Bin Laden - Abbottabad Residents "It's all a fake, nothing happened"

[jackovesk]

In a BBC News report, Orla Guerin interviewed dozens of people who were adamant that Bin Laden did not live in the compound, with none of them ever witnessing him or hearing rumors that he was there in the five years that Obama claimed Bin Laden was a resident in the town.

"It's all a fake, nothing happened," said a newspaper seller who has been working in the town for 50 years.

Another resident told Guerin that the man seen in the video footage of Osama allegedly flicking between television channels is in fact his neighbor, not Bin Laden.

"His name is Akhbar Han, he owns the house they said was Osama's house, I know him very well," the man stated.

After speaking to "more than 50 people in the market," Guerin found only one who believed that the man watching television was Bin Laden.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1JWpgAWKEU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078

PS - One thing that is unclear to me is Why would the BBC report the TRUTH? Maybe because most people know the Whitehouse version is a 'furphy' and their trying to scratch back at least some resemblance of journalistic integrity?

A 'furphy', also commonly spelled furfie, is Australian slang for a rumour, or an erroneous or improbable story.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Thanks for this post, Jackovesk. I find your numerous contributions interesting.

[DoubleHelix]

PS - One thing that is unclear to me is Why would the BBC report the TRUTH? .


Bizarre right? Maybe the MSM is testing the waters so to speak to see how many people will pick up on a ligitimate report that's not fabricated from absolute bullsheet.

Purpose - Data gathering of public opinion?

[fifi]

Maybe my prayers have been answered? I have been praying that MSM have the freedom and courage to report the truth. Hopefully what we imagine and hope for will manifest.

[astrid]

hmmmmmmmm

WOW.. very odd.

BUt then, maybe not.

Confusion is certainly one of their MOs.

This is certainly that, very puzzling.

Keeping us lot all scratching our heads??

Meanwhile they roll out more security, and god knows what else .......

[markoid]

So then what are we to think about the guy who apparently blogged/tweeted (live) a helicopter raid or action and a large explosion, which could have been the seals destroying the crashed chopper??
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/osama-raid-this-man-live-blogged-history-102836

[Calz]

Dr. Steve Pieczenik is on Coast to Coast right now absolutely shredding the OBL story to shreds. I believe he was on with Alex recently as well.


Psy-Ops in America

Date: 05-10-11

Host: George Noory

Guests: Dr. Steve Pieczenik

Author of psycho-political thrillers, Dr. Steve Pieczenik was trained in psychiatry at Harvard University and international relations at M.I.T. He'll discuss how Psy-ops are being used against the American People on several fronts.

Website(s):

• stevepieczenik.com

[161803398]

What happened to Akbar? No one says this.

[jackovesk]

What happened to Akbar? No one says this.

Good Question 161803398,

I did a Google Search on Akhbar Han, but as yet no futher information has come to light as to what has happened to him...

Maybe the Navy Seals killed him during the raid? Who knows?

Having said that, his relatives and friends Lifespans just decreased dramatically...

PS - It would be in Pakistani People's best interests and the world's for that matter, to come forward and Debunk this whole Charade as quickly as possible!

[crosby]

this really does lend credence to the fact that bin laden was not killed on the day that the msm says he was. in fact, who is bin laden really? do we in fact know that the man who's face that we have seen all these years is indeed that man? or is it a perhaps a pseudonym for a fictitious person? many unanswered questions that hopefully we can find the answers too.
regards, corson

[Lord Sidious]

So then what are we to think about the guy who apparently blogged/tweeted (live) a helicopter raid or action and a large explosion, which could have been the seals destroying the crashed chopper??
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/osama-raid-this-man-live-blogged-history-102836

Do we KNOW who he is?
We didn't see who was blogging this, so it could be anyone doing it, even COINTELPRO.

[Fred259]

Another Jacko masterpiece thanks for sharing..

Jacko is quietly scratching his head! He wonders why the BBC who normally report lies and propaganda might be telling the truth, by releasing this. Fair point. The BBC Orla Guerin is on the scene in Pakistan.

