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A Stargate Ate My Hamster...again!
(I know this is a cheap way to get your attention, but now that you are here,
do stay a while!)
What follows is just a personal view.
If there are representatives of the 33 sitting in a cigar-smoke filled room,
what do you think they are laughing at? What do they want? What don't they want?
They want you to keep running round in excited circles.
They do not want you to realise what they are doing.
They do not want you to realise your true potential.
So what are we doing? Keeping them laughing!
I am questioning what people want from this site. It's right to gather
information, but we must do something with this information.
Look for patterns in the bigger picture. Do the patterns have a direction? Was there a change in the pattern?
Are we misreading the direction? Are we getting far too excited at trivia?
We need some collective detective work!
The public has access to this site. Do they need some sense of direction? Do they feel a good atmosphere on the site? Is it believable, or is there just speculation about hearsay?
How do we communicate with friends and neighbours? Starting a conversation about the Annunaki might not be met with enthusiastic interest. I know - I have tried it! Asking someone whether they feel uneasy about what is happening in the world might get an more open- minded response. I now approach things through talking about the effect of food and drugs on us all, and that not many people die from old age anymore. About how the cholesterol bar has been set too low, to promote “healthy food” which is slowly killing people on an industrial scale. Your body's immune system is being run down, with too much carbohydrate and not enough fat (for more info about this, check out the website SECOND OPINION by Barry Groves – and I am writing as a long-term vegetarian who is having to re-think his diet for health reasons). Then the Pharmaceutical companies step in via the doctor, to give you and your family lots of drugs, which make you even worse. Why?
OK. We all have an agenda - something we are interested in. Mine is consciousness, and the moment of so-called death.
So what to do? We can introduce others to a bigger picture. Just dropping a phrase in a conversation will sow a seed. We can do exactly what 'common purpose' is doing!
We can find ways to prepare ourselves and others physically. But there isn't much we can do against Stargates and a thousand flying saucers is there? Yes, you can carry on videoing them, but what is the good of that? People already know, at the back of their minds, about ufos! Let's move on!!!
What they do not want is someone just sitting in an armchair, wondering... “Hmmm... what about this...?!” As you sit quietly in your armchair, you might come to realise that you have some angle, some expertise, some interest, which might be useful to others,. Something that produces lateral thinking, and is perhaps a little way-out!
Here is mine - and I've hinted at it already.
Why are so many people dying from causes other than just old age? Why are they dying in pain or drugged up? The last thoughts at the moment of death are very important, for a progressive reincarnation. If one is an advanced meditator, then drugs will not have an effect on consciousness, because one has done a lot of practice.
If not, one is subject to a dull brain = dull mind = confusion. This is based on spending one's life over-reacting to things as if they are real. At death, all intellectual learning is pointless. Most of us forget everything (but there may remain a tendency).
I do a death practice every day, to prepare for the illusions in the Bardo state (after death). I use a wrathful deity, Vajrakiliya (these are not words you will normally hear!)
All you have - and all you are - is consciousness. This is beyond any sentimentality, but is loaded with limitless compassion. It has to be worked at. Stop reacting!
The cigar-smoke filled room cannot understand compassion.
If someone says they have lived for 5000 years - so have you!
We are all infinite. My guess is that they may have mechanical means (or they could be lying...!).
Your incarnations are natural, but subject to variables.
You will get wiser!
They will get …??? ...more things...?
pie'n'eal
OK. We all have an agenda - something we are interested in. Mine is consciousness, and the moment of so-called death.
:yo: Thank you so much for your wise words. - (It's my agenda as well.)
So what to do? We can introduce others to a bigger picture.
We can find ways to prepare ourselves and others physically. But there isn't much we can do against Stargates and a thousand flying saucers is there? Yes, you can carry on videoing them, but what is the good of that? People already know, at the back of their minds, about ufos! Let's move on!!!
Here is mine - and I've hinted at it already.
Why are so many people dying from causes other than just old age? Why are they dying in pain or drugged up? The last thoughts at the moment of death are very important, for a progressive reincarnation. If one is an advanced meditator, then drugs will not have an effect on consciousness, because one has done a lot of practice.
