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seko
9th May 2011, 03:40
I found this information important to bring to everyone's attention.

If bees are dying at a very fast speed, we will have a food shortage in our hometowns.
Pesticides and Insecticides are seem to be part of the problem.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/4973857/Fears-bee-colony-collapse-has-arrived

Oldyella
9th May 2011, 09:47
Certainly Chemtrails are to blame !!!!!

Christine Breese
23rd August 2011, 16:44
Einstein said that when the pollinating bees come to an end, we only have four years left.

Koyaanisqatsi
23rd August 2011, 16:47
Maybe all the radio waves for our cell phones? ELFs?

seko
23rd August 2011, 16:59
I got this from the net.


Remember WE NEED honey bees to pollenate all of the produce that we eat and the flowers that we grow or they would die! Honey bees are NOT yellow jackets or wasps. Honey bees are an integral part of our ecosystem & are greatly affected by air pollution & all of the other changes in our environment. WHETHER YOU EAT HONEY OR NOT -- WE COULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT HONEY BEES.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_do_honey_bees_live#ixzz1VsNsnNl2

Marianne
23rd August 2011, 17:48
Thanks Seko for posting this. It's one of the most pressing problems we face.

I am remembering a place in New Hampshire called Green Hope Farms, maker of wonderfully vibrant flower essences. I recall a post on Molly's blog about an essence she was making to help bring vibrational balance to the honeybees. I don't recall now what it was, and I just searched her blog archives but it doesn't go back that far. Let me look more, I may have it saved in my 'stuff' at home.

Here's the url for Green Hope Farms ... even if you are not into flower essences, it's a beautiful website to look at and read. Check out Vibrational Healing, some great stuff. And Molly's blog is a hoot, she's always up to something.

Green Hope Farms http://www.greenhopeessences.com/

Flower essences work with the body's electrical system, they really do have a physical effect.

Junebug

seko
23rd August 2011, 19:03
Thanks Seko for posting this. It's one of the most pressing problems we face.

I am remembering a place in New Hampshire called Green Hope Farms, maker of wonderfully vibrant flower essences. I recall a post on Molly's blog about an essence she was making to help bring vibrational balance to the honeybees. I don't recall now what it was, and I just searched her blog archives but it doesn't go back that far. Let me look more, I may have it saved in my 'stuff' at home.

Here's the url for Green Hope Farms ... even if you are not into flower essences, it's a beautiful website to look at and read. Check out Vibrational Healing, some great stuff. And Molly's blog is a hoot, she's always up to something.

Green Hope Farms http://www.greenhopeessences.com/

Flower essences work with the body's electrical system, they really do have a physical effect.

Junebug

I do believe that this info that you provide is very useful Junebug.

Much appreciated. Will read it all.

Beautiful place that they have in New Hampshire.

kathymarie
23rd August 2011, 20:14
I am a beekeeper...thank you for this post.....mine are fine right now....the drought is certainly affecting them both in water and nectar. I am feeding and watering them daily. I just want them to live whether or not I harvest any honey.
I got this from the net.


Remember WE NEED honey bees to pollenate all of the produce that we eat and the flowers that we grow or they would die! Honey bees are NOT yellow jackets or wasps. Honey bees are an integral part of our ecosystem & are greatly affected by air pollution & all of the other changes in our environment. WHETHER YOU EAT HONEY OR NOT -- WE COULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT HONEY BEES.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_do_honey_bees_live#ixzz1VsNsnNl2

Marianne
23rd August 2011, 20:33
I am a beekeeper...thank you for this post.....mine are fine right now....the drought is certainly affecting them both in water and nectar. I am feeding and watering them daily. I just want them to live whether or not I harvest any honey.

Kathymarie, I'm hoping and wishing good health for your bees ..... :D

kathymarie
23rd August 2011, 22:48
Thank you so much, Junebug.....oh...I feel like a kid in a candy store ( or should I say an electronics store now?)....you guys bring so much joy to my life with your comments and words of encouragement.


I am a beekeeper...thank you for this post.....mine are fine right now....the drought is certainly affecting them both in water and nectar. I am feeding and watering them daily. I just want them to live whether or not I harvest any honey.

