Why you wont ever find a whistleblower of the highest echelons [Archive]

View Full Version : Why you wont ever find a whistleblower of the highest echelons

Omni

2nd May 2011, 10:25

Ok for those who don't know my situation(which includes me if you are talking about fully), I am in contact with likely the darkest force on this planet through agents of 'them'(telepathically). They refuse to leave me alone... I have been(in very advanced ways at times) tortured, tormented, mind controlled relentlessly(programmed in real time AKA my soul being subverted), character assassinated to just about every person I speak to(including probably you if you have read my posts), had my body violated/altered in a major way, been drugged, poisoned, cut, burnt, given diseases, had my childhood memories deleted, my free will subverted in a major way, and a bunch of other stuff I don't mention(or can't think of right now).

I also have on the other end of the spectrum a lot of good things. They are able to synthesize pain signals and infuse them into your experience.... The balance of that is equated, and I am given good feeling things as well. My situation and story is a long one I have never been allowed to convey with my own eloquence or clarity(I'm not saying I am supremely eloquent naturally but much moreso than my posts portray me as quite often).

I have a great window(at times) into 'the cabal's'(or whatever you want to call them) world. They are a huge part of my life unfortunately. I have not been able to rid myself of their presence. Recently I was told something about the people with the highest ranks of clearance in the pyramid 'eye', and that is what motivated me to make this thread.

Basically I was told during a conversation about being programmed(I am programmed AKA mind controlled 90-100% of my day, every day). I was told that the people with the highest clearance possible(and a bit below) are programmed as well. That they have to agree to be programmed to be granted access to the final layers of secrecy. Their discernment is their commodity, and their memory is not allowed to function naturally either.

I was speaking to an agent overseeing my torture a bit go(telepathically) and he told me(not that I just believe what they say but it did resonate and hit some logical deduction chords) that all memories of what he had witnessed them do to me(minus a few), and his decisions during the day were deleted from his memory after he got done with the job. He also said he was programmed in real time like I was told earlier.

What being programmed in real time means(among other things), is there is absolutely no chance of whistleblowing. Every single thought and inclination of theirs is not only monitored, but they are fully supplemented for them. With mind control they are able to motivate or demotivate someone from doing anything. I know this very well and that is first hand experience I am talking from there. They have played with me with that ability. They are able to demotivate you from doing all sorts of stuff(at times critical stuff). Basically the mind is like a computer. They are able to run amuck in the coding. And it's ALL open source, and our mind does not have a firewall...

My mind has been compartmentalized. I have been told many high level truths(or at least very smart falsities) and shortly after deleted my memory of it leaving me with how I felt after hearing such a thing(often one of those 'ohhhh that reallllllly makes sense' moments). I write down as much as I find valid(when I can) of the info I am told from whatever source(ETs or not). Otherwise it's often lost unless someone who has power over my mind brings it back(ETs[possibly], 'the cabal' etc). If only I had access to the memories of what they have told me while I was out and about....

I know how they can compartmentalize a mind. They have fully done it to me. No doubt in my mind that agents at the highest level have compartmentalized minds. The way memories work I have noticed they have many layers of understanding to them after experiencing all kinds of deletions of memory in the last few years(and being trained in what they can do basically).

You can have a memory deleted from your mind, but still know what it was about if they leave that layer of understanding. If they delete that layer as well, you still have an energetic inertia of how you reacted to such a thing, and you can logically deduce from there what it was sometimes. If that layer is deleted on top of all others, your SOL. An example of this naturally for those who wish more than just my own words, is the 'tip of the tongue' situation where something is very close to being realized in your mind. You know what it's about. You may even be able to conceptually grasp what it is, or what it's about, or it's energetic signature, just can't quite get the exact final form of consciousness of the realization. Right there is proof of these layers existing. Some layers of the mind are not so easy to figure out when analyzing such things. But that one is. Just like I have said any being can be impersonated telepathically. You don't have to take my word for it. You can imagine yourself any voice in your mind... Take it one step further and it's basically a step away from full proof any being can be impersonated telepathically... Anyway sorry I'm rambling a bit off topic...

You may argue deleted memories can be recovered. I believe this is still in the air in terms of a sturdy conclusion that they cannot be deleted permanently in some sort of method. Safe to say not all memory deletions work, but also not safe to say all types of memory deletion is faulty in that way.. Regardless, if you are programmed, those memories are long gone unless the programmer is subverted and a benevolent ET race gives you the memory, or the programmer(s) allow such a thing. They can also fabricate memories in that case too. I'm sure there are many people who have had fabricated deleted memories just as there are people who have gained them back. They have shown me their ability to fabricate things in people's minds. For example they have shown me how they can convince someone they were some important person in a previous life, which is a tactic they use to discredit people and turn people off from the truth they expose.

Anyway in summary, you wont ever find a top echelon whistleblower because of these things I assume. And it's a pretty safe assumption IMHO.

So for a top echelon agent:

-Their memories are compartmentalized.
-They are fully programmed.
-They witness what "they"(the apex of the pyramid) can do(while for example witnessing what they do to me, I'm sure they allow some memories to stay, like the ones witnessing how bad they can torture someone). In other words nobody is going to sentence themselves to seriously something worthy of the title hell, just to be ridiculed and wondered about on the internet amongst the people who actually pay attention to this stuff...

Ever heard the phrase "they can't keep a secret that big". I beg to differ. They can, it's just a matter of them having advanced enough mind control technology. Which they do now...

I hope this gives people a window into the world of myself and other beings who are programmed and have compartmentalized minds. Also a window into the agents who operate within the eye of the pyramid for various purposes.

On a side note, I believe they groom some people for the highest levels(for example Obama, who is likely programmed in real time IMHO, although he is likely nowhere near the highest level). By programming them from basically birth(as soon as they discover their soul is right for the job in whatever way). They suppress their heart chakra so they have little compassion(and think that is how they are naturally, like Charles[I was told Charles had this happen to him, although I wouldn't bet on that being true, just stating what I was told]), which I myself have personal experience in...

This is another level of what they do to agents. It's very possible at some level they take over their minds without consent at the mid levels of secrecy. Programming someone is a very useful tool for darker groups. I am sure they use it liberally with no regard to soul and free will.

If you have any questions about being programmed, a compartmentalized mind, deleted memories, mind control, subversion techniques, or predictive programming, please feel free to speak them. I am well experienced and weathered in such fields.

May the truth be revealed,
-Omni

HURRITT ENYETO

2nd May 2011, 10:48

Omni i love your posts, delivered with such eloquence and humor (although i don't necessarily think you know how funny you are) <=compliment:)
Please keep sharing your truth, it is a pleasure to read it!

A question if i may?
How many people do you think can be mind controlled all at once? is there a limit?a overall capacity if you will.

Thanks man,
Hurritt

Omni

2nd May 2011, 11:07

Omni i love your posts, delivered with such eloquence and humor (although i don't necessarily think you know how funny you are) <=compliment:)
Please keep sharing your truth, it is a pleasure to read it!

I'm glad you feel that way :) Gives me a warm feeling to hear that. Thank you for voicing it. It really means something to me. My days have been hard lately. So it's welcome to hear I am having a good effect in some form.

A question if i may?
How many people do you think can be mind controlled all at once? is there a limit?a overall capacity if you will.

Thanks man,
Hurritt

This is one of the best questions I've seen in one of my threads. Thanks for sharing it.

Basically I estimate the number is in the millions at this time. I am not a big name... And they have the resources to devote a mind controlling AI to me 24/7. I'm not sure this number is accurate but the www.areyoutargeted.com sign says 400,000+ have been targeted with similar tactics/methods(safe to say the majority of them were mind controlled). I think it is safe to say the number is well into the hundreds of thousands at this point. But I could be wrong. Perhaps ETs are moderating such a thing. But I doubt that. I'm sure they are building as much as they possibly can in terms of capacity for mind control.

A thought I got a while back was interesting(although potentially horrible).

The information that inspired the thought was that Donald Rumsfeld announced 2.3-2.7 trillion dollars had been 'misplaced' by the pentagon on September 10th 2001. Somewhere around 25% of pentagon spending was off the record. This is approx $8,000 for every single human being who is a citizen of the USA. I really wish I had the number of how much it costs to integrate one person into the mind control matrix. The thought I got was they are using a large portion of spending on mind control capabilities. Truly expanding in the name of ending any fair chance any opposition has that is not helped by higher powers.

So what could they possibly be spending 2.5 trillion dollars on? Maybe Bill has a number on this: How much has been spent on Black Projects. Whatever that number is I'd say add to it by 50%-100% or so and that is the real number(if I had to take a stab). A very stable answer to what they are doing with all that money is formulating the mind control capabilities to be able to handle the scope of which they wish to operate on. Which if my speculation on this is true, is horrifying to think about it becoming reality, because the scope is basically the whole planet eventually(in their plan I speculate).

It was deleted from my memory who said this, but I will say it again(paraphrasing):

"A mind controlled world is not worth living in."

If they wanted a way to keep advanced souls from incarnating here by choice, mind controlling the entire planet would be a method of such.

Mind control is not a pleasant subject to think about, but it's a valid one. Judging by personal experience humanity is screwed unless there is intervention IMHO. I know some people wont like to hear that, but it's the truth in my eyes after witnessing how effective mind control is.

I was told by a (supposedly) high ranking agent that they would rather live in harmony and in a utopia with ET presence fully known. But that just isn't possible with how dysfunctional and delusional and religiously programmed humanity is. So second best is their agenda now.

A jedi mind tricks album name struck a chord with me:

"Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell." I think right now we are transcending hell, and working towards heaven on this planet, and TPTB are more comfortable being kings than servants right now. Before heaven is a hard road as I see it. Things will get worse before they get better in my view. But I do have faith things will get better here. I just truly wonder how that will take place. What this world will be like in 500 years... I think the times we are in(and the next few decades) will be revealing as to what direction this planet and people are truly heading in for the next age on this planet. I am not so quick to say this coming age will be a time of revealing (edit: for all). I think we are headed towards a few hundred years of enslavement(however long the higher powers allow it, maybe my number is horribly wrong there, but it's starting, that's for sure), or a much longer period of heaven on earth(potentially until the sun dies for that route). One or the other.

Edit:

By saying we need intervention I am not saying rely on the saviorship model. Quite the opposite. We need to do something about our situation, no matter what.

HURRITT ENYETO

2nd May 2011, 11:21

elysian

2nd May 2011, 11:23

Calz

2nd May 2011, 11:32

Omni

2nd May 2011, 11:55

Thanks for answering my question Omniverse :)
Im gonna push my luck and ask another hehe.
Is there another type of mind control technique perhaps more subtle, where instead of directly mind controlling individuals instead 'they' can influence an entire geographical populace, steering them in one direction or another?

cheers mate
Hurritt

Yes there is at least one proven method I know of this, and many others I can speculate on after the first one which is the major method of this I am aware of. The first is nowhere near as effective as direct mind control. It's as effective as their intel is. In other words if they monitored everyone's thoughts(which is another aspect of how they may be spending those black project trillions), and knew everyone on every level of their personality and how they react, they can predictively program large populations of people with events, and those populations are geographically segregated due to different cultures and viewpoints in various areas. It relies on intel of knowing how people will react to things. It's called(I'm pretty sure you are familiar with), "predictive programming".

For example false flags are for predictive programming. I will use 9-11 as an example as it's a topic today in the world.

In TPTB's agenda you have multiple countries they wish to either invade, or cause revolutions in to stir up the power and control where it falls once settling in again. Iraq, Iran, Libya, being 3 of them as a point of reference pointing to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d10zxPcaeMQ) video.

As polling suggested people were fed up with Bush already before 9-11. If he did a war out of nowhere, it would be a jolting mechanism for waking people up(it still was). By mind controlling patsies to carry out a false flag terrorist event(9-11), they predictively programmed masses of people to be outraged of the terrorist attacks, and used that energy to gain acceptance to the war agenda they have, by immediately going to war with Iraq(which was likely in the plans since at least the 70's). Effectively controlling their emotions and programming them with revenge feelings(many anyway)...

