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Gita

20th May 2010, 09:03

Thanks Viking. :thumb:

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Killing Our World

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We've been through so much in the last ten years. So much damage has been done in so many places and in so many ways. Millions of people have died in wars and acts of terrorism, of disease and starvation and neglect and atrocity. Our Constitution has been ravaged, our economy pillaged, New Orleans was shattered and Detroit has been left to rot. The Supreme Court sealed the deal and made us all slaves to the corporate ethic, which scantly exists beyond a profit motive devoid of morals or genuine patriotism.

But something in those pictures makes me feel worse than I have in a long time, even after encompassing every other horror we have endured. I can't explain why; worse things have happened than this Gulf spill (maybe), but my heart hurts and my gut feels hollow when I look at the pictures, and I cannot weep.

"According to a news release from the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, reported the Times-Picayune over the weekend, "Capt. Lyle Dehart of the shrimping vessel Rocking Angel caught oily shrimp around midnight on Friday in Bayou Severin, near Sister Lake. Shrimpers on the boat reported that their fingers stuck together when they touched the shrimp." The report went on to state that large swaths of fishing grounds, both offshore and inshore, are being closed. The Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals has allowed several previously-closed oyster beds reopened, so fishermen can race in and harvest what they can before the oil arrives and annihilates the ecosystem.
Their fingers stuck together.

Our world.

I don't have a great deal of confidence in the information we've been given about exactly what is happening at the site of the leak, 5,000 feet below the surface of the sea. British Petroleum and government officials have pegged the amount of oil spillage at 5,000 barrels a day, but there are a whole lot of voices claiming the number could be several times higher. On Monday, the UK Guardian reported:

Ocean scientists in the Gulf of Mexico have found giant plumes of oil coagulating at up to 1,300 meters below the surface, raising fears that the BP oil spill may be larger than thought - and that it might create huge "dead zones."
Members of the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology have been traversing the area around the scene of the Deepwater Horizon, the rig that exploded and sank on 20 April.

Using the latest sampling techniques, they have identified plumes up to 20 miles away from the Deepwater Horizon well head that continues to spew oil into the water at a rate of at least 790,000 liters a day. The largest plume found so far was 90 meters thick, three miles wide and ten miles long.
Samantha Joye, marine science professor at the University of Georgia, who is working on the project, told the Guardian, "The plumes are abundant throughout the region. I would say they've become characteristic of this environment."
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"Don't think of this as extinction," said Palahniuk's Tyler Durden, before he knew he was Tyler Durden. "Think of this as downsizing. For thousands of years, human beings had screwed up and trashed and crapped on this planet, and now history expected me to clean up after everyone. I have to wash out and flatten my soup cans. And account for every drop of motor oil. And I have to foot the bill for nuclear waste and buried gasoline tanks and land filled toxic sludge dumped a generation before I was born."
Our world, now.

Welcome to the future.

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Full article. (http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/destruction/news.php?q=1274330631)

Gita

20th May 2010, 09:28

I don't know what David Wilcock and many other channelers were thinking when they said Obama was a lightworker, more a darkworker perhaps.....?

I try to look upon things positively so I’d rather use the term a false Lightworker!:laugh:

Gita

20th May 2010, 09:37

U.S. Coast Guard Threatens CBS Reporters With Arrest For Filming BP Oil Spill

-UbtuLjEyVA

Etherios

20th May 2010, 09:50

So since when does a company makes that area of the sea private property and have the right to order ppl around? Or did the US gave away the sea in the golf of mexico?

On an other note... we will be seeing dead animals for months if not years from this ... the environmental damage from this is .... tho as a friend of mine say ... who cares big brother and the other series are going on as planned all is well (/sarkasm off)

bluestflame

20th May 2010, 10:24

watching and waiting to see them take control of the remaining food resources , they already have control of the water

morguana

20th May 2010, 10:26

Our world.

I don't have a great deal of confidence in the information we've been given about exactly what is happening at the site of the leak, 5,000 feet below the surface of the sea. British Petroleum and government officials have pegged the amount of oil spillage at 5,000 barrels a day, but there are a whole lot of voices claiming the number could be several times higher. On Monday, the UK Guardian reported:

Ocean scientists in the Gulf of Mexico have found giant plumes of oil coagulating at up to 1,300 meters below the surface, raising fears that the BP oil spill may be larger than thought - and that it might create huge "dead zones."

Members of the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology have been traversing the area around the scene of the Deepwater Horizon, the rig that exploded and sank on 20 April.

Using the latest sampling techniques, they have identified plumes up to 20 miles away from the Deepwater Horizon well head that continues to spew oil into the water at a rate of at least 790,000 liters a day. The largest plume found so far was 90 meters thick, three miles wide and ten miles long.

Samantha Joye, marine science professor at the University of Georgia, who is working on the project, told the Guardian, "The plumes are abundant throughout the region. I would say they've become characteristic of this environment."

http://www.truthout.org/killing-our-world59608

Gita

20th May 2010, 10:44

Double post Morg?!:wink:

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Media Ignores Goldman Sachs' Ties to Toxic Corexit Oil Dispersant

'In a recent New York Times’ article “Less Toxic Dispersants Lose Out in BP Oil Spill Cleanup”, journalist Paula Quinlan questions why BP is using the toxic dispersant Corexit to clean up the oil when twelve other dispersants proved more effective in EPA testing.

Nowhere in the article does it mention that Goldman Sachs, the Blackstone Group and Apollo Management own Nalco, the producer of the 54 % effective, 100% toxic dispersant.'

Read more: Media Ignores Goldman Sachs' Ties to Toxic Corexit Oil Dispersant (http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2010/05/media-ignores-goldman-sachs-ties-to-corexit-dispersant.html)

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morguana

20th May 2010, 11:02

haha sorry gita, i was busy and hadnt checked the above posts, dugh, that will teach me for trying to bake and post at the same time!!!!!!........well all i can say is this great minds........

Gita

20th May 2010, 11:29

ah the good ole' multitasking! I understand - I would've put the keyboard into the oven by now!!:blink::heh: Yes and great minds do think alike - shame it was Viking's post and not mine but lets keep that between ourselves!:secret:

Gita

20th May 2010, 14:14

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Coming Hurricane Season Could Complicate Gulf Oil Spill Disaster

BP's oil spill could make for one of the highest-stakes U.S. Gulf hurricane seasons on record.

Storms may scuttle clean-up efforts, force containment vessels to retreat, or propel spilled crude and tar balls over vast expanses of sea and beach, scientists said.

Meteorologists say that climate conditions are ripe for an unusually destructive hurricane season, the storm-prone period that runs from June 1 to the end of November in the Gulf. Oceanographers say that could hurt the clean-up.

"If a storm comes into this situation it could vastly complicate everything,'' said Florida State University oceanography professor Ian MacDonald.

"All efforts on the shoreline and at sea, the booms and structures and rigs involved in clean-up and containment, could stop working.''

As thousands of spill responders gird for a clean-up that could last for months or years after the leaking well is capped, weather and ocean currents are emerging as major unknowns, raising anxiety levels, economic and environmental stakes in the Gulf as storm season nears.

Compounding the uncertainty is how little research has been done on how storms affect oil spills. Some believe storm surges may help disperse the oil off shore or break down the slick. Other research suggests the oil slick itself could keep storms from gathering strength.

Recent Atlantic Basin readings showed water temperatures up to 0.8 degrees Celsius above normal, and near a record high for the season. El Nino, which creates wind shear that can prevent Gulf hurricanes from forming, has recently subsided. The factors could spur major storms in the Gulf this year.

"It only takes one storm to wreak havoc,'' said Chris Shabbot, a meteorologist at Sempra in Connecticut. "The consensus forecast is for above average storm activity as the El Nino (event) decays and the Atlantic is as warm or warmer than 2005.''

Colorado State University's renowned team of forecasters is calling for an above-average hurricane season that may bring 15 named storms this year, eight of hurricane strength.
Accuweather's Joe Bastardi also fears a destructive season.

"I hate to say it since the oil spill is already affecting people, but I think this hurricane season is going to be big,'' he said in an interview.

The next official hurricane season outlook from the government's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is due on May 20.

continued here. (http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2010/05/18/109943.htm#ixzz0oTVk9cZi)

Samarkis

20th May 2010, 14:37

Thank you Gita for the post........however, there are many lightworkers that have been working the weather a bit & hurricane season does not start officially until June 1st...........Also,the season usually starts getting active towards August & Sept.........so thx for the heads up...........We all will intend the weather stays calm & mild with only tropical storms & watches for highest good in protecting innocent lives & properties..........It would greatly help if everyone would join in group meditations or at the very least say some intentions as they fall asleep..............:) It is amazing what realities can be changed thru affirmations!!!

In Light!

rosie

20th May 2010, 14:41

Gita, I was thinking about hurricane season myself, found this on the web to answer some of my questions, and it does not look good.

"When you combine the power of a natural disaster with the power of a man-made disaster, you can get something that is greater than the sum of the parts.

When a hurricane passes over water, it will often pick up some of the water, even moreso in very hot weather. This adds mass to the hurricane. This is how a hurricane grows from category 3 to 4 to 5. Conversely, when the hurricane passes over land, it loses water and shrinks in size.
Oil is lighter than water, which is why it floats on water. If a hurricane can pick up water, it can certainly pick up oil. So, hurricanes can very easily spread this oil over land.

To make matters worse, it is likely that if this happens, it will atomize the oil (nothing to do with atoms; this means the oil will spread into tiny droplets). Just like in a grain elevator, the particles now have a high surface-area-to-volume ratio, creating high combustibility.

This could turn the hurricane into a giant incendiary bomb several hundred miles in diameter.
All it takes is lightning or broken power lines to set it off.

And, if the hurricane has coated cities and farms with a thin film of oil, when the airborne oil ignites, it could also ignite the film of oil on cities, farms and wildlife.

However, there are factors that could reduce the worst effects: water and wind.

High winds and extensive water mass in the hurricane could easily reduce the incendiary effects, but there are so many other factors that it's hard to tell, even with a good computer model, how extensive any incendiary effects might be.

Wind and water will likely break up any large combustion wave travelling through the body of the hurricane. So, more likely than one giant incendiary bomb, the hurricane will be a carrier for smaller (i.e. city-sized) incendiary bombs."

Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclogenesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir–Simpson_Hurricane_Scale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_scales
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=20769
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_elevator#Elevator_explosions

stardustaquarion

20th May 2010, 14:52

Hi Rosie

You are making very good points, the webbots have a prediction for "ill winds" and "diaspora". Lets hope not but it seems rather inevitable, the USG is bound to have some hurricanes like every year

:grouphug:

Gita

20th May 2010, 15:22

Thank you Samarkis for your wise words as always. I’m glad you mentioned setting intentions at bed time for this is what I always do and it would be helpful if others did the same as it’s not very time consuming.:)

Rosie, thank you for your post.:thumb: Very interesting and informative. It’s also somewhat worrying with all the different probabilities before us. Lets hope we are graced with the ‘best’ scenario.

Here’s something else we can do which Stardust brought to our attention in earlier posts.

http://www.pephost.org/images/content/pagebuilder/63335.jpg

https://secure2.convio.net/pep/site/SPageServer?pagename=SeizeBPPetition&AddInterest=4221&JServSessionIdr004=fd1lzm2p63.app202a

stardustaquarion

20th May 2010, 15:52

Intentions and prayer are good but we can also vote with our wallets!

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs266.snc3/23270_119101198107726_6780_n.jpg

Boycott BP stations. BP brands to boycott include Castrol, Arco, Aral, am/pm, Amoco, and Wild Bean Cafe

Here is the facebook link http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-BP/119101198107726

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stardustaquarion

20th May 2010, 17:00

Plans to evacuate the Gulf are BEGINING TO FLY AROUND THE NET.
Benzene, incredible amounts of Benzene are being released into the atmosphere and is a clear and present danger not only for the old and people with respiratory problems but the general Gulf population as a whole.
The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that benzene is a human carcinogen, and can cause various forms of cancer from prolonged exposure.Exposed to high levels of benzene show association with leukemia cancer; including acute myelogenous leukemia, acute lymphocytic leukemia, and chronic myelogenous leukemia. Benzene-related leukemias have been reported to develop in as short as nine months,(read more below)
This is much more serious than they are letting on, especially as one of the options here is to burn the escaping oil!

Florida Gulf oil spill: Plans to evacuate Tampa Bay area expected to be announced

Gulf Oil Spill 2010: Plans to evacuate Tampa Bay area expected to be announced

Plans to evacuate the Tampa Bay area are expected to be announced in the coming days as FEMA prepares for what is now being called the worst oil disaster in the history of the world.

Evacuate Florida!! Good God in Heaven!!! What have these monsters done to us!!

Was tuning my sat dish and picked up 'The micro effect radio show' and there is a scientist on there who said they have backup plans to evacuate Florida and eventually the East coast now that the oil is in the loop currents. The slick is releasing huge amounts of Benzene. Benzene will flat out kill ya!! Don't go down there, stay away!!!!

Read more

http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/05/benzene-killer-plans-in-place-to.html

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It does sound rather alarmist but with the heat evaporation of toxic chemicals do happen? Not an expert myself

Etherios

20th May 2010, 17:16

ill just add that if they evac the ppl around the golf they will have to stop anyone from going there ... (we have seen how they pushed away reporters already)

As i am sure they dont give a .... about the ppl maybe they want to keep us away from the golf area? Remember that is where they found sunken pyramids and maybe Atlantis ... just maybe this is planed to get items out of there in mass. They have already done something similar in Giza right?

Anyway we all see this is set up and its guided... They didnt avoid the accident and they sure dont do enough to stop the oil spilling out more...

Gita

20th May 2010, 19:43

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Professor of Mechanical Engineering Estimates that 4 Million Gallons of Oil are Leaking Every Day

As I wrote on May 2nd:
The Gulf oil spill is much worse than originally believed.

As the Christian Science Monitor writes:

It's now likely that the actual amount of the oil spill dwarfs the Coast Guard's figure of 5,000 barrels, or 210,000 gallons, a day.

Independent scientists estimate that the renegade wellhead at the bottom of the Gulf could be spewing up to 25,000 barrels a day. If chokeholds on the riser pipe break down further, up to 50,000 barrels a day could be released, according to a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration memo obtained by the Mobile, Ala., Press-Register.

CNN quotes the lead government official responding to the spill - the commandant of the Coast Guard, Admiral Thad Allen - as stating:

If we lost a total well head, it could be 100,000 barrels or more a day.

Indeed, an environmental document filed by the company running the oil drilling rig - BP - estimates the maximum as 162,000 barrels a day:

In an exploration plan and environmental impact analysis filed with the federal government in February 2009, BP said it had the capability to handle a “worst-case scenario” at the Deepwater Horizon site, which the document described as a leak of 162,000 barrels per day from an uncontrolled blowout — 6.8 million gallons each day.

Today, a Purdue University mechanical engineering professor - Steven Wereley - testified to the House Committee on Commerce and Energy that 95,000 barrels a day are currently leaking into the Gulf. That's 3,990,000 gallons - just shy of 4 million gallons - per day.

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http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/05/professor-of-mechanical-engineering.html

Gita

20th May 2010, 19:52

Seriously??!!:rolleyes:

Fox News: Ocean Can Handle Oil Spill

PFmBedwbVWU

Etherios

20th May 2010, 19:54

Gita did they give any estimates to when it will stop/get fixed? or they just waiting for it to dry out?

Gita

20th May 2010, 19:59

Gita did they give any estimates to when it will stop/get fixed? or they just waiting for it to dry out?

I recall they said they were going to implement a three months plan! I personally don’t buy it as they just can’t possibly allow the oil to gush the way it is for another 3 months! Or can they?!!:blink:

They really don’t seem to have any idea what they are doing!!

Etherios

20th May 2010, 20:02

well they dont see it so maybe they cant find it to stop it .... just ridiculous. Earth pumps out more every year so its ok for BP to do the same? Is he on drugs or something?

And US ppl hear and believe that guy?

Gita

20th May 2010, 20:05

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BP and the EPA Working in Symphony to Cover Up the Oil Spill?

From the very beginning, BP has been less than forthright about the damages and potential damages from the oil spewing out of the hole in the earth’s crust some 5000 feet below sea level and 50 miles off the coast of Louisiana.

From the very beginning, they have been arbitrarily underestimating the quantity of oil leaking from the exploded rig.

From the very beginning, they have been plotting to sweep the majority of the mess under the saltwater carpet. But how do you do that? With very careful, very clever planning, and a little help from some friends at the Environmental Protection Agency.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/44000/44006/gulf_tmo_2010137_lrg.jpg

Early on, BP began spraying and injecting solvents into offshore waters. They claimed that dispersing the oil would be a good idea, better for the wetlands. Even then, their plot was in place. They knew that the truth was that the solvents would make the oil exponentially more toxic, (as would adding the solvent itself) but that didn’t matter. Dispersal solvents would see to it that a large portion of that oil never floated to the top or showed up at the shoreline. Why would they do that? Simple enough: If it doesn’t rise to the surface or wash up onto the shores, BP doesn’t have to pay to clean it up.

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Continued here. (http://www.protecttheocean.com/bp-epa-oil-spill/#more-422)

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oops. Didn't realise the pic was going to be that big!!:)

Gita

20th May 2010, 20:12

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Gulf Oil Spill: Huge 10-mile Long Oil Plumes Found Under Gulf’s Surface!
Another BP Cover-up

Saturday, Jeffrey Collins (AP) reported that researchers from the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology has detected massive 10 mile long underwater plumes of oil at depths between just below the surface and more than 4,000 feet deep. The existence of such plumes serves to verify and validate our concerns that BP’s disaster management methods were aimed at keeping the leaked oil under the surface. Once the oil was out of sight, BP hoped they would not be held accountable for the cost of cleaning up those millions of gallons of toxic oil which never made it to shore.

The incriminating AP story was short-lived on several sources. Just a few short hours later, those very same links had been changed to BP’s reporting some success with their latest attempt to capture oil spilling from the damaged line. Though we don’t want to seem like conspiracy theorists, we’ve lost count of how many times and ways BP has attempted to change their story, hide the truth, and dupe the public. (Check earlier posts here for some of their more infamous fiascos.)

Since they’re trying to bury the story of these sub-surface streams, we’ll bring the news to you:

Scientists have identified oil from a blown-out well which is now forming huge underwater plumes, some 10 miles long, beneath the surface of the Gulf of Mexico. The oil has been spilling since April 20th; May 16th is the 26th day for the open well to be spewing oil. Government officials estimate at least 210,000 gallons per day have been pouring into the Gulf — some 5.5 million gallons. Unfortunately, some private sector scientists estimate the rate to be much higher — as much as 10 times that volume.

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Continued here. (http://www.protecttheocean.com/gulf-oil-spill-huge-10-mile-long-oil-plumes-found-under-gulfs-surface/#more-386)

Gita

20th May 2010, 20:16

Giant Oil 'Plumes' Detected in Gulf of Mexico

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Gita

20th May 2010, 20:27

GULF DISASTER: END OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING NOW

Q&A

HOW BIG IS THE SPILL?
HOW FAST IS IT SPREADING?
WHAT SPECIES ARE THREATENED?
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?
WHAT IF A SPILL OCCURS IN THE ARCTIC?
ARE OIL SPILLS INEVITABLE?
HOW OFTEN DO OIL SPILLS OCCUR?
WHAT CAN I DO?
(http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/energy/dirty_energy_development/oil_and_gas/gulf_oil_spill/index.html)

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/energy/dirty_energy_development/oil_and_gas/gulf_oil_spill/images/SatelliteImagery.jpg

Gita

20th May 2010, 20:35

Looks like FEMA camps are going to be filled up soon!:eek:

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The Cover-up: BP's Crude Politics and the Looming Environmental Mega-Disaster

Written by Wayne Madsen
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Emergency preparations in dealing with the expanding oil menace are now being made for cities and towns from Corpus Christi, Texas, to Houston, New Orleans, Gulfport, Mobile, Pensacola, Tampa-St.Petersburg-Clearwater, Sarasota-Bradenton, Naples, and Key West. Some 36 FEMA-funded contracts between cities, towns, and counties and emergency workers are due to be invoked within days, if not hours, according to WMR's FEMA sources.

