Adm. George Hoover and the Roswell secret: the real abilities that humans have

[The One]

This topic as been spoken about so much i wont go on to much below is something that hoover said

Commander George Hoover had finally revealed what he really knew about Roswell. He explained the truth as he had learned it all those decades ago.

UFOs are not the "biggest secret" - it is the entities behind them that was of most concern
Roswell was in fact a crash event of "visitors from somewhere else" The entities were "not so much interplanetary as much as they were literally also time travelers." They are extra-temporal. The visitors are clearly "from the future." There is reason to believe that they may even be "us" from a future Earth. These "future humans" have the ability to "manipulate reality around us." The government feared the intentions and abilities of the "visitors" These visitors are able to use the power of consciousness in extraordinary ways to morph reality. We human beings are far more powerful in potential than we ever dreamed that we are. We don't yet comprehend our extraordinary future capabilities. The visitors remain at essence though "corporeal" and "physical" - and secret attempts at reverse-engineering the visitor's crash material were made Incredibly, Hoover admitted that he himself was engaged in such technology transfer as a Naval Intelligence Officer with Top Secret clearances

Hoover appears to have been fairly sparse in his comments to Birnes (just as Hoover was with his namesake son) but his insight still speaks volumes. We learn that the truth about UFOs is held in secret. Roswell really happened. The visitors manipulate time and matter, perhaps as future humans. The role that can be played by fields of consciousness upon technology -and upon reality itself- is difficult to comprehend. And there have been efforts at replication of the crash debris by the U.S. Navy. When Birnes' interview of Hoover was related to his son Hoover Jr., the son replied that he was unaware that his father had said this, but neither did he discount it

It mentions us humans are far more powerful in potential than we ever dreamed that we are. We don't yet comprehend our extraordinary future capabilities. Do we come to be like this because of gamma rays,change in dna.My personal opinion if any of this is true that we dont evolve into these entities

[Bill Ryan]

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Yes - this testimony from Admiral George Hoover is extremely important.

Here's Bill Birnes (editor of UFO Magazine) talking about him to George Noory of Coast to Coast AM:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Birnes_George_Hoover.mp3

(60 second clip - must listen)

Transcript:




GEORGE NOORY: What we don’t know about the situation at Roswell is whether these were extraterrestrial, whether they came from a hollow Earth, whether they came from another dimension. We don’t know this, right?

BILL BIRNES: We don’t. The only clue that I had was from this Naval officer – he was from the Office of Naval intelligence, ONI, called George Hoover; we’ve talked about him before – who said that he was “the Corso of the Navy,” and that the military believed, and he said he KNEW, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

[Seikou-Kishi]

The first time I heard that clip it all seemed to make so much sense. It felt that way this time as well. In more frantic moments I wonder if we'll ever get the truth.

[Bill Ryan]

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More comments on the above.

This is especially significant because it implies that we may have been looking in the wrong direction all this time, distracted by all the gee-whiz high technology that's been concealed from us.

What may be the biggest prize is human potential itself. It may be that the true biggest secret, the core of the entire intrigue, is in two parts:




1) We're being dumbed down, tricked, miseducated, and in some cases, physically suppressed and incapacitated, to ensure that we do not realize our full potential as god-like beings who can create just about anything we want to occur.

2) While we're all looking in the wrong direction, a select group of humans are being groomed and coached under military conditions, using every desperate trick in the book, to manifest exactly these abilities - and put them to use to support the insiders' dark agenda.
In my personal opinion, it's likely that this is the single most important facet of the huge deception - one which may not yet be sufficiently understood by enough activists in the alternative media.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I guess it doesn't matter whether they're aliens or fairies, whether they're transdimensional intelligences or astral entities. We have to focus on who we are and where we want to go.

[jelleng]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I wouldn't mind knowing what an ordinary person, noisily frittering away the former years can do too lol

[ArjunaArcana]

Dear Avalonians, if I may, I hardly think that these beings are us from the future, it could possible, but they look so distant so cold to us.

There is something else going on here, perhaps these visitors are inter-dimensional, inter-temporal or inter-planetary, but how about the possibility of such beings actually being frm this planet?

Not, us but another race that evolved alongside us or far older than us?

Perhaps they are us mutated unto this only the Super Consciousness knows by whom?

I remember in project camelots Jordan maxwells interview, where he talked about a mutation taking place within mankind, a mutation being forced upon us.

Now, I dont know if its true but I am willing to agree. I am also a proponent and defender of the awakening that is occuring by leaps and bounds on a world wide scale and I firmly believe,
that humanitys future is splendid becasuse everything created sooner or later grvitates towards good.

But there could be an insidous plot to either alter or destroy us.

Thanks for listening.

[Bill Ryan]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I wouldn't mind knowing what an ordinary person, noisily frittering away the former years can do too lol

It's a massively important question.

I think there are three components to the answer (which in itself needs far more of a response than this):

1) Negative gain. That means getting rid of the toxins in the body (more important than we may think) - and the accumulated debris of millions of lifetimes that we drag around with us as unfinished business of one kind or another. That includes many decisions we made ourselves - and agreements we made - to inhibit our own abilities.

To offer 1 out of 100,001 examples - as a metaphor: suppose you were a highly skilled, very safe, very fast driver. Then one day a child runs out in front of you that you failed to anticipate, and is killed.

After that, you may decide not to drive so fast ever again.

Such an incident may have occurred many lifetimes ago, on a different planet. Yet the inhibition is still there. And because the memory of the incident is lost, you have no idea why you somehow cannot drive fast any more.

That was just an illustration. Note that there are many other reasons why someone may have lost abilities or awareness. We all had things done to us in the past, as well.

2) As much accurate metaphysical information about the nature of yourself as a being, and the nature of reality and all of existence, as you can find, understand, absorb and integrate.

3) Training, focus, and positive activity to rehabilitate your abilities and (importantly) your purpose here on Planet Earth. You may be surprised at what will return to you if you take care of (1) and (2) and then allow (3) to manifest.

[Seikou-Kishi]

To offer 1 out of 100,001 examples - as a metaphor: suppose you were a highly skilled, very safe, very fast driver. Then one day a child runs out in front of you that you failed to anticipate, and is killed.

After that, you may decide not to drive so fast ever again.

It's so odd that you should mention that. I've been told just recently that I'm going to need to be driving in the near future, yet I'm irrationally fearful that if I ever get behind a wheel I'll end up killing somebody :O

[jcocks]

This is EXACTLY what "ascention" is all about.... Behind all the invoking of archangels and airy new-age gibberish, it's all about realising our full potntial as FULLY CONSCIOUS human beings..... No matter what we may think, we are not yet fully conscious. But they better look out when we become so.... and if they think they can stop this from happening, they have a NASTY surprise in store - its going to happen to everyone whether TPTB like it or not.

On that front, I think we have a major growth event coming up soon.... And it's not going to be comfortable. But it'll be neccessary. Think of it as growing pains like you had when you went through puberty :)

The problem is that the information we need to get through this doesn't exist in its' entirity - we're running blind to a large extent. And the places where we THINK we are getting the most info are where the deception is at its' worst.... But we'll get there still, it's just going to be much more of a personal journey for us all than we're neccessarily comfortable with. But, again, this is neccessary - you have to OWN your power for yourself, and this end is much better served by having to assimmilate it yourself. You can't have *everything* done for you - or else you have to ask if you really OWN your power? Or do you take it for granted, or expect others to manage it for you?

What's the good in that? We have to be able to own and properly manage the powers we are to be given OURSELVES..... Anything else is too dangerous. At the moment we give too many of these powers away.

[jelleng]

Thankyou so much, Bill. The first two points are what I have been working on for some time now, however perhaps I could put more effort into that! So, once again, thankyou Bill. Whatever comes up in the future...I will deal with it all...one day at a time...and staying centred as much as possible. I am not easily ruffled these days, maybe thats as a result of my efforts so far. In love and gratitude for your taking the time to answer my query............Jan.

PS ... and thanks to any others for added information to my query...it is all appreciated!

[toothpick]

Hello, the one, excellant thread, very important.
This guy is absolutely the Philip Corso of the navy.
Great post Bill, maybe one of the more incredible pieces of information we have got in quite awhile.
I, mean holy "super being" Batman, this is explosive information.
To me the thought that a plain old regular person, like myself, could have the power to manipulate time and space around himself. I am literally laughing out loud in happiness.
I always knew this journey of learning everything I could about our ancient human ancestors would undoughtedly lead me somewhere positive.
But to think that I could have the same gifts as the time travelers from the Roswell incident. It,s almost too much to believe. But I would sure like to believe it.
Its like I have a little voice in my head saying. You know it,s true, you know it,s true, you always wanted it to be true, and now because of just one whistle blower there is a better chance it is true.
Bill, just imagine what magnificent, glorious vibrations of light we will all be, excellant.

toothpick

[jcocks]

Bill... Am I corect in my observations that you seem to be moving somewhat from an 'informing' role to a 'teaching' role? That perhaps all this is a forerunner to the sharing of spiritual tools by either you or inelia to help us along on our spiritual reawakening into the infinite creator beings we truly are by nature?

