Mother of all Gushers - (Discussion Only Thread)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans ... Perhaps its time for some intervention!!

Imagine a pipe 5 feet wide spewing crude oil like a fire hose from what could be the planets' largest, high-pressure oil and gas reserve. With the best technology available to man, the Deepwater Horizon rig popped a hole into that reserve and was overwhelmed. If this isn't contained, it could poison all the oceans of the world.

"Well if you say the fire hose has a 70,000 psi pump on the other end yes! No comparison here. The volume out rises geometrically with pressure. Its a squares function. Two times the pressure is 4 times the push. The Alaska pipeline is 4 feet in diameter and pushes with a lot less pressure. This situation in the Gulf of Mexico is stunning dangerous." -- Paul Noel (May 2, 2010)

Last night we received the following text in an email, author not identified. I passed it by Paul Noel, who is an expert in the field. His response follows thereafter. In calculating the gallons required to kill the oceans, remember that oil goes to the surface, where life is concentrated.

The Oil Mess

http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oceans/Deepwater_Horizon_burning_fuel_300.jpg

The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oceans/

viking

[stardustaquarion]

Lets hope is not 200,000 bd viking. Cliff did talk about diseased oceans. This is such bad news! but I am afraid there is no one other than us (humans) to pick up the tab

Night night

[Rocky_Shorz]

wow Viking you always seem to dig up such critical info that sends us reeling...

if there was ever a time for the ETs to show themselves it is right now, they either step forward and show they want to protect humans or not show and prove they are just in our imagination and have much better things to do than worry about the 3rd rock from the sun...

This is it people, disclosure time is now or never...

[pilotsimone]

Thank you for posting this. I hope others will post if they have information pertaining to the magnitude of this spill.

Any recommendations on what can be done by us to help out? Is there a certain decree that would be helpful? I want to do something...so right now, I'm just sending love to the oceans and all the life being affected by the spill.

Welcoming all suggestions.

[grace]

this is a complete over reaction. this was posted on godlike productions and is such a typical article for that website. personally, i pride this forum on being way above this kind of thing.

[Anchor]

We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

I think this is BS on many levels! The main one though, is that if we keep denying our power this way - or even trying to use it, we will not progress.

Here is what I want, join me if you like.

-O- Hole

-=- Sealing

--- Sealed

Keep the envisioning, only need a few hundred to do this - thousands would be better millions would ensure it. "The hole is closing up. The hole is sealed"

John..

[Swanny]

Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans ... Perhaps its time for some intervention!!


Yea where is your GFL now that they are really needed???

[Swanny]

How come the GFL never mentioned the oil spill in any of their messages? Bet they do in the next one :rolleyes:

[Ross]

Nearly 50% of the seafood consumed by Americans comes from the Gulf of Mexico, by the way. That explains why seafood contains such an alarmingly high concentration of mercury as well as industrial chemicals -- because the Gulf of Mexico is America's toilet where every toxic chemical, heavy metal and pharmaceutical that's flushed down the drain ends up getting dumped. No wonder the Gulf of Mexico is home to one of the planet's largest ocean "dead zones" -- over 6,000 square miles of dead water where fish can't even survive (http://serc.carleton.edu/microbelif...).

And that was before the oil spill. Now, thanks to a creeping oil slick that's approaching shorelines throughout the gulf, the breeding grounds for a huge number of marine species is now threatened. Species from pelicans to shrimp are likely to be devastated by this oil slick.

It's already being called a "mega-disaster" by environmentalists. "The magnitude and the potential for ecological damage is probably more great than anything we've ever seen in the Gulf of Mexico," said Nancy Rabalais in a Washington Post interview (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...). She heads the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium in Cocodrie, La. "Once it hits the shoreline, it'll get into everything."

"Ninety-seven percent of commercial fish and shellfish in the Gulf depend on estuaries and wetlands during their life cycle," said Jane Lubchenco, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Those wetlands are about to be covered with a thick brown slime that will make reproduction of seafood species virtually impossible.

Oil continues to spill out of the sunken rig wreck at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day. So far, there's little hope of stopping it. Observers are already characterizing this spill as "worse than the Exxon Valdez spill" in 1989.

Everything you've read here so far is being widely reported in the mainstream media. The story that follows, however, is much more difficult to find.

[Ross]

The Halliburton link and Washington hypocrisy
It was only a few weeks ago that Obama proudly announced he would expand offshore drilling, breaking one of his many now-worthless campaign promises. The lack of outcry from Democrats over this announcement was nothing short of bizarre: If Bush had announced an expansion of offshore drilling, he would have been widely (and rightly) condemned for it by the left. But when Obama announces the same thing, it's apparently okay with Democrats.

Back on the Republican side of things, the company Halliburton -- yes, the same one that rakes in billions of dollars in profits rebuilding things in the Middle East after the U.S. military blows them up -- is the company that completed the "rig cementing" just 20 hours before the rig exploded. A federal study, meanwhile, shows that most rig blowouts are caused by problems with rig cementing. So now it appears that Halliburton may be implicated in this environmental disaster. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...)

The San Jose Mercury News is reporting that a lawsuit filed by a rig technician who was injured in the explosion claims Halliburton made crucial mistakes in cementing the well, "increasing the pressure at the well and contributing to the fire, explosion and resulting oil spill." (http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_...)

[debzqld]

Thank you to both VIKING & ROSS for posting this info here because I for one had absolutely no idea of the REAL implications regarding oil spillage in the oceans other than the basics. I have had my eyes opened on this travisty. I too will meditate on healing 'the whole'. I have to say it: What in the hell are the greedy powers that be doing to our planet - trashing it fast it would seem. Oh if only more of us could become less dependent on consumerism hence materialism. We will be driven back to basics whether we want to or not but it will have to be a good thing if we hope to redeem the Earth in all it's magnificience before it's destroyed and unrecognisable - much like MARS! Thanks again. I's so with you on this.

[pilotsimone]

It was only a few weeks ago that Obama proudly announced he would expand offshore drilling, breaking one of his many now-worthless campaign promises. The lack of outcry from Democrats over this announcement was nothing short of bizarre: If Bush had announced an expansion of offshore drilling, he would have been widely (and rightly) condemned for it by the left. But when Obama announces the same thing, it's apparently okay with Democrats.

Actually, that's untrue. Obama said he would be willing to compromise on his position against offshore oil drilling if it were part of a more overarching strategy to lower energy costs. This was several months before the election in '08.

Not an important detail, but I hate to see incorrect information posted.

[Majorion]

This oil spill is an epic fail on so many levels, its not just an American issue, its a fail on part of humanity, the fact we still haven't progressed past this rubbish, even with the knowledge of now, it would be different if we - the human race - did 'not' know what the heck we're doing, but we do, and that's the worst thing.

[Robstar]

Here is an audio interview of one of the workers on the rig, if anyone is interested.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1790422&spid=32364

This one will take a while to fix folks.:(
Also funny the mention of a SWAT team to the rig.

[SpoonMan]

"BP began drilling a well May 2 aimed at the bottom of the leaking well that crews plan to use to inject cement and seal it, Suttles said. That work is expected to take as long as three months. In the meantime, the company plans to install custom- built, 65-ton containment structures(domes) in about a week, which are designed to capture the leaking oil and pump it to vessels on the surface, he said."

Three months... Thats a lot of oil to be spilled.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Ross thanks for your input...any other info with regard to this is appreciated...

Hey John I agree with you, our collected minds can fix this and I always think positively as I am sure many other do as well...is our army big enough?

Swanny I am not going to tell you again the GFL and Ashtar are two different groups...One is to distract and the other to inform...(my opinion) read the original thread...if you carry with this you will have to do extra lessons after school...in fact I won't you to write 100 lines now!!!
'The GFL and Ashtar are not the same' You can go now! :cool2:
viking

[Swanny]

Viking neither the GFL or the Ashtar are real



Yet again mans greed for money has cost the planet dearly :(

Also they can use this is push the price of petrol through the roof

[stardustaquarion]

The viking is right, here is from Terra Daily

Quote
An estimated 210,000 gallons of crude has been streaming each day from the wellhead below the Deepwater Horizon rig that sank on April 22, two days after a massive explosion that killed 11 workers.
Unquote

The rest of the article http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Obama_defends_his_US_oil_slick_response_999.html

It is serious and BP is desperate

[stardustaquarion]

Viking neither the GFL or the Ashtar are real



Yet again mans greed for money has cost the planet dearly :(

Also they can use this is push the price of petrol through the roof

I think it is more complicated that this Swanny. EVERYBODY that uses a way of transportation, buys anything oil based or even heats their house is as responsible as BP because if there are no consumers there is no business

We have created and supported many monsters, perhaps it is time to re-think the way we are living

[Swanny]

Yea I see what you're saying, we do use oil but mainly because that's all they have allowed us to use.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Ok Swanny...I am not going to debate about whether the GFL of Ashtar are real on this Thread...please visit my other one for this...

The oil spillage is for real...and is a great concern...

viking

[morguana]

i just wish to say thank you viking for posting this info, and for ross's contributions too,
its always good to read informative and interesting material, as well as keeping up to date with the issues we face within this world
love m x

[stardustaquarion]

More news, this ones a bit more hopefull http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Better_weather_spurs_hope_over_US_oil_spill_999.html

[stardustaquarion]

Very sobering

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A call from Morningmaya she says "They want to nuke the spill!" This is madness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej8MXv386Dc

There is no embeded link

[Vidya Moksha]

well ive never worn my marine biologist hat before in here :)

oil is carbon... carbon is food.. worms eat oil. ok, they are not the prettiest worms, but they love oil. The capitellid worms will thrive, Capitella capitata is found in high numbers around oil fields.. so looking at the biomass of the oceans then hey... nothing much changes... ahh.. ok anything with gills will die and divesrity will plummet, but hey, life will continue, just not in a form that we would consider 'healthy' or 'pretty', but then we do soil our home continuosly eh?

anaerobic bacteria will thrive, who needs oxygen anyway?

capitella:
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/resources/Grzimek_inverts/Polychaeta/Capitella_capitata.jpg/medium.jpg

from all destruction flies new dawn.... it just might not support us any more eh?

these will die:
http://www.noc.soton.ac.uk/o4s/gl/f/img/fanworm_sabellapav_sdaly.jpg

[K626]

Nearly 50% of the seafood consumed by Americans comes from the Gulf of Mexico, by the way. That explains why seafood contains such an alarmingly high concentration of mercury as well as industrial chemicals -- because the Gulf of Mexico is America's toilet where every toxic chemical, heavy metal and pharmaceutical that's flushed down the drain ends up getting dumped. No wonder the Gulf of Mexico is home to one of the planet's largest ocean "dead zones" -- over 6,000 square miles of dead water where fish can't even survive (http://serc.carleton.edu/microbelif...).

And that was before the oil spill. Now, thanks to a creeping oil slick that's approaching shorelines throughout the gulf, the breeding grounds for a huge number of marine species is now threatened. Species from pelicans to shrimp are likely to be devastated by this oil slick.

It's already being called a "mega-disaster" by environmentalists. "The magnitude and the potential for ecological damage is probably more great than anything we've ever seen in the Gulf of Mexico," said Nancy Rabalais in a Washington Post interview (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...). She heads the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium in Cocodrie, La. "Once it hits the shoreline, it'll get into everything."

"Ninety-seven percent of commercial fish and shellfish in the Gulf depend on estuaries and wetlands during their life cycle," said Jane Lubchenco, head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Those wetlands are about to be covered with a thick brown slime that will make reproduction of seafood species virtually impossible.

Oil continues to spill out of the sunken rig wreck at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day. So far, there's little hope of stopping it. Observers are already characterizing this spill as "worse than the Exxon Valdez spill" in 1989.

Everything you've read here so far is being widely reported in the mainstream media. The story that follows, however, is much more difficult to find.

These links aren't working....:confused:

[avid]

Dick Cheney's old outfit "Halliburton buys Boots & Coots" an oil & gas well control outfit for $240-million on April 12...then April 20 along comes the start of the current disaster. Repeat after me: "Coincidence....luck......."
http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm
Oh dear......

[Gita]

Quote

Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig Disaster


'In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.

The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf.

"One oil rig goes down and we're going to be rolling in dough," Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. "Suck it, fishies and birdies!"

Read more: Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig Disaster (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/goldman-sachs-reveals-it_b_558774.html)


Unquote

Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

[avid]

THE GULF OF MEXICO OIL PLATFORM EXPLOSION:
CEMENT CASING THAT BLEW WAS INSTALLED BY HALLIBURTON :
MORE U.S./DVD SABOTAGE AGAINST THE BRITISH? YES...
Just as our suspicions from the outset over the Polish air catastrophe at Smolensk proved to be justified, so do we and many others smell a giant rat concerning the explosion and fire at the BP oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico. And the face of the rat bears an uncanny resemblance to the ugly physiognomy of George Bush Sr.

• UPDATE, 3RD MAY 2010: Anecdotal evidence is indeed emerging pointing to sabotage. The lack of the usual press-frenzy interviews with survivors is also suspicious. But the main reason that we suspect sabotage is that this operation has coincided with key developments behind the scenes involving the British which has severely inconvenienced the evil American criminal kleptocracy. Seen in that light, this is a blatant sabotage operation tantamount to an act of war against the UK perpetrated as a revenge attack for the basest of motives. Unfortunately at this juncture we can't elaborate on what has been going on behind the scenes, but you can draw your own conclusions.

Further indications that this is a deliberate, malicious revenge operation against British interests (a very dangerous departure, if true, as there is such a phenomenon as 'tit for tat') are evident in the harsh, mafioso-style language emerging from the throats of US officials. For instance, Mr Kenneth Salazar, US Interior Secretary (i.e., the 'Minister of the Interior') is reported as having stated on 2nd May: 'Our job basically is to keep the boot on the neck of [BP] to carry out the responsibilities they have both under the law and contractually to move forward and stop this spill', even though it was almost certrainly a consequence of a revenge sabotage and provocation operation perpetrated by disaffected rogue revolutionary cadres within the US structures working to the CIA/DVD agenda.

For starters, the cement casing that blew up was installed by the corrupt Cheney-CIA operation called Halliburton. Apparently this is the second time in a year that a Halliburton casing has failed catastrophically on an oil rig.

It may be recalled from our earlier coverage that Halliburton operates a huge parasitical buying and ordering department within the Central Intelligence Agency and a parallel parasitical department inside the Pentagon, and that both these entities scam the opposite host on a routine basis, at the expense of the US taxpayer. Whether this unbelievable duplicated CIA scandal was investigated and wound up after we and others exposed it [see report dated 26th May 2008, excerpted below: ARCHIVE], we don't know. What we do recall is it became the subject of a Grand Jury investigation.

Horror stories associated with this colossal corruption op. included the faulty Halliburton gun manufactured in Saudi Arabia that routinely exploded and killed the gunner, which Halliburton continued selling long after the accidents in question (plus the despicably amoral cover-up of the reason for the gun operators' deaths); and the notorious delivery of 1,000 toasters which could be bought for $19.99 at any hardware store, but which Halliburton invoiced to the Pentagon for $1,891 a piece, on the spurious pretext that they were manufactured from a special metal.

Now the oil rig that exploded in the Gulf of Mexico at 10:pm CST on 20th April 2010, was 'Deepwater Horizon' owned by Transocean Limited, based in Zug, Switzerland, with its principal office located in HOUSTON, Texas, and other offices in Zug and Vernier, Switzerland, and in George Town, Cayman Islands. Zug is where Marc Rich, real name HANS BRAND, the long-range Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD) operative and East-West intermediary, is based.

The explosion occurred on the very same day that Transocean shares started trading in Europe, as is confirmed by the following Press Release dated 20th April 2010:

http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/News-748.html?c=113031&;p=irol-news&nyo=0

'ZUG, SWITZERLAND, Apr 20, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- Transocean Ltd. (NYSE: RIG) (SIX: RIGN), the world's largest offshore drilling contractor, announced that its shares will begin trading on SIX Swiss Exchange ("SIX") today under the symbol (RIGN). Transocean's shares also trade on the New York Stock Exchange under the symbol (RIG)'.

UPDATE:
GOLDMAN SACHS TOOK A SHORT POSITION ON GULF OF MEXICO. THEY MUST HAVE HAD PRIOR INSIDE INFORMATION ON THE INTENDED RIG SABOTAGE OPERATION AGAINST THE BRITISH. WHICH THEY KNEW ABOUT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MAIN TARGET. NOTICE THAT THE FRENCH INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVE TOURRE WAS BRIEFED ABOUT THE SABOTAGE IN ADVANCE. SPLENDID CHANCE TO MAKE MONEY WHILE THRASHING THE BRITS. See above.

The following New York report waffles about another 'public relations disaster'. NO! Another example of BRAZEN ARROGANCE AND DEFIANCE OF THE RULE OF LAW, plus an 'in-your-face' exploitation of INSIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE INTENDED OIL RIG SABOTAGE.

And why would Goldman do that? Because it's at the WRONG END of the financial re-setting that's taking place behind the scenes, and it's being brought to heel, an experience it has never known before and which, in its pride and arrogance, it thought could never happen. BUT IT HAS.

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report): In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.

The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf [of Mexico].


Following this sabotage, Barack Obama reversed course on offshore drilling, BARELY THREE WEEKS after he had publicly announced a revised domestic energy policy lifting the longstanding moratorium on certain offshore drilling. Specifically, on 30th April 2010, the controlled US 'State News Agency' Associated Press reported:

'A top adviser to President Barack Obama said Friday that no new oil drilling would be authorized until authorities learn what caused the explosion of the rig Deepwater Horizon. David Axelrod told ABC's 'Good Morning America' that 'no additional drilling has been authorized and none will until we find out what has happened here'. Obama recently lifted a drilling moratorium for many offshore areas, including the Atlantic and Gulf areas'.

'The oil slick could become the nation's worst environmental disaster in decades, threatening even the Exxon Valdez in scope'.

According to Reuters [25th April 2010]:

'Swiss-based Transocean Ltd.'s Deepwater Horizon sank on Thursday, two days after it exploded and caught fire while finishing a well for BP Plc., 42 miles off the Louisiana coast.

Eleven workers from the rig are missing and presumed dead in what is the worst oil rig disaster in almost a decade. The Coast Guard on Friday suspended a search for the workers.

London-based BP, which is financially responsible for the cleanup, has deployed an armada of ships and aircraft to contain the oil slick.

The explosion came almost three weeks after President Barack Obama unveiled plans for a limited expansion of US offshore oil and gas drilling.... The explosion occurred as the rig was capping a discovery well pending production, company officials said. Some 115 of the 126 workers on board at the time of the explosion were rescued'.

• HOWEVER:

• The 'Deepwater Horizon' operation received a safety award in 2009.

• Has British Petroleum at last realised that it is just as hazardous to do business adjacent to US waters as it is to do business in the Soviet Union?

If BP had had the wit to subscribe to Soviet Analyst years ago, we could have informed them that a primary purpose, from the Soviet perspective, of enticing foreign oil corporations into the 'former' USSR was to procure the necessary transfer of technology into Soviet hands, before the GRU-KGB-controlled 'oligarchs' would squeeze the Western operators out.

• The Americans similarly use sabotage to destabilise the foreign competition.

• As you can see, there is more than a passing indication that this sabotage may be a desperate Bush Crime Syndicate-related (i.e., DVD) operation, with the non-coincidental 'happy' outcome that British Petroleum, sabotaged again, bleeds financially.

• In other words, yet another typically hardnosed US kick in the teeth for the Brits, not unassociated, we suspect, with concurrent forceful financial developments in the background.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/288_endemic_corruption_in_brussels_and_halliburton

Christopher Story - the whole situation absolutely stinks of corruption.....:mad2:

[Micjer]

This reminds me of the book of Revelation (which I think was actually talking about a volcano) where it says....

8:8

.."a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea; and a third of the sea became blood. And a third of the creatures were in the sea, and had life, died; "

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/0427-oil-slick-gulf_jpg_full_600.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/0427-oil-gulf-spill_jpg_full_600.jpg

[Northern Boy]

nice post mic On a side note it seems our good friends Goldman Sachs who have a love affair with green paper went out of their way to Short the Gulf Of Mexico one day before the rig collapse . What is shorting you might ask, Its when a big financial institution bets something is going to fail or problems are going to develop in the area in question. Much like the put options that occurred against certain airlines just before 9-11 read the link


http://cromalternativemoney.org/index.php/en/media/news/goldman-sachs-shorted-gulf-of-mexico-one-day-before-oil-rig-accident.html

[Swami]

US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig


Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took “gratifying revenge” on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn’t get worse, they couldn’t be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

[Micjer]

Can everyone say FALSE FLAG!!!!


