Have We Chosen 5D Already?

[Mandala]

Some people theorize we have already chosen 5D or have chosen to remain in 3D when we incarnated.

1. Do you believe the choice is "firm", or having free choice may we alter the decision?

2. Or did we know that we would alter that decision and that was taken into account when we made our original choice?

3. When is the "deadline" for us to make the choice, or is there a deadline?

4. Will earth ascend no matter what the majority decision is?

5. Do higher frequency vibrations from many alter the severity of the changes we might incur?

6. Will there be an Ascension of any kind, or do you feel this is not possible or feasible.

7. Will the change be so subtle it will not have a "wow" impact?

8. Will earth become a parallel earth, divide into two earths as Dolores Cannon theorizes, or.....

9. Will portals open later this year and well into 2012 to allow people to exit earth and ascend?

10. Will UFOs with a positive or negative intention offer to take us off-world?

11. Will some people go "missing" from this earth?

12. The veil will be lifted and we will reorganize and restructure with positive goals for all humans?

13. Nothing notable, hard times same old sh*t.

14. Your belief...

[jorr lundstrom]

15. Will we have a poll on this?

[Heartsong]

What happened to 4D?

[s3nru]

Some people theorize we have already chosen 5D or have chosen to remain in 3D when we incarnated.

1. Do you believe the choice is "firm", or having free choice may we alter the decision?
as with all things in life, our choices are made by our actions

2. Or did we know that we would alter that decision and that was taken into account when we made our original choice?
time and space are an illusion of perception. we have always been 5d and 3d. it's a matter of what your consciousness percieves

3. When is the "deadline" for us to make the choice, or is there a deadline?
you set your own deadline. see above

4. Will earth ascend no matter what the majority decision is?
the earth and many planetary bodies exist on a different scale than humans do, ascension doesn't necessarily apply in the same way. If you're talking about 5d earth, it already exists, always has.

5. Do higher frequency vibrations from many alter the severity of the changes we might incur?
consensus reality involves agreeing at some level on what's happening. the more accurate the agreement, the less severe the changes will be.

6. Will there be an Ascension of any kind, or do you feel this is not possible or feasible.
very possible. the question is, who would you be if you were ascended?

7. Will the change be so subtle it will not have a "wow" impact?
depends on how much change you're willing to see

8. Will earth become a parallel earth, divide into two earths as Dolores Cannon theorizes, or.....
there are already infinite earths. I haven't read or heard any of Dolores' works to comment on her theories.

9. Will portals open later this year and well into 2012 to allow people to exit earth and ascend?
I'm gonna hazard a guess and say that 'portals' have been around on earth for quite some time. It's just our ability to access them that's going to increase in the upcoming period

10. Will UFOs with a positive or negative intention offer to take us off-world?
There may be some sort of exodus of certain extraterrestrial races from earth, ala people leaving Japan. If somebody offers to take you with them, follow your heart. I wouldn't hold my breath hoping for someone to save us though. That's up to us.

11. Will some people go "missing" from this earth?
Missing in the sense they will be missed, yes

12. The veil will be lifted and we will reorganize and restructure with positive goals for all humans?
I really really hope so, kinda think it's happening already

13. Nothing notable, hard times same old sh*t.
It's hard not to let the 'normalcy bias' kick in, but yes things are definitely coming to a head.

14. Your belief...

well all the answers are 'my beliefs' :P Unfortunately we're suffering through the death throes of a cabal of entrenched magicians who have laid roots in the very system we live in. Because the boundaries of this system are being challenged, the cabal is playing hot potato trying to distract, cause fear, and misinform us. I think love, patience and truth are ultimately better tools for a magician to use, and as such we are going to see the shedding of many veils.

[Patrikas]

What happened to 4D?

Perhaps were doing really well like in school and the teacher let us skip a grade :).......stay well

[Davidallany]

Some people theorize we have already chosen 5D or have chosen to remain in 3D when we incarnated.

1. Do you believe the choice is "firm", or having free choice may we alter the decision?

2. Or did we know that we would alter that decision and that was taken into account when we made our original choice?

3. When is the "deadline" for us to make the choice, or is there a deadline?

4. Will earth ascend no matter what the majority decision is?

5. Do higher frequency vibrations from many alter the severity of the changes we might incur?

6. Will there be an Ascension of any kind, or do you feel this is not possible or feasible.

7. Will the change be so subtle it will not have a "wow" impact?

8. Will earth become a parallel earth, divide into two earths as Dolores Cannon theorizes, or.....

9. Will portals open later this year and well into 2012 to allow people to exit earth and ascend?

10. Will UFOs with a positive or negative intention offer to take us off-world?

11. Will some people go "missing" from this earth?

12. The veil will be lifted and we will reorganize and restructure with positive goals for all humans?

13. Nothing notable, hard times same old sh*t.

14. Your belief...
I recommend meditation, many questions will be answered once there is clarity. Clear your mind of all questions to allow for new and fresh information.
Cheers.

