The Anunnaki

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All,

I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is: :)

Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.

They are 8-9 feet tall [2.4 - 2.7m], and like dressing up in ceremonial costumes (including headdresses), which are colorful, flamboyant, ornate, and ceremonial. Their culture goes back to 100,000 years or more, and they attach a great importance to tradition, ritual, ceremony and symbols.

They have large heads with a pronounced jaw and are physically very strong. They also have enhanced mental abilities and can certainly operate effectively in the astral realms. But their technology (spacecraft, and ability to manipulate space and time) is also very advanced.

They certainly do not ride around on an icy, rocky planetoid ("Nibiru") waiting patiently for it to return near Earth every 3,600 years. They have their own spacecraft. Henry Deacon said they looked a little like this (the 'wings' retract and are ornamental):

http://projectavalon.net/Winged_craft_similar_to_Anunnaki.jpg

They were here in Sumerian times, about 6,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth to 'jump-start' the Sumerian civilization which had always puzzled archeologists inasmuch as it seemed to arise out of a much more primitive culture, almost literally overnight.

Suddenly, the Sumerians had law, government, education, finance, literature, music, and everything that we would assume as a necessary part of a healthy civilized society.

The Anunnaki attach a great deal of importance to administration, laws, finance, agreements, and very complex administrative structures. Much of what has become imported into human societies as royal ceremony, pyramidal hierarchies, levels of initiation within secret societies, and all the attached complex symbolism, much of which has high traditional significance but which can also be deliberately obscure to the casual observer, can all be traced back to Anunnaki influence.

In present time, they are active on Mars, and this has been reported by Project Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_3.html#Mars) (pseudonym), who saw them at first hand. Henry said that since Sumerian times, the Anunnaki race has split into two factions - one friendly to humans and the other less so.

He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.

According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.



Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011

[Hiram]

Great stuff Bill! Thank You!!

[nearing]

Great info!

Also, I hadn't heard about Sitchin's passing. Great man.

[Meadowlark]

Thanks Bill!

I've heard the Annunaki mentioned a lot, but I've always wondered what they looked like and what their motives were, so this is helpful. I remember Henry Deacon hinting about certain ETs that would eat humans, but I never heard anything about who he was referring to until now-- pretty disturbing!

Also, this is pretty significant information about where Sitchin got his information from and that he was involved with the NSA. This is the first I've heard about either of those things.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Very interesting! Presumably Sitchin could read Sumerian, so he provided the ideal cover for the Annunaki to contact him. So who was he in contact with - the negatives (presumably Enlil) or the positives (presumably Enki)? Apologies if I am over-simplifying this.

[Deega]

Hi Bill,

Great thread, nice to bring this phenomenon forward, it's delicate, it's not palpable, it fringes with the invisible, but how interesting...!, thanks!

Another author that is worth reading on similar entities (as Annunaki) is Anton Park. Though his work is french, I find him quite special and thought provoking!

All the best to you.

Deega

[Roseheart]

Thank you so much Bill.
I always felt something in Sitchins work just didn't ring true/resonate for me... It was a 'flavor'... Now I know why.

[perfectresonance]

For those interested about the human history that involves the Anunaki, I strongly recommend you go here (http://www.slavespecies.com/) and buy Micheal Tellinger's book "Slave Species of god". (lower case g!) I see it is available as a download now at only USD$18.

Tellinger is an amazing man with some amazing work to his name, but if you need 3rd party confirmation, Zecharia Sitchin wrote the foreword to this book.

If anyone in New Zealand would like to borrow my copy, PM your address and I'll send it to you at the cost of getting it to the next person on the list or back to me when you are done!

[Jean-Luc]

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He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.



Hey Bill, I had never heard this part. Would this meeting have taken place on Earth or on Mars ? I remember Henri Deacon talking with some emotion about the good things that were being done on Mars (without giving details though). Does this imply the influence of the friendly to humans faction of these Annunaki? Or am I "in the moon" suggesting this? :)

[Davidallany]

According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed)
I have not known this before now, I will miss him very much.

[Bill Ryan]

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He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.



Hey Bill, I had never heard this part. Would this meeting have taken place on Earth or on Mars ? I remember Henri Deacon talking with some emotion about the good things that were being done on Mars (without giving details though). Does this imply the influence of the friendly to humans faction of these Annunaki? Or am I "in the moon" suggesting this? :)

The meeting was on Earth. :)

As Kerry and I understood from Henry, 6,000 years after Sumerian times there were now two factions of the Anunnaki: those that were friendly, and those what were not. (He said, as I recall, that there was a degree of conflict between the two.)

[quench]

The meeting was on Earth. :)

As Kerry and I understood from Henry, 6,000 years after Sumerian times there were now two factions of the Anunnaki: those that were friendly, and those what were not. (He said, as I recall, that there was a degree of conflict between the two.)

Do you mean friendly/unfriendly or concerned/unconcerned ?

[kersley]

Hi Bill.
I have a few questions.
If the Annunaki came here 6,000 years ago to kick start civilisation, Why do Robert Bauval and Anthony West + others date the Pyramids and Sphinx 10.500 years old?
Bauval also concludes that ancient Egypt was built by Black Africans from west Africa (sky people of the Sahara) in his new book. Black Genesis...Again he dates them 10,000 +

And why Michael tellinger date the Adams calender 100,000 + ?
Onyxknight said in one of his post that the Annunaki set course for earth in 2003 or was it 2005? But was stopped by Myriad? more reason why you should give this young man an interview.
One more thing. The 'veteran researcher' can say what he likes, who can question him now Sitchin is gone?
Did he ever mention this info when Sitchin was alive?
K

[johnf]

One of the problems I have run into in trying to understand this stuff is the prevalence of information that talks about multiple races having influence on our civilizations.
But the Anunnaki seem to get all the press, as well as the preponderance of focus on the negative. Then I read something about Anunnaki being a catch all term for those who came from the heavens. Has anyone seen evidence that the focus on one race may be the result of information tampering?

[g.k.r]

this fits this topic i think:)

http://xfacts.com/sumerian.htm

[Tangri]

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Dear All,

I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is: :)

Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.
I want to add my humble knowledge to the subject .
Sumerians called Anu as a daytime god. They had also Utu with wings (RA) for sun,/light but most importantly they had a suprime being,/ creator god of gods Dingir(tengri, tanri). Dinger is a creator not Anu.
Love and Peace

[Victor laszlo]

So much drama, so little time.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

According to Enoch and others in the times of the fallen angels, and from what I can gather; the Anunnaki comprised half of the gifted ones of Atlantis; the ones who caused it's destruction and later created giants adding many extra strands of DNA, one strand per foot to create these giants, and they kept experimenting putting insect and bird heads on huge giant bodies and other torturous creations and in this manner, they created dinosaurs and other creatures and the Earth had to be destroyed and cleansed several times after these creatures began eating normal humans and generally being out of control and horrendously evil. This is my quick version of our historic past and always good for a chuckle ; )

For a time, we were forced into enslavement and how this was accomplished was by Anunnaki tinkering with our DNA strands and limiting them to 2 out of the origianl 12 strands ~ but those days are over now. With the opening of our third eyes, we began to "see" again and regain the ability to alter and restore the missing 10 strands and even more ~ back to our original powers we had prior to Earth and that's where we are now. When we agreed to come here, we agreed to a limit of about 16% of our gifts and talents. Yikes! Such a deal! Now, we are able to regain even more than 100% plus any we earned living upon the Earth.

With the solar winds blowing consciousness over us, we can absorb and progress back into all the gifts like telepathy and so many others, that we laid down to come to this 3D experience. It is time to ascend and ascend we will. It took a lot of time to get to this point but once reached, there will be no turning back. Thankfully.

The Anunnaki have been reformed or so, we've been advised by the higher celestial realms through channels and only recently did this transformation occur. No Anunnaki remain on Earth according to sources like Sheldan Nigel and Salusa and others. It is only their lessor minions or residue, who have been left here and did not get the memo. Once they found this out, they've been in a panic. These are now to be rounded up and put where they can do no harm to us or the Earth. (See Salusa 11 May 2011 posting on arrests & safe-keeping of these folks).

We've helped other planets to ascend in the past, this is another reason why veils of forgetfulness were placed, and we are Masters in our own right. We have the ability provided, we ask for it, to remember who we are and how to achieve this new dimension, and eventually return to other quests that await us as new Galactic Citizens welcomed in all universes. It's been a very long journey here.

There is to be the arrival soon of our Ancient and loving relatives from Inner Earth who will surface to assist us in the final steps necessary for ascension and it involves going to Inner Earth into crystal temples with a special mentor who has been with us since birth, if we choose to go there ~ to review all our lives and 3D experiences to gain full recognition about all that has been achieved and there, if we so choose, we will be clarified, and sanctified so that our ascension can take place. And so it is....we are so blessed! xoxoxox

[Arc]

I have been trying to figure out and understand a few things about the Anunnaki based on the patchy information "out there". Bill's opening report adds some new insights. Still I have some questions - if anyone can add any answers, or even well thought out speculation.

1) Are the Anunnaki one race? or a civilization of more than one race??
2) Are the Anunnaki a race of humans? - larger in stature, and more advanced, but genetically human, or human-oid?
3) What is the relationship with Reptilian races? Are the Anunnaki related to them? Are they competing/warring/cooperating with them? Do they interact??? I have heard some call Anunnaki as Reptilians, but from what I read they are human-like - that is why I am confused.
4) Is there Anunnaki bloodlines/ancestory within the current human genome?
5) Are multiple ET races shaping Earth history and future - and are they working together, competing, or warring?? And where do the Anunnaki fit in this big picture??
6) Are the PTB (or PTW), or factions of, allied with Anunnaki? Are the PTB, divided based on other ET alliances? Or are they all unified, or party to a 'treaty' on a larger scale??

I would appreciate any relevant and credible answers if know. Perhaps this is a puzzle we are all trying to piece together...

[HaveBlue]

Of course it would be great to know just which bits of Z.Sitchens work are disinfo and which bits we should take seriously.

With human flesh eating involved it is no suprise 'they' keep it to themselves so they don't send us public into a panic.
Personally anything that is true I can handle. It's the lies that send me nuts.

[undertheradar]

Thanks for this Bill. Have you heard of Chris Thomas? He speaks of the Velon as being the original ET race of which the Annunaki was one group. I know this doesn't completely jive with Sitchin's theories. What do you make of this?

Best...

[Spellbound]

I have been trying to figure out and understand a few things about the Anunnaki based on the patchy information "out there". Bill's opening report adds some new insights. Still I have some questions - if anyone can add any answers, or even well thought out speculation.

1) Are the Anunnaki one race? or a civilization of more than one race??
2) Are the Anunnaki a race of humans? - larger in stature, and more advanced, but genetically human, or human-oid?
3) What is the relationship with Reptilian races? Are the Anunnaki related to them? Are they competing/warring/cooperating with them? Do they interact??? I have heard some call Anunnaki as Reptilians, but from what I read they are human-like - that is why I am confused.
4) Is there Anunnaki bloodlines/ancestory within the current human genome?
5) Are multiple ET races shaping Earth history and future - and are they working together, competing, or warring?? And where do the Anunnaki fit in this big picture??
6) Are the PTB (or PTW), or factions of, allied with Anunnaki? Are the PTB, divided based on other ET alliances? Or are they all unified, or party to a 'treaty' on a larger scale??

I would appreciate any relevant and credible answers if know. Perhaps this is a puzzle we are all trying to piece together...

I'd be very interested in the above questions being answered (clarified). Awesome thread by the way.

[Hybrid5226]

He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.


This occupys the same point for me .Back in 1995 a electronics engineer(long time friend) shared a picture with me of what looked like a freezer or meat locker with human torso's hanging from hooks in it with a being standing infront of the locker that did not appear to be human .

At the time that he let me keep the picture I went to attend the Disclosure Project when it was first touring around the country an I was going to show it to the hosts of the Disclosure Project but chickened out because at the time it was so bizarre to me that this was even possible .

I had a friend who attended the event with me who I showed the pictures to an like me she had a hard time processesing what we were looking at .

Thanks for sharing this info Bill .

Erin

[nomadguy]

sighs, are they on mars?...

[firstlook]

The part about Sitchin's work being channeled is something I never heard before. Very interesting.

Thanks for posting Bill. Its fine summary indeed. :)

[Tangri]

I have been trying to figure out and understand a few things about the Anunnaki based on the patchy information "out there". Bill's opening report adds some new insights. Still I have some questions - if anyone can add any answers, or even well thought out speculation.

1) Are the Anunnaki one race? or a civilization of more than one race??
2) Are the Anunnaki a race of humans? - larger in stature, and more advanced, but genetically human, or human-oid?
3) What is the relationship with Reptilian races? Are the Anunnaki related to them? Are they competing/warring/cooperating with them? Do they interact??? I have heard some call Anunnaki as Reptilians, but from what I read they are human-like - that is why I am confused.
4) Is there Anunnaki bloodlines/ancestory within the current human genome?
5) Are multiple ET races shaping Earth history and future - and are they working together, competing, or warring?? And where do the Anunnaki fit in this big picture??
6) Are the PTB (or PTW), or factions of, allied with Anunnaki? Are the PTB, divided based on other ET alliances? Or are they all unified, or party to a 'treaty' on a larger scale??

I would appreciate any relevant and credible answers if know. Perhaps this is a puzzle we are all trying to piece together...

I'd be very interested in the above questions being answered (clarified). Awesome thread by the way.
I do not want to touch Questions 1, 2, 3,4, It might upset some self-appointed authors.
Q-5 - Yes multiple ET races shaping Earth history and future also Human DNA. more than 30 species were reported
some of them working together as a symbiotic type. some of them competing and warring. Anunnaki was ,is one of the appeared group to the Humans. Because they showed them self they are claiming ownership over human kind they have left watching dogs on Earth (elites, Royals)
Q6- PTB(or PTW) is a watchdog , supervisors for self-claimed owners .
visitors and earth based entities do not like each other but because of the human's consent they are co-exist on Earth.
Visitors they are party to a treaty with each other and using the treaty between few of them and Humans.
There are unwarranted other parties try to visit, but Earth is a reserved area for accepted races.
I hope this summary will help you.
Love and Peace

[Rainbow44]

I was wondering if the large bones that have been found are Anunnaki?
Does anyone know?
Also is the Mayan headdress along with Anasazi have anything to do with the prefered dress of the Anunnaki?

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Hybrid,

is there any possibility this photo could make it's way onto avalon? I am sure there would be many interested in seeing it :)

Thanks for the info bill, great thread, and great questions all

PVM

[Mike]

whenever i think of the Annunaki, i think of the creatures presented in the movie(s) 'Predator'. it's likely because i tend to associate them with the reptilians (Bill, really looking forward to your answer to arc's 3rd question - Annunaki/reptilian relationship)

one thing that has always confused me is, with the exception of the first 'Predator' starring Arnold Schwartzenegger, the rest have been imo pretty mediocre and lacking in star actors. i've never really heard a clamoring for 'Predator' sequels, and yet, they just keep churning them out.

[Teresa]

So much history so little time! I'm right at this moment reading The Lost Book of Enki. It's a great read whatever you believe. I've always thought 'Enki good guy - Enlil bad guy' and have wondered if these are the two sides of the current warring family. If you know your Genesis basics, and have read some of Sitchin's stuff, you can pretty much equate Enlil with Jehovah/Yaweh. Following on from that then I started to wonder if Jesus was one of the Good Annunaki (perhaps not Enki tho). In any case after pondering this for a while I realised that no, he wasn't, and in that realisation the whole Annunaki/ET question was relegated to it's proper place, which for me personally, is not all that important in the larger scheme of things. Just my opinion, and enjoying the thread all the same.

[Tony]

My question is: Do they have a spiritual element?
I have heard nothing to suggests wisdom.

Therefore they seem to be even more caught up in illusions
than we are!

How I would dearly love to sit down and have a good chat
with them!!!
pie'n'eal

[Darla Ken Pearce]

How I would dearly love to sit down and have a good chat
with them!!!
pie'n'eal

You can ask to do this and or to chat with any others for instance, ascended masters or archangels by doing this: When you go to bed at night, ask to enter into Delta state while sleeping and there you may directly ask questions and speak to those on different higher dimensions then Earth. We are directly connected to source and the higher realms in this state. Many here on Earth can also be accessed for chit chat through your kind intent. Sometimes when we can't reach someone, it could be a member of our family or whatever, we can communicate with them on etheric or other levels not easily reached speaking directly here but possible on another higher level. Ask and it is granted takes on a whole new meaning.

[Wiremu2011]

Whenever Sitchens name comes up, I can't help but think of Icke interview with Arizona Wilder claiming Sitchen was present at some high end satanic ceremony with Royalty if I remember correctly, and that he too shapeshifted amongst others. Is anyone able to further verify this information.
Especially after the claim that Sitchens work was channeled, I couldn't help but wonder if his shapeshifting escapade was true, then what was the source of the Chanel?

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Whenever Sitchens name comes up, I can't help but think of Icke interview with Arizona Wilder claiming Sitchen was present at some high end satanic ceremony with Royalty if I remember correctly, and that he too shapeshifted amongst others. Is anyone able to further verify this information.
Especially after the claim that Sitchens work was channeled, I couldn't help but wonder if his shapeshifting escapade was true, then what was the source of the Chanel?

Good questions Werimu. I would be ilso interested to hear if anyone has further information on this.