I have a hard time believing North Korea did it, especially when you see Goldman Sachs profiting from the disaster.

However I do believe that North Korea would do the dirty bomb and take down the power grid if the US attacked them first. I can't see them "committing suicide" otherwise.

[Richard]

In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water. Government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman Sachs employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf. "One oil rig goes down and we're going to be rolling in dough," Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. "Suck it, fishies and birdies!"http://cromalternativemoney.org/index.php/en/media/news/goldman-sachs-shorted-gulf-of-mexico-one-day-before-oil-rig-accident.html

[Gita]

Quote

Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig Disaster


'In what is looming as another public relations predicament for Goldman Sachs, the banking giant admitted today that it made "a substantial financial bet against the Gulf of Mexico" one day before the sinking of an oil rig in that body of water.

The new revelations came to light after government investigators turned up new emails from Goldman employee Fabrice "Fabulous Fab" Tourre in which he bragged to a girlfriend that the firm was taking a "big short" position on the Gulf.

"One oil rig goes down and we're going to be rolling in dough," Mr. Tourre wrote in one email. "Suck it, fishies and birdies!"

Read more: Goldman Sachs Reveals it Shorted Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig Disaster (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/goldman-sachs-reveals-it_b_558774.html)


Unquote

Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Richard, are you trying to impersonate Fred??:suspicious:

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Halliburton link and Washington hypocrisy
It was only a few weeks ago that Obama proudly announced he would expand offshore drilling, breaking one of his many now-worthless campaign promises. The lack of outcry from Democrats over this announcement was nothing short of bizarre: If Bush had announced an expansion of offshore drilling, he would have been widely (and rightly) condemned for it by the left. But when Obama announces the same thing, it's apparently okay with Democrats.

Well let's think of it another way...

The Republicans publicly go against everything that Obama proposes...

What better way to get them to stand against offshore drilling than to say he is for it...

When they propose a bill to stop the drilling who will be smiling as he signs it?

It won't be Cheney... lol



Administration officials said Obama could change his support for the plan, depending on what was found to have caused the rig blast last week off Louisiana that left 11 workers missing, presumed dead, and led to the huge slick...

[Richard]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Richard, are you trying to impersonate Fred??:suspicious:

Lol, well it wouldn't be a bad thing, i love the guy but no.. i didna see the post. :wacko2:

[Rocky_Shorz]

nice post mic On a side note it seems our good friends Goldman Sachs who have a love affair with green paper went out of their way to Short the Gulf Of Mexico one day before the rig collapse . What is shorting you might ask, Its when a big financial institution bets something is going to fail or problems are going to develop in the area in question. Much like the put options that occurred against certain airlines just before 9-11 read the link


http://cromalternativemoney.org/index.php/en/media/news/goldman-sachs-shorted-gulf-of-mexico-one-day-before-oil-rig-accident.html

wow so Dick Cheney's oil Rig was getting set up for a possible false flag terrorist attack and something went wrong and it blew up early?

Where are the insiders to give us the scoop...


and what timing right after the White hats arrest the New York bomber and 5 people in Pakistan in the training center he was tied too...


(hey Stardust... did you notice all of the 11s around this event...)

[stardustaquarion]

Lol, well it wouldn't be a bad thing, i love the guy but no.. i didna see the post. :wacko2:

I think it is about your avatar. Very nice! Fred is also a penguin :)

[Peace of Mind]

BP( oil company) say's capping the pipe will be like a delicate surgery...claiming it will take weeks to stop the bleeding. :suspicious:

I think I had my fill of http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae177/POM_011/heath-mcpherson-buffalo-chips.png

Peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

no wonder he was having trouble cracking jokes if he knew this happened before the big meeting with the press...


I agree with Micjer this is going to lead back to the ones pushing to have revelation 8:8 unfold...

48 = IIII IIII IIII + 22nd = II II = IIII IIII : IIII IIII = 8:8

[avid]

*squirts the thread with Bullsh*t repellant*
North Korean submarine? Oh dear oh dear - it's Halliburton - follow the money.....!

[Rocky_Shorz]

Back to Anglo Saxon... and the Over-Government games...

OK so let's work this through, we knew that false flag attacks were coming to get a fight going with North Korea...

Now we have London papers jumping up and down saying this was an economic attack on Britain from America...

The company that owned this rig is Hyundai motors, the oil was for BP and the construction Halburton...

Now Russians are leaking this was an attack from North Korea...

So tell me, why would the UK based over government want Britains mad at Americans?

What is Fulford's informants saying on all of this?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Thanks Viking for having it handy...

Viking's Fulford Thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?411-Fulfords-Latest...&highlight=fulford)


The Russians also held giant naval exercises in the Sea of Japan in
what seems to be a signal to the Japanese that “we both have an interest
in containing China.” Ever since Obama went to China last year to
propose the US and China create a G2, the Japanese have begun to doubt
if the US would really go to war with China to save them. That is why
they are now probing the possibility of allying themselves with India,
Russia and other countries that actually have borders with China.

The North Koreans also seem to be ratcheting up the pressure on South
Korea to come up with a peace agreement. Sorcha Faal, the US Naval
Intelligence information/ disinformation site, claims it was the North
Koreans who blew up the oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico. Our source in
China linked to the politburo confirmed this, saying the new North
Korean regime has decided to “display its strength, bravery and
determination.” Since North Korea and South Korea are technically at
war, North Korea is actually allowed to carry out such acts of sabotage.
Other sources believe it was the Bush/Nazi faction that blew up the oil
rig to spite the British and create distraction from their troubles.
However, since North Korea has worked closely with this faction in the
past, the two scenarios are not mutually contradictory.

There many similar signs of high-level preparations for change. For
example, last week the head of the UN and the Bank of Japan、among
others, called for the release and funding of “green energy technology.”
There are many actual concrete new energy technology deals in the works
that we are aware of but will not yet write about in order to prevent
sabotage.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hmmm first Toyota and then Hyundai....

it was the US autoworkers that need to sell more cars... ;)

I wonder if it is possible to find out who bought the most GM and Ford Stock when it was down to penny stock...

anyone care to bet it leads right back to the over government...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just bumped into this update...

Response by Paul Noel

for Pure Energy Systems News
I really do think that the situation is getting further and further out of hand.

By yesterday morning, the nature of the crude had changed, indicating that the spill was collapsing the rock structures. How much I cannot say. If it is collapsing the rock structures, the least that can be said is that the rock is fragmenting and blowing up the tube with the oil. With that going on you have a high pressure abrasive sand blaster working on the kinks in the pipe eroding it causing the very real risk of increasing the leaks.

More than that is the very real risk of causing the casing to become unstable and literally blowing it up the well bringing the hole to totally open condition. Another risk arises because according to reports the crew was cementing the exterior of the casing when this happens. As a result, the well, if this was not properly completed, could begin to blow outside the casing. Another possible scenario is a sea floor collapse. If that happens Katie bar the door.

Possible Fix

I do not see any good possibilities from humans further fracturing the rock particularly at higher levels. That is the cap rock that is holding the deposit together.

I do see a possible use of explosives for favorable outcome. If a properly sized charge were applied in a shaped fashion around the drill pipe at some distance from it say 5 feet or so it is entirely possible that an explosive charge could pinch the pipe off similar to a hydraulic clamp. The resulting situation would vastly reduce the spill. Once you clamped off the pipe much more substantially say down to 1 foot or less opening the resulting pipe could be charge cut above the location and a tapered pipe fitted to it to collect any leaking oil. The end result would be to contain the spill and dramatically control any leaks because drill mud could then be entered into the pipe fitted to the exterior. In the end, the pipe could be controlled that way. The size of a charge to do this would be a few pounds not megatons.

A nuclear detonation carries the real risk of giving us the full doomsday scenario on this well. I just don't like doing that. There is no coming back from the brink when you do that one. If it works, which I see as unlikely, great. If it doesn't work, there is now a maybe a hole 1/4 mile across leaking oil. That looks worse than any possible outcomes otherwise.

Oil Deposit Capacity

The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. In published reports, BP estimated a blow out could reach near 200,000 Barrels per day (165,000) They may have estimated a flow rate on a 5 foot pipe. The deposit is well able to surpass this.

The oil industry has knowledge of the deposit more than they admit. The deposit is 100 miles off shore. They are drilling into the edge of the deposit to leak it down gently to be able to produce from the deposit. The deposit is so large that while I have never heard exact numbers it was described to me to be either the largest or the second largest oil deposit ever found. It is mostly a natural gas deposit. That is another reason not to blast too willy nilly there. The natural gas that could be released is really way beyond the oil in quantity. It is like 10,000 times the oil in the deposit.

It is this deposit that has me reminding people of what the Shell geologist told me about the deposit. This was the quote, "Energy shortage..., Hell! We are afraid of running out of air to burn." The deposit is very large. It covers an area off shore something like 25,000 square miles. Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. This is a really massive deposit. Punching holes in the deposit is a really scary event as we are now seeing.

Rig and Pipe Info

The pipe is a fairly rigid pipe and sticks up out of the Blow out prevention device for some distance before it bends over and kinks off. The distance is not long but is enough to do what I suggested. Explosive forming of metals is a standard technology and under water it is easier. The charge focuses very predictably.

Imaging a long straw that is 1 mile long and has kinked over in several locations. This is about what you have. I have seen the submarine photos from early on. Just a really big straw. It has about a 1.5 or 2 foot diameter drill pipe in the center with about a 10 inch hole down the center. I am not exactly sure on the drill pipe size. The casing here is very thick steel. It has to handle massive pressures.

The rig is quite some distance away from the well. It may be a 1/4 mile or more away. It sort of bent over and then kinked the pipe as it went down.

I guess the size here sort of bends the imagination. This rig has a deck area of about 3 to 4 acres. It had a crew quarters on board that had about 120 people in it. (Imagine a big hotel here.) The hotel on the rig was about 4 stories high. You just cannot imagine until you see these rigs how big they are. If you want to see one go to Mobile Bay. Gulf High Island 2 and other rigs in the area can be seen clearly for 90 miles from Pensacola Florida. The towers go up 1100 feet. You can take the ferry right between two rigs if you go from Fort Morgan to Dauphin Island. There is no comparison to these rig anywhere in the world. They are the biggest ever built bar none.

Controls That Should Have Been In Place

By the way, I am not against drilling it, I am just against doing so without proper controls.

1. The rig that was drilling was not a US Flagged rig. That means US Inspectors were not allowed on board the rig to inspect it. As a matter of National Security under the GATT the USA has a right to demand US Only in various technology. The USA should never allow a foreign flag vessel to drill for oil in the US Economic Zone (200 mile limit).
2. Acoustic automated shut of devices should be required.
3. I think US Federal Inspectors should have to be resident on and inspecting rigs like this 24/7.
4. I think that the drilling should be required to do some smaller holes that deliberately miss the main deposit that test the structure before main drilling operations happen.
5. Careful procedures should be in place to set up wells before they hit the main deposit. The well casing should have to be inserted well before the drill hits the deposit and it should have to be cemented in at least 2 weeks prior to finishing the hole down to the oil or gas. This is to give the cement time to set. The casing should have ridging to make this cement have a tight wedged grip on the miles of rock around it. This is required because the lift pressure on a pipe in this case could easily reach 20 million pounds of lift. This is an insane amount of up pressure. Even at 70,000 psi it would lift about 140 million pounds. (almost 64,000 long tons!)

Haste from Economic Pressure

I suspect that the series of disasters we have seen in mines around the world and in the USA regards coal and oil are the product of pushing the crews and developments too fast due to the high economic pressures. This happened the last time (Sago and others) when the economic pressure started rising.

The economic pressures on the energy prices are stunning. Everyone is trying to keep their economy going. You can measure the economic output of a nation directly with the energy consumption day to day. The USA dropped its energy consumption in the current downturn (depression) by about 24%. It is now rising again. We are about 19% down and rising. The current situation is that the developments in oil/gas and coal are not keeping pace with what is going to be the demand shortly. They cannot even hope to meet the demand.

This is why I said that Alternative Energy is the only hope.

They can push the pedal to the metal (figuratively speaking) and there is not going to be a speed up much. Since human demand is going to force increases in supply towards 3 times the current level in less than 30 years, we are looking at a big hole with no hope of fixing it.

Air pollution world wide is reaching levels that are at the limits of the environment to take the demands. This increase in energy has to come from somewhere else.

Nuclear power doesn't have the potential. It turns out to run out of fuel in about 30 years. Worse yet solving the problem with nuclear doesn't do anything but boil away scarce fresh water supplies. All combustion does this. The only solutions are ones where the energy comes from somewhere else. Solar and Wind are good options. As you are also aware, the hard core alternatives are there in magnetic power etc. This has to come.

The alternatives to drilling US Waters for oil if we solve this with oil are to depend more and more on hostile powers for oil. Funding your enemies is insane. Drilling in US waters risks ever increasing threats of what we have going on right now.

The collapse of rock structures is even more scary. Mexico has one entire state that is being held up by nitrogen injection wells that would sink if that gas is released. This is not funny stuff. I know I get punched by the "know nothings" out there with political agenda, but I will risk it. If you will note the Oil and Gas people pretty much don't say anything against me. They know. I have been to some of their events and they actually like what I have to say. They cannot say it for fear of their jobs.

If one estimates the cost of a barrel of oil from the Middle East, the US Armed Forces cost added in would drive it to about $2000/barrel. If people paid this at the pump they would be demanding what I say with force so high you couldn't hear anything else. If you factor in the cost of spills and such domestic oil probably costs $500/barrel or more. This is just insane.
# # #
Paul Noel, 52, works as Software Engineer (as Contractor) for the US Army at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. He has a vast experience base including education across a wide area of technical skills and sciences. He supplies technical expertise in all areas required for new products development associated with the US Army office he works in. He supplies extensive expertise in understanding the Oil and Gas industry as well.

Born in Lynnwood Washington, he came to Huntsville Alabama, when his father moved to be part of NASA’s effort to put men on the moon. Neal Armstrong may have gotten the ride, but his father’s computers did the driving.

viking

[Rocky_Shorz]

LAS VEGAS, NEVADA--(Marketwire - May 2, 2010) - www.EnergyStockAlerts.com is a premier source for microcap and blue chip research and commentary.

The scale and carnage of BP's recent oil spill disaster continues to grow on a daily basis. The Wall Street Journal, citing industry experts, on Friday estimated the size of the continuing oil leak at 25,000 barrels a day (up from the U.S. government's Thursday estimate of 5,000 barrels a day). BP shares have fallen 12% since the disaster.

The accident has forced President Barack Obama to put on hold politically sensitive plans to expand offshore U.S. oil drilling. In March, President Obama unveiled plans for a limited expansion, in part to try to win Republican support for climate change legislation. The White House announced Saturday morning the President will travel to the gulf coast today to get an update on efforts to contain the massive spill.

Yesterday news reports that several banks (including Goldman Sachs, GS and Citigroup, C), recommended buying BP shares. They argue investors are over reacting since the April 20 explosion.

Yesterday oil giant BP (BP) released news that it has tested the dispersants (manufactured by Nalco Holding Co. (HAL)), on Friday night and authorized it's use on a larger scale. BP also added, it is looking for additional suppliers to begin manufacturing the material in mass quantities.

Investors should note that shares of companies that provided services or operated the sunken Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, including Halliburton (HAL) fell sharply as worries deepened about liability from spill.

so while they are Short against these companies which is forcing a drop in value they are recommending investors buy?

sounds like another conflict of interest...

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Rothschilds operate out of an area in the heart of London, England, the financial district, which is known as 'The City', or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their main offices here, along with branch offices for 385 foreign banks, including 70 from the United States. It is here that you will find the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping contracts), Fleet Street (home of publishing and newspaper interests), the London Commodity Exchange (to trade coffee, rubber, sugar and wool), and the London Metal Exchange. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.


Positioned on the north bank of the Thames River, covering an area of 677 acres or one square mile (known as the "wealthiest square mile on earth"), it has enjoyed special rights and privileges that enabled them to achieve a certain level of independence since 1191. In 1215, its citizens received a Charter from King John, granting them the right to annually elect a mayor (known as the Lord Mayor), a tradition that continues today.

Des Griffin, in his book Descent into Slavery, described 'The City' as a sovereign state (much like the Vatican), and that since the establishment of the privately owned Bank of England in 1694, this financial center has actually become the last word in England's national affairs. He contends that the country is run by powers in 'the City' and that the throne, the prime minister, and parliament are simply fronts for the real power. E. C. Knuth, in his book Empire of the City, suggests that when the queen enters 'The City,' she is subservient to the Lord Mayor (under him, is a committee of 12-14 men, known as 'The Crown'), because this privately-owned corporation is not subject to the Queen, or the Parliament. The Rothschilds have traditionally chosen the Lord mayor since 1820.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=18239


so the question is, if these attacks were directed from here, what can be done about it?

[MargueriteBee]

Here is what I want, join me if you like.

-O- Hole

-=- Sealing

--- Sealed

Keep the envisioning, only need a few hundred to do this - thousands would be better millions would ensure it. "The hole is closing up. The hole is sealed"

John..


Yeah and I can hear it shut with a sound thud.:cool:

[Anchor]

Yeah and I can hear it shut with a sound thud.

Sorry I cant tell if that was sarcastic or not :)

Eitherway, thanks for even reading my post - I hope some morsel of its intent was infectious enough to help.


One thing I love about living in the middle of nowhere is I can go outside and cuss like a sailor, really loud, and no one hears or cares. I do it to!

I too spend time in the middle of nowhere and it is becoming a sanctuary that I miss when I am not there.

John..

John..

[MargueriteBee]

"On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen. "


4+20+20+10=54 5+4=9
4+22+20+10=56 5+6=11 9-11

No not sarcastic. I mean it.

[Myra]

Margaurite, on that note about what happened here, I would not think North Korea, I would think Mossad.

[Anchor]

On another forum I wrote:


Our ministry is vibrational in nature and will radiate out and gather strength. You can be completely sure that the effects of one person (yourself) will be magnified many times among our incarnate and discarnate friends.

The challenge this time is pretty big - because there are going to be the dark forces trying the opposite with thier tired 3D STS tactics they will fail.

When you read the reports of how bad it is - that is part of thier armoury. Dont react with any fear, negativity and sadness, especially not fear.Instead use that energy and turn it back with love.

I am sure we can ameliorate the effects, if not completely stop them and even reverse them if enough of us do this concertedly.

I resolve to do this at least once per day until the problem is solved.

This is IT.

Stake in the sand time.

John..


-O- Closing
-=- Closed
--- Sealed .... for the highest and best good of all, make it so.

I am also reading about global initiatives like this one who also aim to help in a similar way http://www.glcoherence.org/

No time to loose here.

John..

[Rocky_Shorz]

well what we have seen over the past few years is rather amazing...

We have watched the carefully laid timelines bend into new realities...

Obama was not in their plans...

McCain and Palin were meant to be in place when they launched this false flag attack...

I was reading a statement from one of the military leaders of North Korea who was asked if they attacked the oil platform and his answer was do you think we're nuts?

When the report was dropped on Obama's desk and they expected him to immediately react to an attack from north Korea, he did what they weren't expecting, he pushed it aside and didn't allow it to go public because he smart enough to know something wasn't right... And he sent troops out to cover the remaining platforms, a second one is now leaking...

The veils of deception have come down, truths are being revealed one after another and not allowing the plans of a handful of lunatics to happen...

This is the future of this planet, we aren't a bunch of cavemen that can be fooled by a smooth talking reporter any longer, information is transmitted instantly around the world...

This disaster has affected hundreds of thousands of people's lives and I'm hoping Obama is getting to the bottom of it and pushes for what might end up being a massive Genocide trial if this turns into a tragic event that kills our oceans and our planet...

Someone did this to try and trigger world war III and didn't have enough brains to realize the terrible consequences of their actions

The pressure is slowly ripping the hole open wider by the hour so more and more is being released... There is no turning it back... There is no valve to shut off...

We need to pray for some massive boulder inside of the cavern to get sucked up to block the flow...


all of you visualize it...

make it so...

[lightblue]

Our ministry is vibrational in nature and will radiate out and gather strength. You can be completely sure that the effects of one person (yourself) will be magnified many times among our incarnate and discarnate friends.

The challenge this time is pretty big - because there are going to be the dark forces trying the opposite with thier tired 3D STS tactics they will fail.

When you read the reports of how bad it is - that is part of thier armoury. Dont react with any fear, negativity and sadness, especially not fear.Instead use that energy and turn it back with love.

I am sure we can ameliorate the effects, if not completely stop them and even reverse them if enough of us do this concertedly.

