Experience with a touch of Masonic - New member eagerly seeks feedback

[Random]

Hello I am a new member here on the Avalon forums, My name is Roger and I am lucky enough to have been born in Canada; The purpose of my post today is to kindly request some feedback, insight or comments on an experience I had approximately 7-8 years ago, I do include a experience from childhood as well. I should say that I cannot give the story in the correct timeline rather I can say that all the experiences happened within approximately 6 months aside from the childhood experience, I wont be able to give full details, only because some things I cannot put into words, and certain segments of the experience were so jam packed with, for lack of a better word data, I cant chunk up into sizable bytes for conversion to English. I should also state that this is simply my experience and not necessarily my beliefs I’m not advocating the belief in any of what I say. I’m simply searching for some kind of response from anyone open minded enough to not jam pills down my throat.

I should say that, at the time or at least after the experience had run its course; I was taken into the mental health system, and I do mean taken. I was drugged and told We don't know exactly whats going on but we think your having a psychotic episode, I did refuse the drugs but was forced to take them, after being released I was referred to a psychiatrist whom I get along with well, he supports my decision to not use drugs and after many years admits I'm not mentally ill and probably never was.

First I will get the child hood experience out of the way, I must say I hesitated about adding this knowing how some feel about the Masonic; I should confirm I am not and never have been a member of the masonic, I do not have any knowledge about them other then whats publicly available. However, My grandfather was a Master Mason where I live, My Father his son in law joined the Masonic at his request, My father is also a Master Mason neither of them have given me any information about anything, and after my grandfather got sick from old age they both stopped attending meetings. Now onto the experience. When I was around 10-11 years old I was at my grandfathers house, My father and Grandfather had just returned from the Masonic Lodge, they were sitting on the couch talking and I was sitting on the floor, My grandfather looked over at me, and said to my father “he is” My fathers eyes opened widely and he looked as if he had seen a ghost, My father asked him “how do you know” I could not hear my grandfathers exact response, I remember him saying something about “his eyes, and its in the blood line”. “He said he would have me in it only I was to young” I assume he meant the masonic. Around this same time frame, my grandfather yelled at me for something, he only ever did this once. But later I found him in a cold basement crying like I have never seen a man cry, so much that he could hardly breathe and when I entered this man begged me from the bottom of his heart to forgive him "can you ever forgive me, what have I done" he said.

At the time I knew there was something significant about this, only I had no idea why. Later in life, I now understand I mite be right to suspect there is something significant about it. Seems simple but I felt compelled to surrender this information.

The real meat and potatoes happened around age 17 When this began it ramped up slowly, I began to feel something change, something about me was different, without knowing why I began to feel more spiritual, powerful, and generally a bit odd. After some time I remember starting to hear things and to get “large” ideas totally out of the ordinary. I should clarify that, when I say hear I don't mean I experienced an audible voice, I heard it internally much like my own inner voice when I'm talking and thinking to myself only it was not my inner voice, some mite call this telepathy.

One afternoon when I was sitting on my couch experiencing some of these things, The voice asked me “Do you want in on a secret ?” and I replied in the same manner, internally, “yes” but I emotionally hesitated, I sensed that it could sense that I hesitated so it asked “are you sure ? Once your in you cannot go back “ I thought I’ve always been someone who wants the truth even if it is painful so yes I am sure. This is when things really began to take off I immediately felt an incredible energy it was as if my mind was linked to something, and my experiences became very vivid at this point visions mite even be a better word. During the experiences you could ask questions, and while it would answer you it would instead try to guide you to the right answer and when you got it it would then confirm that it was correct.

In one vision in my minds eye I saw a very vivid picture of the planet as if I were in space looking down on it, and on the planet was an enormous pyramid, Everything was flowing into and out of the pyramid, into and out of. There were slaves in lines all tied together working around the pyramid, and the experience was that the pyramid was the center of everything, nothing happened on planet earth unless the pyramid had something to do with it.