PVM

[Tony]

How I would dearly love to sit down and have a good chat
with them!!!
pie'n'eal

You can ask to do this and or to chat with any others for instance, ascended masters or archangels by doing this: When you go to bed at night, ask to enter into Delta state while sleeping and there you may directly ask questions and speak to those on different higher dimensions then Earth. We are directly connected to source and the higher realms in this state. Many here on Earth can also be accessed for chit chat through your kind intent. Sometimes when we can't reach someone, it could be a member of our family or whatever, we can communicate with them on etheric or other levels not easily reached speaking directly here but possible on another higher level. Ask and it is granted takes on a whole new meaning.



When I say chat, I mean investigate what they really do know!!
What wisdom do they know beyond this dream world, beyond their dream world,

pie'n'eal

[kersley]

I was wondering if the large bones that have been found are Anunnaki?
Does anyone know?
Also is the Mayan headdress along with Anasazi have anything to do with the prefered dress of the Anunnaki?

I'm guessing the large bones are those of the Giants in olden days. spoken of in your Bible. These giants were the off springs of the Iggigit and earth human..
The Igigite was a race of hybrids (workers who was always moaning about hard work) who were stationed on Mars, That came down to earth for the wedding of Marduk.

Enki and Enlil the 2 waring brothers refused to live with them so ordered that they leave with their off springs to a far away land. again spoken of in the Bible.
I need to get ready for work now, will catch up later...

[Cognitive Dissident]

Forgot to ask earlier why the idea that the Annunaki genetically engineered humanity about 200,000 years ago is not mentioned in Bill's summary?

[David Topí]

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Dear All,

I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is: :)

Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.

They are 8-9 feet tall [2.4 - 2.7m], and like dressing up in ceremonial costumes (including headdresses), which are colorful, flamboyant, ornate, and ceremonial. Their culture goes back to 100,000 years or more, and they attach a great importance to tradition, ritual, ceremony and symbols.

They have large heads with a pronounced jaw and are physically very strong. They also have enhanced mental abilities and can certainly operate effectively in the astral realms. But their technology (spacecraft, and ability to manipulate space and time) is also very advanced.

They certainly do not ride around on an icy, rocky planetoid ("Nibiru") waiting patiently for it to return near Earth every 3,600 years. They have their own spacecraft. Henry Deacon said they looked a little like this (the 'wings' retract and are ornamental):

http://projectavalon.net/Winged_craft_similar_to_Anunnaki.jpg

They were here in Sumerian times, about 6,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth to 'jump-start' the Sumerian civilization which had always puzzled archeologists inasmuch as it seemed to arise out of a much more primitive culture, almost literally overnight.

Suddenly, the Sumerians had law, government, education, finance, literature, music, and everything that we would assume as a necessary part of a healthy civilized society.

The Anunnaki attach a great deal of importance to administration, laws, finance, agreements, and very complex administrative structures. Much of what has become imported into human societies as royal ceremony, pyramidal hierarchies, levels of initiation within secret societies, and all the attached complex symbolism, much of which has high traditional significance but which can also be deliberately obscure to the casual observer, can all be traced back to Anunnaki influence.

In present time, they are active on Mars, and this has been reported by Project Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_3.html#Mars) (pseudonym), who saw them at first hand. Henry said that since Sumerian times, the Anunnaki race has split into two factions - one friendly to humans and the other less so.

He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.

According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.



Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011


Hi Bill,
any indication/info on the actual system/planet/whereabouts of the annunaki home? They must have an origin somewhere as the initial point on their civilation, would you have any hint about it?

thanks!

[kersley]

whenever i think of the Annunaki, i think of the creatures presented in the movie(s) 'Predator'. it's likely because i tend to associate them with the reptilians (Bill, really looking forward to your answer to arc's 3rd question - Annunaki/reptilian relationship)

one thing that has always confused me is, with the exception of the first 'Predator' starring Arnold Schwartzenegger, the rest have been imo pretty mediocre and lacking in star actors. i've never really heard a clamoring for 'Predator' sequels, and yet, they just keep churning them out.

Watch that film Predator again. I think it's alien vs predator. it tells a story how the predators came to earth and ruled over us, building pyramids, creating the mayan civilisation and we are just game to them..
Not a nice bunch. Who ever wrote that film must have based it on Sitchins work. 100% sure of that.

[kevlor]

to imply that z stitchins work was all derived via channelling does not do justice to stitchins lifetime work.

the clay tablets in museums around the world testify to the sumarians knowledge as HISTORY of the anunnaki. this is explained in depth by stitsins book "the lost book of enki" .

further proof of the ancient history of the anunnaki, and which broadly confirms what stitchin wrote has been uncovered and is being presented right now, to anyone interested by michael tellenger.

is it important? my oath. this is your life, get to know WHAT your life is... kev

[stardustaquarion]

Joshep Farrell does think that Sitchin is not 100 pct accurate and it is worth reviewing his books. Here there are hours of interviews that Farrell has done on the Byte show http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

Particularly relevant to the Anunnaki are Genes Giants Monsters And Men and Cosmic War

In Genes Giants Monsters And Men Farrell poses the question of ownership of the human race that is certainly thought provoking

Cheers

[PHARAOH]

whenever i think of the Annunaki, i think of the creatures presented in the movie(s) 'Predator'. it's likely because i tend to associate them with the reptilians (Bill, really looking forward to your answer to arc's 3rd question - Annunaki/reptilian relationship)

one thing that has always confused me is, with the exception of the first 'Predator' starring Arnold Schwartzenegger, the rest have been imo pretty mediocre and lacking in star actors. i've never really heard a clamoring for 'Predator' sequels, and yet, they just keep churning them out.

Chinaski, according to my studies these Predetors are real and visited earth to hunt prehistoric game for fun.

[PHARAOH]

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Dear All,

I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is: :)

Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.

They are 8-9 feet tall [2.4 - 2.7m], and like dressing up in ceremonial costumes (including headdresses), which are colorful, flamboyant, ornate, and ceremonial. Their culture goes back to 100,000 years or more, and they attach a great importance to tradition, ritual, ceremony and symbols.

They have large heads with a pronounced jaw and are physically very strong. They also have enhanced mental abilities and can certainly operate effectively in the astral realms. But their technology (spacecraft, and ability to manipulate space and time) is also very advanced.

They certainly do not ride around on an icy, rocky planetoid ("Nibiru") waiting patiently for it to return near Earth every 3,600 years. They have their own spacecraft. Henry Deacon said they looked a little like this (the 'wings' retract and are ornamental):

http://projectavalon.net/Winged_craft_similar_to_Anunnaki.jpg

They were here in Sumerian times, about 6,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth to 'jump-start' the Sumerian civilization which had always puzzled archeologists inasmuch as it seemed to arise out of a much more primitive culture, almost literally overnight.

Suddenly, the Sumerians had law, government, education, finance, literature, music, and everything that we would assume as a necessary part of a healthy civilized society.

The Anunnaki attach a great deal of importance to administration, laws, finance, agreements, and very complex administrative structures. Much of what has become imported into human societies as royal ceremony, pyramidal hierarchies, levels of initiation within secret societies, and all the attached complex symbolism, much of which has high traditional significance but which can also be deliberately obscure to the casual observer, can all be traced back to Anunnaki influence.

In present time, they are active on Mars, and this has been reported by Project Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_3.html#Mars) (pseudonym), who saw them at first hand. Henry said that since Sumerian times, the Anunnaki race has split into two factions - one friendly to humans and the other less so.

He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.

According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.



Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011


Hi Bill,
any indication/info on the actual system/planet/whereabouts of the annunaki home? They must have an origin somewhere as the initial point on their civilation, would you have any hint about it?

thanks!

David Topi, They come from the 19th galaxy called Illyuwn. They are from the eigth planet called RIZQ. It is a tri solor system. In other words they have three suns. Long ago there was a war in the Heavens Murduk and his angesl fought against Tarnush and his angels and cast them out. Tarnush then attacked the planet "RIZQ" with a shield depleter (Aer-o-sol). Sound familiar? This is why they mined for gold. They are using the gold in a fine dust form to shield thier planet from the tri-solor systems ultraviolet rays.

[Nortreb]

Here is an article from 2003 by Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone on the Annunaki:

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/killingannunaki23oct03.shtml

I find this article interesting information.

Peace,

Nortreb

[Moonwish]

I was wondering if the large bones that have been found are Anunnaki?
Does anyone know?
Also is the Mayan headdress along with Anasazi have anything to do with the prefered dress of the Anunnaki?



I have seen lots of images of very large human bones on the internet. Real? Some seem to be.
Try searching "giant skeleton" and see what comes up.

[scotusa]

As Kerry and I understood from Henry, 6,000 years after Sumerian times there were now two factions of the Anunnaki: those that were friendly, and those what were not. (He said, as I recall, that there was a degree of conflict between the two.)Enki and Enlil factions? According to Laurence Gardner (The Origin of God) Enlil seems to be the model of what some of us call God. That seems to be in reverse as Enki looks to have been the good guy? Comments Bill?

[AuCo]

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They were here in Sumerian times, about 6,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth to 'jump-start' the Sumerian civilization which had always puzzled archeologists inasmuch as it seemed to arise out of a much more primitive culture, almost literally overnight.
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ET direct interference was a real thing then, against [current] ETs protocols (as observed by some "in-the-know")? The Sumerian culture was thriving over an extended period, neither technologically nor spiritually advanced, but more in administrations with the forward knowledge of the physical universe. Sounds like they came bare handed, like the first English men sent to Australia. Did they mean to come that way, as a survival challenge? The tablets did not mention of advanced machinery as you would think off-world civilization would bring with them, maybe Sitchin was asked to hush it? At any rate, one would think such artifacts can surely survive the mere 6000 years.

As for creating humans to "mine" gold, uhm! robots are far more efficient. How about gold was offered as a symbol of gratitude?

The idea of eating your own half kind is some what incomprehensible. Unless human kind contains nothing of them, but then again snakes do eat other snakes, and humans can turn into cannibals when starvation means death.

IMHO, if the Anunnaki did own us, they could have let us know better instead of just packed up and left. After all, they had the entire Sumerian period to mutter so. Seems like eh, whatever! :dance:

[Lord Sidious]

Enki and Enlil factions? According to Laurence Gardner (The Origin of God) Enlil seems to be the model of what some of us call God. That seems to be in reverse as Enki looks to have been the good guy? Comments Bill?

Enlil is yahweh/jehovah.
That being the case, Enki is satan.
Remembering that satan means the adversary.

[manny]

could it be the Anunnaki jump started the human race for their own goals.
then they left,leaving a few to manage us.(the elite).
now we have evolved much quicker than expected.
we are becoming aware and the Anunnaki ,do not like this.(maybe some do).
so maybe a future disaster to reduce the population.
and start again with the remaining survivors.(another enslaved new society)
what do you think?kinda makes sense.

[twilightmama]

I've heard that Arizona Wilder told David Icke that she saw Sitchin shapeshift, to which Icke commented that that was strange because Sitchin had always told him to NOT investigate the reptilian race.

I have gotten a funny feeling reading Sitchin's work and thought he might be a disinformation agent, but have always still had a soft spot for him, and a lot of his work still rings true with me.

The channeled aspect adds a funny little twist to the story; I'd love to hear more!

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Enlil is yahweh/jehovah.
That being the case, Enki is satan. Remembering that satan means the adversary.

These represent duality in it's purest form. Good and Evil. We have completed 3D constructs and these old limited paradigms. We can see many other facets of these diamonds ~ we are becoming even as our bodies change and manifest from carbon based to Crystalline. We must leave the old systems and step into a much larger and constantly expanding vista ~ recognizing all the colors and facets of the diamonds we are becoming.

Further, if we are beautiful creations and I know we are, whatever origins we come from have the most tremendous value to us ~ no matter how many contributed, what, or where, it is all good, all light, all kind, and in the end most loving. Just look at us. Can you see this?

There are many bones all over YouTube from the Giants of old. No matter how our historic past pans out. Know in advance that during all of our lives in this Earth experience, we have become even greater Masters than before we voluntarily came to this Earthly experiment.

We've played the parts and been Anunnaki ourselves in this or other incarnations. Played the parts of both dark and light. How else could we fully appreciate all that we are? How else could we open our hearts and allow forgiveness to flow if it were not so? Love your enemies! Bless those that smite you on one cheek and so forth. It's because we are all these "others" inside us, a whole universe and galaxies exist and are purring away. We are all the ONE. Today the Anunnaki may be located in your buttocks area, I don't know, use your imagination. Quit thinking in 3D and become Omnipresent instead. Get your thought into the higher elevations where you gain more perspective. Like the view of Earth from a mountaintop or airplane window.

Even the bones of Giants lose their power to frighten us. Go to the zoo and look at all the stripes, spots, and colorful expressions of love that surround us. Cherish this greatest of designers who worked upon the Earth and manifested such beauty!

Only then, can we realize that no matter what our origins are or were, we have earned the privilege of coming out of slavery now and much, much, stronger than we went into this experiment ~ like sheep to a slaughter ~ no more.

First to be forgotten is that we are INFINITE creations of a most loving source.

While we may have become locked into enslavement for a time, it means nothing in the scope of all we are and can become.

Remembrance is key but don't let barriers like the Anunnaki stop your progress out of 3D limited paradigms and all the barriers they represent to our spirits. Step into your own power. We will feel this more strongly in coming days when the prosperity of heaven falls upon us.

Sovereignty is directly related to freedom. Ours is being gifted back to us by a most loving universe that runs on love. We needed the dark to define light. Please remember with all the kindness you can muster, that we cannot have light without the dark. It's just not possible. It's why we came here to map this territory out with some greater clarity. It's all been worthwhile and soon you will be able to realize these things through your own fully awakened consciousness. Embrace consciousness and let's go full speed ahead.

Incidentally, all of these questions, arguments, and speculations have value ~ all will be known soon. You can ask your guides and higher power now and receive answers. @Manny you are right the only thing missing, is that these illusions are all 3D and will go away now if we will let them and release them. First in our thoughts.

Gird up your loins as they say ~ but always remember that this Universe and Milky Way Galaxy and all the other ones in the trillions of trillions are based on just one thing: LOVE is all there is, so do not be afraid of all the good things coming. Embrace them instead! The rest remains illusion and just shadows on the wall of Plato's cave.

Much love! xoxoxox

[Peace of Mind]

Hmm, I believe there’s a bit of disinfo in the OP. I also doubt this is being passed off as anthentic...seeing the amount of unanswered questions. It can be damaging to ones credibility to make such a thread filled with speculation and forget to leave a disclaimer.

We will never get the full picture, especially if you don’t interview the people from Africa (where much of this talk is based around). Dr. Malachi Z. York, Dr. Ben Yochanin's, and Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop are scholars and have very interesting books on the subject. These 3 are just a few to name, there are plenty more professionals but these 3 seem to be the more credible due to their higher esteem/dignity in not letting stereotypes and blatant misrepresentation deter them from their work. I rather hear from the natives before buying into foreign assumptions, we already know where that can get us.

Having a recent discussion on this topic, I decided to copy, and past some loose text from various sources. Hopefully, this will inspire further investigation that will ultimately satisfy the inquiring minds.

As there are stories about "the giants of the earth" we must wonder about these stories too. If the Anunnaki are geneticists at the highest degree then surely they are able to modify their bodies to their liking as many Humans do with plastic surgery today.

They would not only be able to alter their own bodies, adding wings etc., but they would be able to experiment with all types of dna to create the best servants for this type of environment.

What I understand, "(Anu) also An = sky, heaven, was a sky-god, the god of heaven, lord of constellations, king of gods, spirits and demons, and dwelt in the highest heavenly regions."

So it appears when the Ancients spoke of Anu, they were merely referencing the skies or in other words the heavens.

Enki as known as EA, which was the first to ascend for Amma(the sun), The name Enki is referencing, "the house of water." Enki is also known as Lord of Earth. "Enki was also a deity of crafts (= gašam), water (=a, ab ), intelligence (= gestú (literally = "ear")) and creation (Nudimmud, from dim mud, "to engender", "to shape")." It is said that Enki created man. Which tells me from all the titles associated to Enki, that Enki was a body of water on earth that possessed the power to create and shape life. Not the Annunaki, Which is said to mean "highest counsels of Anu."

The Annunaki were merely travelers that traveled Anu (the skies, heavens.) If these travelers came down to earth from the skies, I can understand why the people already here, would associate them with their God Anu. But the Annunaki wasn't the only sky terrestials. There was also the Nommo's and others that we rarely read about. My theory is that the Nommos could live within Enki. Enki had all the substances needed to substain the life of the Nommo's here on earth. So it was OANNES who shared the stories of space and travel with the beings already here, not the Annunaki's. There mission was to gather the minerals of the earth to substain their system, and they used the beings created from Enki to do the work, and appointed themselves as Gods because the knew the beings of earth viewed the Skies and Heavens as God. What better way to get the inhabitants of earth to worship and do as you say by claiming to be the Sons and Daughters of their God?

As far as the Dogon and D-Nommo this is suggested in the Enuma Elish but changed into Ur-Nommo. The Annunaki are also referred as the DURANKI Lineage and several sources trace this to the region of Ethiopia.

History already has recorded that the oldest human remains of "lucy" were found in Sub-Saharan Africa, this is where they supposedly landed. History also records that there were gold mines in that area at least 100,000 to 200,000 years old. This lends credence to the theory that they landed here around about 432,000 years ago. 5) All the wall paintings and sculptures found in Iraq and Africa relating to Sumerians, Egyptians, Nubians ect have African features. Particularly in relation to the topic depictions of the Annanaki are humanoid with kinky hair and locked hair and it appears that the beards of the men were locked.