I certainly seem to be picking up a sense that it is becoming imperative in these times that we start to at least learn the basics of reacquiring some of those skills. I feel like they will be called upon in the very near future.....

[loveandgratitude]

Bill... Am I corect in my observations that you seem to be moving somewhat from an 'informing' role to a 'teaching' role? That perhaps all this is a forerunner to the sharing of spiritual tools by either you or inelia to help us along on our spiritual reawakening into the infinite creator beings we truly are by nature?

I certainly seem to be picking up a sense that it is becoming imperative in these times that we start to at least learn the basics of reacquiring some of those skills. I feel like they will be called upon in the very near future.....

We are all teachers and we are all students.......the main thing to learn is to raise your vibration, through chanting and inner connection to spirit. If anyone wants a starting block, here goes.......chant this sound 10 minutes a day. Close your eyes when you do this and concentrate on a blue star and sing along. In one week you will notice changes to your dreams and your waking dream state (reality). I offer this with the best of intentions for those that want to learn. This is the sound of 5.000 people chanting the word HU.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpIrDJGVdO0

[NinJin]

Thanks "The One", for creating this thread & thanks to everyone that have already replied.
This resonates with me & I strongly agree with some of the replies (like Bill's) on this subject.
One of the things I've started to work on in consideration of this very subject is an attempt to concentrate & through meditation or power of thought to fully heal myself physically & possibly reverse or prolong aging as a realization.
I saw where a previous responder to this thread asked What can I do at this point, being that I'm elderly, etc...
The old adage: You're as young as you feel comes to mind & this is something that I've wanted to explore ever since the 1st time the information about Time-traveling ET's was mentioned with the Roswell incident & what our true potential actually is versus what we're taught.

Why not, it's so positive that it certainly doesn't hurt in trying & at the very least serves as a happy thought if for nothing else. :o

[TWINCANS]

The first step, that of clearing debris often seems to require conscious recognition of at least some of the more important past lives we have had, and then the release of the patterns we built up from that life's beliefs/perceptions/incidents/repressions etc etc. Often a major opportunity to recognize a past life comes from a soft, whispered suggestion - the still small voice inside, that being explored opens the whole stored pandora's box. At least that has been my experience on at least six occasions I can think of right now.

[Autumn]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I wouldn't mind knowing what an ordinary person, noisily frittering away the former years can do too lol

It's a massively important question..

I'm rude enough to just cut most of your post short, Bill, because your describtions/explainations are like taken directly from The Hermetic Code

http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf (Reading this was the first time anything made truely sense to me)

Manly P. Hall has a lot to say and he explains it understandingly. Youtube him, there are several feature lenght lectures in the Hermetic code and other to that subject relevant mystic topics. He is well worth spending time with.

[crosby]

think this ties into what dan burisch had to say regarding timeline 1 and timeline 2, the p51's and i think the others' were p42's. very interesting indeed. it adds credence to his video from project camelot in my opinion.
regards, corson

[HaveBlue]

I too believed Dan Burisch. Not any more. His behaviour and his wifes is now so strange now that I question everything I have heard from either of them.
The latest is "black Ops' in Libya. Armed with a pistol? now his wife is selling 2 of the 6 spent cartridges? This is a guy that uses a walking stick?
The Project Camelot thread at Open Minds forum has some good points to ponder regarding this.

One of the most credible men in UFOs is George Knapp. He is not a DB believer either.
Every single person Dan ever gives an interview too gets turned on. B & K included. This is most bizzare. Could it be that after being given such info people go away and ponder it and have further questions that will show him up? He may have some of the story, who knows? It only takes one bit of BS to cast doubt on everything you have ever said. You know like once a 'thief always a thief'.

Bob Lazar has cred because he said 'go and see them wednesday nights'. Simple. people did and they saw them.

Lastly the Roswell visitors were not greys. Their craft was not saucer shaped, more like the black manta 'ray' shaped machine.
Bill is quite right about it being us that needs to evolve, not our hardware technology but our minds. There are quite a few in history that have but it is not 'most'. Like the jedi in star wars. nobody believes in that old religion anymore. the ones that know it do. As it is the knowing that counts. An ounce of knowledge is worth a ton of belief (I think more myself but that's the adage)

[Bill Ryan]

Bill... Am I corect in my observations that you seem to be moving somewhat from an 'informing' role to a 'teaching' role? That perhaps all this is a forerunner to the sharing of spiritual tools by either you or inelia to help us along on our spiritual reawakening into the infinite creator beings we truly are by nature?

I certainly seem to be picking up a sense that it is becoming imperative in these times that we start to at least learn the basics of reacquiring some of those skills. I feel like they will be called upon in the very near future.....

Yes, exactly. We're overloaded with information. It's not a powerful enough response to be watching YouTube like just more TV.

We need to be informed.... but after that, we need to be inspired. We each need to do whatever we're here for. This is what's next.

[oceanz]

I think at this stage of human development we are mostly unable to tap into our data bank of knowledge of such things as time travelling. The ones with this knowledge have been told this information and probably have conducted many experiments in time travel.

I think if they have conducted time travel it would've been limited to the past and not the future as they are only learner drivers on this universe highway and would be no match to go up against time travellers of the future.

I also think they would be hijacking "vehicles" and by vehicles I mean someone elses weak or unawake or unprotected by spiritual or energy forces mind. The reason I say this is because they would not have assended to a higher conscious level but are using artificial tools to time travel and because they would be too arogant to lose their physical body.

By not losing their physical body they would be like people on a hospital table having a near death experience and separating from their physical body and watching everything happening to them from above before rejoining with their body. It would be like an anchor or lifeline whilst they experiment on time travelling.

So whilst we are waiting to reach this higher level of consciousness, I say what does it matter if we ask for help or pray to loved ones passed if we do not believe in God to protect our weak minds.

When talking about religion with a friend she mentioned that she believed if you did not pray to God it was taking you away from him and moving you in the direction of the devil. My thinking was if you have a force field of love surrounding you from loved ones then it may just be a chain that links you with higher energies that helps guard us from negative invasions.

I have to wonder why Nasa is building a telescope to see the past, are they going to be watching their new experimental reatlity show "Blast from the Past"?

[Billy]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I wouldn't mind knowing what an ordinary person, noisily frittering away the former years can do too lol

No such thing as an Ordinary Person :-) Think as yourself as Extraordinary being who has unlimited potential, Do this by expressing from a loving heart in the now moment, you're intentions for the betterment of all humanity and universal civilizations, both positive and negative. This is a good starter, Then see what wonders you create. Blessings

[Fred Steeves]

I have no doubt what so ever about what we are capable of as described earlier. Not so much from being educated about it, but simply feeling it growing inside. There's no mistaking it.


Aside from that, one thing has always bothered me in my three short years exploring this stuff. I can see the Roswell incidents being any number of things, including us from the future, why not? But, what bothers me about these ideas is the post WW 11 experimentation of advanced Nazi technology. We know they were trying out all kinds of new play toys, and surely some of them crashed.

...Pragmatic hat on here...The timing is just too coincidental here with the post war period. It's also difficult for me to accept that these two events would just happen to occur at the same time. So for the time being I'm going to stick with the more Josepk Farrell version of Nazi play toys. If anyone can atleast give a good hypothesis of how both of these versions could be correct, I'm sprouting more ears as we speak.


Cheers,
Fred S.

[Carmody]

If you understand that the underlying control structure for NASA and the other secretive military etc branches and offices ended up with a corporate 'project paperclip' overcast..over time...then it might be possible to consider that the situation was and is purposely confused. In what direction or how, is up to research and speculation.

(one of) The best way(s) to get people to stop thinking or investigating is to leave them with confusion. (another tactic and it tends to be used at the same time is: a reasonable sounding clarity that fits their particular logic path and emotional needs-the emotional need being the key point)

The human body, which can wrest control of logic function from the conscious mind, and constantly does so..that body function desires answers in the immediate in stress situations. this, so it can do it's job and keep the body safe. Confusion causes people to walk away when their desire for discernment cannot be reached as endpoints go. in the physiological sense, the fight or flight reflex is being engaged and questions MUST be answered in some fashion, so we reach for completion, no matter if things be true or not.