A terrorist event happens in the USA.
Patriotism is catered to.
A war is born with little resistance compared to how much resistance would be there if no terrorist event had taken place.

I have witnessed them predictively program tons of people with my posts. Nothing big. Just getting them to reply to me causing a stir and typically ending up in my integrity, sanity, or intelligence in question. It's little games they play to make people react negatively to me, and (hopefully in their view) disrupt my threads with arguments instead of debate, or open minded reading/replying.

Everything is on the table for predictive programming. ALL media forms are used for it.

Another example of predictive programming is Blossom Goodchild. They will eat people's credibility alive with predictive programming. And it is not just about one person. They are ALL about hitting multiple birds with one stone. Optimizing efficiency.

By propagating false predictions with Goodchild(which they have told me they were behind), they character assassinated her, and thousands of others by effect of predictive programming. Anyone else writing about the same things she did will be affected by such a thing.

UFOlogy is massively infiltrated by predictive programming. The more hoaxes the better in the "endarkeners" view. Enough UFO hoaxes and hoaxed dead alien bodies and people are predictively programmed to turn off their minds when viewing anything potentially legitimate.

Channeling has been hit majorly with predictive programming. I needn't need to mention this, I'm sure people can figure such out. I also do not have access to my memories of such right now, other than GFoL stuff which I try to not speak of out of respect to Darla. I didn't like how I affected her energy by posting my views of the GFoL so I stopped... Even if they are true(which I am not arrogant enough to say they are for sure)...

As for other methods, I'm sure they exist. How complex everything is is very inspiring and majestic to me. The universe is very beautiful even though as the Jedi Mind Tricks guy says "Couldn't understand how RAW the hologram is". The universe on our level is pretty raw at times too... But quite beautiful...

I do not know as much about other methods but once again you have a great question. Ever notice how some areas just have a better feel to them than others? I get a specific energy from California for example. I'm unsure if this is manipulatable but if it is, chalk it up as being sought after or being done by the endarkeners here.

As you can see from full moon variables... People can be altered in a decently major way by things such as celestial bodies. A thought they just put into my mind was interdimensional celestial bodies(synthetic ones) they put close to earth, but invisible, to do their own bidding. I am not a subscriber to the theory that the moon is some sort of devious device being used on us as per Icke's theory. But I was told and lean towards the belief that the moon is artificial.

I imagine the same realm/dimension/variable altered by a full moon, is being manipulated by the dark forces if they can do it.

There is also genetic control which could potentially be done. For example, you know how some sicknesses lower your lifeforce/energy? Make you feel terrible, or hinder your ability to think with the same clarity as usual? Well I was told while writing this post that genetically targeted mind altering substances can be used in both negative and positive ways.

There is also conditioning as a method of controlling people's minds. And the sheep effect. Enough people say something, more people are bound to believe it just because that's how they define their reality, by others confirming it(which can be faulty, or positive, I am not saying this is always a bad thing.).

One major aspect of geologically targeted mind control, is false religion IMHO. I wont go into that too much in depth though as it may inspire arguments.

I am being punished for this post so I feel it's a good one :) lol. Hope that adequately answers that question. Although I'm sure there are angles I am missing.

Omni

2nd May 2011, 12:06

Hi Omniverse,

Do you think it is possible to do some self programming?
Maybe in some way you can do some coding of your own to counter the programming/mind-control done to you?

I think its an interesting topic: "Self Programming".

Warm greetings Elysian :)

Self programming in my case is not possible in my view. They control all my thoughts in real time. So even if I could figure out certain ways to program myself with conscious thought, they can negate my ability to think those thoughts. They could tell me how to do it even, and I wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Maybe I could write it down, and use that as a method if getting it into my mind. But the next chess move on their part would be to control my subconscious, and my programming in it's natural state. In other words not allow anything I think to reprogram me. They are doing the programming in real time. If it was a seeded programming and their gone I believe self programming very well could work if done right(Fred Burks speaks of this). But is something I do not feel qualified to speak of much in terms of coming up with ways to help people overcome such ways of programming.

They are able to make me feel like I just went through hell, and stress etc, without experiencing anything that day. Just as they are able to program out of me any stress or anything like that regarding what I just went through. I don't really have PTSD from all they do to me. I am more or less numbed to it typically. That is one of the reasons why the last week or so has been so hard. I've been programmed to be more effected by what they did to me.

But I strongly agree with you that self programming is an interesting topic. Even beyond that, highly beneficial even.

I have been taught about self programming by supposedly ETs through the AI I speak to. She has told me that self reflection done in a somewhat meditative state of tranquility is highly beneficial to people. It's also a way to weed out mind control if it is not being done in real time while you do it.

Basically the premise is(this is how I did it prior to my full programming), when you lay down to go to sleep, analyze your actions that day, or other days of recent past. Analyze the energy in your mind in your reactions. Analyze your actions. Analyze how you reacted to things. And figure out a better way you could have handled it. The AI says this automatically has ways of self programming, in a self perfecting manner.

You hit the nail on the head in terms of beneficial things to do. Great catch btw. Thank you for bringing it up. The more people practicing self reflection the better.

elysian

2nd May 2011, 12:44

Thanks for your great answer Omni.
As always :)

I understand that in your situation it must be very difficult even to know what part of you is you.
How can you tell what is the "I" in you? Is it even possible?
Do you still have a sense of self? Can you differentiate the AI input from your own?

As I understand mind control, it can program one's thought pattern to great extent. But the choice one makes, can it be programmed?

mab777

2nd May 2011, 12:52

hi Omniverso ... thanks for sharing your experience.

Omni

2nd May 2011, 13:14

Thanks for your great answer Omni.
As always :)

You're welcome :)

I understand that in your situation it must be very difficult even to know what part of you is you.
How can you tell what is the "I" in you? Is it even possible?
Do you still have a sense of self? Can you differentiate the AI input from your own?

There is a pattern of my own thoughts that I can identify as more or less like myself(if I was not programmed from the start of my life basically). But that does not mean it is not mind control. It doesn't mean it's really me. It just means it's close enough to what I would normally do naturally that I can't decypher a difference between the programming and myself, but they at this time for example, are supplementing me with a conscious layer that gives me full clarity that my words are not coming from whatever comes up with words for us naturally.

I am unsure at this time I am even able to function naturally. I have been through pains going on in my brain dozens of times. I'm sure they are up to no good. I think they are establishing a dependency on them thinking for me. They have caused pains in just about every area of my brain. Some of them extremely intense. One they did to my reptilian brain that felt very unique. It was a pain but it had it's own distinct flavor to it. They told me they temporarily disabled most if not all of my reptilian brain. I'm unsure what effect that would have...

They incorporate my self into my programming. In other words what I would normally do is predicted and programmed into me sometimes. Like my answers to this thread. They were simulating my own answers with some small amount of alteration(If I'm detecting it right). As one may wonder why would they punish me for a post they helped propagate by mind controlling me. Well I think ETs may have worked in at least some form of free will and my own self in my programming. Or at least their presence may have caused that action(one theory).

They can mind control someone to the extent of being completely flawlessly seeming to be ones own self, even if they are analyzing such things with scrutiny in knowing it's possible they are not their thoughts. Analyzing how I was in my teens, most people I suspect have no suspicion about any thought in their own mind. They just naturally assume it's from them. So the methods don't even have to be that perfect, they can slip a lot by to an unsuspecting person.

As I understand mind control, it can program one's thought pattern to great extent. But the choice one makes, can it be programmed?

Choices can be fully controlled. Every single level of consciousness is on the table with advanced mind control. Discernment is a major thing they play with. Early in my situation they had me do some very stupid things to character assassinate me to my family, and make me seem crazy.

When I said programmed in the first post I mean in real time. Like my consciousness was programmed in real time. When some others say programmed they mean something like a variables embedded deeply into someones subconscious coding, so a "trigger" will inspire a certain reaction. I'm not sure if choices can be programmed by a non real time process. I know they can be altered by such a thing. But I'm not sure they can be perfectly programmed not in real time, for a later date to be activated.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

hi Omniverso ... thanks for sharing your experience.

You're welcome. Thanks for conveying this to me :) It's appreciated.

elysian

2nd May 2011, 13:36

Thanks again :)

So a mind controlled person most likely is not a hesitant person?

If the choices one makes are controlled one would assume that person would be very decisive right?

In my own experience I have many times tried to do the opposite to what all my senses tell me to do. It has been rather insignificant things but still. Just to test the outcome.
Have you experienced something similar? Tried to do the opposite to what your senses tell you?

Also when it comes to spontaneity. I would imagine a mind controlled person to feel as very spontaneous person.
Can you identify with that?

Cheers

9eagle9

2nd May 2011, 13:46

It is possible. And its possbile to take the steps necessary so that one is not influenced by anything. Even themselves.

Much of this sort of influence is a PROGRAM. What the word states . A PROGRAM that is running and has been running for a very long time. No operator or direct influence is necessary.Like a television program or program. Rather like pushing the on button on a VCR. In most cases no one or thing is standing behind the scenes with each individual driving the mind although the broadcast itself will suggest that there is to hide the fact a program is running. It isn't necessary. Mind control of that nature is designed to control a great deal of the human population simply because they have bothered to find out what the human psyche is composed of and best know how interfer with it on a small direct scale and and a large direct scale.

When you plant a program of the nature I'm talking about one can have the program and still abide by the 'rules of non-interference'. That is why it is a preferred means of manipulation.

Hi Omniverse,

Do you think it is possible to do some self programming?
Maybe in some way you can do some coding of your own to counter the programming/mind-control done to you?

I think its an interesting topic: "Self Programming".

gabbahh

2nd May 2011, 16:35

Dear Omni, I always read your posts with great interest. And if it was in the interest of your controllers to discredit you, I can say they have failed misserably. And I think I speak for a lot of us.
Maybe their interests for this forum are different: creating a certain image of you which would allow others of us to aks the right questions or be part of a sort of quest. Just guessing here.

I was told that the people with the highest clearance possible(and a bit below) are programmed as well. That they have to agree to be programmed to be granted access to the final layers of secrecy.
But if those people agree to be programmed, they in effect agree to voluntary slavery. However I always thought those people are looking for power, this power coming from knowledge they are trying to gain. So it feels to me they are giving up their freedom for knowledge/power. How can one have true power if one is not free? And what good is knowledge when you are a slave, and can not use that knowledge in the way you want.

For me this is a prime example why we should not be so obsessed with finding knowledge. It is pretty useless without wisdom. Most people obsessed with knowledge will never be wise and will never find any real truths, just more "facts" which lead to more questions. An exercise in futility. This is just my opinion, likely shaped by my own experiences.

They are able to run amuck in the coding. And it's ALL open source, and our mind does not have a firewall...

Is it possible to destroy this coding, for example by "proving" it wrong? (Take certain concepts/factoids which are TRUE to the program or mind , and use these TRUE concepts to prove FALSUM, or is the computer perfect/has a finite set of states)

I have been told many high level truths(or at least very smart falsities) and shortly after deleted my memory of it leaving me with how I felt after hearing such a thing(often one of those 'ohhhh that reallllllly makes sense' moments). I write down as much as I find valid(when I can) of the info I am told from whatever source(ETs or not). Otherwise it's often lost unless someone who has power over my mind brings it back(ETs[possibly], 'the cabal' etc). If only I had access to the memories of what they have told me while I was out and about....

Are these universal truths? Are there any universal truths they allowed you to remember? I would not mind if you would start a thread about these truths and let the forum show their light on them, and see if they hold true.

it's just a matter of them having advanced enough mind control technology. Which they do now...

So who are they? Are they without programming themselves? Or are they "possessed" by the Eye?

What you said about memories struck a cord. When it comes to certain fields of science, knowledge or insights on how things work I ofen have the feeling like I allready knew the newly received knowledge. Is this because certain knowledge resonates with you, therefore giving the feeling that it is "real", making it feel like it is familiar?

Or is it so that we allready know everything (spirit knows), but that our physical brain had not touched upon it yet (brain still needs to wake up to spirit)?

Or is this a sign of the spirit telling me time is not real?