I was guided To learn and realize that there was no heaven and hell, to realize borders were man made and there were no country's or city's, It was just planet earth and the human race. I was guided to understand that humanity had gone to far there was far to much evil and it had to stop, I sensed that whatever was communicating with me along with its peers felt great empathy for humans and while there last resort was to harm us, the evil had to go it had gone to far, and there would likely be violence and killings but it was the only way to salvage the situation and it emotionally killed them to do it. I was guided to understand that every human on planet earth would be given up to the last second to change his heart his mind his ways and if he did he would be safe, but it was a join us or die scenario because Something powerful and loving in the universe was so hurt watching us it had to end even if it meant violence. I was to understand that there was some sort of time limit, and if the situation could not be salvaged in time a bomb would cause the human race and planet earth to cease existing, I am unable to clarify if the bomb scenario is real or metaphorical. I was shown wars, corruption, and pure evil spiritual evil. I had asked it, why we (we being the group that was in contact with me and that I “may” be a part of) hold the power of the planet, if we are so kind and caring Why not steal the power from evil people and just give it back to humans, its reply was that it would if it could and we had tried this before, but the minute we release power and give it back, evil will only swoop in and take it again, so it had been decided that someone genuine empathetic and trust worthy, but also someone strong enough to do things that had to be done even if they were grey hat was to hold the power guard it from evil and use it properly. I was guided to understand that I was to play a significant role in some mission, in some goal, and I was given the option of consciously and physically communicating getting orders and carrying out those while being fully aware, or I could be guided silently without knowing it, and carry out the directions without fully knowing whats going on, this way It would be easier to carry on with a semi normal life.

It was suggested to me to take this to a level where I would experience Off planet beings, But I refused this and wanted to keep it on a spiritual level, at the time the off planet beings scenario would have been to much. I had a vision of a the inside of a woman's stomach with a baby in it, much like one of those photos you get from the hospital only it was all in pink, 2 weeks later someone I knew told me there wife was pregnant with a girl. I was guided to understand that I would be protected, and somehow I was important, though I downplay the feeling of importance, and act like everyone else.

There was more, much more information that flowed in, and while I feel the information is there in my mind I cant get at it, I feel I'm deliberately only allowed to remember and see so much for the sake of my own sanity. However, after it had finished giving me all the information, this is when things shifted gears, and the “delusion's began” And I was tossed into various scenarios violence, power, love, hate, corruption, and I found myself on both sides of these scenarios at different times, Its my feeling now that these delusion's/experiences, were meant as some form of training or preparation.

I genuinely wish I could pull more information and more of the experience, but its difficult. Maybe this first surrender of information will open the gates for more to flow. At any rate, I kindly ask for anyone with any hypothesis regarding my experience to comment, anything at all in the form of a reply or response please respond with whatever it is you feel like saying.

Best Regards:

[gardunk]

Thanks for sharing your story with us and please try to be aware in a conscious manner to invoke a protective energy around yourself in what ever way you can. Is there any active military in your background or family that may be projecting thoughts to you? Does this empowrr or disempower you? Try to meditate on some of these thoughts and ask what it means and where you are going...good fortune to you!

[Siberia9]

I think you came to the right place, if your mentaly ill then we are all nuts over here, so throw that label in the toilet and flush it, move on form that. Im new here as well and for me just reading the endless info thats already here is very usefull. I think you will find that some of the info you need will come to you here if you let it flow.

[Nyce555]

I also had a vision of ths pyramid. It was very important and when I saw it, there was a beam of light coming out from the top of it. It held a force of power greater than we could ever know. I also agree with gardunk. Surround yourself with the protective white light and evil will not come to you.

[boja]

Hello Roger (Random),
Although I'm only a new member myself, welcome to the Avalon Forum.
Your post was very interesting, and I'm sure there are members here who will be happy to comment on your experiences, and possibly help you understand them.
Maybe as you become able to "pull more information", we can all assist in piecing things together.

