RatFish Oil - Chimaera Monstrosa Linnaeus NOW AVAILABLE [Dr Peterson]

[Joslin]

Hi guys

I found this brand new site that has obviously based solely on selling the Ratfish Oil that Dr Pete Peterson brought to our attantion in a Camelot interview.

The site adress is http://ratfishoil.com/

_____________________________
[info from the ratfishoil site]

10ml blue bottle with glass dropper.

1 pc - NOK: 268 = £30 not including p&p

The oil does not turn rancid after being produced by us. It withstands storage at room temperature. For the protection of nutritional topics, vitamins etc., it should not be exposed to temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius, and always stored in the blue glass bottle included. The reason the oil does not turn rancid, is its very high contents of antioxidants.
The oil contains Omega 3, 6 and 9 in an advantageous distribution to the body.
Vitamin Distribution: A, D, E and K1, K2.
The oil contains the entire spectrum of the body's needs for amino acids - by definition, "a perfect aminogram" - and amino acids are in an advantageous distribution in relation to each other.
The oil contains topics that makes it very easy to be absorbed by the body. both for in- and external bodily use.
The oil is antiseptic and applicable for in- and external bodily use.. It stimulates and strengthens the body's immune system. From ancient times it has been used in wound and skin treatment.
The oil removes the effects of chlorine, fluorine and heavy metals.
The oil dissolves and removes plaque in blood vessels and ensures that they do not harden.(Hardened fats that have attached to the vessels walls is dissolved - narrow and clogged veins will be like new.)
The oil decalcifies - including the blood vessels, joints, glands and other organs. It is particularly suited to decalcify the Pineal gland.
1 drop of oil a day is sufficient to prevent tooth decay.
The oil possesses qualities which increases the bioelectrical and piezoelectric energies in the body. That is, it increases the energy flow in the energy-body. Teeth are the body's most important piezoelectric energy producer - who will ensure fast and efficient communication in the energy-body - and the oil, ensures restoration and strengthening of this system. Some of the "side effects" of this is prevention of tooth decay. (In other words - healthy teeth).
The oil has very good lubricating properties, and in the maritime environment has been a good corrosion protector. Used by the guns and arms industry.

Calming and anxiety reducing effects.

Regulates blood pressure and heart rate.

Raises the pain threshold.

The content of the stress hormone cortisone in the blood decreases.

Nutrition admission is improved.

Healing rate of wound is doubled.
____________________


I have already recieved a bottle and using it anyway, but, even though this site seems genuine, i am aware that this may be a site trying to make money out of a falicy, and palming off any fishoil to make money.

I have checked that this particular type of ratfish [Chimaera_monstrosa Linaeus] is specifically in Norway waters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimaera_monstrosa

I wonder if anyone knows someone who has the facilities to test this stuff to see if its the real deal.

Kind regards
Joslin

[Wood]

I was under the impression it was 'skate liver oil' what Dr Pete Peterson was refering to. Is this the same product? I think he didn't actually mention any specific oil. I am interested in getting the right one :)

[Joslin]

I was under the impression it was 'skate liver oil' what Dr Pete Peterson was refering to. Is this the same product? I think he didn't actually mention any specific oil. I am interested in getting the right one :)

Hi there, its actually Ratfish, Dr Peter Peterson, though he states he wouldnt say what fish it is from which you get this oil, he acidentally lets slip Ratfish, and Kerry pulls him up on it.

Dr Pete Petersons interview on the oil is here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfIlUMS_Q3g

He begins to talk about the oil after the calcification of the Pineal gland at 0:43:52 / 1:00:01 on the Utube vid, and specifically states Ratfish 00:50:10/1:00:01

He also states this fish is a bottom feeder found all the way from the south to the North atlantic. The actual Ratfish which has a liver taking up 60% of the whole fishes weight, is the Chimaera Monstrosa Linnaeus which is prodominantly only found in North Atlantic waters near Norway. This company that is selling this oil is in norway.

Kind Regards
Joslin

[Wood]

Thank you :)

[nomadguy]

Great posts! - "The oil contains the entire spectrum of the body's needs for amino acids - by definition, "a perfect aminogram""
Hmmmm.... ponders - perfect amino crystal?

check out this large sketch of the fish from,
http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/htmls/figb0586.htm

[Arpheus]

30 euros omg i am gonna have to pass that would be like 50 bucks maybe 60,and the site doesnt mention anything about shipping overseas,oh well.

[Helvetic]

Hello, to avoid confusion, here is my little pice to this thread. I was researching the fish oil question for some time after the Mr. Peterson interview.