So... 'product placement' (faked answer with the aura of believability) are KEY components in manipulating the overall herd mentality and direction.

These are key tactics, in almost any covert operation that involves controlling or editing public opinion. Interference, conflicting information, etc.

Politics and public relations are all about manipulating these aspects that underlie the basics of the edifice we call humans, and these things (knowledge of baseline human functions) have been used as manipulation and control techniques since the dawn of time.

People ask how long has this been going on, and I say.."since the first time two males individually coveted the favor of the single female". Ie, a very damned long time.

[KosmicKat]

When talking about religion with a friend she mentioned that she believed if you did not pray to God it was taking you away from him and moving you in the direction of the devil.

Perhaps I misunderstand, but to me, this kind of thinking shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of God; the idea that one can move away from him (in any dimension) implies that he has limits. But the nature of God is limitless; as the psalmist tried to express it, if I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the depths of the sea, you (God) are even there.

The best I can do is a very clumsy way to express an unusual concept, but if we accept the premise that God is before all, and all-encompassing, whatever we identify as not God must be contained within, permitted by, and formed from the substance of God.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I think this is the entire point of the exercise. It's great to be here at a time like this.

[K626]

When talking about religion with a friend she mentioned that she believed if you did not pray to God it was taking you away from him and moving you in the direction of the devil.

Perhaps I misunderstand, but to me, this kind of thinking shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of God; the idea that one can move away from him (in any dimension) implies that he has limits. But the nature of God is limitless; as the psalmist tried to express it, if I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the depths of the sea, you (God) are even there.

The best I can do is a very clumsy way to express an unusual concept, but if we accept the premise that God is before all, and all-encompassing, whatever we identify as not God must be contained within, permitted by, and formed from the substance of God.

....and our ability to imagine god is limitless.

Peace

K

[g.k.r]

isnt de ja vu a form of time travel too, i have experienced that myself where in my sleep i am in a future event that then happens exactly to the dream, even down to thoughts at the time, had this happen to me all my life tho its not controllable i dont think, i cant choose when it happens, tho suppose i always used to think forward when i was going to sleep., i agree with bill that we are probrably being dumbed down and sedated to not be able to access this part of our minds,

[JRS]

Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. Sorry, don't know how to connect a link-Lord Sidious can you help? Hope this sheds some light.

[Bill Ryan]

Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. Sorry, don't know how to connect a link-Lord Sidious can you help? Hope this sheds some light.

Many thanks. Here's the section in question:

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/doyle_noyes.mp3

(three and a half minute clip)

The man Tom Bearden is talking about is Doyle Noyes.

From Bearden:



Every so often human beings are born who can directly engineer their physical reality (precursor engineering). This is where the legend of miracles come from. Bearden once stood 4 feet from Doyle Noyes in Kansas City, MO "while he turned the entire sky over Kansas City dark as midnight at high noon, completely with his mind (i.e., with his patterned dendrite-ending spikes linking his mind to his body)." This occurred in the middle of a longstanding drought.

Heavily armed men in as many as 20 dark colored autos began to chase Doyle trying to kill him. Doyle would point his hand and a car would flip over, another would run off the road. The people who are controlling the planet find and kill these individuals. They eventually killed Doyle Noyes.

[K626]

Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. Sorry, don't know how to connect a link-Lord Sidious can you help? Hope this sheds some light.

Many thanks. Here's the section in question:

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/doyle_noyes.mp3

(three and a half minute clip)

The man Tom Bearden is talking about is Doyle Noyes.

From Bearden:



Every so often human beings are born who can directly engineer their physical reality (precursor engineering). This is where the legend of miracles come from. Bearden once stood 4 feet from Doyle Noyes in Kansas City, MO "while he turned the entire sky over Kansas City dark as midnight at high noon, completely with his mind (i.e., with his patterned dendrite-ending spikes linking his mind to his body)." This occurred in the middle of a longstanding drought.

Heavily armed men in as many as 20 dark colored autos began to chase Doyle trying to kill him. Doyle would point his hand and a car would flip over, another would run off the road. The people who are controlling the planet find and kill these individuals. They eventually killed Doyle Noyes.


How about an army of Doyle Noyes?

K

[Hervé]

How about an army of Doyle Noyes?

K

The PTW are scared so ***tless of that very idea that they keep attempting to create a counter army of super-soldiers...

[gripreaper]

Paramahansa Yogananda spoke of these abilities in his famous book, "An Autobiography of a Yogi" which i read many years ago. Also, there is apparently the greatest living immortal soul known as Babaji, who has always lived and still lives, as an example to all of us. These are eastern examples, and there are many more.

Suffice it to say, the Powers that were do fear, more than anything, the awakening of human consciousness. As far as what that will look like, it's hard to fix a problem from the same level of consciousness which created it, and it's the perturbation of the current paradigm which signals the transition, the chaos and apparent destruction, as hallmarks.

As long as we realize, that the fluoridated water, the chemtrail air, the GMO food, the pulsating television, the mass media, the fear mongering etc. are all designed to keep us from ascension, then we can choose to forgo the fear mongering and dumbing down and have an inner contemplative focus rather than an outer survivalist focus.

That's my take anyway.

[truthseekerdan]

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.


In this reality however, many are not 'spiritually ready' to have 'divine abilities' (gifts) -- therefore spiritual abilities can not "cause chaos". There is enough chaos on this planet at this time -- that's due to the technological development that surpassed the spiritual progress, and being used in negative ways due to spiritual lacking.

Hope this helps.

Dan

[Carmody]

Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. Sorry, don't know how to connect a link-Lord Sidious can you help? Hope this sheds some light.

Many thanks. Here's the section in question:

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/doyle_noyes.mp3

(three and a half minute clip)

The man Tom Bearden is talking about is Doyle Noyes.

From Bearden:



Every so often human beings are born who can directly engineer their physical reality (precursor engineering). This is where the legend of miracles come from. Bearden once stood 4 feet from Doyle Noyes in Kansas City, MO "while he turned the entire sky over Kansas City dark as midnight at high noon, completely with his mind (i.e., with his patterned dendrite-ending spikes linking his mind to his body)." This occurred in the middle of a longstanding drought.

Heavily armed men in as many as 20 dark colored autos began to chase Doyle trying to kill him. Doyle would point his hand and a car would flip over, another would run off the road. The people who are controlling the planet find and kill these individuals. They eventually killed Doyle Noyes.


The more I understand of this world and this fabric of reality, the less I doubt stories like this. As for stories, I have my own.

IMO, the 'global village' is helping. Helping us put the 'original human' back together.

In the same way the dogs breed wild in the necropolis city cores (rio, Delhi, pick a city, now Detroit, for example--but too much winter there)..and these dogs breed back to the 'original dog', we humans are doing the same. But, it may be with cleaned up genetics. And some of those combinations can be powerful.

I personally have nine different ethnic (mostly Caucasian) genetic groups going back two generations alone. (my parents).

[Carmody]

spiked dendrites.

Electromagnetics. specifically...electrostatics. See the last post in the question of lithium thread. (posts #30 and #31)

Antenna matching.

This means that the frequency that works for this as an energetic transfer system..is going to have a harmonic with or be identical to that shape and spacing.

[Carmody]

More on Doyle

I also once stood beside a "10-sigma person" having very real and powerful psychophysical abilities, while he turned the entire sky over Kansas City dark as midnight at high noon, completely with his mind (i.e., with his patterned dendrite-ending spikes linking his mind to his body). Huge clouds also formed, with great bolts of lightning and torrential rain. This was in the center of a large zone in which no rain at all had fallen in more than 60 days; it was in the middle of a very strong drought. Foreigners in dark autos, heavily armed, were after him in ensemble. His name was Doyle Noyes, and eventually they did get him and kill him. There is a very active program, it seems, to suppress these exceedingly few 10-sigma persons (perhaps a half dozen at any one time) on planet Earth. Such a suppression program seems to have been in existence also for at least a century or more.

I spoke with a friend of mine about this sort of subject, once, around 2003. We guessed about the same number of beings.

http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/020609.htm

The first thing on that website will stop you cold.

The bit about 'the sixth process'.

An immortal critter that is infecting the ocean.

You read it right.

There is a sixth process that is presently a totally astonishing one to our leading biological scientists. There has been discovered a tiny jelly-fish-like creature about a fifth of an inch in diameter that, in the early 90s, started spreading from its Caribbean origin, into the oceans of the world. This organism does not age and die, but has eternal life unless physically killed. It "breeds" via its sexual process when sufficiently aged, then as it further ages it reverses its entire aging process and becomes young again. and then ages and goes through the breeding process again. And then reverses, and so on. This is documented in the hard biological science literature, as a tremendous mystery to our leading biological scientists.