You see, the natives have a different story to tell, and this is not even a fraction of it...

With this said, it would be a great service to us all if we can get some interviews with Africans who are actually knowledgable on the subject…It would be great to cross examine all accounts to see what new finds we can come up with, and what is considered to be lies, we can do this collectively.

I also have a thread titled “Melanin” which I’m sure will expand on the topic.

My only question to the OP is how was the photographer able to get a perfect snap shot of the aircraft, at that angle? Which (imo) doesn’t look authentic at all…actually, it looks modern, something modern man would and could make.


Peace

[Leprechaun]

The truth IS out there for sure, and the appropriate dots just need to be joined together. I think there are agendas within agendas from competing factions, all centered on this planet and at this time. I have an intuitive feeling (but accept that I may be wrong\off base) that there is an organic and natural awakening happening, that some factions may want to stop, while others work to an agenda of observation and non-interference.

That said This is a great thread and thanks again to Bill.Before this is all over I feel his part in all that is unfolding will be revealed to him

Namaste Bill Ryan

[Mike]

whenever i think of the Annunaki, i think of the creatures presented in the movie(s) 'Predator'. it's likely because i tend to associate them with the reptilians (Bill, really looking forward to your answer to arc's 3rd question - Annunaki/reptilian relationship)

one thing that has always confused me is, with the exception of the first 'Predator' starring Arnold Schwartzenegger, the rest have been imo pretty mediocre and lacking in star actors. i've never really heard a clamoring for 'Predator' sequels, and yet, they just keep churning them out.

Watch that film Predator again. I think it's alien vs predator. it tells a story how the predators came to earth and ruled over us, building pyramids, creating the mayan civilisation and we are just game to them..
Not a nice bunch. Who ever wrote that film must have based it on Sitchins work. 100% sure of that.

hi Kersley,

i certainly noticed the parallels to Sitchen's work, but in light of the "channelling" revelation in Bill's post, i just don't know how much to read into that. as usual, there is so much info/disinfo (SIGH) that the brain becomes mired down in convolution. it is my feeling that Sitchen is more accurate than inaccurate.

[kersley]

Hmm, I believe there’s a bit of disinfo in the OP. I also doubt this is being passed off as anthentic...seeing the amount of unanswered questions. It can be damaging to ones credibility to make such a thread filled with speculation and forget to leave a disclaimer.

<< see rest of post above >>

My only question to the OP is how was the photographer able to get a perfect snap shot of the aircraft, at that angle? Which (imo) doesn’t look authentic at all…actually, it looks modern, something modern man would and could make.


Peace

What a fantastic post. You certainly done your home work and a great idea. Lets all raise the cash to send Bill to Africa and interview these Africans who are actually knowledgeable on the subject..
Of course I would have to tag along to hold the camera for Bill whilst he does the interviews. We would need another person to take notes, any volunteers...:cool:

[Leprechaun]

Kersley, I second your comments about Peace of Mind, an excellent post. Im reminded of what Credo Mutwa has spoken of with regards to the Chitauri
http://www.myspace.com/futureremains/blog/300705407

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eqfZ8YUK-60/SRMJTxRAZWI/AAAAAAAAAEs/bequPzeT9AY/s400/ChitauriRice.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eqfZ8YUK-60/SRMJTxRAZWI/AAAAAAAAAEs/bequPzeT9AY/s400/ChitauriRice.jpg
The history of Africa needs to be heard if we are to make sense of the broader history of humanity

[AuCo]

What a fantastic post. You certainly done your home work and a great idea. Lets all raise the cash to send Bill to Africa and interview these Africans who are actually knowledgeable on the subject..
Of course I would have to tag along to hold the camera for Bill whilst he does the interviews. We would need another person to take notes, any volunteers...:cool:

Bill, did this topic ever come up during your interview with Mr. Credo Mutwa?

[Leprechaun]

Apologies to anyone who thinks that Condolezza is a decent human being

[Vrilya]

The Annunaki are not gods ! As they have tried to convince human beings since they showed up onour planet . It was for the white-powdered gold (monotomic gold ) known as 'shem-an-a'
This substance gave them a multi -dimensional capability they would otherwise not possess working at their 4th and 5th dimensional levels.
(For all its sham and drudgery) Being human still offers a multi-dimensional potential that few other dimensional beings possess.

[davyj0nes]

I think bill's summary is well written, and concise. My question is similar to JohnF; is annunaki just a catchall term for all the alien races that have come to earth, or would different pantheons point to different alien species?
And if i may, it is mightily unhealthy for any alien species to eat humans. you don't know where they've been, what they've eaten. Someone should let Anu know, i don't think this would sit well with him.

[AuCo]

The Vietnamese believe they are descendants of two beings of different origins: angelic from the sky and dragon (or reptilian you might say) of unknown origination, more likely from Earth itself. The angelic being gave birth to a sack of 100 eggs (symbolic speaking I am sure) which hatched into 100 races of Yuehs (?), of which the Vietnamese was one. Their original settlement was in the area now the Southern half of China. One day the father said to the mother that since they are of different origins, lasting relationship would deem impossible and they must part. The angelic mother took 50 of the children to the mountains, the reptilian father took the rest 50 to the sea, both promised to help each other out in time of needs. One of the 50 that followed the mother became the king of the land, to teach people farming way of life. Vietnamese kingship back then was nothing like today - they were just ordinary man/woman. The male Vietnamese used to have tattoo covered the entire surface of their skin, a reptilian trait I sometimes wonder. Their race is said to be 4900 years old to date. The original 18 houses of kings under the name of Hung lasted roughly 2000 years, finally overrun by Hans forces from the north. Of the 100 original Yuehs, the Vietnamese is the only one that still retains its identity today.

Before the introduction of modern religions, Vietnamese used to, and many still do believe some spirits of the dead stay with the terrain to guard over its people, most will return to the realm of origins. Anyway, the Vietnamese practice worshiping of their ancestors, but not to the degree of god, be it angelic or reptilian. They regard "heaven" as a spirit who will answer to the people's call of unjust, not necessarily being fearful of its power.

[PHARAOH]

As Kerry and I understood from Henry, 6,000 years after Sumerian times there were now two factions of the Anunnaki: those that were friendly, and those what were not. (He said, as I recall, that there was a degree of conflict between the two.)

Enki and Enlil factions? According to Laurence Gardner (The Origin of God) Enlil seems to be the model of what some of us call God. That seems to be in reverse as Enki looks to have been the good guy? Comments Bill?[/QUOTE]

Correct scotusa, apparently this is where the two party ideologies stem from. Enlil set up the "Democrates" (agreeable) from the french "democratie" to late latin "democratia" to the greek "democratia" meaning "people" in the cities of Tilmun, Salaam, Mu, Lumeria, Qodesh, Nippur/ Niffur (Nibruki), Ashkolan/ Alkebu-Lan. Enki set up his "Republic" (disagreeable) from the french/ old french "republique" to the latin "respublica" in the cities of Sippur , Kish, Kutha, Shuruppak, Uruk, Isin and Eridu.

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As Kerry and I understood from Henry, 6,000 years after Sumerian times there were now two factions of the Anunnaki: those that were friendly, and those what were not. (He said, as I recall, that there was a degree of conflict between the two.)

Enki and Enlil factions? According to Laurence Gardner (The Origin of God) Enlil seems to be the model of what some of us call God. That seems to be in reverse as Enki looks to have been the good guy? Comments Bill?[/QUOTE]

scotusa,The story of Abraham in the Bible/ BABEL and his two sons Ishmael and Israel mirror this story as this is where they get the story from.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Back in 2008, Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot) interviewed James from WingMakers. (This is a written interview, not video) In that interview James reveals more information about the Annunaki. Definitely worth a read.

http://projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

[Studeo]

Here is a video that comes across as a Educational Film for the masses.

gfaUIqN14R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaUIqN14R8

[Carmody]

Apologies to anyone who thinks that Condolezza is a decent human being

The 'play' (on her) name I always gave her was: "Conned a Lizard Lice"

[Lord Sidious]

Here is a video that comes across as a Educational Film for the masses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaUIqN14R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaUIqN14R8

There ya go nugget.

[Carmody]

One of my favorite stats concerning the Enki/ENLIL bible:

http://i43.tinypic.com/11lklsm.jpg

[nomadguy]

Apologies to anyone who thinks that Condolezza is a decent human being

The 'play' (on her) name I always gave her was: "Conned a Lizard Lice"


not all lizzies are on the same side of the game

[Carmody]

Apologies to anyone who thinks that Condolezza is a decent human being

The 'play' (on her) name I always gave her was: "Conned a Lizard Lice"


not all lizzies are on the same side of the game

IMO, That is true.

[edina]

Back in 2008, Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot) interviewed James from WingMakers. (This is a written interview, not video) In that interview James reveals more information about the Annunaki. Definitely worth a read.

http://projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

I went back and looked at this interview, this is one that I remember from when it came out. I still dive into the Wingmaker material from time to time.

Here's a snippet when James is speaking more directly about the Annunaki, for anyone who is interested:

"The pathway to God, independent of the religion or spiritual path one walked, had the same program underlying it: You are a human with a soul, this soul must be redeemed or activated, upon which you will be saved. In this process of being saved, you are relinquished of self-responsibility to the world condition. You are rewarded with a life eternal in the kingdom of God (by whatever name you call God) where you can live in bliss and/or serve as a teacher of the light.

The savior/master construct is an integral part of the GSSC, and encourages human beings to yearn for a master to teach them how to ascend, how to be saved, how to achieve nirvana, how to live a moral life, and how to ensure eternal happiness. There are masters of great wisdom and light who remain within the domain of the HMS without knowing their involvement. The subtlety is so powerful that even when you feel you have achieved self-realization you remain trapped in the HMS. It is that vast, especially when compared to the material world."

I know this thread is about the Annunaki, but if I remember correctly, James was far more concerned about the Animus.

[Vrilya]

Lucifers greatest lie was convincing people he didn't exist. Our "Creator" some call Father, Mother God, The One but the bible was not created nor written by our creator. The Anunnaki manipulated our DNA to enslave us. We were created by 22 different alien species that's what makes us so special and why tptb have been dumbing us down, polluting our world and bodies. I could go on and on about what my truth is.......... That's not me. I believe that what resonates with you, is your truth. Please don't get me wrong, If anyone wants to ask me anything about what I think I would be flattered.

BLESSINGS And LOVE ALWAYS

[sirac]

the Annunaki couldn't have come from Reptilians, they are obviously of human lineage/genetics.

i used to reading material that would posit the bad factions as [Reptilian overlords, Grey minions] and good factions as those human factions accessory to us through Billy Meier and Alex Collier (Pleiedians and Andromodeans).

Annunaki would fit in my bill under "independent human faction".............they are obviously not as advanced compared to the picture of Pleiedians and Andromodeans spiritually,
but they maintain there independence and evolution.........who cares if they good or bad (eating us or not, in two factions or not), Reptilians obviously don't mess with them, and so that's good.

i understood, they mined gold, so as to put a protective layer over Niburu, and they left us with a little gift in the form of the Sumerian civilization;
the only thing I would have to account for, is what the total contribution of the Sumerians are to us, weren't their other ancient civilizations which credited us with our present status

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and if someone thinks the Sumarian civilization thing is a jump start,
it is obviously not

sure in civilization with music and all the other amenities,
we have enough for the development of the individual soul

but not everyone has a purpose
most people just serving each other

i'd rather be a warrior working for a warrior planet

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Here is a video that comes across as a Educational Film for the masses.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaUIqN14R8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaUIqN14R8

There ya go nugget.

Just watched this...

What a cracker. Thanks Studeo!

PVM

[Leprechaun]

Re: The Anunnaki
Originally Posted by Carmody
Originally Posted by Leprechaun
Apologies to anyone who thinks that Condolezza is a decent human being
The 'play' (on her) name I always gave her was: "Conned a Lizard Lice"

not all lizzies are on the same side of the game

And I would agree that the over simplication of ETs\Annunaki into Good\Bad shifts attention from the issue we should be addressing, part of whichis who are WE, were are WE heading, what is OUR role in the game

[g.k.r]

Back in 2008, Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot) interviewed James from WingMakers. (This is a written interview, not video) In that interview James reveals more information about the Annunaki. Definitely worth a read.

http://projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

i thought this had been removed,, looked for it before said removed at james request, thanks:)

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I was wondering if the large bones that have been found are Anunnaki?
Does anyone know?
Also is the Mayan headdress along with Anasazi have anything to do with the prefered dress of the Anunnaki?



I have seen lots of images of very large human bones on the internet. Real? Some seem to be.
Try searching "giant skeleton" and see what comes up.

Unfortunately someone had the bright idea (or cleaver idea?) to start a Photoshop competition on giant human skeletons,
so most of the giant bones on the internet are these ie fake. Their are undoubtedly some real cases among them but good luck figuring out which ones :)
Like i said, cleaver.

Hurritt

[Calz]

I am going to bump a couple *very* interesting Anunnaki related posts from another thread over here.




NSA is not here to stay..

They are a bunch of little kids playing in a kiddy pool, they have no idea who or what they are up against..

Even those UFO's and inter-dimensional beings are kids playing in a kiddy pool..

There is something much bigger coming to the current tyrants of mother Earth.

Watch, listen and learn.......

They are not far away now, I have the feeling their scouts are here assessing the situation already.




My Lord, Please spill the nuggets. Who is not far away? what is the plan?

Those who are the same as Enki.
The aryans.

Now ... let us remember to be respectful, grateful and understanding of what m'lord has already gone through the last few days in "another" thread. :laser:

We are damn lucky to have him here and it is hard to measure the patience and perseverance he has exhibited at times. :hail:

Perhaps if we offer a group hug and a few packets of heritage carrot seeds he may be willing to go a bit further down this road.

:grouphug:

No 18 questions please (or 144 or 3.14 for that matter).

[Leprechaun]

Can anyone enlighten further about the Aryans spoken of, it can be somewhat confusing with various different ET factions to know who is who, from where and what the agendas are

[Calz]

Can anyone enlighten further about the Aryans spoken of, it can be somewhat confusing with various different ET factions to know who is who, from where and what the agendas are

There is some overlap and confusion regarding this (and many other related topics).

In this case ... *I believe* ... the Anunnaki are being referred to.

Aryans from other sources have been living underground in Tibet for ... who knows how long. Kerry did a radio interview with Jay Weidner that was wonderful ... but I can not get access to it from her website.

Veritas did a great interview with Jay and you can listen to the 1st portion free without being a Veritas member here:

http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/2010/05may/VS-100528-jweidner.php

Hope that helps ... others can (and hopefully will) be able to shed more light on this soon :)

[Leprechaun]

Can anyone enlighten further about the Aryans spoken of, it can be somewhat confusing with various different ET factions to know who is who, from where and what the agendas are

There is some overlap and confusion regarding this (and many other related topics).

In this case ... *I believe* ... the Anunnaki are being referred to.

Aryans from other sources have been living underground in Tibet for ... who knows how long. Kerry did a radio interview with Jay Weidner that was wonderful ... but I can not get access to it from her website.

Veritas did a great interview with Jay and you can listen to the 1st portion free without being a Veritas member here:

http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/2010/05may/VS-100528-jweidner.php

Hope that helps ... others can (and hopefully will) be able to shed more light on this soon :)

thanks Calz

[Lord Sidious]

I am going to bump a couple *very* interesting Anunnaki related posts from another thread over here.




NSA is not here to stay..

They are a bunch of little kids playing in a kiddy pool, they have no idea who or what they are up against..

Even those UFO's and inter-dimensional beings are kids playing in a kiddy pool..

There is something much bigger coming to the current tyrants of mother Earth.

Watch, listen and learn.......

They are not far away now, I have the feeling their scouts are here assessing the situation already.




My Lord, Please spill the nuggets. Who is not far away? what is the plan?

Those who are the same as Enki.
The aryans.

Now ... let us remember to be respectful, grateful and understanding of what m'lord has already gone through the last few days in "another" thread. :laser:

We are damn lucky to have him here and it is hard to measure the patience and perseverance he has exhibited at times. :hail:

Perhaps if we offer a group hug and a few packets of heritage carrot seeds he may be willing to go a bit further down this road.

:grouphug:

No 18 questions please (or 144 or 3.14 for that matter).

Thanks for the intent, but I am ok. Let's just treat each other that way all the time?
Now, there are articles you can find around the net you need to read.
The following terms are what you need arkaim and tocharians.
Start with that and I will see how you go.

[Calz]

Thanks for the intent, but I am ok. Let's just treat each other that way all the time?
Now, there are articles you can find around the net you need to read.
The following terms are what you need arkaim and tocharians.
Start with that and I will see how you go.

Ooooh ... I just LOVE treasure hunts ...

Those Sophisticated Cave Men--Ancient Aryan Civilization Achieved Incredible Technological Progress 40 Centuries Ago--Page 25

Scientists have discovered mysterious circles on the area of the ancient Russian town of Arkaim, which is the same age with Egypt and Babylon

President Putin has recently visited one of the most mysterious places on planet Earth - the ruins of the ancient town of Arkaim, which is situated on the outskirts of the city of Chelyabinsk.

Historians, archaeologists and ufologists have spent many years trying to unravel the secrets of the town. Which nation was living in Arkaim more than 40 centuries ago?

How did people of such ancient civilization manage to accomplish such incredible technological progress, which still seems to be unachievable today?

A group of Russian researchers, with Vadim Chernobrovy at the head, has recently returned from the mysterious region.

