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loveandgratitude
2nd May 2011, 01:28
Ghoulish Hunt for Qaddafi Defines NATO
Article by Tony Cartalucci


Bangkok, Thailand May 1, 2011 - The very policy of targeted assassinations sidesteps any semblance of law, national or international. By extra-judicially executing people, proper investigations, trials, and justice itself is circumvented, diminished, and ultimately undermined as a whole. The United States in particular has become the greatest purveyor of this perversion of what used to serve as the very foundation of its own constitution and its values as a free nation.

NATO's attack, reported on May 1, 2011, in an attempt to extra-judicially murder Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi has claimed the life of his youngest son Saif al-Arab Qaddafi, as well as several of his grandchildren. The indiscriminate nature of the attack and the killing of children illustrates in its entirety just why civilized nations have long condemned assassination attempts and the indiscriminate use of military force on non-military targets in the first place.

This latest attack is reminiscent of another targeted assassination attempt by the United States in 1986 that missed Qaddafi but managed to kill his 4 year old adopted daughter Hanna. The corporate owned media has since played semantics suggesting Hanna was adopted posthumously, seemingly more content with the idea of the murdered 4 year old having no ties to Qaddafi.

The botched assassination attempt comes just days after several US government figures called for Qaddafi's extra-judicial murder. While these calls are supposedly part of America's ever expanding mission in Libya to "protect civilians," it should be noted that according to even the US Department of Defense, no credible evidence had been produced to justify the current military operations, let alone their expansion.

While most informed readers are under no delusion as to what NATO really represents, a supranational military force carrying out a global corporate-financier agenda, even the uninformed must understand by now that NATO, between its endless occupation in Afghanistan, its provocative encirclement of Russia, and now their senseless siege of Libya, has become a global menace, removed from both the national laws that are supposed to govern the civilized use of member military forces, as well as the contrived international laws they claim they act to uphold.

When NATO isn't butchering children or extra-legally occupying sovereign nations, it is busy encircling Russia inviting World War III in the service of global financiers.

While people in the West may apathetically shrug off the grievous evil being perpetrated in Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan Iraq, Iran, and a growing number of other nations through the actions of the United States, UK, France and their NATO allies, they must realize that it is only a matter of time before this disregard for the very laws that govern their society will eventually be visited upon them [empasis added by KA]. In many ways in America and Europe, this is already incrementally becoming a reality. Just as the world continuously turned a blind eye to Adolf Hilter and his Nazi war machine as it incrementally violated the sovereignty of both the German people and their neighbors, we stand only to embolden this expanding, reckless tyranny by remaining silent and tacitly complicit in our support of the politicians and corporations behind this dark agenda.

We may not be able to physically stop this unfolding crime against humanity, but we surely can undermine it, day-by-day, purchase-by-purchase, by committing ourselves to a full-spectrum boycott of the corporations involved - essentially anything that is not produced locally. We can also undermine the corrupt, fiat financial machine driving this global menace by replacing our currency with physical precious metals and alternative currencies used amongst friends, families, and coalitions of local businesses. Finally, we can begin to grow our own food and support local farmers, as well as taking up trades and constructive pastime pursuits to reconnect to our roots of independence and self-sufficiency that made the West great.

While we can easily sit idly by doing nothing, claiming that it isn't our problem, it isn't our grandchildren being murdered by "precision ordnance," we must reflect on history and realize that indeed, soon it will be, most certainly and undeniably. We can choose to stand up to this now, or we can experience first-hand tomorrow the bitter agony of loss, death, and destruction that is consuming Libya's population, as it has Iraq, Afghanistan, and the myriad of nations past and present to feel the sting of repressive global spanning tyranny.

Tony Cartalucci
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/us-murders-children-in-bid-to.html

TWINCANS
2nd May 2011, 01:34
I was taken by a great sadness when I read of these assassinations yesterday. It was one I could not shake. It made no sense that this action should affect more than all the other equally vicious assaults by tptb on life, liberty and justice for all - but neither did the assassinations.

TWINCANS
2nd May 2011, 01:38
"We may not be able to physically stop this unfolding crime against humanity, but we surely can undermine it, day-by-day, purchase-by-purchase, by committing ourselves to a full-spectrum boycott of the corporations involved - essentially anything that is not produced locally. We can also undermine the corrupt, fiat financial machine driving this global menace by replacing our currency with physical precious metals and alternative currencies used amongst friends, families, and coalitions of local businesses. Finally, we can begin to grow our own food and support local farmers, as well as taking up trades and constructive pastime pursuits to reconnect to our roots of independence and self-sufficiency that made the West great."

And then in a short paragraph this writer manages to put out a very usable gameplan, one that feels fine and has every potential to lift the depression overtaking persons of conscience annd consciousness. Bravo.

Lord Sidious
2nd May 2011, 03:52
And still, the war god smiles while people's hearts bleed.
Let's all make a resolution to bring this madness to an end as soon as possible.