Then we have Dr Steve Pieczenik, who was all over Alex Jones last week. Now he is doing the alternative news circuit. This is a man who it would seem has known all the detail on 9/11 for the last ten years yet for some reason has remained a non barking dog.

I don’t trust Pieczenik. Where has he been for the last ten years? Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Norey and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

Lets try and crack this.

The BBC and others will be sending syndicated news packets across the world live from Pakistan. When this news arrives at CBS, it goes through the shredder. Katie Couric is then given the Obama line. Objective. Trick the American People(assuming the BBC are right)

Pieczenik is briefing Jones & Norey with the same story line that the BBC is reporting.
Pieczenik is briefing Jones that 9/11 was an inside job ie the US government.

We know for sure that the ptb are fighting like ferrets in a sack, so the London ptb via the BBC are reporting they didn’t get Osama while the American ptb via Obama are saying they did. (So in the boxing ring we have the London ptb V American ptb)

Whatever is going on is very serious that’s for sure.

Are the London ptb trying to overthrow the American ptb, just as they did on 9/11 or attempted to do I should say.? Is something big being set up?

Has the London ptb forced the America ptb to come clean over Osama, and are now using the BBC exposing the Americans. Is this why the live news from the BBC in Pakistan is going through the CBS shredder?

IMHO the American ptb are on the defence. The London ptb are attacking.

This is the bit you aren’t going to like. Jones & Norey are mouthpieces for the London ptb, especially Jones. When American colleagues drove to Austin Tx with documents proving that 9/11 was carried out by the London ptb, he said he was busy, and said come back next day. They did, but Jones refused to publish. Jones is protecting his London master IMHO. Arrangements were made for the Americans to fly to England, and the video interview was cut in a Milton Keynes recording studio three weeks ago...out shortly.

Pieczenik IMHO is a traitor, he works for the London ptb. Remember the London ptb were behind 9/11. Pieczenik & Jones are covering up the real criminals on 9/11(the london ptb) and managing the alternative media. Notice how Jones and Pieczenik talk about ”inside job”, here they are attacking the American ptb led by Bush Snr. Jones is relentless in his attacks on both George (snr) and Prescott Bush, isn’t he. Jones boasts that he knew about 9/11 prior to the attack because he was set up to shout false flag "inside job" to soak up the thruthers and blame the Bush family who are American ptb. Jones always attacks the US government, but really he is attacking the American ptb. Meanwhile london ptb walk away Scot free.

IMHO this is the continual attack by the London ptb attempting to destroy the American ptb. The London ptb control key sectors of the SES, who will take control when the American ptb are overcome.

IMHO.

[pharoah21]

The absolute biggest thing to consider with the whole Osama story is this.......

He was the worlds most wanted man, had a whole army behind him, has evaded capture for 10 years from the worlds most powerful armies because of all his connections.

But he just happened to be in a house alone with no taliban in the whole city to protect him? Excuse me?

[Snowbird]

Another Jacko masterpiece thanks for sharing..

Jacko is quietly scratching his head! He wonders why the BBC who normally report lies and propaganda might be telling the truth, by releasing this. Fair point. The BBC Orla Guerin is on the scene in Pakistan.

Then we have Dr Steve Pieczenik, who was all over Alex Jones last week. Now he is doing the alternative news circuit. This is a man who it would seem has known all the detail on 9/11 for the last ten years yet for some reason has remained a non barking dog.

I don’t trust Pieczenik. Where has he been for the last ten years? Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Norey and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

Lets try and crack this.

The BBC and others will be sending syndicated news packets across the world live from Pakistan. When this news arrives at CBS, it goes through the shredder. Katie Couric is then given the Obama line. Objective. Trick the American People(assuming the BBC are right)

Pieczenik is briefing Jones & Norey with the same story line that the BBC is reporting.
Pieczenik is briefing Jones that 9/11 was an inside job ie the US government.

We know for sure that the ptb are fighting like ferrets in a sack, so the London ptb via the BBC are reporting they didn’t get Osama while the American ptb via Obama are saying they did. (So in the boxing ring we have the London ptb V American ptb)

Whatever is going on is very serious that’s for sure.