Kathymarie, I'm hoping and wishing good health for your bees ..... :D

WhiteFeather
23rd August 2011, 22:55
Magnetosphere shifting, haarp maybe a big culprit as well.

Carmen
23rd August 2011, 22:56
Well, the bees seem to be fine round here. We acquired two hives last year and had a really bumper harvest which I think was due to the bees. Local bee keeper seems to be cogging along just fine. We are mainly not spray freaks round here though which probably accounts for bee deaths.

Marianne
23rd August 2011, 23:09
Well, the bees seem to be fine round here. We acquired two hives last year and had a really bumper harvest which I think was due to the bees. Local bee keeper seems to be cogging along just fine. We are mainly not spray freaks round here though which probably accounts for bee deaths.

Carmen, that's good... hope it continues in bumper crops and loads of buzzy bees! Bees are so sweet and gentle if you don't bother them. We have a big vitex tree that they adore when it blooms. I like to stand nearby and watch/listen to them... it can be near deafening. We don't have a hive, just the locals hanging out.

BTW, New Zealand is a place I'd love to visit someday. The photos I've seen are gorgeous.
Junebug

Lifebringer
23rd August 2011, 23:12
Animal menure with chemicals and antibiotics in soil, chemicals in crops, bees pollinate and get the germ and then they die.
Genetically modified corporate agribusiness strikes again!

Stop using pesicides and use cooking oil or powered natural lime for pests. Stop killing bees, birds, ourselves with harmful chemicals that were ourlawed years ago. Quit making "frankenfoods" and go natural. Everything is natural.

joelmags
23rd August 2011, 23:59
I have been a commercial beekeeper for more than 30 years. Colony Collapse Disorder hit 2006, wiping us out. Replenished in 2007 & 2008. Got wiped out also.

Started collecting and using rainwater. Converted my gasoline cars to lpg; diesel to biodiesel. Got a solar water heater. Buried all powerlines. Made a windmill to pump water. Got off the grid with solar panels and wind generators. Accelerated plantings of pollen & nectar sources.

In 2009, i figured there was something wrong with my bees, but there was something worse about me.

I threw out whatever i had learned after 30 years. Began from scratch.I became more loving to my bees. Asking them if i could help them with whatever they needed, whenever i intervened. i let my bees teach me.

I learned to communicate with them from my heart.

Our operation is growing back.

seko
24th August 2011, 00:06
I have been a commercial beekeeper for more than 30 years. Colony Collapse Disorder hit 2006, wiping us out. Replenished in 2007 & 2008. Got wiped out also.

Started collecting and using rainwater. Converted my gasoline cars to lpg; diesel to biodiesel. Got a solar water heater. Buried all powerlines. Made a windmill to pump water. Got off the grid with solar panels and wind generators. Accelerated plantings of pollen & nectar sources.

In 2009, i figured there was something wrong with my bees, but there was something worse about me.

I threw out whatever i had learned after 30 years. Began from scratch.I became more loving to my bees. Asking them if i could help them with whatever they needed, whenever i intervened. i let my bees teach me.

I learned to communicate with them from my heart.

Our operation is growing back.

It seems like going back to nature is the way to go.

Well done Joel mags you learned the hard way. But you got it now!

Thanks for posting your story.

seko

seko
24th August 2011, 00:11
I am a beekeeper...thank you for this post.....mine are fine right now....the drought is certainly affecting them both in water and nectar. I am feeding and watering them daily. I just want them to live whether or not I harvest any honey.
I got this from the net.


Remember WE NEED honey bees to pollenate all of the produce that we eat and the flowers that we grow or they would die! Honey bees are NOT yellow jackets or wasps. Honey bees are an integral part of our ecosystem & are greatly affected by air pollution & all of the other changes in our environment. WHETHER YOU EAT HONEY OR NOT -- WE COULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT HONEY BEES.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_do_honey_bees_live#ixzz1VsNsnNl2


My pleasure Kathymary and glad to hear that your bees are fine, lets hope you get plenty of water soon. Keep looking after them I eat a lot of honey, love it!

seko
24th August 2011, 00:17
Well, the bees seem to be fine round here. We acquired two hives last year and had a really bumper harvest which I think was due to the bees. Local bee keeper seems to be cogging along just fine. We are mainly not spray freaks round here though which probably accounts for bee deaths.

