Newly released study shows a link between vaccines and autism. Scary stuff!

[Karma Ninja]

A new study has come out that concludes there is a definite link between vaccines and autism in children. I am not entirely familiar with this source but it is a news wire. This is scary confirmation of a long debated and controversial topic. The link found in the study shows kids whose families were compensated by the Vaccine Compensation Board also had an over 40% incidence of autism!

I hope they can narrow down the specific ingredient or vaccine they suspect caused the autism. I have a small child who is being vaccinated and this is a scary thought.

Here is the link:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/83-cases-of-autism-associated-with-childhood-vaccine-injury-compensated-in-federal-vaccine-court-121570673.html

Is this another case of ignoring the data to push forward an agenda? Are the risks so small (under 1% of kids get autism but the rate is said to be rising?) that it is still better to be vaccinated and take the risk?

MODS: This might need to moved to another area of the forum so feel free to move it you wish...

[Carmen]

Karma Ninja, you need to do your own research. There is a lot of it out there. Then you can make an informed decision. Thats the advice I give to mothers. My children were mainly vaccinated, my grandchildren, not one!!

To be scared to death of what your child might catch, if you are pushed into not vaccinating is just as bad as the fear of vaccinating, and the harm that may come from it!!

[Karma Ninja]

Hey Carmen,

I have 3 kids who have all been vaccinated and all seem fine. I am aware of the dangers and I have read into this quite a bit. There are obvious pros and unproven cons but this study has numbers which support the idea that if you are prone to a reaction you may be more vulnerable to becoming autistic. I also suggest parents make their own decisions... I will probably continue with vaccinations for my daughter. But it is a parents individual choice. As well the vaccines used in each country are different from one another so it is best to use ones own best judgement. Sorry if for some reason I gave the impression I was on a soapbox... I hope some members will find this useful.

Thanks

[karelia]

Vaccines are an effective tool for depopulation, and that is exactly what they're used for. Yes, autism, and all other autoimmune diseases can be traced back to vaccines, as can cancer, AIDS, and a whole host of other nasties. If you want your child to be healthy, don't allow vaccines. Canada does NOT have mandatory vaccination, so don't let anyone bully you into it. Do your research, and if a doctor (what do you need a doctor for anyway?) tries to push you, simply say that you are looking into it, and you will get back to him/her when you're ready. Do not, under any circumstances, enter a discussion with a sickness-management professional about this issue; they will try and scare you into vaccinating there and then, and as you can imagine, once your child or yourself have an adverse reaction, it'll be too late, and you'll be all alone, because then, no professional will side with you. Google Andrew Wakefield. Set aside the fact that he's been demonised by the medical establishment. Andy was, from day 1, after the truth, and nothing but the truth. His research is genuine, and there are others who have found very similar results as he did. There is a yahoogroup called vaccinations. Join that; they're also truth seekers, and the mod is an ex-nurse-turned-homeopath and extremely knowledgeable. She's done her homework for about 20 years or so. Also, check out vaccinationnews.com as well as vaclib.org. Both provide articles, research, and plenty of information so you can make an informed decision whether or not to vaccinate. The entire pharma biz is one of the nastiest, but within it, vaccines are the icing. Just look at the ingredients. If a non-medico were to inject someone with a cocktail that poisonous, they would instantly be done in for attempted murder.

[DianeKJ]

I believe there is a definite link, but I also believe there are other factors that play into it and help it along, such as flouridation, preservatives... I could go on and on but you get my drift.

I'm still amazed by the amount of people that assume they have to get their kids vaccinated or they wont be allowed into school etc.. so much fear mongering on this subject, I can see how difficult it must be for a new mom or dad trying to figure out all the answers. It's a huge rabbit hole to fall into.

The same doctors that demand you wait to let your toddler try peanut butter because of possible peanut allergies are injecting a host of nasties right into their little bodies. Sometimes multiple jabs at one visit. The ingredient list alone on vaccines are very scary, let alone the body's reaction.

This is a hot button topic for me, really gets me angry and frustrated.

[Flash]

i am not surprised, parents know that forever. The scandal is that hundreds of thousands of parents worldwide has been saying this and were never taken into account by guess who: big pharma and governments. Doctors have been brainwashed saying vaccines had no effect. And parents kind of believe it without really believing - they are questionning, but the doctor said it was not dangerous.

I saw a lots of children, some dating back 35 years ago, that were diagnosed with austism after vaccination, mostly the 18 months old vaccination agains measle.

[kersley]

My 15 year old son has autism because of this new MMR vaccine. Proving it is another story. My 4 other younger kids didn't have the vaccine. non of them have autism.
Do your research and make up your own mind. Its not an easy decision to make.
With love K

[DianeKJ]

My 15 year old son has autism because of this new MMR vaccine. Proving it is another story. My 4 other younger kids didn't have the vaccine. non of them have autism.
Do your research and make up your own mind. Its not an easy decision to make.
With love K

Thank you for sharing with us. My nephew, now 14 had a similar reaction to his mmr shot. One of the more obvious signs of his autism happened almost immediately after his jab. He actually started regressing in speech. My sister has video of this, and she is convinced that the mmr shot was the cause. In his case I totally agree with her, it's was pretty obvious with him. Again, proving it is impossible. :(

[Steven]

I have decided not to use vaccin anymore for me and my two young boys. My wife never has been vaccinated and she is never sick.