Are the London ptb trying to overthrow the American ptb, just as they did on 9/11 or attempted to do I should say.? Is something big being set up?

Has the London ptb forced the America ptb to come clean over Osama, and are now using the BBC exposing the Americans. Is this why the live news from the BBC in Pakistan is going through the CBS shredder?

IMHO the American ptb are on the defence. The London ptb are attacking.

This is the bit you aren’t going to like. Jones & Norey are mouthpieces for the London ptb, especially Jones. When American colleagues drove to Austin Tx with documents proving that 9/11 was carried out by the London ptb, he said he was busy, and said come back next day. They did, but Jones refused to publish. Jones is protecting his London master IMHO. Arrangements were made for the Americans to fly to England, and the video interview was cut in a Milton Keynes recording studio three weeks ago...out shortly.

Pieczenik IMHO is a traitor, he works for the London ptb. Remember the London ptb were behind 9/11. Pieczenik & Jones are covering up the real criminals on 9/11(the london ptb) and managing the alternative media. Notice how Jones and Pieczenik talk about ”inside job”, here they are attacking the American ptb led by Bush Snr. Jones is relentless in his attacks on both George (snr) and Prescott Bush, isn’t he. Jones boasts that he knew about 9/11 prior to the attack because he was set up to shout false flag "inside job" to soak up the thruthers and blame the Bush family who are American ptb. Jones always attacks the US government, but really he is attacking the American ptb. Meanwhile london ptb walk away Scot free.

IMHO this is the continual attack by the London ptb attempting to destroy the American ptb. The London ptb control key sectors of the SES, who will take control when the American ptb are overcome.

IMHO.

Do we have a thumbs-down smiley with giant grimace? :frusty:

Fred259 doesn't believe in chemtrails either.

[Siegfried The 7]

Why does Osama watch tv long enough for a pic to come up of Obama then proceeds to mess around with the tv's menu? I guess this was supposed to show us that the video was current and that Osama was recently with us in the present?

Who in the world was holding the video camera taping him? What was the point of him taping himself watching tv?

Funny how this all happened shortly after terrorist threat system was revamped.

The crowd that gathered at the White House to celebrate sure arrived fast.

When has the military EVER left top secret tech behind just because of a FEW guys they exchanged gunfire with?

Twitter guy was extra informative in his reporting. Always saying people are saying this, people are saying that, so why are they talking to him if other people are saying everything? These people were obviously on Twitter too. If they weren't, then that would mean he's going back and forth outside getting info? Here's the part that really makes me suspicious:

"Uh oh, now I'm the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it."
"I am JUST a tweeter, awake at the time of the crash. Not many twitter users in Abbottabad, these guys are more into facebook. That's all."

Seems like he was covering all bases so wheels would not turn in our minds. And his username happens to be Really Virtual. I wonder if after a few months his account will disappear.

Things that make you go hmmmmm......

[Lord Sidious]

Another Jacko masterpiece thanks for sharing..

Jacko is quietly scratching his head! He wonders why the BBC who normally report lies and propaganda might be telling the truth, by releasing this. Fair point. The BBC Orla Guerin is on the scene in Pakistan.

Then we have Dr Steve Pieczenik, who was all over Alex Jones last week. Now he is doing the alternative news circuit. This is a man who it would seem has known all the detail on 9/11 for the last ten years yet for some reason has remained a non barking dog.

I don’t trust Pieczenik. Where has he been for the last ten years? Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Norey and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

Lets try and crack this.

The BBC and others will be sending syndicated news packets across the world live from Pakistan. When this news arrives at CBS, it goes through the shredder. Katie Couric is then given the Obama line. Objective. Trick the American People(assuming the BBC are right)

Pieczenik is briefing Jones & Norey with the same story line that the BBC is reporting.
Pieczenik is briefing Jones that 9/11 was an inside job ie the US government.

We know for sure that the ptb are fighting like ferrets in a sack, so the London ptb via the BBC are reporting they didn’t get Osama while the American ptb via Obama are saying they did. (So in the boxing ring we have the London ptb V American ptb)

Whatever is going on is very serious that’s for sure.