[Jean-Luc]

An nice connexion on this topic is delivered today in an interesting article by Mike Adams called :

"Health Ranger unveils The God Within documentary, exposes the false philosophical foundations of modern science"

http://www.naturalnews.com/032359_The_God_Within_documentary.html#ixzz1M2D2sx98


This new documentary, The God Within, seeks to answer the question of why science is so destructive and dangerous. It begins by denouncing the false philosophy fronted by famed physicist Stephen Hawking, who insists that human beings are biological robots with no consciousness, no free will, no minds and no spirit.

In his own words, from his book The Grand Design:

"It is hard to imagine how free will can operate if our behavior is determined by physical law, so it seems that we are no more than biological machines and that free will is just an illusion."

(...)

"The idea that the patient even has a "spirit" or a "mind" is so alien to modern medicine that the entire conventional medical system utterly denies the existence of mind-body medicine... as if somehow the mind did not even exist."

I would personnally put some bemols when blaming "science" in one block as he does, but I agree with the core of his argument.

[Huma]

Some additional info on this doyle guy....it's not favorable....

http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/dnoyes.asc

I am as open as anyone to new science and ways of thinking, but honestly, we need to be a bit more discerning...

[oceanz]

The bit about 'the sixth process'.

An immortal critter that is infecting the ocean.

You read it right.

There is a sixth process that is presently a totally astonishing one to our leading biological scientists. There has been discovered a tiny jelly-fish-like creature about a fifth of an inch in diameter that, in the early 90s, started spreading from its Caribbean origin, into the oceans of the world. This organism does not age and die, but has eternal life unless physically killed. It "breeds" via its sexual process when sufficiently aged, then as it further ages it reverses its entire aging process and becomes young again. and then ages and goes through the breeding process again. And then reverses, and so on. This is documented in the hard biological science literature, as a tremendous mystery to our leading biological scientists.

I'd dare say the beauty industry will be keeping a tight lid on that information. Imagine all the anti-aging products etc people would stop buying.

I wonder if these tiny jelly fish have any connection with sharks that can grow new teeth. Imagine being able to do that - I would never have to go to the dentist again!

[JoshERTW]

The bit about 'the sixth process'.

An immortal critter that is infecting the ocean.

You read it right.

There is a sixth process that is presently a totally astonishing one to our leading biological scientists. There has been discovered a tiny jelly-fish-like creature about a fifth of an inch in diameter that, in the early 90s, started spreading from its Caribbean origin, into the oceans of the world. This organism does not age and die, but has eternal life unless physically killed. It "breeds" via its sexual process when sufficiently aged, then as it further ages it reverses its entire aging process and becomes young again. and then ages and goes through the breeding process again. And then reverses, and so on. This is documented in the hard biological science literature, as a tremendous mystery to our leading biological scientists.

I'd dare say the beauty industry will be keeping a tight lid on that information. Imagine all the anti-aging products etc people would stop buying.

I wonder if these tiny jelly fish have any connection with sharks that can grow new teeth. Imagine being able to do that - I would never have to go to the dentist again!

I remember hearing about those Jellyfish a while back and thinking it was pretty cool. Interesting to see that information again...

[Carmody]

Some additional info on this doyle guy....it's not favorable....

http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/dnoyes.asc

I am as open as anyone to new science and ways of thinking, but honestly, we need to be a bit more discerning...

Eyes widened as we looked at each other. Not a word was spoken. He
then walked over to the mirror and extended his right hand, touching
the surface of the mirror with fingers splayed as he closed his
eyes.

Page 2





"Close, close, close." Doyle said. He then dropped his hand, looked
at the mirror, and repeated the ritual.

"Sometimes you have to do it more than once. It's closed now, they
can't see or hear us." Doyle announced with confidence.
"Oh... good" said the man from Ohio. "Excuse me, Doyle, but why did
you need our photographs?" I said. "To make sure. You see, I
dowse them to make sure you weren't Russian agents or space aliens".
"I see. Do you get many of those?" "You would be surprised."

"Uh-huh." I said as a vision of the money which was paid in my
mind's eye slowly evaporated into the ethers. "Let's go out to
eat." Doyle said.

The gang of four and the man himself hiked over in the direction of
a fast food restaurant across the street.

"No, not there, they're expecting us there." Doyle said. We then
sauntered over to a restaurant nearby to the motel. The waitress
seated us and passed around the menus. "Hi, Doyle. How are the
aliens?" She said. "Fine." Doyle said, looking up. He then
pulled out a photograph and a white pendulum and started swinging it
over the photo. "This is how you find out if they are O.K. You can
find out if they're aliens or not too."

The conversation I had with the friend was on how difficult it was going to be to get the average person to understand these subjects.

I told my friend that I could not conceive of running into a human, any given individual human, whom could not be taken to the edge of their ability to understand reality..and then taken to a point beyond, where they would run away. And they'd still be left with incomplete understandings and also more layers of the onion to be peeled. The point is that it does definitely go past one's ability to hold and discern.

Outside of the capacity to understand and know, in your current mental and physical state. This is a given, in ANY analysis of the issue. slow and steady wins the race. One problem is that we are running out of time. A sort of end point or gauntlet has been encountered. A certain amount of 'crash course' for humanity is taking place. My statement is that the worst that could happen with the Charles material is that overall human awareness of these issues would be raised, and that is a good thing, by any measure. IF you understand the scope of the problem. In your current mental and physical level of knowledge, understanding and acceptance, you simply don't.

People would and will run away as it is outside of their ability to discern or accept. The problem being is that the reality of the whole thing goes beyond what your mind and body can and will accept.

Recall the truth of it is dimensional and multi-dimensional.

Go to the alternative science area. see the thread I just started yesterday.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20264-Bald-Faced-Solar-Panel-for-an-Unsexy-Machine

There is your dimensional energy mirror egress aspect. This is how the supposed AI that Charles describes (and now Richard Sauder describes as well) functions.

One of the last contacts I had with Charles, I was describing the day I nearly started a Tornado over my workplace of the given time. Once I realize the importance and my connection to the moment, I dissolved the formation/forming tornado.

The last time I played with my raising my Kundalini in the fashion and or level I'm used to expressing it, someone died. Right outside my house.

My analysis of the number of people on the planet had to do with me analyzing my horoscope and then comparing that energetic level to that of the rest of the people on the planet. That is the number that was bandied about. (between three to maybe a dozen people) This was later augmented to a 'programmable' or 'created number' through knowledge of the considerations....being made manipulable through science and psychology, etc. Ie, supersoldiers. manufactured, NOT natural.

They are after the NATURAL ones. They are MAKING their own versions. (edit:the 'natural' number is moving to be quite a bit higher, as people are evolving into it and alchemy, etc, all that sort of stuff. The true naturals are probably near that low number)

The abuse the PTB are heaping on their own children in youth, etc is an effort to shock, to horrify the developing mind, to create a 'simile' of sorts, a shadow of this capacity in their own children. If it skips over the edge, then they are possibly capable of doing some of these things. The attempt is to establish the channels in the mind of the youth so the vibrational pattern or polarization/frequency/harmonic channels are established in the organized edifice we call a human mind.

This goes back to the reptilians wanting to have sex with children of the age of 8 or so, but not much older. Not enough energy can come from the panic state of being screwed (literally) by a intelligent reptile. The wiring of the child is not good enough any more, it has been corrupted by the interrelations and connections created, as tied to this mundane reality -as they age.

Am I loosing you yet? Probably. the trick is to get you to the threshold of looking at the material with clear eyes tied to the science of it, without freaking you out.

That has been the heart of the problem ---since day one.

I've got 2043 posts on this forum as of this posting. Their sole aim, is to meander among the points and thresholds and issues. To grab your hand and slowly take you there. Hopefully not loosing you along the way. Depending on the given point of rolling evolution of the given individual reading the given missive----To speak sense and seeming insanity (simply truth to someone at another level or point of understanding) intermixed, so you can find the trail on your own, and then loose the fear and take up the message and the vibe on your own. To help people turn and face these issues and changes.


The problem being that the current psychology of the general populace is that they want infinity ...but their current mental state does not want what it is saying. Sorry, you can't have just select pieces of it. You get the whole package.

[gripreaper]

It's all energy, right? The matrix, the unified field, the grand sophia, whatever you want to call it. It's how you use it, husband it, store it, build it, vampire it, steal it, direct it, focus it, etc.

The powers that were will do anything to keep us from figuring out how to harness and use our own energy, and they sure know how to vamp it for their own use!

[Aurelius]

I still don't understand why tptb haven't gone after Tom Bearden ....

someone/something must be protecting him ....