Not only because they are not totally safe (autism and alzeimher), not only because they often contain well known poison (formaldehyde and mercury), not only because some are not efficient or even can increase the propagation of a new disease (flu vaccination), not even because they profit largely to the big pharma industry (it is becoming the most profitable product in pharma industry), not only because our government borrowed the money to buy the shots (H1N1 already had cost 1.5 billions for a small population like Canada and the campain was not even finished), not even for all these reasons compiled but because I hate needles! :)

Namaste, Steven

[kersley]

My 15 year old son has autism because of this new MMR vaccine. Proving it is another story. My 4 other younger kids didn't have the vaccine. non of them have autism.
Do your research and make up your own mind. Its not an easy decision to make.
With love K

Thank you for sharing with us. My nephew, now 14 had a similar reaction to his mmr shot. One of the more obvious signs of his autism happened almost immediately after his jab. He actually started regressing in speech. My sister has video of this, and she is convinced that the mmr shot was the cause. In his case I totally agree with her, it's was pretty obvious with him. Again, proving it is impossible. :(

You are spot on Jayden (My 15 year old Son) Immediately after the shot we notice the change in Him. He stoped responding and interacting with us. He's never been the same ever since.

[Karma Ninja]

Thanks to all who have shared their experiences on this thread. It adds fuel to the fire. I always assumed that vaccines were meant only to do good initially and since then corporate greed and government meddling have given them a different purpose. It would appear as though the majority of people given a vaccine do not suffer obvious adverse effects but there is a knowledge of the potential harm they might cause. I assume that information is being swept under the rug in order to avoid lawsuits and public outcry. I wonder if there is correlation between the ingredients (mercury, thermasol etc..) contained in the vaccines and whether one specific type has a higher incidence of causing autism. Holding out for honesty from our corporations and governments (is there a difference?) is a pipe dream so knowledge is the key!

[ThePythonicCow]

MODS: This might need to moved to another area of the forum so feel free to move it you wish...
I moved this to the "Alternative Medicine & Sciences" forum, but left a link behind in the General forum, so people can find it in either place.

Some of the Autism threads are in one of these forums, some in the other.

[TWINCANS]

My 15 year old son has autism because of this new MMR vaccine. Proving it is another story. My 4 other younger kids didn't have the vaccine. non of them have autism.
Do your research and make up your own mind. Its not an easy decision to make.
With love K

Thank you for sharing with us. My nephew, now 14 had a similar reaction to his mmr shot. One of the more obvious signs of his autism happened almost immediately after his jab. He actually started regressing in speech. My sister has video of this, and she is convinced that the mmr shot was the cause. In his case I totally agree with her, it's was pretty obvious with him. Again, proving it is impossible. :(

You are spot on Jayden (My 15 year old Son) Immediately after the shot we notice the change in Him. He stoped responding and interacting with us. He's never been the same ever since.


OMG! My heart goes out to all of you. What unbearable tragedy. Those scumbags

I moved countries when my daughter was young and kept telling the doctors 'no, she's had the shots back in (other country)' and they left us alone. Then back in Canada I got the form that says we choose not to vaccinate, in case we decided to put her in the institutionalized approach to childhood called school. (Didn't need the form- we homeschool)

High five to Steven for his decision to forgo the pleasure of shots:high5:.

[Marin]

A new study has come out that concludes there is a definite link between vaccines and autism in children. I am not entirely familiar with this source but it is a news wire.

I want to thank Karma Ninja for posting this thread. In an attempt to better understand what this study intended to address, I'd like to highlight a few items. The study, entitled Unanswered Questions from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program: A review of Compensated cases of Vaccine-Induced Brain Injury was published in the peer reviewed journal, Pace Environmental Law Review. It investigated approximately 1300 cases of childhood brain injury as a result of vaccines. Here's a little history taken from the initial press release:

"For over 20 years, the federal government has publicly denied a vaccine-autism link, while at the same time its Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has been awarding damages for vaccine injury to children with brain damage, seizures and autism. This new investigation, based on verifiable government data, breaks ground in the controversial vaccine-autism debate. The investigation found that a substantial number of children compensated for vaccine injury also have autism and that such cases have existed since 1989, the year after the VICP was formed."