The scientists said that specialists and students had built numerous tent camps around Arkaim.


http://s8int.com/sophis25.html

[Calz]

What a deal ... Two nuggets for the price of one ... come get yer m'lord special:


Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Tocharian*

INTRODUCTION

Tocharian is an extinct Indo-European language which stands by itself as one of the eleven major groups in the IE 1 language family. It was not discovered until the turn of this century, as a result of archaeological expeditions to Chinese Turkestan. What are some of the characteristics of Tocharian and what impact has it made on our knowledge of IE languages in general? This paper seeks to answer these questions.
DISCOVERY
Chinese Turkestan, today known as the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in the People's Republic of China, was the goal of numerous archaeological expeditions in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The area consists primarily of a vast arid expanse known as the Tarim Basin, bounded by mountains on three sides which separate it from the adjacent areas of Tibet, India, Afghanistan, and what is today Soviet Central Asia. The Taklamakan desert covers most of the basin, and settlements have sprung up around the oases that are scattered throughout the area. Over the centuries, a number of sophisticated urban civilizations have sprung up in the area. The inhabitants were originally animistic and shamanistic. Later on, Buddhism and Nestorian Christianity penetrated the area. Starting with the Arab invasions of Central Asia in the eighth century, the population gradually converted to Islam, which remains today as the dominant religion in the area. Although the vast majority of the indigenous inhabitants today are Turkic, there were significant numbers of Indo-European peoples in the area prior to the second millennium of our era.
Near many of the present-day cities in the area are the ruins of ancient settlements, many of them Buddhist monasteries. The dry climatic conditions have resulted in the preservation of a large number of historical documents that were stored there in earlier times. Beginning in the 1890s and increasingly so in the first decade of this century, European explorers such as the Hungarian Marc Aurel Stein began to bring back a large number of these documents to the museums of Europe. Included in these finds were works written in Chinese, Tibetan, and numerous other languages. Two of these languages, previously unknown, proved to be related to each other. In fact, they were close enough to be considered to be two dialects of an earlier common language. Most of the manuscripts containing them were written in the Brahmi script, a north Indian syllabary, on palm leaves, Chinese paper, and wooden tablets. It soon became apparent that a large proportion of the manuscripts were translations of known Buddhist works in Sanskrit and some of them were even bilingual, thus making the decipherment of the new language much easier. The bulk of the texts were dated from the seventh and eighth centuries. Besides the religious texts, there were also monastery correspondence and accounts, commercial documents, caravan permits, and medical and magical texts.

Linguistic analysis of the language by European linguists showed that the newly discovered language was Indo-European, although it seemed to bear little resemblance to the other known IE branches, especially the geographically close Iranian branch. As with any new find, a label was needed to identify the language. On the basis of references in Old Turkic manuscripts to the speakers of this language as the "Twghry," 2 these people were identified as the Tocharoi, a tribe mentioned in classical Greek writings as having lived in Bactria (eastern Iran and Afghanistan) in the second century A.D. Thus, the language was called Tocharian, 3 its two dialects being designated as A and B. Dialect A was represented in manuscripts coming from around the towns of Qarashahr and Turfan, located in the eastern part of the Tarim basin. Therefore, it is commonly referred to as Turfanian or East Tocharian. Dialect B is sometimes called Kuchean or West Tocharian, due to the fact that most manuscripts containing it were found near the town of Kucha, further to the west.

Whether or not the speakers of these dialects were truly the Tocharoi is open to debate. "It is now generally held that the speakers of Tocharian were part of a very early migration from the central Indo-European area, possibly as early as 2000 B.C. But, as is often the case in such matters, our evidence is fragmentary and our conjectures are highly tenuous." 4 Although we don't know when the "Tocharians" arrived in Central Asia it seems that their culture lasted up until the end of the first millenium of our era, after which time they were either assimilated into the growing Turkic population in the area or simply died out. However, during their time in Central Asia, they played a key role in propagating Buddhism amongst the Turks and it may also have been via the Tocharians that Buddhism spread from India into China proper. Attempts to positively identify the Tocharians have thus far proved unsuccessful. However, the name of the language stuck and has survived to this day in the literature on the subject.


http://www.oxuscom.com/eyawtkat.htm

[ann444]

I just want to add, since no one has mentioned it, that in Kerry's interview of Michael Tellinger, he stated that he is channeling the Anunnaki, so is he channeling the good (helpful) guys or the human eating guys? Although this is all very interesting mentally, it can keep us guessing and searching forever on the mental plane and distract us from more spiritual goals. How can we trust any of these sources? Although Jay Weidner's information is interesting, he uses a bit of fuzzy logic.

[Calz]

Thanks for the intent, but I am ok. Let's just treat each other that way all the time?
Now, there are articles you can find around the net you need to read.
The following terms are what you need arkaim and tocharians.
Start with that and I will see how you go.

Call to my fellow avalonians.

Catalyst has been given and nuggets allowed.

Time for beddy bye for me ... hope to see some serious follow up here when I awaken.

I believe this is a trail worth following.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Back in 2008, Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot) interviewed James from WingMakers. (This is a written interview, not video) In that interview James reveals more information about the Annunaki. Definitely worth a read.

http://projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

i thought this had been removed,, looked for it before said removed at james request, thanks:)

I just clicked on the link - it's still there.

You can also go to the WingMakers site: www.wingmakers.com

However, I recommend you read the interview first, the site can be confusing for some.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Lord Sid gave us a name to look up ~ when I saw it, I remembered something similiar ~ except the spelling was wrong. It's starting to come back to me about a treaty made in the 1990's ~ can't quite put my finger on it but his spelling was wrong for it. This treaty was important for all of us.

I think I heard about it from one of Sheldan Nigels posts on PAO but it will take awhile to search again ~ it's something like: eucharian treaty but I've already checked that spelling and the right one is not coming up. I did some research on it that eludes me at the moment. The EU treaty comes up which is interesting. Anyway you sleuths ~ this may be what Lord Sid meant or not ~ it included the Anunnaki ; ) xoxoxox

Lord Sid: Apologies. I stand edited. Here are some fresh carrots love ; )

[Axman]

Back in 2008, Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot) interviewed James from WingMakers. (This is a written interview, not video) In that interview James reveals more information about the Annunaki. Definitely worth a read.

http://projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html

i thought this had been removed,, looked for it before said removed at james request, thanks:)

I just clicked on the link - it's still there.

You can also go to the WingMakers site: www.wingmakers.com

However, I recommend you read the interview first, the site can be confusing for some.

I thought they busted the guy that started the wingmakers out that he made it up. Thats where I stared digging years back and now Well your here too. I have listened to James interviews good positive stuff.

The Axman :confused:

[nomadguy]

One could always do the bi-location trick and have a look for yourself, only will you believe what you see?

[dan i el]

I don't know much about Sumer, maybe that was how it is. Here's someone's alternative view though:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20366-24.-My-enemy-is-my-best-teacher.&p=218122&viewfull=1#post218122

[Lord Sidious]

Lord Sid gave us the wrong spelling, it's starting to come back to me about a treaty made in the 1990's ~ can't quite put my finger on it but his spelling was wrong for it. This treaty was important for all of us. I think I heard about it from one of Sheldan Nigles posts on PAO but it will take awhile to search again ~ it's something like: eucharian treaty but I've already checked that spelling and the right one is not coming up. I did some research on it that eludes me at the moment. The EU treaty comes up which is interesting. Anyway you sleuths ~ this may be what Lord Sid meant or not ~ it included the Anunnaki ; ) xoxoxox


Spelling of what exactly?

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Lord Sid: Apologies. I stand edited. Here are some fresh carrots love ; )

[Lord Sidious]

Lord Sid: Apologies. I stand edited. Here are some fresh carrots love ; )

Thanks. I just wanted to check what I messed up and correct it.

[SrLady]

Bill, thank you for the information on the Annunaki. I would like to add one thing, and it concerns the Annunaki's mining for gold on planet terra. When I read your piece it triggered a memory of the Sitchin materials in which he said that the mined gold was used by the Annunaki to clean the atmosphere of the planet from which they came. The memory of having read that is vivid in my mind but not to the point I can tell you which book I got it from..... and so, I just "Googled" it. Lo and behold I got no Sitchin reference but what turned up was Project Camelot's interview with Henry Deacon. (How about that!) Deacon pretty much says the same thing in a different way, although he does not mention the Annunaki in this statement. But it does bear out what I remember from Zecharia Sitchin's work.


An Interview with Henry Deacon

Do you know anything about chemtrails?


OK. Chemtrails were developed by Edward Teller and are basically the seeding of thousands of tons of microparticles of
aluminum on the upper atmosphere to try to increase the albedo of the planet, the reflectivity of the planet, because of global
warming. Now, gold microparticles, real gold, were used once in a similar situation on another planet,


http://www.projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html

[Hughe]

OK. Chemtrails were developed by Edward Teller and are basically the seeding of thousands of tons of microparticles of aluminum on the upper atmosphere to try to increase the albedo of the planet, the reflectivity of the planet, because of global warming. Now, gold microparticles, real gold, were used once in a similar situation on another planet,

Chemtrails are the medium to direct/reflect electromagnetic waves which used by HAARP and other bad stuff. There are many ways of cutting down the temperature of Earth environmental friendly and cheaper.

Why they spread such toxic metal particles in atmosphere? The agenda behind it just makes me sick.

[Eva2]

Quote I thought they busted the guy that started the wingmakers out that he made it up. Thats where I stared digging years back and now Well your here too. I have listened to James interviews good positive stuff.

The Axman :confused:[/QUOTE]

Is the Wingmakers site a hoax then? I found so much of the info presented compelling - too bad if it was all an elaborate scam?

[Calz]

Thanks for the intent, but I am ok. Let's just treat each other that way all the time?
Now, there are articles you can find around the net you need to read.
The following terms are what you need arkaim and tocharians.
Start with that and I will see how you go.

Ooooh ... I just LOVE treasure hunts ...

Those Sophisticated Cave Men--Ancient Aryan Civilization Achieved Incredible Technological Progress 40 Centuries Ago--Page 25

Scientists have discovered mysterious circles on the area of the ancient Russian town of Arkaim, which is the same age with Egypt and Babylon

President Putin has recently visited one of the most mysterious places on planet Earth - the ruins of the ancient town of Arkaim, which is situated on the outskirts of the city of Chelyabinsk.

Historians, archaeologists and ufologists have spent many years trying to unravel the secrets of the town. Which nation was living in Arkaim more than 40 centuries ago?

How did people of such ancient civilization manage to accomplish such incredible technological progress, which still seems to be unachievable today?

A group of Russian researchers, with Vadim Chernobrovy at the head, has recently returned from the mysterious region.

The scientists said that specialists and students had built numerous tent camps around Arkaim.


http://s8int.com/sophis25.html

When on a treasure hunt we need to keep a sharp eye out for clues.

Of the two nugget paths left for us ... 1st quickie search engine grasp ... m'lord rewarded a "thank you" on only one.

Clue perhaps?

Let's dig a little deeper than the Russian town itself ...



The Ancient Land of Arkaim

by Alex Sparkey

We people of the Earth look into the sky with our heads turned up. But there also are places on Earth where we must look down to see the sky. Arkaim is one of these places.

Just as the Great Pyramid is the pride of Egypt, and Stonehenge, of England, Arkaim is the unique monument and territory that represents the pride of Russian land.

Ar-Ka means Sky, and Im means Earth. Arkaim is a door through which a person who lives, or is trying to live, in harmony with his conscience enters a world of peace and wonder. It is a place where the Sky touches the Earth. Many people who visit Arkaim are not always sure, at least at first, where earthly reality ends and heavenly reality begins.

Nevertheless, their faith is unshakable: Arkaim is a pathway to the Truth. Arkaim is thought of as a place where Earth touches the Higher Worlds so closely that a door between the two realities opens every now and then, giving us a chance to glimpse the unknown.

The Arkaim Valley

The Arkaim Valley is a small steppe-forest area situated not far from the eastern slopes of the Ural mountains in Russia. In this valley, surrounded by low mountain ranges, have been found a great number of archeological monuments from many different epochs.

The valley is unique for its ancient architectural complex, the Arkaim site, called the Land of Cities. In the opinion of archeologists, this structure could have served as a town, a fortress, a temple, an observatory, or even a bronze-casting shop for the ancient Aryans who lived here.

Many other unique settlements and monuments have been found in the Land of Cities. During the Bronze Age it was populated by many ancient tribes, and the Arkaim Valley has preserved landmarks of the most diverse cultures of East, West, North, and South.

The circles, ovals and squares whose forms were reproduced in the settlements of the Land of Cities were not just geometrical figures, but actually constituted model of the universe as envisioned by the Aryans, the representatives of that strange civilization.

The Land of Cities

The Land of Cities is the conventional name of a forest-steppe area in the South Urals, where more than 20 fortified settlements and necropolises of the middle Bronze Age (late 3rd to early 2nd millenium BCE) have been discovered. This area extends over more than 300 kilometers [about 200 miles] along the watershed between the rivers flowing to the Caspian sea and those emptying into the Arctic Ocean. The fortified settlements, which have the shapes of circles, ovals, and squares, were built by the ancient Aryans in picturesque landscapes between steppe rivers.

With its vivid ritual culture, the Land of Cities belongs to the category of "early non-literate civilizations," where collective memory was represented by unique architectural structures and places for cult practices — barrows and other formations visible in the landscape.

A geographical and mythological analysis of the ancient texts of Rigveda and Avesta[1] allows us to infer that the Land of Cities was connected with the legendary countries of the ancient Aryans.

Arkaim was something like the capital of the Land of Cities, and was contemporaneous with the Cretan-Mycenaean civilization in the Mediterranean Sea, the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, and the first states of Mesopotamia. The epoch of Arkaim also coincides with the last centuries of the existence of the famous civilization that flourished in the valley of the Indus river, Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa. It is 300 to 600 years older than Homer's Troy.

Arkaim Environment

The Museum-Preserve was organized in April 1991 as a result of the discovery of a unique monument, a fortified settlement named Arkaim, and a large historical area connected with the proto-urban culture of the Bronze Age.

The environment of the Arkaim Preserve combines unique steppe and steppe-forest landscapes and many archeological monuments, from Stone Age sites to barrows of late nomads.

Three-hundred-fifty-million years ago, in the Carboniferous period of the Paleozoic era, there was a volcanic ridge in this location that splashed a warm sea. Later, in the Mesozoic era, 250 million years ago, this ancient mountain country was destroyed and became a flatland. Now, it is a valley, surrounded by high, gorgeous hills and dotted with beautiful, magical forests.

Various soils and a special microclimate, with many sunny days and a propitious wind that brings clear, pure air from early spring to late autumn, create good conditions for a great variety of plant and animal species. Scientists have found more than six hundred plant species here, plus many rare birds and animals.

It seems that the Arkaim Valley, so fragrant with the delicate scents of blossoming steppe grass, is a place where Man and Nature are still in harmony, as they were so long ago.

Arkaim Museum-Preserve

From the very beginning, the 70 archeological monuments of different eras, from the Stone Age to the Late Middle Ages, have made the Arkaim Museum-Preserve a cultural and educational center and a ground for scientific research. Arkaim itself also is a town of metallurgists and potters, and has a both a temple and an observatory.

The biosphere-oriented nature of the Museum-Preserve Exposition, where the intimate connection between Nature and Man is practically demonstrated, creates in Arkaim a special atmosphere for ecological education and for forming a New World outlook based on the principles of Living Nature.

In this national park, one can see Medieval stone sculptures and familiarize oneself with the biodiversity of natural ecosystems. The traditional crafts, such as metallurgy, pottery, hand weaving, and stone and bone carving are being revived here. Each visitor can take part in the live process of creating works of handicraft.

The Arkaim Preserve is a place that attracts people of different cultures and faiths, bringing together those who are trying to discover the meaning of their lives through a dialogue with nature and awareness of humanity's historical memory.

Arkaim Today

Twelve years in the making, the Arkaim Museum-Preserve has become a place of pilgrimage for thousands of people, a place where they may encounter the ancient culture of humanity. It is a link to the past and a prism through which we may look at the possible future.

In Arkaim, the material and the spiritual are inseparable. The East and the West are fused here.

Today, in Russia, we feel that Mankind is faced by the necessity to choose Oneness. Western culture must come into unity with Eastern wisdom. If this can happen, the harmony that once reigned supreme in the Land of Cities will be restored


http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/apr3/arkaim.htm

[Calz]

Yep now we are getting somewhere ...


Arkaim, Russia's Strongest Anomaly Zone

The ancient Ural fortress Arkaim located in the Chelyabinsk region is called “Russian Stonehenge.” In addition to streets and buildings ruins scientists found remnants of the water system, metallurgic furnaces, and mines. It is also believed to be one of the strongest anomaly zones in Russia.
It is worth mentioning that Arkaim, a fortified settlement of the Bronze Age was built with four entrances to the city strictly oriented at cardinal points. It was built according to a previously designed plan, with a high level of precision. All circumferences have one center where all radial feeders meet together. This circular structure is star-oriented, and the design itself looks like a model of the Universe.

According to the research conducted by archeologist Konstantin Bystrushkin, Arkaim tracks 18 astronomical events. They include sunsets and sunrises on the days of equinox and solstice, as well as sunsets and sunrises during low and high Moon.

The famous Stonehenge, a mysterious circle of upright stones, has fewer astronomically traceable events. Interestingly enough, both architectural structures are located at the same geographical latitude.