There are plans to evacuate people with respiratory problems, especially those among the retired senior population along the west coast of Florida, before officials begin burning surface oil as it begins to near the coastline.

There is another major threat looming for inland towns and cities. With hurricane season in effect, there is a potential for ocean oil to be picked up by hurricane-driven rains and dropped into fresh water lakes and rivers, far from the ocean, thus adding to the pollution of water supplies and eco-systems.

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Full article. (http://oilprice.com/Environment/Oil-Spills/The-Cover-up-BP-s-Crude-Politics-and-the-Looming-Environmental-Mega-Disaster.html)

Can anyone on the forum who lives in these areas verify this story?

Etherios

20th May 2010, 20:44

OMG has everything started ... already? Fema camps starting to activate already omg... i feel sorry for the US ppl.

Gita

20th May 2010, 20:47

The animated trajectory forecasts of the oil spill can be seen here and it’s updated daily.

http://ocg6.marine.usf.edu/~liu/Drifters/latest_roms.htm

Richard

21st May 2010, 01:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did-S6XbpMM
Video is from Alabama resident John Wathen as a volunteer pilot flew him over the area where the oil rig sank. Officials have stopped guessing at the amount of oil leaking although some speculate it may be closer to 1 million gallons per day.

Don't let BP spin this into something trivial.

"It's not a leak, it's a volcano spewing oil"

denis m

21st May 2010, 01:29

[QUOTE=Richard;20407]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did-S6XbpMM
Video is from Alabama resident John Wathen as a volunteer pilot flew him over the area where the oil rig sank. Officials have stopped guessing at the amount of oil leaking although some speculate it may be closer to 1 million gallons per day.

some people think 1 million is a conservative estimate,3 to 4 million gallons could be much nearer the mark.

bluestflame

21st May 2010, 02:24

then they'll take out the internet , maybe blame it on a solar flare

Etherios

21st May 2010, 06:55

i really like when the guy in the video says "WE HAVE to have oil we have to have gas" ... sad

Even now they are talking about the money lost ... sad

Gita

21st May 2010, 09:05

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Fears realised as oil spill hits Louisiana marshes

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/05/21/1225869/707575-gulf-oil-spill.jpg

CRUDE oozed into US wetlands today, prompting furious Louisiana officials to accuse BP of destroying fragile marshes beyond repair and leaving coastal fishing communities in ruin.
With some of the worst fears of environmental disaster being realised in the marshlands of the Mississippi Delta, BP was also forced to concede it had underestimated the amount of oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico.

The British energy giant had always maintained only 5000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons -- of crude was gushing each day from a pipe ruptured when its Deepwater Horizon rig exploded one month ago and sank.

But BP spokesman Mark Proegler said that this amount was already being siphoned away from the leak by its mile-long insertion tube device and live television pictures showed a significant quantity still streaming out.

"Now that we are collecting 5000 barrels a day, it might be a little more than that," he said.

Independent experts have warned the flow could be at least 10 times higher.

With thick patches of oil now flooding over coastal Louisiana marshes, a haven for migratory birds and rare wildlife that will be nigh-on impossible to clear up, local leaders were starting to despair.
"Twenty-four miles (38km) of Plaquemines Parish is destroyed. Everything in it is dead," Billy Nungesser, head of the parish in southern Louisiana, told US cable news station MSNBC. "There is no life in that marsh. You won't clean it up."

"We've been begging BP to step up to the plate," said Nungesser. The slick is "destroying our marsh,h," and will keep on coming ashore for weeks and months, he said.

An increasingly desperate BP says a "top kill" operation to try to cap the leak for good by filling the well with heavy drilling fluids and then seal it with cement could begin as early as Sunday.

But for Louisiana's fragile wetlands the measure may come too late.

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Continued here. (http://www.news.com.au/world/fears-realised-as-oil-spill-hits-louisiana-marshes/story-e6frfkyi-1225869709015)

Gita

21st May 2010, 09:13

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How Bush's DOJ Killed a Criminal Probe Into BP That Threatened to Net Top Officials

'West was the special agent-in-charge at the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Criminal Investigation Division who had been probing alleged crimes committed by BP and the company's senior officials in connection with a March 2006 pipeline rupture at the company's Prudhoe Bay operations in Alaska's North Slope that spilled 267,000 gallons of crude oil across two acres of frozen tundra - the second largest spill in Alaska's history - which went undetected for nearly a week.

West was confident that the thousands of hours he invested into the criminal investigation would result in felony charges against BP and the company's senior executives who received advanced warnings from dozens of employees who worked at its Prudhoe Bay facility that unless immediate steps were taken to repair the severely corroded pipeline, a disaster on par with that of the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill was only a matter of time.'

Read more: How Bush's DOJ Killed a Criminal Probe Into BP That Threatened to Net Top Officials (http://www.truthout.org/how-bushs-doj-killed-a-criminal-probe-into-bp-that-threatened-net-top-officials59648)

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Source (http://davidicke.com/headlines)

stardustaquarion

21st May 2010, 09:31

stardustaquarion

21st May 2010, 09:36

bluestflame

21st May 2010, 11:31

lets see what's really being used under the guise of oil dispersant chemical analysis of what's in the water down flow

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they use our legal system against us , the term "won't hold up in court" was probably invented by them "reasonable doubt" a "get out of jail for free card" to them

stardustaquarion

21st May 2010, 15:39

Gita

21st May 2010, 19:33

Live stream of the oil gush! Can anyone figure out what those white disks swimming about are ??:blink:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=2

Gita

21st May 2010, 19:41

OIL RIG DISASTER - HALIBURTON SABOTAGED THE RIG !

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Gita

21st May 2010, 19:45

Witness PROVES Gulf Oil Rig Explosion Survivors ARE Being Silenced By Big Oil

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Ruis

21st May 2010, 19:56

The Australian government has now annouced it plans to explore 31 new arears of the coast for oil.

Conservation groups and local residents are outraged by Resources Minister Martin Ferguson's announcement of 31 new exploration leases along Australia's coast.

Mr Ferguson, who was at the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Associations (APPEA) annual conference in Brisbane on Monday, said the leases included five prospective oil and gas basins varying in size.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/govt-opens-new-oil-leases-along-coast-20100517-v94c.html

Gita

21st May 2010, 19:56

:thumb:

Oil Spill in the Gulf...I Speak Today of the Human Shadow.wmv

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shiva777

21st May 2010, 20:17

Gulf Oil spill - looks more like a Vulcano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiM-XjlcIc

Etherios

21st May 2010, 21:38

Have you guys read/hear in these videos about FEMA? they are getting rdy to evacuate all the ppl in the golf area because it is estimated that the smell will make you sick very fast and might even kill the ppl with breathing problems.

So fema was calculating and getting rdy for pop movements... anyone found this also i cant remember where i heared this....

SpoonMan

21st May 2010, 22:45

Live stream of the oil gush! Can anyone figure out what those white disks swimming about are ??:blink:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=2

Wow, that 5,000 barrels a day BP claims to be siphoning off doesn't seem to be slowing the flow much. Looks like its still pumping out at a high rate.

Also if so much coastline has been destroyed this quickly after the EDGE of the slick is just barely reaching land, just imagine the destruction the other 99.99% that has not met landfall. I can't imagine what the coasts will look like in a month after the bulk of the oil has spread out..

Tuza

21st May 2010, 23:09

With all the darn technology they have at their disposal, knowing how disastrous this spill is for all life, what are they darn well doing, almost bloody nothing imho. This whole scenario is one big nasty evil conspiracy, there are too many things that do not add up and as per usual they are stuffing everything up, looks like on purpose. I don't want to go on as my language could become very blue, I hope they all turn blue.

lindabaker

21st May 2010, 23:13

I don't know this news source: haven't seen it before. It's what I saw first in line when I googled Gulf evacuations. Here it is: Tampa Florida is really really far away from the oil rig disaster for those of you in other continents. If the population has to leave Tampa, it's major major major.

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/47/159/Florida_Gulf_Oil_Spill:_Plans_to_Evacuate_Tampa_Bay_Area_Expected_to_Be_Announced.html

Etherios

21st May 2010, 23:37

They plan to put the oil on fire!!!! wtf ... not only destroy the sea kill the air also ... idiots and monsters...

They say the elderly with breathing problems will have issues with oil fire ... lolololol what about the rest of the ppl? can anyone breath burned oil fumes for days ... not to say the unburnt fumes that have already started hitting the coast areas... Tampa is deep, imagine the population that is at the coast...

lilac

22nd May 2010, 04:53

BP Fails Booming School 101: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_enCDXmVj0&feature=player_embedded

Lost Soul

22nd May 2010, 05:09

Mankind has again proven itself poor stewards of this planet. Oh the humanity.

Jeanette

22nd May 2010, 07:29

Lilac/BP Fails Booming School 101: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_enC...layer_embedded

Great video except for the constant repetition of the F!??!! word...the points can be made without that nonsense!

Moving on...Just read in this morning's newspaper that the crude oil leaked has now contaminated 65 kilomentres of the Bayou in Louisiana...such a travesty! I have fired off a Letter to our Liberal MP Ignatieff on this issue as well as what our region (British Columbia) is facing with a company out of Alberta called Enbridge who wishes to construct an oil pipeline (Northern Gateway Project) from the tar sands in Alberta through the mountains of BC and onto the coast at Kitimat where the crude will be loaded onto tankers which would be travelling 1200 kms. of our pristine coastline...arrghh! More letters are to come as we cannot allow ourselves to sleep on this issue.
The Loop Current in the Gulf of Mexico is now spinning the crude around the coast of Florida...once into the Gulf Stream it will contaminate the marine oceanic wildlife superhighway on the East Coast of the United States and Canada..
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Time is Eternity looking back at Itself in motion.............................Jen's Muse

Jeanette

22nd May 2010, 07:38

Check out these links for a positive solution...

http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20100521/b182270/

http://www.wwltv.com/news/Kevin-Costners-solution-to-the-BP-oil-crisis.html

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Time is Eternity looking back at Itself in motion................................Jen's Muse

bashi

22nd May 2010, 08:19

Here some simulated trajectories:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1277/surftraj1.png (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/surftraj1.png/)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8639/surftraj11.png (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/surftraj11.png/)

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2533/surftraj19.png (http://img210.imageshack.us/i/surftraj19.png/)

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1124/surftraj27.png (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/surftraj27.png/)

Gita

22nd May 2010, 09:08

A damselfly tries to clean its delicate wings on a blade of oil-covered marsh grass in Garden Island Bay on the Gulf Coast of Louisiana, Tuesday, May 18, 2010. :(

http://i50.tinypic.com/2v96s0x.jpg

Gita

22nd May 2010, 09:13

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Concensus is growing for a particularly active 2010 hurricane season; GOM is rapidly warming

The 2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season is only two weeks away, and consensus is growing as forecasters have predicted a 'particularly active' hurricane season. Long range forecast expert, Joe Bastardi of Accuweather.com, described the chances for this year to be an "extreme season".

He predicts 16 to 18 tropical storms to develop during the hurricane season (June 1 to November 30). 5 of those tropical storms will become hurricanes with 2 or 3 reaching major hurricane status (Category 3 and above).

Meanwhile Colorado State University 's researchers Dr. Philip Klotzbach and Dr. William Gray have shown even more confidence in activity this upcoming hurricane season and have stated that:
The 2010 Atlantic hurricane season will have significantly more activity than the average 1950-2000 season.

Their forecast is that 8 named storms will become hurricanes, 4 of which could be Category 3 or above, major hurricanes.

Reasons for the predicted above average season is largely due to a weakening El Nino and the rapid warming of the Gulf of Mexico. These were some of the same characteristics from the 1998 and 2005 hurricane seasons.

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Continued here. (http://www.examiner.com/x-30794-Chicago-Weather-Examiner~y2010m5d21-Models-suggest-tropical-development-in-the-Atlantic-early-next-week-could-have-effect-on-oil-spill)

Etherios

22nd May 2010, 09:14

Some are talking about this being a volcano ... does this really change the situation ? i mean there is a huge oil spill and they are not doing anything to stop it from spreading. So volcano or not its the same for the earth... mass murder of nature.

Why is there no protest or public demand for a fix. At least for protection of the coasts ... all i see is "specialists" trying to explain all is well and we shouldnt bother with it...

Gita

22nd May 2010, 09:17

Live stream of the oil gush! Can anyone figure out what those white disks swimming about are ??:blink:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=2

CNN have cut the live stream!!:mmph:

Gita

22nd May 2010, 09:24

Visible satellite loop of the disturbance (area of showers and storms) over the eastern Bahamas.

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/at201090_sat_anim.gif

Gita

22nd May 2010, 09:28

Thanks Viking. :thumb:

FUBAR: Gulf Workers SICK AS DOGS, Could Millions Die? Gulf Spill & Cleanup [A Third Of The Waters]

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stardustaquarion

22nd May 2010, 09:38

stardustaquarion

22nd May 2010, 10:24

Etherios

22nd May 2010, 10:26

Damn i guess the FEMA plans for mass population moves might be on the move already ... damn...

Has anyone figure how many ppl are living near the oil spill? And now they say hurricanes will be many and strong ... how far inside the US mainland will the oil fumes get? Will they categorize this as a major incident and maybe enforce martial law?

Is it me of the PTB are on the move and things are really speeding up?

Gita

22nd May 2010, 10:39

Etherios, no one seems to know for sure what is happeing at the moment. Just got to play the waiting game for now.

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NUCLEAR PHYSICISTS SENT TO STOP GULF OIL FLOW

...

Now the London Telegraph reports that Bother O has sent a five-man team of nuclear physicists to stop the flow of oil that Brother O and Coast Guard commandant, Thad Allen, say “has the potential to be catastrophic” and devastate the Gulf Coast, its economy and its people.

The Telegraph report makes the stories of a White House ordered media blackout and cover-up appear more plausible.
...

Full article. (http://imkane.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/nuclear-physicists-team-sent-to-stop-gulf-oil-flow/)

stardustaquarion

22nd May 2010, 16:15

Gita

22nd May 2010, 18:46

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BP information black out spreads like oil spill

BETWEEN GRAND ISLE AND COCODRIE, Louisiana – A community centre on Louisiana’s highway one, running deep into the bayous – the land most threatened by the creeping BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico – plays host to a group giving out small business loans and a “BP Information Centre.” Charles Digges, 19/05-2010
After a night spent inhaling crude and chemical smelling toxic fumes blowing off the Gulf, Bellona Web has counted a dozen tar balls –black and oily and as big as Frisbees some 30 to 40 centimetres across – that have washed up on the beach down the road. By morning, the smell of oil hanging in the air above the sun-baked bayous has also been augmented by the putrefaction of decomposing sea life.

At the community centre, representatives of American’s Small Business Administration explain the terms of 30 year loans to motel owners, restaurateurs, and fishermen who will take the financial brunt of the Deepwater Horizion blowout, while a BP representative sits behind her table with a taciturn look, staring out at the beautiful day beyond the fluorescent lights and air conditioning of the lobby.

But she stirs truculently when approached by a reporter asking exactly what sort of information she has been giving out. “I can’t tell you,” she says. But the reporter has heard from BP higher ups that they have everything under control. Can’t she just confirm that?

“I can’t confirm anything. I have no comment,” she says, her voice rising. She stands and walks away from her table. Moments later she reappears with a police officer who asks Bellona Web to leave the building. The officer says to talk to area BP PR chief Guy Rozas, who can be found at town hall.

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Continued here. (http://www.bellona.org/articles/articles_2010/bp_info_blackout)

Gita

22nd May 2010, 21:04

Cheney & Halliburton implicated in Gulf oil spill

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Gita

22nd May 2010, 21:18

CNN - Did Obama Want The Oil Spill? Ex-Fema Director Thinks So

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Etherios

22nd May 2010, 22:06

CNN - Did Obama Want The Oil Spill? Ex-Fema Director Thinks So

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Gita if they are planning to push oil away and introduce as that ex-Fema guy said "Something else" ... i know they are monsters and wont care less about the damage but global environmental destruction just to move away from oil ... at their time ... at their way .. at their terms...

Damn it might even be a possibility. Economy dies , environment dies, free energy is invented by them ... we are saved ... bow to our master ... damn ...

stardustaquarion

23rd May 2010, 09:39

This is a wild card but I kind of think that they have created all this mess to be able to detonate a nuke and create an interdimensional portal look at this

""The Working began... just prior to the wave of unexplained ariel phenomena now recalled as the 'Great Flying Saucer Flap!' Parsons opened a door and something flew in." Such researchers as John Carter suggest that the detonation of atomic bombs over Japan — during the latter part of World War II — [B]may have also played a part in opening this door between dimensions or, at least, attracted the curiosity of our intergalactic neighbors. "

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/UFO_Ritual_Magic.htm

If that is the case, this is a plan and not stupidity and all what they want is people beggin for the nuke.....

Maybe we should focus on asking the Earth to close the hole by herself, the planet is perfectly capable of doing that! Rather than asking for a human solution to the problem lets ask earth to close it

Gita

23rd May 2010, 11:16

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Senator Wants Corporate Welfare for BP

'US Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee member Lisa Murkowski has urged Congress not to overreact legislatively to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. On May 13, Murkowski and other Republicans blocked Senate Democratic attempts to pass the "Big Oil Bailout Prevention Liability Act" which would cap BP's liability at $10 billion, even if damages from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill surpass that figure. The company already estimates that the spill will cost $450 million to clean up.

It has been reported that Murkowski, a drilling supporter, has received at least $300,000 in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry.'

Read more: Senator Wants Corporate Welfare for BP (http://www.presstv.ir/)

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lindabaker

23rd May 2010, 13:15

"Maybe we should focus on asking the Earth to close the hole by herself, the planet is perfectly capable of doing that! Rather than asking for a human solution to the problem lets ask earth to close it" was written by Stardust.

How about a perfectly sized asteroid to plop right into the hole? Is is possible and safe? Planetary miracle called for here. No nukes, no no no

stardustaquarion

23rd May 2010, 17:57

Folks in the USA, this is the solution, call your representatives and demand action!

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stardustaquarion

23rd May 2010, 18:07

Gita

23rd May 2010, 18:29

:eek:Unbelievable!! I have not posted any pics of animals and sea life cos they are pretty heartbreaking but please consider their plight and send them heart as much as possible.

http://i45.tinypic.com/zkfwwi.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/19/article-1279710-09A5C983000005DC-313_468x286.jpg

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/hawkeyeflame/oilslick.jpg

tron

23rd May 2010, 18:40

i read last night that sea turtles were taking the worst of it.
then i recalled this...
http://api.ning.com/files/fX7sa5N1CYmBZ9JIPMy47qUURfLDxh-elc8sfLM7Md5sbWoRHoT7O3-FUCcOvXJAqdPcUS8PeGBVINl7FNHUanRKhNL8ZaYf/airport_mural_burning_s.gif

Etherios

23rd May 2010, 18:43

Anyone know what the reply of the US gov was about the kevin idea? did they even thought about it or just ignored him?

Lucid Jia

24th May 2010, 01:38

Here is a link to the ROV Camera. Looks bad down there! http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

onawah

24th May 2010, 04:04

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/836-oilspillpyramidtimeline
This should probably get its own thread, but I'm posting it here because it's very relevant to where the discussion on this thread has gone. David Wilcock's newest entry, posted today on Divine Cosmos is entitled: "Was Oil Spill and Possible Disclosure in the Pyramid Timeline? "

Here is a quote "
As the oil disaster has mushroomed in scope, I found something I had forgotten about: namely the year 2010 is directly flagged in the Pyramid Timeline as the year where "the bottom will fall out of the world."

If you look at a diagram of the internal passages of the Pyramid, and look at the Subterranean Chamber, there is an area that dips lower than the others that is called the 'Pit.'