I have great respect for the man, value his contribution to humanity and wish no harm comes to him or his family.

He must by now have upset a lot of people in blackops, intel, control structures etc ...

ie. all his material to do with precursor engineering, scalar weapons, weather modification, the MEG, and other zero-point related, his ties with Bedini's work etc.

i wish he would get tony to record all the information he's never told, the inside info (he has lots of it!!) and then have it released in the future when he's no longer with us anymore.



Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. Sorry, don't know how to connect a link-Lord Sidious can you help? Hope this sheds some light.

Many thanks. Here's the section in question:

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/doyle_noyes.mp3

(three and a half minute clip)

The man Tom Bearden is talking about is Doyle Noyes.

From Bearden:



Every so often human beings are born who can directly engineer their physical reality (precursor engineering). This is where the legend of miracles come from. Bearden once stood 4 feet from Doyle Noyes in Kansas City, MO "while he turned the entire sky over Kansas City dark as midnight at high noon, completely with his mind (i.e., with his patterned dendrite-ending spikes linking his mind to his body)." This occurred in the middle of a longstanding drought.

Heavily armed men in as many as 20 dark colored autos began to chase Doyle trying to kill him. Doyle would point his hand and a car would flip over, another would run off the road. The people who are controlling the planet find and kill these individuals. They eventually killed Doyle Noyes.

[Tangri]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I am very scared if a hockey game audiences suddenly realize their own potential I would not want to be same continent(or at same planet) with them.

[Carmody]

It is then understandable that their given current state of individual consciousness does not 'allow' for that controlled and conscious manifestation?

[Tangri]

It is then understandable that their given current state of individual consciousness does not 'allow' for that controlled and conscious manifestation?
.................... ............... .................... .................. ........
What "If"

[Olam]

Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I wouldn't mind knowing what an ordinary person, noisily frittering away the former years can do too lol

It's a massively important question.

I think there are three components to the answer (which in itself needs far more of a response than this):

1) Negative gain. That means getting rid of the toxins in the body (more important than we may think) - and the accumulated debris of millions of lifetimes that we drag around with us as unfinished business of one kind or another. That includes many decisions we made ourselves - and agreements we made - to inhibit our own abilities.

To offer 1 out of 100,001 examples - as a metaphor: suppose you were a highly skilled, very safe, very fast driver. Then one day a child runs out in front of you that you failed to anticipate, and is killed.

After that, you may decide not to drive so fast ever again.

Such an incident may have occurred many lifetimes ago, on a different planet. Yet the inhibition is still there. And because the memory of the incident is lost, you have no idea why you somehow cannot drive fast any more.

That was just an illustration. Note that there are many other reasons why someone may have lost abilities or awareness. We all had things done to us in the past, as well.

2) As much accurate metaphysical information about the nature of yourself as a being, and the nature of reality and all of existence, as you can find, understand, absorb and integrate.

3) Training, focus, and positive activity to rehabilitate your abilities and (importantly) your purpose here on Planet Earth. You may be surprised at what will return to you if you take care of (1) and (2) and then allow (3) to manifest.

Great info there Bill. After having done several ayahuasca sessions 2 months ago,I now know for a fact that accumulated toxins and emotions that materialize in the form of flegm really really hinder and block our powers.
There very much is a war on our counciousness right now and its present everyday in many different ways, food being the no 1 enemy.

[observer]

At the first listening to this interview, Mr. Bearden was talking well above my head. I am unfamiliar with many of the physicists he is referring to in his dissertation.


Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. [....snip]

After several reviews of the entire interview, I realized Mr. Bearden is speaking about a few things that I'm very familiar with - with regard to electrical generation, and related electric motors. When Bearden speaks of this 'frame'; all electric generators and/or motors have two basic components:

1. There is the armature, which is the part that spins. This armature creates a rotating electromagnetic field.

2. And then, there is the 'frame'. Which is the part that stands still, and in which the armature spins. The frame consists of multiple wire windings that create individual fixed electromagnetic fields.

So that when one spins a rotating electromagnetic field within a series of fixed electromagnetic fields, one creates electrical current - in the case of a generator. In the case of a motor, the electrical current causes the armature to spin.

What Bearden is speaking of is altering the frame as well as spinning the armature. This can be done in a lab using an adjustable frame. Each separate electromagnetic field in any generator and/or motor frame are always built symmetrically. When one uses a generator/motor that has been manufactured, the frame is always built to a NEMA specification. (National Electrical Manufacturing Association)

Bearden is suggesting the electromagnetic fields can be adjusted to be asymmetric (out of symmetry) in a custom built frame in a laboratory; this is when one observes all of this hyper-dimensional physics Bearden is speaking of.

In fact, Bearden goes-on to claim, one need not even rotate the armature. All one need do is align the opposing electromagnetic fields (dipole) and this resonant current flows without rotating an electromagnetic field. One need only to learn how to capture this excess power - which goes-off into space.

If my understanding is correct, this capturing process would be done somehow through the similar way a radio captures electromagnetic frequencies. This is what Tesla was doing - I'm convinced. Tesla discovered electromagnetic frequencies - not Marconi.

It all makes sense to me, because I am acutely aware that Tesla was pulling energy out of thin air way back in the 1890s. Tesla's (mystery) 'light on a stick' must have been some sort of complex frequency receiver circuit including an antenna. He was observed demonstrating the illumination of this light bulb mounded on a grounding rod on numerous occasions.

Which begs the question, what happened to all that research???

[butcherman]

left me tingling from head to toe thanks once again.

[Carmody]

At the first listening to this interview, Mr. Bearden was talking well above my head. I am unfamiliar with many of the physicists he is referring to in his dissertation.


Hello All, Tom Bearden gave a most interesting interview to the 2009 Advanced Energy Whistleblower Conference. It is available here: http://www.commutefaster.com/audio/bearden-compr.mp3 and other places. He tells of a human who had the ability to "Engineer physical reality" This info starts at about 59 minutes into the interview. The whole interview is a must listen IMHO. [....snip]

After several reviews of the entire interview, I realized Mr. Bearden is speaking about a few things that I'm very familiar with - with regard to electrical generation, and related electric motors. When Bearden speaks of this 'frame'; all electric generators and/or motors have two basic components:

1. There is the armature, which is the part that spins. This armature creates a rotating electromagnetic field.

2. And then, there is the 'frame'. Which is the part that stands still, and in which the armature spins. The frame consists of multiple wire windings that create individual fixed electromagnetic fields.

So that when one spins a rotating electromagnetic field within a series of fixed electromagnetic fields, one creates electrical current - in the case of a generator. In the case of a motor, the electrical current causes the armature to spin.

What Bearden is speaking of is altering the frame as well as spinning the armature. This can be done in a lab using an adjustable frame. Each separate electromagnetic field in any generator and/or motor frame are always built symmetrically. When one uses a generator/motor that has been manufactured, the frame is always built to a NEMA specification. (National Electrical Manufacturing Association)

Bearden is suggesting the electromagnetic fields can be adjusted to be asymmetric (out of symmetry) in a custom built frame in a laboratory; this is when one observes all of this hyper-dimensional physics Bearden is speaking of.

In fact, Bearden goes-on to claim, one need not even rotate the armature. All one need do is align the opposing electromagnetic fields (dipole) and this resonant current flows without rotating an electromagnetic field. One need only to learn how to capture this excess power - which goes-off into space.

If my understanding is correct, this capturing process would be done somehow through the similar way a radio captures electromagnetic frequencies. This is what Tesla was doing - I'm convinced. Tesla discovered electromagnetic frequencies - not Marconi.

It all makes sense to me, because I am acutely aware that Tesla was pulling energy out of thin air way back in the 1890s. Tesla's (mystery) 'light on a stick' must have been some sort of complex frequency receiver circuit including an antenna. He was observed demonstrating the illumination of this light bulb mounded on a grounding rod on numerous occasions.

Which begs the question, what happened to all that research???


See this video set:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc

In either the third or 4th piece, you will see the effect and consideration you are looking for embodied in an incredibly simple motor. A motor that should not work.

The motor was designed to leave you with a single and sole inescapable conclusion in the existence of asymmetry in aetheric vs electrical fields and systems.

You will see this motor in action.

So that the understanding that the math that Maxwell originally came up with was and is correct. Until the Lorentz symmetry and some of the works of Heaviside ..came along and removed that from the (math) record.

It will end up, hopefully, leaving one with a bad taste of conspiracy that is miles, literal miles deep, involving science, society, academia, corporations and governments.

[Carmody]

As for the power people may have. and some do have. that some have never lost or some have reclaimed.

It is indeed possible to do so, in the given life. However, it is a journey that is not without risk and effort.