Kind regards.

[KosmicKat]

Without knowing you a great deal better than is possible through the medium of electronic communications, I think it would be irresponsible of me to comment on your experiences, but I think it is safe to say that some elements of what you have related agree quite closely with some of the things I am studying now.

[delaware]

Hi Random, thank you for your openness, your experience is really interesting and worth to be told. take care

[Random]

Thank you all for your reply, There is one person in my family that is active in the military. Its my understanding he has advanced quite a bit, While at times I do indeed feel as though there is some kind of projection from him, It has always been positive as far as I can tell.

Its interesting one of you are studying something that relates to what I have said, If possible I would be open to knowing a bit more about it.

Again thanks for all the replys I was very pleased to see such a quick and warm response.

Best Regards:

[Lettherebelight]

I too had a strange experience with a pyramid when I was young, I was drawn to lie down and place a crystal pyramid on my forehead. In spite of having no understanding at all about pyramids, I indeed proceeded to do this regularly, my conservative family thought I was nuts..in fact I wondered myself why I was doing it! I have also had images of bizarre rituals appear in my mind throughout my childhood, although I don't know where they could have possibly came from. Same with dreams that felt prophetic. We all have these unexplained occurances...don't we? I dunno...(maybe not!)

What I'm trying to say, Random, is these things still remain a mystery to me. Visions, dreams, images...some are received fom deep within the psyche (past life?), some are malevolent outside energies, some may even be messages from a divine source.

Prayer (or meditation) is helpful if you're seeking answers. Just never feel alone and always try to keep yourself in good association, that way you'll always be protected as you execute your life's mission, whatever that may be.

I'm not trying to dictate, just offering some advice that I hope will help.

Thanks for sharing and welcome to Avalon. :)

[Random]

Thanks very much Lettherbelight, very kind words; seems the pyramid is a common theme for a lot of people, and is somehow linked to a large portion of information.

[Siberia9]

Yeah it seems most people Ive talked to have seen the pyramid deal too. I never really thought much of it myself. I saw it again recently and this time I was standing at one corner looking up the ridge to the top where a large vortex of energy was flowing. Just to my right and in front of the pyramid was the mass of people chained togather in two's side by side, they were moving in long lines pulling somthing. I normally see whats about to hapen but this is differant, not the past either it has some other meaning. Perhaps another demension? I have a dislike for all that Egypt mess, I wont even have pyramid stuff in my house. Maybe because I associate it with the Illuminati and you can be sure that I have a dislike for that crowd. There are some here that have alot more clearity than myself, perhaps they can shed some light on it. Or just forget it till it clicks in place, thats when its of use, not really before.

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

May i ask where this leaves you spirituality-wise?

[Arrowwind]

If I were going to try to make an interpretation I would say that the book of life has opened for you.
In this you can read all the information about your soul journey present past and future.

This information has come to you because on some level, either conscious or unconscious you have called for it or prepared for it.

This question is now, what to do with it.
Rather than try to discern all the details and try to understand them you might first try to feel the energetic picture.
What is the story trying to tell you energetically about the planet, the people, and your own self.

In reality all things are energetic. All action, all behavior, all beliefs carry an energetic print

If you can learn from the energy of it you may get a greater sense of the message.

Once you get a sense of the energetic feel of the events you can start to determine what thy might mean to you personally.
Where do your associatons lie, what is the energy you project, or that you respond to? How does this resonate in your mind/body/sprit complex.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to get at.

knowing parts of our book of life can help us to make current decision and direct our movie with more consciousness when we can see the energetic imprints of other events.. If the energy is not right then you have to re-inact some events either symbolically or physically to get the energy right. What is right? that which opens before you more growth, opportunity for experience and when that is in alignment with the higher self intent for growing into god it will "feel" good.