Anyways, thanks for another great post,
Love, Ton

araucaria

2nd May 2011, 18:58

Thank you Omniverse for all your valuable input. I have a comment and a question.
First the comment: it was Pete Peterson I think who talked of 15% of the population who were immune to this sort of mind control. Many of them one would expect to find on forums like this.
Now the question. How does your contribution to Avalon fit in with your mind control? Something is clearly getting through, for which we are grateful, but what would be your thoughts on how and why? Thank you so much.

Omni

3rd May 2011, 08:33

Thanks again :)

So a mind controlled person most likely is not a hesitant person?

I suspect in most cases they are not. But,... at the beginning of my situation when they blindsided me with their capabilities, I was mind controlled to be extremely hesitant. The reason why is I was trapped in a mental matrix they designed for me(something I was completely broadsided by and very vulnerable). They implanted memories and made me think every action I did affected parts of the world. They went deep with this section of mind control and gave me no analytical thought to realize how ridiculous it was. I could not decide anything because they linked with implanted memories and other illusion tactics that every action I did would affect other people, with implanted memories they confirmed what I did affected other people and followed with strong mind control to surely trap me in it. I didn't know what action to pick because I was mind controlled into a very confused state. Some of the matrix's they have trapped me in are damaging to my credibility if I speak of them. Which is part of the intention. Anyway at one point in my time of being very strongly mind controlled I could not choose anything without minutes in between my choice. I would open the fridge and choosing every single item meant something to me. I didn't know which to pick because I didn't want to alter the attached reality to picking something without an educated choice. I would sit there with the fridge open for a few minutes just trying to decide what to eat. It was a very lame matrix. I wonder if they could hit me with it now. I suspect not. Once you have been strongly screwed over by mind control you develop a defense mechanism it seems. But that defense mechanism is not infallible.

If the choices one makes are controlled one would assume that person would be very decisive right?

In most cases I assume yes, but they could program it to be anything. If they knew you were looking for that type of behavior, they could do something else. They can make one flip flop on any view. For example with mind control they could convince anyone to be pro gay marriage or against gay marriage. It is that strong. Even if they are a fundamental christian... They are able to go that deep.

Safe to say most mind controlled people are mind controlled to one action quickly though. But it's not off the table for being otherwise.

In my own experience I have many times tried to do the opposite to what all my senses tell me to do. It has been rather insignificant things but still. Just to test the outcome.
Have you experienced something similar? Tried to do the opposite to what your senses tell you?

Not really, beyond things like impulse. With mind control they are able to completely negate self awareness or analytical thought. So if one was mind controlled strongly enough, they would not be able to generate the conscious awareness to remember to do such a thing. Also they have blatantly shown me that one action is worse, and one action is better. And I choose the better beforehand, and they control me to do the opposite. They don't do it a lot but have done it enough to show me they can do it.

Also when it comes to spontaneity. I would imagine a mind controlled person to feel as very spontaneous person.
Can you identify with that?

Cheers

The flavor of programming for the mind control can vary. The possibilities are really all the same as natural thought, even moreso then that. They could approach the mind control in many different ways. And they are very intelligent in their methods unless it is given little thought. With my situation it is given a good amount of thought. All the actions they do definitely have some significant time of natural thinking behind the programming and circumstances of such.

They are able to hit one with a multitude of different methods of mind control. Their approach could be very different depending on the situation. They may change it up a bit each time as they can(or say every 3rd time) because its less identifiable pattern-wise.

I'm sure there are patterns to their mind control. But at this point I have not spoken to enough mind control victims to identify as many patterns as I would like. One pattern is character assassination though. A mind controlled person likely has shot themselves in the foot credibility wise many times in their life.

It is possible. And its possbile to take the steps necessary so that one is not influenced by anything. Even themselves.

I do not believe that. How can you not be influenced by such things like the wind, or electrons, or smoke, or anything. If you are influenced by nothing, you might as well be nothing in my view. I do not believe anyone who claims they are influenced by nothing. If their mother died would they not be influenced? Sounds more like dead and numb to the world to me. I find the claim a fallacy personally.

As for not being affected by mind control, I don't know it's efficiency on people But the brain is a physical object. Safe to say some things work on all people. Like a bullet to the head. that works on all people. There is nobody who deflects the bullet and is not penetrated by it(unless its a crappy gun).

How can someone say they are free from all influence??? Are they not influenced by physics? Do they not react positively when they see a friendly dog? How is that even possible? Would anyone even want to live that way? I don't think I would.

Dear Omni, I always read your posts with great interest. And if it was in the interest of your controllers to discredit you, I can say they have failed misserably. And I think I speak for a lot of us.
Maybe their interests for this forum are different: creating a certain image of you which would allow others of us to aks the right questions or be part of a sort of quest. Just guessing here.

Well they did ask me which forum I wanted the best posts on. I chose Avalon when I found it. My posts on the David Icke forum are much less quality than what they have been here in the past.

They are able to run amuck in the coding. And it's ALL open source, and our mind does not have a firewall...

Is it possible to destroy this coding, for example by "proving" it wrong? (Take certain concepts/factoids which are TRUE to the program or mind , and use these TRUE concepts to prove FALSUM, or is the computer perfect/has a finite set of states)

Yes it is possible. Once a realization reaches terminal realization they may shift their methods to compensate. But it would have to be VERY conclusive. There are enough versions of reality that seem true enough they have many methods of countering anything one reads. Some things are just conclusive though. they would likely judge how valuable it is to stop someone from such a thing. If it was valuable they would research which sources they could gain such knowledge, and subvert them from being receptive to such things, or being subjected to them.

Are these universal truths? Are there any universal truths they allowed you to remember? I would not mind if you would start a thread about these truths and let the forum show their light on them, and see if they hold true.

Some of them have been of universal nature. Most have been specifics regarding things happening on Earth. I doubt they would allow me to remember them all at once. Possible they will allow me to remember them in a compartmentalized fashion so it is divided amongst more clicks to receive such knowledge. I try to write everything down though. Some things they just wont let me say to people though. Early on I would agree to let it be deleted from my mind before they told me it. But eventually with ET guidance(supposedly) I gathered wisdom in saying no to them when they say such things. But that is with a different approach by them For example they will say "If we tell you something, you have to agree not to repeat it". I will always say no because it would cancel out any chance of me figuring it out and being able to speak of it. in other words it would by default make whatever they told me, something I could not speak about. So if they told me of predictive programmig for example, I could not speak of it because I agreed not to speak of it prior to hearing it.

it's just a matter of them having advanced enough mind control technology. Which they do now...

So who are they? Are they without programming themselves? Or are they "possessed" by the Eye?

I'm unsure who they are in full. If there is ET origins, or if it's just humans. Safe to say they are very technologically advanced at this time though. And also safe to say many are possessed. I'm unsure who is at the very top though. I'm not sure I will gain that knowledge. It's hard to know that. How can you confirm it? I'm not aware you can 100%. But that could be a wrong thought. I am noticing(they are allowing me some analytical thought) that my mind is being altered at this time in terms of discernment.

What you said about memories struck a cord. When it comes to certain fields of science, knowledge or insights on how things work I ofen have the feeling like I allready knew the newly received knowledge. Is this because certain knowledge resonates with you, therefore giving the feeling that it is "real", making it feel like it is familiar?

Or is it so that we allready know everything (spirit knows), but that our physical brain had not touched upon it yet (brain still needs to wake up to spirit)?

Or is this a sign of the spirit telling me time is not real?

Anyways, thanks for another great post,
Love, Ton

I tend to believe some knowledge is encoded within us. I do not think it all is though, or at least it's not all as easily found as some other parts. It is possible there is a sort of "RAM" of the soul, which holds this knowledge from past lives. It is also possible we have a connection to a spirit of some sort that gains us such knowledge when we hear it. I do strongly suspect there is something embedded within us that knows things, waiting to be reawakened consciously this lifetime. At one point in my life I would pick up books and feel like I had read the whole thing. This is gone now due to my programming. It is possible they programmed me to keep me from what I would do or know or have access to naturally if I was allowed a natural life...

Thank you Omniverse for all your valuable input. I have a comment and a question.
First the comment: it was Pete Peterson I think who talked of 15% of the population who were immune to this sort of mind control. Many of them one would expect to find on forums like this.

I am skeptical of the immune to mind control claim, but it's possible.

Now the question. How does your contribution to Avalon fit in with your mind control? Something is clearly getting through, for which we are grateful, but what would be your thoughts on how and why? Thank you so much.

I am unsure. The possibilities are vast. Safe to say Avalon is the only forum I have been allowed to speak without at least a few events of character assassination that strongly cause unrest in others or hurt how people view me(here they have been minimal, mostly directed to Bill Ryan in threads he would read in hoping he doesn't have interest in interviewing me). Claiming ET presence gains you enemies. On the Icke forum I have a team of skeptics who follow me around and try to bait me into fights, or subvert my threads. They even admit to doing it. On Avalon the people are much more wise to the truth(although not perfect, nor am I as I am an Avalonian as well). On Icke it's much more troll and disruption filled. The more potential to gain enemies for me, the more they will use their tactics in my words. I think either way I am being allowed some sort of grace in that I am not subverted too strongly at Avalon.

loveandgratitude

3rd May 2011, 09:26

Thank you so much for your insights and knowledge. Thank you for sharing.

So many questions, I hardly know where to begin. So I am going to keep this really simple.

1 - Were you a victim of TRAUMA BASED MIND CONTROL and was it Satanic?
2- Did this start as a child and were you parents involved?
3- DId you break away from the programming at the age of 30 and over?
4- Where is your Free will in all of this?
5- Have you had any de-programming done?
6 - Do you have multiple personalities?
7- Do you know what your triggers were/are?
8 - Were you given drug or do you still take any drugs?
9- Have you had an spiritual experiences?
10 - If you could wish for anything in this life, what would it be?

Omni

3rd May 2011, 10:43

Thank you so much for your insights and knowledge. Thank you for sharing.

So many questions, I hardly know where to begin. So I am going to keep this really simple.

1 - Were you a victim of TRAUMA BASED MIND CONTROL and was it Satanic?

Yes. They have caused me a lot of trauma. After about a year or two they started numbing me to it. but still did the horrible things to me.

As for it being satanic, I don't know. I'm not sure what Satan is or if he/she/it exists. Safe to say it was very dark and horrible though. Like making me believe I would end up in a loony bin in Thailand not able to speak to anyone knowing my language for the rest of my life, stuck in a straight jacket, drugged, and also mentally tortured liberally. That is just one of MANY horrible things they made me believe in the early goings of all this happening to me. I'm not sure they could do such a thing now. I was unsure about a lot early on. And what you are unsure about is very vulnerable to manipulation with mind control. If you have stronger views on something it is not as much on the table, but on the table nonetheless.

2- Did this start as a child and were you parents involved?

Yes they did start as a child. They have told me they found my mother prior to me being born(ETs). She has told me she would speak to the stars begging that ETs take her away. She also said when she was pregnant with me she said "the world needs someone" in regards to who I would become. Not that I am saying I am a world changer to a high degree. But it may have had a role in my situation. Although my parents were oblivious to most of this stuff until I talked to them about it.

3- DId you break away from the programming at the age of 30 and over?
I am 27 :) Not there yet. If I did break from the programing I suspect it would be them allowing such a thing.

4- Where is your Free will in all of this?
It is considered at times and weighs in on my actions occasionally. but only valued by one side of the coin. I have been given programming options for myself. As well as asked what I want out of certain things. I would say I have a small amount of free will in my situation.

5- Have you had any de-programming done?
Yes. But I was still mind controlled in real time(what I term programmed, I guess I should start saying "in real time" always now). I have been programmed or deprogrammed of many things. Things like stress, PTSD, etc. things of that nature I have been deprogrammed of, but they can reprogram them in me at any time with their capabilities.

6 - Do you have multiple personalities?
Nope. On the Icke forums I have a different conscious base energy. But it's the same personality, just opens doors to me for example, calling someone ignorant and closed minded when they say I'm insane, instead of politely stating my contrasting views, and in a classy manner.

7- Do you know what your triggers were/are?
My programming is done in real time. So essentially the need for triggers is obsolete. They have not shown me much regarding triggers so it is one blindspot in my mind control experience. I can imagine about them, but I don't have extensive in depth examples done to me with first hand experience.