If not, one is subject to a dull brain = dull mind = confusion. This is based on spending one's life over-reacting to things as if they are real. At death, all intellectual learning is pointless. Most of us forget everything (but there may remain a tendency).
I do a death practice every day, to prepare for the illusions in the Bardo state (after death). I use a wrathful deity, Vajrakiliya (these are not words you will normally hear!)
YES! - A true spiritual meditation is 'death practice', means you learn about the astral and spiritual spheres - you experience the qualities, learn the rules and finally find out who you are.
All you have - and all you are - is consciousness. This is beyond any sentimentality, but is loaded with limitless compassion. It has to be worked at. Stop reacting!
The cigar-smoke filled room cannot understand compassion.
pie'n'eal
Wonderful!
Sepia
White Phoenix
9th May 2011, 11:35
Hello pie'n'eal,
Admittedly I'm not completely familiar with the 'Charles' material, but isn't it possible that the '33' embody more than just a malevolent force? What if there are facets to their intelligence that we fail to realise? Maybe I've read way too many comics over the years, but in many cases, the psychology behind the actions of a super-villian isn't actually to defeat the hero, but to seek someone with the intelligence to rival their own, an equal who is worthy of their efforts. A Sherlock Holmes to their Professor Moriarty.
If their amusement comes from our struggle to solve problems, like watching animals in a maze, it would become pretty boring to watch if no-one was trying to solve it, so in that sense, maybe they are secretly rooting for us to figure them out, or even exceed their expectations all together. There could be a benevolent intention behind a malevolent action.
Without more information, we can only speculate, but I believe that everything is the way it is for a reason, and that humanity, despite its ability to enter extremes of polarity, is destined to realise that its greatest gift is the ability to bring harmony and balance to the way things are. And that's why some encourage our potential, while others fear it.
Dear White Phoenix
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. All I would say is that people have enough problem with their inner conflicts without having to deal with external deception.
Someone is creating suffering in the world...and as as you say, someone else may be looking on. I'm just trying to get their attention...
There is another point of view: this world is our own creation and our individual and collective paths are to reverse the effects of ignorance.
All the best
Pie'n'eal
White Phoenix
9th May 2011, 12:13
I whole-heartedly agree. Learning, or rather understanding, is a process. In some way that I'm yet to fully understand, we created all of this, we are even creations of eachother. The way that I see things is that ultimately the external is merely a representation of the internal. It is ourselves made manifest, literally. The aspect I am unsure about is whether or not dealing with our external manifestations will actually solve the problem, or whether it is more like playing with shadows instead of the real thing. Does playing the game get us anywhere, or is it a distraction?
I whole-heartedly agree. Learning, or rather understanding, is a process. In some way that I'm yet to fully understand, we created all of this, we are even creations of eachother. The way that I see things is that ultimately the external is merely a representation of the internal. It is ourselves made manifest, literally. The aspect I am unsure about is whether or not dealing with our external manifestations will actually solve the problem, or whether it is more like playing with shadows instead of the real thing. Does playing the game get us anywhere, or is it a distraction?
Yes, reacting to an illusion makes it a double illusion! We then believe the dream to be reality. It's a gradual process of realising there are two truths, one relative the other absolute. There is the illusion and the true nature of the illusion. The illusion is something that seems to be there, you can tough it, smell it, etc. But it is impermanent, it is a product of causes and effects. It comes to pass!
We have to value what is constant. I know you know this.
There many levels of understanding. At a higher level, the moment an illusion is recognised, that recognition is ultimate. So one can use relative truth to recognise ultimate truth. Then one is free.
We spend most of our time oscillating between the two and not notice it, this mainly due to interesting distractions.
Bit by bit we can take others with us.
pie'n'eal
Mad Hatter
9th May 2011, 14:00
Mad Hatter dons his contrarian hat...
Lets just assume for a minute that I know all of this (huge ask ;) cause I really don't)...
What would you make of someone that chooses to be here solely for, as you put it
...interesting distractions. ???
I just happen to love the feel of 500hp underfoot in a car sliding sideways down a narrow track through the trees at 180kph+. To say the least it is one hell of an adrenalin rush!!