[Mandala]

Recently, I was told 4D is our concept of linear time. Kind of like a 3D/4D merge. Until 3 1/2 yrs ago I didn't know there was any D at all. A poll, I know not how to orchestrate one of those. I am a very old dog, no new tricks.

[Mandala]

I was trying to give a visual of the spiritual dimensions pyramid diagram/chart. Can anyone find that? I think that visual would help those who may have questions. It is a hierarchy of spiritual dimensions I have seen on many videos.

[Ahvehvida Shahadaha]

Interesting list. In a way...all those Potentials you list all could happen or not happen. Therefore until we do one COULD view it as a 5th dimensional list in the sense all of those potentials are possible but yet we can view and read them in the form of the list. What will happen would be up to whichever choice the reader chooses is preference. And therefore it will become a fact merely by the belief of said observer.

This is more an abstract comment...not sure how clear we're being if not foggy. Physically yes we are limited to 4levels here but in a way depending on how its viewed we could say the 5th dimension is here as far as sometimes one can view all potential from an action with pause...but thats a bit of a stretch due to chaos theory etc etc. Still...matter of perspective...lol, I agree a chart would help some...we dont have any to load sorry lolol, but take care!

[Lord Sidious]

What happened to 4D?

They ordered in more than they needed so they offered 5d at the 4d price.

[Ahvehvida Shahadaha]

That...lololol...in a sense may be truer then we think. Interesting though and true enough.

[shiva777]

this is what feels right to me...

The Ascension Stargates that were forced closed during the last Stargate Activation Cycle have been taken over by the fallen races. Using these Stargates was Ascension Plan A. These are known as the Gates of Amenti and these gates are being... opened by the fallen races to be used as wormholes. Because these gates have been taken over, the Benevolent Races that are here to aid us through this time are Activating/Opening the Ancient Stargates. These gates are in different physical locations from the Stargates that have been taken over. The Ancient Stargates are only used when a planet is being seeded or evacuated. This gives us the choice of a different course of Ascension which is actually an “Incension” process. This is our alternative option, Ascension Plan B, which is an Incension through the Ancient Stargates.
Ascension Plan A was for the planet and all life on the planet to ascend to the 5th Dimension. The 5th Dimension has been overtaken by the fallen race beings and going there now will ensure a return to Source as space dust. Ascension Plan B, the Incension process, will take us to a higher version of earth “the new earth”. Higher Earth is not perfect; however, it is out from under the control net of the fallen race beings. There is negative/positive polarities on Higher Earth and all the way through the 15th Dimension, however, the polarities are more easily seen and dealt with when we are out from under the fallen race control net.

If that resonates learn more here

this is worth a listen as it answers all the questions that started this thread regarding the fallen 5D earth plane and true ascension

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/adayara-budaea/2011/04/13/adayara-live

[DarkSai]

Some people theorize we have already chosen 5D or have chosen to remain in 3D when we incarnated.

1. Do you believe the choice is "firm", or having free choice may we alter the decision?

2. Or did we know that we would alter that decision and that was taken into account when we made our original choice?

3. When is the "deadline" for us to make the choice, or is there a deadline?

4. Will earth ascend no matter what the majority decision is?

5. Do higher frequency vibrations from many alter the severity of the changes we might incur?

6. Will there be an Ascension of any kind, or do you feel this is not possible or feasible.

7. Will the change be so subtle it will not have a "wow" impact?

8. Will earth become a parallel earth, divide into two earths as Dolores Cannon theorizes, or.....

9. Will portals open later this year and well into 2012 to allow people to exit earth and ascend?

10. Will UFOs with a positive or negative intention offer to take us off-world?

11. Will some people go "missing" from this earth?

12. The veil will be lifted and we will reorganize and restructure with positive goals for all humans?

13. Nothing notable, hard times same old sh*t.

14. Your belief...

disclaimer: all answers are my perspective
1. we always have the choice, but require a certain level of awareness to make it on the right level
2. that choice is/was made outside time; work with what you have NOW.
3. you'll know it when it comes. even if you "miss" it, you're soul lives on :)
4. yes
5. to some extent.. but take a real good hard look at how the MAJORITY of people are
6. some will become 4th density, some will go back to 4th, others will repeat 3rd
7. no.. but it will be like the Flood.. people will be about their business right up till the final moments
8. there are already infinite "parallel earths"
9. an opportunity to "switch lanes" on said parallel Earths (not just any though, i dont think)
10. negative maybe.. no one learns from being "saved"
11. people go "missing" from earth all the time
12. there will still be some "obstacles" before that happens quite so smoothly
13. to some degree, but it will be a "level playing field" with said obstacles.

