crownme
1st May 2011, 12:22
hello all :)
i thought i would open a thread to clearify hpnosis alittle. and bring my info to this table-forum and hope others can join in with inductions of self and induction of others.
small story first then i was probally like alot of you when i herd the word "hypnosis" . alot of uncertanty, thinking its not real. thinking it can controll you. or others can controll you just by looking into your eyes and send you away.
and alot more thoughts, mostly just fear of the unknown, and making up my own facts. i see now how stupid i was
but over to the hypnosis. i ouldnt even use that word. to me after a few times its pretty obvious to me that we are speaking of trances.
im not going to state this as total fact, but more as a guideline, you as the one in trance are in controll over session. that is to say.
when i hypnotise humans i must always have the dialog with the subject. and get confirmation on what is going on. i am nothing more than a guide really.
in beginning i tryed going against the will of your inner mind, and boy did it get creative :) it lies just as good as you, if not better.
to achive what i call real trance, somnambulance. were i can work. i need the individual to work with me, to follow my instructions and trust me. if not i most likley wont achive deep enough state to get in toutch with your subconsious.
ex. if you dont listen to me when i say " i will drop your arm and then you will drop 10 times deeper into this wonderful peacefull trance, when i count to 3 and then drop your arm and you will not help with this.
now if the individual decides to stick around in the mind and help with lifting the arm then that deepening tech is wasted and best thing to do is snap fingers and wake them up and start over again. and just tell them not to think and do stuff, just relax and follow.
so you see its you who is being hypnotised that are in controll
there are alot of myths and i bet many of you are screaming now "but i seen them do this on stage with humans and they snap their fingers and away they go.
while this is true to a certain state its a false thought.
first of a stage hypnotist will always find in the audience the humans that says "YES" with their face. then you will divide em further up into the hypnotic groups.
there are many inductions, what a stager hypnotist is looking for is the ones that are acceptable to rapid inductions, or instant induction. instant is quite fun and works with alot more than you think
that is actually just 1 hand movement and *snap* and you are gone.
but for any of this the individual have wants to enter trance/hypnosis. and trust me if you start study this you will see more and more opening doors within this.
Tbh its just to ask the question "do you want to be hypnotized" even if they say no you see it in they eyes, face, body , that they really wanna do this fun new exiting never experienced thing :)
what im trying to say is that the individual have to agree with the contract.
like when i start working with new ones that i feel i can work with, i will always set up a "contract". not a leagal one , but a hypnotract
its not relly for the individual but for you subconsious. its a binding thing were you say who you are and that you will accept me messing in your head so to speak
i need this to start any session. i want both me and the individual to feel safe and comfortable, and no un-anwsered question lieing around.
last thing i ussually confronts is fear. man im just starting to get like "fed up" of fear...
asking quiestion like, do you have any fear of hypnosis? do you have any strong fears ? have you heard any rumurs about hypnosis ?
stuff surrounding the session.
i think that should cover some of the basics, though there are many more ways and methods within this field. this is just my approach to it.
now inductions , this varies soooo much with the individual.
like if the individual is a logic thinker and restless. it wont work to try and talk all soft and use like 10min to try and slowly speak em into trance. or have hawain music on :) i meen it just wont work couse the logic thinker is gonna get bored and just start mocking you inside his thoughts.
you have your easy distracted persons, you think that these is acceptable to loooooong easy waves and soooothing music and voice that takes 4ever to end? no you distract him, snap fingers, and hold his head and start rotating it and bringing him way down.
there are a never ending way of inductions. you can invent them as you go along, all you are looking for is when you have gotten past the individuals critical thinking. your ego.
thats also why i starting this tread. i do indeed hope there are others that can join up with their inductions and/or experiences :)
ok my most used induction on others.
follow my fingers up and when i say close you will follow and not before.
(raises my hand with splitt fingers for each eye, brings hand up to about the hair line, says close your eyes and relax)
now i want you to focus on you eyes, and relax them completely out, you done that ? try testing them, try and open your eyes. (wait for test) ok stop testing. now i want you to send that feeling from the top of your head down to the tip of your toes, do it now..