Lets keep using natural ways for gardening so that the bees keep doing their amazing work Carmen, we wouldn't make it without them.

Tane Mahuta
24th August 2011, 12:57
Thanks for the heads up Seko!

TM

mosquito
24th August 2011, 13:28
A couple of weeks ago I met a really nice, interesting man who'd been a beekeeper for years in various locations across China. He quit last year and started another job as the bees here are slowly but surely dieing off.
Seems like it's a global problem .....

Corncrake
24th August 2011, 16:20
It is so good to read some positive stories here. I am sorry to say I have noticed far far fewer bees and butterflies in the UK - at least in the parks around London this year. Last year we were being encouraged to save the bumble bee and I love these beautiful insects. However, unlike the honey bee I have seen plenty around. I have spoken to various bee keepers around London and they have assured me that they have seen no decline so I am not sure what is going on. Colin Andrews of Crop Circle fame is following the plight of the honeybee on his farm blog in Connecticut and in Wiltshire UK (http://www.colinandrews.net/FarmLog-Pg01.html) and has reported a definite decline.

BestLion
24th December 2011, 11:36
this is sad!
I wonder if the bees do die off in NZ if they can import new bees from say Russia to NZ to start a new colony?

torti
5th November 2012, 08:54
I recall reading that last year! I don't watch the news, I haven't now for a long time. But occasionally I read stuff.co.nz, to get an idea of spin they are feeding the nation.

One of the area's they mention is Canterbury, and I must agree with an earlier post regarding Chemtrails. Canterbury (Mainly Christchurch) and Nelson (the northern part of the South Island... roughly of-course) are the two most heavily dumped (as in trails) areas in the South Island of NZ. I spent the whole of 2010 traveling around the South Island in my van, WWOOFing and learning, observing and sharing. And it stunned me at how many trails I saw in those two area's. It saddens me, but in no way surprises me that the bee's are dying. I haven't heard a lot more about this in the news since, but I know the populations are still decreasing. I am in Hawkes Bay now (East Coast of The North Island) and I know two bee-keepers, both of which, have mentioned the declining bee population that is happening even here. It has not stopped, but the main stream media have decided it is no longer worth writing about. So many things need to change.

Shade
12th November 2012, 22:20
The bees in China have been dying off for years and they attribute it to pesticides. For some of the countries pear trees, they pollinate it completely by hand and have done for years now. They harvest the pollen and dry it - then reapply it. But what happens in countries where they don't have the man power that China does? New Zealand Honey is beautiful too, their clover honey is really good.
http://www.apinews.com/en/news/item/12780-china-hand-pollination

Carmen
12th November 2012, 23:15
We lost both of our hives to wasps in the autumn so will have to start again. But on a brighter note I have discovered a wild hive in a hollow tree on my property so that's a plus. My farming practice of leaving the grass longer and mob stocking will mean there is more flowering plants for bees. Hopefully this will encourage mores bees to take residence. There seems to be plenty of bumblebees.

OZ.
12th November 2012, 23:16
Sure they can, i know a beekeeper an he said that all his bees where die or sick.
I asked if he knew why , said in 30 years he lost a lot of bees but not that much in a year.

And then he claim " that's not a problem i baught 2 "Queens" last week, it came from Poland by the post" , having glucose in their box so it can feed...In fact with the cold weather we had this summer he feed at 50% all his bees with glucose (not natural :) ).

If he don't know why the bees are dying i have a clue (for the record no airport in the neighbor:

1) Walk up at 7 am this summer, clear blue sky, two hours later "breakfast time" in the garden...


http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1714/201211123.jpg

2) This one show how spraying beings can be fun, even art :frusty:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8957/201211126.jpg

Shade
13th November 2012, 01:47
I had heard that bees were dying from a virus or a fungus or something but when i looked it up, it appears that the scientists who did that 'discovering' were funded by the pesticide company! That doesn't mean they were corrupt though it just denotes a conflict of interest.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2010/10/dying-bee-colonies-linked-to-a-fungus-and-virus-in-cahoots/

eva08
13th November 2012, 06:53
After much research on bees, mostly the problem is pesticide spraying during flowering -- which should not be done, but is done anyhow. It is also due to systemic pesticide applications - pesticides that are slowly released over time, some are very toxic to bees, even months after an application. The small print of the pesticide or insecticide will reveal that.
About 8 months ago citrus spraying became mandatory in our county to eradicate citrus psyllid. The county mentioned that the chemical application was perfectly safe, but just should not be sprayed during the flowering of the citrus. Upon closer investigation another county specified the very same pesticide as the most toxic and dangerous to bees.
Of course the county's spraying schedule did not halt when the various citrus varieties were in bloom - and they all bloomed at different times, one after another. They just sprayed when it was fitting in their schedule regardless of citrus in bloom or not.