[Random]

Spiritually I am a bit sporadic, there are times when I dont focus a lot on it, other times I do. I dont practice any specific discipline of spiritually, At times I do meditate sometimes with sometimes without music. The experience certainly did awaken me to spiritually. I generally keep an open mind, but im also guarded, Theres plenty of room for more of this, but I tend to get creeped out easily, So I go slow. It is only recently I've been exploring my mind, the experience had me scared so I put it out of my mind for quite some time.

And then there are the things that happen regardless of my current engagement in spirituality I do still feel im being guided on a regular basis, sometimes its feelings, non threatneing inner voices, event sequances matching up, a combination of all these things. No matter how big the holes have been I jumped into, somehow there was always an exit and I escaped without to much damage.

Im not sure what else to say, though if you think of anything specific feel free to probe Im basicly an open book at this point.

Best Regards:

[RedeZra]

Hi Random

Can you describe the voice that spoke to you ?

Was it a whisper or was it clear ?

[Random]

Hi Random

Can you describe the voice that spoke to you ?

Was it a whisper or was it clear ?

I had to think about this a while to decide, The voice was and is generally a whisper or very low volume. During the main experience 7 years ago, whisper was more common, in recent times a low volume clear voice is more common. When Im able to distinguish at all its generally a female voice, on occasion male but thats rare.

[Random]

Now then. I would like to sincerly thank all of you for your warm replys; each and every one of them gives me a such a great feeling. I had expected to wait days for any reply, but I got my first one in minutes.

My knowledge of this stuff is barely amature so if I may I would like to pose a more direct question. I'm hopeing someone with more facts than I will see this and be able to offer a hypothesis.

If we consider what we know about Masons, specifically those higer up; and we pool that with what we know about bloodlines. What possible blood line was my grandfather refering too. I would very much like to have some sort of lead here so I can research the possibility's. And assuming we can answer the question of bloodline is there anyway for me to scientificly prove or disprove that I am from the blood line. Thanks in advance for any leads.

Best Regards:

[Arrowwind]

Spiritually I am a bit sporadic, there are times when I dont focus a lot on it, other times I do. I dont practice any specific discipline of spiritually, At times I do meditate sometimes with sometimes without music. The experience certainly did awaken me to spiritually. :

It is an illusion that you are sporadic in your spirituality. You and your spirituality are fully integrated. You do not exist outside of spirituality.
One does not necessarily need to be "conscious" of a spiritual path to grow in ones spiritual unfoldment. Your mere existence reveals that you are in an unfolding process, regarless of how fast or slow it may appear.

Since your recent ancestors were masons that gives you full right to walk up to a masonic lodge and ask for admission and membership.
If you really want answers regarding your bloodline they would be the only ones that could possibly answer your questions on this planet...that I know of.. But you likely would not receive any answer until you reach a 32 or 33 degree, if even then, as there is rumored that there are levels even above these, you may have to enter that level first.

I have known a few fairly advanced masons, one a very dear friend and there was no informaiton for him regarding blood line,bu thtere may not have been any to have for him. Not all masons I assume are connected to any significant blood line as it is a group that is open to membership for all with invitaiton, considering you are willing to take their oath. It is questionable if the blood line thing is true. Lots of talk and no proof that I have seen, but proof, if the stories are true would not be available to "common" people.

Unlike many here I do not have perceptions of evil regarding masons, especially those of the lower levels.... I think much todo has been made of little. The highest level mason I ever met was a physician, he was a 32 degree, and he was totally involved in the running of a shriners childrens hospital, in Salt Lake City... Shriners hospitals provide free and very complex medial care to children with deformaties of various sorts.

Many movers and shakers of our current culture are Masons of one degree or another and you will find them in all walks of life and in all professions. Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon Church was a mason as many who followed him in that religion.. Masons have no religous regulations but only to swear a fatih in God.

I recommend two books to you, The Nature of Personal Reality and the Seth Material, both written by Jane Roberts and available used on www.amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com) This may answer many questions for you. For best comprehension read the Seth Materail first... for the other is way more advanced

[Random]

I struggle with joining anything where by I don't know the full nature of what im joining. However, you are correct; I could easily gain official membership.