In Part 3 at 46:20 , Peterson starts speaking about a fish
and oil from the fish's liver.
What is the name of this fish?
The clues from the video are listed below:

0) assumed to be a salt water fish, found from pole to pole.
1) bottom feeder
2) about 60% of the weight of the fish is liver.
3) about 60% of the liver is oil.
4) really fishy taste. Cool the oil down .. skim off the solids
5) the oil will not go rancid for 100s of years.
6) one drop a day prevents cavities.
7) was used after world war II for years in Europe.
8) small amount is found in wheat germ oil.
9) the oil will reverse damage to the Pineal Gland
(3rd eye) caused by fluoride/chloride, iodide (Halides)
10) Peterson names the rat fish, but said that is not
the one 60% liver fish his was speaking about.
11) The oil is known as Activator X or the Price Factor: Discovered by Weston Price
12) it is not cod liver oil

David Wilcock gave another interview with Project Camelot; and in it he mentioned that he found a source for the rat fish oil called "skate liver oil". He mentioned this site that sells it, as well as Butter Oil that is made from organic milk from cows eating the fast-growing grass. He says to mix them together for full effect, he claimed he has been using it for 3 days now and could already feel a positive difference.

BLUE ICE™ Fermented Skate Liver Oil

X-FACTOR Gold™ High Vitamin Butter Oil

Both products can be found here. (http://www.greenpasture.org/retail/?t=products)

Best,
Helvetic

[tone3jaguar]

Another name for this fish is the skatefish. I have been taking the skatefish oil for almost a year now. I does indeed decalcify the pineal gland. Here is where I bought it.

http://www.greenpasture.org/retail/?t=products&a=line&i=fermented-skate-liver-oil

[Wood]

I does indeed decalcify the pineal gland.
Could you share with us what evidence you have to support that statement?

I've been taking ratfish liver oil for a few weeks now and I've had an episode of very vivid, colourful visions with eyes closed, not during meditation, but for a few minutes after waking up in the middle of the night. It happened four days ago. But then I do not know if it is related to the oil. It is certainly the first time I have experienced it though.

[wynderer]

the ratfish would likely prefer to keep its own liver -- did anyone talk to the ratfish about this first?

[john.d]

Ive been taking the skate for about a month but havent noticed anything . Just started using boron and melatonin to help flush the fluoride too .

John

[norwaymike]

I know the people behind the rat fish oil project in Norway. The product is high quality and not made to "get rich". I tried two bottles and can not say that I did notice any effect that I can prove works the way they say it does. For all, its worth a try.

[tone3jaguar]

Could you share with us what evidence you have to support that statement?

My minds eye is now crystal clear, where as before it was not. The same as you, very vivid visions. Like high def 3d.

[whitewizard]

Could you share with us what evidence you have to support that statement?

I've been taking ratfish liver oil for a few weeks now and I've had an episode of very vivid, colourful visions with eyes closed, not during meditation, but for a few minutes after waking up in the middle of the night. It happened four days ago. But then I do not know if it is related to the oil. It is certainly the first time I have experienced it though.

Hi :),

What did you find was the best way to take this rat fish oil, I take under the tongue.

thanks

Anthony

[Nortreb]

Thanks so much for this link and the comments from everyone. I remember Pete Peterson discussing this and it was on my list to try/research. I will try it and provide contributing comments later. Peace to you all.

[chelmostef]

So by buying this for our own benefit the skate or rat fish has to give up its life! Its very kind of the rat fish to do that for you... does it really have a choice or do you!

And by rushing to buy this, is exactly how species are and have been extinguished/extincted... Perhaps that does not matter! As long as the human moves to the next density!

[Nortreb]

So by buying this for our own benefit the skate or rat fish has to give up its life! Its very kind of the rat fish to do that for you... does it really have a choice or do you!

And by rushing to buy this, is exactly how species are and have been extinguished/extincted... Perhaps that does not matter! As long as the human moves to the next density!

This is a very complex issue which can be discussed for Kalpas.

Most everything that is consumed has a life force. Vegetables are living things also as well as flowers. We live in a dense plane where everything feeds off another. The next plane will hopefully not be as dense as the current one. so, it will not be required to consume as much nutrients to exist in the new plane.

Peace

[chelmostef]

This is a very complex issue which can be discussed for Kalpas.

Peace

Im sorry but to me it is quite simple :)

And you are right it could and has been discussed for kalpas,

For me, I dont think you will find what you are looking for in a rat fish but by looking at the rat fish.

I do hope you find the plane/density you are looking for though :)

[str8thinker]

I've been taking ratfish liver oil for a few weeks now and I've had an episode of very vivid, colourful visions with eyes closed, not during meditation, but for a few minutes after waking up in the middle of the night. It happened four days ago. But then I do not know if it is related to the oil. It is certainly the first time I have experienced it though.

Is it possible that ratfish oil is hallucinogenic? ;)

[witchy1]

ANYTHING is possible str8thinker :noidea:

[1159]

I have some concerns about eating fish scientifically, aside from the moral reasons. The ratfish is a sea floor cleaner, that means it consumes material close to or from the sea floor. The north atlantic has been known to contain a high level of pollution, somewhere in the region of 200,000 pieces of platic per KmSq. REF (http://pollutionarticles.blogspot.com/2010/02/north-atlantic-polluted-by-plastic.html). This debris is found also as a soup of minute plastic slivers that is now clogging the sea floor ecosystem. It's a major problem.