Arkaim is interesting not only as a historic monument. There is a great deal of evidence suggesting that it is one of the strongest anomaly zones in Russia. UFOs were observed in the area on several occasions shaped as light flashes, moving circles and fog clusters.

Tweet Print version Font Size Send to friendLocals believe it to be a sacred place. Pilgrims come here all year round to get some healing water from the Bolshaya Karaganka River, and in the summer they coat themselves with clay. They say it helps treating skin diseases.

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We were especially impressed by the so called Drunken Forest where nearly all trees have crooked trunks. It is interesting that there are burn marks on some trees in various places, but they do not look like lightning tracks. Possibly, there are crust fractures which promote the egress of energy flow that left the marks on the trees.

You have to be careful there because energy flows can affect the body both positively and negatively.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/07-06-2010/113680-arkaim-0/

[Lord Sidious]

We have a thread here on Avalon about Arkaim too.

[Calz]

We have a thread here on Avalon about Arkaim too.

Did not know dat ... thanks.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18785-Arkaim-ancient-Russian-city-and-psychic-hotspot&highlight=arkaim


And one for the other nugget you tossed out as well:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12373-Chinese-civilization-may-comes-from-Sumer&highlight=tocharians


Guess I should learn to look at home first eh?


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Just threw a post into both the above mentioned threads. Hopefully someone else here will see some value in doing some of the "footwork" necessary to encourage m'lord to share more of his wisdom?

[toothpick]

Anyone who has looked into the Summerian culture has to be amazed at what they see.
You have huge ornate rock carvings of these 10ft tall rulers with all kinds of headdresses.
These giants are depicted handing lowly man the first plow, there,s modern agriculture.
The next carving shows the giants handing lowly man a spinning wheel, the beginning of clothes.
And on and on it went, the first Language, mathematics, science, politics etc, etc.
So the Summerians went from a stone age community to a highly advanced one in a very short period of time.
And they kindly told us what happened, It Is writen in stone for all to see.
Winged discs came down from the heavans and departed much welcomed infornaton.
Zacharia Sitchen was a genious, sorry to hear he passed.

toothpick

[nomadguy]

OK. Chemtrails were developed by Edward Teller and are basically the seeding of thousands of tons of microparticles of aluminum on the upper atmosphere to try to increase the albedo of the planet, the reflectivity of the planet, because of global warming. Now, gold microparticles, real gold, were used once in a similar situation on another planet,

Chemtrails are the medium to direct/reflect electromagnetic waves which used by HAARP and other bad stuff. There are many ways of cutting down the temperature of Earth environmental friendly and cheaper.

Why they spread such toxic metal particles in atmosphere? The agenda behind it just makes me sick.

I think that is what chemtrails WERE originally, however things have changed and so have these so-called chemtrails and the observed effects. i think whomever is involved in that either is changing things or has learned and has made adjustments. - in any case the damage has been done - http://www.thetruthdenied.com/c2010/news.php

Lately I have observed plane literally appearing out of seemingly nowhere and then later disappearing. The trails of vapor/whatever it is persisting after. On theory I have always had is that these are cloaking or are dropping down into the atmosphere then up again.

[Carmody]

OK. Chemtrails were developed by Edward Teller and are basically the seeding of thousands of tons of microparticles of aluminum on the upper atmosphere to try to increase the albedo of the planet, the reflectivity of the planet, because of global warming. Now, gold microparticles, real gold, were used once in a similar situation on another planet,

Chemtrails are the medium to direct/reflect electromagnetic waves which used by HAARP and other bad stuff. There are many ways of cutting down the temperature of Earth environmental friendly and cheaper.

Why they spread such toxic metal particles in atmosphere? The agenda behind it just makes me sick.

I think that is what chemtrails WERE originally, however things have changed and so have these so-called chemtrails and the observed effects. i think whomever is involved in that either is changing things or has learned and has made adjustments. - in any case the damage has been done - http://www.thetruthdenied.com/c2010/news.php

Lately I have observed plane literally appearing out of seemingly nowhere and then later disappearing. The trails of vapor/whatever it is persisting after. On theory I have always had is that these are cloaking or are dropping down into the atmosphere then up again.

see my post in the recent chemtrails thread concerning holographic aspects of dumbbell sprayers.

I was a first hand witness and photographer.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20503-Chemtrails-don-t-exist&p=218865&viewfull=1#post218865

[D-Day]

For those interested, there's a wealth of Anunnaki-related research material to be found here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/1-anunnaki-main.html

... that should keep you all going for a while ;)

[DNA]

I was wondering if the large bones that have been found are Anunnaki?
Does anyone know?
Also is the Mayan headdress along with Anasazi have anything to do with the prefered dress of the Anunnaki?

OnyxKnight gave a fascinating portrayal of the Annunaki,,,saying that these giants with six fingers, six toes and an extra row of teeth were hybrids of annunaki/human.

OnyxKnight on the Annunaki post #149 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15909-My-ET-contact-experiences-(discussions-Q-A-panel-etc.)/page8) Is just an amazing post in my opinion and would benefit anyone interested in the Annunaki to further speculation on the issue

[kersley]

I would also like to hear more from OnyxKnight in regards to the Annunaki. What he says is more plausible than all the above statements. Of course that is just my opinion.

My view is that the Annunaki fought in space and won the territory of earth. they didn't want the natives to know what took place, so that we can be easily controlled.
Based on that. When they got here, we were already fully evolve intelligent human beings. They had a hand in our history but not our creator.

Watch this video for more info..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlgcJgn5N7k&feature=related

[edina]

Calz, and Lord Sid, this has piqued my curiosity, last year a woman on another site sent me info about Celtic History, because she said my name, edina, was the name of an ancient Celtic legendary warrioress. I didn't save any of her links. A part of what she shared with me was similarities in the Celtic language and that of some North American tribes. BTW, my name is completely made up, my mother made it up, she thought she was being original, only now, in these past few years have I begun to hear more about it as a real name.

I'll try to search this out, also, Lord Sidious, JRR Tolkein developed his language of the fairies from what he called the light languages, Celtic, Gaelic, and Finnish. Do you consider these cultures connected to the ET Nordics, and is this the connection to the Anunnuaki that may be coming our way?

Also, Anastasia of the Ringing Cedar series talked of a global civilisation, and refers to herself as Vedic, one of the you tubes that Calz posted makes a vedic connection, too.
In some of my research I have been able to see traces of this global civilisation all over the planet, it is marked by a very close relationship with Man and Nature. Anastasia capitalises Man.

The Russian and Sanskrit languages are still so closely aligned that one who speaks either can easily understand the other. Sanskrit is also considered another language of light. I'll try to track down the info my friend shared with me and post it here and in the other Thread.

Calz - Yo:hand:u've been quite a bit of questing here, thanks for your efforts and for getting this posted!!!

[Lord Sidious]

Calz, and Lord Sid, this has piqued my curiosity, last year a woman on another site sent me info about Celtic History, because she said my name, edina, was the name of an ancient Celtic legendary warrioress. I didn't save any of her links. A part of what she shared with me was similarities in the Celtic language and that of some North American tribes. BTW, my name is completely made up, my mother made it up, she thought she was being original, only now, in these past few years have I begun to hear more about it as a real name.

I'll try to search this out, also, Lord Sidious, JRR Tolkein developed his language of the fairies from what he called the light languages, Celtic, Gaelic, and Finnish. Do you consider these cultures connected to the ET Nordics, and is this the connection to the Anunnuaki that may be coming our way?

Also, Anastasia of the Ringing Cedar series talked of a global civilisation, and refers to herself as Vedic, one of the you tubes that Calz posted makes a vedic connection, too.
In some of my research I have been able to see traces of this global civilisation all over the planet, it is marked by a very close relationship with Man and Nature. Anastasia capitalises Man.

The Russian and Sanskrit languages are still so closely aligned that one who speaks either can easily understand the other. Sanskrit is also considered another language of light. I'll try to track down the info my friend shared with me and post it here and in the other Thread.

Calz - Yo:hand:u've been quite a bit of questing here, thanks for your efforts and for getting this posted!!!

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

[edina]

Thanks, Lord Sidious, here is another interesting bit I found, that ties the Irish, perhaps Celts, to Ea, or Enki

The Blue Stones of Atlantis - Ireland and the Lost Tribe of E.A. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%2Fsumer_anunnaki%2Fesp_sumer_annunaki13.htm&rct=j&q=bibliotecapleyades%20irish%20&ei=fArTTc-eK4G7qgGZh_nEDQ&usg=AFQjCNGnd0LpMzMp98Oj3t3TeZOTLaWk1A&cad=rja)

"Surfing the Net one night last fall, a few days after publication of my latest Atlantis Rising article, “Secrets of the Cathars” (Num. 36, November/December 2002), my pulse suddenly quickened. My article connected the genocide of the Cathars or Pure Ones of Southern France, the secret teachings of Jesus and the supernatural blue stones of the Sumerian creator god Enki or E.A that open stargates and cause enlightenment."

I had not heard that the Finnish language was closely related to Korean, my understanding is that it's closest lingual relatives is Hawaiin, and a unusual language located in Hungary. The people and the language seem oddly disconnected from their place.

What has got me most curious is how the clues you have left seem to point toward a Keltic influence at least across the Northern Hemisphere. This article points to this as well as the Anunnaki connection.

[edina]

Here is another, the Irish Origins of Civilisation by Michael Tsarion (http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/book1_chap10.html). This one mentions some of the language similarities with the Algonquian Tribes, and also ties everything back in to Egypt, and Sumer.


And of course, there is always the Kolbrin, with the Egyptian and Celtic portions, still related,

[nomadguy]

Calz, and Lord Sid, this has piqued my curiosity, last year a woman on another site sent me info about Celtic History, because she said my name, edina, was the name of an ancient Celtic legendary warrioress. I didn't save any of her links. A part of what she shared with me was similarities in the Celtic language and that of some North American tribes. BTW, my name is completely made up, my mother made it up, she thought she was being original, only now, in these past few years have I begun to hear more about it as a real name.

I'll try to search this out, also, Lord Sidious, JRR Tolkein developed his language of the fairies from what he called the light languages, Celtic, Gaelic, and Finnish. Do you consider these cultures connected to the ET Nordics, and is this the connection to the Anunnuaki that may be coming our way?

Also, Anastasia of the Ringing Cedar series talked of a global civilisation, and refers to herself as Vedic, one of the you tubes that Calz posted makes a vedic connection, too.
In some of my research I have been able to see traces of this global civilisation all over the planet, it is marked by a very close relationship with Man and Nature. Anastasia capitalises Man.

The Russian and Sanskrit languages are still so closely aligned that one who speaks either can easily understand the other. Sanskrit is also considered another language of light. I'll try to track down the info my friend shared with me and post it here and in the other Thread.

Calz - Yo:hand:u've been quite a bit of questing here, thanks for your efforts and for getting this posted!!!

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

from a conversation a few moments ago, and what about the so called lost tribe of israel?

[Lord Sidious]

Calz, and Lord Sid, this has piqued my curiosity, last year a woman on another site sent me info about Celtic History, because she said my name, edina, was the name of an ancient Celtic legendary warrioress. I didn't save any of her links. A part of what she shared with me was similarities in the Celtic language and that of some North American tribes. BTW, my name is completely made up, my mother made it up, she thought she was being original, only now, in these past few years have I begun to hear more about it as a real name.

I'll try to search this out, also, Lord Sidious, JRR Tolkein developed his language of the fairies from what he called the light languages, Celtic, Gaelic, and Finnish. Do you consider these cultures connected to the ET Nordics, and is this the connection to the Anunnuaki that may be coming our way?

Also, Anastasia of the Ringing Cedar series talked of a global civilisation, and refers to herself as Vedic, one of the you tubes that Calz posted makes a vedic connection, too.
In some of my research I have been able to see traces of this global civilisation all over the planet, it is marked by a very close relationship with Man and Nature. Anastasia capitalises Man.

The Russian and Sanskrit languages are still so closely aligned that one who speaks either can easily understand the other. Sanskrit is also considered another language of light. I'll try to track down the info my friend shared with me and post it here and in the other Thread.

Calz - Yo:hand:u've been quite a bit of questing here, thanks for your efforts and for getting this posted!!!

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

from a conversation a few moments ago, and what about the so called lost tribe of israel?

I am not sure I believe in all that.

[SteveX]

--------SNIPPED

But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.



Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011


Hardly any of it according to those with the credentials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin

[RedeZra]

Let's look at the Mesopotamian creation myth - Enuma Elish- and read the raw data about the Anunnaki as it is written in these clay tablets...


http://www.ancient.eu.com/article/225/

86 Every one of the Anunnaki was kissing his [Marduk/Be-l] feet.

17 Marduk assembled the great gods,
18 Using gracious direction as he gave his order,
19 As he spoke the gods heeded him:
20 The king addressed a word to the Anunnaki,
21 "Your former oath was true indeed,
22 (Now also) tell me the solemn truth:
23 Who is the one who instigated warfare,
24 Who made Tia-mat rebel, and set battle in motion?
25 Let him who instigated warfare be given up
26 That I may lay his punishment on him; but you sit and rest.
27 The Igigi, the great gods, answered him,
28 That is, Lugaldimmerankia, the counsellor of the gods, the lord,
29 "Qingu is the one who instigated warfare,
30 Who made Tia-mat rebel and set battle in motion."
31 They bound him, holding him before Ea,
32 They inflicted the penalty on him and severed his blood-vessels.
33 From his blood he (Ea) created mankind,
34 On whom he imposed the service of the gods, and set the gods free.
35 After the wise Ea had created mankind
36 And had imposed the service of the gods upon them—
37 That task is beyond comprehension
38 For Nudimmud performed the creation with the skill of Marduk—
39 King Marduk divided the gods,
40 All the Anunnaki into upper and lower groups.
41 He assigned 300 in the heavens to guard the decrees of Anu
42 And appointed them as a guard.
43 Next he arranged the organization of the netherworld.
44 In heaven and netherworld he stationed 600 gods.
45 After he had arranged all the decrees,
46 And had distributed incomes among the Anunnaki of heaven and netherworld,
47 The Anunnaki opened their mouths
48 And addressed their lord Marduk,
49 "Now, lord, seeing you have established our freedom
50 What favour can we do for you?
51 Let us make a shrine of great renown:
52 Your chamber will be our resting place wherein we may repose.
53 Let us erect a shrine to house a pedestal
54 Wherein we may repose when we finish (the work)."
55 When Marduk heard this,
56 He beamed as brightly as the light of day,
57 "Build Babylon, the task you have sought.
58 Let bricks for it be moulded, and raise the shrine!"
59 The Anunnaki wielded the pick.
60 For one year they made the needed bricks.
61 When the second year arrived,
62 They raised the peak of Esagil, a replica of the Apsû.
63 They built the lofty temple tower of the Apsû
64 And for Anu, Enlil, and Ea they established its . . as a dwelling.
65 He sat in splendour before them,
66 Suveying its horns, which were level with the base of Ešarra.
67 After they had completed the work on Esagil
68 All the Anunnaki constructed their own shrines.
69 {300 Igigi of heaven and 600 of the Apsû, all of them, had assembled.}
70 Be-l seated the gods, his fathers, at the banquet
71 In the lofty shrine which they had built for his dwelling,
72 (Saying,) "This is Babylon, your fixed dwelling,
73 Take your pleasure here! Sit down in joy!
74 The great gods sat down,

http://www.ancient.eu.com/article/225/


As can be derived from the text the Anunnaki helped Be-l build the Tower of Babel in Babylon ; )


Are they the Nephilim ?

the sons of Anak (Anakim) who come from the Nephilim - Numbers 13:33

the giant offspring of the 'sons of God' and the 'daughters of men'

Yes so it seems




Gilgamesh

http://destinationterre2.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/98-019561_gilgamesh.jpg

it's not a cub in his hand but a full grown lion !

[araucaria]

This may be a good place to ask for help with something that has been puzzling me for some time, something from our friend Bob Dean. Bob quotes his 'good friend Zecharia Stichin' about the return of Nibiru by 2017 I think, whereas Sitchin categorically puts this several hundred years in the future.So I would like to know, first, how and why this discrepancy could have arisen, and secondly just how and why the Nibiru scenario is to be ruled out altogther (something I am quite happy with btw).

[K626]

This may be a good place to ask for help with something that has been puzzling me for some time, something from our friend Bob Dean. Bob quotes his 'good friend Zecharia Stichin' about the return of Nibiru by 2017 I think, whereas Sitchin categorically puts this several hundred years in the future.So I would like to know, first, how and why this discrepancy could have arisen, and secondly just how and why the Nibiru scenario is to be ruled out altogther (something I am quite happy with btw).

IMHO Sitchen basically made up a lot of long stories based on very little evidence, which made the stuff entertaining and thought provoking to read but was factually scant.

I don't belive in the Annunaki as actual beings either.


Peace

K

[kersley]

This may be a good place to ask for help with something that has been puzzling me for some time, something from our friend Bob Dean. Bob quotes his 'good friend Zecharia Stichin' about the return of Nibiru by 2017 I think, whereas Sitchin categorically puts this several hundred years in the future.So I would like to know, first, how and why this discrepancy could have arisen, and secondly just how and why the Nibiru scenario is to be ruled out altogther (something I am quite happy with btw).

IMHO Sicken basically made up a lot of long stories based on very little evidence, which made the stuff entertaining and thought provoking to read but was factually scant.

I don't belive in the Annunaki as actual beings either.