As stated by Mary Holland (author of the study) at the press conference on May 10, 2011, "The debate over the last 20 years - whether or not there is an association between vaccine injury and autism - we believe these cases provide a meaningful connection and we need to look at it further. We need to:

1. Ask congress to hold hearings and look at the vaccine injury compensation program and to help us to figure out how this association could be hidden in plain sight.
2. Is this program (VICP) fulfilling the job that congress set for it.
3. Call on congress to commission an independent medical inquiry into all the cases of compensated vaccine injury so we can better understand the totality of consequences of vaccine injury.

The Pace Environmental Law review study was not about the decision to vaccinate or not. It's about vaccine injury compensation and whether or not that process has been fair and whether it's been transparent.

SafeMinds (a non-profit organization) posted this press release. The Executive Director, Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN comments, "This study dramatically shifts the debate on autism and vaccines. The question is no longer, Can vaccines cause autism? The answer is clear. Now, we have to ask, How many cases of autism have vaccines caused and how do we prevent new injuries from occurring?" If a portion of autism cases are vaccine-induced and there is evidence that officials have been "looking the other way," this cannot be tolerated. The VICP's recent attempt to dismiss the over 5000 cases in the Omnibus Autism Proceedings is suspect in light of these new findings based on its own records.

SafeMinds calls on Congress to fully investigate the VICP, the only forum in which parents may bring claims of vaccine injury on behalf of their children.

.....I couldn't agree more.

[onawah]

I have no doubts anymore that Big Pharma is completely corrupt. This story is just one indicator, and deserves to go viral

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JiPzYJZdN4
This story is almost unbelievable, but if you know anything about how widespread child trafficking is, how corrupt Child Protection Services is, and how corrupt Big Pharma is, you will understand it's probably all too true. I hope thiis kind of thing isn't happening elsewhere, but it appears to be very widespread in the US. The link to Big Pharma would seem to indicate it's not just in the US.
CPS involved in child trafficking? Maryanne Godboldo speaks out on the state-sponsored kidnapping of her daughter, who had strong negative reactions to a vaccine. She was prescribed a medication, but when her mother decided to take her off the med because of negative reactions, a SWAT team was sent to her house to kidnap her child.

Read the article at:
http://www.naturalnews.com/032501_Maryanne_Godboldo_Child_Protective_Services .html

[g.k.r]

they link it to 700 percent increase in miscarriages too
http://www.naturalnews.com/030657_vaccines_miscarriages.html#ixzz17YlBW3hP
heres another artical where it says 2 and half times more likely to have adhd etc
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/75333.php
heres an article about polysorbate 80 in vaccines,, known link to infertility in humans, one way to keep future populations down, who said the reduction is fake.lol
http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/polysorbate-80-in-swine-flu-vaccines-infertility-in-humans

[Arrowwind]

I too have seen too much autism and seizure disorder from the mmr. as a nurse I have seen statstically too many cases for their stats are correct. I have seen some very tragic cases from vaccines, both mmr and pertussis.

I know first hand that the measles vaccine disrupts the immune system and can cause arthritis. when I received a measles vaccine I was in pain before I even got to the parking lot from the clinic, thats how fast it was. I have delt with RA ever since, from that day forward, about 16 years now. fortuantely I have found very good alternative medicine to keep it well at bay.

the vaccines screwed up my kids although they did not have autism.. it was a lesser assault in their cases, which homeoapthy helped them to get past.

Please be aware that the chicken pox vaccine is very dangerous. many kids who get it still get the pox and some year after year. they are not developing any immunity to it after receiving the vaccine. Allow your kids to acquire natual chicken pox and be done with it.

If you really want to understand the dangers of vaccine search for the works of Dr Sherry Tenpenny.
here you go http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx (http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx)

for those who are dealing with autism there is much antedotal evidence, what I call clinical testimonies, that MMS signficantly helps with autism/ My opinion is that autism is caused by microbal imbalance and gut flora imbalance that damages the gut lining and causes metabolic imbalance significant to affect mental functioning. Dr Wakefield has proven this.. but they crucify him

and this is a must read if you are sitting on the fence about vaccines
http://www.naturalnews.com/SpecialReports/VaccinesFullStory/v1/VaccineReport-EN.pdf

[shadowstalker]

where's that Bill Gates vid where he states that vaccines where being used purposely to depop the planet and he's all for it. I am surprised no one put that up yet.

[Arrowwind]

where's that Bill Gates vid where he states that vaccines where being used purposely to depop the planet and he's all for it. I am surprised no one put that up yet.

now don't get me wrong, I don't like gates but he did not say that vaccines were being used to depopulate the planet.
his theory is that if families have healthier children they will not feel compelled to have more children. In poverty striken agricultural areas many children are born for parents fear that not enough will survive. Also, the more educated people are the less children they tend to have, so education and vaccination is a way that Gates sees to create an environment where less chidlren are born into poverty and disease conditions which will make for better, healtheir successful families. Families that deal with a lot of child death also have a harder time prospering and caring for themselves and the children that do survivie. order the videos from netflex called " guns, germs and steel" by Jarred Diamond... especially part two.

[g.k.r]

heres bit on gates.lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRjEIZd24KI