The issue is that because the ratfish feeds of the floor, it is likely to be a creature with high toxic contamination levels. If this oil is extracted from the liver, it is very likely that there will be toxicity in the product. Fatty material and oil is a prime molecular bonder with contaminants. These could be items such as persistent toxins, PCBs, DDT, pesticides, furans, dioxins, phenols and radioactive waste. REF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_pollution)

While the oil may be very high in antioxidants and other fabulous properties, we don't know how toxic it may be and that is a critical question that has to be adressed and answered with some good research and evidense before I would consider it safe to use.

Pete Peterson is a superb scientist and thinker, he really should make more comment on this and ideally do the research himself.

[witchy1]

Hi 1159, from memory (so I could be well wrong) but I think Pete referred to the fish as being a bottom feeder in the video.... I was erring toward the shark as it has a huge liver as well. You make salient points re the toxicity tho.
Thanks

[Equalitor]

I have had the honor of touching the very fish they use, very special animal. It takes only one local fisherman for it all, no big corp. Since no one appreciates the fish today it's numbers must have gone up quite high, and shall not be in danger of becoming extinct before eons. 1000m is as far down they go, so it's bottom feeding somewhat in that area, but not in our North sea on the coast as it is lots deeper. Any animal deserves our deepest thanks and respect, and I think some sort of symbiotic agreement have been made between us in the early days...

These are very down to earth and psychic people at once, and they would never ship out anything harmful. They honor Love, Light, Life and Earth every day. Before they started marketing this [very small scale as to not attract attention from powerful competitors and ultimately our government] they tested it for months on themselves, even though they feel at an instant if anything contains harmful/negative energies and effects. Sounds almost crazy but they do a lot of research, meditating, healing and healthy living. A lot of information comes through the heavenly portals, almost each day, and they do lots of work of opening energy-portals [knowing my history is no trouble to them, even though I only met them twice and told nothing away].
This oil is now a hit in our quite small ["extremely"] alternative community, and helps with cancer, ME syndrome, ADD, dyslexia and a whole heap more. The person most responsible for this even got his junior up and going again, after a very bad accident to his back a long time ago.
They GAVE me two bottles for free even, since I've been quite contaminated and they know I want to open up my third eye quite fast, while not being economically strong. And now that I started meditating a little more too and using the oil not only for back up things are going fast.
I do believe David Wilcock is ordering this oil, but can't say for certain. Will update you if so. When I go empty of oil I will not hesitate to buy more, as I got a big family and our animals love tasting this. Ask the higher realms in a meditation if you would need it. Peace §

[the_flyingboy]

very nice find

[fifi]

Hi Equalitor, where did you get your fish oil? Is it from ratfishoil.com? Thank you for the info.

[Nortreb]

I have some concerns about eating fish scientifically, aside from the moral reasons. The ratfish is a sea floor cleaner, that means it consumes material close to or from the sea floor. The north atlantic has been known to contain a high level of pollution, somewhere in the region of 200,000 pieces of platic per KmSq. REF (http://pollutionarticles.blogspot.com/2010/02/north-atlantic-polluted-by-plastic.html). This debris is found also as a soup of minute plastic slivers that is now clogging the sea floor ecosystem. It's a major problem.

The issue is that because the ratfish feeds of the floor, it is likely to be a creature with high toxic contamination levels. If this oil is extracted from the liver, it is very likely that there will be toxicity in the product. Fatty material and oil is a prime molecular bonder with contaminants. These could be items such as persistent toxins, PCBs, DDT, pesticides, furans, dioxins, phenols and radioactive waste. REF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_pollution)

While the oil may be very high in antioxidants and other fabulous properties, we don't know how toxic it may be and that is a critical question that has to be adressed and answered with some good research and evidense before I would consider it safe to use.

Pete Peterson is a superb scientist and thinker, he really should make more comment on this and ideally do the research himself.

I appreciae your view, 1159.

From my understanding, Peterson indirectly referenced that research was done. Please note that he was trying not to disclose too much. It was quite cryptic but it could be picked up in his body language. Wilcock sort of pulled it out of him when he heard the reference. It was all cryptic.

I understand your point on the toxicity. But have you considered another view of the possibility of a higher intillegence of energy in the liver of the Ratish that allows it to survive eating off of the bottom of the sea. The liver in all animals including humans serves as a detoxifier for the blood. Perhaps it contains specific enzyme benefits that benefit the cells of the human system. Essential fatty acids are key to cell and dna health.

Charles mentioned that knowledge was keep back from us which could mean that the secret scientist such as Peterson are privy to tremendous amout of ancient secrets. Did you notice how he disappeared and was swooped back into his projects?

Everything is possible. I am learning to look beyond the apparent now that it is clear that we have been locked down and lied to.



Peace

[shybastid]

OK... So one drop a day will do ya. How many drops per bottle?
HOW many drops in the bottle so I know how many doses I get for 60 bucks?
Much appreciated.
And FYI... I don't know how many drops or doses in a bottle of MMS...But for $25.00..you get a BUNCH.

[shybastid]

1159
"I have some concerns about eating fish scientifically, aside from the moral reasons."