Peace

K

I hear you loud and clear. There isn't any Sumerian tablets that say's The Annunaki's came from planet Nibiru. If there is, show it to me along with the translation saying so.
I have read all of Sitchin's books. In my view the best is.. The lost book of Enki. But if you took what Sitchin say's as truth.. There is no need to ask any more questions about Earth history.
Sitchin should have won the awards for the best fiction books ever. The Sitchin books should have been made into a blockbuster movie.

[freespirit]

I don't belive in the Annunaki as actual beings either.


Peace

K



This one tickled me>

'Enki's journey to Nibru: c.1.1.4
In the shrine of Nibru, Enki provided a meal for Enlil, his father. He seated An at the head of the table and seated Enlil next to An. He seated Nintur in the place of honour and seated the Anuna gods at the adjacent places (?). All of them were drinking and enjoying beer and liquor. They filled the bronze aga vessels to the brim and started a competition, drinking from the bronze vessels of Uraš. They made the tilimda vessels shine like holy barges. After beer and liquor had been libated and enjoyed, and after …… from the house, Enlil was made happy in Nibru.'

No change they then.

Publication history

This is the second edition of the Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature (ETCSL). The first edition, less comprehensive and without linguistic annotation, is also accessible: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/index1.htm.
http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/

[Snowbird]

There is a very interesting video interview of Tricia McCannon by Regina of Conscious Media Network (CMN).

I watched this recently and Tricia changed my opinion about the Anunnaki. I have included her bio below because she has spent years performing research on this very subject and many others. She states that the Anunnaki are as Bill stated, those who came to earth from another place. They are extremely tall and they are human beings. One of our years equals 3,600 of their years. These are oldie oldies.

She said that around 2100 BC, the Anunnaki withdrew their influence from the earth. The reason is because the two oldest sons of Enki (Africa area), Marduk Ra and Enlil (Mesopotamia area), Ninhurta Jehovah(sp?), went to war with each other. These two taught humans on this earth how to war. They bombed the Sinai Peninsula. Jerusalem had been the original space station.

There was another very interesting thing that she said. The Anunnaki care about the people of this earth. And that they have thousands if not millions of ships surrounding the earth for peaceful purposes. She said that some of these ships are a thousand miles in diameter.

My question? What are they for?

Tricia McCannon - bio

http://www.triciamccannonspeaks.com/biopage.html

[sirac]

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

interesting.....
I don't get as-much time to read here as I should....
so I'll just ask anyone....."Who are Aryans again?"
...something like ... ancient white-man tribe on earth ...(whom hitler claimed his men were.... so from that whoever the Aryans were they also have descendents amongst the Germans)...largely responsible for Indo-European base language.........<am i in the right area?

its than a misnomer to state
nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here"
as nordics are obviously alien to this planet.... we cannot say they are descended from an earth tribe,....but that they share common genetic lineage perhaps

{blah the celts (and native americans) proclaimed for their spiritual abilities...other bloodlines of this earth also have unique things...just my personal opinion}

interesting Ld. Sidious what you have to say about the Finns.
very interesting.... cause i do know about the Koreans that their language group is isolated..............if u the 1st to notice a general common characteristic then we should patent you with it, cause i haven't casually read that in anything academic.
..i think they do say of the koreans, that their closest genetic link is with the Turks........... koreans...they are of the ivory 3 asian grouping...chinese, japanese & korean, but quite different/defined by their physical characteristics.

for the Finns, would u posit them as amongst the Schandinavian group,
or slightly independent from it?

[Calz]

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

interesting.....
I don't get as-much time to read here as I should....
so I'll just ask anyone....."Who are Aryans again?"
...something like ... ancient white-man tribe on earth ...(whom hitler claimed his men were.... so from that whoever the Aryans were they also have descendents amongst the Germans)...largely responsible for Indo-European base language.........<am i in the right area?

its than a misnomer to state
nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here"
as nordics are obviously alien to this planet.... we cannot say they are descended from an earth tribe,....but that they share common genetic lineage perhaps

{blah the celts (and native americans) proclaimed for their spiritual abilities...other bloodlines of this earth also have unique things...just my personal opinion}

interesting Ld. Sidious what you have to say about the Finns.
very interesting.... cause i do know about the Koreans that their language group is isolated..............if u the 1st to notice a general common characteristic then we should patent you with it, cause i haven't casually read that in anything academic.
..i think they do say of the koreans, that their closest genetic link is with the Turks........... koreans...they are of the ivory 3 asian grouping...chinese, japanese & korean, but quite different/defined by their physical characteristics.

for the Finns, would u posit them as amongst the Schandinavian group,
or slightly independent from it?

The Aryan portion of several threads converged (with L'Sid orchestrating the nugget trail) to here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20586-Has-white-man-colonised-planet-Earth

Excellent thread but not a "quickie read" ... you need to roll up your sleeves and dig in if you want the meat :)

[Seikou-Kishi]

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

Actually, Sid, while the Finnish language may be related to Estonian and Hungarian (not Korean lol), the Finns themselves are actually almost entirely of Swedish stock; as the Swedes moved in and gradually displaced the original Finns, the language remained but not the chromosomes. The Finns are ethnically Nordic too.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I did some research for a novel (based on fact) that I wrote several years ago and here's some of what I came up with:

Sumer was similar to the Egyptian culture in that it appeared out of nowhere in tact with language, laws and artisans with highly developed skills and their language bears no relationship to any of the ancient languages in the area. (which one could say is in keeping with Sitchin's claims of relationship with Anunnaki's)

Based on grammatical structure, Sumerian language is closest to the Hungarian language.

The Sumerians depicted their gods as half man, half fish.

The Royal Dragon Court of Hungary (which like the Masons, has morphed thru the years) originally claimed their genealogy can be traced back to the bloodline of Jesus and that something in the blood is 'different' from the bloodlines of others.

Through my own meditation I was told that all language has been sound coded and that the words have become too concrete.

[Lord Sidious]

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

Actually, Sid, while the Finnish language may be related to Estonian and Hungarian (not Korean lol), the Finns themselves are actually almost entirely of Swedish stock; as the Swedes moved in and gradually displaced the original Finns, the language remained but not the chromosomes. The Finns are ethnically Nordic too.

You might wanna check up on that Olivernugget.
The finns, and not sami, have their own legends about coming from elsewhere, like the norse do, but I am not sure where the finns think they came from.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Don't confuse nordics with the aryans.
The nordics may be the closest descendants of the aryans here, but not the only ones.
With the celts, I would say they are of the aryans, the finns, not.
They are actually a different culture probably from asia. The closest language to theirs is korean.

The vedas contain a lot of info about ancient history, although I am not an expert on them and my knowledge of them is scant.

Actually, Sid, while the Finnish language may be related to Estonian and Hungarian (not Korean lol), the Finns themselves are actually almost entirely of Swedish stock; as the Swedes moved in and gradually displaced the original Finns, the language remained but not the chromosomes. The Finns are ethnically Nordic too.

You might wanna check up on that Olivernugget.
The finns, and not sami, have their own legends about coming from elsewhere, like the norse do, but I am not sure where the finns think they came from.

I have checked on it. Recent tests on the Finnish population, using Y-chromosomal and Mitochondrial DNA revealed that the Finns are ethnically Swedish. The mytholgy and language came from people related to the Estonians and the Hungarians, but they themselves are not genetically descended, at least in the majority, from those peoples, who have either died out or were vastly outnumbered and assimilated into the general population.

[shadowstalker]

This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.
This explains how he knew more then most translators, thank you for confirming my belief in his over whelming knowledge of that particular group Bill..

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9O0m8HtCVk&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADO_qa6JMy8&NR=1


I have review this serie of 24 episodes, which I find very Informative.
Namasté

[ghostrider]

just a little brainfood, could the ET's have the ability to alter our perception of reality, project images into our mind?

[shadowstalker]

just a little brainfood, could the ET's have the ability to alter our perception of reality, project images into our mind?

Yes some can, but i personally could not tell you which ones..

[Lord Sidious]

just a little brainfood, could the ET's have the ability to alter our perception of reality, project images into our mind?

Yes some can, but i personally could not tell you which ones..

The gnostics spoke of archons.

[ozlemer]

whenever i think of the Annunaki, i think of the creatures presented in the movie(s) 'Predator'. it's likely because i tend to associate them with the reptilians (Bill, really looking forward to your answer to arc's 3rd question - Annunaki/reptilian relationship)

one thing that has always confused me is, with the exception of the first 'Predator' starring Arnold Schwartzenegger, the rest have been imo pretty mediocre and lacking in star actors. i've never really heard a clamoring for 'Predator' sequels, and yet, they just keep churning them out.

Watch that film Predator again. I think it's alien vs predator. it tells a story how the predators came to earth and ruled over us, building pyramids, creating the mayan civilisation and we are just game to them..
Not a nice bunch. Who ever wrote that film must have based it on Sitchins work. 100% sure of that.

Totally agree with you...

[ozlemer]

I have been trying to figure out and understand a few things about the Anunnaki based on the patchy information "out there". Bill's opening report adds some new insights. Still I have some questions - if anyone can add any answers, or even well thought out speculation.

1) Are the Anunnaki one race? or a civilization of more than one race??
2) Are the Anunnaki a race of humans? - larger in stature, and more advanced, but genetically human, or human-oid?
3) What is the relationship with Reptilian races? Are the Anunnaki related to them? Are they competing/warring/cooperating with them? Do they interact??? I have heard some call Anunnaki as Reptilians, but from what I read they are human-like - that is why I am confused.
4) Is there Anunnaki bloodlines/ancestory within the current human genome?
5) Are multiple ET races shaping Earth history and future - and are they working together, competing, or warring?? And where do the Anunnaki fit in this big picture??
6) Are the PTB (or PTW), or factions of, allied with Anunnaki? Are the PTB, divided based on other ET alliances? Or are they all unified, or party to a 'treaty' on a larger scale??

I would appreciate any relevant and credible answers if know. Perhaps this is a puzzle we are all trying to piece together...

This might answer some of your questions :

History
Rizq is said to be the eighth planet of a three-sun system, with 38 moons and 19 planets, called Illyuwn. The three suns are called Utu, Shamash and Apsu (these are also the names of Mesopotamian gods):

Rizq has a very abstract orbit. It goes past Utu first and around to Shamash and up and around to Apsu and back to Utu. The three suns are also moving. The whole motion looks like an atom. As it passes by these 3 suns, it goes through 3 nights in one day. There is a certain point that is called the “Bright Day” where the light from all three suns shine on the planet from all sides, however, this is also the most dangerous point for the planet.
Rizq has three continents (Darnuriyya, Kusmusta, and Zarantu), and three “dimensions”. There is also a biosphere on in each continent

Rizqiyians

A person from Rizq is called a “Rizqiyian”. Rizqiyians are childless, physical beings that endeavor to become Etherians (energy or light beings, angels).
Among the inhabitants of Rizq are reptilians, Dinneer, Etherians, visitors from other planets, and two types of dracos (who live mainly in Darnuriyya or in the seas and who are not native to Rizq): the Markabians-Reticulans and the Maldekians.

Whenever a Human is brought to Rizq they are put in a biosphere on the conitnent of Zarantu which is where Enoch spent some time and also Jesus who was half-human and half-Rizqiyian.

The Anunnaqi Eloheem
Rizq was home to the Anunnaqi Eloheem, who came to earth and played a role in the creation of humans, who represent them in various ways in their mythologies.
These Anunnaqi Eloheem came from Rizq to Earth to find gold and other resources for Rizq. Rizq had been attacked in the course of a galactic civil war, and had lost its protective ozone layer, and so needed gold to construct a dome to protect its inhabitants from intense solar radiation.

They had 30-mile-long transport ships that they constructed relatively locally on Mars and the dark side of the Moon, and a planet-sized ship called “Nibiru”, two-or-three times the size of the Earth, which is capable of light-speed travel.

These Rizqiyians first stopped at a planet called Kesiyl in the Orion constellation, where they were attacked by Reptilians. Then they sent out android scouts to find a gold-rich planet, Earth. They set up bases on the Moon and on Mars (the Martian canals were said to have been built then), and began to extract gold to send back to Rizq.

Cheers.

[nosgib]

I feel that it is time for a change of thinking with UFO'S
Aliens etc.....with a new mindset.
ie. We were created and so were they...Its just that their development is (was) superior to ours, as they have a different mindset to us. But a mindset that we have to aim for, to receive the new technology that is to come.
Their Society -- Dare I suggest would be free from murder. But having said that where there is good there is evil, so what form the latter would take I'm not sure.
[haven't been told]
However there is little on this planet that they would need. (with the exception of some fun)
The reason I say that is (as a metaphor) trying to clone a society to the extreme can make life boring.
Today is happy day! Go and have one ?? Give me a break.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I feel that it is time for a change of thinking with UFO'S
Aliens etc.....with a new mindset.
ie. We were created and so were they...Its just that their development is (was) superior to ours, as they have a different mindset to us. But a mindset that we have to aim for, to receive the new technology that is to come.
Their Society -- Dare I suggest would be free from murder. But having said that where there is good there is evil, so what form the latter would take I'm not sure.
[haven't been told]
However there is little on this planet that they would need. (with the exception of some fun)
The reason I say that is (as a metaphor) trying to clone a society to the extreme can make life boring.
Today is happy day! Go and have one ?? Give me a break.

Break over nosgib!...... actually I have had the same thoughts. Why would they want to bother with us? But then why do some of us like to go to horror movies? which is what this planet must look like to a spiritually advanced race.

But as we know, technologically advanced does not necessarily mean spiritually advanced. For example, indigenous tribes can often be more intuitively advanced than say the U.S., and it would be hard for them to understand why we, who are more technologically advanced want to come in and bomb their country to get oil or other natural resources.

Is it possible that some ET races have become so left-brain thinking that their right-brain has been diminished to the point of inactivation?

[MariaDine]

just a little brainfood, could the ET's have the ability to alter our perception of reality, project images into our mind?

Yes some can, but i personally could not tell you which ones..

The gnostics spoke of archons.

Archons in the Gnostic «Lore» were suppose to refere the «Thrones of God». I say were, because the information was adulterated and it was given a dark, devilish facet to these primal manifestations of the Source . So they are not Et's. But the «Sons of God« ,creators of the several universes existing in the Omniverse.

Archon ...from Arche (ἀρχή) is a Greek word with primary senses 'beginning', 'origin' or 'first cause' and 'power', 'sovereignty', 'domination' as extended meanings. This list is extended to 'ultimate underlying substance' and 'ultimate undemonstrable principle'

[take]

[QUOTE=Lord Sidious;228134][QUOTE=Oliver S;228030][QUOTE=Lord Sidious;221682]

I have checked on it. Recent tests on the Finnish population, using Y-chromosomal and Mitochondrial DNA revealed that the Finns are ethnically Swedish. The mytholgy and language came from people related to the Estonians and the Hungarians, but they themselves are not genetically descended, at least in the majority, from those peoples, who have either died out or were vastly outnumbered and assimilated into the general population.

Hi, actually it's not that simple. No-one knows where the finns came from. It's like asking where did all the europeans come from.. You can PM me if you wish to discuss this more.

:focus:

About Sitchin.. This is starting to sound a little bit like a religion.. or at least just a belief system to me. Here's one view to the story, someone has to link this here: http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/ If someone can debunk the debunker, please do and let me know.

Peace.

[ghostrider]

if God created adam and eve, we should all look alike, and there should be one race. three quarters of the world has dark hair dark skin and dark eyes. hmmm? indians, arabic, chinese, japanese, korean, egyptians, spanish, mexican, eskimo, african, somebody tampered with our DNA is the only conclusion.

[jcocks]

just a little brainfood, could the ET's have the ability to alter our perception of reality, project images into our mind?

I know this may be considered O/T by some...but has anyone been watching the most recent episodes of Dr Who perchance??

The first two episodes this season dealt with a race of aliens called "the silence", who had been on Earth for many years secretly influencing society behind-the-scenes. They were able to erase the memories of anyone who saw them.

Especially recently, I am starting to think that Dr Who is being used as a channel to expose the public to many ideas under the guise of of sci-fi, as so many of the ideas we're mentioning are turning up on that show....

My personal take on the current state of things is that there is a war going on for the human soul, which has been going on for a very long time, but went up a notch with the advent of World War Two..
Forget the public war, focus instead on the beliefs of the Nazi party and Hitler. Understand that this war did not end with the end of World War two. In fact, it was only really the beginning.

In this war, there are no earth-based factions, only pawns. Many of us so-called lightworkers that believe we came from elsewhere to help are in essence soldiers incarnated here to fight the war from within.....

I think this war will soon ratchet up yet another notch to reach trhe end-game phase, and wwe should watch Egypt closely...

[Lord Sidious]

just a little brainfood, could the ET's have the ability to alter our perception of reality, project images into our mind?

I know this may be considered O/T by some...but has anyone been watching the most recent episodes of Dr Who perchance??

The first two episodes this season dealt with a race of aliens called "the silence", who had been on Earth for many years secretly influencing society behind-the-scenes. They were able to erase the memories of anyone who saw them.

Especially recently, I am starting to think that Dr Who is being used as a channel to expose the public to many ideas under the guise of of sci-fi, as so many of the ideas we're mentioning are turning up on that show....

My personal take on the current state of things is that there is a war going on for the human soul, which has been going on for a very long time, but went up a notch with the advent of World War Two..
Forget the public war, focus instead on the beliefs of the Nazi party and Hitler. Understand that this war did not end with the end of World War two. In fact, it was only really the beginning.

