David Icke,Alex Jones,Stewart Swerdlow - Chemtrails,bloody everywhere!!

[ktlight]

Is it a cloud? Is it a contrail? . .NO it`s another chemtrail!
Spraying us like cockcroaches!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FsE2QsUk2c

[Snowbird]

I really took notice when David Icke told the story of a woman here in the states who told him about she, her husband, their son and his partner all/each having the very same vivid dream of Obama being such a great guy. Of course, Obama is in deep stuff politically, morally and spiritually and is desperate to regain hold over this country in the 2012 election.

I normally don't remember my dreams, but recently I have been having really vivid and strange dreams...fortunately not of Obama. Icke said that it is the pineal gland that is being targeted. We're being mind-controlled while sleeping.

But yes, I have to agree that they are spraying us like roaches. Practically everywhere one looks there are chemtrails.

[MariaDine]

Aerospace Engineer, Coen Vermeeren performs a peer review the 300 page scientific assessment of Chemtrails commissioned by the Belfort group referres to as "Case Orange


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0JhrDgepyk

Namasté

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ePmTcEy_bE&feature=related

[Realeyes]

I took these photos at 7am on Sunday 1st May from my garden. I live not far from London and read on Kerry's blog about the UK being bombarded with chemtrails. This is a most unusual sky!?!

Just wondered if these are chemtrails in the photos - or just contrails - anyone know?

Fingers crossed, I hope my photos show up on this post ;)

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[john.d]

they are hammering the chemtrails in the north of england today ! We have had a few weeks off (probably because of the german reptilian wedding) . I wonder if the weather will take a turn for the worse now ?

John

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[Amer]

The first two minutes are interesting in this take by a former FBI chief, who mentions specific air-bases from which the planes are flying out of; surely it would then be possible to verify the fact ?

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[Some Bloke]

This is a photo of stuff falling out of the sky following two weeks of 'trailing just prior to the harvest,
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[ghostrider]

until we know for certain, we should demand our gov officials stop the spraying now. may be time for a little protest/sign/ t-shirt and vote them all out if spraying continues. We must take action and start at the airports. I'm thinking out loud. please avalon I'm open to your input, we must stop them NOW.

[Some Bloke]

Oh yeah, just thought I might repost this, chem and con trails separating , saw this and dashed for my camera,
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[Gardener]

Here's my take on the chemtrails, purely based on observation.
For a long time I simply didn't believe there was anything more sinister than these were 'aeroplane exhaust trails'. What I failed to grasp was this is a new phenomena so why do we get these very long non dispersing trails criss-crossing the sky?

Fact 1. We never used to get them until late 70's/ early 80's. Why?
Fact 2. Even in high pressure conditions.
Fact 3. They have specific patterning, lot of lines but only usually one specific A shape. (the dispersant?)

Fred, the level of passion in your posts is palpable, in fact, to me it doesn't even sound like 'you'.

Personally even though I listen to and read 'official stuff' I realise there is always a lot of spinola, it is usually to justify the funding for the enquiry or research, not the truth as we would like to hear it. I have done a lot of statistical research and I know how easy it is for data to be skewed for a miriad of reasons. Even the simple 'research question' may be way off even experimenter bias. Personal perception is often coloured by experience so my observations of chemtrails may be biased also. As may yours of the document you strongly promote.

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[White Phoenix]

These are some questions I ask myself when I think about chemtrails...

When I was a kid these lingering trails didn't appear in the sky, so why have they started to do so in the last 15 years?

Unless I'm mistaken, emissions from plane fuel releases more than just water molecules in to the atmosphere. So what other elements are released?

Presumably these elements don't fly off in to space, so how long do they stay floating around in the atmosphere?

I assume that some of these chemicals are relatively heavy elements, so they'll make their way down to ground level eventually (or maybe they just catch a ride with the next rain shower). What effect would these elements have on the health of humans, other animals, plants and soil?

What would be the effect of long term exposure to these elements?

I'd be interested to hear how someone from the "we shouldn't be concerned about chemtrails" camp would answer these questions.

[observer]

Each separate photo on this website (below) is a link to further evidence in this 'chemtrail' story:

http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?w=4&c=4&p=14&n=1&m=-1&z=3&x=0

I would challenge any body to refute this evidence.

This argument debunking the chemtrail phenomenon is a waste of the forum's time....

[ThePythonicCow]

I have removed a substantial portion of this thread to a separate thread: Chemtrails don't exist (Fred259's Chemtrail Thread) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20503-Chemtrails-don-t-exist-%28Fred259-s-Chemtrail-Thread%29). See my opening remarks in Post #1 of that thread for further details.