If one cannot manifest such in higher realms one is left with this particular playpen, no?
Therefore would you not have to respect those that have deliberately chosen to manifest in the lower realms to achieve these sorts of outcomes / experiences.
Thus by extension not everyone here requires or wants to be saved... and what you might perceive as apathy to this sort of subject matter is actually indicative of an alternative choice having been made...
How do you tell the difference??
cheers
Mad Hatter dons his contrarian hat...
Lets just assume for a minute that I know all of this (huge ask ;) cause I really don't)...
What would you make of someone that chooses to be here solely for, as you put it
...interesting distractions. ???
I just happen to love the feel of 500hp underfoot in a car sliding sideways down a narrow track through the trees at 180kph+. To say the least it is one hell of an adrenalin rush!!
If one cannot manifest such in higher realms one is left with this particular playpen, no?
Therefore would you not have to respect those that have deliberately chosen to manifest in the lower realms to achieve these sorts of outcomes / experiences.
Thus by extension not everyone here requires or wants to be saved... and what you might perceive as apathy to this sort of subject matter is actually indicative of an alternative choice having been made...
How do you tell the difference??
cheers
Dear Hatter,
I love your question to bits!
FUN? It's all about having fun!!!
You can have more fun than you can ever imagined.
You can do whatever you want to the max. But of course there is a, however.
What you are talking about is what makes you happy. That statement is
loaded! It is a happiness that relies on a condition, it's conditional happiness.
So to be happy your activities have to be maintained. That's fine until it is taken away from you, then you really will suffer. Because you have become too attached to your love. Then the emotions will fire up! This too can be
exciting, but your life will be constant up and downs. The result is you end up knackered with a lot of memories.
So, if there is conditional happiness, is there unconditional happiness? A happiness that does not rely on conditions....of course there is! And it has
been there all the time, we just did not notice it. Now!
Painters, singers, sports people, musicians, inventors, writers, all know about
having fun, in the zone. The trick is to let be, let it go, to be totally spontaneous. If they claim it, it just goes stale.
I used to fence. I loved it (Olympic squad a long time ago), training, competitions. It woke me up, but the thing I noticed was consciousness. When I was in the zone I was untouchable. What was really fun was meeting someone else also in the zone!!! That zone is consciousness, but not quite pure consciousness. There is still a “I” attached, meaning it's all about me!
When you get a glimpse of pure consciousness, ordinary consciousness is no longer satisfying.
Of course it is all your choice. But I'm talking about a happiness that no outside force can disturb. I make no claims to have achieved that.....yet!
That is why the two truths are important, The first instant of an emotionally flare up, is pure perception (consciousness) it is very alive and intelligent.
But that moment quickly passes unnoticed, and the emotion has taken us over.
It's a choice of being liberated or not.
All the best
pie'n'eal
"The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead"
ulli's favorite quote ...it's about those guys in their leather armchairs smoking their fat cigars.
"The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead"
ulli's favorite quote ...it's about those guys in their leather armchairs smoking their fat cigars.
I sometimes wonder if Stargates come in different sizes, to fit really tiny aliens or really really big ones!!
Carmody
9th May 2011, 16:54
The '33', if they exist as we might consider, they aren't sitting in a smoke filled room. Those would be underlings doing such things, if indeed underlings would be doing such things. Such behaviors are usually for the pretenders and "wanna be's", as we are wont to call them.
The '33', if they exist, would be of the understanding and context of this post (#21) in this thread. they would be as of that..at a minimum. meaning, totally outside of your experience and understanding. The post will explain. My point is that I'd be very surprised if they were of 'lesser' capacity and existence:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19703-Remote-Viewing&p=214415&viewfull=1#post214415
White Phoenix
9th May 2011, 16:56
You make an interesting point Mr. Hatter, and I agree it's possible that many "souls" might choose to incarnate just for the pleasure of it all. However, I can't claim to be one of them, and so it's difficult to comprehend the intention.