Are the London ptb trying to overthrow the American ptb, just as they did on 9/11 or attempted to do I should say.? Is something big being set up?

Has the London ptb forced the America ptb to come clean over Osama, and are now using the BBC exposing the Americans. Is this why the live news from the BBC in Pakistan is going through the CBS shredder?

IMHO the American ptb are on the defence. The London ptb are attacking.

This is the bit you aren’t going to like. Jones & Norey are mouthpieces for the London ptb, especially Jones. When American colleagues drove to Austin Tx with documents proving that 9/11 was carried out by the London ptb, he said he was busy, and said come back next day. They did, but Jones refused to publish. Jones is protecting his London master IMHO. Arrangements were made for the Americans to fly to England, and the video interview was cut in a Milton Keynes recording studio three weeks ago...out shortly.

Pieczenik IMHO is a traitor, he works for the London ptb. Remember the London ptb were behind 9/11. Pieczenik & Jones are covering up the real criminals on 9/11(the london ptb) and managing the alternative media. Notice how Jones and Pieczenik talk about ”inside job”, here they are attacking the American ptb led by Bush Snr. Jones is relentless in his attacks on both George (snr) and Prescott Bush, isn’t he. Jones boasts that he knew about 9/11 prior to the attack because he was set up to shout false flag "inside job" to soak up the thruthers and blame the Bush family who are American ptb. Jones always attacks the US government, but really he is attacking the American ptb. Meanwhile london ptb walk away Scot free.

IMHO this is the continual attack by the London ptb attempting to destroy the American ptb. The London ptb control key sectors of the SES, who will take control when the American ptb are overcome.

IMHO.

Do we have a thumbs-down smiley with giant grimace? :frusty:

Fred259 doesn't believe in chemtrails either.

Scepticism can be the sign of a healthy mind.

[Fred259]

IMHO.

Do we have a thumbs-down smiley with giant grimace? :frusty:

Fred259 doesn't believe in chemtrails either.

No. And I don’t believe in the monster under the bed either.

Maybe it's because I've was flying for the last thirty four years.

If I share my professional knowledge and experience with you and the forum I don’t expect to be attacked.

If you don’t agree fine, but then how would you know?

[jackovesk]

Another Jacko masterpiece thanks for sharing..

Jacko is quietly scratching his head! He wonders why the BBC who normally report lies and propaganda might be telling the truth, by releasing this. Fair point. The BBC Orla Guerin is on the scene in Pakistan.

Then we have Dr Steve Pieczenik, who was all over Alex Jones last week. Now he is doing the alternative news circuit. This is a man who it would seem has known all the detail on 9/11 for the last ten years yet for some reason has remained a non barking dog.

I don’t trust Pieczenik. Where has he been for the last ten years? Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Norey and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

Lets try and crack this.

The BBC and others will be sending syndicated news packets across the world live from Pakistan. When this news arrives at CBS, it goes through the shredder. Katie Couric is then given the Obama line. Objective. Trick the American People(assuming the BBC are right)

Pieczenik is briefing Jones & Norey with the same story line that the BBC is reporting.
Pieczenik is briefing Jones that 9/11 was an inside job ie the US government.

We know for sure that the ptb are fighting like ferrets in a sack, so the London ptb via the BBC are reporting they didn’t get Osama while the American ptb via Obama are saying they did. (So in the boxing ring we have the London ptb V American ptb)

Whatever is going on is very serious that’s for sure.

Are the London ptb trying to overthrow the American ptb, just as they did on 9/11 or attempted to do I should say.? Is something big being set up?

Has the London ptb forced the America ptb to come clean over Osama, and are now using the BBC exposing the Americans. Is this why the live news from the BBC in Pakistan is going through the CBS shredder?

IMHO the American ptb are on the defence. The London ptb are attacking.

This is the bit you aren’t going to like. Jones & Norey are mouthpieces for the London ptb, especially Jones. When American colleagues drove to Austin Tx with documents proving that 9/11 was carried out by the London ptb, he said he was busy, and said come back next day. They did, but Jones refused to publish. Jones is protecting his London master IMHO. Arrangements were made for the Americans to fly to England, and the video interview was cut in a Milton Keynes recording studio three weeks ago...out shortly.