Fluoridation of drinking water or plain pollution of drinking water for the bees is also a contributing factor to colony collapse.

I believe the problem is also increased radiation and increased UV light as the atmosphere is thinned due to less oxygen production and less rain / moisture production due to de-forestation. Bees see flowers with UV seeing eyes - the center of the flower under black light will shine and guide the bee to the nectar source. Due to an increase of UV light and radiation the bees are blinded in their vision.

The moment pesticide / insecticide and systemics are not used, clean water for bees to drink provided, bees seem to increase vigor.

I also feel a contributing factor is the weakening of the bees due to genetic cloning. Many bee keepers are leaning towards using feral bees that show excellent vigor.

I also feel another contributing factor to CC is using standard commercial bee hives that are using relatively thin wood, not providing sufficient temperature insulation, as well as using a prefabed foundation for the bees to draw comb. The bees are forced to make each cell following the stamped pattern which sometimes is a cell that is slightly larger than would be built naturally without a foundation. This slightly larger cell invites the Varroa Mite to sneak into the brood and damage the growing bee. The Warre hive and other top bar hives allow bees to naturally draw their comb; the wood of those hives is also much thicker, bees seem to thrive much better; however commercial bee keepers are hard pressed to pay four times as much for a hive box that is smaller than regular commercial hive boxes.

In short - the solution for the bees CC is a reversal to natural life, organic pesticide and chemical free flowers, clean water, a re-forestation project to restore the natural balance of this planet of pants / rainforest / oxygen production and natural rain with a moisture and oxygen rich atmosphere.

We are ourselves providing distilled water to feral bees who come and visit and drink. Years ago, we provided regular tap water and saw many dead bees every day - maybe 10 - 30. After introducing distilled water we see hardly any dead bees.

seko
6th April 2013, 01:24
Bees continue to die in many parts of the world and it it due to pesticides. The neonicotinoids pesticides affected the abilities of hives to produce queen bees and affects their brains. Unfortunately money talks and the companies that sell this type of pesticides always try to tell us that there aren't sufficient or complete data to indicate that their pesticides are to blame for the decline of bees is certain areas where their pesticides are been used.

Here is the link of the article from the BBC talking about a report of the Members of the common environmental audit committee are calling for a moratorium on the use of sprays containing neonicotinoids.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22021104


"So we are calling for a moratorium on pesticides linked to bee decline to be introduced by 1 January next year."

tnkayaker
6th April 2013, 02:09
Well, the bees seem to be fine round here. We acquired two hives last year and had a really bumper harvest which I think was due to the bees. Local bee keeper seems to be cogging along just fine. We are mainly not spray freaks round here though which probably accounts for bee deaths.

Carmen, that's good... hope it continues in bumper crops and loads of buzzy bees! Bees are so sweet and gentle if you don't bother them. We have a big vitex tree that they adore when it blooms. I like to stand nearby and watch/listen to them... it can be near deafening. We don't have a hive, just the locals hanging out.

BTW, New Zealand is a place I'd love to visit someday. The photos I've seen are gorgeous.
Junebug

better hurry junebug, i hope we can re direct the vibrations somehow,,,,jesus if we loose the bees, thats about it you know,,,God Bless the bees and God Bless us all especially now.....

Tesla_WTC_Solution
6th April 2013, 02:12
Did this colony collapse stuff coincide with the advent of those huge cell phone towers?

norman
6th April 2013, 02:14
Did this colony collapse stuff coincide with the advent of those huge cell phone towers?


I certainly think so.

penn
6th April 2013, 02:44
Here is a link to a video with Jay from Night Hawk Minerals. He talks about his sucess helping the honey bees. Our very own Kimberly is doing the interview. nxCLpA3JDQQ