In this war, there are no earth-based factions, only pawns. Many of us so-called lightworkers that believe we came from elsewhere to help are in essence soldiers incarnated here to fight the war from within.....

I think this war will soon ratchet up yet another notch to reach trhe end-game phase, and wwe should watch Egypt closely...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tenth_Planet
In this show, the planet Mondas drifted back into our solar system in 1986, which was 20 years after this was transmitted.
In 1986, there was a very brief mention of a planet being seen heading in this direction.
So I would agree, some of the stuff in Dr Who appears to be conditioning.
None of you avalonuggets better be trying to get the TARDIS before me, I will shoot force lightning up your clackers. :p

[Fred Steeves]

The gnostics spoke of archons.

That deserves it's own thread. Sneakier than termites.

Cheers,
Fred

[slave1zero]

Thanks for the information Bill, very informative!

[observer]

Among the many individuals Bill has interviewed, only a handful can give the perspective on the evidential trail that Dr. Joseph P. Farrell has to offer.

It would be well advised to those members who have so much to say, yet provide such little content, to spend some of their time researching the wealth of evidence Dr. Farrell has to offer. The interviews furnished on the below link are a good place to start, including stardustaquarion's suggested reviews.


Joseph Farrell does think that Sitchin is not 100 pct accurate and it is worth reviewing his books. Here there are hours of interviews that Farrell has done on the Byte show http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

Particularly relevant to the Anunnaki are Genes Giants Monsters And Men and Cosmic War

In Genes Giants Monsters And Men Farrell poses the question of ownership of the human race that is certainly thought provoking

Cheers

Here also are links to several of Dr. Farrell's books (free online):

"The Giza Death Star"
http://books.google.com/books?id=nzaiviPoS5oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=OhWPHVDLsS&sig=z2Bl95XTlkZpSXZ5iOT9_N-mw7E&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=12&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q&f=false

"The Giza Death Star Deployed"
http://books.google.com/books?id=1yPOhLagyaAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+giza+death&source=bll&ots=np_WVH26aw&sig=k1XNoKyi-8uzDDktEvhSIfEWEFU&hl=en&ei=mWqCTbGaCYLKgQf9xsDBCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CG8Q6AEwDA#v=onepage&q&f=false

"Reich Of The Black Sun"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/reichblacksun/contents.htm#Contents

"Genes, Giants, Monsters, and Men"
http://books.google.com/books?id=HVl7mAXc0wcC&pg=PA249&dq=%22Genes,+Giants,+Monsters,+and+Men%22+Dr.+Joseph+farrell&hl=en&ei=DSrkTeS1JoPg0QHqjImuBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Genes%2C%20Giants%2C%20Monsters%2C%20and%20Men%22%20Dr.%20Joseph%20farrell&f=false
(Note: This link starts with the back cover - scroll up for the text)

.... And, here's a link to Bill's interview with Dr. Farrell:
http://projectcamelot.org/joseph_farrell.html

Just a few to get you started on the right track.

[mmfk]

Hi,

has anyone read the latest NEXUS Magazine yet?

(There is a separate thread on John Lash and more on metahistory on the forum, for those who haven't seen it yet - I just found out, but deem it valuable to reference.)

One article links to its longer version on metahistory.org by John Lash and basically says that e.g. compared to the Nag Hammadi Codices, older texts such as Enki, etc. are a deliberate deception by the alien masters and their servants (theocrats, scholars...) and that one should differentiate between the 'good' serpentine wisdom intrinsic to humans and the negative draconian agenda, as they have to deceive in order to be in power.

I just wanted to mention that and give another external input/opinion on this subject

Best wishes,
Matthias

[Anno]

[...]one should differentiate between the 'good' serpentine wisdom intrinsic to humans and the negative draconian agenda, as they have to deceive in order to be in power.[...]


I believe it's far more likely that only some of the reptilians are negative. You do see that come up every now and then but we're mostly brainwashed to think they're all bad. I suspect that's so if any good ones come to help, we simply won't trust them.
I can see it working as a two way thing.

The bad reptilians tell the good ones that we're ignorant animals. The good ones come, we turn on them thinking they're bad, they then say "wow yeah, they are ignorant animals, carry on."

I don't believe that any being, let alone any race, can be all bad or all good.

[mountain_jim]

I just watched the first 2 episodes of Dr Who from this season this weekend, and also thought the current 'monsters' mentioned above was relevant and interesting.

[wynderer]

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He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.



Hey Bill, I had never heard this part. Would this meeting have taken place on Earth or on Mars ? I remember Henri Deacon talking with some emotion about the good things that were being done on Mars (without giving details though). Does this imply the influence of the friendly to humans faction of these Annunaki? Or am I "in the moon" suggesting this? :)

The meeting was on Earth. :)

As Kerry and I understood from Henry, 6,000 years after Sumerian times there were now two factions of the Anunnaki: those that were friendly, and those what were not. (He said, as I recall, that there was a degree of conflict between the two.)

thank you for your original & informative post, Bill -- but i don't believe there are Annunaki who are friendly to Humans -- if i am incorrect, & there are friendly ones, it would appear that they have no power here on Earth, & that the hostiles are proceeding w/their plan of destruction & control unopposed [i would be very happy to be proved wrong in this belief]

[scifiscriptwriter]

.. info tampering .. a good point. I think everything's so much older than we realize - if civilizations were periodically 'almost' wiped out say, by comets, supervolcano's etc. it would be child's play for a technically advanced race to manipulate info/history to suit their own ends.

[Anno]

.. info tampering .. a good point. I think everything's so much older than we realize - if civilizations were periodically 'almost' wiped out say, by comets, supervolcano's etc. it would be child's play for a technically advanced race to manipulate info/history to suit their own ends.

It seems to be a natural process that occurs, timed with the precession of the equinoxes. At the moment I'm liking Crust Displacement Theory. It makes more sense that polar tilts and godsent deluges. If Earth is indeed a living being, it would make sense that it would have a renewal cycle.

[agentofchange]

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Dear All,

I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is: :)

Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.

They are 8-9 feet tall [2.4 - 2.7m], and like dressing up in ceremonial costumes (including headdresses), which are colorful, flamboyant, ornate, and ceremonial. Their culture goes back to 100,000 years or more, and they attach a great importance to tradition, ritual, ceremony and symbols.

They have large heads with a pronounced jaw and are physically very strong. They also have enhanced mental abilities and can certainly operate effectively in the astral realms. But their technology (spacecraft, and ability to manipulate space and time) is also very advanced.

They certainly do not ride around on an icy, rocky planetoid ("Nibiru") waiting patiently for it to return near Earth every 3,600 years. They have their own spacecraft. Henry Deacon said they looked a little like this (the 'wings' retract and are ornamental):

http://projectavalon.net/Winged_craft_similar_to_Anunnaki.jpg

They were here in Sumerian times, about 6,000 years ago, when they arrived on Earth to 'jump-start' the Sumerian civilization which had always puzzled archeologists inasmuch as it seemed to arise out of a much more primitive culture, almost literally overnight.

Suddenly, the Sumerians had law, government, education, finance, literature, music, and everything that we would assume as a necessary part of a healthy civilized society.

The Anunnaki attach a great deal of importance to administration, laws, finance, agreements, and very complex administrative structures. Much of what has become imported into human societies as royal ceremony, pyramidal hierarchies, levels of initiation within secret societies, and all the attached complex symbolism, much of which has high traditional significance but which can also be deliberately obscure to the casual observer, can all be traced back to Anunnaki influence.

In present time, they are active on Mars, and this has been reported by Project Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_3.html#Mars) (pseudonym), who saw them at first hand. Henry said that since Sumerian times, the Anunnaki race has split into two factions - one friendly to humans and the other less so.

He hinted strongly that the less friendly race has acquired a taste for human flesh. He described how when he was working for black projects as an electronics engineer, he was invited to a briefing in which this topic was presented. He walked out in disgust, and was amazed that (a) no-one stopped him from leaving, and (b) he was the only person who walked out.

According to Zecharia Sitchin (recently passed) - who 'translated' many ancient Sumerian texts - and whose work has been dismissed by conventional archeologists but widely accepted among the alternative community - one reason the Anunnaki came to Planet Earth was to mine gold, which they had a strong desire for and attributed a great deal of value and importance to. It's possible that our own love and value and fascination for gold in the present day is a throwback to the attitude introduced by the Anunnaki.

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.



Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011


Your "concise report" does not say where the information comes from apart from mentioning Henry Deacon, who still is using his pseudonym and not wanting to own his own identity, says what the space ships look like and that he saw the Annunaki on mars. Your other author of this information you say actually channelled all the info in his many books!!! How concise is concise Bill. Has your attitude to channelling now changed somewhat?

[Carmody]

Your "concise report" does not say where the information comes from apart from mentioning Henry Deacon, who still is using his pseudonym and not wanting to own his own identity, says what the space ships look like and that he saw the Annunaki on mars. Your other author of this information you say actually channelled all the info in his many books!!! How concise is concise Bill. Has your attitude to channelling now changed somewhat?

This may provide interesting reading:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17872-The-question-of-Lithium


Also, follow my recent contributions in this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21828-What-IS-this-creature-we-saw-!

The situation seems complex as not all the data required for discernment is available...... and some of it is quite uncomfortable.

[agentofchange]

Your "concise report" does not say where the information comes from apart from mentioning Henry Deacon, who still is using his pseudonym and not wanting to own his own identity, says what the space ships look like and that he saw the Annunaki on mars. Your other author of this information you say actually channelled all the info in his many books!!! How concise is concise Bill. Has your attitude to channelling now changed somewhat?

This may provide interesting reading:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17872-The-question-of-Lithium


Also, follow my recent contributions in this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21828-What-IS-this-creature-we-saw-!

The situation seems complex as not all the data required for discernment is available...... and some of it is quite uncomfortable.

Interesting, I have not seen anything about Lithium resources before, here is my own questioning about the Annunaki to the higher beings I have been in contact with for over 20 yrs http://hubpages.com/hub/PLANET-NIBIRU-AND-2012-part-2 . Many of the other channellings on my profile there may be interesting to you also. When I channel in next, I will ask about the lithium. By the way, Zachariah Sitchin's genetic engineering information always resonated with me as soon as I read it, when Bill said that he had heard that this was channelled it was the first time I had heard that explanation. This needs researching because as far as I know he had always said that it was translated from the tablets themselves.
Namaste

[RedeZra]

if God created adam and eve, we should all look alike, and there should be one race. three quarters of the world has dark hair dark skin and dark eyes. hmmm? indians, arabic, chinese, japanese, korean, egyptians, spanish, mexican, eskimo, african, somebody tampered with our DNA is the only conclusion.

nature makes mutations so the species adapt to specific environments

still an external genetic tampering seems to have taken place in the past

producing Giants and a variety of freakish animals

[The Mad spirtualist]

Slave Species of god By Michael Tellinger.!

[observer]

Slave Species of god By Michael Tellinger.!

A free online link to an introductory chapter:
'Slave Species of God', Michael Tillinger -
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/slavespecies.htm

Kerry Cassidy's, American Freedom Radio Interview with Michael Tellinger -
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-020911.mp3
(Move timer over to 8:30 for start of interview)

[Bill Ryan]

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

Hi again, All:

I was re-reading this paragraph above and realized that it gave the wrong impression. Sitchin did indeed translate his works from the Sumerian (he was a gifted scholar), but was guided by channeled information in the many instances where the meaning was not clear, or was ambiguous.

This accounts for the differences of opinion between him and other Sumerian scholars, who have ridiculed some of his interpretations.

I remain 100% certain that Sitchin's claims that the Anunnaki are riding around on Nibiru were disinformation coming from the Anunnaki themselves. The Anunnaki have advanced spacecraft and can certainly travel around the solar system freely any time they want. Where their home planet really is, I have no idea and have never heard (Henry Deacon didn't know either).

[Fred Steeves]

Hi again, All:

I was re-reading this paragraph above and realized that it gave the wrong impression. Sitchin did indeed translate his works from the Sumerian (he was a gifted scholar), but was guided by channeled information in the many instances where the meaning was not clear, or was ambiguous.

This accounts for the differences of opinion between him and other Sumerian scholars, who have ridiculed some of his interpretations.


Thanks for clearing that up Bill. I still think about that every now and and then, and it just didn't quite jibe with the manner in which he painstakingly presents his material.

I'm with you about the Annunaki "means of travel", and seriously doubt they need to wait thousands of years for a window of opportunity to re-visit Earth. In fact, I think many of them never even left, and there was never any intention for them to do so either. Much the same as the U.S. leaves bases behind in the nations they conquer. As always: Discernment, discernment, discernment.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[Ernie Nemeth]

just a place marker for future reference

[DePortugal]

Thank you Darla for " we are INFINITE creations of a most loving source."
Yes there is nothing that you can not be, do, or have.

[Bill Ryan]

:bump:

I was just tonight looking something up that I'd written in my opening post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20331-The-Anunnaki&p=216395&viewfull=1#post216395)... and realized that many new members might not know this thread exists. (It does! And it's pretty interesting, too.)

:)

[Daozen]

First time I saw this thread. On skimming the OP, there's a lot of good info here. Thanks Bill.

It might be too out there for some readers, but Amitakh Stanford's info on the Annunaki was a fantastic read, if nothing else. I can't agree with everything she writes, but her notes on the warring factions are interesting:

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_36.htm

http://www.xeeatwelve.net/articles/atu-waa.html

[TrumanCash]

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

Hi again, All:

I was re-reading this paragraph above and realized that it gave the wrong impression. Sitchin did indeed translate his works from the Sumerian (he was a gifted scholar), but was guided by channeled information in the many instances where the meaning was not clear, or was ambiguous.

This accounts for the differences of opinion between him and other Sumerian scholars, who have ridiculed some of his interpretations.

I remain 100% certain that Sitchin's claims that the Anunnaki are riding around on Nibiru were disinformation coming from the Anunnaki themselves. The Anunnaki have advanced spacecraft and can certainly travel around the solar system freely any time they want. Where their home planet really is, I have no idea and have never heard (Henry Deacon didn't know either).

Yes, thanks for bringing out this thread again, Bill. I was thinking of starting a thread entitled "Who were/are the Anunnaki?", so I look forward to reading this thread.

I, too, have always been hesitate to embrace the Nibiru story, but I knew from my own research and experience that Sitchin had correctly translated a couple accounts of one of my past incarnations as Ramesses. I had already recovered several memories from that lifetime and then discovered Sitchin's books and found two of the incidents were in his books. It is still rather astonishing to me that these accounts of my experiences were written over three thousand years ago in Egypt and that Sitchin was able to so accurately translate them.

However, he was not an ET contact researcher and so I found some of his conclusions to be non sequitur. But I think when it came to purely translating ancient writings he was spot on. I didn't know he was into channeling, too.

Some library researchers believe that the Sumerian Anunnaki (such as Enki and Anu) were giants. However, in my own experiences with the Anunnaki in Egypt (under the names Ra & Ptah) and the experiences with a fellow abductee with the Anunnaki in 17th century in what is now called Turkey, I know that they were not giants. [Ref: EYE OF RA, first two chapters, link below]

I think a lot of people are now realizing that the Anunnaki were/are not nice guys (although they played both good cop and bad cop roles). From my perspective some of the Sumerian writings as well as other writings about the Anunnaki in later times and places were probably accurate in that they wrote exactly what the Anunnaki wanted them to write. And that was not necessarily the truth.

The Anunnaki were the creators of the god-worshipping religions, satanic sacrifice rituals and insidious secret societies so they were/are very adept at lying and fabricating all kinds of fanciful stories as they plied the skies around the globe in their time-traveling craft (i.e., flying saucer).

They were the ones who created the controlled chaos on this planet and it is apparent to me that they are still doing so--and perhaps even micro-managing it via the Pentagon, CIA, etc. They are human-looking ETs so they could pass as one of us (e.g., "Val Thor"--notice the name of a Nordic god being used here.) They lied to their earthly contacts in telling them that they were gods and had to be worshiped and obeyed--or else!

We can know the Anunnaki from their symbols that are interwoven into the history of this planet throughout time. They are very often associated with the Pleiades in ancient writings (also see Billy Meier's contact notes). Their symbols include the cross, winged poisonous snakes, dragons (flying serpent), one or two snakes coiled around a staff (or tree of life), circle with a point in the middle, swastikas, pyramids, obelisks, sun god worship, Illu (illuminati, illumination, illusion), blood-letting knives, swords, etc, human and animal sacrifices, all lights in the sky (planets, stars, sun, moon), black/white checkered floor and other Masonic/secret society symbols, etc.

They literally identified themselves as the lights in the sky and the "sun god" role in virtually all corners of the earth. In Egypt the sun god was Ra. So there was the "rising sun" programming which was the (alleged) birth/rebirth/light side of things (e.g. Lucifer/Sirius the Light Bringer) and there was the "setting sun" programming which was death/darkness (Set, Seth, Satan). So there was the light side outer mystery rituals practiced by the public and the dark, satanic side inner mystery practiced in secret (usually).

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So Truman, what other specific leadership roles have you been able to identify throughout history where an Annunaki was placed? I'm looking for specifics here rather than generalizations so to identify patterns. Do you know some of the lineages where these incarnations have taken place in more current times, C.E.? Have you noticed reference to the word 'guardian' surfacing repeatedly in these incarnations?

[TrumanCash]

So Truman, what other specific leadership roles have you been able to identify throughout history where an Annunaki was placed? I'm looking for specifics here rather than generalizations so to identify patterns. Do you know some of the lineages where these incarnations have taken place in more current times, C.E.? Have you noticed reference to the word 'guardian' surfacing repeatedly in these incarnations?