Pieczenik IMHO is a traitor, he works for the London ptb. Remember the London ptb were behind 9/11. Pieczenik & Jones are covering up the real criminals on 9/11(the london ptb) and managing the alternative media. Notice how Jones and Pieczenik talk about ”inside job”, here they are attacking the American ptb led by Bush Snr. Jones is relentless in his attacks on both George (snr) and Prescott Bush, isn’t he. Jones boasts that he knew about 9/11 prior to the attack because he was set up to shout false flag "inside job" to soak up the thruthers and blame the Bush family who are American ptb. Jones always attacks the US government, but really he is attacking the American ptb. Meanwhile london ptb walk away Scot free.

IMHO this is the continual attack by the London ptb attempting to destroy the American ptb. The London ptb control key sectors of the SES, who will take control when the American ptb are overcome.

IMHO.

WOW Fred259, talk about opening up a 'Can of Worms'!

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=863097263355&id=caad890d2dd5cadc5821dc4ce7a524b2&url=http%3a%2f%2fgripewhine.files.wordpress.com%2f2010%2f12%2fcan-of-worms.jpg

Interesting Theories you've got going on there Fred...

Just got back online...

Something I will respond to, but I want to read them again before I share my thoughts...

[K626]

IMHO.

Do we have a thumbs-down smiley with giant grimace? :frusty:

Fred259 doesn't believe in chemtrails either.

No. And I don’t believe in the monster under the bed either.

Maybe it's because I've was flying for the last thirty four years.

If I share my professional knowledge and experience with you and the forum I don’t expect to be attacked.

If you don’t agree fine, but then how would you know?

There is no differance between the London and American PTB. Power was handed over after the second world war and London and Washington have been working hand in hand since. Note British pilots are the only ones allowed to fly U.S. stealth missions, note Cia and SIs sharing the same nodes of intelligence and agenda sifting. If you are going to offer up a new paradigm regarding the London network as against the Washington/Israel network I'd be interested to see your info.


cheers

K

[Nyce555]

Good to see the BBC is challenging what's really going on. As soon as a I heard them say "Osama bin Laden is dead" on CNN, I laughed soooo hard and thought to myself "I thought he was dead a long time ago" and "who is that poor soul who's home they just raided and killed".

[K626]

Good to see the BBC is challenging what's really going on. As soon as a I heard them say "Osama bin Laden is dead" on CNN, I laughed soooo hard and thought to myself "I thought he was dead a long time ago" and "who is that poor soul who's home they just raided and killed".

Think it might just be a glitch in the matrix.

K

[T Smith]

Another Jacko masterpiece thanks for sharing..

I don’t trust Pieczenik. Where has he been for the last ten years? Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Norey and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

IMHO.

The New York Times/Washington Post wouldn't even attempt to do a discrediting interview with Pieczenik, let alone a genuine one. Truthful reporting (on anything of consquence) is not a part of their agenda.

If people only come to terms with this one simple fact, a lot of the puzzle will fall into place....

[Calz]

Think it might just be a glitch in the matrix.



What gave it away ... the deja vu black cat ... or the woman in the red dress??? :neo:

[jackovesk]

Another Jacko masterpiece thanks for sharing..

Jacko is quietly scratching his head! He wonders why the BBC who normally report lies and propaganda might be telling the truth, by releasing this. Fair point. The BBC Orla Guerin is on the scene in Pakistan.

Then we have Dr Steve Pieczenik, who was all over Alex Jones last week. Now he is doing the alternative news circuit. This is a man who it would seem has known all the detail on 9/11 for the last ten years yet for some reason has remained a non barking dog.

I don’t trust Pieczenik. Where has he been for the last ten years? Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Norey and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

Lets try and crack this.