(now i wait and watch their body and breathing. as they just taken a bigger breath, you start with filling in and following their breathing)
now i will make your body go completly relaxed, in a few moments i will lift your arm and drop it, when your arm hits your leg you will drop 10 times deeper into this wonderful deep state.
now its verry important that you will not help me lift, go completley limb and relaxed.
now i will lift your arm (check if they helps, if they do abort and try again) and when i count to 3 and not before i will drop it on you leg and you will fall 10 times deeper than before. 1-2-3 *drop* and deepers relaxed.
(repeat this one until you feel you have their body relaxed)
now we will relax out your numbers, i want you to count out starting from the number 100 deeper relaxed. (they will whisper 100, 99, and then get uncertain of what number is next)
and just let the number drift out and become gone. now lets start "100" deeper relaxed, you are drifting deeper, 99 deepers relaxed, just let them all go, let them go. 98, even deeper relaxed into this wonderful state. (now if they get alittle quiet you can ask them, "all gone" . do not use the word numbers or any numer related stuff, it will bring their numbers back and its a waste)
now you are almost there, just alittle more patter of deepening technique, like the arm drop, or you can use this one to cap it off at the end.
when i count to 3 and not before you will open your eyes until i say you can close them again. 1-2-3 and open your eyes, and let go even deeper relaxed.
(do this 2-3 times and you will see them drift off)
now time to small test to see if they are deep.
you will know i am here working on your arm, and it will not bother you a bit. (then pinch his/Her arm really hard) its really wierd but they wont feel a thing if you have succsess. i bet even you can slice and dice and still the individual wont feel it.
i jump alot around and taking it on the spot when i do this, i never do it exactly as ive written. i suddenly use another tech if i see t will bring me closer to whatever goal i am attemting at the time. and ofc its alot up to the one that ima guiding.
well thats alot of rambeling for now :)
hope some helps here :)
namaste
i thought i would open a thread to clearify hpnosis alittle. and bring my info to this table-forum and hope others can join in with inductions of self and induction of others.
small story first then i was probally like alot of you when i herd the word "hypnosis" . alot of uncertanty, thinking its not real. thinking it can controll you. or others can controll you just by looking into your eyes and send you away.
and alot more thoughts, mostly just fear of the unknown, and making up my own facts. i see now how stupid i was
but over to the hypnosis. i ouldnt even use that word. to me after a few times its pretty obvious to me that we are speaking of trances.
im not going to state this as total fact, but more as a guideline, you as the one in trance are in controll over session. that is to say.
when i hypnotise humans i must always have the dialog with the subject. and get confirmation on what is going on. i am nothing more than a guide really.
in beginning i tryed going against the will of your inner mind, and boy did it get creative :) it lies just as good as you, if not better.
to achive what i call real trance, somnambulance. were i can work. i need the individual to work with me, to follow my instructions and trust me. if not i most likley wont achive deep enough state to get in toutch with your subconsious.
ex. if you dont listen to me when i say " i will drop your arm and then you will drop 10 times deeper into this wonderful peacefull trance, when i count to 3 and then drop your arm and you will not help with this.
now if the individual decides to stick around in the mind and help with lifting the arm then that deepening tech is wasted and best thing to do is snap fingers and wake them up and start over again. and just tell them not to think and do stuff, just relax and follow.
so you see its you who is being hypnotised that are in controll
there are alot of myths and i bet many of you are screaming now "but i seen them do this on stage with humans and they snap their fingers and away they go.
while this is true to a certain state its a false thought.
first of a stage hypnotist will always find in the audience the humans that says "YES" with their face. then you will divide em further up into the hypnotic groups.
there are many inductions, what a stager hypnotist is looking for is the ones that are acceptable to rapid inductions, or instant induction. instant is quite fun and works with alot more than you think
that is actually just 1 hand movement and *snap* and you are gone.
but for any of this the individual have wants to enter trance/hypnosis. and trust me if you start study this you will see more and more opening doors within this.