[buckminster fuller]

One thing I take as a certainty is that there will be no escaping from our slow, learning based evolution. It is not going to be easy in anyway, and we'd better be working on setting the right conditions for us here and now, instead of giving up and looking forward to something that could be just a fantasy.

Peace

[Tahi]

What happened to 4D?

Perhaps were doing really well like in school and the teacher let us skip a grade :).......stay well

Hahaha thanks for the chuckle Patrikas :jester:.

Some would argue that we should be graduating high school. But the majority havent even started pre school yet.

Peace

[MariaDine]

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Namasté :)

[MariaDine]

this is what feels right to me...

The Ascension Stargates that were forced closed during the last Stargate Activation Cycle have been taken over by the fallen races. Using these Stargates was Ascension Plan A. These are known as the Gates of Amenti and these gates are being... opened by the fallen races to be used as wormholes. Because these gates have been taken over, the Benevolent Races that are here to aid us through this time are Activating/Opening the Ancient Stargates. These gates are in different physical locations from the Stargates that have been taken over. The Ancient Stargates are only used when a planet is being seeded or evacuated. This gives us the choice of a different course of Ascension which is actually an “Incension” process. This is our alternative option, Ascension Plan B, which is an Incension through the Ancient Stargates.
Ascension Plan A was for the planet and all life on the planet to ascend to the 5th Dimension. The 5th Dimension has been overtaken by the fallen race beings and going there now will ensure a return to Source as space dust. Ascension Plan B, the Incension process, will take us to a higher version of earth “the new earth”. Higher Earth is not perfect; however, it is out from under the control net of the fallen race beings. There is negative/positive polarities on Higher Earth and all the way through the 15th Dimension, however, the polarities are more easily seen and dealt with when we are out from under the fallen race control net.

If that resonates learn more here

this is worth a listen as it answers all the questions that started this thread regarding the fallen 5D earth plane and true ascension

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/adayara-budaea/2011/04/13/adayara-live

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There is an arab saying.

«Don´t belive everything you see, it may not be the truth. So, belive only maybe half of what you see. But is better to dout that half, too ! »

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A. Dean teachings, seem to me, to have a very restricted spreading. Country wise, I mean. Besides the language barrier, maybe a book should be in order. Workshops are very, very expensive. So, a massive spread of Info is not achived. Which seems to be a contradition to the purpose of teaching the people in large nunbers, and so to make a difference.


Namasté

[Bob_2011]

It has to be number 13, nose to the grindstone, unless you know somthing i dont, anyone !

[DoubleHelix]

this is what feels right to me...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/adayara-budaea/2011/04/13/adayara-live

Shiva I'll take this moment to ask you a question others may be thinking..

How can you attack and disregard George Kavassilas's material meanwhile labelling it new age and flakey.

And then subscribe to the experiences and material of this so called 'new age' Teacher?

When in essence there both talking about similar subjects and material.

[Patrikas]

What happened to 4D?

They ordered in more than they needed so they offered 5d at the 4d price.

Dont ya just love a bargain ....;)

[Patrikas]

What happened to 4D?

Perhaps were doing really well like in school and the teacher let us skip a grade :).......stay well

Hahaha thanks for the chuckle Patrikas :jester:.

Some would argue that we should be graduating high school. But the majority havent even started pre school yet.

Peace

Your welcome Tahi,, and on a more serious note .....what u say for me is correct .....its back to class for many consciousness wether in form.. or not in form .there are many "teachers" and value of understanding is the knowing for each .my understanding of this 3rd 4th 5th dimension which is not really my expertise is that th 4th is/was a transitional thing for earth an all that is upon or connected to her as a way of assisting what is happening in the bigger picture of the divine plan and is related to time.., and "the quickening " blessings to yah

[beyondmyctrl]

What happened to 4D?

They ordered in more than they needed so they offered 5d at the 4d price.

ROFL!!! me likes :)