I was involved in a thread from back in September, where I spoke rather exhaustively on the subject. My posting style had hangovers from being on other forums..and was a bit more aggressive than it is these days.

That thread can possibly give me grief, so I let it lie. I ended it in an interesting way...and it has held (that ending), all this time.

I'm curious if people want to take things further.For example, we have a situation on this thread where I address a few issues based on personal power that can be enacted.

The reason the aetheric issue is raised in this thread, is that the asymmetry in the aetheric vs electromagnetic fields (tied together) gives a 'gated egress point' in each bit or quanta of matter.

This is how a few copper bars with no current but high electrostatic voltage can be used to resonantly 'gate' aetheric energies.

This is the basis of Tesla's works. High voltage of the right kind and no current flow = aetheric energy flow. Same thing Willhelm Reich did with his cloud-busters.

if you look up 'electrets' and posts involving 'carmody' and 'bluestflame', you will find some dang interesting pyramids and oregone device information. However, regard the warning I gave him with the appropriate amount of respect.

In this other thread I showed what can happen when people, like Doyle (mentioned in this thread) get down to their real self and get involved in aetheric energies and the human condition-directly-together. This tends to lead straight to the whole 'super soldier' thing and Duncan, etc.

Some might say that people don't realize their own power and thus create their own fears or their own fortune. The trick is to do it at the DEEPEST layers possible.

The thread is called 'Soul Harvester'. Older members will very likely remember it.

All I ask, is:

Read the entire thing to the last post, BEFORE you decide to excitedly add anything...this... so you can see how it ended.

You too may decide that it might be best to leave it sleeping, even though you find the information highly useful or simply very entertaining.

[Carmody]

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Amazing-tales-USF-lineman-lifts-Cadillac-saves?urn=ncaaf-wp2964

Lifted 2200 pounds (approx. 1000kg) by himself. (his part of the car) The 'time/dimension influence game' as shown by Kozyrev.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Across the parking lot on that Thursday night in February, [Estenor] saw a frightening scene: a tow truck driver pinned under the rear tire of a 1990 Cadillac Seville that had lurched forward as he worked underneath it, his wife struggling in vain with two men to lift the car. […]

"I just see his legs," said Estenor, 21, a child of Haitian immigrants from Palm Beach. "The car is crushing him. He's not moving. I'm thinking, 'Oh, God, this guy is going to die.' "

"I tried to lift the car, and when I first tried, it didn't budge. I backed up. I don't know. But I felt this energy come, and I lifted it. I don't know how, but somebody pulled him from the car."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22728-Intro-to-Timelines-for-Dummy-s-101&p=250063&viewfull=1#post250063





http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfuay_2zC7HfstOat81fN7DL5zWuW5jNDHtajjLkC1q-P66kY2sQ

Chapter, uh..13... it turns out. Fancy that. pages 160 to 169. Titled "Time, a new frontier of the mind."

In there is the science connection to this existence puzzle. It also tickles my basic red-blue-violet synopsis in the lithium thread. It confirms the potential (electrical pun intended) creationist aspects of our creation of our future and timeline..and it shows my 'pre-wave' synopsis of my vision of that aspect.. to also hold a considerable amount of truth. It shows our capacity to change things and how the energy is moved around. It confirms monatomics, ie the white powder of gold, etc..in simple terms:

one excerpt:

'In a very real sense, what Dr. Kozyrev has found in these tests can be called PK. The chemical events act on the gyroscope pendulum at a distance. They move it without the use of any known force. Dr. Kozyrev would say that time density brings on this startling action at a distance. We usually think of PK not as matter affecting matter at a distance, but as mind affecting matter. Does thought have any affect on this time density?

"Yes", Dr, Kozyrev replied. "Thought density affects the reaction. When I purposely think of poetry or something emotional during the test, the equipment registers more of a change than when I think of mathematical calculations. Our thoughts may change the density of time."

Would the density of time, then, have something to do with Telepathy?

"Telepathy always depends on the density of time. Time would be thin near the sender of the thought, and denser around the receiver. We have already done tests in our lab to try and artificially change the density of time. When we can make time dense at will, we can make telepathy happen when we want it."


I think you folks will find it quite interesting.

Please understand that the human body, with emotions..IS... a "chemical event." It is also a 3D and 4D antenna wave launch and receiving system.

You literally are a chemical engine.

Kundalini can be Pulse power. Wave shaping and energetics.

Recall the US naval research into the nervous system and DNA having aspects of superconductivity and FTL.

Now add in monatomics and ley lines. Food, thoughts, emotions..fears, joys, etc.

(three pages of dense information)

Then, page 166, Something you should consider:

If an organic substance made of molecules turning to the right is used (e.g. sugar), it diminishes the "PK". In Dr. Kozyrev's view our world is a left handed system and it has a positive time flow that adds energy to our universe.


You give Them energy. Page 163:

Chemical Cause effect also shows the effect in time density. Burning sugar is often used, as organic compounds give a particularly good result. "We postulate," Dr Kozyrev says, "That time is thin around the cause and dense around the effect.

Well. That's an interesting statement. Ouch.


Out There, page 165:

It seems we might need a geography of telepathy. In latitudes where time is dense, like the far north, telepathy should flow more easily. (ouch. Antarctica?) Esp might also flow more easily where there are fewer living things. Perhaps this is why ESP is reported to flow most easily in outer space. (references given)

Recall Lynn McTaggert's ("The Field"-book) report on the US government study on the petri dish swabs from the mouths of the astronauts? And how the tissue in the dishes responded at FTL with the astronaut's overall states?

If you as an individual are more PK capable in outer space, and it's an available and viable environment..then... Who else is out there?

[Carmody]

Tom Bearden spoke about larger, spiker, more complex layering of Dendrites -when speaking about Doyle Noyes.

NOTE: Dr. Victor Grebennikov, finds a particular wing of a particular beetle that has the exact right evolved level of micro-shaping and micro spiking of the surface of said wing. This becomes a resonant gravitational mirror.

_ChsZUwqTeE

We also hear of the power of particular cavity resonance of a hexagonal 3d grid structure, reflecting heat - and more.


Connect those dots to this potential dot:

Gene mutation in autism found to cause hyperconnectivity in brain's hearing center

New research from Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL) might help explain how a gene mutation found in some autistic individuals leads to difficulties in processing auditory cues and paying spatial attention to sound.

The study has found that when a suspected autism gene called PTEN is deleted from auditory cortical neurons—the main workhorses of the brain's sound-processing center—the signals that these neurons receive from local as well as long-distance sources are strengthened beyond normal levels. These effects, the study shows, can be blocked by a drug currently in use as an immunosuppressant.

"It's long been hypothesized that autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) arise from a partial disruption of long-range connections in the brain during development," explains Professor Tony Zador, who led the study. "Our finding that PTEN-deficient neurons receive stronger inputs suggests that one way this disruption can be caused is by signal enhancement." His team's work appears in the Journal of Neuroscience on February 1.

Although ASDs could arise from mutations in any of dozens of candidate genes, a core triad of symptoms defines all cases: impaired language, impaired social interaction, and restricted and repetitive behaviors. "The challenge therefore has been to understand how this diverse set of candidate genes and the pathways they control converge to cause the common signature of ASDs," Zador says.

The auditory cortex, which plays a critical role in auditory attention and perception, forms functional connections with other sensory cortices and critical brain areas. The neural network within the auditory cortex has therefore been a target of studies aimed at understanding how alterations in neural circuits contribute to dysfunction in ASDs.

Zador's team focused for several reasons on the role of one suspected autism candidate gene, PTEN, on circuit alterations within the auditory cortex. Well known for its role as an anti-cancer gene that powers down cell growth, proliferation and survival, this gene has also been linked to ASDs by a slew of studies in humans and mice. PTEN mutations have been found in autistic individuals with extreme macroencephaly – an increase in brain volume. PTEN loss in mice has been found to boost cell size and the number of neuronal connections in the brain.


To decipher the role of PTEN on functional connectivity in the auditory cortex, Zador's group selectively disrupted the function of the PTEN gene in adult mice, only in a subset of neurons of the auditory cortex, while leaving the gene intact in neighboring neurons. The scientists then assessed the effect of the loss of PTEN on connectivity within the auditory cortex using techniques that involve stimulation by laser or flashes of blue light to trigger neuronal activity either locally or in other brain areas that send neuronal projections into the auditory cortex.

The rapid and robust increase in the strength of both long-range and local inputs observed following PTEN loss could possibly be explained by an increase that the scientists observed in the length and density of dendritic spines – the tiny, knob-like structures jutting out of a neuron that act like signal-receiving antennae.