I resolve to do this at least once per day until the problem is solved.

This is IT.

Stake in the sand time.

John..


-O- Closing
-=- Closed
--- Sealed .... for the highest and best good of all, make it so.
I am also reading about global initiatives like this one who also aim to help in a similar way http://www.glcoherence.org/

No time to loose here.

John..


i'd like this to be AV2 mission statement.

we are on the same page john, thanks ..i'd post this all over the place..
by the way, i've been with global coherence for about a year now..lock in room a great tool..i feel we are past right and/or wrong ..we'd better use our power...

bestest l :yu:

[Swami]

AGE Refinery, Explosion and Fire in San Antonio, Texas


San Antonio, Texas- A large fire is burning at an AGE Refinery, in San Antonio, Texas reports said.

People on the ground in San Antonio said that an 18-wheeler blew up at the oil refinery.

The explosion could be heard across the city, reports said.

The AGE Refinery truck explosion and fire happened shortly before 11.30am local time on San Antonio’s south east si


http://newsolio.com/age-refinery-san-antonio-explosion,9801

Wtf is going on.....?

[SpoonMan]

This whole thing is heartbreaking. And the timing is unbelievable...

I believe we should prepare for things to go south pretty quickly. Just the economic reaction that will happen after we realize how badly we have destroyed a major food supply is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Anchor]

Observe it - yes

Contemplate it - yes

Fear it - no!

Negative reactions are going to impact our abilities to deal with this - just what they want. The ground crew here must be beacons of calm any time when the sh*t hits the fan, and be ready to extend that calm to other people so affected.

[SpoonMan]

Observe it - yes

Contemplate it - yes

Fear it - no!

Negative reactions are going to impact our abilities to deal with this - just what they want. The ground crew here must be beacons of calm any time when the sh*t hits the fan, and be ready to extend that calm to other people so affected.

It is hard to be positive about these types of situations, but you are right; negativity will not help. On the bright side this may be a needed dagger to big oil. Hopefully from this tragic situation people can realize how horrible it is to continue with fossil fuels. We dont need them, the technology exists to move past such things.

[Swanny]

Yea where is your GFL now that they are really needed???

Thanks to who ever gave me bad rep for this post.
I notice you are to cowardly to leave your name with your post.
You just said "Pointless, baiting and argumentative"
:rolleyes:

Maybe you could explain to me why my post is Pointless, baiting and argumentative???
Maybe you can explain where the gfl are and why they aren't looking after the planet and are letting this **** happen??

[lilac]

Slick Operator: The BP I've Known Too Well

Wednesday 05 May 2010

by: Greg Palast, t r u t h o u t | News Analysis

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I've seen this movie before. In 1989, I was a fraud investigator hired to dig into the cause of the Exxon Valdez disaster. Despite Exxon's name on that boat, I found the party most to blame for the destruction was ... British Petroleum (BP).

That's important to know, because the way BP caused devastation in Alaska is exactly the way BP is now sliming the entire Gulf Coast.

Tankers run aground, wells blow out, pipes burst. It shouldn't happen, but it does. And when it does, the name of the game is containment. Both in Alaska, when the Exxon Valdez grounded, and in the Gulf last week, when the Deepwater Horizon platform blew, it was British Petroleum that was charged with carrying out the Oil Spill Response Plans (OSRP), which the company itself drafted and filed with the government.

What's so insane, when I look over that sickening slick moving toward the Delta, is that containing spilled oil is really quite simple and easy. And from my investigation, BP has figured out a very low-cost way to prepare for this task: BP lies. BP prevaricates, BP fabricates and BP obfuscates.

That's because responding to a spill may be easy and simple, but not at all cheap. And BP is cheap. Deadly cheap.

To contain a spill, the main thing you need is a lot of rubber, long skirts of it called a "boom." Quickly surround a spill, leak or burst, then pump it out into skimmers, or disperse it, sink it or burn it. Simple.

But there's one thing about the rubber skirts: you've got to have lots of them at the ready, with crews on standby in helicopters and on containment barges ready to roll. They have to be in place round the clock, all the time, just like a fire department, even when all is operating A-O.K. Because rapid response is the key. In Alaska, that was BP's job, as principal owner of the pipeline consortium Alyeska. It is, as well, BP's job in the Gulf, as principal lessee of the deepwater oil concession.

Before the Exxon Valdez grounding, BP's Alyeska group claimed it had these full-time, oil spill response crews. Alyeska had hired Alaskan natives, trained them to drop from helicopters into the freezing water and set booms in case of emergency. Alyeska also certified in writing that a containment barge with equipment was within five hours sailing of any point in the Prince William Sound. Alyeska also told the state and federal government it had plenty of boom and equipment cached on Bligh Island.

But it was all a lie. On that March night in 1989 when the Exxon Valdez hit Bligh Reef in the Prince William Sound, the BP group had, in fact, not a lick of boom there. And Alyeska had fired the natives who had manned the full-time response teams, replacing them with phantom crews, lists of untrained employees with no idea how to control a spill. And that containment barge at the ready was, in fact, laid up in a drydock in Cordova, locked under ice, 12 hours away.

As a result, the oil from the Exxon Valdez, which could have and should have been contained around the ship, spread out in a sludge tide that wrecked 1,200 miles of shoreline.

And here we go again. Valdez goes Cajun.

BP's CEO Tony Hayward reportedly asked, "What the hell did we do to deserve this?"

It's what you didn't do, Mr. Hayward. Where was BP's containment barge and response crew? Why was the containment boom laid so damn late, too late and too little? Why is it that the US Navy is hauling in 12 miles of rubber boom and fielding seven skimmers, instead of BP?

Last year, CEO Hayward boasted that, despite increased oil production in exotic deep waters, he had cut BP's costs by an extra one billion dollars a year. Now we know how he did it.

As chance would have it, I was meeting last week with Louisiana lawyer Daniel Becnel Jr. when word came in of the platform explosion. Daniel represents oil workers on those platforms; now, he'll represent their bereaved families. The Coast Guard called him. They had found the emergency evacuation capsule floating in the sea and were afraid to open it and disturb the cooked bodies.

I wonder if BP painted the capsule green, like they paint their gas stations.

Becnel, yesterday by phone from his office from the town of Reserve, Louisiana, said the spill response crews were told they weren't needed because the company had already sealed the well. Like everything else from BP mouthpieces, it was a lie.

In the end, this is bigger than BP and its policy of cheaping out and skiving the rules. This is about the anti-regulatory mania, which has infected the American body politic. While the tea baggers are simply its extreme expression, US politicians of all stripes love to attack "the little bureaucrat with the fat rule book." It began with Ronald Reagan and was promoted, most vociferously, by Bill Clinton and the head of Clinton's deregulation committee, one Al Gore.

Americans want government off our backs ... that is, until a folding crib crushes the skull of our baby, Toyota accelerators speed us to our death, banks blow our savings on gambling sprees and crude oil smothers the Mississippi.

Then, suddenly, it's, "Where was hell was the government? Why didn't the government do something to stop it?"

The answer is because government took you at your word they should get out of the way of business, that business could be trusted to police itself. It was only last month that BP, lobbying for new deepwater drilling, testified to Congress that additional equipment and inspection wasn't needed.

You should meet some of these little bureaucrats with the fat rule books. Like Dan Lawn, the inspector from the Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation, who warned and warned and warned, before the Exxon Valdez grounding, that BP and Alyeska were courting disaster in their arrogant disregard of the rule book. In 2006, I printed his latest warnings about BP's culture of negligence. When the choice is between Lawn's rule book and a bag of tea, Lawn's my man.

This just in: Becnel tells me that one of the platform workers has informed him that the BP well was apparently deeper than the 18,000 feet depth reported. BP failed to communicate that additional depth to Halliburton crews, who, therefore, poured in too small a cement cap for the additional pressure caused by the extra depth. So, it blew.

Why didn't Halliburton check? "Gross negligence on everyone's part," said Becnel. Negligence driven by penny-pinching, bottom-line squeezing. BP says its worker is lying. Someone's lying here, man on the platform or the company that has practiced prevarication from Alaska to Louisiana.

[Richard]

May 4
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NASA's Aqua satellite flew over the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday, May 4, at 18:50 UTC, or 2:50 p.m. EDT. The Moderate Imaging Spectroradiometer, or MODIS, instrument that flies aboard NASA's Aqua satellite captured this visible-light image. The bulk of the spill appears as a dull gray area southeast of the Mississippi Delta

May 5th
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Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) astronaut Soichi Noguchi, Expedition 23 flight engineer, photographed the tail end of the Mississippi Delta showing the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico on May 4, 2010. Part of the river delta and nearby Louisiana coast appear dark in the sunglint. This phenomenon is caused by sunlight reflecting off the water surface, in a mirror-like manner, directly back towards the astronaut observer onboard the International Space Station (ISS). The sunglint improves the identification of the oil spill which is creating a different water texture (and therefore a contrast) between the smooth and rougher water of the reflective ocean surface. Other features which cause a change in surface roughness that can be seen in sunglint are wind gusts, naturally occurring oils that will be gathered by and take the form of water currents or wave patterns, and less windy areas behind islands.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so the question is, if these attacks were directed from here, what can be done about it?

Dow Plunges 1000 points in 15 minutes...

shot across the bow?

[Lucrum]

In any case, this disaster should skyrocket oilprices...but from what I can see the oilprice has been on a steady decline for several days.

Am I missing something here or is that just plain wierd?

[Swanny]

I'm sure it will go up soon. Wouldn't surprise me if they did this to push up the price of oil.

[Gita]

Quote

Since Spill, Feds Have Given 27 Waivers to Oil Companies in Gulf

'Since the Deepwater Horizon oil drilling rig exploded on April 20, the Obama administration has granted oil and gas companies at least 27 exemptions from doing in-depth environmental studies of oil exploration and production in the Gulf of Mexico.

The waivers were granted despite President Barack Obama’s vow that his administration would launch a “relentless response effort” to stop the leak and prevent more damage to the gulf. One of them was dated Friday — the day after Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said he was temporarily halting offshore drilling.'

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/07/93761/despite-spill-feds-still-giving.html

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[Gita]

double post! :rolleyes:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Crews dealt setback in placing containment dome in Gulf oil spill... :-(

Biloxi, Mississippi (CNN) -- The effort to place a massive containment dome over a gushing underwater wellhead in the Gulf of Mexico was dealt a setback when a large volume of hydrates -- icelike crystals that form when gas combines with water -- accumulated inside the vessel, a BP official said Saturday.

The dome was moved off to the side of the wellhead and is resting on the seabed while crews work to overcome the challenge, a process expected to take at least two days, BP's chief operations officer Doug Suttles said.

Suttles declined to call it a failed operation but said "What we attempted to do last night didn't work."

Suttles said the gas hydrates are lighter than water and, as a result, made the dome buoyant. The crystals also blocked the top of the dome, which would prevent oil from being funneled up to a drill ship.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/08/gulf.oil.spill/?hpt=T1

viking

[Gita]

Quote

Is Gulf Oil Rig Disaster Far Worse Than We're Being Told?

'Reports about the massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill have been largely underestimated, according to commentators, including Paul Noel, a Software Engineer for the U.S. Army at Redstone Arsenal in Alabama. He believes that the pocket of oil that's been hit is so powerful and under so much pressure that it may be virtually impossible to contain it. And Noel is not the only person questioning the scope of this disaster.

A recent story from the Christian Science Monitor (CSM) reports that many independent scientists believe the leak is spewing far more than the 5,000 barrels, or 210,000 gallons, per day being reported by most media sources. They believe the leak could be discharging up to 25,000 barrels (more than one million gallons) of crude oil a day right now.'

http://www.naturalnews.com/028749_Gulf_of_Mexico_oil_spill.html

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[lindabaker]

Can't begin to wrap my mind and senses around this mess. I was in Gulf Shores, Alabama just weeks ago. I can hardly use the keyboard I am so disheartened right now. The biodiversity is so vast and beautiful, that you just have to see it with your own eyes. All will be well, eventually. Who? Who would have told investors to bet that the rig was going to come down? Who would have let this happen or cause it to happen? This is our planet. No more! Gaia is bleeding, but it will not stop the birth of the Phoenix. The new earth is manifesting and the cries of the newborn will be heard at any moment. So, time to refuse to see the timeline go any further down that terrible and predictable road. We're down to it now, the final battle. This is our planet. We birth in strength the new earth, the one we have been destined to inherit. We'll fix her, no problem. No more mining. It is our planet.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well it may not have affected oil prices for the fact this isn't production we were using yet...

but the obvious thing that will be affected is sea food...

today, I made a feast for Mother's Day $6.95 King Crab legs' so I bought a mountain of them for the family because with the gulf being destroyed for fishing it will spike the prices of seafood around the globe, most people have no idea how much comes from this area.

red Lobster had been getting 90% from this area, now they along with all the other major chains will be scrambling to fill their needs...

My guess is double to triple the price of seafood within a month or two...

[Solphilos]

Why is it that no-one is mentioning the methane issue? There really is a media blackout on this thing after all.

Seafood availability and oil prices should be the very least of our concerns; this disaster has the potential to cause mass death and could even usher in a new ice age should the gulf stream be affected.
We are talking about a potential explosion the likes of the mankind has ever seen, the vast amount of greenhouse gasses being released drastically warming our atmosphere (true global warming), actual water levels rising due to melting ice caps (unless the ice age thing occurs instead:p).
Also, remember that vast majority of the worlds oxygen comes from phytoplankton that live in the ocean; if this thing cannot be capped, the seas of the entire planet could be effected.

In the coastal areas of the gulf of Mexico, air quality may quickly become toxic, the amassing bodies of dead marine animals washing up on the shore can become festering habitats for disease, and people may start moving in mass away from the coastlines.

This is much more serious than people seem to realize. But I would advise all not to fear, as it seems that things are going according to plan, and the worlds infrastructure may be coming to its knees shortly. It must be out with the old, if we are to have the in with the new.

[Rocky_Shorz]

one thing I don't understand that one of our whistleblowers might be able to answer is.

They have known about this well since 1988, why didn't they use one of the tunnel boring machine to drill right to the edge, pull the equipment back and build the facility that could handle the 6-7,000 PSI pressure and set off the charges to let it start flowing?

Seems like a no brainer that the technologies are there to handle this situation and have made this happen smoothly. why risk destroying the planet by having a bunch of rock headed oil men make a decision of such importance?

[Rocky_Shorz]

one more thing I caught reading between the lines listening to the one of the heads of BP

The containment dome was freezing up and the crystals would stop the flow, they could contain it with the dome by securing it to the bottom of the ocean and letting it freeze...

But that option was brushed aside, they haven't spent this much time and money to give up on the oil they can pull from this well...

Why not get the equipment down to super cool it freezing a plug on the well until a new operation is put together that can really handle it?

[lilac]

Published by Eric Francis under Daily Astrology:

Good morning,
http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/uxo-dump-map.png

We interrupt this oil spill:
http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/2010/05/04/explosives-dumps-gulf-of-mexico-oil-spilll/

I am releasing today’s lead article from Planet Waves Astrology News to the public.

It’s called Tales from Topographic Oceans, and it deals with how BP was drilling for oil in the midst of dumping grounds for unexploded ordnance: old bombs from forgotten wars. We’ve been developing this article all week — and these are our findings.

In the article, I describe how we figured this out and fleshed out the additional facts, while on the way to casting the chart for the incident (which is covered in the article as well). Instead of using a shore point, I was searching maps for the latitude and longitude out in the Gulf, which we finally located using a government database.

If I may ask your help with this: please send this article to as many people as you can. You can send this blog, or the direct URL:

http://planetwavesweekly.com/resources/bp-oil-spill-unexploded-ordnance.html

or a shortened URL:

http://snipurl.com/bp-minefield

If you post it to your blog, please add a short synopsis. While understanding one potential cause of this event will not stop the flow of oil into the Gulf, it may well prevent a similar disaster in the future, since basically the entire Gulf of Mexico is potentially an ordnance dump. The original documents are contained in the article.


Yours & truly,

Eric Francis

[Swami]

Nuke the oil spill - Could nuclear bomb be answer for huge leaks as at US Gulf coast


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2FJWYZ1T-0

[Sunny d]

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09/gulf.oil/index.html

its getting weirder and weirder

[pyrangello]

You know I was in the US air force 20 years ago, I worked in fuels and the systems, for the life of me I cannot understand why there isn't a major effort by our govn't to get this contained, Some days I just sit back and wonder why do we even deserve such a beautiful planet when the ones in charge abuse her to no end. If the dome froze why not use a heat tape source to keep it from freezing while it is set in place, plastic coat the dome, bring some of the most briliant minds together to figure out a solution. Where is that conference ??? God bless our sea life as they're going to need all the help they can get.

[stardustaquarion]

ROBERT, La., May 9 (Reuters) - BP Plc engineers desperately explored options on Sunday to control oil gushing from a ruptured well deep under the Gulf of Mexico after a setback with a huge undersea containment dome fueled fears of a prolonged and growing environmental disaster.

The spill is spreading west, further from Florida but toward the important shipping channels and rich seafood areas of the Louisiana shoreline, where fishing, shrimping and oyster harvesting bans have been widened.

A state of emergency was declared in Lafourche Parish, Louisiana, with sheen, the leading edge of the oil slick, forecast to come ashore near Port Fourchon within days.

BP (BP.L) is exploring several new options to control the spill after a buildup of crystallized gas in the dome forced engineers to delay efforts to place a massive four-story containment chamber over the rupture on Saturday.

"We're gathering some data to help us with two things. One is another way to do containment, the second is other ways to actually stop the flow," BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles told Reuters in Venice, Louisiana.

BP was also exploring ways to overcome the containment dome's problem with gas hydrates -- slushy methane gas that would block the oil from being siphoned up to a waiting ship.

"People are working around the clock at BP headquarters," U.S. Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen told National Public Radio. But conducting operations at depths of one mile (1.6 km) below the surface was complicating the challenge.

"We're actually dealing with a source that doesn't have human access," Allen said.

At least 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons/795,000 litres) of oil a day have been gushing unchecked into the Gulf since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded on April 20, rupturing the well and killing 11 crew members.

On Dauphin Island, Alabama, a barrier island and beach resort, sunbathers found tar balls along a short stretch of beach. Experts were testing the tar to determine if it came from the Gulf spill.

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ECOLOGICAL DISASTER

The spill, which could become the worst in U.S. history, threatens economic and ecological disaster on Gulf Coast tourist beaches, wildlife refuges and fishing grounds. It has forced President Barack Obama to rethink plans to open more waters to drilling.

The disaster could slow the exploration and development of offshore oil projects worldwide, the head of the International Energy Agency warned.

"The future potential is offshore in deeper water and in the Arctic, so if offshore investment is going to be slowed down, that is a concern," IEA Executive Director Nobuo Tanaka told Reuters. [ID:nnWEA1101]

BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward told London's Sunday Telegraph it could be weeks or months before the spill is brought under control. He said the company could spend $10 million a day on clean-up efforts. [ID:nLDE64807W]

BP may next try to plug the damaged blowout preventer on the underwater well by pumping debris into it at high pressure, a technique called a "junk shot," or attaching a new preventer on top of it.

"They are actually going to take a bunch of debris -- some shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up to stop the leak," Allen told CBS News. BP also is drilling a relief well to halt the leak but that could take three months.

Hundreds of boats deployed protective booms and used dispersants to break up the oil again on Sunday. Crews have laid more than 900,000 feet (270,000 metres) of boom and spread 290,000 gallons (1.1 million litres) of chemical dispersant.

Latest government forecasts show possible effects of the spill moving further west, toward Texas.

"With continued winds from the east, potential oil contacts could reach as far west as Point Au Fer Island by Wednesday," the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said.

Sheen is about eight miles off the coast of Port Fourchon, with heavy oil still some 28 miles offshore, said Charlotte Randolph, president of Lafourche Parish. "We're keeping a very close watch, deploying boom and closing some beaches," she said.

SANDBAGS

Truckloads of sand are being delivered to Port Fourchon to fill large sandbags, which will be dropped by National Guard helicopters in five areas along the coast.

Chett Chiasson, executive director of the Greater Lafourche Port Commission, said access to the port is a major concern.

"If necessary, our current strategy is to place boom along Belle Pass in Bayou Lafourche to create a 'decontamination station' for ingress and egress through the port," he said.

In Alabama, BP-contracted workers in rubber boots and gloves laid down clusters of oil-absorbing synthetic fibers called pom-poms, erected storm fencing along the Dauphin Island beach and collected samples of the tar and water for testing.