The lowest depth of the Pit begins in the year 2010. This was openly predicted in Lemesurier's 1977 book as the year where the materialistic world would reach the full extent of its visible collapse -- to help usher in a mass awakening.

The events that are now happening show us that we are indeed living through those prophecies."

I agree with Wilcock that Obama is not a villain, and I also think that the ETS who would probably love to help us are refraining because it's finally time the proverbial s--t hits the fan and there is enough public outcry from the public (and even the media is beginning to step in--have you noticed?) so that there will finally be some serious transitioning from oil to more sustainable technology.
I've barely started reading the article myself, but I'm going to stick my neck out here and say i have a good feeling about where it's going. Though like many psychics, Wilcock isn't all-seeing, I think he is basically on the right track...and like him, I'm optimistic.
Enjoy!

onawah

24th May 2010, 04:33

In a similar vein, I'm adding here part of the current Message From Matthew dated May 19, 2010
at:
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=120&z=2

"Gulf of Mexico oil spill; grassroots efforts for "green world"; truth disclosures speeding up; Earth's energy field of potential; Illuminati, clones; astrological influences; history, new direction of religions

1. This is Matthew, with loving greetings from all souls at this station. Let us speak about something that affects the United States but is of great concern to peoples throughout your world, the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. We know of the various speculations as to what caused this grave environmental situation: the work of corporate saboteurs; another Illuminati “black ops” tactic to further delay official recognition of space beings’ presence; some dark civilization is the culprit; and some are wondering if God had a hand in it, like a strong wake-up call, while others have defined it as a wrathful God punishing sinners.

2. Simply, the ultimate cause was a mechanical malfunction, but most assuredly this was no “accident.” During the past decades of increasing numbers of seismic events, extracting oil from a mile beneath the waters was deliberately courting disaster—it was not a matter of “if,” but when strong planetary movement would disrupt mechanical operations at that depth.

3. The root of this environmental destructiveness is the intention of a few minds steeped in greed to keep your world dependent upon petroleum, and to that end, they have suppressed the developments in free energy that would have eliminated their source of mammoth fortunes. The relentless pursuit of monetary wealth has withered their conscience, thus there is no consideration given to the potential effects of desecrating the environment; and they don’t understand that Earth is a highly evolved soul, a sentient being whose blood is the fluids within her planetary body.

4. We cannot say exactly when attempts to end the spewing of the oil will be successful, but this manmade disaster requires a manmade solution. We know of your visualizing marine life safe in pristine waters and your prayers that the oil will not reach coastlines. By all means continue—never underestimate your power to change any situation!

5. Some of you are pleading for our space family to come down and save the day, while others are disappointed, even distressed, that they aren’t already there. They have not landed en masse only because it is not yet safe for you if they do so, but they are indeed helping! They are keeping the currents gentle and the oil away from the shore to the extent possible without creating unwanted side effects, and they have a watchful eye on the ones who might be persuaded to produce storms or seismic disturbances in the Gulf. They are doing what they can to lessen the toxic effects of the surface oil and the pools floating beneath; however, only after their technologies are in use on the planet can total eradication of the oil polluting the Gulf waters be achieved.

6. If every cloud has a silver lining, as your expression goes, then you could say that this cloud is surrounded by a brilliance that is billowing ever outward through your skies. The oil spill has given rise to demands for changes to insure that never again will such a disaster imperil your natural world. “Big Oil” will not be able to stem the growing tide of people curtailing gasoline consumption and looking for substitutes for petroleum-based products.

7. This is adding impetus to efforts to create a “green world” through renewable energy sources; clean manufacturing; ending pollution from all sources; expanding recycling and stopping wastefulness; preserving rain forests, which are essential not only for animal habitats, but your very breath. You see these recent or extended developments as promising, and rightly so. We wish you also could see how lighted beings throughout the universe are cheering on the “grassroots movement” as it surges in many directions.

8. Along with growing emphasis in those crucial areas is the ever louder outcry to end corporate control of governments; negotiate resolutions instead of wage war; eliminate massive impoverishment; end the reign of chemicals; and dig deeper into the pockets of corruption and deception, where only the tips of those icebergs are apparent.

9. Originally the Golden Age master plan created by the highest council called for a gradual emergence of the many truths during the process of world transformation and spiritual renewal. However, the tenacity of the dark ones has created a time crunch of sorts, as many profound revelations still must come forth so that once again the peoples will know they are powerful gods and goddesses, inseparable parts of the universal family of souls.

10. Even with considerable time to assimilate that ultimate truth, it would be difficult for many, and perhaps impossible for some, to believe it. Yet, that reality and many others of shocking nature have to be disclosed within a brief period so that myriad changes of a magnitude you can hardly imagine can be accomplished, and all of those changes are gathering momentum. The 2012 timetable for Earth to exit third density’s darkness is much less than the two and a half years your calendars indicate. Time as you perceive it will continue to pass faster and faster the closer you approach the continuum wherein linear time’s past, present and future are happening simultaneously in different energy planes.

11. Our beloved Earth is right on target on her ascension pathway, that we can assure you, but we don’t know who will choose to see the light of universal truths and who will not. The light brings spiritual clarity and changes cellular structure from carbon-based to the crystalline form that enables bodies to survive in the vibratory levels of the Golden Age. Those who choose the light will physically accompany Earth and those who do not will go to other worlds where they will have as many opportunities as they need “to see the light.”

Gita

24th May 2010, 08:28

Oil Spill Disaster 2010 (part251) - Slick from US oil spill reaches coastland

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Gita

24th May 2010, 08:34

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Cleaning oil-soaked wetlands may be impossible

The gooey oil washing into the maze of marshes along the Gulf Coast could prove impossible to remove, leaving a toxic stew lethal to fish and wildlife, government officials and independent scientists said.

By MATTHEW BROWN
Associated Press Writer
NEW ORLEANS —

The gooey oil washing into the maze of marshes along the Gulf Coast could prove impossible to remove, leaving a toxic stew lethal to fish and wildlife, government officials and independent scientists said.

Officials are considering some drastic and risky solutions: They could set the wetlands on fire or flood areas in hopes of floating out the oil.

They warn an aggressive cleanup could ruin the marshes and do more harm than good. The only viable option for many impacted areas is to do nothing and let nature break down the spill.

More than 50 miles of Louisiana's delicate shoreline already have been soiled by the massive slick unleashed after the Deepwater Horizon rig burned and sank last month. Officials fear oil eventually could invade wetlands and beaches from Texas to Florida. Louisiana is expected to be hit hardest.

On Saturday, a major pelican rookery was awash in oil off Louisiana's coast. Hundreds of birds nest on the island, and an Associated Press photographer saw some birds and their eggs stained with the ooze. Nests were perched in mangroves directly above patches of crude.

Plaquemines Parish workers put booms around the island, but puddles of oil were inside the barrier.

"Oil in the marshes is the worst-case scenario," said Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the head of the federal effort to contain and clean up the spill.

Also Saturday, BP told federal regulators it plans to continue using a contentious chemical dispersant, despite orders from the Environmental Protection Agency to look for less toxic alternatives. BP said in a letter to the EPA that Corexit 9500 "remains the best option for subsea application."

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Continued here. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2011929240_apusoilspillimpossiblecleanup.html)

Gita

24th May 2010, 08:38

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UPDATE: Congressional Bill Proposes Quadrupling Per-Barrel Oil Tax

(Updates with additional detail on when the tax increase could take effect)
By Siobhan Hughes
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- U.S. congressional negotiators on Thursday proposed quadrupling an oil tax that finances a federal oil-spill trust fund, the latest fallout for the industry following a vast oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The tax would increase to 32 cents a barrel, from 8 cents currently, under a plan worked out between House and Senate tax-writing committees. The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund is a source of funding for oil-spill cleanups.

The $1.6 billion that the fund holds is estimated to be less than what will be needed to clean up a BP Plc (BP, BP.LN) spill that followed an April 20 oil-rig explosion. Though BP has indicated that it will pay all "legitimate costs" related to the spill, the disaster is focusing attention on the issue.

The tax increase, which was included as part of a broader package to extend tax breaks including jobless benefits, would be effective through the end of 2020.

The increase would take place in the first quarter that begins 60 days after the bill is enacted, or as early as October of this year.

Source (http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201005202124dowjonesdjonline000749&title=updatecongressional-bill-proposes-quadrupling-per-barrel-oil-tax#ixzz0opgud1wW)

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Gita

24th May 2010, 08:43

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UPDATE: US Salazar:'Deadline After Deadline Has Been Missed' By BP

(Updates with more details, quotes)
By Susan Daker
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

HOUSTON -(Dow Jones)- Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Sunday that he is frustrated that BP PLC (BP) has missed "deadline after deadline," while trying to stop a massive oil spill in the U.S. Gulf Of Mexico, and that he does not " completely" trust the oil giant's ability to bring the incident to a close.

"I am angry," Salazar said at a news conference outside of BP's Houston offices. "I have no question that BP is throwing everything at the problem to try and resolve it because this is an existential crisis for one of the world's largest companies," Salazar said. "Do I have confidence that they know exactly what they are doing? No, not completely," Salazar said.

The official added that the U.S. government is ready to "push (BP) out of the way" if it finds they are not doing "what they are supposed to be doing."
"BP has from day one frankly not fulfilled the mission that they were supposed to fullfill," he said.

Salazar's comments underscore how criticism of the London-based oil company has reached a fever pitch since patches of thick, brownish crude began washing up last week on beaches and marshes in Louisiana. BP has been criticized for not being able to provide an accurate estimate of how much oil is leaking from the deepwater well that began spilling more than one month ago, following the explosion and sinking of a Transocean Ltd. (RIG) drilling rig working for the company 40 miles off the Louisiana coast. The blast killed 11 people.

The Obama administration has said the company is not doing enough to keep the government and public informed about the spill. Some lawmakers have accused BP of a "cover-up" over the size of the spill. The Obama administration has said the company is not doing enough to keep the government and public informed about the spill, and some lawmakers have accused BP of a "cover-up" over the size of the spill. In a statement posted on its website, BP said that it reiterates "its pledge to be open and transparent" in its reponse to the incident. "We are committed to providing the American people with the information they need to understand the environmental impact from the spill and the response steps that have been taken," said BP's chief executive Tony Hayward in the statement.
Salazar said that as of now the "top kill" option, which involves BP using heavy drilling fluids to stop the flow of oil, is still the "option of choice." BP is scheduled to try it early this week, Salazar said. If it doesn't work, the government is preparing for the worst possible scenario, Salazar said. Prior to the afternoon media briefing, Salazar had been meeting with BP staff and other federal officials since 6 a.m. local time, he said. In an email to employees Friday, BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward acknowledged frustration with the failure of the company's efforts to stop the leak and warned staff that the success of the "top kill" procedure could not be taken for granted, as it would be tried in unprecedented depths.

Salazar said he is confident that the Environmental Protection Agency and BP will work out a dispute over the type of dispersants used to break up the oil. The EPA on Thursday ordered BP to identify and use a less toxic and more effective dispersant than Corexit, which is manufactured by Nalco Holding Co. ( NLC). The EPA said the alternative needed to be identified within 24 hours and implemented within 72 hours or Sunday. BP has defended its use of Corexit. "It's an ongoing effort," Salazar said.

The amount of oil that BP is siphoning from a massive leak on the floor of the Gulf of Mexico has declined to 1,360 barrels a day from about 2,200 barrels a day, a company spokesman said Sunday.

The change is part of a normal fluctuation, the spokesman said.

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Source (http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201005231559dowjonesdjonline000262&title=update-us-salazardeadline-after-deadline-has-been-missed-by-bp#ixzz0ophVCfDA)

Etherios

24th May 2010, 08:44

Gita

24th May 2010, 08:48

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Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America

A dire report prepared for President Medvedev by Russia’s Ministry of Natural Resources is warning today that the British Petroleum (BP) oil and gas leak in the Gulf of Mexico is about to become the worst environmental catastrophe in all of human history threatening the entire eastern half of the North American continent with “total destruction”.

Russian scientists are basing their apocalyptic destruction assessment due to BP’s use of millions of gallons of the chemical dispersal agent known as Corexit 9500 which is being pumped directly into the leak of this wellhead over a mile under the Gulf of Mexico waters and designed, this report says, to keep hidden from the American public the full, and tragic, extent of this leak that is now estimated to be over 2.9 million gallons a day.

The dispersal agent Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, Illinois that is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm). In a report written by Anita George-Ares and James R. Clark for Exxon Biomedical Sciences, Inc. titled “Acute Aquatic Toxicity of Three Corexit Products: An Overview” Corexit 9500 was found to be one of the most toxic dispersal agents ever developed. Even worse, according to this report, with higher water temperatures, like those now occurring in the Gulf of Mexico, its toxicity grows.

The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in discovering BP’s use of this dangerous dispersal agent ordered BP to stop using it, but BP refused stating that their only alternative to Corexit 9500 was an even more dangerous dispersal agent known as Sea Brat 4.

The main differences between Corexit 9500 and Sea Brat 4 lie in how long these dangerous chemicals take to degrade into their constituent organic compounds, which for Corexit 9500 is 28 days. Sea Brat 4, on the other hand, degrades into an organic chemical called Nonylphenol that is toxic to aquatic life and can persist in the environment for years.

A greater danger involving Corexit 9500, and as outlined by Russian scientists in this report, is that with its 2.61ppm toxicity level, and when combined with the heating Gulf of Mexico waters, its molecules will be able to “phase transition” from their present liquid to a gaseous state allowing them to be absorbed into clouds and allowing their release as “toxic rain” upon all of Eastern North America.
Even worse, should a Katrina like tropical hurricane form in the Gulf of Mexico while tens of millions of gallons of Corexit 9500 are sitting on, or near, its surface the resulting “toxic rain” falling upon the North American continent could “theoretically” destroy all microbial life to any depth it reaches resulting in an “unimaginable environmental catastrophe” destroying all life forms from the “bottom of the evolutionary chart to the top”.

Note: For molecules of a liquid to evaporate, they must be located near the surface, be moving in the proper direction, and have sufficient kinetic energy to overcome liquid-phase intermolecular forces. Only a small proportion of the molecules meet these criteria, so the rate of evaporation is limited. Since the kinetic energy of a molecule is proportional to its temperature, evaporation proceeds more quickly at higher temperatures.

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Continued here. (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1374.htm)

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Gita

24th May 2010, 09:10

Well we are sure that they want this to get more big and more disastrous... we just have to understand the WHY??? ....

i dont want to accept this is happening so we go to a free energy society... its just too much damage for the gain. The possibility they want to use this to enforce Martial Law in US is far more plausible. It will be the biggest natural disaster the US has ever seen for decades if ever.

Consider this – first they add poison in form of dispersant (Corexit 9500) – then they burn the oil with this added poison which will be blown over to Europe causing all kind of respiratory problems and who knows they may release the second wave of swine flu which will lead to more vaccinations. Not to mention not only the air is poisoned but also the water and food which will contain salt, mercury, sulphur! Also the price of oil and food will go way up which will conveniently open the way for hyperinflation leading to people not being able to pay for food which could lead to riots which in turn would put in place the need for martial law. Fema camps are already reported to be filling up. Fishermen and other sea based business will be losing out big time, etc...

Then also consider some of the major illuminate companies involved such as Goldman Sacs, Halliburton, BP. Also consider that Corexit is a product of Nalco who is owned by Goldman Sachs!

Corexit 9500 (http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf)

PRIMARY ROUTES OF EXPOSURE :
Eye, Skin

Section 2:
Hazardous Substance(s) CAS NO % (w/w)
Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light 64742-47-8 10.0 - 30.0
Propylene Glycol 57-55-6 1.0 - 5.0
Organic sulfonic acid salt Proprietary 10.0 - 30.0

Section 3:
**EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**
WARNING
Combustible.
Keep away from heat. Keep away from sources of ignition - No smoking. Keep container tightly closed. Do not get in eyes, on skin, on clothing. Do not take internally. Avoid breathing vapor. Use with adequate ventilation. In case
of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice. After contact with skin, wash immediately with plenty of soap and water.
Wear suitable protective clothing.
Low Fire Hazard; liquids may burn upon heating to temperatures at or above the flash point. May evolve oxides of carbon (COx) under fire conditions. May evolve oxides of sulfur (SOx) under fire conditions.

PRIMARY ROUTES OF EXPOSURE :
Eye, Skin

HUMAN HEALTH HAZARDS - ACUTE

Section 6:
ENVIRONMENTAL PRECAUTIONS :
Do not contaminate surface water.

Section 9:
APPEARANCE Clear Hazy Amber

Section 13:
If this product becomes a waste, it could meet the criteria of a hazardous waste as defined by the Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) 40 CFR 261.

Well, depopulation and tighter control pops into mind! Fits their agenda pretty well don’t you think?!:blink:

Gita

24th May 2010, 09:19

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Justice Department and Congress Should Investigate Whether BP Committed Perjury

'The Department of Justice and congressional committees should open a preliminary inquiry about whether BP committed perjury in testimony before Congress. All video of the spill should be released publicly. Subpoenas should be issued for any information from within BP about its private estimates of the size of the spill and the dangers of the dispersants. Key BP personnel should be formally interviewed by investigators.'

Read more: Justice Department and Congress Should Investigate Whether BP Committed Perjury (http://www.opednews.com/articles/Justice-Department-and-Con-by-Brent-Budowsky-100522-904.html)

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Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

stardustaquarion

24th May 2010, 09:19

Kevin Costner update

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Gita

24th May 2010, 10:02

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The Gathering Darkness and it's Inescapable Destiny.

Here’s how it has to be and how it damn well better be. B.P. needs to be seized by The World Court or some body of influence and all of its assets commandeered. Its executives must be arrested and charged with crimes against humanity. Its stockholders must be placed last in line for financial satisfaction of any claims they may have. The intentionally criminal behavior which caused this massive environmental disaster is only one of the reasons. Here is another and there are many more as well.

The government of the United States is in bed with these clowns and should also be judged accordingly. Obama was groomed and put into the White House by Zionist, Jewish money and they own him. Ergo, they are behind whatever policy he makes, including the attempt to put that psychopathic, Goldman Sachs whore, Kagan, on the Supreme Court. The beauty of her being shines in her countenance (rrrrraaaalllph!).

The means by which Zionist, Jewish money was able to engineer this and; the 9/11 attacks, the purchase and control of 96% of the world’s media and all of the major entertainment companies, as well as a great deal more, is due to their control of the money supply through the Central Banks, which issue currency and which they print at will. They then loan it out to whomever they please in order that others like them can acquire whatever they wish. They also do not loan out the money to anyone who does not serve their purposes. In this way they can have command of governments and armies and set the stage for financial crashes all around the world, as well as wars, plagues and famines.

All of this is backed up by hard data and can’t be argued against. It is critical to understand that they didn’t accomplish any of this through a possession of greater industry and intelligence. They did it by being able to print the money and by usury. These counterfeiters collect interest on ghost money printed out of thin air.

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Continued here. (http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2010/05/gathering-darkness-and-its-inescapable.html)

Etherios

24th May 2010, 12:04

Anyone here thinks that this happened 1 month or so before the weather starts hitting hard ... hurricanes / storms etc... is this a coincidence?

stardustaquarion

24th May 2010, 13:31

BP calls in Costner's $26m vacuum cleaners to mop up huge oil spill

The 'Waterworld' star has spent 15 years developing device to separate oil from sea water and it is now being put to work

By Guy Adams in Los Angeles

Saturday, 22 May 2010

Desperate times call for desperate measures. So with hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil still spewing into the Gulf of Mexico each day, and its corporate image starting to resemble the tar-covered sea creatures now washing on to Louisiana's fragile shoreline, BP has called on Kevin Costner to help stave off environmental Armageddon.

The Hollywood star has been bobbing around the Mississippi Delta helping representatives of the British oil firm and US coastguard test-drive a stainless steel device called the Ocean Therapy. In a claim which sounds as unlikely as the plot premise of Waterworld, he says it can quickly and efficiently clean oil from tainted sea water.