[phillipbbg]

I struggle with joining anything where by I don't know the full nature of what im joining. However, you are correct; I could easily gain official membership.

What brought you to this forum? As it is something you have to join which has some commitment requirements as such. I am sure and hope that your experience will be fulfilling in the ways you require.

Also if you were to become a mason as the son of a mason you would be whats called a Lewis. Not sure about a grandson of a mason but I am sure you could find out.
Here is a link to an explanation of the symbolic lewis which should help you with the connections if that is what you are being pushed toward....
http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/falclewis.html

[Arrowwind]

I struggle with joining anything where by I don't know the full nature of what im joining. However, you are correct; I could easily gain official membership.

Then you will never join anything for reality is ever shifting, and the game plan forever changes. and no one knows the full nature of anything. Once you are in you become a co-creator. There is always choice. Working up the degrees is not easy for every step of the way is backed by public service..

My father was a Mason. Part of his public service was the volunteer fire department. When he died the local branch sent a hefty check to may mom, who was still raising 3 children. Saved her hide. They do many many good things along their journey.

Since your heritage is all wrapped up in the Masons there is where many of the answers to your questions may lie. You will never figure it out from the outside looking in cause they don't let you look in. But it is only one potential reality for you. There are many choices, guess it depends on how important some questions are that need to be answered to you.

[majapahit]

.. My knowledge of this stuff is barely amature ..
What possible blood line was my grandfather refering too. ..
I'd be rather carefull with this ..
.. and keep in mind Bill R. was told he is bloodline of King Arthur
.. and see what that got him where :cool:

- we're nearing '2012' and also in the masonic this is a special date
- so whatever your special personality that drew your grandfather attention & awe, involving perhaps reincarnation of something Merovingian or Carolingian (Arthur, Merlin, Cathar ?), and, mind you, these are/were always infighting each other (to the death, that is), and considering this would still induce your grandfathers awe (because masons leadership is a bloodthirsty bunch) .. all (paths) is up in the air, in these weirdest of weird, times
- it appears your father and relatives weren't too impressed with Freemasonry
- and may I suggest you shouldn't either .. for many reasons .. but is up to you of course (that you are here seems a tell tale)

.. having - natural, inborn - 'knowledge' (is that the case?) about something with such wide historic meaning as pertaining the forces of Freemasonry can be of some value of course ..
.. you might be able to 'relate' fact and fiction (the childish theater of masonic ritual) and distinguish between value and the degenerate & corrupt (ahum, what would I be saying here)

on an aside of late, i've noticed, because there's a children's playground just in front of my house, there's a lot of - what certain people call - 'indigo' children, in my neighborhood .. they're really clever (at 5-8 years old, quite amazing)

.. after some thought ..
.. one could be in awe of this
.. or merely wish them good luck
.. in a time frame that seems to bode not much well

[Random]

Thank you all for your replys, reading and responding to this thread has taken me through various thoughts and feelings, I find it confirms what I had been feeling. I should stay on the ground and focus on tangible things, I should think of my experience as nothing more then a chemical action/reaction in my brain, I should embrace tangible facts that can be proven and ignore subjectivity. The masons can do what they like, I feel no need to join them nore do I really care who or what they are. My blood serves to keep me alive and thats good enough explanation for me. Spirituality... Well lets hope (if it even really exists beyond a chemicaly induced experience) it drifts into the background because im tired and need the mental energy to focus on academia, I think closest thing to a religion or spiritual disipline I can be comfortable with is science, Thank you all. This is quite a significant realization and will take me where I need to go. I cant thank you enough for aiding me in this.

*Note* I offer my greatest respect and am not intending to offend anyone who is spiritual.

Best Regards:

[Shezbeth]

Welcome Random.