The BBC and others will be sending syndicated news packets across the world live from Pakistan. When this news arrives at CBS, it goes through the shredder. Katie Couric is then given the Obama line. Objective. Trick the American People(assuming the BBC are right)

Pieczenik is briefing Jones & Norey with the same story line that the BBC is reporting.
Pieczenik is briefing Jones that 9/11 was an inside job ie the US government.

We know for sure that the ptb are fighting like ferrets in a sack, so the London ptb via the BBC are reporting they didn’t get Osama while the American ptb via Obama are saying they did. (So in the boxing ring we have the London ptb V American ptb)

Whatever is going on is very serious that’s for sure.

Are the London ptb trying to overthrow the American ptb, just as they did on 9/11 or attempted to do I should say.? Is something big being set up?

Has the London ptb forced the America ptb to come clean over Osama, and are now using the BBC exposing the Americans. Is this why the live news from the BBC in Pakistan is going through the CBS shredder?

IMHO the American ptb are on the defence. The London ptb are attacking.

This is the bit you aren’t going to like. Jones & Norey are mouthpieces for the London ptb, especially Jones. When American colleagues drove to Austin Tx with documents proving that 9/11 was carried out by the London ptb, he said he was busy, and said come back next day. They did, but Jones refused to publish. Jones is protecting his London master IMHO. Arrangements were made for the Americans to fly to England, and the video interview was cut in a Milton Keynes recording studio three weeks ago...out shortly.

Pieczenik IMHO is a traitor, he works for the London ptb. Remember the London ptb were behind 9/11. Pieczenik & Jones are covering up the real criminals on 9/11(the london ptb) and managing the alternative media. Notice how Jones and Pieczenik talk about ”inside job”, here they are attacking the American ptb led by Bush Snr. Jones is relentless in his attacks on both George (snr) and Prescott Bush, isn’t he. Jones boasts that he knew about 9/11 prior to the attack because he was set up to shout false flag "inside job" to soak up the thruthers and blame the Bush family who are American ptb. Jones always attacks the US government, but really he is attacking the American ptb. Meanwhile london ptb walk away Scot free.

IMHO this is the continual attack by the London ptb attempting to destroy the American ptb. The London ptb control key sectors of the SES, who will take control when the American ptb are overcome.

IMHO.

WOW Fred259, talk about opening up a 'Can of Worms'!

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=863097263355&id=caad890d2dd5cadc5821dc4ce7a524b2&url=http%3a%2f%2fgripewhine.files.wordpress.com%2f 2010%2f12%2fcan-of-worms.jpg

Interesting Theories you've got going on there Fred...

Just got back online...

Something I will respond to, but I want to read them again before I share my thoughts...

Update: Ok here we go...

Firstly, Fred259 thanks for putting your views out there for us to ponder...


Jacko is quietly scratching his head!
Correct


I don’t trust Pieczenik. Pieczenik IMHO is a traitor! Where has he been for the last ten years?

What's that English saying? Oh thats right 'Bollocks'...sorry had to put that in...

I do Trust Pieczenick. Why?

Because unlike others in the know he had the guts to come forward in the 1st place. He has stated Truthfully IMHO that he comes forward as an American Citizen not as a former US Psyops Sole Operator and is a True Patriot and his reason for speaking out now, is he now sees the writing on the wall of the NWO PTB False Flag Agenda and has sounded OUT & WARNED the certain Groups & Individuals within the US Govt. & Military.

Pieczenik Quote: @ 13.25 mins of the clip below...

"So I Warn the Navy and in particular The Chairman and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the best he can do 'Mullen' is to resign now and the same thing goes for Panetta, Your not qualified to run the CIA nor the Military!...and I Warn the President of the United States, cease and desist this nonsensicle story and stop calling the Amercan people Conspirators and marginalising us by telling us what he wants to hear! Because the truth of the matter is the more he (Obama) says things that are absurd and contradictory, the more he is going to expose himself to people like myself and others about his own personal background, I'm not talking about his birther certificate, he knows he has a very questionable history and he's treading on very Dangerous waters when you come into a world of Psyops, into a world where guys like me and others who I work with are really professional. I don't go out in public, I don't need to have my picture taken, I don't need to have a uniform and I don't have to interviewed every 30 seconds to say how great I am"!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqSVHO-ta-k&feature=related

Paul Joseph Watson's last question to Pieczenik: How much Danger are we in of them staging another 'False Flag' within America in the next few weeks? Right @ the start of the clip below...