Maia Gabrial
4th May 2011, 02:04
The sad thing is that the world will judge ALL Americans as the same as our own greedy, vicious and corrupt leadership. I'm sad to say that we're now the real terrorists of the world. Being American used to mean something to us and to other nations. Now they hate us the world over....We're not fighting for God or country anymore. For the bank account of TPTB is what we do now. I fell for the lie a long time ago right along with everyone else....but no more. None of us are bad people, just duped....I want to see all the violence stopped. If we spent as much money on solving our problems as we do inventing new weapons of destruction, we could change our world in a few years by educating and encouraging compassion. I've wondered why anyone would think God would approve of all this murdering....It just doesn't fit the model of Love or a loving God....

Maia Gabrial
4th May 2011, 02:09
Yes, may the Force be with the Light Side now...!

Lord Sidious
4th May 2011, 03:13
The sad thing is that the world will judge ALL Americans as the same as our own greedy, vicious and corrupt leadership. I'm sad to say that we're now the real terrorists of the world. Being American used to mean something to us and to other nations. Now they hate us the world over....We're not fighting for God or country anymore. For the bank account of TPTB is what we do now. I fell for the lie a long time ago right along with everyone else....but no more. None of us are bad people, just duped....I want to see all the violence stopped. If we spent as much money on solving our problems as we do inventing new weapons of destruction, we could change our world in a few years by educating and encouraging compassion. I've wondered why anyone would think God would approve of all this murdering....It just doesn't fit the model of Love or a loving God....

I think you will find that even those who hate the government, don't necessarily hate the people who live in America.
A lot of them realise you suffer it as much as they do.

SteveX
9th May 2011, 07:07
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

Lord Sidious
9th May 2011, 07:21
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

SteveX
9th May 2011, 23:40
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Lord Sidious
10th May 2011, 00:58
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Yeah, it is rude, it was like meeting like.
You have something against Germans?
That is fine, but don't put that up on the forum and expect a pat on the back.
Can't take the heat? Don't enter the kitchen.

SteveX
10th May 2011, 19:55
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Yeah, it is rude, it was like meeting like.
You have something against Germans?
That is fine, but don't put that up on the forum and expect a pat on the back.
Can't take the heat? Don't enter the kitchen.

Oh dear, an Internet attack.
I could attribute your rudeness to cognitive distortion but I'll be blunt and suggest your having an attack of Hard of Understanding (PC for being a bit fick)

If you can show me or anyone else for that matter, how you conclude I have a dislike for Germans, from my statements above, I'll show you a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I strongly recommend you reread the post and watch the vid before you even think of replying. It's only then that you may (or may not) realise that not only did you chose to ignore 90% of my post but, that you also failed 100% to understand my inference, as attributed by the video, to who wears German helmets these days.

To help you apologise the Fritz or Kpot helmet is a Kevlar development, in a modern guise, of the former WWII German helmet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personnel_Armor_System_for_Ground_Troops

Lord Sidious
10th May 2011, 22:33
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Yeah, it is rude, it was like meeting like.
You have something against Germans?
That is fine, but don't put that up on the forum and expect a pat on the back.
Can't take the heat? Don't enter the kitchen.

Oh dear, an Internet attack.
I could attribute your rudeness to cognitive distortion but I'll be blunt and suggest your having an attack of Hard of Understanding (PC for being a bit fick)

If you can show me or anyone else for that matter, how you conclude I have a dislike for Germans, from my statements above, I'll show you a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I strongly recommend you reread the post and watch the vid before you even think of replying. It's only then that you may (or may not) realise that not only did you chose to ignore 90% of my post but, that you also failed 100% to understand my inference, as attributed by the video, to who wears German helmets these days.

To help you apologise the Fritz or Kpot helmet is a Kevlar development, in a modern guise, of the former WWII German helmet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personnel_Armor_System_for_Ground_Troops

Yeah, thanks, I know about the helmets.
I won't be offering an apology though, as your words were put in a very crude manner and that is why I put what I did.

SteveX
11th May 2011, 00:04
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Yeah, it is rude, it was like meeting like.
You have something against Germans?
That is fine, but don't put that up on the forum and expect a pat on the back.
Can't take the heat? Don't enter the kitchen.

Oh dear, an Internet attack.
I could attribute your rudeness to cognitive distortion but I'll be blunt and suggest your having an attack of Hard of Understanding (PC for being a bit fick)

If you can show me or anyone else for that matter, how you conclude I have a dislike for Germans, from my statements above, I'll show you a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I strongly recommend you reread the post and watch the vid before you even think of replying. It's only then that you may (or may not) realise that not only did you chose to ignore 90% of my post but, that you also failed 100% to understand my inference, as attributed by the video, to who wears German helmets these days.