[Calz]

I have removed a substantial portion of this thread to a separate thread: Chemtrails don't exist (Fred259's Chemtrail Thread) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20503-Chemtrails-don-t-exist-%28Fred259-s-Chemtrail-Thread%29). See my opening remarks in Post #1 of that thread for further details.

Thank you for that MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOve Cow. :crazy_pilot:

[ThePythonicCow]

Thank you for that MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOve Cow. :crazy_pilot:
You're most welcome :).

[john.d]

http://www.flightradar24.com/

Very handy for seeing whats in the sky near you :-)

John

[observer]

Thank you Paul. Your 'move' to separate the two subjects is much appreciated.

As I pointed-out in comment #13 of this thread, the evidence is simply overwhelming to a covert operation with the intention of depopulating the planet (the eugenics movement). This operation is manifest in all sorts of black-ops programs - the CHEMTRAIL phenomenon just being one of these such programs.

The subject of contrails being an atmospheric condition (although a valid explanation) is simply not sound enough to refute the overwhelming amount of evidence (having nothing to do with atmospheric conditions) supporting a covert program to spray the population.

The notion that the CHEMTRAIL issue is simply a disinformation campaign designed to confuse the population is utter nonsense, and should be (very well) kept in a separate thread - where those interested in reading about that concept can waste there time to their hearts content.

For those of the members having any further doubt (after reviewing the evidence presented in comment #13) here are a few more links that support the CHEMTRAIL evidence:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hesBizPRBoU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hesBizPRBoU&feature=related

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygnBs4Rb8p0&feature=related

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmwMwLIAjcE&feature=related

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOsxtwJ_Pk&feature=related

This entire interview is worth listening to. The subject matter being discussed is extremely relevant to understanding (not only the CHEMTRAIL issue, but) most of what is going-on within the context of recent history.

Additionally, here is a link to House Bill #2977 taken directly from the The Library of Congress text:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:

Please take note of Section 7, 2(B)(ii)

[DoubleHelix]

I remember watching the trailer last year but wasn't sure if it had already been posted on Avalon.

Seems this thread's a nice home to place this video, For all the Believers and Non-believers (our beloved Fred259)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

[Gustav]

I can't help but thinking. There is talk about these chemtrails for years now. I know that it is not up to me to judge anyone, but here is the question i'm currently feel raised in my head.

If it is true, and has been proven that these chemtrails are real, when than is something done about it? There is a lot of talk, there is a good stir around the world that these practices are criminal, there are good arguments that people come up with pro and con, but I never hear ANY talk about, this is what we are going to do about it, this is how we are going to tackle the system. Or at least attempt it. And that worries me also. There has been lots of talk but no action. Neither public nor politic or persons have undertaken any action to protest, any action to spread locations of possible sites from which these planes take off and land. To make those locations public, is to make them visible. To make them visible is to expose them. Yes, there may have been petitions or talks with politicians, but nothing that really did something

Why not?

I don't know an answer to that question. But maybe it is me and am I not aware of those actions, which is quite well possible of course ;)

Gustav

[heyokah]

I can't help but thinking. There is talk about these chemtrails for years now. I know that it is not up to me to judge anyone, but here is the question i'm currently feel raised in my head.

If it is true, and has been proven that these chemtrails are real, when than is something done about it? There is a lot of talk, there is a good stir around the world that these practices are criminal, there are good arguments that people come up with pro and con, but I never hear ANY talk about, this is what we are going to do about it, this is how we are going to tackle the system. Or at least attempt it. And that worries me also. There has been lots of talk but no action. Neither public nor politic or persons have undertaken any action to protest, any action to spread locations of possible sites from which these planes take off and land. To make those locations public, is to make them visible. To make them visible is to expose them. Yes, there may have been petitions or talks with politicians, but nothing that really did something

Why not?

I don't know an answer to that question. But maybe it is me and am I not aware of those actions, which is quite well possible of course ;)

Gustav

Dear Gustav,

In 2009 Former Belgian Mayor Peter Vereecke started a crusade against chemtrails.

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Case Orange: Peter Vereecke reveals that the Case Orange report has already been submitted as an official document to many embassies, courts and officials and will not rest until the Chemtrails are stopped.