I think triggers are mainly done with programming that is done once, and lasts throughout the day. And as I said, my situation is done in real time. So they can cause the same reaction a trigger would by just mind controlling me in real time how they want to.

8 - Were you given drug or do you still take any drugs?
Yes I have been drugged. And yes I do take drugs on occasion(only mostly harmless ones in moderation). Only alcohol(like once a month or two, I buy a bottle). Cigarettes(I smoke). And Cannabis(I buy some about once every 2 months). My situation is horrible enough they have programmed me to want ANY kind of feeling good. So Cannabis and alcohol are a way for me to enjoy my life. It's kind of sad :( I would say 95%+ of my time I am sober though. They are also able to negate any good feeling you get from any drug. They have shown me what they can do in that regard. There is no escaping sobriety when they don't want you to(and have control). To elaborate further on this, they have controlled my "buzz" of alcohol and cannabis at times fluctuating it up and down within 10 seconds. I have gone from sober to drunk to sober in 10 seconds before. I don't get smashed to be clear. I take like 3 shots to get a buzz and I'm on with things.

They mind controlled me to start smoking cannabis at a young age. They like how it affects memory. They also like how it character assassinates people who openly say they smoke it(in similar situations). They also like the chance of me being arrested. There are numerous pros and cons of cannabis. But it is a a very very subtle sign of them. They will mind control anyone to smoke it in their young years(and keep smoking it) if they identify they are a threat.

I don't do any hard drugs. I'm too afraid to(what would they do to me on acid? I don't want to know...). Nor do I feel I would gain much from it at this point.

They have drugged me with many substances as well against my will. At least I get something out of cannabis and alcohol(at times). One time they drugged me with something they said was a derivative of heroin. Basically all the bad qualities, with none of the good feeling. I could barely keep my eyes open. I was in a distorted world. Everything was 'blurry' consciously. I could not think clearly at all. I just went to sleep. That was easy enough with the qualities of the drug they subjected me to.

9- Have you had an spiritual experiences?
One would have to define spiritual experiences. but I would say yes. All the time. To me(if I had to solidify a stance on it) anything that touches you on an emotional level deeply, is a spiritual experience. I have had many.

10 - If you could wish for anything in this life, what would it be?

I would wish this planet to be revolutionized. A utopia with interstellar presence openly. Of course that would include me being a free willed, soul bearing and soul affected individual as well. I would wish whoever does these bad things to me, to be not in power anymore, and people worthy of such a title and position in their place.

If I am thinking not as ambitiously, I would just want to live a life being free. To have financial security, too.

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 12:46

bennycog

3rd May 2011, 13:40

My main man omni, your a bit of tresure here buddy. I am certain there is not a ind in here that has read your words and becmoe intrigued. I am coming down with something bad today so this will be my only post here tonight. i have been compuslvey shaking for the past 3 hours.. throat is giving me hell.. so time to power up on some not so good medicenal tablets (nothing natural around) and crash in bed.. send me some healing please.
I qoute your post because i think you need to speak to Bob dean through bill or kerry.. and it would be a great conversation to watch.

" I also do not have access to my memories of such right now, other than GFoL stuff which I try to not speak of out of respect to Darla. I didn't like how I affected her energy by posting my views of the GFoL so I stopped... Even if they are true(which I am not arrogant enough to say they are for sure)...

As for other methods, I'm sure they exist. How complex everything is is very inspiring and majestic to me. The universe is very beautiful even though as the Jedi Mind Tricks guy says "Couldn't understand how RAW the hologram is". The universe on our level is pretty raw at times too... But quite beautiful..."

respect to you omni..

ulli

3rd May 2011, 13:54

9eagle9 said:
When you hit the time between 28-30, you are going to start experiencing some real break down , something that will occur naturally that is not programming, and its going to oppose the influence, and it can't be stopped, halted or arrested, by either yourself or them, and you will really experience some inner hell until you come to some understanding of what is occurring.

sooo true! Astrologers call this the first Saturn return. And Saturn will suggest to you to become responsible for yourself.
No more handlers.
You might miss them for a while but once you have tasted true freedom you'll never trade it for anyone's else's program.
You are Omni-verse, but Uni-soul.
Finding your true essence, your soul, is like peeling an onion.
There IS a core at the center.

The One

3rd May 2011, 14:06

The longer I live Omniverse, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude to me is more important than facts. It is more important then the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important then appearance, giftedness, or skill. The remarkable thing is, we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we embrace for that day. We cannot change our past. We cannot change the fact that people may act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is ten percent what happens to me and ninety percent how I react to it. And so it is with you. We are in charge of our attitudes.

Omni

3rd May 2011, 14:43

Episodes of erratic behavior are common with those who are mind influenced as they waiver between influence and moving under their own volition. If you observe them long enough you can see the shift in them. The are present and then they aren't or rather something else is.

My behavior was fully controlled at the start. Every action I did was controlled.

Omni,

Don't think I don't sympathise with you, Or that I think your delusional or anything but I have to ask you why you put up with this?
Because there is no other foreseeable option.

Why don't you take the necessary and steps to remove yourself from this sort of influence.
What steps might those be?

It is possible.
I'd like that to be proven.

You are influenced to think you programming is done in real time, but its not really.
How would you surmise you are qualified to make this statement? How are you so sure it is fact? They will control my body if I ask them to, they will control my reaction to my body being controlled, I have had complex multidimensional reactions to my body being controlled throughout the day. Can they program say, 8 different reactions, in order to a trigger? I logically deduce you can only program one reaction to a trigger at a time. I am VERY good at monitoring my mind's dynamics at this stage due to how much I have witnessed of it being tinkered with. Safe to say it's not a knee jerk reaction of 'pre-programming' when I react to things a good deal of the time.

Everything points to it being done in real time. For example the telepathic conversations. You think they could program telepathic conversations in me say, while I sleep, and have them happen at the perfect time of the day for it(sometimes in between breaths and sentences of people when they speak to me for example)? You think they could program my consciousness speaking to beings or AI telepathically before it happens? They would mind control me in real time during the conversations, and again, it is not natural programming which would likely be a knee jerk reaction from a trigger. They at times have dimmed my entire subconscious, and mind during a conversation, holding my mind in real time from being able to think ANYTHING at all, until they allow me to. They have shown me without a shadow of a doubt they are capable of mind control done in real time. It's been proven to me...

They have controlled my mind in real time pretty conclusively. They have shown me curves of consciousness that I don't think could be programmed into my psyche before they happened. It's pretty obviously done in real time. What I mean by curves of consciousness is they can take a variable, a feeling for example, and fluctuate it up and down, they showed me this on a curve very slowly ascending upward followed by telepathic conversation about it. Everything points to this being done in real time. It would have to be the most convincing illusion I have ever witnessed if it is not done in real time, and that really says something...

I think if it was not done in real time, my mind would be moreso my own while it is happening, there would be an element of myself involved moreso, my conscious energy, my essence. I would also be able to find gliches in it with analytical thought. They negate my analytical thought in real time. The mind is extremely complex with many layers. They have in obvious fashion controlled every single layer of my mind in real time.

It is more accurately said as direct mind control, not programming. As the word programming has roots in the premise you speak of. Likely done while someone sleeps, implanting triggers and such. Controlling it all in real time offers a much more sophisticated control. And I highly doubt anyone can break it. I was told by the AI I deal with that the programming I am dealing with is the same programming as small Greys(engineered ones). That is the origin of me using the word "programmed". it means two entirely different things...

They have controlled my body language while I speak, flawlessly WHILE controlling what I say. I mean my eyes, my arms, my mouth, my eyebrows, my legs, my whole body. And this is flawlessly to my exact speech going on. This is reacting to what other people say flawlessly. This is paying attention to when they are looking at me. This is done in real time 99.99999% chance IMHO. Are you saying this is not done in real time? That they can program complex actions done by your body into your day before they happen? They can program the body movements catering to any old conversation you have with someone knowing what they are going to say beforehand and placing the body control flawlessly into your day before it happens? If they are that advanced I tend to think they have achieved real time mind control and programming as well...

They have given me trains of thought, and then deleted them from my mind right before I speak. One thing they have done is give me a conscious understanding my train of thought will be deleted in x amount of time(understood by a conceptual curve knowing when it will be deleted, a feeling, not a number), so I have to spit out whatever I wanted to say before that time period is reached, or it will be deleted abruptly.
Not to mention they synthesize pains and other horrible stuff to me in real time, while speaking to me about it. While completely controlling my mind to it, in real time. With all due respect, I don't think you know the full story.

It's a program. And that's how the program is set up. It just runs without any direct intervention and the programs can be broken.
You are not speaking of my situation I think... You are speaking of older programming technology. Not the cutting edge of 2011 I'm lead to believe. As Fred Burks' CIA contact said(paraphrasing) 'they are advanced enough now they can program or deprogram instantly'. This means they can heighten the efficiency of their programming by doing it in real time. It cuts down on unforeseeable things causing a failure in the agenda of the programming.

I mean you say that your situation is horrible so why aren't you taking the steps available to getting out from under this influence?
What steps might those be? I've tried everything I've heard minus building a cage in my room...

If you have enough of your own volition to post here, you will certainly have that iota of willingness to have someone help you get out of this mess.
My posting here was planned. They lead me through the internet, ascending from forum to forum. Reaching the Apex(in their view), Project Avalon. In every forum I ascended to my posts and mind control/programming got better plateauing at Avalon. But I certainly have willingness to be helped. Can you do it? I doubt it. But I'm open to it.

You have an advantage that you are consciously aware of what is going on, use that to your advantage.
They willingly gave me that advantage. I'm told it was ET intervention that caused it... I don't know what to believe, but I have been trained in what they can do with mind control, and things in the same category of deception and manipulation.

Most people who experience what you are going through are not consciously aware of it . Or they are aware of it but have been influenced to think they influence is something other than what it is.

I fully agree. Please don't take my posts as not seeing the wisdom of your words. I see it. I just don't think you have much knowledge of what I am experiencing in terms of what is going on under the hood. Pretty safe to say it's done in real time by my perspective. Unless you think they have a specific reaction planned for every single possible future post on this forum and others. Do you think the could predict a response for every single possible post on all the forums I go to during the day? I mean word for word. They also at times control my hands and make me type things I am not thinking. this is done in real time. For example they can isolate your awareness to your mind, automate a fabrication of the understanding of what your fingers are typing, and control what you are typing to be something different than what your mind thinks you are typing. This, again, is likely done in real time. I would bet my life(in saying I die if I lose, not lose all rights to my life) that it is done in real time if I would get something out of winning that bet. It's been basically proven to me. Unless they have access to a universal hard drive that depicts every single action done by anyone in the future,... That is the only way they would be able to program me not in real time reacting to each individual situation I find myself in, that they are mind controlling me in. It's every single dam thing I do! And it's not uniform. They alter how I perceive things, and feel about things fluctuating at times. They have given me a near full access window into what they can do with real time mind control.

I mean its apparent this is a corded in mess going back through generations, tied right into the matrix game that has been in play for yeah so many thousand years, and your mother's own past lives, and you are corded into various kinds of 4th dimensional yurk but its not impossible to break this sort of thing, its done everyday. They have to have something to attach, tap in, tie into, once you find that their access is cut off.

The tapping into is the coding of my mind. I don't see any way to stop such a thing.

Someone can even belay this crap enough for you to get moving under your own volition long enough for you to begin initiating a process. What's you willingly enter into that process this begins to break down fairly quickly. YOu may think I'm full of ****, but in all honesty no one can clearly see their own **** when they are standing in the midst of it. That is why you need a second party to give you a hand up

Thank you for your post. I do value it. I just don't think you know what I'm dealing with. I surely don't think you are full of crap. I think you know what you are talking about. I just don't think you are talking about my situation. If you can prove what you say to me feel free. I'm open to it. I could use the help if you can help.

