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D-Day
6th May 2011, 07:04
Hi all,

I came across the below video while looking around on You Tube last night and thought I'd post it here as it seemed pretty interesting.

What does everyone make of this information??

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Calz
6th May 2011, 07:22
Interesting.

Could use other sources for verification.

Should show up on google if co-ordinates were known (and this is legit).

Thanx for the post

noprophet
6th May 2011, 07:31
I read about this earlier, very interesting stuff.

It would be nice if we could get some kind of information - pictures, audio, video - just something to substantiate it.

D-Day
6th May 2011, 07:41
This is all I've been able to find so far, it's basically just a copy of the article being shown in the video footage I posted above.

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/553/845/Deadly_time_vortex_appears_over_Antarctica.html

I'll see what else I can find...

oceanz
6th May 2011, 08:45
Combine this thread with the one I posted today:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19906-NASA-experiements-confirms-space-time-vortex-around-Earth

Note this picture below and how the vortex is most concentrated at the bottom (Antartica):

http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2011/05/04/twist_strip.jpg/image_full

Previous posts in PA have mentioned:
1) Strange white cloud over Antartica when conducting a google earth search
2) Mentioning of someone drilling magnetic balls into Antartica

In the clip above, it mentions that interest was intense by other countries as to what the US was doing in Antartica right up to 9/11 and then their attention was diverted. 9/11 False flag re: Antartica?

Magnetic Time Vortex to the past, that's a lot of power to get a hold of.

noprophet
6th May 2011, 08:50
Great catch oceanz; there is a good chance that whatever is happening in Antarctica could have led to this study being released by NASA.

D-Day
6th May 2011, 09:11
Combine this thread with the one I posted today:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19906-NASA-experiements-confirms-space-time-vortex-around-Earth

Note this picture below and how the vortex is most concentrated at the bottom (Antartica):

http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2011/05/04/twist_strip.jpg/image_full

Previous posts in PA have mentioned:
1) Strange white cloud over Antartica when conducting a google earth search
2) Mentioning of someone drilling magnetic balls into Antartica

In the clip above, it mentions that interest was intense by other countries as to what the US was doing in Antartica right up to 9/11 and then their attention was diverted. 9/11 False flag re: Antartica?

Magnetic Time Vortex to the past, that's a lot of power to get a hold of.

Hi oceanz,

I was considering posting my video in your thread but to be honest I wasn't completely convinced the two subjects were inter-related... didn't want to hijack you're thread basically;)

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice the correlation... interesting huh!

oceanz
6th May 2011, 09:25
Yes D-DAY, my thoughts exactly.

I should say about the strange white cloud over Antartica - I think the correct words were "covering up" Antartica.
Also I wanted to add that said "covering up" conjurs up a picture of HAARP which I think came online in 1994. When did the US set up base in Antartica and when did they start poking around prior to 9/11 - after HAARP came online?

In regards to a magnetic time vortex I wonder if there any similarities with Antartica and other places, i.e Bermuda Triangle?

Thefrenzy1978
6th May 2011, 10:36
yes those areas have been aways blotted out on google earth and i have all aways wondered why maybe because of this , its very intresting video would be good to confirm the missing reporters in that area as they probley recorded what ever happened to them .

intresting that 9/11 could have been a flase flag event to draw attention away from this it would not surprise me in the slightest if what this video shows is true they would have the most powerful weapon on the planet if they had time travel they would not use it for good only to gain im going to try and research this matter further thank you D-Day for pointing this vid out to us .

thanx Mike

mesta0ptik
6th May 2011, 10:51
Nice find.

I believe Antarctica has many answers yet to be revealed.

D-Day
6th May 2011, 10:59
im going to try and research this matter further thank you D-Day for pointing this vid out to us .

thanx Mike

Hi Frenzy,

Good luck to you friend, I haven't been able to find ANYTHING worthwhile yet... hope you have better luck than I did ;)

oceanz
6th May 2011, 13:11
I'm just gonna post some ideas out there on this one:

1) Before world war 2 Germany was doing some exploration in Antartica between 1938-1939 (note the logo in the picture below which is similar to the space time vortex lines in photo above):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/LogoNeu.jpg

2) After world war 2 (1939-1945) Operation 'Highjump' was conducted in Antartica from 1946-1947. Task Force 68 included 4,700 men, 13 ships, and multiple aircraft.

3) Shortly after US conducted Operation 'Windmill'.

----> Highjump and Windmill names suggest some sort of leaping and spinning like a vortex.

4) Operation Highjump has become a topic among UFO conspiracy theorists, who claim it was a covert US military operation to conquer alleged secret underground Nazi facilities in Antarctica.