Here some info about the Case Orange Report (see also post #3)

http://real-agenda.com/2010/08/03/case-orange-report-the-history-of-weather-manipulation/

[stegosaur]

I'm 25 years old and have been looking at the sky my entire life and was specifically fascinated with the trails planes would leave and then quickly disappeared but now I all I see are trails that don't disappear and form criss-cross patterns. Also, I don't buy the atmospheric conditions argument - I have seen planes flying at the same time, one leaving a short lasting trail, the other leaving a trail lasting hours. In short, there is no doubt in my mind that we're being sprayed like roached

But I still don't understand why? I'd like to hear peoples opinions on this matter

[heyokah]

I'm 25 years old and have been looking at the sky my entire life and was specifically fascinated with the trails planes would leave and then quickly disappeared but now I all I see are trails that don't disappear and form criss-cross patterns. Also, I don't buy the atmospheric conditions argument - I have seen planes flying at the same time, one leaving a short lasting trail, the other leaving a trail lasting hours. In short, there is no doubt in my mind that we're being sprayed like roached

But I still don't understand why? I'd like to hear peoples opinions on this matter

Hallo stegosaur.

Maybe you should watch the 4 videos 'observer' posted on page 1, reply #18
"Purpose of Chemtrails"

[Gustav]

Thank you heyokah. That is a good start. I will look into it.

[Daren]

I have video of them spraying over Birmingham and there may well be affects from the sprays, but as this would not just hit me but every one on earth It leads me to thinking that its intention it to stop radiation from hitting the earth. from holes coursed by rockets going out into space. and testing of nuclear bombs.
May well be creating water shortages as well. As I strongly believe they want water to be there new oil. looking at the massive dams being made in Africa funded by the IMF which have coursed earth quakes. control of water is top of there list. or near the top.
Now this is blocking out the sun and may be waves of radiation from other planets. so I hold judgment but for every action the is a reaction that may be bad or good.
As we are heading for a sun spot high and the solar curve increases quite fast over a four year period coming to its peak which is 2012 approx and decreases slowly this would fall in-line with the amount of chem trails being seen As I see it the geomagnetic storms may be able to be predicted, now how this affects us as humans may well be different but it sure helps the radio waves and may help our human waves.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi all just been posting on the other thread ! How did I get here ? Must have pressed a link somewhere ? its getting confusing in here cheers Steve

[ktlight]

WATCH THIS SHORT VIDEO TO KNOW ABOUT CHEMTRAILS.

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[Russ1959]

Thanks KT, a startling refresher on the evils of chemtrailing.
What I would like to know is what are people doing about it?
Surely this is being questioned at some level with regards the harm it is causing to human populus?

[Pete]

Is it me, there doesn't seem to be so much activity recently, been enjoying clear sky's and vapor trails that evaporate.

[Jenci]

Is it true what Alex Jones says that before 1996 trails only formed at 20000 ft and above and only lasted a few minutes?

One day there were loads of trails in the sky and one plane very high up was leaving a trail which was evaporating very quickly. I wondered if the different altitudes of the planes could explain why vapour evaporated or didn't.
Jeanette

[Cartomancer]

Check out the Freetruth show on youtube and thesechangingtimez radio. Patrick is a tireless crusader against chemtrails.

http://www.youtube.com/user/FreeTruthShow?feature=g-all

[shamanseeker]

Is it me, there doesn't seem to be so much activity recently, been enjoying clear sky's and vapor trails that evaporate.

Hi Pete!

We had a lot of chemtrail activity for a while and then it stopped - I can't remember for how long and then a couple of weeks ago it started again but there were many more of them. Yesterday, I was in the town where I work and the sky was covered. Criss crosses of chemtrails. Yesterday, I noted that they were much longer than usual. I could see one of them stretch from the horizon in front of me and when I looked behind me, it stretched to the horizon behind!

In answer to Jeanette, I have a friend who is an amateur but very well-informed meteorologist. He said that they depended on weather conditions and wouldn't listen when I said that you didn't see them a few years ago. He gave me a weather magazine - very beautiful with lovely coloured photos and they argued the same thing. Then on the front cover, I saw the symbol of the all-seeing eye in a triangle!

[Jenci]

In answer to Jeanette, I have a friend who is an amateur but very well-informed meteorologist. He said that they depended on weather conditions and wouldn't listen when I said that you didn't see them a few years ago. He gave me a weather magazine - very beautiful with lovely coloured photos and they argued the same thing. Then on the front cover, I saw the symbol of the all-seeing eye in a triangle!

A triangle with all-seeing eye? A bit of a clue there, I think. I suppose it just goes back to the idea of people dismissing the idea because there's no way the government would ever do this to us.


Thanks for the link to Patrick's channel, Cartomancer.


I just logged onto my Windows 7 account and noticed the login screen. I've never noticed what it was before. Perhaps they are trying to tell me something :confused::rolleyes:

http://www.blogsolute.com/img/2011/03/logon-brand-changer.jpg

Jeanette