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23VorteX23
6th May 2011, 17:08
Is anybody here knowledgeable in the teachings of G. I. Gurdjieff? I have studied him for a number of years and he is not known by anyone!!! Perhaps someone in this forum is as intrigued as I am by this mysterious man...

Tony
6th May 2011, 17:27
Gurdjeff had a student called Ouspenski.
Dr Roles of The Study Society taught Gurdjief's and Ouspenski's fourth way method (Meditation and Turning).
Dr Roles taught me meditation.
Mr. MacLaren discovered the teachings of Gurdjief and Ouspenksi
and started the School of Economic Science.
I used to belong to SES.

Both exist today

pie'n'eal

Bob_2011
6th May 2011, 17:40
Ive read one of his works," Beelzebub,s Tales to His Grandson", very interesting i thought, especialy the Mars stories, it gets a bit heavy in places, as its over a thousand pages. and no i didnt mean the weight of it, l:der:

I will need to read it again at sometime in the future to fully grasp it.

heyokah
6th May 2011, 18:05
Have all the books of Gurdjief's and Ouspenski's.
I started reading them some 35 years ago, re-read them regularly and every time I'll find new layers of understanding.

The most valuable thing Gurdjieff gave me was his warning to "verify everything for myself" ....

The One
6th May 2011, 19:21
try these


http://www.archive.org/details/btthg31.pdf

http://www.archive.org/details/BeelzebubstalesToHisGrandson.Chapter43War

Try typing his name and searching on the archive quite a bit of stuff

23VorteX23
6th May 2011, 20:26
wow! so many replies in such short time. I was just interested to know if there are any other followers of his methods here. it is very interesting that he was your teacher, do you know how he became acquainted with the gurdjieff teachings? did he meet gurdjieff? I have been 'following his methods' if you will for a few years and find them incredibly useful, more and more every single day. I brought it up here because I think he should be far better known in these circles. his description of the functioning of the 'centres in man' have so many parallels with the chakras and I find more and more things which link to his ideas every day. intensely applying his methods has, in a relatively short time, given me so much it's unbelievable. beelzebub is quite a struggle, yes, but it's purpose is to elicit a 'being effort' and keep us from slumber. i advise anyone who hasn't ever looked into him to buy a book or two about him!! also, as another issue completely, is anyone involved in any groups which are collectively helping to raise consciousness in some way? because i rarely come across opportunities to really DO something about the problems we are facing!!i am really keen to go somewhere in the world to help in these difficult times in some way!!

leavesoftrees
6th May 2011, 21:37
The Gurdjieff work is an oral tradition. While reading the books is helpful, best is to find a group to learn and experience the work. There are many such groups in the UK

ulli
6th May 2011, 22:42
I was led to my first teacher, Dr. Bernard Courtnay-Mayers, by a strange set of coincidences in 1979...within less than one week of seeing the movie "Meetings with Remarkable Men" by Peter Brooks while still living in London.
Around the same time we were looking for a nanny for our son, and a short while after she started working with us (she lived in) she saw my books, and it turned out she had worked with John Bennett at Coombe Springs.
The coincidences kept on pouring in...I had lived in Warwick Gardens, West Kensington, where J. Bennet had held meetings.
The day he died was the same day I met my then husband, Dec 13th, 1974.
J. Bennett's wife was Mrs. Beaumont, I had a French girl work for me and her name was Beaumont.
She replaced an earlier assistant who had previously worked for the actor Terence Stamp, who was himself an ardent Gurdjieff follower.
Later I had a masseuse who was a Gurdjieff follower she is my best friend to this day.
When I moved to Central America I found my first Gurdjieff dance teacher. It was a dream come true.
Direct teaching line from Mme de Salzmann's Caracas school... led by Gorki, a Venezuelan architect...

The Mad spirtualist
6th May 2011, 23:05
They discuss Gurdjieff on the Cassiopaea forum quite a bit. If you haven't read the Cassiopaea transcripts I highly recommend them along with Gurdjieff material.

Forum (http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php)

Cassiopaea Transcripts (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/cassiopaeans/cassiopaeans.htm)

This also discusses Gurdjieff , Rudolf steiner and John Baines
Montalk.net (http://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans)
Thsi site is full of good stuff

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net)

MariaDine
7th May 2011, 00:40
Yes. Gurdjieff was an object of study in my early years, in my Dance/Ballet courses. Rudolf Steiner, I read for myself, connected with the Grail Legend. John Baines...I only know the egyptologist teacher ( I'm an Historian).

Namasté

The Mad spirtualist
7th May 2011, 01:20
Yes. Gurdjieff was an object of study in my early years, in my Dance/Ballet courses. Rudolf Steiner, I read for myself, connected with the Grail Legend. John Baines...I only know the egyptologist teacher ( I'm an Historian).

Namasté

John Baines is actually an alias for Dario Salas Sommer A Hermetic Master From South America. He has schools in different parts of the world. I'm taking his correspondence course. Funny I contacted John Baines the egyptologist thinking he was the author of the book.