Bizarrely, Costner may be on to something. The actor has spent 15 years and roughly $26m (£18m) of his personal fortune developing the patented machine with the help of his elder brother Dan, a scientist. It works like a giant vacuum cleaner, sucking up dirty liquid and then using a high-speed centrifuge to separate it into oil, and heavier water.

When he allowed the local media to see Ocean Therapy in action – albeit on dry land – it appeared to work as advertised. Yesterday, six of the devices were attached to boats and floated into the Gulf, so the organisers of the clean-up operation could see whether they might also be capable of functioning on the high seas.

"This is a technology that we know works, and has worked for a long time," Costner said, adding that 26 of the machines are now in Louisiana ready to be put into action. "I'm just really happy that the light of day has come to this, and I'm very sad about why it is. But this is why it was developed, and like anything that we all face, as a group, we face it together."

Costner, 55, has quietly been developing Ocean Therapy since the mid-1990s when he founded the Costner Industries Nevada Corporation, a company which funded eco-friendly research by his brother and a team of scientists. Aside from the water cleaning device, the firm has also invented a non-chemical battery.

Each of the 26 Heath Robinson-style machines now in Louisiana waiting to be deployed can clean between 5 and 200 gallons of water a minute, depending on its size, said Costner's lawyer and business partner, John Houghtaling, which means they could in theory mop up oil at the rate it is currently gushing into the Gulf. Polluted sea water which passes through them comes out 97 per cent clean.

"Kevin saw the Exxon Valdez spill, and as a fisherman and an environmentalist, it just stuck in his craw, the fact that we didn't have separation technology," said Houghtaling. "Kevin wrote all the checks for this project. This was one man's vision. Sometimes it takes a star to come in with their money and time to make a difference."

BP was cautiously optimistic about the machines, saying they could provide a valuable tool in the armoury of clean-up workers, provided they "meet regulations with regard to discharge". The firm could certainly use some good news: a warm ocean current is now transporting the slick from the ruined Deepwater Horizon rig towards the coast of Florida. Roughly six million gallons of oil have already washed into the Gulf, and is starting to hit the fragile coastal swamps of Louisiana, which are home to an array of rare birds and mammals.

In Washington, BP is being accused of underestimating the scale of the leak in an effort to protect its reputation. The firm originally said that 1,000 barrels of oil were spilling each day, but later increased that figure to 5,000. Many scientists believe the real figure is higher still.

Amid growing political pressure, BP has agreed to allow live underwater footage of oil billowing into the ocean to be screened online. Although one relief well was drilled last week, and is said to be capturing 200,000 gallons of oil a day, the firm now admits that it could take until August to plug the leak.

Costner isn't the only Hollywood star taking an interest in the disaster. The Avatar director James Cameron has offered to make his collection of submarines available to clean-up teams, while Robert Redford is starring in a TV ad sponsored by the Natural Resources Defence Council, which uses the spill to call for the US government to promote clean energy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bp-calls-in-costners-26m-vacuum-cleaners-to-mop-up-huge-oil-spill-1979976.html

Gita

24th May 2010, 16:17

Companies blaming each other rather than finding a solution or working together to sort out this mess!:rolleyes:

'Obama's Katrina' One Month On: Still Spilling

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Gita

24th May 2010, 16:22

Anyone here thinks that this happened 1 month or so before the weather starts hitting hard ... hurricanes / storms etc... is this a coincidence?

If it’s done by design, then no it’s no accident that it coincides with hurricane season. These people plan every detail and don’t leave anything to chance. We'l have to wait and see how they use Haarp!!:blink:

Gita

24th May 2010, 16:38

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Oil spill brings ‘death in the ocean from top to bottom’

It has been an hour since our sport-fishing boat started streaking through the freshly oil-soaked marshes of Pass a Loutre, but we’re still only halfway through the slick. Eighteen miles out and the stink of oil is everywhere. Rashes of red-brown sludge are smeared across vast swaths, between them a swell rendered faintly psychedelic with rainbow-coloured swirls.

Cutting the engines, we slide to a stop near Rig 313. We’re not supposed to be in the restricted zone, but other than the dispersant-spraying aircraft passing overhead there’s no one to see us. Despite the thick oil, we’ve seen only two clean-up boats out of the 1,150 that the response claims to have on site: one was broken down, the other was towing it.

Skimming and burning are the most visible elements of the clean-up operation, and that’s no accident. Over the past few days it’s become clear that far more oil is gushing from the seabed than BP had admitted. Oil has been prevented from reaching the surface by dispersants injected into the flow some 5,000ft below, but is spreading through the midwater in vast, dilute plumes.

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Continued here. (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7134581.ece)

Moxie

24th May 2010, 17:28

It popped into mind this morning that tptw WANT us to believe that our Best engineers are not ABLE to solve this problem ... they WANT us to view life complexities as insurmountable, that we are powerless. I don't buy one damned bit!
Look at this link, it's just 8minutes, but watching 4 will do it for you:

http://www.morningliberty.com/2010/05/16/oil-spill-no-big-deal-may-be-used-as-a-financial-terror-attack-technology-answers/

I'm very disturbed but am directing that energy right where it needs to go!

Gita

24th May 2010, 17:37

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Oil Spill = Illuminati's Covert War on America

http://www.henrymakow.com/rigonfire.jpg

We think about war in terms of missiles and tanks and bombs. But a far superior form of war is to disguise it as a natural disaster like Katrina or an accident like the BP oil spill.

This way we are not even aware of it, and cannot take countermeasures.

The parallels between the oil spill and Katrina are uncanny. In both cases, the American Gulf coast was attacked, and the Presidential response was deemed tardy and ineffective. In the case of Katrina, the levees were blown up 12 hours after the hurricane had passed.

The "tell" is the failure of the Obama Administration to declare a state of emergency and take immediate action to stop the gusher. It is hard to believe that an Administration facing a national election in six months would sit on its hands while oil poured onto America's Gulf coast. Last week, Obama was announcing a commission to study the causes while failing to address the blow-out itself.

It is hard to believe that an industry which hosts hundreds of deep sea oil wells has not developed countermeasures for an underwater blow-out. Hard to believe that the richest and most technologically advanced country in the world is helpless in the face of this disaster.

The optics for Obama are terrible. Even the Huffington Post, which is an Murdoch-sponsored Obama cheering section could not hide its exasperation and impatience with the President's tepid response.

But the Rothschilds treat Presidents like Kleenex -- use and throw away. Every President in my lifetime has left office under a cloud of disgrace. The purpose is to demoralize Americans and make them lose faith in their government and democracy.

Who owns BP? The Rothschilds. Who owns Barack Obama? The Rothschilds. How hard would it be to stage this accident and then ensure a failed response?

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Continued here. (http://www.henrymakow.com/oil_spill_illuminati_covert_wa.html)

Etherios

24th May 2010, 17:49

Gita you make my heart sad...

Gita

24th May 2010, 19:48

Sorry Etherios - not my intention to make anyone sad. :blink: Please go to the laughter threads and be happy again - I do post there as well! :)

deepblue

24th May 2010, 22:32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiM-XjlcIc

danish scientist says it's not crude coming out, but sulfur and other volcanic substances -- a volcano that can't be capped.
haven't posted here since it returned as a pay free - so hello everyone. if true, this can help you plan accordingly.

bashi

25th May 2010, 07:46

Some explosions have happened and "natural" vents opened.
As a result the proposed "Top-Kill" on the seabed has been postponed:

http://monkeyfister.blogspot.com/2010/05/major-change-down-below.html

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Gita

25th May 2010, 07:50

:welcome: A big welcome to you deepblue and thank you for your contribution.:thumb:

:welcome:

Gita

25th May 2010, 08:00

This stuff might actually work!

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Oil Absorber is Ready to Eat Up BP Oil Spill

Hales Global LLC (www.halesglobal.com), a Washington, D.C. and Virginia government relations firm, announced today the existence of a 100% bio-degradable tool -- already being used overseas -- that can help clean up the calamitous BP oil spill off the Southern coast of the United States.

Newport News, Va. (PRWEB) May 24, 2010 -- Hales Global LLC (www.halesglobal.com), a Washington, D.C. and Virginia government relations firm, announced today the existence of a 100% bio-degradable tool -- already being used overseas -- that can help clean up the calamitous BP oil spill off the Southern coast of the United States.

The product, known as the Oil Absorber, sucks the oil off the water, allowing the oil to then be scooped up in a mass form. The product can be used again once the oil is burned from the used product
Hales Global is bringing its client, Los Angeles-based World Energy USA, the product's exclusive U.S. marketer and distributor, to Hales' Newport News, Va. office to demonstrate the product's effectiveness. The group of invitees includes BP Oil, the federal Environmental Protection Agency, the U.S. Coast Guard, the U.S. Navy, media organizations and others.

The product announcement comes one day after BP officials announced on Saturday that it has accepted the invitation of actor Kevin Costner to help clean the oil spill with a specially patented machine

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Continued here. (http://www.prweb.com/releases/Hales_Global/oil_spill/prweb4039304.htm)

Gita

25th May 2010, 08:27

The dispersant is more toxic than the oil itself and needs to be removed immediately but it seems BP has a different idea!!

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BP Refuses EPA Order to Switch to Less-Toxic Oil Dispersant

'Reporting from Los Angeles and Elmer’sBP has rebuffed demands from government officials and environmentalists to use a less-toxic dispersant to break up the oil from its massive offshore spill, saying that the chemical product it is now using continues to be "the best option for subsea application."

On Thursday, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency gave the London-based company 72 hours to replace the dispersant Corexit 9500 or to describe in detail why other dispersants fail to meet environmental standards.

The agency on Saturday released a 12-page document from BP, representing only a portion of the company's full response. Along with several dispersant manufacturers, BP claimed that releasing its full evaluation of alternatives would violate its legal right to keep confidential business information private.'

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continued here. (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-20100523%2C0%2C907236.story)

stardustaquarion

25th May 2010, 11:17

stardustaquarion

25th May 2010, 11:34

Etherios

25th May 2010, 12:11

So this is the total destruction of the upper part of the golf of mexico ... and they just dont care. Good for us hehe.

I really hope the US ppl wake up and demand something ... well its too late atm but the more they wait for something to happen the less the survival chances.. it has reached louisiana right? we will just hear more towns more beaches everyday.

I cant wait and see where this is going really what is their goal.

Gita

25th May 2010, 12:47

Blood of the Earth - The Gulf Oil Spill part 1
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Blood of the Earth - The Gulf Oil Spill part 2

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Gita

25th May 2010, 12:56

This is just disgusting!! :yell::rant:

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BP Oil Spill Has Online Gambling Site Offering Odds On Extinction

The BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has set off a wave of concern over how and when the spill will under control. With the story making headlines for weeks, online sports books are taking advantage by offering odds on the fallout from the spill.

Paddy Power has begun to take bets on which species will be eliminated from the BP disaster. While some critics believe that Paddy Power is exploiting a tough situation, the company is sticking to its guns of being out in front on the gambling front.

"We hope this betting will highlight the environmental catastrophe unfolding right now as a result of the BP oil spill," said Paddy Power, in a press release. "It's a sure bet we'll lose some marine species, the only question is, which ones?"

The Kemp's Riley Turtle is tops on the betting list. The species is already endangered and migrates to the Gulf this time of year. Anyone wishing to bet on these turtles will receive odds of 4/5.

The Bluefin Tuna is second on the list with odds of 6/4. Three different species qualify for the long shots at 20/1. The Gulf Sturgeon, Smalltooth Sawfish, and Elkhorn Coral all offer gamblers a chance to return $20 for every $1 wagered.

The BP oils spill species proposition has only been up for a short period of time, but dozens of bets have already come in. Below is a full list of species and their odds of extinction at Paddy Power.

Kemp's Ridley Turtle 4/5
Bluefin Tuna 6/4
Leatherback Sea Turtle 8/1
Brown Pelicans 8/1
Loggerhead Turtle 12/1
Sperm Whale 16/1
Blue Whale 16/1
gulf Sturgeon 20/1
Smalltooth Sawfish 20/1
Elkhorn coral 20/1

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http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-news/online-casino/bp_oil_spill_has_online_gambling_site_offering_odds_on_extinction_55140.html

Etherios

25th May 2010, 13:08

hahahahahaha /crying .....

Once again humans show to ourselves that we have become the ONLY being in this planet that doesnt deserve to live. And we make fun of it, with out any concern at all. We are all happy with our ignorance and our dead heart. Earth really needs to shake of the bugs(humans) out of her self...

tron

25th May 2010, 13:44

thanks for the language warning on part 2 of the last video.
get the kids out of the room for that one!
;)
"The Kemp’s Ridley is the rarest of the sea turtles. Found almost exclusively in the Gulf of Mexico, the Kemp’s is one of the rarest animals in the world."
turtlehospital.org
denver international airport mural:
http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/1stmural.jpg

Gita

25th May 2010, 15:12

Sorry Tron, didn't get time to watch part 2 otherwise I wouldn't have posted it or given a warning!:o

Thanks Viking. :thumb:

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It is raining oil in Florida

Hi all,

Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car. Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!

I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!

Anyone on Gulf try not to smear touch it as it is harder to wash off if it happens to you. Bands of storm clouds coming this way from Gulf of Mexico...has not actually rained at least where I have been, just ran through the sprinkle. I smell it now I am inside the house...it's just hard for me to believe also. One can think of a other things...oh maybe it was a vehicle in front of you...there was no vehicles near me at the time. So coincidence oil spill in the gulf and it rains oil on my car? okay believe what you will...but I know my gut and what happened to me, what I saw, others witnessed, I took pics of (sorry don't know how to post them, and it photos could be debatable anyway, take my word or not whichever...but we are in deep hocky doo folks.

I was noticing that big black blotch closer to west coast FL on some images that someone posted yesterday on Disasters board...wondering. Well, maybe wrong board but felt more may see it here and ones that live here. Be careful, if it gets on your clothes, pets, hair, eyes, skin...it won't be so easy to wash off as a well waxed car is.

Not checking this for now, gotta wash out my ears, eyes, nose and lay down...change clothes as I smell it now inside the house on my clothes. I did not smell it while out though and my nose is now desensitizing, but I feel nauseated. I am really sensitive though, some may not be so much or get the heavy warnings I do.

Thanks for letting me post this bopp, if you want to move it, okay with me I understand...maybe nobody pay attention anyway and I am not super pops here as it is!
~Eve

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http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php?q=1274767889

Gita

25th May 2010, 15:19

Credo Mutwa & Predicts Oil Spill?
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Gita

25th May 2010, 15:25

:rant::shout:

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BP dispersant use to go on, despite government's deadline

VENICE, La. -- The deadline for BP to stop using a certain kind of toxic dispersant to dissolve the oil in the Gulf has come and gone, but the Associated Press reports that the company is still using it.
The head of the EPA, Lisa Jackson, was in Venice Monday and said BP has to significantly reduce the use of the dispersants.

“The sight that really breaks your heart is the large volumes of oil that have clearly infiltrated the marks,” Jackson said.

Jackson saw the oil on shore for the first time today, this after battling BP over the dispersant being used to break it up, Corexit. State leaders raised concerns about how toxic Corexit might be long-term, especially when injecting it so deep on the ocean floor.

“They use a lot less when they do it down there than to do when they spray it on top,” Jackson said.

Jackson gave BP 48 hours to choose a difference dispersant, one less toxic and more effective. But instead of changing chemicals, the company simply responded that there isn’t enough of the other chemicals to do the job quickly. Jackson said she wasn’t satisfied with BP’s response, but is not forcing them to stop using Corexit.

“We have not yet crossed the line where we should take that tool off the table all together. We should minimize it,” Jackson said. “Well, if I saw today any indication that that material is toxic, if I saw that we were having biodegradation, if I saw data, if the science, if I had science that told me that we were having an impact that was worse than allowing this material to just pile up on the service, then I would stop it.”

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Continued here. (http://www.wwltv.com/news/BP-dispersant-use-to-go-on-despite-governments-deadline-94783644.html)

bluestflame

25th May 2010, 15:28

one way to demobilize private vehicles if they can't see where they are going , might have to put something in the window wiper bottle that clears oily residue off the window , maybe a detergent based liquid , least can be mobile if necessary

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anyone else get the feeling that part of the agenda is to invoke an uprising so they can be justified in suppressing it , in enacting martial law?...

Gita

25th May 2010, 15:39

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Nanotech and the oil spill

As BP and government agencies struggle to stem the devastating flow of oil now hitting the Louisiana coast, there is growing desperation to find a solution -- and fast. Green Earth Technologies, Inc. (GET) is seeking approval from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to disperse manufactured nanoparticles in the Gulf of Mexico to remedy the oil spill. IATP and more than a dozen other organizations think this is a bad idea.

In a letter organized by Friends of the Earth, IATP and others urged EPA to deny approval of this project. Manufactured nanoscale chemicals measure less than 300 nanometers. A human hair is about 80,000 to 100,000 nanometers. The large surface to volume ratio of nanoparticles is supposed to prevent the oil from coagulating and then being carried by ocean currents to damage coastal areas. The problem is that nanoparticles have been found to be toxic to humans, mammals and aquatic life. Manufactured nanoparticles can travel up the food chain from smaller to larger organisms. In this case, the exact composition of nanoparticles being used by Green Earth Technologies are trade secrets so the extent of toxicity is unknown.

The groups wrote, "We understand the enormous technical and regulatory challenges posed by the oil spill. However, two wrongs do not make a right. Exacerbating this grave situation by allowing GET to add pollutants to contaminated land and water should not be allowed, especially considering that the GET nanoparticles could be impossible to recover once introduced into the environment. We fully oppose this irresponsible, unscientific and dangerous experiment."

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Continued here. (http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/blog/iatp/nanotech-and-oil-spill?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

But after more research on nanoparticles...:blink:

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Nanoparticles can damage DNA, increase cancer risk

Tissue studies indicate that nanoparticles, engineered materials about a billionth of a meter in size, could damage DNA and lead to cancer, according to research presented at the 2007 Annual Meeting of the American Association for Cancer Research.

Nanoparticles are small enough to penetrate cell membranes and defenses, yet they are large enough to cause trouble by interfering with normal cell processes, researchers at the University of Massachusetts say.

Such nanoparticles are currently in use in electronics, cosmetics, and chemical manufacturing, among others industries. Because of their extremely small size, they can be difficult to isolate from the larger environment, as they are much too small for removal by conventional filtering techniques.

When nanoparticles find their way into cancer cells, they can wreak havoc, according to Sara Pacheco, an undergraduate researcher at the University of Massachusetts. Yet very little is known about how they behave in the environment or how they interact with and affect humans.

"Unfortunately, only a very small portion of research on nanoparticles is focused on health and safety risks, or on threats to the environment," Pacheco said. "I am concerned because so many new nanoparticles are being developed and there is little regulation on their manufacture, use and disposal."

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Continued here. (http://www.physorg.com/news96041735.html)

Source: American Association for Cancer Research (http://www.aacr.org/)

stardustaquarion

25th May 2010, 16:05

Micjer

25th May 2010, 16:57

hmgeA3dr2uY

deepblue

25th May 2010, 18:01

Re: Knowing Video: Did anyone catch that logo how it was chemtrails in the Sun, turning into a mountaintop!!!! And then the name 'escape artists' for the production company. jay weidner thinks they don't care what happens to Earth because they are leaving to go to Mars, then returning after all is laid waste, to re-seed the world.

Gita

25th May 2010, 19:09

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Fixing oil spill is "no feat," say Iranians

(Reuters) - Plugging the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico is no great challenge compared to what Iran has dealt with in the past, an official at Iran's drilling company said Sunday.

A long-standing adversary of the United States, oil producer Iran has offered to help fight the spill -- a gesture unlikely to be taken up by Washington which is pushing for new U.N. sanctions against Tehran's nuclear program.

Two U.S. cabinet members were to visit the Gulf Coast on Sunday, underscoring serious concerns over what some believe may be the worst oil spill in the United States.

Mehran Alinejad, the head of special drilling operations at the National Iranian Drilling Co., said Iran had successfully dealt with huge oil leaks in the past, particularly when rigs were bombed during a war with Iraq in the 1980s.