The memories and information you cannot access are/is lying dormant. They will emerge when the proper events or thoughts trigger them but not before, as they would only complicate your situation beforehand - that much I can say with certainty. I further suggest that some of the information pertains to particular moments in your future, which will not properly manifest if you had full access to the information you have seen/been shown.

Arrowwind is correct in that the vast majority of Masonic members are not participants or even knowledgeable of NWO conspiracies, however the order it's self has likely been coopted to serve what Powers That Be (PTB) there may be. Suffice it to say, you would not be in danger from inquiring or joining the Masons until/unless you reach the upper echelons and began actively disrupting the established order. Furthermore, it is quite probable that membership would give you indirect training and experience, as well as put you in contact with individuals who might benefit your journey. I would advise you not discount the possibility of membership.

[Donna O]

Thank you Random for a very interesting story. All I humbly have to say to you is that you must go on a journey of self discovery before anything will start making sense. You may like to start by understanding the different areas of you inner being and Eckhart Tolle has helped me immensely to make sense of my own thoughts and feelings. I found a way to put things into perspective and block out the unnecessary dialogue that merely serves to confuse and disorganize a person. Just look for Eckhart tolle on youtube and you will find much interesting material.

Following what your instinct is telling you to do is paramount, don’t look for direction outside of yourself, meditate constantly until you become familiar with your inner being and start to trust yourself and your intuition.

Finally, if science is calling out to you then go, this will never mean that you are not spiritual, you do not need to act a certain way or do certain things to be a spiritual person, you simply are, in your own very unique way – as are we all. Do your own thing, follow your individual path…… and please come back and share any more memories with us whenever you can, it helps to get things out into the open.

Take care

P.S. always keep on the look out for synchronisity, it will give you priceless clues on your journey down here in 3D and is worth all of the analytical thinking you can shake a stick at ;)

[Arrowwind]

The one thing that conventional science ignores is our humanity and all the complex and incomprehensible experiences we have... they prefering to write such activity and adventure off as subjective, folly and foolery to the masses....

they do this to keep you paralized by fear of your very own growth... science and religion... they are the two sides of the dark force that has collectively endeavored to keep us in spiritual bondage and immersed in material fears and gains.

But there is the other less commonly known side to science that many of Bill's whistleblowers talk of... so if you listen to those storis you will find out what science really believes and would prefer you not to know...

Science knows of your spiriutal immortality, and your spiritual power.

But the system of science is controlled by the powers that be that do not want you to know that you are multidimensional, psychic, and able to read the future and the past. They do not want you to know that you create your reality.. they do not want you to know how devine you really are.. and if they could, if they would harness your powers as they, those scientists, are trained to turn your god given powers to the dark... and so they do with people around the world everyday.

But you, if you allow yourself to unfold, if you allow yourself to listen to the inner subjective self, the small voice with in, to respond to the impulse that urges you to get up and do what you have not done before, to acknowledge the visions and dreams, the voices of the ancestors,,, they are all trying to awaken you to your very own potential, uncontrolled, unhindered by dogma from a controlling force.... for these voices, these experiences are within you, from you, from withi your awakened side that dwells just on the other side of the veil , it is they that are calling you, and they are you, it is you that is calling you... calling you to meet your true self.

[Siberia9]

Dag gum Arrowwind thats heavy duty, thats one for the printer. Should be reqiured reading for all the newbys here.

[Sidney]

Hi Roger, thank you for sharing your story. (we all have our own; and no you are NOT crazy):p
Just a thought, would it be possible to ask your mother?
Second, have you considered regression? (hypnotism). That could give you answers that no Mason meeting could.

[Random]

Hi Roger, thank you for sharing your story. (we all have our own; and no you are NOT crazy):p
Just a thought, would it be possible to ask your mother?
Second, have you considered regression? (hypnotism). That could give you answers that no Mason meeting could.

Even if my mother did know something, my chances of getting that woman to tell the truth for once in her life are less then the chances of a fart in the wind.