Gary Bratt, owner of Chaise N' Rays Rentals, which rents recreational equipment on Dauphin Island, said the threat of the spill reaching shore was ruining his business. "Our business is off 70 percent at this point," with potential vacationers canceling "right and left," he said.

Gulf Coast politicians echoed the public's fears.

"If this gusher continues for several months, it's going to cover up the Gulf Coast and it's going to get down into the Loop Current and that's going to take it down into the Florida Keys and up the east coast of Florida," Florida Democratic Senator Bill Nelson told CNN.

"You're talking about massive economic loss to our tourism, our beaches, our fisheries, very possibly disruption of our military testing and training which is in the Gulf of Mexico."

Crews labored to cordon off the entrance to Alabama's Mobile Bay with a containment boom fence to try to safeguard America's ninth-largest seaport.

Ships arriving at Southwest Pass, the deepwater entrance to the Mississippi River and New Orleans will be inspected to determine if they need cleaning.

The spill's only major contact with the shoreline so far has been in the Chandeleur Islands off Louisiana, mostly a wildlife reserve. The next few days threatens wider contact.

Louisiana officials closed more waters to fishing and shrimp and oyster harvesting as the slick edged westward.

Shrimp harvesting is now banned from Freshwater Bayou on the central coast to Louisiana's border with Mississippi. Some oyster beds west of the Mississippi River also are shut.

Seafood is a $2.4 billion industry in Louisiana, which produces more than 30 percent of the seafood originating in the continental United States. (Additional reporting by Anna Driver in Houston; Tom Brown and Pascal Fletcher in Miami; Steve Gorman, Verna Gates and Kelli Dugan in Dauphin Island, Alabama; Eric Beech in Washington; Writing by John Whitesides and Ros Krasny; Editing by Chris Wilson)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0816351020100509

[Solphilos]

According to Oilprice.com, they are already making plans for evacuations of coastal cities. Of course I just happen to live in one of those places :popcorn:

http://oilprice.com/Environment/Oil-Spills/The-Cover-up-BP-s-Crude-Politics-and-the-Looming-Environmental-Mega-Disaster.html

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Emergency preparations in dealing with the expanding oil menace are now being made for cities and towns from Corpus Christi, Texas, to Houston, New Orleans, Gulfport, Mobile, Pensacola, Tampa-St.Petersburg-Clearwater, Sarasota-Bradenton, Naples, and Key West. Some 36 FEMA-funded contracts between cities, towns, and counties and emergency workers are due to be invoked within days, if not hours, according to WMR's FEMA sources.

There are plans to evacuate people with respiratory problems, especially those among the retired senior population along the west coast of Florida, before officials begin burning surface oil as it begins to near the coastline.

There is another major threat looming for inland towns and cities. With hurricane season in effect, there is a potential for ocean oil to be picked up by hurricane-driven rains and dropped into fresh water lakes and rivers, far from the ocean, thus adding to the pollution of water supplies and eco-systems.
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Fema eh? Wonder if any of those "camps" will see use this time around.

[stardustaquarion]

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This is so serious and it is rapidly becoming hopeless....

Still praying though

[Luke]

For your consideration:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47791000/gif/_47791601_oil_spills466.gif
From : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8664684.stm
Ixtoc 1 was Gulf too.

[Swanny]

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09/gulf.oil/index.html

its getting weirder and weirder

On the radio today they were saying they need to collect hair because it's the best thing to soak up oil with

[Solphilos]

On the radio today they were saying they need to collect hair because it's the best thing to soak up oil with

Just what we need; Oil, shredded tires, golf balls, and pubes all floating around in the gulf of mexico. Wow, you can't make this stuff up.:p

[Luke]

Just what we need; Oil, shredded tires, golf balls, and pubes all floating around in the gulf of mexico. Wow, you can't make this stuff up.:p
I call that organized spreading of insanity :P
... whirl people as much as you can, till they would know where is up and down and will call black white. Then point mob at some direction useful to your plans. Add sugar and stir slowly.

[SpoonMan]

For your consideration:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47791000/gif/_47791601_oil_spills466.gif
From : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8664684.stm
Ixtoc 1 was Gulf too.

10,000 tonnes is 20 million pounds. A litre of 10-30w oil weighs approx 2 pounds. If it is spilling 210,000 gallons/795,000 litres a day that is 1.6 million pounds or 800 tonnes a day. That graph has to be played way down.


*edited for MATH* (not my strong side)

[Gita]

Quote

Oil Spill Nets $270m for Transocean (http://aljazeera.com/news/articles/34/Oil-spill-nets-$270m-for-Transocean.html)

The firm that owns the leaking oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico has made a $270 million profit from insurance payouts, despite having caused a massive ecological disaster.

Transocean, the company contracted by BP to drill the well, brought the story to light in a conference call on Monday.

Transocean took out a $560 million insurance policy on its Deepwater Horizon rig, which was greater than the value of the rig itself.

The company has already received a cash payment of $401 million, with the rest due over the next few weeks.

The “accounting gain� arises because the compensation it will be receiving more than covers the $200 million that it has to pay to survivors and their families and for higher insurance costs.

Lamar McKay, the chairman of BP's US arm, Steve Newman, Transocean's chief executive, and managers of several other companies involved in the drilling are scheduled to testify in hearings in the US Congress later this week.

Experts believe the total cost of the clean-up and compensation will exceed $30 billion.

In a stock exchange filing, Newman said that BP and two smaller partners, Anadarko Petroleum and Mitsui of Japan, were contractually obliged to take “full responsibility for and defend, release and indemnify us from any loss, expense, claim, fine, penalty or liability for pollution or contamination�.

He added, “Our industry has a long history of contract sanctity and we expect BP to honor that.�

About 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons) of oil are still flowing into the sea every day.

BP had earlier said the leaking well in the Gulf of Mexico could be contained this week.

However, on Saturday the giant oil company failed to set up the steel dome which was to contain the oil flowing from the fissure.

BP now plans to place a smaller dome over the blown-out well, which could be in place within 72 hours, BP chief executive Tony Hayward told reporters at a press conference in Houston on Monday.

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[Lucrum]

10,000 tonnes is 20 million pounds. A litre of 10-30w oil weighs approx 2 pounds. If it is spilling 210,000 gallons/795,000 litres a day that is 1.6 million pounds or 800 tonnes a day. That graph has to be played way down.


*edited for MATH* (not my strong side)

Well, at least someone is presenting wrong numbers and false claims.
My first reaction to that comparison picture was: This can't be right?

Based on the numbers I have seen so far that comparison has wrong numbers *OR* the newspapers are blowing the leak out of proportions.

Normally the tabloids would have a field day to no end with this sort of accident...but it is barely mentioned in norwegian news, and when it is mentioned it's about the drama of the crew and not the severity of the oilspill itself.
Sometimes I wish I had the resources and knowledge to find out for myself...

[stardustaquarion]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/image_sliders/10/oil_spill/img/19_oil_spill_466_slider_may12.gif

[Swami]

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Revelation 16-3

3 The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a dead man, and every living thing in the sea died.

Psalm 78:44

44 He turned their rivers to blood; they could not drink from their streams.

[morguana]

stardustaquarian this made me feel really sick in my stomach http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1859-Mother-of-all-gushers-could-kill-Earth-s-oceans&p=17774&viewfull=1#post17774 (your vid clip)
its uncomprehendable the devistation on the wild life and our environment, is so sad

[Martin]

What ever exactly happened there still remains a myth to me. I am from Germany and all we are hearing here is very basic and more or the less information-free. All they told thusfar is that there was an explosion. Nobody seems to care what exploded and why. Are there any survivors or did the whole crew died? If there are any survivors why don't we see them interviewed?

When did Obama reacted the first time on the "accident"? Here in germany they reported his official response a week after the "explosion". Can anyone elobarate on this?


Martin

[stardustaquarion]

stardustaquarian this made me feel really sick in my stomach http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1859-Mother-of-all-gushers-could-kill-Earth-s-oceans&p=17774&viewfull=1#post17774 (your vid clip)
its uncomprehendable the devistation on the wild life and our environment, is so sad

It shocked me too, I am sending healing to the water and the creatures which is all that I can do appart from praying. I have a knot in my throat but keep on telling myself chin up, I am no help if I get depressed so keep going, chin up, keep going

Love

[Micjer]

Revelation 16-3


Psalm 78:44

I am with you Swami.

There is something biblical about this disaster. Part of the plan.

[kinsuemei2]

a man made oil slick is biblical? I have to disagree with respect, I feel that you need to give this planet a little more credit, life especially in the oceans is the greatest at adaptation, there are fish in the pacific islands that can live in water that is so hot in the geothermic funnels it should essentially boil them or kill them, life will always persevere however much we try to mess up the planet, I think the largest body of this planet, might get hurt, but it will not die, at least not in our lifetimes!
I believe the sun is life and the water is life, we need both to survive, and lets be honest our water is just as important as our fauna, if anything would yield an intervention, it would this.
Ben

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks Gita ... this is really bloody awful... we all need to get as many prayer warriors together and raise the concioiusness!!! As John has said ....Do it!!!!!

get going guys>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2919/fullwetlands.jpg

viking

http://img6.imageshack.us/i/fullwetlands.jpg/

[stardustaquarion]

Coast to coast interviews Peter Ward, a biologist, with regard to the impact of the oil spill

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the whole playlist http://www.youtube.com/user/SetYouFreee#p/c/A2568F6D25AEDE9E

[stardustaquarion]

he Risky Business of Mining Methane Hydrate

The potential rewards of releasing methane from gas hydrate fields must be balanced with the risks. And the risks are significant. Let's start first with challenges facing mining companies and their workers. Most methane hydrate deposits are located in seafloor sediments. That means drilling rigs must be able to reach down through more than 1,600 feet (500 meters) of water and then, because hydrates are generally located far underground, another several thousand feet before they can begin extraction. Hydrates also tend to form along the lower margins of continental slopes, where the seabed falls away from the relatively shallow shelf toward the abyss. The roughly sloping seafloor makes it difficult to run pipeline
Even if you can situate a rig safely, methane hydrate is unstable once it's removed from the high pressures and low temperatures of the deep sea. Methane begins to escape even as it's being transported to the surface. Unless there's a way to prevent this leakage of natural gas, extraction won't be efficient. It will be a bit like hauling up well water using a pail riddled with holes.

Believe it or not, this leakage may be the least of the worries. Many geologists suspect that gas hydrates play an important role in stabilizing the seafloor. Drilling in these oceanic deposits could destabilize the seabed, causing vast swaths of sediment to slide for miles down the continental slope. Evidence suggests that such underwater landslides have occurred in the past (see sidebar), with devastating consequences. The movement of so much sediment would certainly trigger massive tsunamis similar to those seen in the Indian Ocean tsunami of December 2004.

But perhaps the biggest concern is how methane hydrate mining could affect global warming. Scientists already know that hydrate deposits naturally release small amounts of methane. The gas works itself skyward -- either bubbling up through permafrost or ocean water -- until it's released into the atmosphere. Once methane is in the atmosphere, it becomes a greenhouse gas even more efficient than carbon dioxide at trapping solar radiation. Some experts fear that drilling in hydrate deposits could cause catastrophic releases of methane that would greatly accelerate global warming.

Does that make methane from hydrate fields off-limits? This is the question scientists from all over the world are trying to answer.


Moving Mountains

One of the largest landslides in history didn't occur on land, but underwater, just off the coast of Norway. It also didn't occur in recent history, but in the Holocene epoch, about 8,000 years ago. Known as the Storegga Submarine Landslide, the event caused massive amounts of sediments to slide about 497 miles (800 kilometers) down the continental slope. This in turn triggered a mega-tsunami, perhaps 82 feet (25 meters) high, that struck Norway and Scotland.

In 1998, Russian researchers discovered an unstable hydrate field near the site of the Storegga slide. Now scientists believe that a rapid decomposition of hydrates, related to temperature and pressure changes coming at the end of the last ice age, destabilized the sediments and caused the landslide.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/earth/green-technology/energy-production/frozen-fuel4.htm

[Swami]

I am with you Swami.

There is something biblical about this disaster. Part of the plan.

I think they changed the bible into a selffullfilling prophecy in Ceasars time. That why Jesus looks like Ceasar these days. So the bibles we read these days are about DISCLOSURE not about religion! Eat that one........ :cool:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=666

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=665

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=664

[stardustaquarion]

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[Robstar]

The Oceans will survive it us that will be gone.
So now come the armchair engineers who have no idea the magnitude and scope of engineering that this and many of our energy systems we have, pose.
Now we will call out to Obama and Al gore to fix this? Huh...
Everyone has responsibility in this!
Including yourself.
You are about to ride the waves (video above) on guess what? A petroleum made board (resin and fiberglass used to seal our boards - are petroleum based.)
When you hop in you V-8 Super Sport SUV to go to the beach then it is not your fault?
Look at yourself first, demand petroleum free materials.
Demand that your politicians respect the earth and stop using harmful energy!
Teach science and math above football and sports in your child's life.
There are five teams of (20) Oil rig engineers working 24 hours a day to try to fix this.
And countless other experts here in Houston alone working on this disaster.
You can pray all you want. Will it prevent oil from killing and polluting NO!
Will it make you feel better YES!
Remember this when this oil leak is history and you are using gasoline to go to the mall.
The earth is over 4.54 billion years and it will survive.
It is us who will perish.
So take responsibility!:mmph:

[bettye198]

I just wonder what kind of insult affected the ley lines and grid. We have more to be concerned with than just commerce and resorts and sea life. And my guess is that this is not the first time we have wondered about the dynamics with oil rigs on fire. How long ago was it that there were nonstop fires over oil rigs in the Middle East?

Oil + drilling. Bad idea. Oil is the lubricant for our tectonic plates. We are sucking the life out of that. Think of the synovial fluid that bathes our joints or the cerebrospinal fluid that bathes our brain and spinal cord.

I did some research on petroleum affecting insects, toads, reptiles. They found that it didn't take much to create a loss of locomotor ability, unusual abdominal contractions, dehydration and necrosis ( tissue death) within 24 hrs. In humans the symptoms could appear as early as in one hour. Petroleum crosses cell membranes and destroys. Precisely why I do not wear polyester material on my body ( made of petroleum) or use Vicks or any petroleum jelly. Read labels! So when will we finally get it that petroleum is not the answer for any fuel efficiency. Our cars are filthy and not efficient at all. In fact, our bodies are basically not efficient either with the amount of energy in and energy out. So why haven't we made free usable energy our mantra? I could say this is on the top of my list next to no GMO foods.

[Anchor]

It has occurred to me recently that the CURRENT magnitude of this disaster maybe being falsely misrepresented to enhance the fear and consternation that this has caused.

I don't doubt that it is bad, and it never should have happened, but it has. Now we deal with it. I recently spoke to some people that have been using thier powers of manifestation to stop the leak and there is a growing consensus that it has probably worked (time is not a factor here - so this might look like nonsense to you).

I don't know and I'd like to keep an open mind, but if it was stopped, do you think we would be told immediately?

If that were the case, then the manifestation efforts should move to keeping the seal in tact, and now restoring the waters to crystaline purity.

John..

[Gita]

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White House Aims to Use Deepwater Disaster to Win Votes for US Climate Bill

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20102/deepwater-horizon-oil-rig-006.jpg

'Senators are set to take a last run at producing a climate and energy law tomorrow, betting on the spectre of environmental disaster raised by the BP oil spill to build support for a comprehensive overhaul of America's energy strategy. But despite a strong push from the Obama administration, there are concerns the debate about the energy future could be lost in the wrangling about offshore oil drilling permits.

The official roll-out by Senators John Kerry and Joe Lieberman caps eight months of negotiations with political figures and industry executives aimed at getting broad support in Congress for shifting the economy away from coal and oil and reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Climate legislation passed by the US Senate could unblock a major obstacle which prevented agreement on a binding global deal at last year's Copenhagen summit.'

Read more: White House Aims to Use Deepwater Disaster to Win Votes for US Climate Bill (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/11/us-climate-bill-deepwater-disaster)


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Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

[PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH]

i hear that this may threaten the entire earth oceans if not stopped after 90 days. 1/3 of the earths oxygen is produced by the oceans. i remember pete peterson talking about the problem being a lack of oxygen on the planet obv not c02 overload. i think also there is a bit in revelation that speak sabout the ecosystem being damaged near the end. i agree with swanny where are THE GLF lol.. HELP ME ET HELP ME . what a load of pish..

[Gita]

This article by Washington Times is dated 18th March!

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EDITORIAL: Obama surrenders gulf oil to Moscow

The Obama administration is poised to ban offshore oil drilling on the outer continental shelf until 2012 or beyond. Meanwhile, Russia is making a bold strategic leap to begin drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico. While the United States attempts to shift gears to alternative fuels to battle the purported evils of carbon emissions, Russia will erect oil derricks off the Cuban coast.
Offshore oil production makes economic sense. It creates jobs and helps fulfill America's vast energy needs. It contributes to the gross domestic product and does not increase the trade deficit. Higher oil supply helps keep a lid on rising prices, and greater American production gives the United States more influence over the global market.

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Rest of article here. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to-moscow/)

[Gita]

Below is from this pdf file with some amazing pics. (http://files.ww.com/downloadsinprogress/007912c28672b87713576d214f563183/Horizon.pdf)

(Forum Link) (http://files.ww.com/files/67450.html)

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You may have heard the news in the last two days about the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig which caught fire, burned for two days, then sank in 5,000 ft of water in the Gulf of Mexico. There are still 11 men missing, and they are not expected to be found.

The rig belongs to Transocean, the world’s biggest offshore drilling contractor. The rig was originally contracted through the year 2013 to BP and was working on BP’s Macondo exploration well when the fire broke out. The rig costs about $500,000 per day to contract. The full drilling spread, with helicopters and support vessels and other services, will cost closer to $1,000,000 per day to operate in the course of drilling for oil and gas. The rig cost about $350,000,000 to build in 2001 and would cost at least double that to replace today.

The rig represents the cutting edge of drilling technology. It is a floating rig, capable of working in up to 10,000 ft water depth. The rig is not moored; It does not use anchors because it would be too costly and too heavy to suspend this mooring load from the floating structure. Rather, a triply-redundant computer system uses satellite positioning to control powerful thrusters that keep the rig on station within a few feet of its intended location, at all times. This is called Dynamic Positioning.

The rig had apparently just finished cementing steel casing in place at depths exceeding 18,000 ft. The next operation was to suspend the well so that the rig could move to its next drilling location, the idea being that a rig would return to this well later in order to complete the
work necessary to bring the well into production.

It is thought that somehow formation fluids – oil /gas – got into the wellbore and were undetected until it was too late to take action. With a floating drilling rig setup, because it moves with the waves, currents, and winds, all of the main pressure control equipment sits on the
seabed – the uppermost unmoving point in the well. This pressure control equipment – the Blowout Preventers, or ‘BOP’s” as they’re called, are controlled with redundant systems from the rig. In the event of a serious emergency, there are multiple Panic Buttons to hit, and even fail-safe Deadman systems that should be automatically engaged when something of this proportion breaks out. None of them were aparently activated, suggesting that the blowout was especially swift to escalate at the surface. The flames were visible up to about 35 miles away. Not the glow – the flames. They were 200 – 300 ft high.

All of this will be investigated and it will be some months before all of the particulars are known. For now, it is enough to say that this marvel of modern technology, which had been operating with an excellent safety record, has burned up and sunk taking souls with it.

The well still is apparently flowing oil, which is appearing at the surface as a slick. They have been working with remotely operated vehicles, or ROV’s which are essentially tethered miniature submarines with manipulator arms and other equipment that can perform work underwater while the operator sits on a vessel. These are what were used to explore the Titanic, among other things. Every floating rig has one on board and they are in constant use. In this case, they are deploying ROV’s from dedicated service vessels. They have been trying to close the well in using a specialized port on the BOP’s and a pumping arrangement on their ROV’s. They have been unsuccessful so far. Specialized pollution control vessels have been scrambled to start working the spill, skimming the oil up.

In the coming weeks they will move in at least one other rig to drill a fresh well that will intersect the blowing one at its pay zone. They will use technology that is capable of drilling from a floating rig, over 3 miles deep to an exact specific point in the earth – with a target radius of just a few feet plus or minus. Once they intersect their target, a heavy fluid will be pumped that exceeds the formation’s pressure, thus causing the flow to cease and rendering the well safe at last. It will take at least a couple of months to get this done, bringing all available technology to bear. It will be an ecological disaster if the well flows all of the while; Optimistically, it could bridge off downhole.

It’s a sad day when something like this happens to any rig, but even more so when it happens to something on the cutting edge of our capabilities. The photos that follow show the progression of events over the 36 hours from catching fire to sinking.