"Iranian technical teams have had major achievements in oil well capping compared with which the Gulf of Mexico oil rig is no feat," he told IRNA news agency.

Alinejad repeated Iran's offer of help.

"There is at any rate an ecological disaster in the Gulf of Mexico whose negative consequences include everyone. That is why if we receive a suitable response from the officials of that country we can examine the issue and contribute to its resolution."

Unquote

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE64M12Q20100523

Gita

25th May 2010, 19:15

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Feds May Take Over Oil Cleanup Efforts from BP

Oil has now been gushing into the Gulf of Mexico for 36 days. BP has taken full responsibility for plugging the leak and cleaning up the water and shores, but some are now saying that after a month of attempts, their time at bat is up, and the federal government should take over operations. According to the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, the government can federalize the spill and run the cleanup operation, billing BP for the total cost. However, this remedy is meant to be used as a last resort.

We talk with David Pettit from the Natural Resources Defense Council about the legal obligations of the federal government to take over this process. And David Biello from Scientific American helps us assess whether the federal government has the technology and expertise to more effectively cleanup the spill than a large oil company like BP.

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http://www.thetakeaway.org/2010/may/25/feds-may-take-over-oil-clean-efforts-bp/

stardustaquarion

25th May 2010, 19:17

Gita

25th May 2010, 19:19

Warning: Contains some passionate swearing!

BP Gulf Oil Spill: Billy Nungesser, Parish President, GreenFuelSpot.com

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Majorion

25th May 2010, 19:35

It seems like BP are more interested in salvaging oil than repairing the damage they apparently deny any responsibility for.

This is like murderers running their own trial.

MargueriteBee

25th May 2010, 19:44

I haven't had time to read thru all the posts on this thread but I feel that this was a direct assault on the earth to prevent her from ascending. If they keep the earth down, they keep us.

rosie

25th May 2010, 19:48

NOTE THE DATE

It just keeps on getting deeper and deeper. The powers that wish to be are full bent on playing their game and they are not going to care who's toes they step on, this article is about the big guys fattening each other up, they even had the cleanup company in place before it blew.

NOTE THE DATE on the article link - APRIL 09/10, DAYS BEFORE IT BLEW.

Halliburton agrees to buy Boots & Coots April 9/10

Halliburton said on Friday it agreed to buy Boots & Coots , a company that provides pressure control services for oil and gas wells, in a stock and cash deal worth about $240 million.

Halliburton said Boots & Coots shareholders will receive about $3 for each share of Boots & Coots they hold. That $3 consists of $1.73 in cash and $1.27 in Halliburton stock, according to the statement from Halliburton.

Shares in Boots & Coots closed at $2.35, down about 1.3 percent. Halliburton shares closed at $31.57, down 9 cents or about 0.3 percent.

The deal will be accretive in the first full year of operation, Halliburton said.

The second largest oilfield services company will create a new product service line combining its existing coiled tubing and hydraulic workover operations with Boots & Coots' intervention services and its pressure control business.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/19284/20100410/halliburton-agrees-to-buy-boots-coots.htm

sorry if this has been up here before, could not find it.
love & light

Majorion

25th May 2010, 19:51

I haven't had time to read thru all the posts on this thread but I feel that this was a direct assault on the earth to prevent her from ascending. If they keep the earth down, they keep us.
Please share, who is it you feel are behind an assault on earth? I'm interested in hearing about this.

rosie

25th May 2010, 19:56

More info on Haliburton and Boots and Coots

Boots and Coots is a cleanup operation! So, I guess they knew they may be needing one.

Taken from their website:
Whether it’s a blowout or a complex pressure control problem, your call to Boots & Coots will be answered by the most highly capable group of well control specialists and engineers in the world. Our senior specialists have been in the business for over 30 years and have the distinction of handling the industry’s most complex blowouts and well fires in history. From the Devil’s Cigarette Lighter to Piper Alpha and Iraq to Nigeria, our company specialists have a perfect record of safely capping and killing wells out of control. We know every job is important, and we are ready to “suit up and show up” wherever and whenever we are needed.
http://www.bootsandcoots.com/

Etherios

25th May 2010, 20:31

Look at this video...

I love how the press guy is UNABLE to speak properly and dont know what or how to say it ...

BTW is US land owned by BP? are you not allowed to go to the beach because "BP oil is there?" ... so if they never clean it they own the land? weird...

2_GRyoY0rFY

Micjer

25th May 2010, 21:48

Wtf.....The US government is really doing nothing. Sickening.

Thanks for the vid. Not sure about the "Benny Hill" music though. lol

J-rod7

25th May 2010, 22:08

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Let's call upon our government to do ONE thing they are actually Constitutionally Qualified for = The DEFENSE of our Nations Shores.

This is a clear case where "Eminent Domain" AND "National Defense" are united in one cause for action

Peace

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2007/02/10/surf.jpg

http://vickiasp.com/images/Monterey-Surf-1.jpg

http://www.alwayscleanwater.com/pic/pic/wave-power-large.jpg

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MargueriteBee

26th May 2010, 00:31

I feel it is an assault on the earth because if someone punched a hole in your body you would bleed, they are bleeding her to a state of weakness. It is obvious they are NOT solving the problem, is it on purpose? Think of all the oil wells all over the world.

I refer you to http://georgekavassilas.org/gktalk032010.html

which was posted on this forum. He talks about the earth ascending and becoming a star, also about how our bodies are in tune to the earth vibration and will not do well in space or another planet. If they keep the earth down, they keep us. It just fits IMHO.

WHO? The ones who believe they own the human herd.

Edit: When the hurricanes come and destroy the bread basket, what out! I think the time has come to buy as much food as you can, really.

Lucid Jia

26th May 2010, 01:49

Seems to be getting worse down there. Looks like it just exploded.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3070/glpoilboom.gif

bluestflame

26th May 2010, 01:52

word for the day is "tokenism"

MargueriteBee

26th May 2010, 03:30

word for the day is "tokenism"

Please explain.

bluestflame

26th May 2010, 06:29

tokenism [ˈtəʊkəˌnɪzəm]
n
the practice of making only a token effort or doing no more than the minimum, esp in order to comply with a law
tokenistic adj
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
as in a token gesture because they have to be percieved to be doing something but only cos they have to really half hearted
it can and has been used in other ways but was not inferring anything racial related

was in reference to the "going through the motions" nature of the BP response to this event and the official actions toward BPs conduct

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tokenism

Gita

26th May 2010, 11:35

Thanks Viking. :thumb:

BP to be put under investigation for allegedly operating without having crucial engineering documents.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/Grijalva%20MMS%20ltr.pdf

Gita

26th May 2010, 11:38

Quote

Obama Administration Defends BP Response to Oil Gusher Disaster

'Amid growing popular anger over BP’s disastrous response to the gulf coast oil spill, the Obama administration came to the company’s defense on Monday, while again rejecting any federal takeover of the response.

Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen defended BP’s actions at a White House press conference on Monday, calling them "rational." Allen said that he could not see any reason why the federal government should take over the response to the oil spill.

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Continued here. (http://uruknet.info/?p=m66340&hd=&size=1&l=e)

Gita

26th May 2010, 11:45

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Oil inspectors took company gifts, watchdog group finds

The situation in the Gulf keeps getting worse, and so far, there's no end in sight. Anderson Cooper reports live tonight from the region as BP makes another attempt to stop the leak. Watch "AC360°" tonight at 10 ET on CNN for the latest on stopping the leak.

Washington (CNN) -- Federal inspectors overseeing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico accepted meals and tickets to sporting events from companies they monitored, the Interior Department's inspector general concluded in a report released Wednesday.

In one case, an inspector in the Minerals Management Service office in Lake Charles, Louisiana, conducted inspections of four offshore platforms while negotiating a job with the company, the report states. Others let oil and gas company workers fill out their inspection forms in pencil, with the inspectors writing over those entries in ink before turning them in.

Some in the same office accepted tickets to the 2005 Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl, a college football bowl game in Atlanta, Georgia. One inspector told an office clerk, "Everyone has gotten some sort of gift before at some point" from companies they regulated, according to the report.

Investigators from the inspector general's office, the Interior Department's independent watchdog agency, took their findings to federal prosecutors in Louisiana, the report states. But the U.S. attorney's office in Lake Charles declined to bring charges, according to the report.

Unquote

Continued here. (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/25/oil.spill.interior/index.html?hpt=T2)

Gita

26th May 2010, 11:49

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U.S. won’t take over spill cleanup from BP

The Obama administration's point man on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill yesterday rejected the notion of removing BP and taking over the crisis, saying the government has neither the company's expertise nor its deep-sea equipment.

"To push BP out of the way would raise a question, to replace them with what?" Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen, who is heading the federal response to the spill, said at a White House briefing.
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar suggested during the weekend that the government could intervene aggressively if BP wasn't delivering on stopping the spill.

"If we find that they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing, we'll push them out of the way appropriately," Salazar said.

But asked about that comment yesterday, Allen said: "That's more of a metaphor."

The BP executive in charge of fighting the oil spill said yesterday that his company knows people are frustrated by its failure to plug the well that has been gushing for more than a month and now is spreading damage through Louisiana's wetlands.

Doug Suttles, chief operating officer at BP PLC, went on all three U.S. television network morning talk shows with the same message: "We are doing everything we can, everything I know," he said on NBC's "Today" show.

Unquote

Continued here. (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/RIGG25_20100524-221405/346663/)

Kulapops

26th May 2010, 11:52

let's just hope it's an oil well that ends well

K x

Gita

26th May 2010, 11:54

Quote

Obama Pressed on ‘Who’s Running Show?’ in Gulf Spill (Update1)

May 25 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama faces growing pressure from fellow Democrats who say he should take stronger action to stem the BP Plc oil spill that has been fouling the Gulf of Mexico for more than a month.

“It’s inexplicable,” Louisiana native James Carville, a Democratic consultant who moved to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina in 2005, said today in an interview. “Why do we still not know how much oil has been pumped out? Why did it take us over 30 days to get the pictures? Who’s running this show?”

Obama this week will make his second visit to the region since a rig drilling a well for London-based BP exploded on April 20, killing 11 workers and setting off the spill that’s hit Louisiana shores and threatens Florida and the East Coast. He is “still frustrated” that the leak remains out of control, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said yesterday.

What’s missing is a sense that Obama has taken charge, said presidential historian Douglas Brinkley.

“Obama has yet to have his ‘bull horn’ moment on the Gulf catastrophe,” said Brinkley, a professor at Rice University in Houston, invoking the image of President George W. Bush speaking to New York firefighters after the Sept. 11 attacks.

“The more the images of oil in marshlands, and dead birds washing ashore, the angrier the American people are going to get,” Brinkley said. “Largely, it’s been directed toward BP. But as the weeks turn into months you can feel, almost on a daily basis, the public’s furor start heading toward the White House.”

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Continued here. (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-25/obama-pressed-on-who-s-running-show-in-gulf-spill-update1-.html)

Gita

26th May 2010, 12:00

Beautiful vid. Enjoy. :thumb:

A Message To BP The Oil Spill

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Gita

26th May 2010, 12:06

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“It’s BP’s Oil”

...

The shoreline is packed with men in hats and gumboots and bright blue or white shirts. Nearly all are African-American, all hired from around New Orleans. They tell me they've been standing in these exact same spots for three days. It's breathtakingly hot. They rake the oil and sand into big piles; other workers collect the piles into big plastic bags, and still other workers take them to a plant where the sand is separated out and sent to a hazardous-waste dump and the oil goes on for processing. Then the tide comes in with more oil and everybody starts all over again. Ten dollars an hour. Twelve hours a day. When I joke with one worker that he should pocket the solid gobs of oil he's digging up to show me how far beneath the sand they go, he stops dead and asks me if BP's still trying to use the oil they all collect. "Aw, I knew it!" he says. Another leans on his rake to ask me, "Have they at least shut the oil off yet?" He randomly picks three spots in a three-foot-wide expanse of sand that he's already raked clean and drops his rake in an inch deeper to show me how the oil bubbles up from underneath. He can't count how many times he's raked this same spot in the 33 hours he's worked it since Thursday, but one thing he's sure of, he says, is that he'll be standing right here tomorrow and the next day, too.

Another problem is that after surface cleanup, raking the sand brings up more oil.
http://assets.motherjones.com/environment/2010/05/oilbeachrake.jpg

...

unquote

Full Story here. (http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/05/oil-spill-bp-grand-isle-beach)

Gita

26th May 2010, 12:19

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Lord Mandelson may find treasure in BP oil slick

Lord Mandelson is said to be lined up as a potential successor to Tony Hayward as the chief executive of BP.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20102/mand.jpg

With Tony Hayward struggling to survive the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Mandrake hears that BP grandees are toying with the idea of his being succeeded as chief executive by an intriguing figure: Lord Mandelson.
"What recent events have shown is that we need someone who is adroit at handling the politics and the public relations," whispers my man in the company's offices in St James's Square, London. "Peter knows our company well and was, of course, close to Peter Sutherland [the former chairman] and Lord Browne [the former chief executive]. Some would say it is the perfect fit."

unquote

Continued here. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7760770/Lord-Mandelson-may-find-treasure-in-BP-oil-slick.html)

Source. (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

Gita

26th May 2010, 12:23

"Underwater Spill Footage: ‘This Is a Nightmare…a Nightmare’ Cousteau Jr. Laments During Dive"

Watch Vid here. (http://www.breitbart.tv/underwater-spill-footage-this-is-a-nightmare-a-nightmare-cousteau-jr-says-during-dive/)

greybeard

26th May 2010, 13:28

Civil fine may apply.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100526/tsc-uk-oil-rig-civil-fines-011ccfa.html

Money is no compensation for damage done to the eco system however.
Chris

Gita

26th May 2010, 14:25

BP Engineers Draw Up Plans for 'Top Kill'

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Gita

26th May 2010, 14:33

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As oil spills, Obama touts alternative energy

SAN FRANCISCO — With the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico calling into question his plans to expand offshore drilling, President Barack Obama looks Wednesday to highlight the benefits of alternative energy sources.

Obama was to tour Solyndra Inc., a solar panel manufacturing facility in northern California, where he also planned to speak to workers about how expanding the clean energy sector can create jobs and aid the nation's economic recovery.

The president has long said renewable sources of energy, like wind and solar, will play a vital role in the nation's energy future. He is asking Congress for $9 billion in loan guarantees for renewable energy projects, a request that would be tacked onto a multibillion-dollar spending bill for Afghanistan and other programs.

But Obama has also moved to expand offshore drilling, recognizing the practical reality that the U.S. dependence on oil will continue for many years, and the political reality that more drilling could help him win Republican support for a broad-ranging energy bill.

The expansion Obama announced in March allows drilling from Delaware to central Florida, plus the northern waters of Alaska. Exploration could begin 50 miles off the coast of Virginia by 2012. He also wants Congress to lift a drilling ban in the oil-rich eastern Gulf, 125 miles from Florida beaches.

But those projects are in limbo following the oil spill, which is dumping millions of gallons of oil into the waters near the Louisiana coastline. Obama planned to travel to the region Friday to assess the spill, which has confounded experts in the government and at BP, the company which holds the lease for the rig that exploded and sank April 20.

The White House has said no new drilling will occur until the causes of the accident are thoroughly examined. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar is due to deliver a report to the president Thursday.
At the Solyndra plant, the president planned to reaffirm his earlier assertions that the spill only reinforces the need to find alternatives to oil.

The White House says Solyndra is one of the most successful investments made as part of the president's $826 billion economic stimulus. The company received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Energy Department last year to help build a new manufacturing plant, a project that now employs 1,000 workers.

The company estimates the construction project could create up to 3,000 jobs total, and as many as 1,000 permanent jobs when the facility opens up.

Obama was to return to Washington late Wednesday following the two-day trip to California, where he also headlined a series of fundraisers for Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer, who is facing a tough re-election challenge.

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5juui7didNwh_vzBmJyrbjxkeF-IgD9FUCG9O0

stardustaquarion

26th May 2010, 14:37

stardustaquarion

26th May 2010, 15:22

Ill winds! as the bots say, is raining oil OMG

Found this

quote
Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car. Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!

I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!

Anyone on Gulf try not to smear touch it as it is harder to wash off if it happens to you. Bands of storm clouds coming this way from Gulf of Mexico...has not actually rained at least where I have been, just ran through the sprinkle. I smell it now I am inside the house...it's just hard for me to believe also. One can think of a other things...oh maybe it was a vehicle in front of you...there was no vehicles near me at the time. So coincidence oil spill in the gulf and it rains oil on my car? okay believe what you will...but I know my gut and what happened to me, what I saw, others witnessed, I took pics of (sorry don't know how to post them, and it photos could be debatable anyway, take my word or not whichever...but we are in deep hocky doo folks.
more http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php?q=1274767889

Gita

26th May 2010, 17:09

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html

A Greenpeace activist steps through oil on a beach along the Gulf of Mexico on May 20, 2010 near Venice, Louisiana. (John Moore/Getty Images)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o02_23498001.jpg

Oil reaches the marshlands on the northeast pass of the Mississippi Delta May 23, 2010. (REUTERS/Daniel Beltra/Greenpeace)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o04_23539641.jpg

A dead Northern Gannet covered in oil lies along Grand Isle Beach in Grand Isle, Louisiana May 21, 2010. A member of Tri-State Bird Rescue and Research tagged the spot of the location of the incident. (REUTERS/Sean Gardner)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o05_23507325.jpg

Specks of oil stick onto the foot of Maggie Grace Hurdle, 8, of Rosedale, Louisiana, as she walks along a beach in Grand Isle, Louisiana May 21, 2010. (REUTERS/Sean Gardner)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o09_23509061.jpg

Gita

26th May 2010, 17:21

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...na_shores.html

A reddish egret, its legs and tail feathers coated with oil, flies above the water in Grand Isle, Louisiana, May 20, 2010. (U.S. Coast Guard photo/Petty Officer 3rd Class Patrick Kelley)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o10_8744k007.jpg

Oil floats around booms and through marshlands of the Mississippi Delta on May 23, 2010. (REUTERS/Daniel Beltra/Greenpeace)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o16_23539669.jpg

An oil-stained pelican leaves its nest as oil washes ashore on an island that is home to hundreds of brown pelican nests as well at terns, gulls and roseated spoonbills in Barataria Bay just inside the the coast of Louisiana, Saturday, May 22, 2010. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o18_23524403.jpg

An oil-covered crab crawls past a blob of oil on the beach on May 22, 2010 on Grand Isle, Louisiana.
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o26_23518899.jpg

Gita

26th May 2010, 17:30

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/201...na_shores.html

A shrimp boat is used to collect oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico in the waters of Chandeleur Sound, Louisiana on May 5, 2010. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o34_23500839.jpg

Boat captain Preston Morris shows the oil on his hands while collecting surface samples from the marsh of Pass a Loutre, Louisiana on Wednesday, May 19, 2010. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/oil_05_24/o39_23478421.jpg

Gita

26th May 2010, 17:35

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GULF OIL SPILL COULD HAVE BEEN SEALED IN 8 HOURS ANYTIME !

Ladies and Gentlemen:
The DEEPWATER HORIZON sinking caused twisted 21 inch riser piping to start leaking in three places at 5,000 feet in the Gulf Seabed. Sadly the proven methods to STOP THE LEAK still have not been used since 042010 until today at 052010 for reasons unknown. BP, Governor of Florida and Governor of LA were all given, along with the President, the Counter Pressure Plug information from a UK inventor Branko R. Babic as he invented same in 1991 for Kuwait Oil Fires above the ground and they will work underwater with ROV welding special thick steel tubes with washers to be welded to the interior while the tubes allow full flow of gas, oil, water through tubes into the gulf.

ROV's can be used to WELD UNDERWATER the 5 inch thick washers compressed with thick rubber washers against the inside pipe sealing off all leaking oil, gas and water while the straight through pipe could take the contents flowing through to the TOP of the sea into barges. Keep in mind the CPP with flow pipe has a BALL VALVE wheel operated to shut down the flow and BP could then try to seal the BOP stopping the leak entirely.