1159 I tryed to explain the moral side of eating fish to the Eagle that grabbed a trout in back of the house about an hour ago. He flew right over my head,and ignored me. Trout didn't look too happy either.
AND,if I start taking meletonin again with this oil, and I start lubing up my pineal too much, and start opening the 3rd Eye too far... I'm zotting someone for making me be AWARE....
Between clicking your amyglama forward(it works) and pineal...Maybe too much for me. OK I'm IN!
http://www.neilslade.com/
Neils a good guy.

[Equalitor]

Hello Fifi. Yes, it was through these people responsible for that site that I got it.

To answer others: One bottle should contain around 230 drops, as stated on the website, but not in english yet I see. And remember: "Size matters not" -Yoda. No other oil can hope to achieve the same potency. View also the "Comments/ Guestbook" for what buyers have to say. I do hope prices will fall when they get more established with the product.

Transcript on the www.ratfish.com of Pete and Kerry:

"KC: But you’re not naming the fish.

PP: I wasn’t really naming the fish.

KC: Other than the ratfish that you just talked about?

PP: No. And that’s not the…

KC: …not the main source.

PP: No, that’s what it’s called in certain areas of the world."

[shybastid]

Equilator
Comes out to less then .03cents a day U.S. dollars. Sounds well worth the investment.
Thank you for the answer. Well appreciated. And...no, I won't "Zot" anybody.:tape:

[Yoda]

30 euros omg i am gonna have to pass that would be like 50 bucks maybe 60,and the site doesnt mention anything about shipping overseas,oh well.

I ordered for Canada, and it comes to $55 Cdn, should be a couple of weeks before I get it. All the shipping details come up when you register.
http://ratfishoil.com/

[TheVoyager]

Hello everybody, hello Wood,

I am new to the forum and I am wondering if in these past months you've find this product and tested it on yourself?
If I understand correctly, the correct product would be the skate liver oil, which is sold by Green Pastures (Blue Ice Fermented Skate Liver Oil). Is that correct?

Btw, the Green Pastures web site states that holomed.nl has started to sell in Europe.

Thanks to everybody for all the info on this thread :)

[Nortreb]

Hello everybody, hello Wood,

I am new to the forum and I am wondering if in these past months you've find this product and tested it on yourself?
If I understand correctly, the correct product would be the skate liver oil, which is sold by Green Pastures (Blue Ice Fermented Skate Liver Oil). Is that correct?

Btw, the Green Pastures web site states that holomed.nl has started to sell in Europe.

Thanks to everybody for all the info on this thread :)

I starting using it last Friday. Although it is perhaps to early to provide feedback. I have noticed that I do not have to eat as much as I normally do.

[TheVoyager]

I starting using it last Friday. Although it is perhaps to early to provide feedback. I have noticed that I do not have to eat as much as I normally do.

Thank you Nortreb :) I suppose you are taking the Blue Ice Fermented Skate Liver Oil...
I am looking forward to hear more from you in a not so distant future :)

[Nortreb]

I starting using it last Friday. Although it is perhaps to early to provide feedback. I have noticed that I do not have to eat as much as I normally do.

Thank you Nortreb :) I suppose you are taking the Blue Ice Fermented Skate Liver Oil...
I am looking forward to hear more from you in a not so distant future :)

You are very welcome, TheVoyager! I am using the Ratfish oil though.

I can tell you that it really supplements energy work.

Peace

[Yoda]

This is the link to read the confirmation of Activator X (Weston Price) and Vitamin K2
http://www.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/175-x-factor-is-vitamin-k2.html#perfect
It resolved the sixty year gap that Dr Pete Peterson hinted at(1945-2005)

[9eagle9]

Posting to track the thread. I just ordered some, and I think I'll give it a month to work as things like this seem to have an accumulative effect. So I have nothing to offer at the moment but are curious as to how well others are 'zotting' with it in the meantime ;)

[Nortreb]

Posting to track the thread. I just ordered some, and I think I'll give it a month to work as things like this seem to have an accumulative effect. So I have nothing to offer at the moment but are curious as to how well others are 'zotting' with it in the meantime ;)

Peace to everyone reading these words.

I have been using the oil for 7 days and I have noticed a more than usual cleansing effect for the first 4 days. This could be also due to the combination of the oil and osha root. Concentration level is higher.

Peace

[9eagle9]

Four days? Really. I have some osha here so I may as well give that a whirl. Are you directly ingesting the osha in some fashion too or chewing on it?

[Arrowwind]

HiThe site adress is http://ratfishoil.com/

The oil removes the effects of chlorine, fluorine and heavy metals.


The above makes me think that it may contain sufficient iodine to do this work, yet no mention of iodine is made. Anyone know? Since I already supplement with lugols iodine it is an important consideration.

and, what does this oil taste like? How do you get it into your body?

[conk]

Raw butter from grass-fed cows also contains the mysterious and rare Activator X. It was discovered or described by Dr. Weston Price, who wrote the 'bible' on health and nutrition. Of course raw butter is very hard to find, especially from grass-fed cows. It can be purchased under the name X-Factor Gold High Vitamin Butter Oil.