5) Antarctica essentially doubles in size during the winter as the surrounding sea water freezes (Antarctic Connection). The subsequent annual summer melt of the estimated 7,000,000 square miles (18,000,000 km2) of ice that rings Antarctica creates the planet’s largest seasonal climate event (USA Today). The result is a vertical circulation driven by a massive heat and energy exchange between ice, ocean, and atmosphere.
----> Vertical circulation - could this be a downward vertical circulation?

6) climatologist Gerd Wendler published in the National Science Foundation’s Antarctic Sun, one could dive to the ocean floor anywhere in the world and encounter water from the coast of Antarctica. "Seventy five percent of all the bottom water, wherever you are, comes from Antarctica."

7) PA thread about "water has memory" http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18751-Water-Has-Memory-Scientific-Proof-from-Oasis-HD-Channel

8) EPA, Army Corps draft new Clean Water Act guidelines that threaten to seize control of all water supplies/sources

9) omen-scientists-dismayed-as-millions-of-aquatic-animals-swarm-antarctica (the extinction protocol)

10) The ozone hole over Antartica:

http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef01538e024904970b-800wi

11) Giant whirlpools in some oceans

http://www.jungleapocalypse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/whirlpool-620x250.jpg

12) Birds, fish, turtles, dolphins - thousands of them dying as they use magnetic fields to find their bearings.

I don't know what this all means, maybe it doesn't relate much but I conclude that it may be something to do with water and magnetic energy fields...

D-Day
6th May 2011, 13:19
Love your work oceanz!

You've brought some interesting points to this discussion.

Ok, so now all we have to do is connect all the dots... should be easy... right? ;)

oceanz
6th May 2011, 13:25
roflmao - yeah, real easy.

I just posted on the water is memory thread that if water is memory then these new laws the US government is trying to introduce to control water supplies/sources may be so they can tamper with the water by adding fluoride.

What I didn't also say that has just occured to me, is that, if humans are something like 70% water and Antartica is just one big frozen bit of water - there maybe something important there on how the whole Magnetic Time Vortex/Space Time Vortex works...something to do with the water.

oceanz
6th May 2011, 13:31
And just another thought while I'm thinking:

Maybe the ozone hole is where it is suppose to be because "vertical circulation driven by a massive heat and energy exchange between ice, ocean, and atmosphere".

The sun has been producing some big solar flares lately that would much more easily penetrate that area where the ozone hole is which would produce a massive amount of heat that Antartica has never really had before.

Kind of like a perfect storm to test out the theory of time vortex.

oceanz
7th May 2011, 05:00
Something else to add to the puzzle:


http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/05/07/mystery-of-cosmic-ray-source-bombarding-the-southern-pole-of-earth-intensifies/

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHQ6JZ4mdiYkc4vHJ-6IhOTzzI3dq-qlWSVoVfFu-T3oLdrIhC

May 6, 2011 – ANTARCTICA – Cosmic rays crashing into the Earth over the South Pole appear to be coming from particular locations, rather than being distributed uniformly across the sky. Similar cosmic ray “hotspots” have been seen in the northern skies too, yet we know of no source close enough to produce this pattern. “We don’t know where they are coming from,” says Stefan Westerhoff of the University of Wisconsin-Madison. It’s a mystery because the hotspots must be produced within about 0.03 light years of Earth. Further out, galactic magnetic fields should deflect the particles so much that the hotspots would be smeared out across the sky. But no such sources are known to exist. One of the hotspots seen by IceCube points in the direction of the Vela supernova remnant, a possible source of cosmic rays, but it’s almost 1000 light years away. Cosmic rays coming from such large distances should be constantly buffeted and deflected by galactic magnetic fields on route, and should thus have lost all directionality by the time they reach Earth. In other words, such long-distance cosmic rays should appear to come from all parts of the sky. That’s not what has been observed. –New Scientists

Ilie Pandia
7th May 2011, 12:19
It appears we have a paradox here:



After a several minutes, they decided to retrieve the balloon. Despite some difficulty with the winch they succeeded in bringing the balloon back to earth and checked the instruments. McLein stated that everyone was stunned by the readout on the chronometer. It displayed a date decades in the past: January 27, 1965.


Assuming that time flows backwards in that "vortex" and it does so at much greater speed than our normal perception of "time flow", we have the following problem:

The chronometer would go back in time... counting time backwards... until it reaches the time when that chronometer was first started after being built. Before that date the chronometer would cease to exist! And therefore could not count backwards anymore.

So this is a big issue I have with alleged time being actually measured to flow backwards... it's like this "time" property, that the chronometer somehow keeps track of, does not affect the chronometer itself... the chronometer appears to out-side of "time" so then how can it measure "time"?