BP and Horizon personnel reviewing the messages since 041610 first started denying the idea had merit and they put a straw type pipe six inches inside with rubber flaps then started drawing OFF oil and gas from ONE LEAKING AREA but BP refused to consider the CPP Invention of Branko R. Babic or suggestion to use a "JET SWET' type invention to seal the big pipe and allow the small pipe to function until welded in place then the BALL VALVE WOULD SHUT DOWN THE WELL SO THEY COULD TRY TO USE THE BOP TO SEAL.

What is ODD is a survivor who was the Chief Electronics Technician KNEW the BOP annular was damaged weeks earlier and that the rubber had come up through the piping and was shown to proper supervisors. Also the BOP ELECTRICAL MODULE was damaged plus a battery problem prevented the BOP from shutting down at the time of the alleged ACCIDENT OR INCIDENT causing the disaster. Sounds like CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE CAUSING THE DEATH OF 11 MEN AND RISKING 115 OTHERS that has to be investigated.

I am, as a Professional Plumbing Contractor and former Welder, amazed that BP ignored the requests to use an 8 hour window to make and test the CPP and CPP with piping and ball valve then STOP THE LEAK since 042610 through today 052010. More amazing is the failure of the United States President and others to TAKE OVER THE SITE IN THE INTERESTS OF NATIONAL SECURITY UNTIL EVERYTHING IS REMOVED FROM THE SEA BED AND CONFIRMATION OF CRIMINAL ACTS OR TERRORISM IF NOT MURDER ARE CONFIRMED.

The BP people have been paid an insurance POLICY OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS without any proof the damage was an ACCIDENT or even covered events with knowledge of BOP or other problems ignored.

Anyone desiring a COPY OF PDF'S CONFIRMING FAILURE OF BP to act send an e-mail to backflow2@verizon.net asking for same and it will arrive.

I just finished sending e-mails to everyone and LABEOC on how to siphon OFF THE OIL AND WATER then separate the OIL from water and store the OIL in barges using special equipment known to work for SKIMMING OIL. PRAY FOR FLORIDA, GULF COAST AND EAST COAST OF AMERICA PLUS ISLANDS !

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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=173773

bluestflame

26th May 2010, 17:49

interesting how the oil's been made to turn red to fit the revelations prophecies wonder what was actually in that dispersant

Tuza

26th May 2010, 17:49

Heart breaks for the innocents in all this, there are things I would like to perpetuate on the evil incarnate that did this, I think just leaving them in the oil to bob around in for a week or two without food or water might do it.

Lucrum

26th May 2010, 18:05

Without going through all of the posts that have appeared here after my last visit,

I'm currently watching a live feed of the leak...is it just me or does this look very very odd?
I mean, we have a obvious pipe which is situated more or less horisontally on the seabed...which is semi-casually pluming out oil. This is the main leak? This is the leak they are struggeling so much to stop?
Why not simply put a hose on it and direct it to the surface?

Something tells me that live feed isn't showing the truth at all...so much for being open about the situation...

Edit: So I snooped around BP's website a little and find that what we see on the live feed is the riser, as in tube that brings the oil to the surface normally. I still think the whole situation looks odd, but I guess we'll just have to see how well their new plan works.

Gita

27th May 2010, 09:13

For something a bit different!!

Quote

The Gulf Oil Fire | NY Times Square | Occult Important Dates of April 19-May 1.

Two events in the region of the United States are coincidently occurring during the prime occult spring dates of April 19 through May 1—April 19, 20, 30, and May 1 are said to be important dates for the illuminati satanic occult. These dates are inter-connected with the spring equinox in March. The Gulf of Mexico Fire exploded April 20 and the NY Times Square car bomb “scare” occurred on May 1. There are many inconstancies within the news reports about the NY Times Square car bomb hoax that the details are not even worth writing down. The predominant importance is comprehending that many different piglets are rolling in the mud within the singular Illuminati Occult Pig Pen.

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Continued here. (http://adventofdeception.com/gulf-fire-times-square-occult-importance)

Gita

27th May 2010, 09:23

Quote

UPDATE 10 - Deepwater horizon incident update
April 27 - 9:00 AM CST

Unified Command continues with a comprehensive oil well intervention and spill
response plan following the April 22 sinking of the Transocean Deepwater Horizon
drilling rig 130 miles southeast of New Orleans. More than 1,000 personnel are
involved in the response effort both on and offshore with additional resources
being mobilized as needed.

Incident Facts:

An overflight on Monday, April 26 at 1:30 PM CST determined there was a 600-mile
circumference rainbow sheen with areas of emulsified crude approximately 36
miles offshore the coast of Louisiana.

More than 29,280 feet of boom (barrier) has been assigned to contain the spill.
An additional 80,900 feet is available and 36,100 feet has been ordered.

To date, the oil spill response team has recovered 1,152 barrels (43,384
gallons) of an oil-water mix. Vessels are in place and continuing recovery
operations.

49 response vessels are being used including skimmers, tugs, barges, and
recovery vessels.

29,140 gallons of dispersant have been deployed and an additional 119,734
gallons are available.

Five staging areas are in place and ready to protect sensitive shorelines.
These areas include:

Biloxi, Miss., Pensacola, Fla. Venice, La., Pascagoula, Miss. and Theodore, Ala.

Weather conditions on April 27 - Winds from the Northwest, seas choppy with 3 to
4 foot waves.

126 people were on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig when the incident
occurred. 11 remain unaccounted for; 17 were injured, 3 of them critically. 1
injured person remains in the hospital.

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http://www.incidentnews.gov/entry/526285

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 09:25

Gita

27th May 2010, 10:44

Oil doom with Dylan Ratigan and Matt Simmons

Watch vid here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32450072/vp/37322455#37322455)

Gita

27th May 2010, 10:50

My assessment so far;

Ok guys, it seems that things are pretty bad and no end in sight. Even if they do manage to get this disaster under control the effects are long lasting. Places like Florida, Louisiana and Texas will have all their beach properties abandoned due to the oil and the stench it’d be giving out. Then it’ll be time for hurricane season and can you just imagine the effects of that – oil everywhere within many miles inland. Fema camps be filling up quite rapidly without them even needing to round people up – people would actually be queuing up to go there!:blink: Now on top of all this, the economy’s gonna be going more down the crappers as the fishing industries and the sea food restaurants in these places will be out of work and food supplies won’t be looking good either. Now you may say the Texans like their beef but if the cows are eating oil stained grass then there will be no beef – basically both food supplies from water and land will be contaminated and poisonous. Farmers will also be effected therefore more unemployment and even less food. By more unemployment I’m guessing about 30-50 million people but this is just my estimation! Now what would happen if masses of people (especially in one very large area) have no income and no food? Even the most ‘enlightened’ ones would go into survival mode and if the Katrina scenario is anything to go by – well you can fill in the blanks.

Seems these ‘people’ sure know what they are doing!

bluestflame

27th May 2010, 11:20

might be time to visit relations or old friends in the country

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 11:27

Gita

27th May 2010, 11:36

might be time to visit relations or old friends in the country

Or better still get your relations and old friends to visit you in your country and get them out of there!

Thanks Stardust - who needs Webbots when you got Gitabots!!:pound:

Etherios

27th May 2010, 11:59

I live in Greece.. Today we got our first news report for the oil spill for 3 weeks now and it goes like this.

1st
"Pr.Obama has declared that he changes his attitude towards deep oil drilling and suspends any leases for 6 months. This happened because of the oil disaster..."
2nd
"The company (they didnt say who it was!!!) said that the schedule is going as planed... details about the oil spil bla bla bla"
3rd
"The BP president of the company said that the plan to close the oil spill are going as planed and they have many serious evidence that it will stop the spill"

So guys this is how disinformation works. They told us Obama "punished" the bad oil company we didnt get the name. Then they tell us everything is as scheduled and Last BP explains how it will close it.

End result.

- Obama is acting properly.
- The "company" is saying all is in schedule but they dont tell us about what ... so we understand that they are on schedule to stop the spill ... right?
- BP will try to save the spill.

All is well nothing to see here move along... Jedi power from the TV.

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 12:09

Or better still get your relations and old friends to visit you in your country and get them out of there!

Thanks Stardust - who needs Webbots when you got Gitabots!!:pound:

Sooooo true. Gita you are such a great source of inspiration and information! Thank you for your dedication

:fans:

Gita

27th May 2010, 12:16

Oh stop Stardust, you're making me blush!:o

Btw I really was just jesting.:jester: And there really is no Gitabots!:secret:

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 14:17

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 14:20

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 14:45

"Gitabots" indeed!

Everyone KNOWS Gita only employs "Certified minions".

Minions tend to drool a bit more, but they will cook dinner if whipped properly :)

Gita

27th May 2010, 14:48

This is from 25th May. For some reason there are no latest satellite pics! Also lets not forget that most of the oil is apparently underwater.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/4638642473_911e0621e6_b.jpg

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 14:51

Gee... to watch BP's cam down below, you'd think everything is "all better now"
Live feed link to oil well
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46245.asx?bkup=46260

Of course all you'll get there is a lovely view of everything but the top of the well.

In fact it almost lookes like a closed loop tape of the place.

Gita

27th May 2010, 14:58

"Gitabots" indeed!

Everyone KNOWS Gita only employs "Certified minions".

Minions tend to drool a bit more, but they will cook dinner if whipped properly :)

You got that right King Penguin! :cool:

Now get into that kitchen and whip me up a feast!:pound:

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 15:09

Odd, I was just staring at the "live feed" shot, looking to see if it was looped, or not (we minions tend to stare at things for long periods)
and I just saw this go by in bright red:

Recording failure

May not indicate anything really, but...

Gita

27th May 2010, 15:14

After keeping an eye on the so called live feed for a while, I've come to the conclusion that we are yet again being duped and it's not acutally a live feed. And the 'recording failure' says it all. Good work Fred.:thumb: I knew you'd come in handy.:wink: Now go back and stare at it some more!:laugh: :hug:

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 15:16

btw, just heard on CNN that there will be a press conference/update at the bottom of the hour. (9:30 AM PDT)

And... they fired the head of MMS this morning.
She'll probably find out as soon as she leaves whatever sports/theatre/movie premier she is currently attending, courtesy of BP tickets. ;)

Etherios

27th May 2010, 15:17

Queen Gita the Minion ruler

Gita

27th May 2010, 15:23

Queen Gita the Minion ruler

It's Empress actually!:drama: Empress Gita of Federation of Lighs to be precise. :laugh:

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 15:50

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 15:58

BBC not impresed page updated 15:24 GMT

BP has slowed the flow of oil and gas from a ruptured well into the Gulf of Mexico, a US official told local media.

The company's "top kill" effort has "stabilised the wellhead", Coast Guard commander Admiral Thad Allen said.

But he cautioned it was too early to declare success. This is the first step in BP's plan to seal the well for good.

Meanwhile, scientists said the flow of leaking oil, caused by an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig in April, was much worse than previously estimated.

A panel of experts set up by the US government to investigate the leak said the blown-out well was spewing at least 12,000 barrels (798,000 gallons) of oil per day.

Marcia McNutt, the director of the US Geological Survey, estimated that the flow ranged from 12,000 to 19,000 barrels per day.

Up to now, BP estimated the leak at 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons) per day, but has said that figure is unreliable.

Meanwhile, the head of the Minerals Management Service (MMS), which oversees US drilling operations, has resigned.

Elizabeth "Liz" Birnbaum had run the service since July 2009.

The move comes as President Barack Obama's administration faces criticism of its handling of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.
'Low pressure'

Eleven workers were killed in the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig on 20 April. Millions of gallons of oil have poured into the sea since then.

Mr Obama is also expected to extend a moratorium on deep-water offshore drilling for six months, the White House has said.

Adm Allen told US media the "top kill" procedure, which began on Wednesday, has pumped enough drilling fluid to block some of the oil and gas escaping from the well.

Adm Allen told National Public Radio that BP engineers had "been able to force mud down and not allow any hydrocarbons to come up."

It was the first positive official assessment of BP's latest attempt to plug the well, after previous efforts failed.

BP has not yet commented in detail on the situation, saying merely that its "subsea efforts [were] advancing on several fronts".

The company did not know how long the operation would take, a BP official said.

Also on Thursday, US officials warned that the 2010 Atlantic hurricane season may be one of the worst on record.

The forecast sparked fears that it could complicate efforts to combat the environmental disaster from the gushing oil well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10174861.stm

Gita

27th May 2010, 16:05

I hope they have stopped it but I remain sceptical for the moment. Lets hope it’s not a false hope scenario where in a while they’ll announce that the pressure was too much and it’s gushing again!

Quote

Has the ‘Top Kill’ Attempt Stopped the Gulf Oil Leak? Maybe

After five weeks of unrelenting bad news from the oil spill in the Gulf, neither BP nor the Coast Guard command is likely to announce that they’ve at last stopped the gusher until they’re absolutely, positively, hands-down sure. This morning, they’re falling over themselves to deny a Los Angeles Times report that U.S. Coast Guard commander Thad Allen has declared that the top-kill effort to plug the leak has succeeded.

“Engineers have stopped the flow of oil and gas,” said an article on latimes.com. Nuh-uh answered the Coast Guard. “At the moment we can’t confirm or deny anything,” a spokeswoman said.
Still, 21 hours after engineers began pumping 50,000 lbs of drilling fuel into the broken pipe, things are looking promising. The company’s managing director Robert Dudley told Reuters the attempt was “moving the way we want it to.”

However, even with the preliminary success, BP is nowhere near out of the woods. Official estimates put the amount of oil spilled since the beginning of the disaster at 5,000 barrels a day, although independent watchers place it much higher, perhaps 20,000 or more. Besides that, the long-term environmental, ecological and economic costs of the damage has yet to be measured. And above everything else, the federal government has still not delivered the cleanup pricetag to BP, which will likely run into the billions of dollars.

The company has established an independent mediator to help in the claims process for those affected in the Gulf. So far the company has paid out more than $36 million.

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http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/05/27/has-the-top-kill-attempt-stopped-the-gulf-oil-leak-maybe/

Gita

27th May 2010, 17:16

Matt Simmons: "Theres another leak, much bigger, 5 to 6 miles away".flv :rolleyes: A very informative vid. :thumb:

cDGAoU1H2gM

Gita

27th May 2010, 17:21

Important article - seems things are getting worse.:(

Quote

APNewsBreak: New, giant sea oil plume seen in Gulf

NEW ORLEANS – Marine scientists have discovered a massive new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf of Mexico, stretching 22 miles from the leaking wellhead northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.

The discovery by researchers on the University of South Florida College of Marine Science's Weatherbird II vessel is the second significant undersea plume recorded since the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20.

The thick plume was detected just beneath the surface down to about 3,300 feet, and is more than 6 miles wide, said David Hollander, associate professor of chemical oceanography at the school.

Hollander said the team detected the thickest amount of hydrocarbons, likely from the oil spewing from the blown out well, at about 1,300 feet in the same spot on two separate days this week.

The discovery was important, he said, because it confirmed that the substance found in the water was not naturally occurring and that the plume was at its highest concentration in deeper waters. The researchers will use further testing to determine whether the hydrocarbons they found are the result of dispersants or the emulsification of oil as it traveled away from the well.

The first such plume detected by scientists stretched from the well southwest toward the open sea, but this new undersea oil cloud is headed miles inland into shallower waters where many fish and other species reproduce.

The researchers say they are worried these undersea plumes may are the result of the unprecedented use of chemical dispersants to break up the oil a mile undersea at the site of the leak.

Hollander said the oil they detected has dissolved into the water, and is no longer visible, leading to fears from researchers that the toxicity from the oil and dispersants could pose a big danger to fish larvae and filter feeders such as sperm whales.

"There are two elements to it," Hollander said. "The plume reaching waters on the continental shelf could have a toxic effect on fish larvae, and we also may see a long term response as it cascades up the food web."

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_oil_spill_new_plume

stardustaquarion

27th May 2010, 17:40

Oh well the webbots say it will take 19 MONTHS :faint2: ... and that it will be an earthquake that will finally shut it up!!! :shout::wacko2::hurt:

Gita

27th May 2010, 17:45

The oil has joined the loop current.

Some US National Parks Threatened by Gulf Oil Spill

3j1SFqW06_s

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 18:16

From the WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704717004575268302434395796.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_news

KENNER, La.—More details emerged Wednesday about a disagreement between employees of rig operator Transocean Ltd. and oil giant BP PLC over how to begin shutting down the well just hours before it exploded in the Gulf of Mexico last month.

Testimony on Wednesday about the disagreement, in a hearing held by the U.S. Coast Guard and the Minerals Management Service, which jointly regulate offshore drilling, was likely to bring increased scrutiny to the decisions BP made aboard the rig the day of the explosion, April 20.

There was also likely to be more focus on whether Transocean should have done more to ensure proper procedures were carried out.

Douglas H. Brown, Transocean's chief mechanic on the Deepwater Horizon rig, said key representatives from both companies had a "skirmish" during an 11 a.m. meeting on April 20. Less than 11 hours later, the well had a blowout, an uncontrolled release of oil and gas, killing 11 workers.

[...]

Removing heavy drilling fluid prior to temporarily sealing up a well and abandoning it is normal, but questions have emerged about whether the crew started the process without taking other precautionary measures against gas rising into the pipe.

It wasn't clear what Mr. Harrell objected to specifically about BP's instructions, but the rig's primary driller, Dewey Revette, and tool pusher, Miles Randall Ezell, both of Transocean, also disagreed with BP, Mr. Brown said. However, BP was in charge of the operation and the BP representative prevailed, Mr. Brown said.

"The company man was basically saying, 'This is how it's gonna be,' " said Mr. Brown, who didn't recall the name of the BP representative in question.

Mr. Brown said he didn't normally pay close attention to drilling discussions during the 11 a.m. meetings, which detailed all events on the rig that day. But he said he recalled the dispute, and the cynical reaction of Mr. Harrell as he walked away afterward, in light of the April 20 accident.

Mr. Harrell "pretty much grumbled in his manner, 'I guess that is what we have those pinchers for,' " Mr. Brown testified. He said it was a reference to the shear rams on the drilling operation's blowout preventer, which are supposed to sever the main pipe in case of a disaster.

[...]

Mr. Brown, who suffered head injuries during the accident and had to be airlifted to a hospital in Mobile, Ala., also described his own version of the fear and disorder that overtook the rig after the explosion. The blast knocked him into a hole and left him dazed, he said.

When Mr. Brown traveled to the bridge to notify top officials about an injured co-worker, he said, the room was in chaos. And and when he went to the lifeboats, the man taking roll of the crew under the light of the flames consuming part of the deck appeared to be in shock. "This was a man who had known me nine years and was having trouble remembering my name," Mr. Brown said.

He said some people were unaccounted for, and he wasn't sure anyone went to look for them.

A comment from another forum re. this story...
The company man overruled the rig manager, the tool pusher, AND the driller - the three top operational men on the rig for TO. What a dumba$$.
Nah! The guy was doin' just what he was paid to do. At all costs, "Spill, baby spill!"

Fred

PS: I quit following Obama's line of BS earlier right after:
"The govt has been in charge since day one!"
Right.... so thats why everyone has done nothing but pick their nose for over a month!

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 19:38

From McClatchy papers...
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/26/94884/bp-could-be-held-criminally-liable.html

Wednesday's government hearing in Louisiana, however, failed to determine why — despite unusual pressure and fluid readings on the rig — a BP official decided on the day of the explosion to proceed with removing heavy drilling fluid from the well and replacing it with lighter-weight seawater that was unable to prevent gas from surging to the surface and exploding.

Employees and experts testified that in the hours before the explosion, they witnessed a power struggle over that decision — the kind of argument common among the different parties that lease and run complicated offshore drilling operations, but one that this time, had deadly consequences.

One employee who worked for the rig owner, Transocean, was so mad after the fight that he warned they'd be relying on the rig's blowout preventer if they proceeded the way BP wanted.

