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tkh123186
19th April 2011, 16:30
I came across this article earlier and it reminded me of what Onyxknight(MIA?) wrote about ET's seeing colors in different wavelengths etc. Interesting stuff!

Researchers suggest that vegetation on an alien planet like Tatooine in "Star Wars" might well look black or gray to human eyes. But they probably wouldn’t seem devoid of color to the eyes of the aliens — assuming they have eyes, that is.
The conjecture comes from a paper presented by the University of St. Andrews' Jack O'Malley-James at the Royal Astronomical Society's National Astronomy Meeting in Wales. O'Malley-James is working on a Ph.D. project to assess the potential for photosynthetic life in multiple-star systems with different combinations of sunlike stars and red dwarfs.

On Earth, the leaves of plants generally look green because two types of chlorophyll absorb the reddish and bluish wavelengths in the visible-light spectrum. Those red and blue wavelengths drive the photosynthetic process by which plants convert the sun's energy into chemical energy. In contrast, the green wavelengths are reflected into the RGB optical sensors known as our eyes.
Scientists surmise that the birds and bugs may see plants quite differently, with greater sensitivity to different shades of green and the ability to sense ultraviolet wavelengths as well.
O'Malley-James suggests that in different corners of our galaxy, plants could evolve to take advantage of different combinations of wavelengths, depending on the light coming from their parent sun ... or suns. The possibilities become particularly intriguing for a planet in a multiple-star system — like Tatooine, Luke Skywalker's fictional home planet in the "Star Wars" movie saga.

On planets orbiting red-dwarf stars, the vegetation may have more photosynthetic pigments in order to make use of a fuller range of wavelengths, giving them a "black" appearance. Here are some earthly examples of dark plants and flowers.
"If a planet were found in a system with two or more stars, there would potentially be multiple sources of energy available to drive photosynthesis. The temperature of a star determines its color and, hence, the color of light used for photosynthesis. Depending on the colors of their starlight, plants would evolve very differently," he said in a news release. Statistics show that more than 25 percent of sunlike stars and 50 percent of the red dwarfs in our galaxy are found in multiple-star systems. Armed with such statistics, O'Malley-James and his colleagues ran computer simulations to determine the optimal strategy for photosynthesis over a wide spectrum (heh, heh) of planetary alignments.

“Our simulations suggest that planets in multi-star systems may host exotic forms of the more familiar plants we see on Earth," O'Malley-James reported. "Plants with dim red dwarf suns for example, may appear black to our eyes, absorbing across the entire visible wavelength range in order to use as much of the available light as possible. They may also be able to use infrared or ultraviolet radiation to drive photosynthesis. For planets orbiting two stars like our own, harmful radiation from intense stellar flares could lead to plants that develop their own UV-blocking sunscreens, or photosynthesizing microorganisms that can move in response to a sudden flare."
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But even if the plants reflected none of the visible-light wavelengths, extraterrestrial gardeners might well have their own special appreciation for an ultraviolet bloom, or leaves that are variegated in the thermal infrared.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/18/6490381-alien-trees-just-might-look-black - source

Carmody
19th April 2011, 17:30
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-solar-power-cells-hidden-magnetic.html

TigaHawk
19th April 2011, 20:52
For planets orbiting two stars like our own, harmful radiation from intense stellar flares could lead to plants that develop their own UV-blocking sunscreens, or photosynthesizing microorganisms that can move in response to a sudden flare."
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/18/6490381-alien-trees-just-might-look-black - source

Wha.... *scratches head*

Dennis Jonathan
19th April 2011, 22:57
Interesting paper.

It would be really interesting if he explored the possible alternative vegetational response to a waterless ecosystem.

Carmody
20th April 2011, 03:55
In my First..total life recall (birth to death)....I was a grey skinned alien (but it was natural in that life, obviously!) who lived the life of a slave type being. Basically a genetically derived or similar system where they have serfs and masters, to a large degree. That world was stagnated and dying. The social and cultural stucture was killing it. No invention, no change, no growth. I remember going to them and trying to get them to 'look to the stars!' etc. the kind of rubbish we keep hearing here, today, on this planet. :p

I was wasting my time, I died at the age of about 40 of our years, worn out, exhausted from the constant beatings and derision for my views and actions. I died lost, broken, and torn down.. Fried. I think I took quite a break after that one.

The sun or star was dim, small and bluish with tons of UV light.

I was 13 when I had this recall, this total 'birth to death' total life recall.

The plants I worked in the fields...they were ruby black in color, overall.

Hervé
20th April 2011, 04:58
....I was a grey skinned alien (but it was natural in that life, obviously!) who lived the life of a slave type being. The sun or star was dim, small and bluish with tons of UV light.

Waow... you mean that at least ONE grey alien had some kind of a soul... a Carmody modified one! So much for the "soulless" grey robotoids, then.

Zepheriah
21st April 2011, 07:31
For planets orbiting two stars like our own, harmful radiation from intense stellar flares could lead to plants that develop their own UV-blocking sunscreens, or photosynthesizing microorganisms that can move in response to a sudden flare."
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/18/6490381-alien-trees-just-might-look-black - source

Wha.... *scratches head*

I read it and scratched my head as well!

I read it through a couple more times to see if i'd misread it and think i may have an answer for what they guy seems to be suggesting.

I don't think he is refering to our planet orbiting two stars, i think he might mean "a" planet orbiting two stars that were similar to ours.

I may be wrong, but reading it again i think the second of the interpretations is the correct one.

gardunk
21st April 2011, 16:52
do not forget Alcyone with which we dance...