DawgBone for your post...

With your permission 'only' I would like to start a New Thread called...

" Part 2 - Bolivia Grants Rights To Mother Earth by the 'Currupt UN'

Only because its extremely Important for those that don't understand What & Who is behind this hidden UN Globalist Agenda 21.

I await your advice...Yes/No?

Regards,
Jack

Sure, Jack. Go right ahead.

DawgBone
17th April 2011, 12:40
Folks, I’m interested in this thread, and peoples perception. Do people agree with this statement. If Bolivia for example were to make this law, do you think it’s a good or bad thing?


"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

David Brower,
First Executive Director of the Sierra Club


I think some form of compulsory birth control will eventually be necessary, even if it is not necessary now. Couples should be limited to two, healthy children. Doing this would stop population growth and gradually reduce population in a humane way.

The problem will be cultural and religious. Institutions like the Catholic Church will oppose it.

Fred259
17th April 2011, 13:02
Folks, I’m interested in this thread, and peoples perception. Do people agree with this statement. If Bolivia for example were to make this law, do you think it’s a good or bad thing?


"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

David Brower,
First Executive Director of the Sierra Club


I think some form of compulsory birth control will eventually be necessary, even if it is not necessary now. Couples should be limited to two, healthy children. Doing this would stop population growth and gradually reduce population in a humane way.

The problem will be cultural and religious. Institutions like the Catholic Church will oppose it.

Interesting but what about this,

According to statistics, in the past decade in Russia, a million more people die every year than are born. Such figures give various sociologists, politicians, and economists a reason to speak of a demographic crisis in the country. They’re saying that Russian women must be forced by any means to have not just one child but two or more.

Specialists believe that the reduction in the number of children per family is a logical consequence of improved standards of living—the “civilized life.” But Argumenty i Fakty has conducted its own investigation into the question of why Russian women aren’t having babies and has come to the conclusion that civilization has nothing to do with it. In principle, the overwhelming majority of Russian women are not opposed to having children—they’d definitely like to have one, and maybe two. But that’s just talk and wishful thinking that does not always coincide with actual opportunities. According to the Ministry of Health, 5 million to 6 million Russian couples are unable to have children.

DawgBone
17th April 2011, 13:12
Specialists believe that the reduction in the number of children per family is a logical consequence of improved standards of living—the “civilized life.”

Yes. Raising everyone's standard of living would be the preferred way of handling population growth.

With free energy this would actually be possible. The problem, as usual, is with the controlling elite. These people are planetary vampires.

Sharpen your stake ...

Snowbird
18th April 2011, 00:52
Folks, I’m interested in this thread, and peoples perception. Do people agree with this statement. If Bolivia for example were to make this law, do you think it’s a good or bad thing?


"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

David Brower,
First Executive Director of the Sierra Club


I think some form of compulsory birth control will eventually be necessary, even if it is not necessary now. Couples should be limited to two, healthy children. Doing this would stop population growth and gradually reduce population in a humane way.

The problem will be cultural and religious. Institutions like the Catholic Church will oppose it.

There is also the cultural and religious birth gender considerations. In some countries, girls are made soup and boys rule the earth.

Snowbird
18th April 2011, 01:00
My absolute favorites:

"One America burdens the earth much more than
twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say.
In order to stabilize world population,we must eliminate
350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say,
but it's just as bad not to say it."
-Jacques Cousteau,
UNESCO Courier

Okay Mr. Cousteau. 350,000 per day it is, but I get to choose which stay and which go.

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“The extinction of Homo Sapiens would mean survival
for millions, if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species.
Phasing out the human race will solve every
problem on Earth - social and environmental.”
-Ingrid Newkirk,
former President of PETA

And, the envelope, please......

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is the responsibility of each human being today to
choose between the force of darkness and the force of light.
We must therefore transform our attitudes, and adopt a renewed
respect for the superior laws of Divine Nature."
-Maurice Strong,
first Secretary General of UNEP

Do these superior laws of Divine Nature stem from the United Nations? I'm just asking.

Maria Stade
18th April 2011, 07:12
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen .html


http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/hans_rosling_on_global_population_growth.html


http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/hans_rosling_at_state.html

Hans Rosling say:
Education is the key to population problem !

I agree !

It is also infra stuktur in the contry !