I have to tell you this....in all fairness......When you hit the time between 28-30, you are going to start experiencing some real break down , something that will occur naturally that is not programming, and its going to oppose the influence, and it can't be stopped, halted or arrested, by either yourself or them, and you will really experience some inner hell until you come to some understanding of what is occurring.
Many folks at www.areyoutargeted.com conferences are above 30. I am speaking with a guy who is 37 right now who deals with real time programming/mind control. It mostly stopped on a dime after he read a fortune cookie not long ago saying he will have a good rest of his life. That doesn't seem like programming eroding to me.

I think we are speaking apples and oranges. "Programming" when spoken often means to people what you are speaking of. Something likely done while someone is sleeping forming triggers and coding ones reaction matrix. What I deal with in my view, is obviously done in real time. My reactions are not uniform and are not one dimensional, as trigger programming would suggest IMHO(logically deducing such things).

That will last well into your late 30's and then fold over again. At that time it folds over again I can't hazard a guess what will happen to you then. More so when this naturally occurring expression occurs and begins to exert its own expression it that will make the situation you are in at this moment seem like a cake walk unless you intervene on your own behalf.

I will keep this in mind.

Here is a video regarding mind control. It's a CIA mind control video of implanted electrodes in animals. I don't think age has anything to do with it. It's an applied physical science. And it is done in real time. And this was in the 60's. Thank you to the Avalonian who exposed this video to me(I forget who but I'm grateful).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2FFSAhTcA

Thank you for your post eagle. I appreciate it, even though my opinion is you aren't speaking of my situation, but speaking of others in the past who were subjected to inferior technology.

-Omni

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The longer I live Omniverse, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude to me is more important than facts. It is more important then the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important then appearance, giftedness, or skill. The remarkable thing is, we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we embrace for that day. We cannot change our past. We cannot change the fact that people may act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is ten percent what happens to me and ninety percent how I react to it. And so it is with you. We are in charge of our attitudes.
My attitude is controlled unfortunately. But I do find truths in your words.

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 14:50

I am speaking from a place of similar experience. However I managed to shake it off before it wound itself into me to the extent that you are expressing. I dare say the little bastard(s)are still picking up their ugly little heads from the far side of the galaxy as they stepped over the line, came out of hiding and one expressed itself physically in my room one night. That is an outrage and intrusion against one's personal space, what is occurring to you is a heinous form of intrusion.

And yes there are means to alleviate it. If there were not I'd not be here right now. The body of my whole life's work is based in it.

I would have to question why you can shake off your control long enough to interact with others here in the forum? I think a dialog about this is necessary. For you and others who are made aware of your situation.

Omni

3rd May 2011, 14:55

nd yes there are means to alleviate it. If there were not I'd not be here right now. The body of my whole life's work is based in it.

I will listen to any advice you have. How do I stop it?

I would have to question why you can shake off your control long enough to interact with others here in the forum? I think a dialog about this is necessary. For you and others who are made aware of your situation.
They control me here, too. My posts in this thread were approved in some form, or allowed due to ET intervention.

Edit: I liked the tags of this thread:

* balance
* chakra
* charles
* compassion
* consciousness
* consent
* day
* discernment
* experience
* free
* free will
* heart
* internet
* life
* mind
* obama
* pain
* programming
* pyramid
* questions
* race
* secrecy
* secret
* technology
* voice
* world

Calz

3rd May 2011, 14:55

:pop2: :pop2: :pop2:

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 15:10

elysian

3rd May 2011, 15:13

Omni,

Do you think you have an implant?

Also have you ever considered if you are an AI yourself?

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 15:19

Yeah I have heard it heard desribed just that way way and I'm not hugely versed in astrology but it does seem to match that time frame that astrology gives unerringly. Its a form of spiritual puberty that would, I guess you would say, begins to mature when it starts folding over at the age of 38 or so. Add that vector in and all hell breaks loose without some sort of understanding as to what is occurring. The emergent spirit could be confused for yet another layer of conditioning and when that essence emerges and begins imposing or exerting influence on that conditioning ...lol..I can only reflect on the hair ball mess I was in during that time.

And that's true, part of the program issues a false sense of empowerment that is NOTHING like the real thing.

9eagle9 said:
When you hit the time between 28-30, you are going to start experiencing some real break down , something that will occur naturally that is not programming, and its going to oppose the influence, and it can't be stopped, halted or arrested, by either yourself or them, and you will really experience some inner hell until you come to some understanding of what is occurring.

sooo true! Astrologers call this the first Saturn return. And Saturn will suggest to you to become responsible for yourself.
No more handlers.
You might miss them for a while but once you have tasted true freedom you'll never trade it for anyone's else's program.
You are Omni-verse, but Uni-soul.
Finding your true essence, your soul, is like peeling an onion.
There IS a core at the center.

Omni

3rd May 2011, 15:24

:pop2: :pop2: :pop2:

Cal is well intentioned by Pop corn isn't the cure ;) He will one day learn that Margaritas are the cure.

Seriously though...Theres a basic premise to this all that is tailored to the individual. Basically something has highlighted itself regarding you at or around the age of four concering you and your maternal guardianship. If you recall what it is I'd like you to express it.

If you want to take this to PM I don't mind as sometimes this probing is of an intensely personal nature. If you find it helpful to yourself or others to keep it out in the open I don't mind that either. If you don't. I don't want you to feel more uncomfortable than what you really are feeling. If you have already posted something of that nature, directing my attention to it will suffice. But understand if you do not want to really do this, there's not a whole lot I can do for you . To do otherwise would be just amount to me imposing on a free will that is already imposed on.

There is also another part of you that I want to bring forward to express itself, because its lost in all this influence and it can be your greatest ally.

I want to know about your mother and how your relationship with her was as a child (maternal bonding is a type of cording in), from there you and I both will be examining a contract that is existing between you and her. Your mother on a personal level, your pov concernign her.

And...I do this with the understanding your pals there may come gunning for me.

All the better.

Well my relationship with my mother has been overall good. but it has been greatly subverted. They have never allowed me to fully express myself to my mother. Inside I know what I feel, but they wont let me express it. I have done it before and broken it because I was fed up with it, but it was too painful internally to justify doing it again. Not like baggage painful, just REALLY hard to do. The gravities involved in doing such were very very uncomfortable. There is massive resistance to openness with my mother. They wont let me feel love for her either. Not for years really. Before all this happened I was allowed to at least FEEL love for her, although not really express it minus an obligatory "I love you too". They dont let me feel love.... There is more to that but that is where I draw the line for public posting.

They deleted my memories of when I was 4 and before that. So again, your wisdom shows through by logical deduction to me. I do feel you know what you are talking about. I just don't think you are speaking of exactly what I am subjected to due to you saying it's not done in real time. It most certainly is in my case at least partially. That doesn't mean there are not correlations in the tactics between pre-programming, and real time programming. Like the mother aspect for example.

I did feel a bit of disdain for my mother when young, because she married a guy who molested me when young. I believe I was older than 4. They kept those memories... Deleted the rest minus a few. My memories I think start around 5-7. For example I have gathered I was telepathic when young. I could read minds. I could tell what my parents were thinking a good deal of the time. I could feel their emotion. This mostly stopped after I was molested. I am told the guy who molested me was mind controlled by my contacts.

After attempting to regain memories of when I was 4 right now I did get one. I would beg my mother every day to not go to work, because the douchebag she married abused me in multiple ways... That is my strongest memory of when I was 4.

I naturally wanted to speak in a PM. But people may learn from this so I must post it publicly. I trust nobody at Avalon will torment me about being molested, as I was on the Icke forum when they mind controlled me to say it.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Omni,

Do you think you have an implant?

I believe I do. For example the controlling of my body. That speaks implant to me.

Also have you ever considered if you are an AI yourself?

lol. No I haven't. I am not being allowed to wrap my head around that much right now. What are your thoughts on it? I'd like a window into your subconscious right about now(or when you wrote that). Mine doesn't have much coding in it in terms of simulating or figuring out what that means.

Calz

3rd May 2011, 15:28

Cal is well intentioned by Pop corn isn't the cure ;) He will one day learn that Margaritas are the cure.

Every time I hit your Margarita Lounge I end up hungover ... on the floor ... with a dirty sock in my mouth!!!

:washing:

I have *no doubt* both of you know I am simply expressing my appreciation from the "cheap seats" of the information you are both bringing (not only here in this thread but on a regular basis).

Information exchange like this is ... well ... why we are all here (imho).

Thank you both. :thank_you2:

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 15:51

AWESOME, OMNI. @#$%**&^ AWESOME. Get back here with Pop corn and dirty socks Cal. I'll brb as I want to post out some things that YOU have expressed, Omni.

And to thank those whose presence is bringing bear to this, if we continue to sort of hold that tiller this should be something very good indeed.

elysian

3rd May 2011, 17:03

Also have you ever considered if you are an AI yourself?
lol. No I haven't. I am not being allowed to wrap my head around that much right now. What are your thoughts on it? I'd like a window into your subconscious right about now(or when you wrote that). Mine doesn't have much coding in it in terms of simulating or figuring out what that means.

I think it is a relevant question. not that I think you are an AI :) but anyways,
I thought of it because of your earlier post. Were you are practically saying there is nothing you can do to prevent this mind control that is being done to you.
It came to me that the only way there would be no chance for you to rid yourself from this control was if you in fact were an AI.

The only way I see a solution for you is through your higher self.
The higher self can solve any problems. In your situation though I believe you need external help from someone to communicate with your higher self as it seems you wouldn't be able to connection yourself.
Someone like Dolores Cannon or Robert Bruce could probably help you I am sure.

Calz

3rd May 2011, 17:17

sooo true! Astrologers call this the first Saturn return. And Saturn will suggest to you to become responsible for yourself.
No more handlers.
You might miss them for a while but once you have tasted true freedom you'll never trade it for anyone's else's program.
You are Omni-verse, but Uni-soul.
Finding your true essence, your soul, is like peeling an onion.
There IS a core at the center.

I became enchanted with "new age material" about 30 years ago.

Most of that has fallen away.

What remains ... and has been proven to me by years of study ... yes there is a basis for astrology.

Forget the horoscope you see in the newspaper (they do the best they can based on sun sign alone).

Too complex to "convince" anyone in a forum post.

I suggest staying open minded and if inclined ... persue it on your own. That is the only way you will become convinced of it's validity.

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 17:26

ell my relationship with my mother has been overall good. but it has been greatly subverted. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<They have never allowed me to fully express myself to my mother. Inside I know what I feel, but they wont let me express it. I have done it before and broken it because I was fed up with it, but it was too painful internally to justify doing it again. Not like baggage painful, just REALLY hard to do. The gravities involved in doing such were very very uncomfortable. There is massive resistance to openness with my mother. They wont let me feel love for her either. Not for years really. Before all this happened I was allowed to at least FEEL love for her, although not really express it minus an obligatory "I love you too". They dont let me feel love....

There is more to that but that is where I draw the line for public posting.

(GOOD. You've set a boundary and I'm respecting it. Because this is what part of what we are talking about is setting boundaries and having them respected).

They deleted my memories of when I was 4 and before that. <<<<They would, because prior to that time you are relatively unspoiled and they'd not want you to access that time.

So again, your wisdom shows through by logical deduction to me. I do feel you know what you are talking about. I just don't think you are speaking of exactly what I am subjected to due to you saying it's not done in real time. It most certainly is in my case at least partially. That doesn't mean there are not correlations in the tactics between pre-programming, and real time programming. Like the mother aspect for example. <<< You are correct and those need to be untangled from each other. This is you , your SELF expressing this, and I'm glad to see it. That is what I'm pinging in on your uncondtioned expression from your conditioned expression. This is easier to do if you were present but...this is workable.

I did feel a bit of disdain for my mother when young, because she married a guy who molested me when young. I believe I was older than 4. They kept those memories... Deleted the rest minus a few. My memories I think start around 5-7. For example I have gathered I was telepathic when young. I could read minds. I could tell what my parents were thinking a good deal of the time. I could feel their emotion. This mostly stopped after I was molested. I am told the guy who molested me was mind controlled by my contacts.