"He pretty much grumbled, 'Well, I guess that's what we have those pinchers for,'" the rig's chief mechanic, Doug Brown, said of Jimmy Harrell, the top Transocean official on the rig. "Pinchers" was likely Harrell's reference to the shear rams in the blowout preventers, the final means of stopping an explosion.

BP, though, had ultimate authority over drilling decisions, and Brown said in sworn testimony Wednesday that the BP official at the meeting stood up and said, "This is how it's going to be."

The BP official, a "company man" in industry parlance, would have been the top decision-maker on the rig, although his role may have been complicated by having a number of higher-ranking BP officials on hand to celebrate the Deepwater Horizon's safety record.

Wednesday's hearing continued to provide more detail about what happened in the hours leading up to the explosion, but little explanation for why BP ignored so many warnings and went forward with the controversial decision to remove drilling mud when it did.

On the morning of the explosion, crews had finished injecting cement into the well to strengthen the sides and protect the pipe. At about 5 p.m., pressure tests that revealed something was wrong with the newly cemented well.

It passed one set of so-called positive pressure tests in which fluids were injected into the well to increase pressure to monitor whether the well remained stable. However, it failed a negative pressure test, in which fluid inside the well is reduced to see whether gas leaks into the well through the cement or casing.

Lemme chime in on the Boycott notion.
1. Don't do it!
First, squeeze every single dime from this company to pay for every scrap of damage!
Then hold your boycott. Otherwise, they will simply declare bankruptcy, re-organize without paying a penny, and go merrily on their way.
Squeezing blood from a turnip is hard enough. Getting it from a dead one is even trickier.

Fred

Gita

27th May 2010, 19:47

Soon BP will be blaming Halliburton and Halliburton will be blaming Transocean and Transocean will be blaming BP! What a merry go round!!:rolleyes:

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 19:51

Soon BP will be blaming Halliburton and Halliburton will be blaming Transocean and Transocean will be blaming BP! What a merry go round!!:rolleyes:

BP, though, had ultimate authority over drilling decisions, and Brown said in sworn testimony Wednesday that the BP official at the meeting stood up and said, "This is how it's going to be."

Pretty hard to weasel outa that one, but...

It'd be nice to see Dick Cheney on welfare over this as well.

Yes, I'm at least that mean spirited. :)

Etherios

27th May 2010, 19:51

Soon BP will be blaming Halliburton and Halliburton will be blaming Transocean and Transocean will be blaming BP! What a merry go round!!:rolleyes:

Nah your empress its the GUlfs fault.

The golf of Mexico is pathetic and cant handle a little dark liquid. Not to say that the bottom of the gulf is just a whimp that cant handle a few holes... pff we need to support BP they are framed ... really :flypig:

Fredkc

27th May 2010, 19:57

Interesting tidbit I gleaned from todays foray into "Paranoid TV News" land...

If you believe the "official govt numbers" about the size of this spill,

Which better estimates put at roughly 1/5th the actual ones, then

it is already twice the size of the Exxon-Valdez spill.

"Plug the damned hole!"

Gita

27th May 2010, 19:59

BP, though, had ultimate authority over drilling decisions, and Brown said in sworn testimony Wednesday that the BP official at the meeting stood up and said, "This is how it's going to be."

Pretty hard to weasel outa that one, but...

It'd be nice to see Dick Cheney on welfare over this as well.

Yes, I'm at least that mean spirited. :)

These people are weasels and weasels can weasel their way out of anything just to tie things up legally for years to come. And yes it would be nice to see Cheney on welfare – better still in a dark hole somewhere under the seabed preferably but it will never happen!:sad: Now Fred, that’s mean spirited!:laugh:

Gita

27th May 2010, 20:07

Matt Simmons: "Theres another leak, much bigger, 5 to 6 miles away".flv :rolleyes: A very informative vid. :thumb:

cDGAoU1H2gM

They haven't plugged the damn hole Fred - there's a second much bigger hole!:blink: (see above vid)

Etherios, lets go the whole hog and blame it on Mother Earth! :eek:

Gita

27th May 2010, 20:13

Déjà vu anyone?!!Or just pure coincidence?? :blink: Judge for yourselves.

Rachel Maddow- The more spills change_ the more they stay the same

GHmhxpQEGPo

Eric J (Viking)

27th May 2010, 21:07

Please watch and listen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pOockMI2g

viking

Gita

27th May 2010, 21:13

And he's back - about time! Thanks for the vid Viking.:hug:

fifi

27th May 2010, 22:06

Thank you very much for the vid, Viking. It really soothes my anxiety and my sorrow for the dolphins and the whales. It's like a tiny light in a dark tunnel. Thank you for the positive message.

MorningSong

27th May 2010, 22:55

Welcome back Viking and thank-you for that beautiful vid! Very touching and inspiring, kind of sad yet uplifting.

I hate to be the bringer of possibly bad news, but the NY, US corrispondent on Italian RAI3 news just announced that there are problems with the "Top Kill" attempt and it has been halted. She said that it "is now impossible to stop until secondary wells are drilled...3 -6 months from now... 3 million gallons / day are leaking form the well and it is probably the worst petroleum accident in history ": No other details yet, so I googled and found this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37353392/ns/gulf_oil_spill/

Setback delays 'top kill' effort to seal leak
Gulf oil leak becomes biggest spill in U.S. history

msnbc.com news services
updated 5:54 p.m. ET May 27, 2010

COVINGTON, La. - BP's attempt to choke off the gusher at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico appeared to hit a snag Thursday after crews discovered a complication from its "top kill" procedure, the New York Times reported.

BP halted its effort to plug the well when "engineers saw that too much of the drilling fluid they were injecting into the well had escaped along with the leaking crude oil," The New York Times reported. A technician told the newspaper that pumping had to be halted while crew reviewed plans. “We’re still quite optimistic,” he told the New York Times, but cautioned: “It is not assured and its not a done deal yet. All of this will require some time.” .....

@Gita: great Maddow video! it's on the link here, too...amazing... same problems 31 yrs ago.... they never learn!

Hiram

27th May 2010, 23:16

Actually the concept of injecting the "MUD" (which is really dense drilling fluid) into the wellbore in order to push the oil back down into the Earth was working somewhat. The main issue was that too much of this MUD was leaking out of the cracks in the riser...and was not going down the well.

The riser is the huge pipe that is bent over and crimped on top of the Blow Out Preventer. Its cracked and leaking oil. The other major leak being out the end of the the actual riser which is hundreds of feet away laying horizontal on the seafloor.

Apparently BP plans to try and inject "Junk" which is really small rubber balls and strips of shredded tire into the pipe.

You see there are a number of valves in the Blow-Out Preventer that are partially closed. The hope is this junk will lodge in the valves and slightly decrease the flow---not stop it altogether.

Once the flow has decreased somehwhat due to this "Junk" they will begin pumping MUD again and hopefully they will have enough pressure to push the oil all the way back down the hole into the underground cavity. They will have more pressure because less mud will leak out of the cracks.

I hope this makes sense. Once they equalize the pressure they will pump in quick setting concrete an seal the hole thing up.

Hopefully.

If that doesn't work, they will saw the pipe off the Top of the Blow Out Preventer with a diamond wire-saw and then attach another pipe...sucking the oil directly up to the ship.

I am really in a lot of pain over all of this....but I am Hopeful and Expectant. I am always Hopeful and Expectant.

Rocky_Shorz

28th May 2010, 04:46

However, on May 21, scientists reported that an apparent natural shift in the Loop Current may move it away from the oil and offer Florida and the Atlantic coast at least a temporary reprieve from receiving more oil.

This happened the day before the projected path was meant to pour it into the gulf stream and pull it into the Atlantic...

the POWER of prayers...

Keep bending reality, we will survive...

Gita

28th May 2010, 09:13

Quote

Gulf leak eclipses Exxon Valdez as worst US spill

ROBERT, La. – As BP labored for a second day Thursday to choke off the leak at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, dire new government estimates showed the disaster has easily eclipsed the Exxon Valdez as the biggest oil spill in U.S. history.

After an 18-hour delay to assess its efforts and bring in more materials, BP resumed pumping heavy drilling mud into the blown-out well 5,000 feet underwater. Officials said it could be late Friday or the weekend before the company knows if the procedure known as a top kill has cut off the oil that has been flowing for five weeks.

As the world waited, President Barack Obama announced major new restrictions on drilling projects, and the head of the federal agency that regulates the industry resigned under pressure, becoming the highest-ranking political casualty of the crisis so far.

BP PLC insisted the top kill was progressing as planned, though the company acknowledged drilling mud was escaping from the broken pipe along with the leaking crude.
"The fact that we had a bunch of mud going up the riser isn't ideal but it's not necessarily indicative of a problem," said spokesman Tom Mueller.

Early Thursday, officials said the process was going well, but later in the day they announced pumping had been suspended 16 hours earlier. BP did not characterize the suspension as a setback, and Eric Smith, associate director of the Tulane Energy Institute, said the move did not indicate the top kill had failed.

"The good news is that they pumped in up to 65 barrels a minute and the thing didn't blow apart," Smith said. "It's taken the most pressure it needs to see and it's held together."

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Continued here. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill)

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Déjà vu anyone?!!Or just pure coincidence?? :blink: Judge for yourselves.

Rachel Maddow- The more spills change_ the more they stay the same

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Yes it is a great vid MorningSong. Worth reposting. :)

Gita

28th May 2010, 09:20

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Oil Slick Clean-Up Sparks Fresh Health Fears

US President Barack Obama will return to the Gulf of Mexico later to see the effect of the oil spill as new health worries emerge following the disaster

Amid the environmental catastrophe there were growing fears for cleanup workers, some of whom had to be airlifted for treatment after becoming sick while out at sea.
All 125 commercial fishing boats helping to clean up the oil have been recalled after seven workers fell ill.

There are local fears they could have been affected by the chemical dispersant Corexit, which is used to break down the oil for faster decomposition in the water.

BP, whose burst drilling rig led to what experts are now calling the worst spill in US history, played down the claims and insisted any ill-effects were coincidental.

"As I've stated many times, if there is a less toxic, more effective product (than Corexit), we'll switch to it, without a doubt," chief operations officer Doug Suttles said.

But the oil giant, which has announced it has now spent more than $930m (£640m) on its response to the spill, confirmed the cause of the illnesses was being investigated.

If nothing else, this disaster should serve as a wake-up call. My job is to get this fixed. President Obama, on the eve of his visit.

It comes as the latest "best estimates" put the total spill to date at 19 million UK gallons, already double the Exxon Valdez disaster.

An expert panel, which includes the US coast guard and government agencies, believes between 315,000 UK gallons to 500,000 UK gallons is pouring out each day.

The rate is several times worse than last month's estimate by the government and BP.

But the BP's Worst Case estimate stands at a staggering 77 million UK gallons to date.

Meanwhile, the company has pressed on with its risky bid to plug the ruptured oil well - dubbed the "top kill" maneuver - which, even if successful, will still leave millions of gallons of crude sloshing about in the Gulf waters.

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Continued here. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Oil-Spill-Clean-Up-Health-Fears-Barack-Obama-To-Visit-Louisiana-Amid-Worries-Over-Chemical-Cleaner/Article/201005415639808?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15639808_Oil_Spill_Clean-Up_Health_Fears%3A_Barack_Obama_To_Visit_Louisiana_Amid_Worries_Over_Chemical_Cleaner)

Eric J (Viking)

28th May 2010, 10:13

Erm.... thanks for all the 'welcome backs' my freinds...but I was never away...just snoozing on the bench!!!

I just wanted to say my little chicken Gita...thanks for all your input and others with this thread, your an angel...

It's great that we are making folks aware of this stupendous disaster, but let not forget what we also need to do is raise our conciousness at the same time...

I have said many times before if we can get pass the critical mass, then we can do anything!! BUT WE ALL NEED TO FOCUS AND TRAIN OUR THOUGHTS TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO!!

Just keep on trucking...

viking

stardustaquarion

28th May 2010, 10:14

Welcome back Viking and thank you for the video. I agree almost with everything except to focus on a "New World Order", true that she says "of the very best kind" but words are spells as I am learning lately and tptb has buzz words as Lindsey William says for a purpose. TPTB magnetize those buzz words with the life force of the sheeple and many have died in their rituals which involve the current wars

Lets focus on a egalitarian world in which we live in harmony with all beings small and large and where by the power of our own self resposibility we chose to respect all life, a world without governments or oppression, a world of freedom within and without

I personally think we need to ask the planet to seal the rip herself! that will be the best and less toxic solution

:wave:

stardustaquarion

28th May 2010, 10:18

Gita

28th May 2010, 10:46

stardustaquarion

28th May 2010, 10:50

I don't understand why the fisherman are not given masks! :confused:

Gita

28th May 2010, 13:02

Good question Stardust.:thumb:

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Hurricane Warnings: 'Hell Of A Year' Ahead

The coming Atlantic storm season may bring the most destructive hurricanes in years, it is being warned.

The 2008 storm season saw Gustav, Hanna, Ike and Josephine in quick succession
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2008/Sep/Week1/15093016.jpg

Up to 14 hurricanes are being predicted for the Western Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) - and up to seven of these could be major storms.

"The numbers are going to go up quite high," said hurricane forecaster William Gray.

This year's season, which runs from next week to the end of November, "looks like a hell of a year," he added.
...

They could even halt BP's efforts to stem the Gulf of Mexico oil leak.

"If we have a severe storm... my biggest concern is storm surge. Pushing oil up on land even further, up on beach areas in Mississippi, possibly Alabama," said meteorologist Aaron Studwell.

Such a surge would damage beaches and further inundate marshes that authorities are currently straining to protect from the oil leak, Mr Studwell said.
He added that even if BP were to halt further leaking immediately, enough oil is in the sea already to cause an environmental disaster.

Unusually warm sea temperatures are behind NOAA's predictions, but how active the season is depends on how strongly weather condition La Nina forms, which encourages storms to develop.

The NOAA says conditions for La Nina are looking very favourable.

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Full article. (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Hurricanes-Could-Be-The-Worst-For-Years---NOAA-Says-Seven-Could-Be-Major-Storms/Article/201005415639847?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Page_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15639847_US_Hurricanes_Could_Be_The_Worst_For_Years_-_NOAA_Says_Seven_Could_Be_Major_Storms)

kudzy

28th May 2010, 14:48

This quote is from: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100528/hl_time/08599199252600

""This is called a 'dynamic kill,'" Suttles explained, which means engineers pump for a while, then stop to measure oil pressure and flow rates and make any necessary adjustments."

See, they know what the flow rates are.

btw: That video
Rachel Maddow- The more spills change_ the more they stay the same
Now that's weird. Sure history repeats itself but ....

rosie

28th May 2010, 17:47

More doom and gloom :eek:

The Power company's down there depend on clean water to run their plants for all Gulf Power.
They already have booms in place - this was done long time ago to prevent any of THEIR oil getting into the oceans.

They are very concerned, here is one article about it:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2010/05/102705-energy-oil-spill-risks-gulf-power-plants/

Fredkc

28th May 2010, 18:16

A recap of something I thought was very alarming, from Gita's MSNBC vid post. An interview with Matt Simmons & Nickolas Pozzi (sp?): "Theres another leak, much bigger, 5 to 6 miles away".

5-6 miles away... the "real" hole. "possibly a 'natural fracture', but also could be where the wellhead REALLY is. It is spilling some 120,000 gallons a day, has developed a large mass bigger than maryland and delaware, and several hundred feet thick...

Note: If BP is allowed to declare this either an act of nature, or an act of God, then I have no idea when sanity will reign.
Quoting Simmons & Pozzi: "We may have spent the last 30 days chasing a mouse, while a tiger is standing right behind us."
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Next lovely thought comes from a summary about Corexit 9500 from EU Times:

The dispersal agent Corexit 9500 is a solvent originally developed by Exxon and now manufactured by the Nalco Holding Company of Naperville, Illinois that is four times more toxic than oil (oil is toxic at 11 ppm (parts per million), Corexit 9500 at only 2.61ppm).
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Finally this lil jewel from a woman in Florida;
http://cgi.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=22797

Date: Thursday, 27-May-2010 05:34:26
It is raining oil in Florida
Hi all,
Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car.

Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!

I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!

Anyone on Gulf try not to smear touch it as it is harder to wash off if it happens to you. Bands of storm clouds coming this way from Gulf of Mexico...has not actually rained at least where I have been, just ran through the sprinkle. I smell it now I am inside the house...it's just hard for me to believe.

Someone bring me LOTS of Tequila soon! I'm going to need it.

Etherios

28th May 2010, 20:03

we really need to inform any south US ppl we know to escape... toxic rain will be there soon.

Damn i hope we wont see all south US with toxic rain. I read somewhere this will mean the total destruction of all the ecosystem of the south US to bacteria lvl... i think that includes humans right?

Ruis

28th May 2010, 21:37

Looks like Vikings initial post was much closer to bone than thought. Well shut my mouth for being such a cynic!

One can only hope that some action will be taken before hurricane season turns this disaster into an oceanic Armageddon.
:ohwell:

tron

28th May 2010, 22:24

My friend's girl is coast guard reserve.
She was told she had to go in 4 weeks. then days later it was one week.
As of last night she was leaving next week.
This morning she was called and told she
has to get on the plane tomorrow morning! no exceptions.

:confused:

The other day after really realizing that i am funding this oil thing I decided to give my prized possession away and not make profit of my mistake of buying it. now I'm vintage jeepless and free as a bird in my heart.
you make the change. The time is now. I chose not to continue to feed that spark even if it is totally orchestrated. These dark things only make me aware of how much in the light i am truly standing.

:hippie:

ill trade this:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/demetristars/SUC51727-1.jpg

For this:

http://seapics.com/assets/pictures/032916-450-Kemps-ridley-sea-turtle.jpg

Micjer

29th May 2010, 04:09

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They may have a use for these after all. This will cause widespread sickness very soon if it is not stopped.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/Coffine-liners-close-up.jpg

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Rocky_Shorz

29th May 2010, 06:39

the plume they found yesterday was clear oil and 21 miles across, today they found a plume of black oil deep water that might be several hundred miles across... They drove for a whole day and never found the edge...

It has already turned the housing market in southern California from people evacuating Florida and the southern coastal area, the tourist industry is booking up to be the best in many years. Florida tourist industry is loosing bookings at 2-3%/day...

I think this is when we are going to see if the legal system does the right thing when BP claims bankruptcy to seize all assets and use all funds from oil coming out of the gulf for supporting the region for the next 30-40 years while it recovers from this disaster.

CetaceousOne

29th May 2010, 06:49

Please watch and listen...

Thanks for the video Viking.

There is much wisdom and love in that message.

stardustaquarion

29th May 2010, 07:14

Gita

29th May 2010, 10:18

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The Picture Obama and BP Don't Want You to See

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20104/00000023.jpg

Photo taken from a commercial jet over the Gulf of Mexico. This is what they dont want you to see. The big picture, oil as far as the eye can see...

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Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

Gita

29th May 2010, 10:34

Good read.:thumb:

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Gulf oil gusher conspiracy cover-up

Was this disaster just an accident, or were other more sinister forces at play in order to further cripple society toward a more manageable population size? Ominous midnight symbolism. BP's "live" feed caught in an obvious short loop shows further evidence of cover-up.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20104/100526_bp_loop-feed_anim_by_sda_150.gif

The Internet is abuzz regarding the 2008 moving "Knowing" that includes a scene in which actor Nicolas Cage is watching the news on television. The clock shows 11:59 when the anchor announces a devastating fire burning out of control in the gulf. Then the clock flips to 12:00, and the anchor says "that story leads our headlines at the top of the hour."

Midnight has long been associated with end times. With the "doomsday clock", the closer the clock is to midnight, the closer the world is estimated to be to global disaster.

One of the interesting things about the New World Order connivers is that for some reason they believe they must announce what they're going to do before they do it to you. Often, this predictive programming is done through the medium of Hollywood.

Most people would look at this as a coincidence, or maybe a lucky guess. I certainly don't have all the answers, but I do think this is an important question to pose.