I have considered regression, infact one of the interviews on camelot gave me the idea I believe it was with dolores cannon, I looked it up and found someone locally that practices, but.. I dunno Im creeped out, I feel like I should be careful.

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ArrowWind Thats a pretty amazing post, I cant do it justice with any reply accept; Thank you

[bluestflame]

i have also seen a golden pyramid ...only thing is the point was downwards

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ancestral memory , genetic inheritance

[grapevine]

Just a note here to say that when I read ground breaking thread's such as Random's - and Omniverse too, just to name another - I get so drowsy when I'm reading them that I feel the PTB don't want me to read them. I have to have two or three shots at it and take them real slow. But they're always worth the effort. Well done Random for having the courage to bare everything. You are definitely among friends here .... x

Does anyone else get the drowsy thing or is it just me.......? It's most peculiar - cannot keep my eyes open....

[RedeZra]

Hi Random

Can you describe the voice that spoke to you ?

Was it a whisper or was it clear ?

I had to think about this a while to decide, The voice was and is generally a whisper or very low volume. During the main experience 7 years ago, whisper was more common, in recent times a low volume clear voice is more common. When Im able to distinguish at all its generally a female voice, on occasion male but thats rare.

Yes an astral being can communicate with you so as the voice appear to come from within as in telepathy

Within your own physical body is your astral body and that is why you can communicate with invisible astral beings

Now not all of these astral beings are working for the good of mankind so to speak so you have to use your own discernment about these invisible beings


Not every voice within is from God ; )

[Herbert]

I don’t know that this will be of any help Random since your experience, as you describe it, seems much more extensive than mine. But mine was certainly profound for me and I did feel like I was going crazy at the time, but there was no pyramid or visual images involved. Well except that I remember staring out the kitchen window at a bird feeder which was sort of shaped like a pyramid I guess you could say.

There was certainly something outside of myself going on because the tape recorder in the room which someone was using kept shooting the tape up to the ceiling when this was happening.

It happened about 25 years ago and the parallel with your experience was that I was being directed to learn something by being asked questions and being guided or mentally tortured (I thought at the time) to work out the exact correct response to the questions. As I recall there were four questions and the group asking them had a name for themselves which I have never told anyone, and they also had a leader whose name I’ve never revealed. Not because it is a secret but because I am waiting to find out if anyone can spontaneously mention this name and group without any input from me. That would verify the truth of it for me.

There has not been anything in my family to do with masons or the military except a couple of elderly uncles who indicated I could join the masons but I had no desire to belong to any group. In fact I have always been a loner, valuing independence and, come to think of it, I don’t know why I joined Avalon. I find it very strange and can’t seem to remember what made me join, although it was relatively recent. Perhaps it is because I felt the connection with people who have always stood up for the underdog in wanting to free people from slavery.

There was more to my experience but not actually important to this thread.

Assuming I did not misinterpret your description of your experience Random, I have two questions:

Did you ever find out a name for the group?

Can you elaborate on the questions you were trained to answer?

[Random]

Did you ever find out a name for the group?

Can you elaborate on the questions you were trained to answer?

I never did confirm a name for the group and im not sure if they were off planet, human, or something else. My only guess given some of the history and family ties is the Masonic or at least related to that in some way. My feeling at the end of it all is I agreed to joined it, whatever it was

It's difficult to remember, which when I think about it; is slightly odd given the dramatic nature of it all. A nutshell recap would be I was guided to see the past, and possible futures; I was guided to understand my own personal power. I was guided to see the true nature of the current situation on planet earth, It got incredibly horrific at times; Its very difficult to remember specifics. I will continue to try and remember more if I think of something more specific I will add an update to this post.

[enfoldedblue]

Hi Random,

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I went through something a little bit similar to you many years ago. I wrote about it here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17244-Behind-the-Scenes. I put more background info in post #8. I would also like to recommend a book called 'Initiation' by Elizabeth Haich. The book is an account of her remembering a past-life in Egypt. At one point she speaks of a secret mystery school that exists beyond the basic confines of this reality. Beings that are students of this mystery school, who are incarnated here get contacted when the time is right for teaching to begin. This resonates with my experiences.