It seems plausible to me that an entity that has advanced to the point where the risk of accumulating karma is taken willingly in order to help others at lower levels progress, and that their time here could be filled with joyful experiences of all kinds. Also, it is plausible that the entity would choose not to progress further at this time in order to remain in a reincarnation cycle and therefore help future generations. They may even be helping just one person in a very small way... we don't all need to be Jesus!
On the other hand, I believe that all forms of consciousness has the ability to progress, meaning that the choice to stay here is indeed a choice. Therefore this entity could merely be in a perpetual cycle of endulgence and denial, addicted to the pleasures of the flesh, so to speak. Naturally this would be noticed in the higher realms, and a team dispatched to try and make the entity aware of its condition. If it wants to stay there, that's fine, it will stay there. It can't be forced to grow, but it will have to face the consequences of that choice.
The '33', if they exist as we might consider, they aren't sitting in a smoke filled room. Those would be underlings doing such things, if indeed underlings would be doing such things. Such behaviors are usually for the pretenders and "wanna be's", as we are wont to call them.
The '33', if they exist, would be of the understanding and context of this post (#21) in this thread. they would be as of that..at a minimum. meaning, totally outside of your experience and understanding. The post will explain. My point is that I'd be very surprised if they were of 'lesser' capacity and existence:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19703-Remote-Viewing&p=214415&viewfull=1#post214415
Dear Carmody,
Your article sounds very interesting, but as you say it is outside my experience.
I would like to know more. How do you use remote viewing?
pie'n'eal
"The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead"
ulli's favorite quote ...it's about those guys in their leather armchairs smoking their fat cigars.
I sometimes wonder if Stargates come in different sizes, to fit really tiny aliens or really really big ones!!
so do I and even if they think in concepts such as tiny and big,
or if that is something particular to MANkind...;)
Carmody
9th May 2011, 17:24
"The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead"
ulli's favorite quote ...it's about those guys in their leather armchairs smoking their fat cigars.
I sometimes wonder if Stargates come in different sizes, to fit really tiny aliens or really really big ones!!
Each particle of matter is literally stargate when it comes to dimensional energy transfer systems. Aggregates of their basic function is what creates a larger stargate that we can utilize in other ways.
ghostrider
9th May 2011, 18:02
people don't like being tricked, exposing the world's tricks, is the doorway. I like to start with the D.U.M.B.S our government wouldn't spend trillions and then hide it for 50 years based on a hoax. Then enter Bob Dean's presentation, the real photos/info once they see they have been duped by nasa/government they see something is coming and they are in the dark. Next enter Jordan Maxwell and David Icke, once they are off and running no one can stop them, the path, the veil, the quest is ON. A little salt, and they will get thirsty. Hard facts, the underground bases are real, they cannot deny the fact bunker cities are everywhere. Why would we need an entire city UNDERGROUND? We must free the minds of the masses from the matrix NOW, as many as we can, this is my call to ACTION. tell everyone about the bases... thats my two cents worth hope it helps someone/anyone everyone. thank God for Bill and Kerry...
Carmody
9th May 2011, 18:03
The '33', if they exist as we might consider, they aren't sitting in a smoke filled room. Those would be underlings doing such things, if indeed underlings would be doing such things. Such behaviors are usually for the pretenders and "wanna be's", as we are wont to call them.
The '33', if they exist, would be of the understanding and context of this post (#21) in this thread. they would be as of that..at a minimum. meaning, totally outside of your experience and understanding. The post will explain. My point is that I'd be very surprised if they were of 'lesser' capacity and existence:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19703-Remote-Viewing&p=214415&viewfull=1#post214415
Dear Carmody,
Your article sounds very interesting, but as you say it is outside my experience.
I would like to know more. How do you use remote viewing?
pie'n'eal
when I was in that state of mind? Same as eyesight and other such things. Simply another sensory input system. (at the same time mentally and 'conciousness' transforming) As a 'human' who is not all that evolved, I don't automatically accept it's musings as much as I put faith in my vision to tell me to put the brakes on, while in my car, in traffic. Meaning it is not all that autonomous of a function and does not have a perfect track record as does putting my brakes on (different world, basically), and it's 'views' can be more complex to interpret, due to it's multi-faceted origins.