That being said, I agree that something must be happening at the south pole... where there's smoke must be fire, right?

Mad Hatter
7th May 2011, 13:39
Hmmm I've got that synchronystic feeling again. Probably less than 10 minutes ago I dug out of my library a Dan brown book to check a reference to artificial spying insects for mention on another thread. Low and behold I arrive here to find real world references to what is described in that book. "Deception Point'. Copyrighted in 2001. I know that fictional works don't count as a cross reference but the similarities are still quite remarkable regarding a buried object, which in the books case is yet another pyramid.

Methinks Mr. Brown must have a very interesting circle of friends. Either that or I'll take a pound of whatever he's on... :p

D-Day
7th May 2011, 13:48
Hmmm I've got that synchronystic feeling again. Probably less than 10 minutes ago I dug out of my library a Dan brown book to check a reference to artificial spying insects for mention on another thread. Low and behold I arrive here to find real world references to what is described in that book. "Deception Point'. Copyrighted in 2001. I know that fictional works don't count as a cross reference but the similarities are still quite remarkable regarding a buried object, which in the books case is yet another pyramid.

Methinks Mr. Brown must have a very interesting circle of friends. Either that or I'll take a pound of whatever he's on... :p

You know what, the moment I came accross this news article on You Tube I made the same connection!

I read Deeption Point about 4 years ago and you're spot on.. the similarities between that book and the story behind this information is quite uncanny!

king anthony
7th May 2011, 15:29
It appears we have a paradox here...

The chronometer would go back in time... counting time backwards... until it reaches the time when that chronometer was first started after being built. Before that date the chronometer would cease to exist! And therefore could not count backwards anymore.

The topic of time was discussed in this thread: TIME DOES NOT EXIST - verified my previous posts today by BBC NEWS (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17054-TIME-DOES-NOT-EXIST-verified-my-previous-posts-today-by-BBC-NEWS).

This is explained in this post: Re: How does Destiny fit in with Timelines (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15607-How-does-Destiny-fit-in-with-Timelines&p=165955#post165955).

I say, not to complicate the uncomplicated, as then "how to" make step becomes the focus and not the journey or destination.

Ilie Pandia
7th May 2011, 15:45
King Anthony,

Those are quite long threads and I can't find quickly and explanation for the paradox I've wrote about.

If time does not exist that why are they using a chronometer to measure "time"? And how come that measured "time" flows backwards...

I am not saying that I fully understand what is happening... I am just saying that I do not believe their conclusions about time are correct based on their story.

king anthony
7th May 2011, 16:30
King Anthony,

Those are quite long threads and I can't find quickly and explanation for the paradox I've wrote about.

The second link in my previous post (#20) is the explanation to the paradox you posed. There is no paradox as what is now (the present) simply adds to what was (the past). The example of the "water in cups" means, that if "something" from now (or the future depending on perspective) goes back in "time", "it" adds to (or becomes part of ) that "time" - once "something" is, it remains - even if one was to eliminate their parents in the "past".

I spoke of "time being an illusion" when I was a child, to understand this is to know about me (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14601-The-One-With-No-Face-My-Story-My-Life).

To quote a post of mine (#24) from the first link (thread) - "Time' is an illusion; however, not in the holographic sense as it has been made out to be. It is about perception and the foundation of perception is emotion, which are 'chemicals' within the 'bio-computer' of the body."

Time is a "tool of humankind" - "time" is change - and the tool of "time" measures changes. Devices, such as the "chronometer" is a (sub) tool that may have surpassed the confines of this "cup" (referring to the above said post #20), meaning the (sub) tool may have stepped out of this linear.

To understand "what is happening", the understanding of what time is, how matter is within each moment and why things are is needed - thus my brief introduction to "time".

Ilie Pandia
7th May 2011, 23:22
Hello King Anthony,

First, I am sorry for misspelling your name (I've fixed it!)

And now... I will have to take some time to wrap my head around your explanation...

Thank you for all the clues and indications.

oceanz
8th May 2011, 10:36
Quote from Carmody in the 'Time does not exist thread' http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17054-TIME-DOES-NOT-EXIST-verified-my-previous-posts-today-by-BBC-NEWS/page2
Atomic structuring of vorticies, or the vortex of atomic structure that is made up of an 'inne' and an 'outie' of a minimum of two 2d waves. What I mean is that two 2d waves meet and one is at a different vibration and intersect with the other and thus at their meeting point they create a 'particle' and the particle has a inner spin and an outer spin and this balance out as a dual vortex. This is the Fibonacci aspect of the particles that make up an 'atomic structure' we call an atom.

http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2011/05/04/twist_strip.jpg/image_full

Using the information that Carmody has presented and the picture above, my interpretation of time would be the lines orbiting the Earth would be the man made creation of a unit called "time". In the case of Earth, lets say 365 days.