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[Gita]

Check NASA's Earth Observatory for updates from orbit. (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/event.php?id=43733)

May 12th
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/43000/43936/Louisiana_AMO_2010131_lrg.jpg

May 11th
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/43000/43936/Louisiana_AMO_2010131_lrg.jpg

May 10th
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/43000/43926/gulf_tmo_2010130_lrg.jpg

[Gita]

A recording of a radio interview with someone who was allegedly on the rig when it exploded. Notice the Freudian slip, “when the bomb went off – ah, the bomb being the gas!!” Also this guy is well together considering he just lost 11 of his friends and just went through a major trauma!

Hmmm, decide for yourselves!

http://www.drillingahead.com/video/transocean-survivor-interview

[Gita]

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Evidence the oil slick disaster was engineered

THE OIL MESS

12 days into the oil rig 'accident' events continue to evolve and weather is slowing down efforts to contain things, we have two interesting items to report that are not in the MSM yet...OK, three then.

1. We have heard that a supply ship arrived just before the explosions and it was reported to be 'manned by all new people, nobody aboard was from the 'usual supply crew'. This purported industry source continues: there were a total of 14 explosions and these could have been cutting charges. Moreover, the shut off valve below the surface (5000 feet down) on the seabed is not longer controllable. Still, lots of disinfo and speculation scampering around the netosphere. While this is bad, it gets worse.

2. A reader who is an engineer of considerable experience says watch this one evolve carefully because it is destined to continue to grow and he shares this long (but worthy explanation why:
"Heard your mention of the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico this morning, and you (and most everyone else except maybe George Noory) are totally missing the boat on how big and bad of a disaster this is.

First fact, the original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!
I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean. Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of is spewing 200,000 barrels of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor? There just is no way. No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work.

If we can't cap that hole that oil is going to destroy the oceans of the world. It only takes one quart of motor oil to make 250,000 gallons of ocean water toxic to wildlife. Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see. Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped. Unless God steps in and fixes this. No human can. You can be sure of that.

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Read the rest of the article here. (http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3381%3Aevidence-the-oil-slick-disaster-was-engineered-&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en)

[Anchor]

Gita,

Thanks for those links. You do need to go to the forum link to get the file, the first link you posted is a "one use only" type link and is no longer valid.

John..

[stardustaquarion]

Thank you Gita, very well researched articles! I may add a fourth here

4) Shipping routes will be disrupted. The ports of Louisiana are already contemplating closures

Oil spill could reach US port for foreign oil
By HOLBROOK MOHR and ALAN SAYRE - Associated Press Writers

VENICE, La. -- Oil gushing from a blown-out well at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico could force closure of the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port next week, authorities said Friday.

The port, known as LOOP, is a platform off the Louisiana coast about 80 miles southwest of New Orleans. It is one of the leading facilities for imported oil, handling up to 1.2 million barrels a day and feeding half the nation's refinery capacity.

Tankers that are too large to enter the Mississippi River pull up to the facility and hook into a pipeline system that sends their oil to onshore refineries, including those lining the Mississippi north of New Orleans

Current projections show the oil spill from the Deepwater Horizon disaster could reach the port next week, said Sale Sittig, director of the Louisiana Oil Terminal Authority, an oversight body for LOOP.

"It definitely could be shut down if the heavy oil gets in the vicinity of the platform," Sittig said.

The Coast Guard would determine whether LOOP would be shut down. The port has never closed for an extended period since its inception in the 1970s, though it has closed briefly for hurricanes.

Read more: http://www.heraldonline.com/2010/05/07/2152193/oil-spill-could-reach-us-port.html

And this is only the begining, as the oil thickens there will be more disruptions for USA international trade which means shortages and higher prices for the North American public that gets services by the USG ports eventually. It will not happen overnight but it will happen if the cloud of oil keeps spreading because no sane Shipowner will risk to get their ships stuck on it

The USA has scalar weapons technology in their black ops arsenal, are they going to put their secrets before the survival of the planet? who knows.....

Cliff High in his report not only mentioned diseased oceans, difficult to reach ports and lack of sea food, he also mentioned that the black ops programs will be revealed

[Gita]

Gita,

Thanks for those links. You do need to go to the forum link to get the file, the first link you posted is a "one use only" type link and is no longer valid.

John..

John, not sure which link you are talking about! I clicked on the first link just now and I had no problems. Can you please show me which one?:thumb:

[Gita]

Connecting the dots: Astrology, the Galactic Centre and the oil disaster!

The cause of oil Disasters – interesting read from a different perspective.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30723430/The-Cause-of-Oil-Disasters

[Gita]

More articles here for those that may be interested. (http://www.aoreport.com/mag/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1365&Itemid=44)


Political patience wanes as Gulf oil spill grows. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill)


Oil Spill’s ‘Fisheries Failure’ May Signal End of Coastal Towns (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arVrjo0djH.Y)


Fisherman's Eyewitness Account Of Oil Rig Explosion Along with Photos of Explosion (http://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6104)


US oil slick could trigger 'double-dip' recession: analyst (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.edb75fd95c15791749626b309cbafaa0.351&show_article=1)


Oil Spill a Catastrophe of Monumental Proportions: Is It Sabotage? (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22667)

[Gita]

Beneath the Oil slick

http://media.nola.com/2010_gulf_oil_spill/photo/beneaththeoilslickjpg-26ae69ad5b2d305c_large.jpg

[Gita]

US oil spill explained

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[Gita]

Different conspiracies concerning the oil disaster!:eek:

Oil spill is a conspiracy?

AWqlinla1j0

[Gita]

For those who like a little bit of crazy and want to go real deep down the Wabbit hole!!

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DEEPWATER HORIZON Oil Rig


The OIL, the LIO or LEO, the LION KING, the GREAT SPHINX, the LINCOLN, is ON THE MOVE in the Gulf of MEXICO / MEGIDDO.

The charts below demonstrate how the KABAAH STONE of Sacrifice is CUBA once again, just as in the Hurricane Katrina disaster. This time the OIL RIGS = LION RAYS, in the Gulf of Mexico, correspond to the west coast Pacific Seismic Plates of North America. The Deepwater Horizon was located just offshore from New Orleans Louisiana.

The acronym for Lousiana = LA = Los Angeles.
LOUSIANA = LUCIFER – INANNA, Queen of Heaven, Moon Flood goddess
The name of the oil rig that blew up and sank in the Gulf of Mexico was named ‘DEEPWATER HORIZON’.

A breakdown of the meaning of this name is as follows:

DEEPWATER = DEEPWATER
HORIZON = ARIZONA = ORIAANZ = ORIONS

What began as an explosion with the loss of 11 oil workers, turned into a natural disaster of massive proportions.
On April 28, 2010, the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon, began to allow over 200,000 gallons of oil to spill into the Gulf of Mexico each day.

April 28 was a FULL MOON.
April 28 was the 118th day of the year.
118 coincides with 10 on the 10th clockface.
Los Angeles coordinate is 118 degrees W.
April 29 – 2010 – is 66 DAYS SINCE WASHINGTON’S BIRTHDAY ON FEBRUARY 22. Initiating ritualistic events following the 2010 Vancouver Olympics.
This is another symbolic event, one of many, which will continue to unfold for 888 DAYS, until the start of the 2012 London Olympics.

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Continued here. (http://illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com/55-gulf-of-mexico-flood-of-megiddo-route-66-alaska-iceland-baffin-island-cape-horn-california-falic-orion-phallic-osiris-golden-penis-of-osiris/)

[Tuza]

Well, that smelly brown stuff seems to be heading closer to that big fan; maybe we can collectively turn it round yes.

[Gita]

Whether an accident or actions of psychopaths, the fact remains that this disaster for humankind and animal kingdom is one step towards their perverted one world government. The expense of all this will no doubt fall on the people (tax payers) which obviously is not good for the already failing economy. Collapse of the dollar comes to mind leading to one world currency and one world government. It seems there’s nothing these ‘people’ won't do to achieve their goals.:(

http://www.cumber.com/commentary.aspx?file=050210.asp

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Well, that smelly brown stuff seems to be heading closer to that big fan; maybe we can collectively turn it round yes.

Switching off the fan may be a start!!!

[Tuza]

Well that would be cool, cause I don't think I turned it on in the first place, never wanted the darn thing on.

[Gita]

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Leaked Confidential Report on Disaster in the Gulf: Deepwater Oil Well Could Become Unchecked Gusher

'The following is not public' document states

A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf.

"The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

Asked Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks described were reported to the public late Wednesday night. Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself."

In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something is 10 times larger. In this case, an order of magnitude higher would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5,000 barrels a day coming out now. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day. It appears the new leaks mentioned in the Wednesday release are the leaks reported to the public late Wednesday night.

"There is no official change in the volume released but the USCG is no longer stating that the release rate is 1,000 barrels a day," continues the document, referred to as report No. 12. "Instead they are saying that they are preparing for a worst-case release and bringing all assets to bear."

The emergency document also states that the spill has grown in size so quickly that only 1 to 2 percent of it has been sprayed with dispersants.

The Press-Register obtained the emergency report from a government official. The White House, NOAA, the Coast Guard and BP Plc did not immediately return calls for comment made early this morning.

The worst-case scenario (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/gulf_mexico_oil_spill_worst_case.html)for the broken and leaking well pouring oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead and kinked piping currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels -- or 210,000 gallons -- per day.

 LATER REPORT: Video shows federal officials (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/05/video_shows_federal_officials.html)knew quickly of potential for massive oil flow in Gulf spill
If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate.

"Typically, a very good well in the Gulf can produce 30,000 barrels a day, but that's under control. I have no idea what an uncontrolled release could be," said Stephen Sears, chairman of the petroleum engineering department at Louisiana State University.

On Thursday, federal officials said they were preparing for the worst-case scenario but didn't elaborate.

Kinks in the piping created as the rig sank to the seafloor may be all that is preventing the Deepwater Horizon well from releasing its maximum flow. BP is now drilling a relief well as the ultimate fix. The company said Thursday that process would take up to 3 months.

"I'm not sure what's happening down there right now. I have heard there is a kink in what's called the riser. The riser is a long pipe that connects the wellhead to the rig. I really don't know if that kink is a big restriction. Is that really a big restriction? There could be another restriction further down," said LSU's Sears.

"An analogy would be if you have a kink in a garden hose. You suspect that kink is restricting the flow, but there could be another restriction or kink somewhere else closer to the faucet.

BP Plc executive Doug Suttles said Thursday the company was worried about "erosion" of the pipe at the wellhead.

Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP.

"The pipe could disintegrate. You've got sand getting into the pipe, it's eroding the pipe all the time, like a sandblaster," said Ron Gouguet, a former oil spill response coordinator for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

"When the oil is removed normally, it comes out at a controlled rate. You can still have abrasive particles in that. Well, now, at this well, its coming out at fairly high velocity," Gouguet continued. "Any erosive grains are abrading the inside of the pipe and all the steel that comes in contact with the liquid. It's essentially sanding away the pipe."

Gouguet said the loss of a wellhead is totally unprecedented.

"How bad it could get from that, you will have a tremendous volume of oil that is going to be offgassing on the coast. Depending on how much wind is there, and how those gases build up, that's a significant health concern," he said.

The formation that was being drilled by Deepwater Horizon when it exploded and sank last week is reported to have tens of millions of barrels of oil. A barrel contains 42 gallons.

Smullen described the NOAA document as a regular daily briefing. "Your report makes it sound pretty dire. It's a scenario," he said, "It's a regular daily briefing sheet that considered different scenarios much like any first responder would."

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19001

[stardustaquarion]

Thank you Gita

What an amazing find regarding the Illuminati wheels!:faint2:

Love STD

[Gita]

You are most welcomed Stardust.


:( :( :(
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The ocean is a rich blue. But suddenly we see what this crisis is all about
...
The tiny isle is trembling with thousands of birds – gulls and pelicans mostly – and there is no mistaking what else we see. Oil, some in clumps the size of mop-heads, is now sliming its shores. The sand is blackening and the booms that have been laid here seem immune to the advance.
"Take us home, Burt." We have seen what we came to see and it is disgusting. For days we have been reporting on a calamity we had been unable to witness. Now we have. And it is lurid in its awfulness. My last sighting before we cross the edge of land again near New Orleans: a group of dolphins playing. How far away is the oil? Ten minutes flying, or less.

Crude oil streaks on the surface of the Gulf of Mexico can be seen from the air several miles from where the Deepwater Horizon oil rig blew up

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00367/pg-28-plane-shot-ap_367128s.jpg

Nesting brown pelicans, terns and seagulls on Breton Island off the coast of Louisiana

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00367/pg-28-seagulls-ap_367127s.jpg

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Full article here. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-ocean-is-a-rich-blue-but-suddenly-we-see-what-this-crisis-is-all-about-1964502.html)

[Gita]

BP: One of Three Leaks Sealed

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[Gita]

Raw Video: Burning the Oil Off the Water :eek:

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[Gita]

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Thank Dick Cheney for Gulf Oil Spill

(NEWSER) – The scope of the Gulf oil spill is far from clear, but the finger-pointing is already under way, and a lot of fingers ought to be aiming at Dick Cheney, Alex Pareene blogs for Salon. Connecting the dots that begin with a Wall Street Journal exposé, we learn that Cheney's highly classified energy task force was responsible for the fact "that the oil well didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch," Pareene writes, "a thing that it seems every single offshore drilling rig should have."

"The former Dark Lord of the Naval Observatory" is no rookie at covering his tracks, but the follow-up argument is a no-brainer: "Halliburton is involved, too! The Los Angeles Times reports that BP contracted Dick Cheney's old company to cement the deepwater drill hole." In short, Pareene writes, "Thanks, Dick. Nice work."

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Source (http://www.newser.com/story/87681/whos-to-blame-for-the-oil-spill-dick-cheney-war-room-saloncom.html)

[Gita]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/328/oilleakm.jpg

[stardustaquarion]

It also appears that there were doubts on whether the cement had cured, watch minute 8:06 more or less http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2022-Why-is-Halliburton-always-involved&p=18245&viewfull=1#post18245, whether that is the cause or it is just and additional fact that contributed to the final outcome, I guess we will never know for certain because the evidence is 5000 mtrs under the sea :mmph:

[Gita]

URGENT ALERT: Witness PROVES Gulf Oil Rig Explosion Survivors ARE Being Silenced By Big Oil

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[Gita]

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Oil Spill: Company says it has solution for oil spill, but being ignored

St Petersburg, Florida -- With the disaster in the Gulf keeping everyone on edge looking for a solution, the answer might lay in material manufactured by a Columbian company with an office in Florida.
The company, Global Environmental Technology, has a product that is 100 percent organic and was invented in 1998 by its president, Carlos Forero. He won science competitions in Switzerland and Austria for the product, which encapsulates oil and cleans the material up.

Not only does the product clean up the oil, it can also be recycled for use afterwards. In addition, if birds are contaminated, the product can used for them as well.
You would think that with the disaster in the Gulf, and oil spilling out and heading to the beaches, the Coast Guard would be interested in the product. However, the company says all they are getting is red tape and getting nowhere.

Liz Cabot, Forero's sister, says the Coast Guard said come back when they got EPA approval. When EPA reviewed the product and said it could be used, the company went back to the Coast Guard and Cabot says they were told they had to fill out paperwork. Cabot says they have been waiting and waiting for the paperwork to clear.
And while the paperwork is being cleared, the oil continues to spread in the Gulf.

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http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=131582&catid=8

:rolleyes:

[stardustaquarion]

Jay weidner on the oil spill

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Play list http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BAB22077FC8E896F

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey its great that we all are contributing here....keep up the great work. Lets pray...

Thought this was apt!!

She is giving birth

Thick clouds and cold air

confuse the expectation

as if we’re turning retrograde

toward winter;

talk in a coffee shop

about weird weather,

looking to the sky for light;

in the Gulf of Mexico

Gaia’s artery lays open

altering the sea irrevocably;

fish and birds are witness

to a threshold crossed;

sky brightens through the clouds

but an eerie sense remains

of a strange new time;

Gaia integrates, this is nature

but who will attend Her labor?

The wet leaves receive what comes

and out to sea there is a cry,

the earth trembling;

She is giving birth.

Don Hynes

viking

[stardustaquarion]

4,900,000 gallons so far.....no end in sight........

[Gita]

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Since Spill, Feds Have Given 27 Waivers to Oil Companies in Gulf

'Since the Deepwater Horizon oil drilling rig exploded on April 20, the Obama administration has granted oil and gas companies at least 27 exemptions from doing in-depth environmental studies of oil exploration and production in the Gulf of Mexico.

The waivers were granted despite President Barack Obama’s vow that his administration would launch a “relentless response effort” to stop the leak and prevent more damage to the gulf. One of them was dated Friday — the day after Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said he was temporarily halting offshore drilling.'

Read more: Since Spill, Feds Have Given 27 Waivers to Oil Companies in Gulf (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/07/93761/despite-spill-feds-still-giving.html)


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source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

[stardustaquarion]

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[lilac]

WHY IS THIS WAR CRIMINAL STILL WALKING AROUND?

A common spin in the right wing coverage of BP's oil spill is a gleeful
suggestion that the gulf blowout is Obama's Katrina.

In truth, culpability for the disaster can more accurately be laid at
the Bush Administration's doorstep. For eight years, George Bush's
presidency infected the oil industry's oversight agency, the Minerals
Management Service, with a septic culture of corruption from which it
has yet to recover. Oil patch alumnae in the White House encouraged
agency personnel to engineer weakened safeguards that directly
contributed to the gulf catastrophe.

The absence of an acoustical regulator -- a remotely triggered dead
man's switch that might have closed off BP's gushing pipe at its sea
floor wellhead when the manual switch failed (the fire and explosion on
the drilling platform may have prevented the dying workers from pushing
the button) -- was directly attributable to industry pandering by the
Bush team. Acoustic switches are required by law for all offshore rigs
off Brazil and in Norway's North Sea operations. BP uses the device
voluntarily in Britain's North Sea and elsewhere in the world as do
other big players like Holland's Shell and France's Total. In 2000, the
Minerals Management Service while weighing a comprehensive rulemaking
for drilling safety, deemed the acoustic mechanism "essential" and
proposed to mandate the mechanism on all gulf rigs.

Then, between January and March of 2001, incoming Vice President Dick
Cheney conducted secret meetings with over 100 oil industry officials
allowing them to draft a wish list of industry demands to be implemented
by the oil friendly administration. Cheney also used that time to
re-staff the Minerals Management Service with oil industry toadies
including a cabal of his Wyoming carbon cronies. In 2003, newly
reconstituted Minerals Management Service genuflected to the oil cartel
by recommending the removal of the proposed requirement for acoustic
switches. The Minerals Management Service's 2003 study concluded that
"acoustic systems are not recommended because they tend to be very
costly."

The acoustic trigger costs about $500,000. Estimated costs of the oil
spill to Gulf Coast residents are now upward of $14 billion to gulf
state communities. Bush's 2005 energy bill officially dropped the
requirement for the acoustic switch off devices explaining that the
industry's existing practices are "failsafe."

Bending over for Big Oil became the ideological posture of the Bush
White House, and, under Cheney's cruel whip, the practice trickled down
through the regulatory bureaucracy. The Minerals Management Service --
the poster child for "agency capture phenomena" -- hopped into bed with
the regulated industry -- literally. A 2009 investigation of the
Minerals Management Service found that agency officials "frequently
consumed alcohol at industry functions, had used cocaine and marijuana
and had sexual relationships with oil and gas company representatives."
Three reports by the Inspector General describe an open bazaar of
payoffs, bribes and kickbacks spiced with scenes of female employees
providing sexual favors to industry big wigs who in turn rewarded
government workers with illegal contracts. In one incident reported by
the Inspector General, agency employees got so drunk at a Shell
sponsored golf event that they could not drive home and had to sleep in
hotel rooms paid for by Shell.

Pervasive intercourse also characterized their financial relations.
Industry lobbyists underwrote lavish parties and showered agency
employees with illegal gifts, and lucrative personal contracts and
treated them to regular golf, ski, and paintball outings, trips to rock
concerts and professional sports events. The Inspector General
characterized this orgy of wheeling and dealing as "a culture of ethical
failure" that cost taxpayers millions in royalty fees and produced reams
of bad science to justify unregulated deep water drilling in the gulf.

It is charitable to characterize the ethics of these government
officials as "elastic." They seemed not to have existed at all. The
Inspector General reported with some astonishment that Bush's crew at
the MMS, when confronted with the laundry list of bribery, public theft
and sexual and financial favors to and from industry "showed no
remorse."