These effects could be blocked, however, by chemically negating the effect of PTEN loss. One of the pathways regulated by the PTEN protein involves shutting down an intracellular enzyme called mTORC1, which promotes cell growth, among other things. Zador's group found that treating the PTEN-deficient mice for 10 days with the mTORC1-inhibitor rapamycin prevented an increase in dendritic spine number and signal strength.

While Zador is excited about "this finding that suggests that mTORC1 could be a good therapeutic target for some cases of PTEN-mediated brain disorders," he is also keen to further pursue his team's new evidence that cortical hyperconnectivity could be the "final pathway" by which diverse ASD genetic pathways lead to a single ASD phenotype. "Using cortical connectivity as a paradigm for assessing ASD candidate genes could provide insights into the mechanisms of the disorders and perhaps even give us clues to formulate new therapeutic strategies," he states.

More information: "PTEN regulation of local and long-range connections in mouse auditory cortex" appears in the Journal of Neuroscience on February

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-01-gene-mutation-autism-hyperconnectivity-brain.html

[Carmody]

dark matter as REPULSIVE gravity. Which is..essentially..a FREQUENCY of wave. Thus..the correct construct can shield it, or reflect it or resonate with it as it is reflecting and thus create a 'resonant reflective motor'.

The 'idea' that particle-waves could be nothing more than 2d waveforms integrating with one another to create spinning vortexes we call particles on one sense and waves in another. They seem to be getting closer to it.


Repulsive gravity as an alternative to dark energy (Part 1: In voids)

(PhysOrg.com) -- When scientists discovered in 1998 that the Universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, the possibility that dark energy could explain the observation was intriguing. But because there has been little progress in figuring out exactly what dark energy is, the idea has since become more of a problem than a solution for some scientists. One physicist, Massimo Villata of the National Institute for Astrophysics (INAF) in Pino Torinese, Italy, describes dark energy as “embarrassing,” saying that the concept is an ad hoc element to standard cosmology and is devoid of any physical meaning. Villata is one of many scientists who are looking for new explanations of the Universe’s accelerating expansion that involve some form of repulsive gravity. In this case, the repulsive gravity could stem from antimatter hiding in voids.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-repulsive-gravity-alternative-dark-energy.html

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1201.3810v1.pdf

[mountain_jim]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfuay_2zC7HfstOat81fN7DL5zWuW5jNDHtajjLkC1q-P66kY2sQ

My copy bought, read, only somewhat understood in 1973

:)

[buckminster fuller]

All this reminded me of a quote from hitler, which I can't find right now, it was along those lines : "I've seen the man from the future, and it scared me"...

[ROMANWKT]

If we are talking about manifestation of a very manipulable Matrix, I offer again in frustration part 1 and part 2 of "its all nonsense" with the understanding that its you who has the whole human potential within you and nothing outside of you. it will not be effective unless a belief is not contrary to what it is you are trying to achieve, I am stating what bill had already said, you need to remove the obstacle/s. we need mental tools to remove but most importantly not put anything in. I have stated when you read it, that it will take you all the way and more, that means what we call gifts will start to show themselves which ever is first will be the most cleansed of blocks, you have to remove blocks to your real self. Here it is again in frustration and hopefully real understanding that it will take you all the way, but you have to do it, its crucial.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32896-MANIFESTING-IN-THE-MATRIX-its-all-nonsense-part-2

regards to all as always
roman

[Carmody]

Offer what you want, Roman. The problem in singularity is that is has no place except ending as a nothing - so it never even began.

The basis is the singularity staring at the two that are in differential. Only in that state, as a beginning...is the I AM even possible.


fast forward.......


...with 7 billion manifestations we call humans, we thus have 7 billion names of god. There will generalities in agreement, yes. But nothing along the path will be singular.

[Kiforall]

Commenting on this thread because it is very important and it's the first time I've seen it.
Others may be ready to digest some of it if they haven't seen it before.

[Carmody]

--------

Yes - this testimony from Admiral George Hoover is extremely important.

Here's Bill Birnes (editor of UFO Magazine) talking about him to George Noory of Coast to Coast AM:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Birnes_George_Hoover.mp3

(60 second clip - must listen)

Transcript:




GEORGE NOORY: What we don’t know about the situation at Roswell is whether these were extraterrestrial, whether they came from a hollow Earth, whether they came from another dimension. We don’t know this, right?

BILL BIRNES: We don’t. The only clue that I had was from this Naval officer – he was from the Office of Naval intelligence, ONI, called George Hoover; we’ve talked about him before – who said that he was “the Corso of the Navy,” and that the military believed, and he said he KNEW, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.


And here's the deal:

We're not ready for it as we've had a secretive group of malicious 'service to self' people, in alliance with others, who have worked very hard to dumb humanity down, to block them, all while using humanity as a food and energy animal, in order to create their own personal breakaway civilization.

That humanity is being used and purposely retarded from it's proper path, for thousands of years, by some secret societies who have worked as slave traders, financial manipulators, monarchs and kings/queens, despots and butchers, warlords and so on. dark entities and humans involved with them.

In effect, we are damaged and also not clear right now as we have been used up and blocked, all at the same time.

Not enough people are aware of this and not enough people are working against this.

But more are becoming aware of it, and the rats are scurrying.

The point is that everything you know, everything you understand, everything you are, everything the world is, everything it exists as, is..right now..a pale and damaged off course nightmare, compared to where it should have been, IF we were not damaged so badly under the heel of something that decided to feed itself, on YOUR life and existence.

The chemicals in the food, the GMO, the twisting and changing of the DNA, the reduction and restrictions in finance and politics, the destruction of the environment, all of it to feed their desires and aims to have their breakaway civilization, and crush the remaining humanity, to make it a dumbed down animal...to shoot it in the head, so to speak, as they walk out the door, taking everything this world was supposed to be, with them and in their control. A fascist nightmare machine, that has destroyed everything in it's path and anything near it.

That is what one faction of this alliance has done. And they are working hard to cover their tracks.

[observer]

....snip
"The point is that everything you know, everything you understand, everything you are, everything the world is, everything it exists as, is..right now..a pale and damaged off course nightmare, compared to where it should have been, IF we were not damaged so badly under the heel of something that decided to feed itself, on YOUR life and existence."



Bravo !!! Carmody.

Precisely why I continue coming into this website and post comments among the thousands of pages of drivel this place has become.

[mojo]

wake-up sleepy head...;)

OYzTJyiEuSI

[Carmody]

....snip
"The point is that everything you know, everything you understand, everything you are, everything the world is, everything it exists as, is..right now..a pale and damaged off course nightmare, compared to where it should have been, IF we were not damaged so badly under the heel of something that decided to feed itself, on YOUR life and existence."



Bravo !!! Carmody.

Precisely why I continue coming into this website and post comments among the thousands of pages of drivel this place has become.

It's not that I really disagree with you (over the various subjects and time periods), but that it's a case of 7 billion different experiences of human life that cannot all handle the same method and path of finding truths. Thus the message can be hard and sharp for some, and with others, they need to sink into it slowly, so they don't break beyond their recovery points, as they flounder in their unrest, pain, loss, fear, and most of all, internal breakage and confusion. Most will feel like they are being water-boarded, for years, continually. This is what happens to many folks when they come into truth of what is and what is not.

For the vast majority it is best that they come to it slowly and of their own volition. If not, humanity could break and break very badly, in a way that is not conducive to a rising awareness for the group, that has a successful end point for the largest group.

So, IMO, the various voices crying out in the the wilderness are what is required, not just one voice. You speak yours, I speak mine. I try to vary mine and move it about, as it is again, IMO, not about addressing the one person or way, but all.

[observer]

Astonishingly intuitive, Carmody.

We all have our individual methods.

Many of our younger members see there being all the time in the universe to make a difference. While some of the older members among us, see it all as, time running-out.

[Flash]

Tom Bearden spoke about larger, spiker, more complex layering of Dendrites -when speaking about Doyle Noyes.

NOTE: Dr. Victor Grebennikov, finds a particular wing of a particular beetle that has the exact right evolved level of micro-shaping and micro spiking of the surface of said wing. This becomes a resonant gravitational mirror.

_ChsZUwqTeE

We also hear of the power of particular cavity resonance of a hexagonal 3d grid structure, reflecting heat - and more.


Connect those dots to this potential dot:

Gene mutation in autism found to cause hyperconnectivity in brain's hearing center

New research from Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL) might help explain how a gene mutation found in some autistic individuals leads to difficulties in processing auditory cues and paying spatial attention to sound.

The study has found that when a suspected autism gene called PTEN is deleted from auditory cortical neurons—the main workhorses of the brain's sound-processing center—the signals that these neurons receive from local as well as long-distance sources are strengthened beyond normal levels. These effects, the study shows, can be blocked by a drug currently in use as an immunosuppressant.