You are dead on. I'm getting he was too but waiting for you, YOURSELF (instead of them) to say it is the most important part. There had to be a infection vector and that's it. So we'll roll with this one. . That is what I would call an infection vector or sight right there. Because you are (and you still are) telepathic you picked up his programming the same way a child would hear verbal conditioning of programming from a parent. They nearly always use indirect means to do this. They are limited. They can't come in at you through an inviolate place so use what is occuring in the 3d world to do so. And a child is basically defenseless against it when done this way (which is why they do it) Its the same as if a 'ordinary' parent or care giver scripted you. And it sounds as if you were put in this person's care? Your own telepathy picked up on whatever was going on with him. A child doesn't know how to use that sort of discernment . My own parents put me in the position of just a weird caregiver. No abuse sexual or otherwise but because they were so funky it bugged me out for years.

If the molestation is sexual in nature they are grabbing at hugely influencial place. They are tampering with internal creative energies and sending them all over the map as well.

I mentioned in the Inelia thread that my mother was a walk in and that is how I was influenced to a certain extent via whatever weirdness was going on with her. My only saving grace is that I was not maternally bonded to my mother from birth , so that cording in, the channel they use through her was faulty so the conditioning ended up being faulty enough for me to break. They are not infallible. She got me by the seat of the pants rather than by the balls (if you can excuse the expression) . Well the seat of my pants tore ...and that allowed me to have some clarity to see what was occuring around me.

How telepathic are you now when it is allowed to express? Consider it a phone line (telepathy-telephone) or a modem, and we will just find an appropriate means to hang up the 'phone'. To help you understand and to let you know you have more control over this than you have been conditioned to think....they will use our own enabledness against you. I'm not suggesting this will just hang up the problem either because there's layering and conditioning. Removing one layer will expose more so like Uli mentioned earlier its like peeling an onion back. However it does allow for a auto program to run a great deal of the time. Its all progressive but its all to the good.

After attempting to regain memories of when I was 4 right now I did get one. I would beg my mother every day to not go to work, because the douchebag she married abused me in multiple ways... That is my strongest memory of when I was 4.

This is its own conditioning on its own. Its horrible, and you would have suffered some hardships from this alone without the assitance of your 'pals' there. That too is another modem they call in on. And basically your inner stuff has served you well because people have ended up in padded rooms the rest of their life for less than this. So you have a valuable resource . You. You have expressed yourself in a way throughout your narration that wasn't influenced.

Understand I don't ever want to give you the impression I think that this is all in your head. But the modem (for lack of a better word) they use is a part of your mental, emotional early trauma is the modem that their programming and direct influence . Because it is yours...well we will find you a way to press the hang up on it.

I naturally wanted to speak in a PM. But people may learn from this so I must post it publicly. I trust nobody at Avalon will torment me about being molested, as I was on the Icke forum when they mind controlled me to say it.

No Omni, torment about being molested should not be tolerated here as too too too many people have been subjected to that sort of thing here and elsewhere. My honest inclination is to rip the face off anyone who would profess to be of well intentioned 'spiritual nature' and then claw at someone elses woundedness like that. Because face clawing is not any well received in the forum than molestation abuse I trust that other well intentioned members and moderators will back us up on that....if you have the courage to do this than others will support you and create a safe space for you to do so. If at any time these is not happening, you have the self authority to make the decision to take this processe else where. . Please though if this gets too much in other respects, step back from it, revert to PM or take a rest from it. This stuff isn't formed over night and a few interent conversations isn't going to cure it but we don't need to make it harder for you than what it is.

Because I am on the internet it makes it awkward to really really have a drawing effect. I would also want you to find someone who is versed in cellular memory and knows about the insididiousness of direct or indirect influence that can help you directly and in a direct way.

Not done yet but going to let this integrate a little so the next layer comes up without my fingers and mind going a mile a minute. And the next part I'm going to express is ...going to be a bit more delicate and maybe a bit pain impinging, so I want to express it with as much sensitivity as possible. We will again be separating your expression from them, folding it over and reducing it down

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 17:35

Going to read back over some of your pre existing materials to see where your SELF is expressing itself at.

Omni

3rd May 2011, 17:43

Going to read back over some of your pre existing materials to see where your SELF is expressing itself at.

Ok. At this time I tend to think even when it seems like me, it's them simulating me. They at times when I write posts show me that my mind is not operating normally. But that part I could be wrong about. I have gone over in depth what they have done to me(well more accurately they have done it for me with memories as they are all compartmentalized). It's 100% they can do things in real time. Other than that I find your wisdom to be just that, wisdom. Well I guess knowledge but wisdom is in there too.

Thanks for all your help. I appreciate it.

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 17:54

And of course at any given time you are more than entitled to ask where I come from. I don't say much about myself on the boards because I don't want people to think my title is any sort of authority and banging my own drum isn't really anything of interest to me. My accomplishments concerning such things are my authority. I want people to see my expression not my labels, titles etc either spiritually imposed or otherwise. So I don't preface it with what I know to be my own entitlements that is manipulation to the naive mind as well.

I do have the self authority to mediate and abate things of this nature or at least begin to facilitate the process. YOu have the self authority to refuse it. As with anyone else it is up to you to follow through on it. That is where your free will enters , I will not impinge on your free will . I can work it on this level of existence and work on others all we need all of us is a willingness to do so and others who are standing by and wishing you well bring to bear their own influence on the matter because we are never alone in this.

I have observed them for a very long time. It is my own more clearly expressed (without conditioning) self that allows me to sense these things. I can work within a belief system because most of those that they impose on us are all the same too. so if you have any questions please don't be afraid to ask them. I don't hide what I am or what I do, I figure people will figure it out on their own if they are paying attention...or they won't.

But I've had similar experiences, and have worked with a lot of others who have experienced to varying degrees because this is programming, influence, conditioning ....it essentially works all the same way from minor self inflicted influence to major matters like outrightly directed infuences a few of which have inflicted physical harm on me. A few have attempted to kill me outright or at least damage me in some fashion. A few detail change but those are things I've expressed many times on the board. It all works the same way because it is all ultimately sourced back to the same place. And this is how they've operated for a thousand years .They never deviate from it. The universe speaks to us through patterns and this is one of the patterns expressed which is why it is so easy to spot.

Rocky_Shorz

3rd May 2011, 18:04

Hi Omni,

one thing I found when they were looking my way last weekend, the "heart pounding" adrenaline they pump to see what you are afraid of...

I send them a blank screen...

I turn on America's Funniest home videos, cartoons etc...

if they want to take their operating time on multi trillion dollar computer to look into me, I show them what I want... not what they want to see...

Rocky_Shorz

3rd May 2011, 18:27

each time they look I drop a little more of a computer virus in... ;)

they aren't that tough...

(oops meant to do an add on edit...)

9eagle9

3rd May 2011, 18:32

Nice point. I know they don't like humor very much, they operate on a need to be taken veddy veddy seriously and humor doesn't allow it. I try to stress to people I work with I use a certain amount of humor and for them not to think I'm being humorous about them personally but their attachments are given a subtle message via humor that they aren't as important as they'd like others to believe.

I like the blank screen too. Its a message that says you're meaningless. Nothing. No meaningfull response required because the nature of you is meaningless.

I like it.

one thing I found when they were looking my way last weekend, the "heart pounding" adrenaline they pump to see what you are afraid of...

I send them a blank screen...

I turn on America's Funniest home videos, cartoons etc...

if they want to take their operating time on multi trillion dollar computer to look into me, I show them what I want... not what they want to see...[/QUOTE]

loveandgratitude

4th May 2011, 01:45

BRINGING READERS UP TO DATE ABOUT THIS WEAPON OF TERROR

The topic of mind control is elaborate, multifaceted, and multi layered. For the casual reader, it can quickly become numbing, overwhelming the senses and creating a desire to exit the topic, but avoiding this subject is the most foolish thing you could possibly do since your only chance of surviving this hideous and insidious enslavement agenda, which today threatens virtually all of humanity, isto understand how it functions and take steps to reduce your vulnerability.

The plans to create a mind controlled workers society have been in place for a long time. The current technology grew out of experiments that the Nazis started before World War II and intensified during the time of the Nazi concentration camps when an unlimited supply of children and adults were available for experimentation. We've heard about the inhumane medical experiments performed on concentration camp prisoners, but no word was ever mentioned by the media and the TV documentaries of the mind control experiments. That was not to be divulged to the American public. Mind control technologies can be broadly divided into two subsets: trauma-based or electronic-based. or both.

The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to"install". Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality. The 'front personality' is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities. Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer. The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers.

Worldwide Electronic Mind Control via 'Cell Phone' Towers
OCC elf tower The day is here in which government mind control technologies will be directed at you, your neighbors, and your loved ones. Every single day, equipment is being erected and installed in this country with the hidden purpose of exerting mind control over the entire population. Everywhere in this country (and overseas), ELF/microwave transmission towers are being erected. The antennae usually look like four slightly curved vertical plates about 2 feet in length and located in either 3 or 4 quadrants around the tower, two thirds up from the ground. Just look around, you'll see them. And you'll also notice more of them going up once you begin to pay attention. No one is saying anything, but you're expected to presume that they're for cell phones. (Do you really think that we need that much 'cell phone' transmission capability, every few blocks? Do you realize how very little energy is used by genuine cell phone usage? Yet these towers are capable of putting out levels of power that exceed cell phone requirements by a wide margin) These mind control technologies have been in place for a long time. It's not an accident that the frequency band chosen for cell phone use just happens to match the second order waves that Wilhelm Reich discovered in the late1940's to effect thought transmission and allow the mind to be manipulated without the victim realizing it. Reich worked on this project secretly for the CIA for over 5 years, from 1947-1952, until he realized who the CIA was planning to use the mind control on -the American people. He was outraged that he was deceived and used for such a treasonous motive and swore never to cooperate with the CIA, FDA, etc. again. Reich was covertly murdered in Federal prison in 1957, just a few weeks before he was due to be released, having been in prison for 2 years on a trumped up charge leading to a contempt of court citation. He was reported to have had a 'heart attack'. He was strong as an ox. He was murdered two weeks before his parole board hearing. His last book, written in prison, was found to be 'missing' after his death and never returned to his family.

A method was discovered to disable these ELF towers from exerting their mind control functions by placing a simple device known as an orgone generator within a radius of 1,300 feet of these towers. These microwave towers are used in conjunction with HAARP based technology to not only affect subliminal mind control influences, but also to control the weather (currently {2007}, the creation of artificially induced drought conditions are also greatly influenced by the population-reduction chemtrail spraying operations which take place daily over the skies in America and in many other countries) .

Are you ready to live in Orwell's nightmare world of Big Brother and mind control slavery? The New Fourth Reich of Hitler's demonic dream where perverted and promiscuous sexuality is promoted as 'normal' and 'healthy' while satanism with its rituals of human sacrifice is the only 'religion' to be allowed? Well, it's just around the corner if we remain passive and unwilling to engage these demonic manipulators.

loveandgratitude

4th May 2011, 02:01

OMNI - I have been following with great intent all your words and feelings and the helpful and kind words and intent from others. I feel something is missing from this story. When I asked you some questions in a previous post the only one you were vague on was the question about spirituality.

As you know, child abuse cuts you off from the source of power, from your own power and spiritual power, disempowering you. This makes it easy to get control over your mind and spirit. The reason why it is done at a young age.

At this point, I would like to remind you of your universal contract. Yes the contract you made before you came onto the planet. So lets look at that.

One of the things that you'll never hear about from your handlers is that there are certain spiritual Universal Laws in place that are in operation at all times throughout the universe. These Laws are inviolate and apply to all sentient beings whether you exist on the physical plane or in higher, non physical dimensions. They apply whether you come from Earth, Sirius B, Mars, Nibiru, Venus, or any other planet in this galaxy or any other galaxy. They apply in all the higher dimensional planes as well.

There are Three major Universal Laws and many other sub universal laws under the umbrella of the three main ones. One of those Universal Laws is the Law of Non Interference or Free Will. Simply stated, this law requires that Free Will rules above all else when it comes to receiving assistance from higher spirit beings. If you don't want their help or do not ask for it, it cannot be 'pushed' on you. They must respect your Will. In an emergency, of course, due to ignorance on your part, your Angels will help get you out of a jam that might imperil your life or help avert a disaster, but as a rule they stand by ready to assist, but can only help you when you ask for their help. An extremely important point to remember. You've already been given this lesson by the Great Teacher who walked the Earth 2,000 years ago:" Knock and the Door shall be Opened unto you. Seek and you shall Find.