BP's confidence in lax government oversight by a badly compromised
agency still staffed with Bush era holdovers may have prompted the
company to take two other dangerous shortcuts. First, BP failed to
install a deep hole shut off valve -- another fail-safe that might have
averted the spill. And second, BP's reported willingness to violate the
law by drilling to depths of 22,000-25,000 feet instead of the 18,000
feet maximum depth allowed by its permit may have contributed to this
catastrophe.

And wherever there's a national tragedy involving oil, Cheney's offshore
company Halliburton is never far afield. In fact, stay tuned;
Halliburton may emerge as the primary villain in this caper. The blow
out occurred shortly after Halliburton completed an operation to
reinforce drilling hole casing with concrete slurry. This is a sensitive
process that, according to government experts, can trigger catastrophic
blowouts if not performed attentively. According to the Minerals
Management Service, 18 of 39 blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico since 1996
were attributed to poor workmanship injecting cement around the metal
pipe. Halliburton is currently under investigation by the Australian
government for a massive blowout in the Timor Sea in 2005 caused by its
faulty application of concrete casing.

The Obama administration has assigned nearly 2,000 federal personnel
from the Coast Guard, the Corps of Engineers, the Department of Defense,
the Department of Commerce, EPA, NOAA and Department of Interior to deal
with the spill -- an impressive response. Still, the current White House
is not without fault -- the government should, for example, be requiring
a far greater deployment of absorbent booms. But the real culprit in
this villainy is a negligent industry, the festering ethics of the Bush
Administration and poor oversight by an agency corrupted by eight years
of grotesque subservience to Big Oil.
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[Swami]

Another rumor I heard.....

The Dutchies offered to come out and help. ""'We""" have the biggest vessels in the world to clean up oilspills (still not enough) and the experience to do it.
It was refused............

[Swami]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pBcf0o444

[stardustaquarion]

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Boycot BP.....please make it viral :)

[lilac]

http://goldeneagleceremonies.com/ninepoint.html
"On MAY 18, 2010, we are asking for your help in shifting the spirit of damaged "Waters". For the past l0 years, we have been organizing what we call a Nine-Pointed Star Ceremony. The ceremony consists of eight-points around a specific need. We have been in contact with several individuals that have helped us link a crystal altar around the planet. We need energy, at the time of this ceremony, to produce enough strength for the Mother Earth to create the Ninth Point of the Star. We do this simultaneous ceremony to allow the Mother Earth to reach out on her own to call upon the Great Mystery to heal Her.

There are several factors in this effort to heal the waters. The factors include using our energies to clear the debris off of golden disks (electromagnetic/crystalline energies), to clear the negative energies that have damaged our waters, and to bring forth abundance, purity and sustainability.

It is vital that the women use their "birthing" energies to give life back to the crystalline energy of water (original DNA blueprint.) To accomplish this, the women - along with the men - need to gather sacred offerings that will be placed in the waters. Offerings need to be held in your hands, an INTENT directed to the offerings....THEN the offerings need to be placed in the waters with reverence. Intentions are the things we are asking healing for; in this case,WATER, both worldwide and also in our own particular areas. The offerings may consist of, but are not limited to: crystals, herbs, ceremonial offerings.... anything that has importance to YOU in a sacred way......

[Gita]

A must watch vid – awesome!

Amateur Video Of Gulf Oil Slick - Worse Than BP Admits

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[Gita]

Underwater video of the oil leak! (They call this a leak?!!):confused:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2010/05/12/bp.crater.plume.gassing.clean.cnn&hpt=P1&iref=NS1

[Gita]

quote

Spill hits coast of Alabama
...
It was fraught with doubt and peril since nothing like it had been attempted at such depths with water pressure great enough to crush a submarine. It ended up encountering icy crystals, familiar territory for deepwater drilling.

The icy buildup on the containment box made it too buoyant and clogged it up, BP’s Suttles said. Workers who had carefully lowered the massive box over the leak nearly a mile below the surface had to lift it and move it some 600 feet to the side. If it had worked, authorities had said it would reduce the flow by about 85 percent, buying a bit more time as a three-month effort to drill a relief well goes on simultaneously.

Company and Coast Guard officials had cautioned that icelike hydrates, a slushy mixture of gas and water, would be one of the biggest challenges to the containment box plan, and their warnings proved accurate. The crystals clogged the opening in the top of the peaked box like sand in a funnel, only upside-down.
...”

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Full Article. (http://bpoilslick.blogspot.com/2010/05/spill-hits-coast-of-alabama.html)

[stardustaquarion]

Lindsey Williams on Jeff Rense

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playlist http://www.youtube.com/user/SetYouFreee#p/p/75E699198899F3E7/0/Q0z-IraAVDU

Boycot BP until they fix this mess:thumb:

[Swami]

Symbology............??

http://mattus.web-log.nl/vibe_visual_brand_experie/images/mattus_bp.jpg

Maybe we should glue that "sun" on every oilspill-image coming out these days, use their tools..........

[stardustaquarion]

Things are to bad to tell us apparently. This is from George Ure's Blog http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm


Coping: Slick PR Job

Worth reading: Brian Hartman's "Reporter's Notebook" piece "No Press Allowed? ABC Reporter Turned Away from Oil Spill Command Center." Why press aren't being allowed to watch on scene is beyond me. No, I take that back: spoon-feeding the media once a day makes sense if they're trying to control the public perception of an event - which is what PR department/damage control plans are about.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/gulf-mexico-oil-spill-press-allowed-inside-oil/story?id=10616306

But we keep hearing about problems being considered as the spill move toward Texas and rumors of DoD and civilian response plans for when the winds change and the oil heads east.

So, about the only thing is the daily spill map:

http://urbansurvival.com/week.h595.jpg

The dark (big) outline is where - with uncertainty applioed- the spill could reach by Friday evening 6 PM.

As to comparisons with past disasters, we note the Exxon Valdez spill involved 10.8 million US gallons.

With this data in hand, we can estimate that on (or about) June 10, this will pass the Exxon Valdez in size. And, it will be double the Exxon Valdez by about August 1st. September 22 it will be three times the Exxon Valdez and - if they haven't got it shut down, November 12 or so it will be four times the size of Exxon Valdez.
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[Swami]

Thank you British Petrol.....
http://www.atcrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/oil-spill4.jpg

http://www.atcrux.com/2010/05/07/18-ariel-images-of-the-oil-spill-in-the-gulf-of-mexico/

[stardustaquarion]

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MOX NEWS mmmm:ear:

[stardustaquarion]

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Who's ANADARKO? Is a North American Company, http://www.anadarko.com/Home/Pages/Home.aspx

James T. Hackett
Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer

Mr. Hackett was named Chief Executive Officer of the Company in December 2003, and Chairman of the Board of the Company in January 2006. He also served as President of the Company from December 2003 to February 2010. Prior to joining the Company, Mr. Hackett was the President and Chief Operating Officer of Devon Energy Corporation from April 2003 to December 2003, following Devon's merger with Ocean Energy, Inc. Mr. Hackett was Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of Ocean Energy, Inc. from March 1999 to April 2003 and was Chairman of the Board from January 2000 to April 2003. He served as Chief Executive Officer and President of Seagull Energy Corporation from September 1998 until March 1999 and as Chairman of the Board from January 1999 to March 1999 prior to its merger with Ocean Energy. He is a director of Fluor Corporation and Halliburton Company and serves as Chairman of the Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. He is the former Chairman of Houston Grand Opera, Campaign Chairman and a member of the Board, and serves as Vice Chairman of the Board (and as Finance Chairman) of the Baylor College of Medicine, and on the Boards of the Business Roundtable, and the Trilateral Commission. He is an Adjunct Professor at Rice University.

[Swami]

Venezuelan natural gas platform sinks, Chavez announces



A gas platform has sunk in the Caribbean Sea off the coast of Venezuela, but the energy minister says it poses no risk to the environment.
President Hugo Chavez announced the incident via his account on the social networking site Twitter.
He said all 95 workers were evacuated from the Aban Pearl platform before it sank in the early hours of Thursday.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47840000/gif/_47840369_venezuela_aban_226.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8679981.stm

[stardustaquarion]

Venezuelan natural gas platform sinks, Chavez announces



http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47840000/gif/_47840369_venezuela_aban_226.gif



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8679981.stm


Thank you for the info, isn't this happening a little too often now?:confused:

[Etherios]

Thank you for the info, isn't this happening a little too often now?:confused:

And in the same general area of middle american continent... lets hope we dont see more around there...

[Swami]

Thank you for the info, isn't this happening a little too often now?:confused:

I think they are driving up the prices on fossil fuels, and they are ALLL in on it.......
They are sucking out the last resources (money) peoples on the planet have before...........????false-flag-alien-invasion????

[stardustaquarion]

I think they are driving up the prices on fossil fuels, and they are ALLL in on it.......
They are sucking out the last resources (money) peoples on the planet have before...........????false-flag-alien-invasion????

This fake alien invasion does seem to be popping up more often, have read by passing some headlines about aliens, you may be right here..

Also, prices may go up faster and higher look at this

quote
One more . . . The aware observer should recognize the significance of this . . .

From Houma Today
State tells oil industry spill could halt production

quote:HOUMA — Louisiana officials have told oil-and-gas operators in coastal parishes to be ready to halt production and evacuate workers if the still-growing Gulf oil spill makes operations unsafe.

Gov. Bobby Jindal’s emergency-preparedness office sent the administrative order Tuesday for state leases in Terrebonne, Lafourche, Vermilion, Iberia, St. Mary, Jefferson, Plaquemines, St. Bernard, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes.

“This is not an order to shut in or shut down; it is an order to be prepared should that order come,” said Patrick Courreges, communications director for the state Department of Natural Resources.

* * *

http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20100512/ARTICLES/100519750/-1/news08?Title=State-tells-oil-industry-spill-could-halt-production

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[stardustaquarion]

A sea of oil :(

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[lindabaker]

Message from Chief Arvol Looking Horse
19th generation Keeper of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe

Today at 8:44am

My Relatives,

Time has come to speak to the hearts of our Nations and their Leaders. I
ask you this from the bottom of my heart, to come together from the Spirit
of your Nations in prayer.

We, from the heart of Turtle Island, have a great message for the World; we
are guided to speak from all the White Animals showing their sacred color,
which have been signs for us to pray for the sacred life of all things. As
I am sending this message to you, many Animal Nations are being threatened,
those that swim, those that crawl, those that fly, and the plant Nations,
eventually all will be affect from the oil disaster in the Gulf.

The dangers we are faced with at this time are not of spirit. The
catastrophe that has happened with the oil spill which looks like the
bleeding of Grandmother Earth, is made by human mistakes, mistakes that we
cannot afford to continue to make.

I asked, as Spiritual Leaders, that we join together, united in prayer with
the whole of our Global Communities. My concern is these serious issues will
continue to worsen, as a domino effect that our Ancestors have warned us of
in their Prophecies.

I know in my heart there are millions of people that feel our united prayers
for the sake of our Grandmother Earth are long overdue. I believe we as
Spiritual people must gather ourselves and focus our thoughts and prayers to
allow the healing of the many wounds that have been inflicted on the Earth.
As we honor the Cycle of Life, let us call for Prayer circles globally to
assist in healing Grandmother Earth (our Unc¹I Maka).

We ask for prayers that the oil spill, this bleeding, will stop. That the
winds stay calm to assist in the work. Pray for the people to be guided in
repairing this mistake, and that we may also seek to live in harmony, as we
make the choice to change the destructive path we are on.

As we pray, we will fully understand that we are all connected. And that
what we create can have lasting effects on all life.

So let us unite spiritually, All Nations, All Faiths, One Prayer. Along
with this immediate effort, I also ask to please remember June 21st, World
Peace and Prayer Day/Honoring Sacred Sites day. Whether it is a natural
site, a temple, a church, a synagogue or just your own sacred space, let us
make a prayer for all life, for good decision making by our Nations, for our
children¹s future and well-being, and the generations to come.

Onipikte (that we shall live),

Chief Arvol Looking Horse
19th generation Keeper of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe
(Wolakota.org)

[stardustaquarion]

Lindabaker, thank you for the lovely message, it rings true

[stardustaquarion]

As for the BP lot

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BP seems to be very good at taking profits and very bad at responding to crisis cos they have not been investing in safety, it is disgusting :tsk:

Please Boycot BP until they fix this!

[SpoonMan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/14oil.html?src=me

"Two weeks ago, the government put out a round estimate of the size of the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico: 5,000 barrels a day. Repeated endlessly in news reports, it has become conventional wisdom.
But scientists and environmental groups are raising sharp questions about that estimate, declaring that the leak must be far larger. They also criticize BP for refusing to use well-known scientific techniques that would give a more precise figure.

The criticism escalated on Thursday, a day after the release of a video that showed a huge black plume of oil gushing from the broken well at a seemingly high rate. BP has repeatedly claimed that measuring the plume would be impossible.
The figure of 5,000 barrels a day was hastily produced by government scientists in Seattle. It appears to have been calculated using a method that is specifically not recommended for major oil spills.

Ian R. MacDonald, an oceanographer at Florida State University who is an expert in the analysis of oil slicks, said he had made his own rough calculations using satellite imagery. They suggested that the leak could “easily be four or five times” the government estimate, he said.
“The government has a responsibility to get good numbers,” Dr. MacDonald said. “If it’s beyond their technical capability, the whole world is ready to help them.”

Scientists said that the size of the spill was directly related to the amount of damage it would do in the ocean and onshore, and that calculating it accurately was important for that reason.

BP has repeatedly said that its highest priority is stopping the leak, not measuring it. “There’s just no way to measure it,” Kent Wells, a BP senior vice president, said in a recent briefing.

Yet for decades, specialists have used a technique that is almost tailor-made for the problem. With undersea gear that resembles the ultrasound machines in medical offices, they measure the flow rate from hot-water vents on the ocean floor. Scientists said that such equipment could be tuned to allow for accurate measurement of oil and gas flowing from the well. "

[stardustaquarion]

I think your article is on the spot SpoonMan, I have found similar sort of comments on the internet. The amount of oil they are reporting does not add up to the extent of the spillage so far
Thank you

[Swanny]

This is a world problem why aren't the governments of the world working together to fix it?????

[Gita]

UNBELIEVABLE

‘ Oil spill is a drop in the ocean’

Heard on Sky news this morning that the boss of BP, Chief Executive Tony Hayward has claimed the oil spill in Gulf of Mexico is relatively tiny compared to the size of the ocean. In an interview with the Guardian newspaper, the idiot said, “The Gulf of Mexico is a very big ocean. The amount of volume of oil and dispersant we are putting into it is tiny in relation to the total water volume”.

:mad2::der::wacko::yell::angry::shout::mad2:

[Ruis]

Here is what the pipe looks like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rlPPFcy-3Vo&gl=GB




http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0422/Amid-search-for-Deepwater-Horizon-oil-rig-survivors-What-happened
Kinks in the piping created as the rig sank to the seafloor may be all that is preventing the Deepwater Horizon well from releasing its maximum flow. BP is now drilling a relief well as the ultimate fix. The company said Thursday that process would take up to 3 months.

Sand is an integral part of the formations that hold oil under the Gulf. That sand, carried in the oil as it shoots through the piping, is blamed for the ongoing erosion described by BP
http://crossedcrocodiles.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/deep-water-drilling-what-can-go-wrong/

Industry news:
http://www.drillingahead.com/forum/topics/transocean-deepwater-horizon-1
http://fabiusmaximus.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/gulf-2/

There are many other sources and information on what happened, how the pipe will most likely be stopped, and what reprecussions may follow. But what fun is fact finding and showing sources with the chance to predict the end of the world and a nuclear strike.

[Gita]

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US Senate Begins Oil Spill Cover-Up

by Tom Eley

On Tuesday, the US senate began hearings into the Deepwater Horizon disaster, which took the lives of 11 workers in an April 20 explosion and has since poured millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, threatening the region with an environmental and economic catastrophe.

Appearing before the Energy and Natural Resources Committee in the morning and the Environmental and Public Health Committee in the afternoon were executives from the three corporations implicated in the disaster: Lamar McKay, president of the US operations of BP, which owned the oil and the drill site; Steven Newman, president of Transocean, the contractor that owned the rig and employed most of its workers; and Tim Probert, an executive with Halliburton, which contracted for the work of cementing the rig’s wellhead one mile beneath ocean’s surface.

The hearing resembled a falling out among thieves, with multi-millionaire executives—who, until April 20, had collaborated in thwarting basic safety and environmental considerations—each blaming the other for the explosion.

McKay of BP blamed Transocean. “Transocean owned the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig and its equipment, including the blowout preventer,” he said. “Transocean’s blowout preventer failed to operate.” Newman flatly denied that the blowout preventer was responsible for the disaster, shifting blame to BP, which he said controlled the operation, and Halliburton, which was responsible for the cementing around the well cap. “The one thing we know with certainty is that on the evening of April 20 there was a sudden, catastrophic failure of the cement, the casing, or both,” Newman said. Probert of Halliburton pushed back, indicating that BP and Transocean had moved forward operations before cementing was adequately set.

There was, in fact, some harmony between the accounts offered by the executives of Halliburton and Transocean, both of whom appeared to suggest that BP ordered the skipping of a usual step in offshore drilling—the placing of a cement plug inside the well to hold explosive gases in place. That this step was passed over was corroborated by two workers on the rig, who spoke to the Wall Street Journal on condition of anonymity. The workers also told the Journal that BP first cleared the decision with the US Department of the Interior’s Minerals Management Service (MMS). Both BP and the MMS refused comment to the Journal.

Robert Bea, a University of California at Berkeley engineering professor, has gathered testimony from Deepwater Horizon survivors that indicates the rig was hit by major bursts of natural gas, promoting fears of an explosion just weeks before the April 20 blast, the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports. This raised concerns about whether mud at the well head should be replaced by much lighter seawater prior to installation of a concrete plug. The decision to proceed won out, according to information gathered by Bea.

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[Gita]

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Chemical Contamination in Gulf of Mexico
‘Unprecedented’ Use of Subsea Dispersant to Combat BP Oil Disaster

by Rady Ananda


On May 12, the Deepwater Horizon Incident Unified Command held a media advisory regarding the BP oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, which began on April 20th. Officials advised that subsea dispersants, the effects of which are widely unknown, are being used for the first time.

EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson and Dr. Jane Lubchenco, Undersecretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere, NOAA, opened the call with brief statements focused on the use of dispersants, chemical agents used to break up the oil.

Surface and subsea dispersants, chemical agents used to break up the oil, are being used. The use of “subsea dispersants is unprecedented,” reported Lisa Jackson.

As the Deepwater Horizon oil platform is located 48 miles offshore, most of the dispersants that have been used are no closer than 30 miles to the shoreline. The subsea dispersants are used at 10 meters and deeper.

Officials monitoring the subsea results reported that the first two tests were inconclusive. Logistical problems in obtaining samples down to 5,000 feet prevented proper sampling. A third test is underway, with some samples already in the labs at Louisiana State University.

The tests involve satellite and airplane imaging, and chemical, biological and atmospheric sampling. Temperature, salinity, and particle size in situ and above surface are also being monitored.

Subsea dispersants require much less in volume than do surface ones, but the effects of their use are still widely unknown. Authorities are taking an “adaptive monitoring approach,” meaning they modify the monitoring requirements as the test proceeds.

“This is no silver bullet,” warned Jackson. “Dispersants are the lesser harm.” The response team is also skimming the surface of oil and burning it, she reported.

Chemical dispersants can be highly toxic and some have been banned by the EPA and in the UK. A particularly toxic one, known as 9527, has been used, but officials were unable to provide the exact amount. Another dispersant, 9500, is the modified and safer version. Jackson roughly estimated that between the two, they’ve used each equally, but did not provide the total figure.

Jackson did say that 500,000 gallons are already staged and another 805,000 gallons of dispersant have been ordered.

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[Gita]

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Wayne Madsen: The Cover-up - BP's Crude Politics and the Looming Environmental Mega-Disaster

WMR has been informed by sources in the US Army Corps of Engineers, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and Florida Department of Environmental Protection that the Obama White House and British Petroleum (BP), which pumped $71,000 into Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign -- more than John McCain or Hillary Clinton--, are covering up the magnitude of the volcanic-level oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico and working together to limit BP's liability for damage caused by what can be called a "mega-disaster."

Obama and his senior White House staff, as well as Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, are working with BP's chief executive officer Tony Hayward on legislation that would raise the cap on liability for damage claims from those affected by the oil disaster from $75 million to $10 billion. However, WMR's federal and Gulf state sources are reporting the disaster has the real potential cost of at least $1 trillion. Critics of the deal being worked out between Obama and Hayward point out that $10 billion is a mere drop in the bucket for a trillion dollar disaster but also note that BP, if its assets were nationalized, could fetch almost a trillion dollars for compensation purposes. There is talk in some government circles, including FEMA, of the need to nationalize BP in order to compensate those who will ultimately be affected by the worst oil disaster in the history of the world.