Pieczenik Quote:

"Well, I don't want to say their going to create a 'False Flag' or what he's done, when you Lie you continuously Lie! He will Lie in orer to maintain this Lie, he will increase what looks like the presense of Counter-Terrorist people i.e. TSA, Cops 'n' all. But in reality, the only thing that is effective in Terrorism and Counter-Terrorism over 30 years is Human Intelligence and he does'nt have that and the CIA does'nt have that because 80% of them are on contract! The ones who have it are on the Miltary usually the army and some elements of the Airforce, so I'm not worried, if they pulled another 'False Flag' where going to have another Revoltion in America and he knows that! He will understand that, the Intelligence Community will understand it! That will precipitate Violence in this Country and I Warn the Intelligence Community that's Listening Now an the Military - Do Not even think of creating another 'False Flag' because that will the beginning of the 2nd American Revolution! That will be the beginning of the American public that alloe to have Guns will really understand that this Country is Out of Control! SO NOW I AM WARNING The President of the United States whose not the Brightess Inndividual in the world, and is also not very competent in his job! That if you want get re-elected? You best get re-elected by understanding what what the office is! Its to serve the public, its not to serve your own Granduar and your own Narcisism, its to serve the American public! And by increasing the 'So-Called Security' you are creating more and more trouble! Yo've created more Trouble by our Honorable Man & Women who have gone an Fought & Died for this Nonsense so that you can get re-elected! Our Verterans coming back without any benefits becase you were not able to spply them and you can Not get re-elected on the Bodies of the American people and on their Welfare! SO I WARN YOU REPEATEDLY if you think YOU think I am just Full-Of-Air you better look at my History again in Regime Change! It will be VERY EASY to intiate a Regime Change with YOU MR. PRESIDENT everyone know this around the Intelligence Community! If you want to come forth, I will be happy to discuss it with you! But I believe the President No.! is to Cowardly & No.2 Is not too Bright an his Lying will be the UNDOING OF HIS PRESIDENCY! I have No Satisfaction in saying 9 Years Later that the American Public has been Duped Again! BUT I AM WARNING THOSE who are creating this story, incliding the Intelligence Community the '850,000 people' involved in Counter-Terrorism, BEWARE OF WHAT YOU DO! YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, the American public will hold you Accountable! There are MYSELF & OTHERS who understand exactly WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU ARE DOING! DO NOT MESS with the American public and thats MY WARNING! There will be more Deceptions, More Lies BUT if you increase your TSA, you increase your Security you will weaken the fibres of our Democracy and that will begin the 2nd American Revolution and if they don't understand that they better have a look at what happened to the Neo-Cons, Scooter Libby and many others. So you BETTER UNDERSTAND ONCE AGAIN - I HAVE NOT GIVEN YOU A FALSE THREAT! IAM THREATENING YO AGAIN on behalf of Americans! As an American DO NOT play with America's Security, Freedom & the Right to Protest! That will be THE DEMISE of your Institution and Obama YOU Can Not Keep Lying, Your Lying will undo this Presidency an will ndo the fabric of our society! So be BE CAREFUL, your Sociopothy got youto the Presidency, but will not Keep yo in the Presidency! Those are My FINAL WORDS! God Bless America!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O523gn4tJNU&feature=related

So Fred if you honestly listened to both clips and read the quotes of Pieczenik's interview with Paul Joseph Watson you cannot honestly tell me that Pieczenik is a Traitor and works for the London ptb? Surely not..?


Why does he go to Alex Jones, George Noory and the alternative media why not the Washington Post or New York Times.

Why does he go to Alex Jones? I listen to the Alex Jones show daily, I think it was 2 days prior to Pieczenik coming onto the show just days after the alleged Assassination of Osama. Jones mentioned to his listeners what he was told by Pieczenik 10 years ago about Osama's death due to kidney failure and how he' like to know what Pieczenik's views were on it now, but did'nt know how to contact him! I think (not sure who phoned who) Pieczenik heard of this and rang Alex and was on the show a couple of days later.