"It's long been hypothesized that autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) arise from a partial disruption of long-range connections in the brain during development," explains Professor Tony Zador, who led the study. "Our finding that PTEN-deficient neurons receive stronger inputs suggests that one way this disruption can be caused is by signal enhancement." His team's work appears in the Journal of Neuroscience on February 1.

Although ASDs could arise from mutations in any of dozens of candidate genes, a core triad of symptoms defines all cases: impaired language, impaired social interaction, and restricted and repetitive behaviors. "The challenge therefore has been to understand how this diverse set of candidate genes and the pathways they control converge to cause the common signature of ASDs," Zador says.

The auditory cortex, which plays a critical role in auditory attention and perception, forms functional connections with other sensory cortices and critical brain areas. The neural network within the auditory cortex has therefore been a target of studies aimed at understanding how alterations in neural circuits contribute to dysfunction in ASDs.

Zador's team focused for several reasons on the role of one suspected autism candidate gene, PTEN, on circuit alterations within the auditory cortex. Well known for its role as an anti-cancer gene that powers down cell growth, proliferation and survival, this gene has also been linked to ASDs by a slew of studies in humans and mice. PTEN mutations have been found in autistic individuals with extreme macroencephaly – an increase in brain volume. PTEN loss in mice has been found to boost cell size and the number of neuronal connections in the brain.


To decipher the role of PTEN on functional connectivity in the auditory cortex, Zador's group selectively disrupted the function of the PTEN gene in adult mice, only in a subset of neurons of the auditory cortex, while leaving the gene intact in neighboring neurons. The scientists then assessed the effect of the loss of PTEN on connectivity within the auditory cortex using techniques that involve stimulation by laser or flashes of blue light to trigger neuronal activity either locally or in other brain areas that send neuronal projections into the auditory cortex.

The rapid and robust increase in the strength of both long-range and local inputs observed following PTEN loss could possibly be explained by an increase that the scientists observed in the length and density of dendritic spines – the tiny, knob-like structures jutting out of a neuron that act like signal-receiving antennae.

These effects could be blocked, however, by chemically negating the effect of PTEN loss. One of the pathways regulated by the PTEN protein involves shutting down an intracellular enzyme called mTORC1, which promotes cell growth, among other things. Zador's group found that treating the PTEN-deficient mice for 10 days with the mTORC1-inhibitor rapamycin prevented an increase in dendritic spine number and signal strength.

While Zador is excited about "this finding that suggests that mTORC1 could be a good therapeutic target for some cases of PTEN-mediated brain disorders," he is also keen to further pursue his team's new evidence that cortical hyperconnectivity could be the "final pathway" by which diverse ASD genetic pathways lead to a single ASD phenotype. "Using cortical connectivity as a paradigm for assessing ASD candidate genes could provide insights into the mechanisms of the disorders and perhaps even give us clues to formulate new therapeutic strategies," he states.

More information: "PTEN regulation of local and long-range connections in mouse auditory cortex" appears in the Journal of Neuroscience on February

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-01-gene-mutation-autism-hyperconnectivity-brain.html

I am always amazed Carmody of your vast knowledge of things and the connections you make with what appears at first glance as unrelated topics. Many thanks

[Flash]

Here to add to your first video above

The insect has been found and experiments are going on

One here shows how the wings work and the impact of the wings on top of a pyramid. The ancient knowledge rediscovered. Flying off from top of pyramids maybe???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs4NBd_3wW0

[Carmody]

As for the auditory aspects, dendritic spiking, Doyle Noyes, 'indigo children', autism spectrum, Monsanto, genetic modifications of people, etc...

We can then look at this phenomena that most people undergo when coming into awareness. when coming into awareness, meditation, taking the philosopher's stone, increasing health via the consumption of ormes, etc.

we get to the phenomena of hypersensitivity in hearing, extremely high pitched tones, ultrasonic seeming tones. And then the opening of the mind as an antenna system of 3d complex nature, for ultra high frequencies,and thus, terahertz waves..and thus...the manipulation of 3d time-space.

To see, to move, to change, to alter, to become, etc.

We also return to the subject of why terahertz scanners ended up in airports, scanners that came to the world via a Donald Rumsfeld (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld) connection (previously the head of Searle..Aspartame!!... which was sold to Monsanto!) connections to the the depths of the defense industry.

Terahertz waves alter DNA, as the wavelengths are correct in sizing. And DNA being superconductive, has an ultimate sensitivity to terahertz wavelengths.

Now can people finally begin to see the entirely stinky black-ops and black-budget/experiments/'hidden technology' aspect?

What was/is the real purpose behind those terahertz scanners?

[observer]

[....snip]
What was/is the real purpose behind those terahertz scanners?

Based on the life work of Mr. Rumsfeld, I would have to say the purpose in question is of no good intent to the Mass of Humanity.

"You will know the tree by its fruit".

[Selene]

Here to add to your first video above

The insect has been found and experiments are going on

One here shows how the wings work and the impact of the wings on top of a pyramid. The ancient knowledge rediscovered. Flying off from top of pyramids maybe???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs4NBd_3wW0

The ancient Egyptians considered the beetle – which has the elantra wings shown in the Russian video – to be sacred. Most of the Egyptology sites interpret Egyptian interest in the beetle merely as a symbol of self-creation, rebirth, etc.

But perhaps there’s more to it....?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/Selenewho/elytron_zps2f01250a.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Selenewho/media/elytron_zps2f01250a.jpg.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/Selenewho/egypt_scarab_zpsb45b31aa.gif (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Selenewho/media/egypt_scarab_zpsb45b31aa.gif.html)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d200/Selenewho/scarab_zps2702dd05.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/Selenewho/media/scarab_zps2702dd05.jpg.html)

Cheers,

Selene

[Roisin]

Some of the information I've read here is the best that I've read in a long time. Those processes involved for some things are interesting too and rather than saying that there are some oddities out there that don't necessarily follow the same pattern, it's probably best just to focus on what is the usual case because that's the information that most are going to find the most useful. :)

[Kindred]

http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/dnoyes.asc

Unfortunately, at present, this link only comes up with a "404 Error"...

My hope is that the text provided was the complete item. It does look to be fairly good information.

If not, does anyone have it now? Carmody?

[Carmody]

http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/dnoyes.asc

Unfortunately, at present, this link only comes up with a "404 Error"...

My hope is that the text provided was the complete item. It does look to be fairly good information.

If not, does anyone have it now? Carmody?

I don't even remember what the link was, anymore.

[Amysenthia]

[QUOTE=jelleng;214849]Hi Bill....thankyou for this......but what can an ordinary person, quietly living out their latter years, do about realising their own potential? Where does one start? I value your opinion, and await your reply. Many thanks...Jan.

I wouldn't mind knowing what an ordinary person, noisily frittering away the former years can dThe path to this type of ability is attainable for any human but requires great practice and sacrifice. One of the few systems of teaching that is left in this civilization that a human can follow to get to this level is to study/follow "RAJA YOGA". This is what the boy Jeshua (Jesus), left his home to go and study in Persia (India). He went looking for the Magi that had come to his birth. There is much evidence that the Missing Years of Jesus were spent in India learning the techniques that make it possible to manipulate matter.



I think there are three components to the answer (which in itself needs far more of a response than this):

1) Negative gain. That means getting rid of the toxins in the body (more important than we may think) - and the accumulated debris of millions of lifetimes that we drag around with us as unfinished business of one kind or another. That includes many decisions we made ourselves - and agreements we made - to inhibit our own abilities.

To offer 1 out of 100,001 examples - as a metaphor: suppose you were a highly skilled, very safe, very fast driver. Then one day a child runs out in front of you that you failed to anticipate, and is killed.

After that, you may decide not to drive so fast ever again.

Such an incident may have occurred many lifetimes ago, on a different planet. Yet the inhibition is still there. And because the memory of the incident is lost, you have no idea why you somehow cannot drive fast any more.

That was just an illustration. Note that there are many other reasons why someone may have lost abilities or awareness. We all had things done to us in the past, as well.

2) As much accurate metaphysical information about the nature of yourself as a being, and the nature of reality and all of existence, as you can find, understand, absorb and integrate.

3) Training, focus, and positive activity to rehabilitate your abilities and (importantly) your purpose here on Planet Earth. You may be surprised at what will return to you if you take care of (1) and (2) and then allow (3) to manifest.


One path to this type of ability is "RAJA Yoga". This is what the boy named Jeshua (Jesus) left his home to find. He went looking for the Magi who had come to his birth from Persia (India). It was there that he began the practice that gave him the ability to heal, walk on water, etc.