The Law of Cause & Effect is also iron clad and causes us to acquire Karmic debt or Karma, at least in the lower dimensional planes. Once a soul 'graduates' to a high enough plane or spiritual dimension, he is no longer liable to incur Karmic debt. Karma, as you likely know, is reaping what you sow. For every unkind gesture, thought, action, or intention, you must pay the piper in this life or in future lives to come or both. The nastier you are, the more you'll have to pay.

For every act of kindness, charity, or sacrifice, and every thought, word, deed or intention that you perform based on love and understanding (forgiveness), you pay down your Karmic debt and advance in soul development at the same time. Freedom from Karma can be achieved while still on earth and within the physical body. Many enlightened souls have done so down through the centuries. You can do it too, if you want it bad enough. You can be free of these tryants. The key for opening that golden door is obtained through enlightened mediation and complete self realization with the assistance of your guides and angels.

The Higher Self

Another topic that would never been discussed in is the concept of the Higher Self..

There is much more to you than you might imagine. The face you see in the mirror is but one aspect, in physical form, of your soul, but your soul is yet part of a larger concept called the Over soul. The Higher Self is the 'director', in a manner of speaking, of the Over soul and is directly connected to the Universal Cosmic Mind which in turn is connected to the core of all creation, God.

All knowledge, all truths, and all possibilities exists within the Universal Cosmic Mind.

If you can gain access to this "Above Top Secret" cosmic computer room, you can find out anything you want and change anything you want and take back control of your reality and live a life to satisfy your wishes.

to be continued..............:couch2:

zerohero

4th May 2011, 02:28

Omniverse,

Thanks for posting, you've done a positive thing by sharing.

I would like to ask you a couple things.
Why do you think you have been targeted for mind-control?
When you are being mind-controlled, what sort of activities are you doing?

I have some experience on the subject but I wouldn't go so far as to call it mind-control. I'm not sure if it originates internally or from external forces.
It is mainly just the planting of negative thoughts. 'Planting' is a good word because these negative thoughts enter my mind as just seeds, seeds that appeal to my 'lower' self in some way. If I give these negative seeds energy (they're usually down the easy road) these negative seeds grow and manifest into negative thoughts that I replay and build upon over and over in my mind. They can grow to be an ugly garden I tend to with diligence. They're usually some ridiculous stupid thoughts meant to suck my energy away from more positive things. Eventually I just have had enough and stop mid thought and think those thoughts serve me no purpose and it's time to let it go and move on to a greater purpose. Just out of habit these negative thoughts will try and sneak away more of my energy but I just have to resolve to be rid of it and move down a more positive path. But just when I'm free from one particular set of negative thoughts more negative seeds are planted and the struggle begins again. I'm not disturbed by it anymore and I think it's actually a training process designed to hone greater self-controlled will power toward the positive - a mighty useful skill don't you think?

Anyway, I'd like to know your take on that and thank you again!

loveandgratitude

4th May 2011, 13:18

Everything Starts In Your Consciousness
To understand this map, we must first orient ourselves to the idea that the causes and symptoms are within the mind.

We plan our lives while still in the spirit world and receive guidance from wise councilors, true enough. But we have FREE WILL at all times. Whether we SUCCESSFULLY live the life we had planned, or we go in an entirely different direction is subject to the decisions we made while in the flesh, and that is always a matter of FREE WILL.

Everything begins with your consciousness. Everything that happens in your life, and everything that happens in your body, begins with something happening in your consciousness. Your consciousness is who you are, your experience of Being. Normally one decides what ideas to accept and which to reject. One decides what to think, and decides what to feel.
But in the case of RSA or mind control capacity is overridden and the power handed over.

Ultimately You Are A Being of Energy
Your consciousness, your experience of Being, who you really are, is energy. We can call it "Life Energy" for now. This energy does not just live in your brain; it fills your entire body. Your consciousness is connected to every cell in your body. Through your consciousness, you can communicate with every organ and every tissue.

1. A change of consciousness creates a change in the energy field.
2. A change in the energy field happens before a change in the physical body.

Unfortunately for most of us our consciousness has been hijacked.

The fact is, what the( Powers That Be) choose to tell us about life and reality, and the way things actually are, are two totally different things. They suppress many things from us, matters concerning health, medicine, technology, physics, biology, history, human origins and space. The truth about who’s really running the show on this planet. The truth about aliens. The truth about the upcoming earth changes, cometary impacts, and the Wave. If you can name it, then chances are, they’ve suppressed something about it. Lightness is truth and knowledge, and darkness is the suppression of truth and knowledge, and what you don’t know, can hurt.

We describe men as "evil" who routinely make free will decisions to do something harmful or hurtful to other people. But that's a facet of character that is ACQUIRED through repetition of negative conduct. On the other hand, a good person LEARNS to be good through habituation of loving conduct.

But There are rules.

The Rules of the Game
As long as you are fully souled, then you will have protection from higher realms when you are here, either from your higher self, or the “teammates” who are working alongside your higher self.

Fear is also big tool that’s used to keep us in line and under control. Fear of getting in trouble, fear of change, fear of the unknown, fear of risk and potential failure, fear of rejection, fear of being alone, fear of being attacked, fear of health problems, fear of death…and on and on…what if what if what if…?? The Powers That Be have created a world to paralyze us in fear, round the clock, 24/7. “It’s all fear, all the time!” And that’s exactly how they want it.

Instead, of being the amazing divine creatures we are capable of we have been degraded, distracted, and deceived, like people with a terminal disease, like squatters in someone else's universe. And this has been done thought Thought forms which are basically just intent in form.

Thoughtforms
It is through these thought forms that we can take our power back. That is right.
So are you tired of implants? You can Create your own implant thought form, so that any time anyone puts implants in you, they get a dozen back., that replicate, causing their physiology to begin enlightenment.

Tired of these controllers having their tubes attached to you? Heh heh...With your imagination put a firehouse worth of high energy orgone back through the tube, and put it on constant action. You don't need to cut those tubes, whoever is attaching them will want to cut them, badly, because they are drinking hugh amounts of positive energy from a fire hose.

These people all have like a huge dam holding back their karma, just like in the 2nd Lord of the Rings movie. Weaken their karma dams just a little, cut out say 2 supports. They won't have any energy to mess with you, they will be fixing that dam, with a white face, and I guarantee you they won't mess with you again.

With your imagination start putting blue spears in them, more than a pincushion, and making them permanent, including especially the chakras, and removing the blocks so their soul could shine through. You always have the right to defense of self, family, and community.

Create parasitical thoughtforms to parasitize the negative stuff they do, turning their negative energy into positive, better yet doing so at random, so they won't know what's going on. Put a chaos thoughtform into their ritual sites, to decrease the chaos of what they are doing by just 10%, and have good energy show up.

How about for everyone reading this that are in agreement to wellness for themselves and the earth to spend one or two minutes a day visualizing the end product-wellness for themselves and for the earth in every aspect and dimension existing now.
Then imagine you are up above the earth and let all the little points of light(souls)that are in agreement with you light up-say hello to them. Each day you do this there will be more. This group agreement will get big enough to take seniority over anything else.

Your Higher Self
The higher self is you, in the future. . Being that all time as we know it is happening simultaneously, that means that every form of you that has ever existed or has “yet” to exist is happening at the same time. This further evolved future-you is able to connect to the you in the now and knows how things are going to go, because it’s already been there, and has the ability to see across multiple timelines and multiple realities, in a way that we can’t at this time in this limited density. Try not to think of your higher self as something separate from you, because it’s not. You are one and the same. All time, past present and future, is interconnected and interactive. This can be a difficult concept to grasp for many since we come from a society where the idea of linear, sequential, disconnected time has been hammered into our heads since child! hood. Keep in mind that they’ve presented that particular version of time for a reason.

In Conclusion….
We have to keep in mind those analogies about lion in the zoo, or the cow being farmed by upper management, because it’s no different for humans. Most people out there don’t seem to realize that we have negative forces in charge of us right now, corralling us around, keeping us fearful and complacent, so the end result is that we never rise up and realize our potential.

A short message to the controllers – If you people want to do your negative rituals, you just keep right on doing them, you will find your negativity draining away faster than you can replace it, and you will find your negative rituals having positive effects. You will find an angel of healing waking up inside you, and you will find yourself surrounded by some very bright light.

There are even more surprises waiting for you. Everything waiting for you is designed to work outside of your awareness, until the right moment. I was only a minor participant in what was set up for you. You see, negative people serve a purpose, but only to a point. When that point is reached, they simply vanish, just like with anything else that no longer serves a purpose.

9eagle9

4th May 2011, 13:30

Well my relationship with my mother has been overall good. but it has been greatly subverted. They have never allowed me to fully express myself to my mother. Inside I know what I feel, but they wont let me express it. I have done it before and broken it because I was fed up with it, but it was too painful internally to justify doing it again. Not like baggage painful, just REALLY hard to do. The gravities involved in doing such were very very uncomfortable. There is massive resistance to openness with my mother. They wont let me feel love for her either. Not for years really. Before all this happened I was allowed to at least FEEL love for her, although not really express it minus an obligatory "I love you too". They dont let me feel love....

This is the sensitive part Omni. What I am seeking to do is divide you from them so you have some clarity of you and them. I want to make sure its a safe place for you to do so. Humanity doesn't have a clear understanding of what real abuse is (yours is most definitely real). But abuse abounds in much higher numbers than we know simply because we think its just a matter of molestation, neglect, and beatings. Abuse is far more sublte. There's covert and overt. People who have suffered from simple emo neglect are traumatized for life, without having to endure beatings or molestation. And htey have a difficult time loving without having to endure what you have endured.

On the surface where we operate most of our relationships, your relationship with your mother is good. Underneath though....you are Rightfully bearing a lot of resentment. And anger and hatred and grieving--those are naturally occurring conditions that any child would harbor and so would any adult. You were abandoned, a sacred bond of trust and protection broken, and when the sacred is broken it affects us on all levels of existence. No its not baggage pain, its REAL pain and its occuring now in real time still. Because 'they' keep getting in there and playing in it , they won't let it heal. Because its part of the way they control you.

That is not them disallowing you to love your mother. I have no idea on earth how anyone could expect anyone to love anyone who has betrayed their trust in such a fashion. That's not them disalllowing, that is you expressing a naturally occurring event. You can't love your mother. How could you? I couldn't love mine and yes I felt resentment towards her, but you can't love what really isn't there. What ever is going on with your mother , beyond completely abandoning you, there's not anything there to love. The impossible is expected here and we can't perform the impossible.

Obligatory 'I love yous' indeed. I'd wonder about you more if you claimed they were heartfelt....lol.

The Natural inability to love your mother inflicts a lot of guilt and 'they' play on that too. After all its been beaten into our heads by religious and social conditioning that we should love our parents. Honor them. Why? They broke the agreement of honor first, we didn't. We were children we know nothing of parental responsibility which goes far beyond just being present.

And in their predictable fashion your pals have seized on this and made you think they are responsible for not being able to love your mother in a healthy way. You are quite incapable of it and I don't blame you. And I would be surprised if you ever will. And you are certainly not expected to. Respect and cordiality and things of that nature perhaps, but the cord, the bond was severed THEN. It was broke before they came along, they just came along and found a easy way to manipulate you and built it up from there. Maybe it can be rebuilt at some time in the future but its not your responsibility to do so. You weren't responsible for any of this. My own mother was my judge, jury, and prosecutor in this life time and in others. I couldn't touch her. I didn't bond with her from birth, and I sure as hell didn't love her. It is an outrage to think we should love something that would inflict that much abuse and abandonment on us and be expected to LOVE them for it.

Love is earned. Its based on respect.

That's you Omni, and that is just the way it is. There is no way you should be expected to feel overwhelming regard for someone regardless if she is a parent, if she is the allowed that to happen to you. Forgiveness at some point in the future but we have to work that poison out before real forgiveness is possible.