The horizontal lines would be 'Past, Present, Future" and where they intersect the orbiting lines of "time" I would class as "Now".

So imagine more orbiting lines and horizontal lines and where they intersect would be "Now, now, now, now" infinite.

So at the smallest measurement of "time" the "Now" is you "Past, present and future".

Anyway, that's just my interpretation. (will post this say comment on the time does not exist thread).

ktlight
8th May 2011, 16:43
I read about this earlier, very interesting stuff.

It would be nice if we could get some kind of information - pictures, audio, video - just something to substantiate it.

Richard Hoagland, a former NASA white house liason for 30 years spoke of the same thing in an interview with Alex Jones several years ago. That they had physics that literally allowed them to re-arrange time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFD6q10m_G4

starting around 6.20 mark

oceanz
10th May 2011, 05:12
1) White cloud over Antartica - was it caused by this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20020-Nasa-playing-god&p=213255&highlight=nasa+playing+god#post213255

2) Operation Highjump and Windmill were conducted by Admiral Richard E. Byrd. Was he chosen to go to Antartica due to having some experience with time travel?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20063-Admiral-Byrd-Land-Beyond-The-Poles-2-19-47&p=213590&highlight=byrd#post213590

When Byrd returned to the States, he was hospitalized and was not allowed
to hold any more press conferences. In March 1955, he was placed in charge
of Operation Deepfreeze which was part of the International Geophysical
Year (1957-1958) exploration of the Antarctic. He died, some have suggested
he was murdered, in 1957...
http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Bruce_Walton_The_Underground_Nazi_Invasion_17.html


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4030-Hollow-earth&p=36954&highlight=byrd#post36954

Quote from Morguana
It has always been alleged that Admiral Byrd on one of his expeditions to the poles, radioed back that he had found another world and it was tropical. Again, perhaps he slide into another dimension and the stargate to this dimension was or is near the poles.

3) Does it have anything to do with the Templers that were founded to help the New Kingdom of Jerusalem


Just as there have been claims of "warm" land in Antarctica which
the Nazis may have taken advantage of, there have historically existed leg-
ends of other "lost lands" or valleys in the northern extremities. For instance,
one legend is spoken of in the Apocryphal book of II Esdras, chapter 13. This
is a book of non-canonical Jewish legends and such which were gathered
during the 400-year "period of silence" which existed between the closing of
the Old Testament [Torah] and the New Testament records. This apocryphal
work, although not considered to contain "infallible and divinely inspired"
revelation, does give an interesting passage on the possible whereabouts
of the 9 1/2 "lost" tribes of Israel.
http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Bruce_Walton_The_Underground_Nazi_Invasion_17.html


Maybe they actually went south for the winter :p

The Templers were thought to go as far as the Pacific (maybe as far as Antartica as they appeared to know of a large mass in existence in the south)?
* In Roman times the Dutch referred to Australia as New Holland
* New Zealand was named after a Dutch province of Zealand
* Papua New Guinea was Dutch New Guinea or Netherlands New Guinea
* Vanuatu was New Hebrides (after the Isles of west coast of Scotland)
* When the Nazis were doing their expedition they called Antartica New Swabia
* When Admiral Byrd went to Antartica it was called New America IV (note the Roman numerals)
* Australia, New Zealand, Vanutau and New Calendonia was part of the submerged continent Zealandia
* New Calendonia (Calendonia is a latin name for Scotland) and has the name of Calliou (meaning "the stone"), when it broke apart of Zealandia it was known as the Noahs Ark of sorts.
--> the stone may have reference to more than just its rugged coastline.

The Antartic Treaty signed by 45 countries came into force in 1961 that no Military be allowed there unless for scientific research.

What is there in Antartica?

oceanz
10th May 2011, 11:40
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20210-NASA-to-Launch-Telescope-That-Will-See-Into-the-Past

"Light from distant galaxies, billions of light years away from us, is so faint that it shifts from the visible spectrum ino the infrared segment and becomes heat. It can be detected only by instruments cooled to almost absolute zero. The U.S. space agency NASA is building a new space telescope that will be cool in both senses of the word.

In the "clean room" of NASA's Goddard Space Center, outside Washington, engineers are building the new infrared space telescope named after NASA's second director James Webb. They hope that when deployed in 2014. it will help them look many billions of light years into the past.

Perhaps they already have made a test telescope.