LOVE ALLways, c

[TimelessDimensions]

masonry can teach you how to kill/refine your ego and prepare you for death (ego-death).
however, masonry can also be used as a system of control because of it's pyramid structure and
poor screening process, this allows ignorant and weak people to rise to the top.
meanwhile, aren't true leaders wise and strong? so be critical of those who offer you things.
don't get too caught up with the "secrets", you can learn more from other sources outside of masonry.

[Fred Steeves]

Random, was a sword passed down to you?


Cheers,
Fred S.

[Random]

Random, was a sword passed down to you?


Cheers,
Fred S.

No sword was passed down to me, I am however in posession of masonic text reserved for masters; The book is sort of encrypted with a large portion of strings of words like "Great architect of the universe" are spelled G.A.O.T.U - My findings are the book is basicly an manual for masters conducting initiation of members at varying degrees I have a newer version, and an old version which my Grandfather wrote in, I cant understand the symbols and encoded words he wrote.

I dont have my grandfathers certificate but I do have my fathers Masters certificate, If anything I mite use it as a pass at some point :)

If it makes a difference, These things were offered to me; I did not steal or come into there possesion by chance.

*note* Just for the record, While the rituals are certainly out of the oridinary; my current understanding of the text rules out some of the assumptions about lucifer and blood/sex related rituals.

Im going to assume there at least a few official Masons here, please feel free to engage.

Seems my initial title "a touch of masonic" was slightly underestimated

[elysian]

Just a note here to say that when I read ground breaking thread's such as Random's - and Omniverse too, just to name another - I get so drowsy when I'm reading them that I feel the PTB don't want me to read them. I have to have two or three shots at it and take them real slow. But they're always worth the effort. Well done Random for having the courage to bare everything. You are definitely among friends here .... x

Does anyone else get the drowsy thing or is it just me.......? It's most peculiar - cannot keep my eyes open....

Yes, I agree. Very interesting.. Same thing happened to me here and on Omniverse thread. Weird, It is like I have to force my self to get through it. My mind turns in to a blur when reading certain posts. I have to read certain posts 2-3 times aswell.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

My response mirrors Arrowwinds, so I will not repeat what he put so well.

I do feel compelled to caution you on one point.

Be wary of coming to an absolute conclusion too quickly.

Anyone who applies a label to your experience without intensive study is most likely projecting, rather than reflecting.

I am no scholar, but I do know this: The universe is only as vast as you allow it to be through your perception.

If you convince yourself that your experiences were the result of a chemical imbalance, you will find the universe eager to resize itself to that frame of existence for you.

If you convince yourself that you are in communication with an off world intelligence, you will see signs of this everywhere.

My advice is to embrace the experience, as a student of life, with no preconceived notions if what it happening.

You are the master of this experience. Nothing can have power over you unless you allow it to. You are an infinite being, you are everything.

Be at peace, and enjoy the journey. After all, you are the one who chose to be here for it in the first place :)

Trust your highest self, and know that you contain the power of the universe within you.

[Random]

Hello:
Another portion of the experience has been remembered; During the the time I was having these experiences. I felt compelled to walk outside into my garden wearing only shorts, I did go out into my garden, I stood up straight and extended both of my arms I would have looked like a cross. When I did this a swarm of white moth looking things flew over and covered my entire body; at the time I remember feeling like these were soilders white soilders representing "the good side" if there is such a thing I was told these were my soilders or more accurately soilders belonging to a paticular group which I could command If I wanted, after standing there for a few minutes I gently shook them off, Only I did not physically shake I sort of emmited a soft wave of energy to shake them off.

We did have a lot of "regular" moths in our garden at the time, but even if they were regular moths.. strange behavior for a moth isnt it ?

Anyhow felt compelled to surrender this, thank you.