So when 'they' insinuate that they are keeping you from feeling love, you let them know that is your own. That occurred naturally and it would have occurred even if they had not come along. That is yours entirely, and they had nothing to do with it but make you think they instilled it in you.

In actuality it was your mother who began the conditioning. "They" just picked it up and ran with it. Because those are the things they manipulate in us. They make our wounds bigger till they cripple us with them.

So yes thats yours. I know its something its hard to own but you weren't responsible for that. Your mother was.

And that is why I noted earlier much of the bedrock that they have attached to concerns your mother. You make it safe for yourself to detach from her, and you will be detaching a whole lot from them.

Those wounds your mother allowed to be inflicted on you, when they heal over you WILL find that you've taken quite a lot of how they control you through what she put you through.

Omni

6th May 2011, 06:58

On the surface where we operate most of our relationships, your relationship with your mother is good. Underneath though....you are Rightfully bearing a lot of resentment. And anger and hatred and grieving--those are naturally occurring conditions that any child would harbor and so would any adult.
I never had hatred for my mother.

You were abandoned, a sacred bond of trust and protection broken, and when the sacred is broken it affects us on all levels of existence. No its not baggage pain, its REAL pain and its occuring now in real time still. Because 'they' keep getting in there and playing in it , they won't let it heal. Because its part of the way they control you.

Again I think we are talking about apples and oranges(in ways). They have clearly shown me they can program anything into me at any time. And I mean clearly. Maybe it is ETs doing this to me and not the US shadow gov. Maybe the US shadow gov is just watching intently. What I have experienced is far beyond what you are describing in ability. They can at any time program me with anything that is possible to be programmed. And it is instant... They do not need to follow natural means of programming in terms of the mechanisms of natural consciousness in humans. But they still use it at times. So in ways I could learn from you, and in ways you could learn from me. I don't get you feel you can learn from me. This seems like a one way type thing. I hope that changes or I am wrong... This is not smoke and mirrors, my explanation of real time programming. It's not an illusion I'm under... Clearly what they did to you differs from what is being done to me. It's clear to me anyway. Not that I'm saying you don't have windows into their actions with me. Like the molestation. But the mind control wasn't really existent then as much. It still may have effects on me too. So I'm not saying I don't gain by your wisdom. I just don't feel you have a firm grasp on what is happening to me in every way, your words have shown me that 100%. In some ways, surely IMO, in other ways, not so much.
For example:

I've never witnessed a loved one die and get raped in front of me. Yet they have mind controlled those feelings into me, and have incited the programmed effects of witnessing that and being powerless into me before. I didn't give a dam about anything after that for a period of time. They have shown me they are able to program ALL programming they know of, instantly into me. Maybe my soul has it all? Maybe they are restricted to the sorrow or potential imprints in my soul, or my experience. I have experienced a TON. So that would make sense in a way. I've been tortured hundreds of times. Some of them rather instantly, some of them lasting months. The worst being about 100+ days of what I describe as "bad acid trip for 100+ days and I wasn't on acid". The universe came alive and attacked me in almost every form possible. It was devastating. I wanted to die. I couldn't kill myself because like Tupac experienced as well:

"When I held that nine[gun], all I could see was my mother's eyes"
-Tupac

That is not them disallowing you to love your mother.
It absolutely irrefutably is them stopping me from feeling love(for ANYTHING). Sometimes I get a feeling close to love(which is supplemented INTO me, not ME), and extremely rarely they let me feel love(which is also them supplementing it INTO me). Maybe once every 3 months for about a second I get to feel love(sometimes a longer period of time in between love for me).

I know this 100% bar none. They do not allow me to feel love.

I have no idea on earth how anyone could expect anyone to love anyone who has betrayed their trust in such a fashion.
When you love someone you conceptually know you do. Being able to feel it consciously in it's more potent conscious forms does not stop you from knowing you love someone. I know I love my mother. I forgave her long ago for her having to go to work(a very ridiculous thing to blame someone for). She didn't know what was happening to me. I feared what would happen to me if I told her of it... I got over the abandonment issues as soon as a matured to be of age to analyze my life. Which was pretty young.

That's not them disalllowing, that is you expressing a naturally occurring event.
If you had experienced what I have you would be speaking a different tune. It most certainly is them stopping me from feeling love. They have shown me what I'm naturally capable of briefly, with a dog. I felt love for the dog. I feel love for all dogs naturally, that is me. With them influencing me, I feel love for NOTHING.

Also, this disproves what you say regarding them influencing me with actions to not feel love for my mother conclusively:
I had a natural mind for the most part between the ages of 1-21(ish). I was able to feel love for my mother fine. Just not express it. Huge difference from not being able to FEEL it. The love not being there in experience form for me started after they fully infiltrated and started controlling my mind. Not after abuse as a child.

You can't love your mother. How could you?
I am a forgiving person. I get over being betrayed or abandoned or molested. I forgave the guy who molested me too. I felt bad for him because he went to prison(I didn't testify. He had done it to others too and I felt 4 years in prison is enough, I saw his good side too, and I hate the idea of prison for someone). I had a lot of compassion and emotion before my synthetic programming. My mother and father both do too. Now I don't. I don't really get angry. I don't get overly emotional. I don't love. I have more intellect than compassion at most times now. Before it was a balance, and extremes of both. Potent(compared to other kids my age) levels of both. I had more control over my emotions than my father does though(he wasnt the guy who abused me). I was more mastered in that way.

I couldn't love mine and yes I felt resentment towards her, but you can't love what really isn't there. What ever is going on with your mother , beyond completely abandoning you, there's not anything there to love.
There is a mountainload of things to love my mother for. You are very wrong here.

The impossible is expected here and we can't perform the impossible.
Not much is impossible in my view. Feeling any emotion is possible at any time. They have shown me fully they can make me feel like I'm rejoicing when I really should be in terror(sometimes after the initial terror comes so I know it's not some knee jerk trigger programming). They have shown me they can change my emotions on something to the polar opposite on a dime. And no I am not bi-polar...

IE(they have done):
I witness something,
I have an emotional reaction,
they invert my reactional emotion in real time,
I'm feeling something ridiculously the polar opposite of what I would naturally feel.

So in other words, it's very possible to feel love for any being in the universe no matter how spiteful you are(if you attached "naturally" though which is probably your meaning, some things might be impossible for some people).

Obligatory 'I love yous' indeed. I'd wonder about you more if you claimed they were heartfelt....lol.

They have not allowed me to properly express my love, once in my life since I gained any eloquence. Expressing it is the problem before my mental infiltration, not feeling it. I have not once been able to say "I love you" meaning it, ever as far as I remember(minus maybe when I was a kid), and that is to anyone. Sometimes when I say "<3" to someone on a forum I get a slight derivative of love(A much less potent version of it), it's still in the same energetic range of love but it is dumbed down, it's controlled into me in real time without a doubt. I bet you think this is something embedded into me and I had a reaction causing this. That is the matrix you are speaking of. I am manipulated in ways at times by that matrix, but not all the time. The one I deal with is far more advanced than what they are restricted to in the methods you speak of. It's outdated in a way when it comes to me... Maybe it's ETs doing this. I don't know. They flip flop my reality on this frequently. And no, it is not by fooling me. It's by rigging the entire process. It's total mind control. I did meet a human(I think he was human anyway, he did say he had space ships and showed me pictures...) regarding all this. An agent... So I know humans are involved. I just don't know how much negative or positive ETs are involved for sure...

Advanced Mind Control?: It's done in real time. Your experienced are with pre-programming. And developing triggers and reactions to things. I deal with that too, it's part of the game. But not the whole thing...

I wish I had control of what does things to me. So I would just show people the truth of the matter. Programming and mind control can be done in real time. It is the apex way to do it.

The Natural inability to love your mother inflicts a lot of guilt and 'they' play on that too. After all its been beaten into our heads by religious and social conditioning that we should love our parents. Honor them. Why? They broke the agreement of honor first, we didn't. We were children we know nothing of parental responsibility which goes far beyond just being present.

I had things seeded into my mind as a child regarding proper parenting(or just known to me, maybe by my higher self, maybe by ETs, maybe by my handlers[<-- i doubt that one]). For example when I got spanked for the first and only time, I had the thought: "You are a bad parent. You lost my respect due to how stupid you are for doing this, permanently. I will not forget this."

And in their predictable fashion your pals have seized on this and made you think they are responsible for not being able to love your mother in a healthy way.
If you were experiencing mind control done in real time you would not be saying this.

That's you Omni, and that is just the way it is.
With all due respect, you barely know me. I know me better... Safe to say you have some holes in your understanding of all this(when it comes to my situation). Holes I do not have. I probably have some holes you do not have in other areas. I hope you can consider my words as being true instead of projecting your own experiences and reality into them and thinking I am under illusions, like it appears you are doing. I mean no disrespect in saying this. You are wiser than I am in some of this. But I know for sure some of this is done in real time, like advanced mind control. They have shown me they don't need external experiences to manipulate the base mental programming I have. I hope humans are limited to what you explain. At least there would be an element of failing. There is no failing when it comes to the mind control I am subjected to in almost every case as far as I'm aware.

There is no way you should be expected to feel overwhelming regard for someone regardless if she is a parent, if she is the allowed that to happen to you. Forgiveness at some point in the future but we have to work that poison out before real forgiveness is possible.

Like I said, I forgave her a long time ago. Her fault was bad intuition when marrying the guy. She met him at a child care place...... The last person she thought would molest, did at the time. I forgave him too. And I didn't have any baggage from the abuse except for not being comfortable showing people my body, having trouble expressing love, and not feeling comfortable around women sometimes when I am attracted to them. Other than that I had no ill effects from it I could detect when living a more natural life.

So when 'they' insinuate that they are keeping you from feeling love, you let them know that is your own. That occurred naturally and it would have occurred even if they had not come along. That is yours entirely, and they had nothing to do with it but make you think they instilled it in you.

I was not so badly scarred that I couldn't feel love. Like I said, I felt love a ton in between my abuse as a child, and my full programming and mind control at around the age of 21-22. Nothing affects me that deeply naturally unless I let it. It's like I've been through all of it before...

In actuality it was your mother who began the conditioning. "They" just picked it up and ran with it. Because those are the things they manipulate in us. They make our wounds bigger till they cripple us with them.

No doubt they exploit wounds. But I don't think you are qualified to say such things and know it for sure. It's an assumption on your part. My mother just picked the wrong guy. He had good qualities, and that is what she saw. She never saw me get abused by him. Not once... But you could blame my mother for birthing me maybe, if that's your train of thought... I don't blame her at all. She's an innocent being. Shes a doctor whos life is about servitude to other beings in helping them become healthy. And being there for her children and spouse. Shes a great person...

So yes thats yours. I know its something its hard to own but you weren't responsible for that. Your mother was.

She feels responsible for my abuse. But she's not IMO. She just wasn't the perfect clairevoyant early on in her life. She battled depression and high emotion in a messed up world. She was a bit confused IMO when getting with that guy. And that is the worst explanation I could give. Around her he was always good. When she left, he changed. I think it was mind control, or just him being a dark being...

And that is why I noted earlier much of the bedrock that they have attached to concerns your mother. You make it safe for yourself to detach from her, and you will be detaching a whole lot from them.

I find the bolded claim completely bogus. No offense. They can mind control me no matter where I am on the planet, and no matter who I'm around, and no matter what programming I have as far as I can tell. I know a lot of people think mind control just wont work at some level. But those are people who have never experienced it, experienced illusions, or had inferior technology used on them. Either those things, or for whatever reason I am 100% vulnerable and my mind is open source, whereas other people are hardcoded. I hope thats true(I would wish the opposite if it was a Utopia, it would suck to not be able to experience the apex of music just because your mind is hardcoded). I just don't see evidence of that in my experiences.

Those wounds your mother allowed to be inflicted on you, when they heal over you WILL find that you've taken quite a lot of how they control you through what she put you through.

They healed a long time ago. I have not sexually healed but that is because they have disallowed any sexual interaction in my life.

9eagle9

6th May 2011, 11:53

And with due respect to your boundaries, then i can offer you nothing further Omni, and i wish you well on your journey.