Not saying it's the same as ratfish oil, but is another extremely beneficial fat.

[Yoda]

I have some concerns about eating fish scientifically, aside from the moral reasons. The ratfish is a sea floor cleaner, that means it consumes material close to or from the sea floor. The north atlantic has been known to contain a high level of pollution, somewhere in the region of 200,000 pieces of platic per KmSq. REF (http://pollutionarticles.blogspot.com/2010/02/north-atlantic-polluted-by-plastic.html). This debris is found also as a soup of minute plastic slivers that is now clogging the sea floor ecosystem. It's a major problem.

The issue is that because the ratfish feeds of the floor, it is likely to be a creature with high toxic contamination levels. If this oil is extracted from the liver, it is very likely that there will be toxicity in the product. Fatty material and oil is a prime molecular bonder with contaminants. These could be items such as persistent toxins, PCBs, DDT, pesticides, furans, dioxins, phenols and radioactive waste. REF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_pollution)

While the oil may be very high in antioxidants and other fabulous properties, we don't know how toxic it may be and that is a critical question that has to be adressed and answered with some good research and evidense before I would consider it safe to use.

Pete Peterson is a superb scientist and thinker, he really should make more comment on this and ideally do the research himself.

Now that the Price Foundation has identified Activator X , as Vitamin K2

http://www.westonaprice.org/abcs-of-nutrition/175-x-factor-is-vitamin-k2.html

The Japanese have developped a Soy-base source of Vitamin K2, called Natto

http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/v_k2.html

A Norwegian company "NattoPharma" makes Natto-based Vitamin K2

http://www.inno-vite.com/brochures/pdf.php?file=Bonefactor-Brochure-E

The mystery of Activator X can go from pure "RatFish Oil" to all sorts of alternate sources of Vitamin K2.

[nearing]

Curious if this:

MK-7 (Menaquinone-7) is an enhanced bioactive form of vitamin K2, also known as Menaquinones (http://www.lifeextensionvitamins.com/mkvik2asmeja.html)

would fit the bill if one is already supplementing with enough Vitamins A,D, and E and/or doesn't like the idea of killing fish for their livers :(

[fourty-two]

Vitacost sells K2 supplements I buy their Vitamin K complex $25 which has 200mcg of K2.
Their K2 only has just 100mcg of K2.
go to vitacost.com I have dealt with them for several years and am very satisfied with their products.

[anonion]

HiThe site adress is http://ratfishoil.com/

The oil removes the effects of chlorine, fluorine and heavy metals.


The above makes me think that it may contain sufficient iodine to do this work, yet no mention of iodine is made. Anyone know? Since I already supplement with lugols iodine it is an important consideration.

and, what does this oil taste like? How do you get it into your body?

Hi Arrowwind

I'm not scientifically educated but in checking out iodine supplementation I came across the Law of Halogen displacement, which means that any one of these four halogens can displace the element with a higher atomic weight but not one with a lower atomic weight. So flourine can displace chlorine bromine and iodine, chlorine can displace bromine and iodine and bromine can displace iodine. If you are supplementing with iodine you would have to keep flourine chlorine and bromine at a minimum in your system (if not completely out of if possible) to the best of my knowledge.

I,ve just received some ratfish oil from ratfishoil.com and have been using it for just two days taking the drops under the tongue. It has an oily fish taste but it is not strong and I am not finding it unpleasant. I have not noticed anything that says the ratfish oil contains or removes the effects of iodine. Also I do take Lugols iodine.

[omeriko]

I drip it into a glass with some little water, only enough to make it float all the way to my mouth when I tip the glass to my mouth.

It makes it easier to count the drops that way.

[TheVoyager]

You are very welcome, TheVoyager! I am using the Ratfish oil though.

I can tell you that it really supplements energy work.

Peace

Hi again! Just wanted to say that I've ordered the ratfish oil from Norway. I was impressed with how these guys treated me, they were very kind and very helpful.
I got it today! :)

Thanks to everybody for all the information!!!

Btw, the information I have about the pineal gland is that this gland is a receiver of the mental energy and regulates the right side of the brain. The pituitary on the other hand is supposed to be a transmitter of the mental energy and is responsible for the left hand of the brain.

[Patrish]

Hi
I've just started using the ratfish oil from Norway. I will keep you posted on any changes.

Patrish x

[Caden]

I was not able to find any hard research on skate liver oil specifically, so I was advised by my attending Naturopathic Doctor to stick with commercial Fish Oil EPA/DHA, which is harvested from anchovies, sardines and mackerel. I kind of figured "it's all good", you know. It's just fatty acids, right?

However, I've been on these fish oil capsules for a while now, and I have not experienced any new flashes of Pineal activity, however you might experience that...

Is there reason to think that this skate liver oil has got something that my standard fish oil does not?

[nearing]

Does anyone know the recommended (not by the Gov, but rather by Peterson or someone like him) daily allowance of the K2 in mcgs a person trying to decalcify the pineal gland should take?