To help you apologise the Fritz or Kpot helmet is a Kevlar development, in a modern guise, of the former WWII German helmet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personnel_Armor_System_for_Ground_Troops

Yeah, thanks, I know about the helmets.
I won't be offering an apology though, as your words were put in a very crude manner and that is why I put what I did.

You are either a forum troll (derailer) or are hard of upstanding (a bit fick). What input in my post about blatant BBC UK propaganda didn't you understand?

Yet you Sir, chose to infer I’m anti German, which is far from the truth, from what I ACTUALLY posted, and the ethos of this thread. Your ego may be driving your cognitive dissonance / distortion.

Talk about kitchens being too hot, in short, you owe an apology for your short sightedness... your cognative understanding.

Lord Sidious
11th May 2011, 00:18
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Yeah, it is rude, it was like meeting like.
You have something against Germans?
That is fine, but don't put that up on the forum and expect a pat on the back.
Can't take the heat? Don't enter the kitchen.

Oh dear, an Internet attack.
I could attribute your rudeness to cognitive distortion but I'll be blunt and suggest your having an attack of Hard of Understanding (PC for being a bit fick)

If you can show me or anyone else for that matter, how you conclude I have a dislike for Germans, from my statements above, I'll show you a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I strongly recommend you reread the post and watch the vid before you even think of replying. It's only then that you may (or may not) realise that not only did you chose to ignore 90% of my post but, that you also failed 100% to understand my inference, as attributed by the video, to who wears German helmets these days.

To help you apologise the Fritz or Kpot helmet is a Kevlar development, in a modern guise, of the former WWII German helmet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personnel_Armor_System_for_Ground_Troops

Yeah, thanks, I know about the helmets.
I won't be offering an apology though, as your words were put in a very crude manner and that is why I put what I did.

You are either a forum troll (derailer) or are hard of upstanding (a bit fick). What input in my post about blatant BBC UK propaganda didn't you understand?

Yet you Sir, chose to infer I’m anti German, which is far from the truth and the ethos of this thread. Your ego may be driving your cognitive dissonance / distortion. Talk about kitchens being too hot, in short, you owe an apology for your short sightedness... your cognative understanding.

Upon thinking about this, you are right.
I apologise.

Would you object to having this silly exchange deleted so the thread can be cleaned up?

SteveX
11th May 2011, 00:37
Talk about mission creep. Supposedly the USA has some kind of law about not assassinating leaders but its perfectly OK to take out command and control points. At what point does leader / command and control become separate. I guess the victor writes the history.

One aspect of this story that I didn't like was the BBC news running it as ...expulsion of Libyan ambassador. It's only later in this propaganda story that you find out why the UK embassy was burnt out in Libya...that caused the expulsion of their ambassador. I watched the news caster reading out the story. Man! She was real uncomfortable it. Kept looking off set with eye's that said..WTF. Eventually the story unravelled throughout the day but the Beeb stuck with expulsion of ambassador but got more into the failed assassination attempt (my words not there’s). They didn’t say which countries aircraft made the strike….Italian, French, Brit or U.S.

Conveniently though, Bin Laden got knocked off the next day, which eclipsed the whole story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY
and which army wears German helmets these days?

And your excuse for this nuggetry is what?
Thanks for keeping the madness going.
When will you guys wake up?

How rude, let alone insightful to the topic. And your authority to bestow us with the title "YOU GUYS", comes from what?...yer right.

Yeah, it is rude, it was like meeting like.
You have something against Germans?
That is fine, but don't put that up on the forum and expect a pat on the back.
Can't take the heat? Don't enter the kitchen.

Oh dear, an Internet attack.
I could attribute your rudeness to cognitive distortion but I'll be blunt and suggest your having an attack of Hard of Understanding (PC for being a bit fick)

If you can show me or anyone else for that matter, how you conclude I have a dislike for Germans, from my statements above, I'll show you a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I strongly recommend you reread the post and watch the vid before you even think of replying. It's only then that you may (or may not) realise that not only did you chose to ignore 90% of my post but, that you also failed 100% to understand my inference, as attributed by the video, to who wears German helmets these days.

To help you apologise the Fritz or Kpot helmet is a Kevlar development, in a modern guise, of the former WWII German helmet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personnel_Armor_System_for_Ground_Troops

Yeah, thanks, I know about the helmets.
I won't be offering an apology though, as your words were put in a very crude manner and that is why I put what I did.

You are either a forum troll (derailer) or are hard of upstanding (a bit fick). What input in my post about blatant BBC UK propaganda didn't you understand?

Yet you Sir, chose to infer I’m anti German, which is far from the truth and the ethos of this thread. Your ego may be driving your cognitive dissonance / distortion. Talk about kitchens being too hot, in short, you owe an apology for your short sightedness... your cognative understanding.

Upon thinking about this, you are right.
I apologise.

Would you object to having this silly exchange deleted so the thread can be cleaned up?

I object to any clean up but your apols are noted and apreciated....back to topic please.