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astrid
24th April 2011, 07:31
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"One of the earliest of documented sightings of aerial phenomena took place on April 4, 1561 at dawn over Nuremberg, Germany. What was described as a war in the heavens, with a wide variety of craft ranging from spheres to spear-like cylinders to crosses and "plates". The sky was apparently filled with the machines, clashing in battle for well over an hour. The battle was such that a winner was perceived as well. Spheroid UFOs were seen emerging from cylindrical 'motherships'. At the conclusion of the battle, it seems a magnificent, black, spear-like super-ship of some kind came upon the scene. An ancient woodcut (click image to view full-size picture) was created by Hans Glaser to document the event. A second woodcut was created by an unknown artist (see below) that depicts the same event.

The woodcut shows two people apparently witnessing the event. Hundreds of oddly shaped and colorful objects fill the sky above. The woodcut also seems to indicate that two of the objects may have crashed to the ground (bottom right in the above picture).

It began at dawn, as dozens, if not hundreds, of crosses, globes and tubes fought each other above the city. It ended an hour later, when "the globes in the small and large rods flew into the sun," and several of the other objects crashed to earth and vanished in a thick cloud of smoke. According to the Nuremberg Gazette, the "dreadful apparition" filled the morning sky with "cylindrical shapes from which emerged black, red, orange and blue-white spheres that darted about." Between the spheres, there were "crosses with the color of blood." (i.e. red crosses) This "frightful spectacle" was witnessed by "numerous men and women." Afterwards, a "black, spear-like object" appeared.

The author of the Gazette warned its readers:

The God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Annunciation with St. Emidius Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that he avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may, temporarily here and perpetually there, live as His children.

A similar reporting occurred just five years later in Basle Switzerland. On August 7, 1566, at dawn, many citizens of Basle (Switzerland), frightened, saw during several hours the black spheres involved in a formidable aerial battle, invading the sky of their city: The city's gazette recorded:

At the time when the sun rose, one saw many large black balls which moved at high speed in the air towards the sun, then made half-turns, banging one against the others as if they were fighting a battle out a combat, a great number of them became red and igneous, thereafter they were consumed and died out.

It should be pointed out that the descriptions and woodcuts are attempts by artists nearly 500 years ago, to depict an event that they potentially could not comprehend. Some have pointed out that the woodcuts and descriptions of the event sound very much like a modern day "dogfight" between planes of opposing forces. The black circles in the woodcut look very similar to explosions in the sky as photographed by World War II reporters. In addition, the cross shaped vehicles look very similar to the profile of a World War II fighter ascending in a steep climb. As such, some have proposed that the events witnessed were actually old World War II battles and that some sort of slip in space/time allowed the 16th century town to witness an event that would not occur for another 400 years.

To date, the only original source we've discovered that recorded this incident is the 1958 book, A Modern Myth: things seen in the skies (Ein moderner Mythus Von Dingen, die am Himmel gesehen werden)."

Fascinating...

crosby
24th April 2011, 08:58
i imagine that way back then, fear and curiosity ruled the day during this event. i wonder what would occur in today's world, if we were too see such things? more importantly, i wonder what the news would say........thanks astrid. very informative.
warmest, corson

astrid
25th April 2011, 02:29
Here is another similar story from Basel, Switzerland in 1566.
Again depicted in the artwork of the day....

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case485.htm

http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/pictures/BaselWoodcutting.jpg

"A 16th century woodcutting depicts a scene in which dark spheres were witnessed hovering over the town of Basel, Switzerland in 1566.

On August 7, 1566, at dawn, many citizens of Basel (Switzerland), frightened, saw during several hours the black spheres involved in a formidable aerial battle, invading the sky of their city: "at the time when the sun rose, one saw many large black balls which moved at high speed in the air towards the sun, then made half-turns, banging one against the others as if they were fighting a battle out a combat, a great number of them became red and igneous, thereafter they were consumed and died out," wrote Samuel Coccius, the student in "crowned writings and liberal arts" who consigned the strange events in the city's gazette. "

Arpheus
25th April 2011, 03:19
This war been going on for ages and its still an ongoing thing,would be interesting if it happened again in todays age,the problem is we have no way to discern who are the good guys from the bad guys tho.

astrid
25th April 2011, 05:44
I wonder also if back then, more people were able to see more inter-dimensionally than most of us can today.

Billiam
27th April 2011, 11:47
I wonder also if back then, more people were able to see more inter-dimensionally than most of us can today.
There are stories that the native americans could not see the ships of the colonialists when they arrived because they did not exist before in their culture.. It is an interesting question what we can and cannot see, what we choose to see and what we subconciously ignore... In the old scottish legends it seemed common place to communicate with spirits/ the wee folk/ the dead... Of course many were hung for their beliefs or abilities but exactly how much is lost/ forgotten and how much is due to vibrational changes... There are interesting experiments with certain types of UV cameras and the like that show much more than can be seen with the naked eye... It is an excellent question Astrid, perhaps one that deserves its own thread...

Atlas
12th October 2014, 12:01
A serious attempt to debunk the case:
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Source: http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/nuremburg-ufo-battle-debunked/