Caden, no it's not the omegas that we are trying to get into our blood but the K2 (aka Activator X, on the Weston Price site). Which isn't in regular fish oil. Go to the beginning of this thread. I think on page one there is a link to the Pete peterson video where he talks of this substance.

hope that helps.

[Caden]

Dang, so it's the K2 "Activator X" substance. Obviously I missed that. Thanks for the tip.

[David Hughes]

Interesting.

Does anyone have any idea why Petersson was so elusive when asked about where exactly the oil came from? Why withhold valuable info like that?

[Carmody]

The old Avalon site says it is the 'Mk-4' (K2) variant that is to be used?

[Yoda]

The old Avalon site says it is the 'Mk-4' (K2) variant that is to be used?

This is from the Weston Price Foundation:

Supplementing with Vitamin K2
The best sources of vitamin K2 are fermented foods and grass-fed animal fats. These foods contain a wide array of nutrients that may act synergistically with vitamin K2 in ways we do not yet understand. Price 's vitamin-rich butter and butter oil concentrate provided not only vitamin K2 but also vitamin E, vitamin A, vitamin D, conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) and other nutrients. Nevertheless, some people may wish to supplement with vitamin K2 if they do not have access to high-quality food, wish to use a higher dose to treat a health condition, or want extra insurance.

Two forms of vitamin K2 supplements are commercially available: menaquinone-4 (MK-4), also called menatetrenone, and menaquinone-7 (MK-7). MK-4 is a synthetic product that is believed to be chemically and physiologically identical to the vitamin K2 found in animal fats. This form has been used in most of the animal experiments and in the Japanese osteoporosis studies. Although synthetic, it is effective, and there is no known toxicity. MK-7 is a natural extract of natto, a fermented soy food popular in Eastern Japan. MK-4 is much less expensive than MK-7, but no studies have yet compared the efficacy of these two forms.

Menaquinone-4 Supplements: Thorne Research and Carlson Laboratories both offer cost-effective MK-4 supplements. Thorne's product is a liquid supplement. The MK-4 is dissolved in a medium-chain triglyceride base (the fats found in coconut oil) with mixed tocopherols (vitamin E). Carlson's product is less expensive than Thorne's, but comes in dry capsules primarily composed of cellulose and other fillers, and allows the user less control over the dose.

Menaquinone-7 Supplements: Jarrow Formulas and Source Naturals both offer cost-effective MK-7 supplements. Source Naturals' product is less expensive, but Jarrow's contains fewer additives and certifies that the soy used to make the product is not genetically modified. Vitamin K2 supplements interfere with the activity of oral anticoagulants such as warfarin. Patients who are using warfarin should only use vitamin K2 supplements with the knowledge of the prescribing physician.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[9eagle9]

I began the skatefish oil today. Two caplets so off the top of the head there's 20 drops there. Now I'm not really prone to the power of suggestion ....but about an hour after taking it I'm climbing up the wall .If I had six more arms I'd have my to do list done by this evening. I'm all gung ho and roaring ahead with a project I've been dragging my heels with for months. And my horse like appetite has seems to have toddled off to graze somewhere else. Not sure if its because I'm on a modified detox or not, but I felt like my usual lazy procrastinating slothful bottomless pit self prior to taking them.....

[firstlook]

the ratfish would likely prefer to keep its own liver -- did anyone talk to the ratfish about this first?

Hopefully the need for food comes before any other uses. It would be good to know the fishing practices involved first.

[nearing]

I began the skatefish oil today. Two caplets so off the top of the head there's 20 drops there. Now I'm not really prone to the power of suggestion ....but about an hour after taking it I'm climbing up the wall .If I had six more arms I'd have my to do list done by this evening. I'm all gung ho and roaring ahead with a project I've been dragging my heels with for months. And my horse like appetite has seems to have toddled off to graze somewhere else. Not sure if its because I'm on a modified detox or not, but I felt like my usual lazy procrastinating slothful bottomless pit self prior to taking them.....

9eagle9,

Does it say on your package or bottle what the amount of mcg's of K2 is in a serving?

[9eagle9]

Nope it doesn't say.



I began the skatefish oil today. Two caplets so off the top of the head there's 20 drops there. Now I'm not really prone to the power of suggestion ....but about an hour after taking it I'm climbing up the wall .If I had six more arms I'd have my to do list done by this evening. I'm all gung ho and roaring ahead with a project I've been dragging my heels with for months. And my horse like appetite has seems to have toddled off to graze somewhere else. Not sure if its because I'm on a modified detox or not, but I felt like my usual lazy procrastinating slothful bottomless pit self prior to taking them.....

9eagle9,

Does it say on your package or bottle what the amount of mcg's of K2 is in a serving?

[nearing]

Nope it doesn't say.

Darn, I have been trying to find out hoe much of the K2 should be taken daily for decalcifying the Pineal. My bottle has capsules of 45cg but I know there are others out there with 200mcg. That's a pretty big difference.

Anyone else know the 'RDA'?