As for George Noory - If you wanted to get this message/warning out to as many people as possible why would'nt you use Coast to Coast Am which has the largest alternative media listening audience in the world!

As for the Washington Post or New York Times? Please tell me, your kidding right?

That will do for now I will add other info later...

[Fred259]

Indeed Jacko, it’s a good interview, for sure he talks stern stuff . The problem is why has he been quite for ten years and why is he attacking the US government.

Many many things happened on 9/11 that it’s hard to deal with on the forum. The scale and depth of deception is vast.

Yes 9/11 was an inside job, however it’s perhaps better to think of it as a “cover up job” for monstrous crimes committed by many dating back to the late 1970’s

For many years the FBI & IRS had investigated these crimes and court papers had been served. 09 October 2001 is the date the criminals were due in a New York Court room.

All the documents and evidence was contained in WTC 2, 6 and 1 along with the IRS in building 7. These criminals don’t set fire to the office they just take down the buildings. In the words of one FBI officer “ We lost the lot”

9/11 was also a failed coupé d’état, which was first hatched in the mid 1970s

The murder of 45+ women at the Willie Pickton pig farm in Vancouver Canada is key.

The attack was coordinated out of Canada a “Commonwealth country”, but NOT by the Canadian people OR government but by rogue officers and individuals within the Canadian military.

The rogue officers and individuals were themselves caught, bought, compromised blackmailed and subverted after witnessing in part the murders of the women at the Piggy Palace Society, ie the Willie Pikton Pig Farm Vancouver BC. (Essentially live snuff)


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General Maurice Baril (Rtd)


During the September 11 war games "Global Guardian" command can control of the US Air Force was under the command of Canadian General Maurice Baril, who needs to explain what happened with the us air force on 9/11.

Three F16 fighter aircraft launched from Otis AFB were routed away from NYC by rouge controllers.



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Bombardier CL-144 Command Aircraft


Col Russell Williams base commanding officer at “Royal” CAF base Trenton was snared by the Pig Farm entrapment. It’s alleged that Col Williams flew a Bombardier CL-144 command aircraft in and around the vicinity of NYC coordinating the attack.

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/20100210-mcconnellhawkins1.mp3

David Hawkins on RMN discusses the Pig Farm Cover up and the entrapment of Col Russell Williams.



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Col Russell Williams


Col Williams of course is now in prison and silenced on a separate charge of murdering two women.

Willie Pickton is also in prison and silenced on a charge of murdering forty five plus women.

If you are interested in the deep background to 9/11 here is the link. These professionally produced books explain in great details who why where and what.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12470-Misconceptions-About-911

Other information is also available if you are still interested please pm me..

[Snowbird]

IMHO.

Do we have a thumbs-down smiley with giant grimace? :frusty:

Fred259 doesn't believe in chemtrails either.

No. And I don’t believe in the monster under the bed either.

Maybe it's because I've was flying for the last thirty four years.

If I share my professional knowledge and experience with you and the forum I don’t expect to be attacked.

If you don’t agree fine, but then how would you know?

No one is questioning your experience nor does anyone expect you to believe in monsters under the bed.

And yes, I do believe that skepticism is healthy. No one is attacking you. I simply stated fact which can be backed up by multiple posts on this forum. If you can be skeptical, then I can be frustrated.

Its a free country. I retract that statement.

[DeDukshyn]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078

PS - One thing that is unclear to me is Why would the BBC report the TRUTH? Maybe because most people know the Whitehouse version is a 'furphy' and their trying to scratch back at least some resemblance of journalistic integrity?

A 'furphy', also commonly spelled furfie, is Australian slang for a rumour, or an erroneous or improbable story.

I think Atticus may be correct in that the elite may not be getting along all that well. Think of a giant chess game with really big moves; Paul makes a good point here ... http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19791-Washington-Times-report-Newly-released-Obama-birth-certificate-forensic-forgery&p=213266&viewfull=1#post213266