Plans by BP to sink a 4-story containment dome over the oil gushing from a gaping chasm one kilometer below the surface of the Gulf, where the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded and killed 11 workers on April 20, and reports that one of the leaks has been contained is pure public relations disinformation designed to avoid panic and demands for greater action by the Obama administration, according to FEMA and Corps of Engineers sources. Sources within these agencies say the White House has been resisting releasing any "damaging information" about the oil disaster. They add that if the ocean oil geyser is not stopped within 90 days, there will be irreversible damage to the marine eco-systems of the Gulf of Mexico, north Atlantic Ocean, and beyond. At best, some Corps of Engineers experts say it could take two years to cement the chasm on the floor of the Gulf.

Only after the magnitude of the disaster became evident did Obama order Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to declare the oil disaster a "national security issue." Although the Coast Guard and FEMA are part of her department, Napolitano's actual reasoning for invoking national security was to block media coverage of the immensity of the disaster that is unfolding for the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Ocean and their coastlines.

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[Kulapops]

It's not another problem-reaction-solution is it?? But for what....?

[Gita]

It's not another problem-reaction-solution is it?? But for what....?


Whether an accident or actions of psychopaths, the fact remains that this disaster for humankind and animal kingdom is one step towards their perverted one world government. The expense of all this will no doubt fall on the people (tax payers) which obviously is not good for the already failing economy. Collapse of the dollar comes to mind leading to one world currency and one world government. It seems there’s nothing these ‘people’ won't do to achieve their goals.:(

http://www.cumber.com/commentary.aspx?file=050210.asp

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[Kulapops]

Hmm... Interesting Gita...

Still, I can't help feeling that these plans by these 'evil minions' are a lot like the Bond Villain's. Why do they go such a long way around?

Just shoot Bond when you get the chance, don't start into a monologue about what you're going to do to the world...just do it!

K

[Gita]

They just like the drama Kula. It feeds their ego just fine! I wouldn’t even try to figure out why they do the things they do – their minds work completely different to ours. It’s a bit like paedophiles – they do what they do and the rest of us can never fathom why?

Also check out this link Kula - it may help you to understand their ways a bit better!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2027-Oil-spill-The-quot-Kowing-quot-movie-did-we-create-this&p=18243&viewfull=1#post18243

[stardustaquarion]

This is a world problem why aren't the governments of the world working together to fix it?????

My take of the situation is that BP will have to pay for it and they are wrangling about that. Obama has asked the congress to increase the limit of liability, it comes down to money at the end! It is just so stupid!:ohwell:

[Mauree]

It looks to me like these Oil 'chiefs' Don't have the foggiest idea how to fix this massive oil leak?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Just recieved this....

Dear friends,

A horrific oil spill is spreading through the Gulf of Mexico. Yet U.S. law-makers still plan to ramp up offshore oil drilling. Let's send a global outcry to President Obama and Congress urging them to overturn offshore drilling expansion -- sign the petition, it will be delivered to the White House:

We've all seen the outrageous images: a monstrous oil spill is gushing as much as 2,500,000 gallons of crude a day into the Gulf of Mexico.

Before the spill, U.S. President Obama and Congressional leaders were planning to ramp up offshore drilling. Now, with the spill, the politics have shifted -- and an opportunity has opened for the world's biggest historical climate polluter to shift away from oil and towards climate-safe energy sources.

At a moment like this, when leaders are making up their minds, the world's voices can help tip the balance. Sign the petition urging the U.S. to stop offshore drilling and invest instead in clean renewable energy -- the signatures will be delivered to the White House in Washington DC when we reach 500,000! Click to sign on now and spread the word:

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_offshore_drilling_3/?vl

This disaster is expected to be catastrophic for the land and people in the gulf. The oil has already reached land, contaminating wildlife sanctuaries. Authorities are so concerned about the impacts of more oil reaching land that they are prefer to set the gulf on fire, burning as much of the oil as possible.

Meanwhile, the fossil fuel industry is raking in windfall profits. BP, which operated the sunken rig, more than doubled its first quarter profits in 2010 to $5.65 billion.

For years, the world has waited for the U.S. to step up on climate. But with the carbon lobby's strangle-hold on Washington, we’ve had more drilling in place of stronger investment in cleaner, safer energy sources. It’s time to for a change -- Senator Bill Nelson of Florida has already introduced legislation to repeal plans to expand offshore drilling. Let's back him up with an outpouring of global public outrage. Sign the petition calling on President Obama and Congress to end offshore drilling, and take the US and the world to clean energy future:

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_offshore_drilling_3/?vl

With Hope,

Ben, Iain, Alice, David, and the Avaaz team

SOURCES:

"Gulf Oil Spill Presents Political Challenges," Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/29/AR2010042902290.html?hpid=topnews

"Gulf oil spill washes up on political shores," BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8665312.stm

"Black storm rising," The Economist:

http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=16059982

"Recovery still incomplete after Exxon Valdez," NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/us/06alaska.html

"Fly your sea turtle flag high: a slippery stew of shrimp, oil, and sea turtles," Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wallace-j-nichols/fly-your-sea-turtle-flag_b_563773.html

"How much oil has leaked into the Gulf of Mexico?," PBS (source of 2.5 million gallons per day outward estimate):

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/05/how-much-oil-has-spilled-in-the-gulf-of-mexico.html

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viking

[SpoonMan]

U.S. Representative Edward Markey said he is concerned BP's well in the Gulf of Mexico may be leaking as much as 70,000 barrels of oil a day, compared with previous estimates of 5,000 barrels.


AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! <--That was as positive as I can be right now.

[stardustaquarion]

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money, money, money :mad2: please Boycot BP until they fix this!

[bluestflame]

aren't oil fires toxic? how would they contain the smoke , rather try to contain the oil i rekon

[stardustaquarion]

Is this what tptb does not want us to see?

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This has so many toxic chemicals that we will all feel the effects sooner or later. I am no expert here info from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke

[bluestflame]

ah so that's why the really good effective respirators are so expensive so only the wealthy can afford to buy them ?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Gulf Oil Spill: Flow May Be 14 Times Greater Than First Thought :(

The government initially estimated that 5,000 barrels of oil per day are pouring into the Gulf of Mexico from the BP well that exploded April 20. That number came -- hastily -- from government scientists in Seattle, and quickly filtered through the media. Now, independent teams of analysts are using other technologies to calculate the size of the spill, and concluding that the government estimate is way off.

further reading...
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05/14/gulf-oil-spill-flow-may-be-14-times-greater-than-first-thought/

viking

[MargueriteBee]

Just imagine how we can heal the earth with the transition that is in progress. We have the power. Imagine....

[RedeZra]

Here is what the pipe looks like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rlPPFcy-3Vo&gl=GB




if that pipe were the size of a garden hose

it would fill a barrel every 6 min and 240 barrels a day

but it's 20 times the size of a garden hose

making the rate of fluid flow 400 times greater than the garden hose

if we assume the same pressure for simplicity's sake but still within reason

and so the oil spill is almost 100 000 barrels a day

that is 1 Exxon Valdez every 3 days

and this is one big leaking oil reservoir


start praying boys and girls

[Etherios]

If this was set up as some news i have read ... can anyone think of a reason they would do this?

[Swami]

If this was set up as some news i have read ... can anyone think of a reason they would do this?

Kill off China......??

[Etherios]

Kill off China......??


HUH? How is this connected to china?

[Eric J (Viking)]

A Picture paints a thousand words...

Just found this...

To all those people who have suppressed technology that could have helped humanity towards a more peaceful and easier way of life.

To all those people that GREED and SELFISH embedded on there foreheads and have no other motive than to line there pockets.

To all those people that have been ignorant to the ‘Universal Laws of Nature’ and beyond...

To all those politicians and people in the ‘know’ that have ignored the pleas from our space Brothers and Sisters and many Humans.

To all those people that have simply looked the other way whilst some of the greatest and bravest people on this planet have searched for and told ‘truth’.

To all those people that have murdered others for ultimately greed.

Your time is short…YOU HAVE RAPED AND PILLAGED EARTH FAR TOO LONG.

You do not belong here on ‘Earth’ … GO!

Look at these pictures and bow your heads in Shame.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/disaster_unfolds_slowly_in_the.html

viking

[Swami]

Inflation in China is rising big time......

China is one of the biggest users of oil, if not the biggest right now.....

Oilprices will rise big time...

I heard this in a interview some where....

I cant explain it, I'm a total nut in economics.......

[stardustaquarion]

Very interesting perspectives regarding what is happening

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playlist http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8507C4B742C407F5

:eyebrows:

[stardustaquarion]

Very interesting article

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Obama Sends Bomb, Mars Experts to Fix BP Oil Spill (Update1)
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By Jessica Resnick-Ault and Katarzyna Klimasinska

May 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu signaled his lack of confidence in the industry experts trying to control BP Plc’s leaking oil well by hand-picking a team of scientists with reputations for creative problem solving.

Dispatched to Houston by President Barack Obama to deal with the crisis, Chu said Wednesday that five “extraordinarily intelligent” scientists from around the country will help BP and industry experts think of back-up plans to cut off oil from the well, leaking 5,000 feet (1,500 meters) below sea-level.

Members of the Chu team are credited with accomplishments including designing the first hydrogen bomb, inventing techniques for mining on Mars and finding a way to precisely position biomedical needles.

“I don’t think there is a lot of confidence in BP in Washington right now,” David Pursell, a managing director at Tudor Pickering Holt & Co. LLC in Houston, said by phone. Chu’s decision to bring in additional scientists may reflect that concern, he said.

BP’s effort to use robots on the seafloor to close off the well failed, and a 40-foot steel structure meant to cap the leak was scuttled when the containment box became clogged with an icy slush of seawater and gas. BP now is deliberating between using a smaller containment chamber to control the well or inserting a tube directly into the leaking pipe to channel the oil.

Chu said he’s tasked his team to develop “plan B, C, D, E and F” in addition to finding a way to stop the oil leak.

“Things are looking up, and things are getting much more optimistic,” the Nobel-prize winning physicist said after meeting with the scientists and BP in Houston Wednesday.

rest http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ao_GFutnMAHY

[Gita]

Very interesting article

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Chu said he’s tasked his team to develop “plan B, C, D, E and F” in addition to finding a way to stop the oil leak.

Sounds like they have no idea what they are doing if they need that many plans in place!:rolleyes:

[Solphilos]

If this was set up as some news i have read ... can anyone think of a reason they would do this?

We could never really make a good guess, but if we look back to all the conspiracy theories over the years, we can see some sort of picture of possible motives, assuming that TPTB were behind this.
At this point though, we don't know if it was intentional, an attack of some sort, or due to the earth changes that are not being spoken about.

For one, the if that vast cavern of methane were to continue leaking without being stopped, well, there are numerous scenarios possible, but most of them would be considered Endgame.
If it were to blow, by let's say a nuke being used to try and fix the leak, we are talking an explosion of a magnitude the world has never seen, at least in our current civilization. Mega-tsunamis for the gulf coast states, methane poisoning millions or more, continental shift due to possible sea-floor collapse, earthquakes, etc. etc.

This could certainly fit in with the population reduction scenario. It makes me think of that one particular mural in the Denver airport; the one that shows a scene with a flaming forest and city in the background, extinct animals in glass cases, and the coffins with the bodies of black woman, a native american woman, and a little white girl bearing judeo-christian symbolism.
Could this be symbolic for the death of America? After all, the American population consists mainly of caucasians, african-americans, and those of native american/mexican decent.

However, who knows what the real intentions are here.
We know this thing is a disaster with great potential to destroy many human and animal lives. I live on the Gulf coast myself, and there has been more military movement than in previous times, so something is definitely going on here. I'm already selling things and trying to get money together to get out, as my intuition is telling me that it is going to get bad. I'm normally very calm and optimistic, but this thing has me bugged.

[stardustaquarion]

Sounds like they have no idea what they are doing if they need that many plans in place!:rolleyes:

Yeah but I think that there is more to it, otherwise why will they send the man that worked in the Mars project?

Just a thought

:love:

[Solphilos]

Heres something I found that might be worth checking out:

From http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda21_05.shtml


5.2. Demographic trends and factors and sustainable development have a synergistic relationship.

5.3. The growth of world population and production combined with unsustainable consumption patterns places increasingly severe stress on the life-supporting capacities of our planet. These interactive processes affect the use of land, water, air, energy and other resources. Rapidly growing cities, unless well-managed, face major environmental problems. The increase in both the number and size of cities calls for greater attention to issues of local government and municipal management. The human dimensions are key elements to consider in this intricate set of relationships and they should be adequately taken into consideration in comprehensive policies for sustainable development. Such policies should address the linkages of demographic trends and factors, resource use, appropriate technology dissemination, and development. Population policy should also recognize the role played by human beings in environmental and development concerns. There is a need to increase awareness of this issue among decision makers at all levels and to provide both better information on which to base national and international policies and a framework against which to interpret this information.

5.4. There is a need to develop strategies to mitigate both the adverse impact on the environment of human activities and the adverse impact of environmental change on human populations. The world's population is expected to exceed 8 billion by the year 2020. Sixty per cent of the world's population already live in coastal areas, while 65 per cent of cities with populations above 2.5 million are located along the world coasts; several of them are already at or below the present sea level.

[Gita]

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Gulf Oil 'SPILL' - What A Lie

'Spill? The corporate media continues to call the volcano of continuous gushing oil, in the Gulf, a spill. How insulting. A volcano that shoots out a million gallons of crude oil a week is hardly a spill.

The common definition of a spill is the liquid that fell out of a container, a one time occurrence, not a massive flow that has no known end. An oil tanker can spill oil; but not Mother Earth, who has been and still is continuously gushing oil from 35,000 feet from within her bowels.'

Read more: Gulf Oil 'SPILL' - What A Lie (http://rense.com/general90/spill.htm)

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Source (http://www.davidicke.com/headlines)

[lindabaker]

Sophilos: Good luck on your move away from the coast. If you can stay calm and in balance, you will find the right spot to rest. Let us know your progress. Linda in Georgia.

[Ruis]

If anyone was wondering why there was an appeal for hair (including pet hair ) heres why


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwQOD_Ir2vQ

[Solphilos]

Sophilos: Good luck on your move away from the coast. If you can stay calm and in balance, you will find the right spot to rest. Let us know your progress. Linda in Georgia.

Hi Linda, thank you for the kind words. I'm sure I'll be fine, as my intuition has always guided me well. I think the best advice for everyone is what you just mentioned here; to remain calm and in balance. As this and other events progress, I believe that things are going to get very real, and now it's more important than ever for us to remember why we are here, and who we are.

Balance at this time is of utmost importance, as when things start getting tough and the growing pains start, fear tends to find it's way into every nook and cranny of the unprepared mind.
Scary as it may be, I think that this is all part of the process. We have lived in an unbalanced state for far too long, and it will take something great to come a long and shake us by our ears in order for the collective to get the message. It's frightening, but it has to start somewhere.

[stardustaquarion]

Bad news today!

From the BBC

Monstrous underwater oil plumes found in US Gulf Coast
Veterinarians clean a pelican that was covered in oil at a Louisiana wildlife centre on 15 May 2010
The spill is poised to be the worst environmental disaster in US history

Scientists have found vast underwater plumes of oil, one 10 miles (16km) long and a mile wide, in the Gulf of Mexico, following last month's rig disaster.

A Georgia University expert warned oxygen levels had fallen 30% in some areas of the sea, and it could take decades to repair the damage.

BP is still trying to insert a tube into the gushing well to siphon the crude to a ship on the surface.

The US government has demanded BP make clear its commitment to pay damages.

Researchers from the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology say they have detected several sprawling oil slicks lurking just beneath the surface of the sea and at depths of 4,000ft (1,200m).

Dead zones

The find suggests the scale of the potential environmental disaster is much worse than previously feared since the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig blew up on 20 April, killing 11 workers.


We've never seen anything like this before - it's impossible to fathom the impact
Professor Samantha Joye
University of Georgia

Obama: No more cosying up to oil

Samantha Joye, a marine science professor at the University of Georgia, said: "It could take years, possibly decades, for the system to recover from an infusion of this quantity of oil and gas.

"We've never seen anything like this before. It's impossible to fathom the impact."

The experts say the oxygen depletion is likely to continue, endangering sea life and raising the prospect of underwater dead zones.

The scientists said the chemical dispersants BP has been dumping underwater may be preventing the oil from rising to the top of the ocean.

Official estimates doubted

The oil giant has said the chemicals, which it began deploying on Friday, have already resulted in less oil surfacing.

BP's battle with oil leak continues

Some scientists are casting doubt on official estimates of the oil flow rate, saying the widely repeated figure of 5,000 barrels per day dramatically understates the real amount.

On Saturday, BP failed in its latest attempt to thread a 6in-wide (15cm) tube into a damaged oil pipe a mile beneath the surface.

Like a long straw, it is intended to slurp oil to a ship on the surface, and a stopper surrounding it would stem the leaking crude.

The tube could capture more than three-quarters of the leak; BP must also contain a smaller spill on the seabed nearby.

A week ago, BP tried to cap the well with a 100-tonne box, but gave up after it became encrusted with ice crystals.

On Saturday, the Obama administration demanded immediate clarification from BP over its commitment to pay damages for the spill.

Officials said they wanted to be sure BP would honour commitments not to limit costs to a US statutory cap of $75m (£50m).

It is not clear what prompted the letter as BP said last week the cap was irrelevant and it would settle all costs.

Mississippi has become the third US state to have oil wash up on its coast, along with Louisiana and Alabama.

The spill is threatening to eclipse the 1989 Exxon Valdez leak off Alaska as America's worst environmental disaster.

Source http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8685368.stm

[Etherios]

it keeps striking me .... reminding me passages from the bibble... the sea will turn red? or was it the sea will die? this is getting really.... weird

[Northern Boy]

red and black are two different colours check the Hopi Prophecy where it says the sea will turn Black

* "This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.


"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."



"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."



"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron." The railroad



"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web." Chem trails



"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun." The fore telling of the nations highways



"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."



"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

[bluestflame]

was a mention of it somewhere the rig having drilled on a grid point , anyone have any info on this , if true way too coincidental

[stardustaquarion]

Boycot BP products until they fix the spill please

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[bluestflame]

BP insignia reminds me of that crop circle that looks like a pinecone , perhaps they were trying to warn us of something that was planned ?...I don't know how to do a side my side comparison

[Gita]

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Hiding the Truth: White House Allowed BP to Keep Video of Gushing Pipe from Public for Three Weeks wWJ6rFCmfoE

'The White House allowed BP to hide its video feed of a gushing oil pipe in the Gulf of Mexico from the public for three weeks, all the while that same video played live in the White House Situation Room, ABC reports.

This startling revelation comes just as Obama prepares to get really angry in public about the spill – just in time to cover up his administration’s collusion with BP to hide the true extent of the massive disaster in the Gulf.'

Read more: Hiding the Truth: White House Allowed BP to Keep Video of Gushing Pipe from Public for Three Weeks (http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19195)

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[stardustaquarion]

Not sorted yet but some hope

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[Fredkc]

This startling revelation comes just as Obama prepares to get really angry in public about the spill – just in time to cover up his administration’s collusion with BP to hide the true extent of the massive disaster in the Gulf.'

Obama is such a pathetic farce..... er.... light worker!

[Gita]

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Worry that Gulf oil spreading into major current

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Engineers finally figured out how to siphon some of the oil that has been spewing into the Gulf for almost a month, but it could be too late to stop the ooze from reaching a major ocean current that could carry it through the Florida Keys and up the East Coast.

After weeks of failed solutions, BP PLC crews on Sunday hooked up a mile-long tube to funnel the crude from a blown well into a tanker ship. However, millions of gallons of crude are already in the Gulf of Mexico.

A researcher told The Associated Press that computer models show the oil may have already seeped into a powerful water stream known as the loop current, which could propel it into the Atlantic Ocean. A boat is being sent later this week to collect samples and learn more.

"This can't be passed off as 'it's not going to be a problem,'" said William Hogarth, dean of the University of South Florida's College of Marine Science. "This is a very sensitive area. We are concerned with what happens in the Florida Keys."

BP PLC engineers remotely guiding robot submersibles had worked since Friday to place the tube into a 21-inch pipe nearly a mile below the sea. After several setbacks, it was working, though officials warned that it was too early to measure how much crude was being collected and acknowledged it was no panacea.