[9eagle9]

I'm going to muscle test for it, specific to me, and then for a general guide line for other people. Give us something to work with as we intrepid our way into this brave new world of fish livers...

[nearing]

I'm going to muscle test for it, specific to me, and then for a general guide line for other people. Give us something to work with as we intrepid our way into this brave new world of fish livers...

Hey, that's a great idea! I wish I knew how to do that. Anyway, it will be a good starting point.

[Heather2017]

For those interested, I've been taking Blue Ice fermented skate liver oil for a couple of months now, and third-eye activity has definitely increased.

In the 90s, I would see many things with eyes closed and as a layer over the 3d. Over the years, the visions went away. Now they're returning, and I'm very grateful.

Many thanks to those who suggested the product! :cool:

[An Cailleach]

Yay..I've just received my ratfish oil in the mail. For the price i paid, it would want to be good LOL.

[Laurel]

I have been really curious about ratfish oil for months. It's so darned expensive (the larger bottle is about $200), and every post that I have read about it, here and on other forums, is from people just starting to try it.

So... those of you who purchased it months ago from ratfishoil.com, what is your opinion? Did you notice anything over time? Did you like it so much that you purchased it again?

Also, I've been buying Organic Valley Pasture Butter for the past month or so. I'm not sure it is decalcifying anything except my toast, but it tastes great. It is only available seasonally, so if you can find it, buy a few and freeze it.

[nomadguy]

The best and easiest way I know of to decalcify glands is to use tumeric in your meals.
In addition to decalcification,
The Rat Fish Oil I hear can do marvelous things for your bone health. I hope this discussion can nudge that direction. In the Pete Peterson Interview the discussion turned to the rat fish oil and the possible re-growth of teeth and bones. This is a hugely interesting topic in my view!

[DNA]

the ratfish would likely prefer to keep its own liver -- did anyone talk to the ratfish about this first?

Just thought I would bump, and point out a post that seems silly while I do so.
I think the species(ratfish) as a whole would gladly take this time they have on earth and donate 10% of thier species if they thought mankinds enlightenment would take place, and they wouldn't all have to die in the ensuing cesspool the ocean is about to become if a bump in consciousness doesn't take place.

A healthy pineal gland means greater communication with our higher selves. Why don't we put ratfish oil in the water instead of flouride I wonder?

[DNA]

all very interesting........

does anyone have any idea why this Petersson guy was so elusive when asked about where exactly the oil came from?

i dont get that part - why withhold potentially valuable info like this?

hmmmm.........maybe it has something to do with him not wanting to get in trouble with the medical/pharmaceutical industry who know about the potency of this stuff...........im pretty certain it has very little to do with him wanting to protect the fish - he mentions somewhere else in that interview that he eats meat - 'steak' i think it was............

also, i was reading the website and it says to start off with 10 drops, morning AND evening for at least 6 weeks.......

so, thats 20 drops/day for lets say 50 days which is obviously 1000 drops in total.........

1 bottle of the oil has around 230 drops ....... so you are really going to need to buy at least 4 bottles for starters.......

and after that the website recommends a further 10 drops/day as maintenance which means a bottle is only going to last around
3 weeks..........

so by my calculations, if u are taking this stuff for 1 year based on the recommended dosage, it works out that you will need
around 14 bottles ........... thats $700 excluding delivery costs ...........

quite expensive but maybe it pays for itself in the long run........

He seemed to not want to say a lot of things on film, that he was probably willing to say to David, Bill and Kerry off film. That is why I would go ahead and believe what David has to say about the skate fish oil being the same thing.
I'm sure he has stated a lot to these three he wouldn't say on film.

[WhiteFeather]

Just ordered this today: Gonna give it a shot.

BLUE ICE™ Infused


http://www.greenpasture.org/images/database/3458.jpg

Kid-Friendly ALL-IN-ONE. 65% Minimum Organic Virgin Coconut oil is the carrier, infused with Fermented Cod Liver Oil, Fermented Skate Liver Oil & X-Factor High Vitamin Butter Oil. Cost effective, pleasant taste & odor, ease of digestion & absorption


BLUE ICE™ Infused Organic Virgin Coconut Oil - CARAMEL-13.75 oz.

Organic, Virgin Coconut Oil-Blue Ice™, X-Factor™ Infused - Organic Caramel Flavoring.

Exciting new way to take all your nutritional oils in one easy, convenient, tasty product.

Introducing our new line of Blue Ice Infused Coconut oil. Each serving will be 65% min coconut oil, 2+/-ml of Blue Ice Fermented Cod Liver Oil, and .5ml +/- of X-Factor Gold High Vitamin Butter oil and / or Blue Ice Skate Liver Oil.

Product Info

Organic, Virgin Coconut Oil-Blue Ice™, X-Factor™ Infused - Organic Caramel Flavoring

http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/index.cfm

[bigles1875]

Hey folks im just wondering if anyone has a update on how they are getting on with these oils. I'm trying to get myself to start taking something to help me fight back against all the poisons and toxins in forced to breath, eat and drink. Any views and help would be appreciated.