The '33', if they exist as we might consider, they aren't sitting in a smoke filled room. Those would be underlings doing such things, if indeed underlings would be doing such things. Such behaviors are usually for the pretenders and "wanna be's", as we are wont to call them.
The '33', if they exist, would be of the understanding and context of this post (#21) in this thread. they would be as of that..at a minimum. meaning, totally outside of your experience and understanding. The post will explain. My point is that I'd be very surprised if they were of 'lesser' capacity and existence:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19703-Remote-Viewing&p=214415&viewfull=1#post214415
Dear Carmody,
Your article sounds very interesting, but as you say it is outside my experience.
I would like to know more. How do you use remote viewing?
pie'n'eal
when I was in that state of mind? Same as eyesight and other such things. Simply another sensory input system. (at the same time mentally and 'conciousness' transforming) As a 'human' who is not all that evolved, I don't automatically accept it's musings as much as I put faith in my vision to tell me to put the brakes on, while in my car, in traffic. Meaning it is not all that autonomous of a function and does not have a perfect track record as does putting my brakes on (different world, basically), and it's 'views' can be more complex to interpret, due to it's multi-faceted origins.
I still am not sure what the point of remote viewing is!
How do you filter all that stuff coming in?
pie'n'eal
Carmody
9th May 2011, 18:22
The '33', if they exist as we might consider, they aren't sitting in a smoke filled room. Those would be underlings doing such things, if indeed underlings would be doing such things. Such behaviors are usually for the pretenders and "wanna be's", as we are wont to call them.
The '33', if they exist, would be of the understanding and context of this post (#21) in this thread. they would be as of that..at a minimum. meaning, totally outside of your experience and understanding. The post will explain. My point is that I'd be very surprised if they were of 'lesser' capacity and existence:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19703-Remote-Viewing&p=214415&viewfull=1#post214415
Dear Carmody,
Your article sounds very interesting, but as you say it is outside my experience.
I would like to know more. How do you use remote viewing?
pie'n'eal
when I was in that state of mind? Same as eyesight and other such things. Simply another sensory input system. (at the same time mentally and 'conciousness' transforming) As a 'human' who is not all that evolved, I don't automatically accept it's musings as much as I put faith in my vision to tell me to put the brakes on, while in my car, in traffic. Meaning it is not all that autonomous of a function and does not have a perfect track record as does putting my brakes on (different world, basically), and it's 'views' can be more complex to interpret, due to it's multi-faceted origins.
I still am not sure what the point of remote viewing is!
How do you filter all that stuff coming in?
pie'n'eal
You learn how to filter. Same as learning how to see with your eyes and/or walk. You make a conscious effort to discern. Sooner or later the muscles you need to flex, do come on line.
The '33', if they exist as we might consider, they aren't sitting in a smoke filled room. Those would be underlings doing such things, if indeed underlings would be doing such things. Such behaviors are usually for the pretenders and "wanna be's", as we are wont to call them.
The '33', if they exist, would be of the understanding and context of this post (#21) in this thread. they would be as of that..at a minimum. meaning, totally outside of your experience and understanding. The post will explain. My point is that I'd be very surprised if they were of 'lesser' capacity and existence:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19703-Remote-Viewing&p=214415&viewfull=1#post214415
Dear Carmody,
Your article sounds very interesting, but as you say it is outside my experience.
I would like to know more. How do you use remote viewing?
pie'n'eal
when I was in that state of mind? Same as eyesight and other such things. Simply another sensory input system. (at the same time mentally and 'conciousness' transforming) As a 'human' who is not all that evolved, I don't automatically accept it's musings as much as I put faith in my vision to tell me to put the brakes on, while in my car, in traffic. Meaning it is not all that autonomous of a function and does not have a perfect track record as does putting my brakes on (different world, basically), and it's 'views' can be more complex to interpret, due to it's multi-faceted origins.
I still am not sure what the point of remote viewing is!
How do you filter all that stuff coming in?
pie'n'eal
You learn how to filter. Same as learning how to see with your eyes and/or walk. You make a conscious effort to discern. Sooner or later the muscles you need to flex, do come on line.
Dear Carmody,
I prefer a clear mind.
kind regards
pie'n'eal
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