"It's a positive move, but let's keep in context," said Kent Wells, BP's senior vice president for exploration and production. "We're about shutting down the flow of oil from this well."

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[Gita]

Obama is such a pathetic farce..... er.... light worker!

When the king is right, the king is right.:thumb: :blink::laugh::pound:

[rhythm]

http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/armageddon-marcel-franquelin.jpg
so sad its hardley bearable somedays
when the ocean turns black ....
sure feels like armageden to me ..
and i never been a gloom n doomer ...
but im gettin real now ... wake theres no cofee brewing ...
just a world full a crazy ones ....

[JoshERTW]

was a mention of it somewhere the rig having drilled on a grid point , anyone have any info on this , if true way too coincidental

It doesn't appear to be on a grid point, but if you look at this image: GLOBAL GRID (http://divinecosmos.com/images/stories/bhpacificmts2.jpg)

And look at the location of the spill HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill)

It definitely looks like the spill is along a global grid-line (ley line?)

Have heard many descriptions of this spill being the bleeding of the earth - perhaps the global grid is her circulatory system?

[Lucid Jia]

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4296/spillnasamay17.jpg

[Gita]

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BP makes headway in Gulf of Mexico

Beleaguered oil major BP (BP-) received a much needed boost on Monday, after the group said it was making headway in its efforts to curb the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Shares in the FTSE 100-listed group rose 2.5% to 543.60p as the group announced it had finally started to siphon and store some of the oil leak through its riser insertion tube tool (RITT) containment system.

Almost four weeks after disaster first struck at the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig, in which 11 workers were killed, BP said the system was put into place on Sunday and operations began through the day to allow oil and gas to flow through the tube tool to the drillship Discover Enterprise 5,000 feet above.

"Produced oil is being stored on the drillship, while produced gas is being flared. It is expected that it will take some time to increase the flow through the system and maximise the proportion of oil and gas flowing through the broken riser that will be captured and transported to the drillship," a company statement said.

The RITT works by being inserted into the broken pipe that is the source of the main flow of oil from the MC252 wells and connecting it a drill pipe. It also injects methanol to stop the formation of ice crystals, which proved problematic in earlier attempts to deploy a containment dome.

The news came as a relief to investors, who have so far seen $30 billion knocked off the group's value, after an initial attempt to place a containment dome over the leak was suspended just over a week ago.

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[Gita]

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'Leaking Oil to Reach Atlantic Ocean'

http://davidicke.com/images/stories/May20103/golinejad20100517082040780.jpg

The oil spill from a British Petroleum (BP) sunken rig in the Gulf of Mexico may have reached a major current in the Atlantic Ocean, scientists say.

Computer models show the oil may have already entered a water stream, known as the 'loop current,' which could propel plumes of oil into the Atlantic Ocean, William Hogarth, a researcher at the University of South Florida's College of Marine Science said on Sunday, the Associated Press reported.

Other scientists, however, say that damage is already done and it is not clear how much more oil is to come.

"Obviously the quicker they plug this, the better, but they are already having a tremendous effect on the environment," said Paul Montagna, from the Harte Research Institute for Gulf of Mexico Studies in Texas.

Meanwhile, after many setbacks, BP managed to plug a tube into the ruptured wellhead on Sunday and partially funnel the crude into a tanker ship.

However, millions of liters of oil already in the Gulf of Mexico have endangered the ecosystem and environment.

The crisis started three weeks ago when the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and the wellhead, beneath it, ruptured. As a result of the incident, an estimated 5,000 barrels of oil is gushed into water everyday.

The leak, which is said to be spreading ten times faster than had been estimated, has already eclipsed the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill, as the worst environmental disaster in the United States.

http://presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=126772&sectionid=3510203

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[stardustaquarion]

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[Swami]

There are undersea bases in the Gulf of Mexico...


They switched the crew at the last minute and then they sent these S.W.A.T. teams in...

Source (https://sites.google.com/site/themandjitmatrixgroup/zenbuoy)

[stardustaquarion]

There are undersea bases in the Gulf of Mexico...



Source (https://sites.google.com/site/themandjitmatrixgroup/zenbuoy)

Thanks for the link Swami!

:wave:

[LeeEllisMusic]

I posted this on the Anglo Saxon Mission thread, but thought it important enough to post here as well. Looks like there is a connection. Apologies for the double post~ Moderators, what do you think?

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From Kerry Cassidy's blog today, May 18th, connecting the Gulf Oil gusher to the Anglo Saxon Mission:


It occurred to me that the oil spill had to be engineered from higher levels and my only question was, why? What did they hope to gain?

A source has contacted me to reveal the following:

Apparently, a faulty gasket was installed and allowed to fail. The ultimate objective has to do with the movement of the North Atlantic conveyer... In the end, what we have here is a move in the chess game of Weather Wars.

From Wikipedia:

"It is believed that North Atlantic Deep Water formation has been dramatically reduced at times during the past (such as during the Younger Dryas or during Heinrich events), and that this might correlate with a decrease in the strength of the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic drift, in turn cooling the climate of northwestern Europe..."

Although the exact way this will play out is unclear. However, the gist of it all is that the spill moving up the Northeast coast of the U.S. will head toward Iceland (what is it about Iceland that is such a trigger point/focus for things at this time one wonders) and then over to Europe. Result? Further cooling of the UK and North Europe and destruction of the fisheries industries in those areas, plunging Europe into food shortages and economic turmoil.

What this source said is that this is all part of the very long range plan to roll out the Anglo-Saxon Mission. Large contingents are making plans to go off-world and elsewhere in the long run.

This source also cited the movie KNOWING as containing a precursor event very similar to the actual oil rig explosion in the Gulf... this info is all over the net. See this YouTube video clip from the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmgeA3dr2uY

Coincidence? I think not. This is called fore shadowing. An Illuminati signature move.

So what do we have? More volcanic rumblings in Iceland, further predictions of ash in the skies affecting travel... How does this serve the 'masters' you have to ask and the answer is obvious. People are limited, can't move around a freely etc. etc.

The endgame is they are moving toward population thinning and control. This is all part of it.

[Gita]

Thanks Lee for posting this.:thumb: It’s very relevant and it ties in with one of my earlier posts. From what I remember if the salt ratio of the North Atlantic conveyer is diluted significantly, then the circulation will have a huge impact on our planet and our climate which of course will have a devastating domino effect. TBTB sure know what they are doing. The prices of food and gas have already sky rocketed and we are on the brink of hyperinflation. They seem to be attacking from every direction and don’t care what they have to do to achieve their goals.

http://www.muchapedia.com/image-files/global-conveyor-belt.jpg

[Swami]

Thanks Lee for posting this.:thumb: It’s very relevant and it ties in with one of my earlier posts. From what I remember if the salt ratio of the North Atlantic conveyer is diluted significantly, then the circulation will have a huge impact on our planet and our climate which of course will have a devastating domino effect. TBTB sure know what they are doing. The prices of food and gas have already sky rocketed and we are on the brink of hyperinflation. They seem to be attacking from every direction and don’t care what they have to do to achieve their goals.

http://www.muchapedia.com/image-files/global-conveyor-belt.jpg

Could that oil, which does not reach the surface, slow down ocean-currents....?

[Gita]

I don't know for sure Swami but as guess it might dilute the salt level which will be a disaster worldwide. If this was done on purpose then who knows what else they are pumping in the sea without our knowledge. At this point I just wouldn't put anything past them. I do hope this isn't the case though.

[Tuza]

I would say based on above, the earthquakes around the planet, evidence of our bee population decreasing everywhere and locusts down here in plague proportions that the **** has hit and is spreading. Game on, only it ain't chess.

[Swami]

Once this oil leaves the Gulf of Mexico, on deep level, it will spread around the world with the Conveyor Belt...

I propose, Close off the Gulf of Mexico NOW......

[Rocky_Shorz]

well Germany stopped short sales today on their stock market which immediately hit the banks because their best investments are predicting the losers since they are the ones coming to them for loans to survive... I still want to know who first Shorted the Gulf disaster at Goldman Sachs that caught the bankers attention to join them...

Now the 20 miles by 3 miles block of sludge is moving into the loop and is heading straight for UK by way of the east coast and Canada. Yesterday I heard after all this mess BP is just going to cap it and walk away they've decided to let the well go after all the problems they have had.

The only good to come out of this is BP has started an incredible push towards clean energy...

We had a Freemason (Grand Pu baa) join us and many watching heard what we asked for, now it seems they have started moving into action...

The head of Turner broadcasting has stood up against oil companies and is starting the push into clean energy. I'm looking forward to seeing new programs starting immediately and hopefully will put up some of his Billions into making things happen.

For the sake of the future of our planet let's all try harder than ever for new answers and to push the crusty old dogs that have been stopping progress aside...

[bluestflame]

interesting , pumping dispersants in to reduce surface oil yet masking the oil that's filling the ocean floors 5 mile depth is a lot of oil , anyone seen the movie "the day after tomorrow" , if this accident is no accident maybe they're looking to interrupt the ocean currents , hitching a ride on the colder lower currents

then we have food , weather involved
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

if these same principles are applied to oil and not fresh water , ...have you ever went to jump into a warm bath with just a little oil?...

just thinking independantly and exploring ideas , intuitions

[Gita]

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Criminal Negligence: Despite Knowing It Had a Damaged Blowout Preventer, BP STILL Cut Corners By Removing the Single Most Important Safety Measure

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May20103/bp.jpg

'UC Berkeley engineering professor Bob Bea told 60 Minutes that a damaged blowout preventer not only may lead to a catastrophic accident like the Gulf oil spill, but leads to inaccurate pressure readings, so that the well operator doesn't know the real situation, and cannot keep the rig safe.

Bea also said that - despite the damage - BP ordered the rig operator to ignore an even more critical safety measure. Specifically, BP ordered the rig operator to remove the "drilling mud" - a heavy liquid used to keep oil and gas from escaping - before the well was sealed. According to Bea, the accident would not have occurred had drilling mud been used.'

Read more: Criminal Negligence: Despite Knowing It Had a Damaged Blowout Preventer, BP STILL Cut Corners By Removing the Single Most Important Safety Measure (http://uruknet.info/?p=m66092&hd=&size=1&l=e)

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[Gita]

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OBAMA'S HOSTILITY TO BP AND BRITAIN IS AN INSULT

WHY does President Obama despise BP so much that he’s rude and aggressive towards it? Well, it’s not because of the P for Petroleum in the company’s name – it’s because of the B for British.
Naturally the President is worried about the potential effects of the oil spill on America’s Gulf Coast beaches. We’d feel the same if it were happening off Land’s End. But his enmity towards BP goes much deeper. Obama is the most anti-British President in modern American history.

The BBC’s Washington correspondent Mark Mardell summed it up so bluntly that you could almost hear his Barack-loving bosses wincing: “This is a disaster but Obama is trying to ensure it isn’t his disaster. He doesn’t want this oil spill to wash up on the shores of the White House.”
So what better way than to bash the Brits and paint BP as the villain of the piece.

Let me redress the balance. BP is one of the world’s greatest companies and is universally admired for the way it has expanded the barriers of oil and gas exploration. Some of its engineering feats staged in environments that are more hostile than the moon rank among the wonders of the modern world and six months ago BP was named the world’s most environmentally sustainable exploration company.

The disaster on the Deepwater Horizon rig, in which 11 workers died, was tragic but surprisingly un-usual considering the hazards of drilling for oil. The response of BP engineers was swift but sadly their ingenuity was not rewarded by success. The attempt to drop a 100-ton box on the leaking well-head was thwarted when ice crystals formed around it in the freezing depths.

Now it seems as if BP has succeeded in using eight robot submarines to push a six-inch wide pipe into the well, siphoning oil and gas to a giant tanker above. BP boss Tony Hayward has likened the operation’s complexity to the Apollo 13 space rescue.

But all President Obama is concerned about is being seen to make BP pay. Not one word about BP’s remarkable attempts to staunch the flow – indeed Obama’s officials go so far as to say this is “not the solution to the problem”.

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[stardustaquarion]

Thank you Gita for the info

This is what I got from wikipedia

BP plc is a British global energy company that is also the third largest global energy company and the 4th largest company in the world. As a multinational oil company ("oil major") BP is the UK's largest corporation, with its headquarters in St James's, City of Westminster, London.[2][3][4] BP America's headquarters is in the Two Westlake Park in the Energy Corridor area of Houston, Texas. The company is among the largest private sector energy corporations in the world, and one of the six "supermajors" (vertically integrated private sector oil exploration, natural gas, and petroleum product marketing companies).[5] The company is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 100 Index.
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So it is not really British per se, most of the operations of BP are somewhere else that the UK, in any case they were negligent so it is fare to ask them to clean up their mess. Why is it that no one feels anything for the animals and the plants that have been sacrificed by BP's greed orgy?

I wonder what the british people will say when the oil spill reaches the coasts of the Scilly Islands and St Ives which may do this summer

[Gita]

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Purposely Killing the Gulf?

The private, foreign International Monetary/Banking Cartel controls its puppets in Washington as it controls its oil company executives. And everything the Cartel does is anti-life, there are absolutely no exceptions; and their pretended Gulf oil clean-up is a glaring case in point.
By J. Speer-Williams, 5-17-10

Instead of cleaning up the unprecedented catastrophe created by the Cartel's mega-corporations (Halliburton, Transocean, and British Petroleum), these very same companies seem to be purposely killing our Gulf of Mexico, under the pretense of cleaning it up.

Instead of using safe, non-toxic ways to gather up the rogue oil gushing from their incompetence, or planned cataclysm, the private Cartel is using an extremely toxic chemical dispersant, with the approval of the Obama administration.

Alan Levine, the head of Louisiana's Department of Health and Hospitals, said: "We don't have any data or evidence behind the use of these chemicals in the water. We're now basically using one of the richest ecosystems in the world as a laboratory."

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¤=[Post Update]=¤

Latest satellite picture of Gulf of Mexico.

http://i41.tinypic.com/5cyfrp.jpg

http://www.flashearth.com/

[Etherios]

isnt that golf where atlantis was supposed to have sunk? maybe all these is just a cover for other things they are doing?

[Robstar]

OBAMA'S HOSTILITY TO BP AND BRITAIN IS AN INSULT

Nature sure seems insulted.:sick:

[stardustaquarion]

I know she is not 100 pct correct but the idea is right, vote with your wallet, boycot all corporations, buy local, buy fairtrade, buy products that have no/little packaging, demand bio degradable carrier bags, join barter clubs, join transition towns initiatives, conserve, recycle, re-use, join free-cycle, etc

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they are about 10,000 we are billions! Every little counts:rockon:

[stardustaquarion]

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[Gita]

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Gas Leak 3000 Times Worse Than Oil
By innereye
5-18-10

There is 3000 times more natural gas coming out of the leak than oil. The damage of the massive amounts of Gas being released into the gulf is worse than the oil.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIX
WYBTpLtSayJtg41LKXpxSxVPAD9FO07J00

Oxygen levels in some areas have dropped 30 percent, and should continue to drop, Joye said.
"It could take years, possibly decades, for the system to recover from an infusion of this quantity of oil and gas," Joye said. "We've never seen anything like this before. It's impossible to fathom the impact."

The Federal Minerals Management Service (MMS) contracted a study to see how badly a deep water drilling oil spill would deplete the gulf of oxygen. this study underestimated the current leak by a factor of 26. It was NOT peer reviewed and did not consider that the damage would occur at depth greater than 700 meters. In other words, the determination of the potential impact of deep water drilling on the ecosystem by the federal agency that regulates these activities was a TOTAL SHAM.

The Gulf oxygen depletion zone or "Dead Zone" has been documented by environmentalists over the last 20 years.

http://www.rense.com/general90/coast.jpg

This satellite image from NOAA is from 2008. The dead zone typically grows in the summer.

Scientists in Pennsylvania report that boosting production of crops used to make biofuels could make a difficult task to shrink a vast, oxygen-depleted "dead zone" in the Gulf of Mexico more difficult. The zone, which reached the size of Massachusetts in 2008, forms in summer and threatens marine life and jobs in the region. Their study is scheduled for the Oct. 1 issue of ACS' semi-monthly journal Environmental Science & Technology.


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[Gita]

The REAL REASON Behind the BP Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico – 2010 ....or at least maybe part of it!

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[Gita]

Oil spill trajectory 20100504

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[rhythm]

hi gita thanks for all the reserch that you do
appreciated indeed .....

[Gita]

You are most welcomed Rhythm. I think I should send you there to sort them all out. :laugh:x

[Rocky_Shorz]

That was from the 8th, I'm afraid it has moved quite a bit further in the last 10 days, they are saying it will be in the loop by this weekend...

http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/31/2010/05/19/320x240/oilloopcurrent2.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://ocg6.marine.usf.edu/~liu/Drifters/rtofs27.png

on the 22nd it enters the current that is moving a billion gallons an hour...

Which means you have about 2 weeks to get out and enjoy Maine lobster, it might be the last chance for 40+ years...

[JoshERTW]

they are about 10,000 we are billions! Every little counts:rockon:

You said it, I'm trying to do this exact thing as much as I can. I am gona put a big patch on my backpack for the bike to work - "Fight Big Oil - Ride your Bike!"

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://ocg6.marine.usf.edu/~liu/Drifters/rtofs27.png



This is an image of what is coming in 3 days...

and this is the Atlantic currents to give you an idea of where it is going from there

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/McGrawHill/Encyclopedia/images/CE058700FG0010.gif

[Rocky_Shorz]

You said it, I'm trying to do this exact thing as much as I can. I am gona put a big patch on my backpack for the bike to work - "Fight Big Oil - Ride your Bike!"

what is the penalty for setting off a Weapon of Mass Destruction that will affect every human on this planet?

Hey Bush we found what you were looking for...

WMD = BP

[bluestflame]

the masses haven't realized just how big this is yet

[Eligos]

YES!!! Totally agree.

[HORIZONS]

Its here:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/19/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T2

[norman]

Black Bloody Biblical.

[Gita]

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US oil spill 'enters Loop Current' with Florida at risk

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/47882000/jpg/_47882728_009325468-1.jpg
Oil has been gushing out of the blown-out well for almost a month

The first oil from the Gulf of Mexico spill has entered an ocean current that could take it to Florida and up the east coast of the US, scientists say.
A "small portion" of oil sheen is in the Loop Current, which circulates in the Gulf, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said.
Diluted oil could appear in isolated parts of Florida if persistent winds pushed the current that way, it added.
European scientists warn the spill could reach Florida within six days.
Oil has been spewing into the Gulf since the offshore drilling rig Deepwater Horizon, leased by oil giant BP, exploded off the coast of Louisiana on 20 April and sank two days later.
Powerful currents
Satellite images released by the European Space Agency (ESA) depict a streak of oil stretching south from the main slick into the Loop Current - a body of fast-flowing water coming from the Caribbean which the agency says is likely to propel oil towards Florida within six days.

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Scientists at the NOAA, the US government's own climate body, broadly share that analysis, but say the oil is a "light sheen" representing just a small portion of the overall amount.
The oil would be "highly weathered" if it reached Florida, or could evaporate en route, it said.

The scientists warned that the turbulent Loop Current could mix the oil and water, making it difficult to track the oil's progress in the coming days.

Meanwhile, the US Coast Guard said tests showed that tar balls that washed up on Florida beaches in recent days had not originated from the oil spill off Louisiana.
It is unclear where the tar balls came from, Coast Guard officials said. 'Very scary'

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Red blobs of oil floating four miles offshore

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There is a sense that this has gone on for a really long time without a solution. I think people are eagerly watching BP to see if this weekend they will actually be able to seal off the well using a couple of the techniques they’ve been talking about – the "top-kill" or the "junk shot." BP announced this afternoon that they hoped to start the "top-kill" procedures by Sunday.

The "top-kill" method is where they shove mud into the well to stop the flow of oil. And the "junk shot" is where they put plastic, pieces of rubber and golf balls into the blowout preventer to clog it up and seal it with cement to stop the leak.

Hopefully, one of those methods will stop the leak, but one thing I’ve noticed is that incrementally, every day, the situation seems to get worse.
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On the island of Key West, south of Florida, coastguard officials said about three tar balls an hour were washing up on the beaches of a state park. They said the globs of concentrated oil suggest leaking crude has now become caught up in the powerful loop current and could move from the gulf up to the Atlantic coast.

Meanwhile, an oceanographic research ship reported sighting a 10km (six-mile) plume lurking at depths below 1,000 metres and invisible from the surface. The evidence of spreading environmental damage grew even more compelling with the release of fresh video showing thick clouds of oil billowing from the ruptured well.

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