Could it be that this Gulf oil volcano disaster was planned ahead of time for some nefarious purpose? What possible benefit could such a breach have for the oil industry, whose image is already suffering from an increasing abhorrence to its pollution and the wars it fosters? You would think that such an unfolding would only galvanize people in favor of cleaner alternative fuels and energy sources.

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Continued here. (http://pesn.com/2010/05/27/9501657_Gulf_oil_gusher_conspiracy_cover-up/)

Gita

29th May 2010, 10:47

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Oil spill threatens 'total destruction'

The British Petroleum oil spill is threatening the entire eastern half of the North American continent with "total destruction," reports say.

An ominous report by Russia's Ministry of Natural Resources warned of the impending disaster resulting from the British Petroleum (BP) oil and gas leak in the Gulf of Mexico, calling it the worst environmental catastrophe in all of human history, the European Union Times reported.

Russian scientists believe BP is pumping millions of gallons of Corexit 9500, a chemical dispersal agent, under the Gulf of Mexico waters to hide the full extent of the leak, now estimated to be over 2.9 million gallons a day.

Experts say Corexit 9500 is a solvent four times more toxic than oil.

The agent, scientists believe, has a 2.61ppm toxicity level, and when mixed with the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico, its molecules will be able to “phase transition.”

This transition involves the change of the liquid into a gaseous state, which can be absorbed by clouds. The gas will then be released as “toxic rain” leading to “unimaginable environmental catastrophe” destroying all life forms from the “bottom of the evolutionary chart to the top,” the report said.

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http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=128113&sectionid=3510203

Gita

29th May 2010, 11:04

Readers’ Photos: The Gulf Oil Spill

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2010/05/26/us/20100527-gulf-usergen-slideshow.html

Gita

29th May 2010, 11:13

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Louisiana Congressman Breaks Down Talking About Oil Spill

BP's vagueness on their attempts to quell the giant oil spill threatening the gulf coast is starting to look deliberate. They're keeping journalists away. They say the 'top kill' method worked. It's emerged it didn't. One congressman has had enough.

Via Amy Davidson at the New Yorker, here's Congressman Charlie Melancon addressing a hearing on the spill on Thursday. He's no bleeding heart. He's supported oil companies before. But the damage to his constituency — damage BP is assiduously preventing journalists from reporting — got too much for him. His heartfelt sadness at what he's seen hints at why they might want to keep reporters away. His testimony becomes too much for him at 2.00, but the whole thing is worth watching:

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http://gawker.com/5550342/louisiana-congressman-breaks-down-talking-about-oil-spill

Gita

29th May 2010, 11:23

I don't understand why the fisherman are not given masks! :confused:

Stardust, here’s the answer;

“Workers were not given respiratory protection equipment because according to Austin, prior air sampling performed in the area concluded that the level of chemical exposure was permissible.”

http://www.propublica.org/feature/cleanup-boats-sent-to-shore-after-more-workers-get-sick

Gita

29th May 2010, 11:26

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BP Engineers Making Little Headway on Leaking Well

HOUSTON — BP engineers struggled Friday to plug a gushing oil well a mile under the sea, but as of late in the day they had made little headway in stemming the flow.

Amid mixed messages about problems and progress, the effort — called a “top kill” — continued for a third day, with engineers describing a painstaking process of trying to plug the hole, using different weights of mud and sizes of debris like golf balls and tires, and then watching and waiting. They cannot use brute force because they risk making the leak worse if they damage the pipes leading down to the well.

Despite an apparent lack of progress, officials said they would continue with the process for another 48 hours, into Sunday, before giving up and considering other options, including another containment dome to try to capture the oil.

Continued here. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/us/29spill.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fnational%2Findex.jsonp)

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Gita

29th May 2010, 11:29

Tracking the oil spill in the Gulf (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/01/us/20100501-oil-spill-tracker.html?ref=us)

Eric J (Viking)

29th May 2010, 11:56

Not sure if this has been posted, Interview with Lindsey Williams...this is proving to be CATASTROPHIC!!! oh boy...

Next 2 weeks should be interesting...keep positive thoughts going...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlMS1h3KYrE

viking

bashi

29th May 2010, 12:22

NALCO is the producer of the toxic "Corexit" oil surfacant used by BP.
Quote from a producer of bio-degradeable oil spill solution:

"Beyond anything Nalco could come up with without stealing my formula. So they tried to cover it up. Because BP MUST buy Corexit only. Not just is there some connections between BP and Nalco (Corexit) but also Exxon. This is the "wizard behind the screen." Exxon invented Corexit in various forms. Exxon (so I understand ;) still supplies the main raw materials to make the toxic dispersant."

"While they were dumping Corexit my product was tied up in testing. The formulas were to be sent to… exxonmobile email addresses. The specifics were all about Nalco specification! Once they discovered my product rocked! They ordered 100,000 plus gallons then the **** hit the fan! Total regulatory freeze up for me. Nothing but testing and a shipping delay. They held up payments (which for a small family biz can be crushing) and stalled. They attempted to prevent us from telling the world we could produce anymore than 15000 gallons per day when in truth 100000 per day or more or possible for anyone under the appropriate business circumstances."

I AM MAD AS ....

link: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/50810

.

stardustaquarion

29th May 2010, 13:51

What if

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Is a mud volcano....:wacko2:

Micjer

29th May 2010, 15:37

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/00000023.jpg

The Picture Obama and BP Don't Want You to See

Perhaps this disaster helps explain what they were thinking they needed these for ..... Georgia coffins

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/Coffine-liners-close-up.jpg

Gita

29th May 2010, 15:45

Thanks Micjer - already posted on previous page though - post 474 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1859-Mother-of-all-gushers-could-kill-Earth-s-oceans&p=22612&viewfull=1#post22612)!

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Ten Things You Need (But Don't Want) To Know About the BP Oil Spill

http://www.globalresearch.ca/coverStoryPictures/19408.jpg

How the owner of the exploded oil rig has made $270 million off the disaster, and nine other shocking, depressing facts about the oil spill.

It's been 37 days since BP's offshore oil rig, Deepwater Horizon, exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. Since then, crude oil has been hemorrhaging into ocean waters and wreaking unknown havoc on our ecosystem -- unknown because there is no accurate estimate of how many barrels of oil are contaminating the Gulf.

Though BP officially admits to only a few thousand barrels spilled each day, expert estimates peg the damage at 60,000 barrels or over 2.5 million gallons daily. (Perhaps we'd know more if BP hadn't barred independent engineers from inspecting the breach.) Measures to quell the gusher have proved lackluster at best, and unlike the country's last big oil spill -- Exxon-Valdez in 1989 -- the oil is coming from the ground, not a tanker, so we have no idea how much more oil could continue to pollute the Gulf's waters.

The Deepwater Horizon disaster reminds us what can happen -- and will continue to happen -- when corporate malfeasance and neglect meet governmental regulatory failure.

The corporate media is tracking the disaster with front-page articles and nightly news headlines every day (if it bleeds, or spills, it leads!), but the under-reported aspects to this nightmarish tale paint the most chilling picture of the actors and actions behind the catastrophe. In no particular order, here are 10 things about the BP spill you may not know and may not want to know -- but you should.

1. Oil rig owner has made $270 million off the oil leak

Transocean Ltd., the owner of the Deepwater Horizon rig leased by BP, has been flying under the radar in the mainstream blame game. The world's largest offshore drilling contractor, the company is conveniently headquartered in corporate-friendly Switzerland, and it's no stranger to oil disasters. In 1979, an oil well it was drilling in the very same Gulf of Mexico ignited, sending the drill platform into the sea and causing one of the largest oil spills by the time it was capped... nine months later.

This experience undoubtedly influenced Transocean's decision to insure theDeepwater Horizon rig for about twice what it was worth. In a conference call to analysts earlier this month, Transocean reported making a $270 million profit from insurance payouts after the disaster. It's not hard to bet on failure when you know it's somewhat assured.

2. BP has a terrible safety record

BP has a long record of oil-related disasters in the United States. In 2005, BP's Texas City refineryexploded, killing 15 workers and injuring another 170. The next year, one of its Alaska pipelines leaked 200,000 gallons of crude oil. According to Public Citizen, BP has paid $550 million in fines. BP seems to particularly enjoy violating the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts, and has paid the two largest fines in the Occupational Safety and Health Administration's history. (Is it any surprise that BP played a central, though greatly under-reported, role in the failure to contain the Exxon-Valdez spill years earlier?)

With Deepwater Horizon, BP didn't break its dismal trend. In addition to choosing a cheaper -- and less safe -- casing to outfit the well that eventually burst, the company chose not to equip Deepwater Horizon with an acoustic trigger, a last-resort option that could have shut down the well even if it was damaged badly, and which is required in most developed countries that allow offshore drilling. In fact, BP employs these devices in its rigs located near England, but because the United States recommends rather than requires them, BP had no incentive to buy one -- even though they only cost $500,000.

SeizeBP.org estimates that BP makes $500,000 in under eight minutes.

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Continued here. (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19408)

yiolas

29th May 2010, 15:59

Hi Guys,
I'm looking at the BP live underwater stream at 'Event Horizon' , looks like they're getting ready to saw through something.
BP Link

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

Eric J (Viking)

29th May 2010, 17:08

US predicts up to 7 major Atlantic hurricanes ... mmm not good...

The Atlantic hurricane season could be the busiest since 2005, when Katrina and Rita caused massive destruction along the same part of the Gulf Coast now struggling with the largest offshore oil spill in U.S. history, government scientists said Thursday.

The 2010 season may spawn as many as 23 named tropical storms, including up to seven major hurricanes, a number not likely to be affected by the spill, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicted.

Eight to 14 storms would strengthen into hurricanes, with top winds of 74 mph or higher, the agency said. Three to seven of those could become major storms that reach Category 3 or higher _ meaning they bring sustained winds of at least 111 mph.

"This season could be one of the more active on record," NOAA administrator Jane Lubchenco said in a news release. "The greater likelihood of storms brings an increased risk of a landfall. In short, we urge everyone to be prepared."

A hurricane might help break up the oil spill staining the Gulf of Mexico, but the oil won't affect significantly how tropical storms develop, forecasters said. They don't know what kind of environmental hazards to expect, though there are fears that winds and waves could push the oil deeper into estuaries and wetlands.

further reading...
http://www.headlinenewsbureau.com/siterun_data/news/us/doc8efc5ab1830d854b25eb1158bbe2457f.html?utm_source=SendBlaster&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Email%Campaign&utm_content=Headline%News&utm_campaign=Headline%News%Bureau

viking

MargueriteBee

29th May 2010, 18:06

All I can say is get out on your own while you can.

I vow to cut my gas consumption to a little as possible. As I live at my work I am lucky. I think I can get it down to four gallons a month.

What can you do?

Let's punish the oil companies by NOT buying any gas we don't have to.

This means to me that instead of riding the quad around the ranch, I walk. And, only go to town twice a month. I can do that.

stardustaquarion

29th May 2010, 18:59

27 min ago

In a major setback for oil giant BP, the company’s engineers, who were working to plug the gushing oil well today, have failed in their efforts, said a technician working on the project.

The company has been trying hard to plug the leakage a mile under the sea to stem the flow spreading into the Gulf of Mexico, but in vain.

BP launched its third attempt called the “junk shot” yesterday. The method involves pumping odds and ends like plastic cubes, knotted rope, and golf balls into the blowout preventer. The procedure was complementary to BP’s other highly ambitious effort known as a “top kill,” which began four days ago. Under the top kill procedure the engineers pumped heavy mud into the well to counteract the push of the escaping oil. The plan was to fill the leak with cement if the well is sealed.

The technician working on the project said that pumping has been stopped and the engineers are reviewing the data. “Right now, I would not be optimistic,” the technician, who spoke on condition of anonymity. He added that if another attempt at the junk shot were to succeed, “that would turn things around.”

Meanwhile, BP said today that it would prefer to remain silent on the assertions made by the technician. Officials added that the process would continue tomorrow as well and only then BP will declare it a success or failure.

Tony Hayward, BP’s chief executive, told CNN yesterday that their was a 60 to 70 percent chance that the latest effort will plug the leakage. On his part, Doug Suttles, BP’s chief operating officer, added that the attempt to plug the leakage is going according to plan.

He, however, admitted that there have been stops and starts to the actual pumping. “We’re going to stay with this as long as we need to. We’re not going to rush,” noted Suttles.

http://www.lanewsmonitor.com/news/BPs-Effort-to-Plug-Gulf-Of-Mexico-Oil-Leak-Faces-Another-Setback-1275157518/[COLOR="red"]

bluestflame

29th May 2010, 20:53

good idea if you're moving to do it before they start monitoring movements

3(C)+me

29th May 2010, 22:24

The following is an excert of a Dolores Cannon hyposis session..This was the subconcious part of the person speaking...
It mentioned the oil slick....

She then said, "the dark oil that is bubbling up from the ocean floor; it's the
earth-mother doing its part to remind us. The oil slick represents all of the
darkness and ugliness the human race still carries, buried deep within its
hidden depths. The oil is bubbling up to the surface to show us our
relationship to the dark relationship we have to power, through money and oil,
and the earth is helping show us the darkness of that relationship. There is no
harm, she is not being harmed. The animals are part of us, they are here to
demonstrate to us our cruelty to ourselves. There appears to be harm, but there
is no harm, all is an illusion, a teaching."

She then went on to say that "we're soon moving into a vortex that will clear
all that is unclear within us" - and how the pains in the body represent parts
of us that are still unclear and in the past. That this would be like walking
through a wall and any part that is stuck, is stuck in the past.

I alternate between being angry to being sad about all this...
I hope this will be helpful....

greybeard

29th May 2010, 22:36

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10191622.stm
Failed
Chris

tron

30th May 2010, 00:51

chris that really sucks it failed.
yet listening to you sing blu bayu lifts me up alittle...

lilac

30th May 2010, 02:07

This is a time of shock and deep sadness regarding the Gulf Coast Oil Spill, but those are two emotions that are not needed, unless; they motivate us. PLEASE PLEASE use this catastrophe to join together to heal this situation. Send letters, join up in Prayer Groups… do whatever you are motivated to do, use what Gifts you have but DO SOMETHING!

We are using the process of Ho’oponopono and Dr. Emoto’s work blessing water. Don’t feel that you have to use Ho’oponopono; you can use whatever prayer you wish. Both internet links are provided below if you wish to read up on either of these modalities.

1) Have a glass container of water..(we use a clear drinking glass) Place this in a location where you will notice or pass frequently.

2) Set it on an index card or paper which says Gulf Coast Water… or Atlantic Ocean water.

3) Pray over the water DAILY or as many times as you think of it.

4) We use Ho’oponopono... I place this on a paper in front of the water so any, or all can use this process.

a. I LOVE YOU
b. I’M SORRY
c. PLEASE FORGIVE ME
d. THANK YOU

Expanded version:
I love you.
I am sorry for any
Pain or suffering you have experienced.
Join me in forgiving ourselves for
The belief in separation.
I trust you to love me.
Thank you

Dr. Emoto:
http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/dr.emotos_message_2.html
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

Ho’oponopono:

http://www.hooponoponohelp.com/
http://www.thereisaway.org/Ho%27oponopono_cleaning_meditation.htm

rosie

30th May 2010, 03:53

There is so much more to be effected down the road it just baffles my imagination. No one, and I feel, no one, will be able to even imagine the larger picture this will take.

Bird's from Canada and the United States that migrate to the Gulf to breed are just one of too many that I care to think about, whom will be effected severely effected by this disaster.

I have joined the prayers here and around the earth, never giving up hope on natures survival instinct kicking in and righting this wrong in any way possible with as less damage as necessary, if this being the last possible action to halt the bleeding vein of earth's black blood.

All hearts are as of one that I can see around me with compassion for earth herself, and not themselves. This is in it's self, pretty amazing and awakening for all around. I am just sad that it has to take something so deep to awaken mankinds deep love for our life giving mother earth.

in love & light :wub:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2rgko02.jpg

Rocky_Shorz

30th May 2010, 05:48

I'm surprised by how few research vessels are on the water...

There are videos out now showing palm beach Florida with thousands of dead fish that have washed up...

They say the oil hasn't made it there, so what is killing off the fish?

The sight of an oil slick spreading across the surface of the Gulf of Mexico is bad enough. But now scientists from the University of South Florida have found signs that a 6-mile-wide plume of invisible oil is snaking beneath the surface, in the deepest recesses of the gulf.

The thickest concentration, they found, was more than 2 miles beneath the surface — a mile deeper than where the Deepwater Horizon well has been spewing oil for the past month — and about 20 miles northeast of the collapsed rig.

The plume of dissolved oil stretched 6 miles down, said David Hollander, a USF chemical oceanographer and lead investigator for the project. This is the second oil plume to be discovered by scientists, and it marks the first time such plumes have been detected after a spill, Hollander said. He compared them to streams of lava flowing out of an undersea volcano.

While the fudgelike goo coating Louisiana's marshes is getting lots of television coverage, the two undersea plumes show damage is also occurring where no one can see it: deep in the gulf, miles from land, where marine life has always been abundant and yet largely unobserved.

The USF research vessel Weatherbird II was dispatched Saturday to take samples in the DeSoto Canyon, a deep valley that cuts through the continental shelf south of the Florida Panhandle. In the canyon, an upwelling of nutrient-rich water means far more fish and other species swim there...

The scientists aboard the ship — some from USF, some from the Florida Fish and Wildlife Research Institute in St. Petersburg — discovered the plume on Tuesday. What's not known is the role that chemical dispersants play in the plume. BP has been spraying the dispersants both on the surface slick and directly on the gushing wellhead in the deep ocean, something never before attempted. The dispersants, being used in unprecedented quantities, are supposed to spread the oil so it will evaporate and degrade more quickly. That could be what has created the plumes, Hollander said.

The concern is that the dispersants are simply holding the oil below the surface, where it is harder to clean...

Full Story (http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/water/article1098093.ece)

bluestflame

30th May 2010, 06:25

the "dispersant" in addition to other duties

Gita

30th May 2010, 08:38

EPIC FAIL!

Now that’s a shocker!!:blink:

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BP Says 'Top Kill' Has Failed to Plug Gulf Oil Leak

ROBERT, La. (May 29) -- The most ambitious bid yet to stop the worst oil spill in U.S. history ended in failure Saturday after BP was unable to overwhelm the gusher of crude with heavy fluids and junk. President Obama called the setback "as enraging as it is heartbreaking."

The oil giant immediately began readying its next attempted fix, using robot submarines to cut the pipe that's gushing the oil and cap it with funnel-like device, but the only guaranteed solution remains more than two months away.

The company determined the "top kill" had failed after it spent three days pumping heavy drilling mud into the crippled well 5,000 feet underwater. It's the latest in a series of failures to stop the crude that's fouling marshland and beaches, as estimates of how much oil is leaking grow more dire.

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Continued here. (http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/bp-says-top-kill-hasnt-stopped-gulf-oil-leak/19496642?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fnation%2Farticle%2Fbp-says-top-kill-hasnt-stopped-gulf-oil-leak%2F19496642)

Gita

30th May 2010, 08:45

Quote

Gulf residents eye slow fix for historic oil spill

...

MOVING ON

Todd Greaslan, a 23-year-old bartender from New Orleans, said BP was "experimenting at everybody else's expense."

BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward had predicted that despite risks, the top kill -- the injection of heavy fluid into the well -- had a 60 to 70 percent chance of success. He said he did not know why it failed to stop the gusher.

The misstep is likely to drive his credibility lower, along with his company's market value, which has dropped by 25 percent since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on April 20, killing 11 workers.

The government estimated last week that 12,000 to 19,000 barrels (504,000 to 798,000 gallons/1.9 million to 3 million liters) a day are leaking from the well, far above BP's figure of 5,000 barrels.
At that rate, the government now knows that the Gulf disaster has surpassed the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaskan waters.

BP has moved to its next option, a lower marine riser package cap to contain the oil and channel it to a drill ship on the surface -- rather than plug the well. That will take about four days to place.

...

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Full article. (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/100530/n_top_news/cnews_us_oil_rig_leak)