[PurpleLama]

Just ordered this today: Gonna give it a shot.

BLUE ICE™ Infused


http://www.greenpasture.org/images/database/3458.jpg

Kid-Friendly ALL-IN-ONE. 65% Minimum Organic Virgin Coconut oil is the carrier, infused with Fermented Cod Liver Oil, Fermented Skate Liver Oil & X-Factor High Vitamin Butter Oil. Cost effective, pleasant taste & odor, ease of digestion & absorption


BLUE ICE™ Infused Organic Virgin Coconut Oil - CARAMEL-13.75 oz.

Organic, Virgin Coconut Oil-Blue Ice™, X-Factor™ Infused - Organic Caramel Flavoring.

Exciting new way to take all your nutritional oils in one easy, convenient, tasty product.

Introducing our new line of Blue Ice Infused Coconut oil. Each serving will be 65% min coconut oil, 2+/-ml of Blue Ice Fermented Cod Liver Oil, and .5ml +/- of X-Factor Gold High Vitamin Butter oil and / or Blue Ice Skate Liver Oil.

Product Info

Organic, Virgin Coconut Oil-Blue Ice™, X-Factor™ Infused - Organic Caramel Flavoring

http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/index.cfm

I also got a big bottle of this stuff, and I find it goes down great with a spoonful of honey. I have had great results from their products in the past.

IMO, the Cinnamon Tingle gel tasted much better(cod/butter oils), but this is by far the most for the money of all the available products.

[42]

Hey folks im just wondering if anyone has a update on how they are getting on with these oils. I'm trying to get myself to start taking something to help me fight back against all the poisons and toxins in forced to breath, eat and drink. Any views and help would be appreciated.

Last year i started ordering Ratfish Oil from Norway... I went through about 15 (small) bottles over the course of several months. Basically i noticed no difference to my physical, spiritual or pineal well-being and so i stopped taking it before i went bankrupt. It's very expensive...

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I have the Blue Ice Royal caps myself, makes me burp fishy, at least turpentine burps remind me of Christmas, no such luck with the fish oil btw, besides that, great stuff, when I think of the Pete Peterson interviews I'd say it was one of the better Camelot interviews but more than once I have thought of Mr Peterson as doing an extended infomercial of his own products, wouldn't surprise me if his fingers are well intended imbedded in fish oil production from for instance Green Pastures, after all, he is a very clever bastard, he told us so himself.;).

:cow: MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Hey folks im just wondering if anyone has a update on how they are getting on with these oils. I'm trying to get myself to start taking something to help me fight back against all the poisons and toxins in forced to breath, eat and drink. Any views and help would be appreciated.

Good stuff but no holy grail, I use the Green Pasture stuff myself, recently though I heard KRILL oil has a better omega spread with less omega 6es in them, the sixes you need the least of.

[42]

Hey folks im just wondering if anyone has a update on how they are getting on with these oils. I'm trying to get myself to start taking something to help me fight back against all the poisons and toxins in forced to breath, eat and drink. Any views and help would be appreciated.

Last year i started ordering Ratfish Oil from Norway... I went through about 15 (small) bottles over the course of several months. Basically i noticed no difference to my physical, spiritual or pineal well-being and so i stopped taking it before i went bankrupt. It's very expensive...

Post update:
after spending hundreds on RatFish oil, i've swung the other way... if you really want to cleanse your body and pineal of calcification and toxins I suggest completely eliminating all recreational toxins and try to find a pure source of natural water (tested well water for example) that contains no fluoride or chlorine; both of which are Halides and are the biggest contributor to calcification. Drink lots of the stuff and take D3... thats it. (JMHO...)

[PurpleLama]

I have the Blue Ice Royal caps myself, makes me burp fishy, at least turpentine burps remind me of Christmas, no such luck with the fish oil btw, besides that, great stuff, when I think of the Pete Peterson interviews I'd say it was one of the better Camelot interviews but more than once I have thought of Mr Peterson as doing an extended infomercial of his own products, wouldn't surprise me if his fingers are well intended imbedded in fish oil production from for instance Green Pastures, after all, he is a very clever bastard, he told us so himself.;).

:cow: MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


It was reading up on Weston Price (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_Price) that sold me, although I confess it was following the Peterson/Wilcock lead that took me to their products, and subsequently to Price. I had a drastic change in my own health since taking the stuff, and am glad to have another big bottle in the house. It is recommended to refrigerate, and eating the solid oil was tough until I mixed it with honey, then it was great. No fishy burps, either. I had that too, when I got the caps to begin with.

[Subcoder]

Skate Fish is NOT the same as Ratfish, they're two completely different kinds of fish. While Skate Fish Oil is an OK supplement it also pales in comparison to Ratfish Oil. Ratfish Oil is far superior on every level; better A-D ratio, has 6 Omega's (3,4,6,7,9,11), is a complete aminogram and is more antioxidant. Green Pastures was shady from my experience and they'll ignore any requests for pure skate fish oil.

I've taken both and spending the extra 15-20 bucks is 100% worth it.