Tbh its just to ask the question "do you want to be hypnotized" even if they say no you see it in they eyes, face, body , that they really wanna do this fun new exiting never experienced thing :)
what im trying to say is that the individual have to agree with the contract.
like when i start working with new ones that i feel i can work with, i will always set up a "contract". not a leagal one , but a hypnotract
its not relly for the individual but for you subconsious. its a binding thing were you say who you are and that you will accept me messing in your head so to speak
i need this to start any session. i want both me and the individual to feel safe and comfortable, and no un-anwsered question lieing around.
last thing i ussually confronts is fear. man im just starting to get like "fed up" of fear...
asking quiestion like, do you have any fear of hypnosis? do you have any strong fears ? have you heard any rumurs about hypnosis ?
stuff surrounding the session.
i think that should cover some of the basics, though there are many more ways and methods within this field. this is just my approach to it.
now inductions , this varies soooo much with the individual.
like if the individual is a logic thinker and restless. it wont work to try and talk all soft and use like 10min to try and slowly speak em into trance. or have hawain music on :) i meen it just wont work couse the logic thinker is gonna get bored and just start mocking you inside his thoughts.
you have your easy distracted persons, you think that these is acceptable to loooooong easy waves and soooothing music and voice that takes 4ever to end? no you distract him, snap fingers, and hold his head and start rotating it and bringing him way down.
there are a never ending way of inductions. you can invent them as you go along, all you are looking for is when you have gotten past the individuals critical thinking. your ego.
thats also why i starting this tread. i do indeed hope there are others that can join up with their inductions and/or experiences :)
ok my most used induction on others.
follow my fingers up and when i say close you will follow and not before.
(raises my hand with splitt fingers for each eye, brings hand up to about the hair line, says close your eyes and relax)
now i want you to focus on you eyes, and relax them completely out, you done that ? try testing them, try and open your eyes. (wait for test) ok stop testing. now i want you to send that feeling from the top of your head down to the tip of your toes, do it now..
(now i wait and watch their body and breathing. as they just taken a bigger breath, you start with filling in and following their breathing)
now i will make your body go completly relaxed, in a few moments i will lift your arm and drop it, when your arm hits your leg you will drop 10 times deeper into this wonderful deep state.
now its verry important that you will not help me lift, go completley limb and relaxed.
now i will lift your arm (check if they helps, if they do abort and try again) and when i count to 3 and not before i will drop it on you leg and you will fall 10 times deeper than before. 1-2-3 *drop* and deepers relaxed.
(repeat this one until you feel you have their body relaxed)
now we will relax out your numbers, i want you to count out starting from the number 100 deeper relaxed. (they will whisper 100, 99, and then get uncertain of what number is next)
and just let the number drift out and become gone. now lets start "100" deeper relaxed, you are drifting deeper, 99 deepers relaxed, just let them all go, let them go. 98, even deeper relaxed into this wonderful state. (now if they get alittle quiet you can ask them, "all gone" . do not use the word numbers or any numer related stuff, it will bring their numbers back and its a waste)
now you are almost there, just alittle more patter of deepening technique, like the arm drop, or you can use this one to cap it off at the end.
when i count to 3 and not before you will open your eyes until i say you can close them again. 1-2-3 and open your eyes, and let go even deeper relaxed.
(do this 2-3 times and you will see them drift off)
now time to small test to see if they are deep.
you will know i am here working on your arm, and it will not bother you a bit. (then pinch his/Her arm really hard) its really wierd but they wont feel a thing if you have succsess. i bet even you can slice and dice and still the individual wont feel it.
i jump alot around and taking it on the spot when i do this, i never do it exactly as ive written. i suddenly use another tech if i see t will bring me closer to whatever goal i am attemting at the time. and ofc its alot up to the one that ima guiding.
well thats alot of rambeling for now :)
hope some helps here :)
namaste