I'm not certain I understand your questions. I am basing my understanding of the Anunnaki on personal experiences with them and with a fellow abductee, "Jack Wylie", which are documented in the "Ra and Ptah" and "Akarat's Abduction" chapters in THE EYE OF RA. I also drew a picture of what Ra looked like at the end of the "Ra and Ptah" chapter.

I also conducted an analysis of Anunnaki symbolism via library research in the mid-90s in that book. What I think is even more significant is being able to connect the Anunnaki with abducting Mantis, Grays and Reptilians in a very coordinated effort to keep mankind in spiritual darkness, slavery, perpetual war and chaos.

As far as "lineage" is concerned the Mantis don't necessarily implant an abductee into the same "lineage" (if I understand your meaning). Oftentimes I was forced into a pre-made body on board the implanting mothership between lifetimes. I cover that phenomenon (go-to-the-light programming) in the In-between Lives and Out of Body Abductions chapter of the EYE OF RA.

In my research I mainly covered numerous abductees that the ETs call "chosen ones" that they try to control lifetime to lifetime. I guess this lifetime I really got out of control, lol!

[DNA]

I recently wrote up some notes about the Anunnaki for someone who knew little about them. The concise report I created seemed to have some value (you will not find this information all in one place anywhere else) - and so here it is: :)

Anunnaki is Sumerian for "those who came from Heaven to Earth". They were regarded by the Sumerians as "gods", but were actually ETs.

They are 8-9 feet tall [2.4 - 2.7m], and like dressing up in ceremonial costumes (including headdresses), which are colorful, flamboyant, ornate, and ceremonial. Their culture goes back to 100,000 years or more, and they attach a great importance to tradition, ritual, ceremony and symbols.


The Lacerta Interview is it's own bag of questions, but the interview tells the creation story of man and it mirrors Zacharia Sitchen's creation mythos contained in the Summarian Mythos.
I think this creation mythos in itself is worth looking into because of the strange parallels that exist.

Lacerta stated that a race of powerful ET's known as the Elohim came to earth a long time ago. This race was much more powerful than the Earth evolved Reptilians who lived in large caverns beneath the surface.
The Elohim created a human being from the most advanced primates of the time.
The Elohim left but when they returned they exterminated all of the humans that were living on earth, and after doing so they introduced a new human species with genetic markers developed more to their liking.

This has taken place a total of seven times according to Lacerta.
And Lacerta has stated not all of the genetic tinkering had our best interest at heart. This shouldn't be hard to believe considering that the race has no ethical qualms about rubbing out previous populations as if humans were rats.
The genetic tinkering stunted the psychic capabilities of humans, removing telepathic abilities most other races take for granted.

There were more psychic abilities that have been genetically turned off so to speak.
For instance Lacerta stated that she and most other intelligent beings have no problem manipulating the minds of humans because of a defect we were made with, a sort of switch that allows for easy interference of our minds.
She states that this is why she and most races can appear to us in any fashion that they want including full human.
Not because reptilians are shape shifters but because they can psychicly alter their image in our minds.


The part about these Elohim that really bothers me is that Lacerta states that she and her people are of the opinion that these Elohim may in fact return to earth for another round of genocide and replacement by humans that have had their DNA altered to a further extent.

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So Truman, what other specific leadership roles have you been able to identify throughout history where an Annunaki was placed? I'm looking for specifics here rather than generalizations so to identify patterns. Do you know some of the lineages where these incarnations have taken place in more current times, C.E.? Have you noticed reference to the word 'guardian' surfacing repeatedly in these incarnations?

I'm not certain I understand your questions. I am basing my understanding of the Anunnaki on personal experiences with them and with a fellow abductee, "Jack Wylie", which are documented in the "Ra and Ptah" and "Akarat's Abduction" chapters in THE EYE OF RA. I also drew a picture of what Ra looked like at the end of the "Ra and Ptah" chapter.

Oh, I was under the impression that you had worked on a lot of cases?



I also conducted an analysis of Anunnaki symbolism via library research in the mid-90s in that book. What I think is even more significant is being able to connect the Anunnaki with abducting Mantis, Grays and Reptilians in a very coordinated effort to keep mankind in spiritual darkness, slavery, perpetual war and chaos.

As far as "lineage" is concerned the Mantis don't necessarily implant an abductee into the same "lineage" (if I understand your meaning). Oftentimes I was forced into a pre-made body on board the implanting mothership between lifetimes. I cover that phenomenon (go-to-the-light programming) in the In-between Lives and Out of Body Abductions chapter of the EYE OF RA.

In my research I mainly covered numerous abductees that the ETs call "chosen ones" that they try to control lifetime to lifetime. I guess this lifetime I really got out of control, lol!

I guess I'm confused...above you say two people and now you say numerous abductees...so how many people are we talking here? Off of the top of my head, the work of IONS(Institute of Noetic Sciences) and researchers such as Robert Schwartz don't report high volumes of negative experiences with E.T.'s. In fact I haven't seen Robert report any, however it could be he chooses not to focus on that angle. In fact Robert Schwartz research strongly suggests pre-birth planning, so that would suggest abductees might not be the victims they portray themselves to be if they're doing prebirth planning. I like to look at a wide range of researchers to draw my conclusions, not just my own work because I can't cover every aspect out there.

An avenue you might want to consider exploring are bloodlines. What bloodline are your abductees incarnating into? This is an important factor to consider into the equation. Look at their genealogy! if you do enough people you will see patterns. I keep talking about the ancient science of Geomancy in my posts...it's something to be aware of because people aren't incarnating into random bloodlines, it's tied to Geomancy, and it would have to have rhyme and reason as you are working within the confines of a computer simulation which means numbers and mathematical equations. I haven't found a solid source for Geomancy yet, so I apologize I can't offer more, it's something I need to research further, but can clearly see it's taking place.

Many remember picking their parents from a select few before birth, which says to me, if you're 'picking' your parents, than you are given a 'choice' of who to pick from which says the entire spectrum of families isn't at your disposal. And it wouldn't be because research is showing you incarnate with the same group of people from one incarnation to the next who are of your soul group. I think this can somewhat be reinforced by science as studies suggest your DNA is more similar to your friends than strangers! I know this is again tied to the principles of Geomancy because you have to think in terms of energy and vibratory frequencies.

FRIENDS HAVE MORE DNA IN COMMON THAN STRANGERS
https://www.livescience.com/46791-friends-share-genes.html

If you haven't done so, it's helpful to look at more than one past life to observe patterns which then gives you insight into how 'the game' is being played. If you've incarnated into one of the royal lines likely you will incarnate more than once into the same line. So when possible, if you can follow that lineage down the genetic line, you may spot additional identities of either yourself or family members.

I have to ask this question, if you're reincarnating over and over again, how can anyone be a 'victim' as reincarnation tells you this reality isn't what's real.

I just came across this article you might find helpful,...I'm still pounding through it myself as it's rather long. It will give you an idea to my point, the significance of which bloodlines your abductees are incarnating into. Maybe you're already aware of this person and his information? It caught my eye, because they're identifying a pattern I'm suggesting.

ANUNAKI BLOODLINE?

http://www.michaelleehill.net/eastlake-ohio-home-of-recent-mass-ufo-sightings-revealed-as-the-home-of-the-mound-builders-one-of-the-fabled-lost-nationstribes-the-nephilim/

"The Cayce readings indicated the Atlanteans had been forced to relocate to various distant lands during the catastrophes, specifically to the Pyrenees Mountains (between Spain and France), Morocco (Atlas Mountains), Egypt (where they built the pyramids) and North America (where they formed the Iroquois nation). All Type X locations.

In North America, the highest concentration of Type X lineage was found within the Iroquois nation (Ojibway, Oneota and Nuu-Chah-Nulth tribes). Cayce also reported some Atlanteans went on to the American Southwest and Midwest. The Navajo (Southwest) and mound builder region (Midwest) also contain some Type X subjects.

The bottom line — everywhere Edgar Cayce (psychic readings) claimed the Atlanteans settled after their land disappeared has a high unaccountable occurrence of a specific DNA type (type X) found nowhere else on this planet."

"Iroquois Indian are the remnants of the mound Builders who are the Remnants of the Lost Tribes of Israel….

The Nephilim!

The Reality of a new unknown human DNA tracing back Ancient Times can no longer be questioned, it is real folks!

What I want to share is that I am the Anunnaki’s appointed messenger/Prophet Enki here in these human clothes, Let me share some historical knowledge that I have been given by them to share to begin our conversation and is about to be released to humanity....."

No doubt we're talking more than one E.T. race here which is why our perceptions will be different based on our experiences and findings. I don't feel the Annunaki have taken over everything and am of the belief that Earth is a school for soul growth. As always my opinion is based on the combined work of several researchers not just my own, so I can be swayed at any time if enough research comes forward to alter my opinion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBjL7oP-7Xg



Affirmation From 'The Other Side'?

My research colleague likes to read as many NDE (Near Death Experience) stories as he can and sent this one my way. A comment made by a person sharing their story, who goes by the name of Paul, caught my attention because it was supporting the conclusion I've come to through my own research which is telling me our experience on planet Earth is nothing more than a 'game'.

Questionnaire: Did you suddenly seem to understand everything?
Paul: "Everything about the universe / I understood it was all a game way beyond what we could understand. Purpose was living/passing. Trying."


Here's the link in case you're interested in reading the entire story:
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Exper...paul_d_nde.htm

I know this is a lot of information to absorb, but this what I do when I'm trying to process findings before drawing any conclusions. I'm not trying to harp on you, I'm very interested in the patterns research reveals as I think it's the closest to truth we can get.

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The part about these Elohim that really bothers me is that Lacerta states that she and her people are of the opinion that these Elohim may in fact return to earth for another round of genocide and replacement by humans that have had their DNA altered to a further extent.

We never left you and are still here! Prepare yourself as we are plotting and planning as you're what's for dinner!

LMAO, ROFL...forgive me, I couldn't resist.


My name is ELizabeth Marie and I come from the E.T. race The ELohim...notice EL-ELizabeth, ELen, ELeanor, MichaEL, RaphaEL....HELen, HELena, SELene....these are some of the names that run in our soul group. I come from the soul group Archangel MichaEL and RaphaEL. We are known healers and architects,...meaning we build empires. To not fear us is to look at our past lives and understand our intentions. We have played many, many roles, from musicians, to bakers, to politicians, to war heroes, to world leaders, a wide array of talents.

Someone has got the story all wrong, so I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep in regards to Lacerta's findings in fact you can tell him/her 'Artemis' from The ELohim says so...ask her if she's identified any past lives of these so called 'ELohim'. And if she hasn't, then she's only passing on conjecture as to know who we really are, one has to know who we've been....

'KNOW THYSELF'.
The Ancient Greek aphorism "know thyself" or "gnothi seauton" (Greek: γνῶθι σεαυτόν, transliterated: gnōthi seauton; also ... σαυτόν … sauton with the ε contracted), is one of the Delphic maxims and was inscribed in the pronaos (forecourt) of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi according to the Greek writer Pausanias (10.24.1).[1] The phrase was later expounded upon by the philosopher Socrates who taught that:

"The unexamined life is not worth living."

SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself

PS...Can you pass the butter please? .....kidding..kidding...lol

[DNA]

The part about these Elohim that really bothers me is that Lacerta states that she and her people are of the opinion that these Elohim may in fact return to earth for another round of genocide and replacement by humans that have had their DNA altered to a further extent.

We never left you and are still here! Prepare yourself as we are plotting and planning as you're what's for dinner!

LMAO, ROFL...forgive me, I couldn't resist.


My name is ELizabeth Marie and I come from the E.T. race The ELohim...notice EL-ELizabeth, ELen, ELeanor, MichaEL, RaphaEL....HELen, HELena, SELene....these are some of the names that run in our soul group. I come from the soul group Archangel MichaEL and RaphaEL. We are known healers and architects,...meaning we build empires. To not fear us is to look at our past lives and understand our intentions. We have played many, many roles, from musicians, to bakers, to politicians, to war heroes, to world leaders, a wide array of talents.

Someone has got the story all wrong, so I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep in regards to Lacerta's findings in fact you can tell him/her 'Artemis' from The ELohim says so...ask her if she's identified any past lives of these so called 'ELohim'. And if she hasn't, then she's only passing on conjecture as to know who we really are, one has to know who we've been....

'KNOW THYSELF'.
The Ancient Greek aphorism "know thyself" or "gnothi seauton" (Greek: γνῶθι σεαυτόν, transliterated: gnōthi seauton; also ... σαυτόν … sauton with the ε contracted), is one of the Delphic maxims and was inscribed in the pronaos (forecourt) of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi according to the Greek writer Pausanias (10.24.1).[1] The phrase was later expounded upon by the philosopher Socrates who taught that:

"The unexamined life is not worth living."

SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself

PS...Can you pass the butter please? .....kidding..kidding...lol


I'll play along.
You have to realize that if you were born human then you are no longer of an ET race. Your present incarnation would trump whatever past affiliations your soul may have had. Further more ET races are no more special on a soul level than being human.
On a soul level you are not sitting around in the upper dimensions between lives bragging to your other soul friends that you were once an elohim.
Plenty of folks have had a past life as a non-earth born species.
No big deal. It doesn't make you special in any way what so ever, and to think it does makes me doubt your claims.

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I'll play along.
You have to realize that if you were born human then you are no longer of an ET race. Your present incarnation would trump whatever past affiliations your soul may have had.
And what are you basing that belief on? See underlined. What you're saying does not show up in the research, so please source the basis of your belief otherwise the viewer, myself included, has no reference to why you would believe such a thing.

Research shows you are tied to soul groups and soul groups have a vibratory rate. Souls are also tied to E.T. races and it's why you are incarnating with people of similar vibratory rates. It's how 'the game' works. If you listen to the video I posted above, which is the work of Robert Schwartz (he's the first hour), he explains in more depth about soul groups. You can also refer to his books for more details. This is not a new phenomenon, as several researchers such as Dr. Walter Semkiw, Paul Von Ward and Adrian Finkelstein have discussed the presence of soul groups in their work. I also noticed this occurring in my own cases due to being a documented figure which meant several in my group were also documented so I could trace them.

Aren't you a fan of Edgar Cayce? Some of the source of my information comes from Akashic Record reader Kevin Ryerson who was on the Edgar Cayce board for many years and a strong proponent for Casey's work. In fact, he's been dubbed by many to be the Edgar Cayce of our times today because his readings are so accurate, hence my confidence in his work. Like I've said a million times in my posts, I didn't just believe what I was told in my readings, I researched it! There is a methodology you can follow to confirm your identities. You can also use Biometrics if you are lucky enough to have proper photos/death masks at your disposal.


Further more ET races are no more special on a soul level than being human. On a soul level you are not sitting around in the upper dimensions between lives bragging to your other soul friends that you were once an elohim.
Plenty of folks have had a past life as a non-earth born species.
No big deal. It doesn't make you special in any way what so ever, and to think it does makes me doubt your claims.

You are projecting your own insecurities onto me, like many insist on doing. Never did I say I was special and just because I know who I've been doesn't mean I think I'm special, that's you're issue not mine. I openly share my discoveries with others to help clarify discrepancies so we can all get to the truth. I'm no different than Truman Cash, in fact we are both telling people the same thing...research your past lives if you want the truth and stop relying on others to find your truth! Which is how I Know the Lacerta information you're relaying isn't correct and the reason behind the question I posed to you in my earlier post.

"....ask her if she's identified any past lives of these so called 'ELohim'. And if she hasn't, then she's only passing on conjecture as to know who we really are, one has to know who we've been...."

I'm not familiar with the Lacerta papers so I have no idea if authorship is a him or her, sorry.

In case you haven't noticed, I don't have dozens of Youtube videos, and I'm not selling anything, all I've done is shared the research information I've compiled while walking the process of 'Knowing Thyself'.

The answer lies here:
“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence. To understand the true nature of the universe, one must think it terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”- Nikola Tesla

[DNA]

And what are you basing that belief on? See underlined. What you're saying does not show up in the research, so please source the basis of your belief otherwise the viewer, myself included, has no reference to why you would believe such a thing.


I'm erasing and replacing my previous comment because it was pretty rude.
I apologize.
I felt you asking me to give source material for my opinion after your Glen Beck chalkboard routine using the correlation through shared letter explanation was a little much.
My name is ELizabeth Marie and I come from the E.T. race The ELohim...notice EL-ELizabeth, ELen, ELeanor, MichaEL, RaphaEL....HELen, HELena, SELene....these are some of the names that run in our soul group. I come from the soul group Archangel MichaEL and RaphaEL.
And on top of the Glen Beck routine how can you demand I provide some sort of reference or source material to back up an opinion, when you are asking me to accept the anchor premise in your argument, which is that you are an Elohim? Something there is no way you can prove.
Can you not see how ridiculous that is? Can you see how that is demanding a little much considering in that I accept your quite outlandish statements at face value so we can move on and converse when you demand me to give references and sources for my opinion which is simply that, an opinion.
Can you see what you are doing?
You are changing the rules for interaction midway though the discussion.
You have gone from we are sharing our personal truths however outlandish they may be to "this isn't going my way so I'm going to demand proof and sources".

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I'm not making wild claims. I've been researching for many years. I've been studying past lives for many years. This isn't the thread to post my cases as it would take me off topic. And besides, if I did, you would likely have a problem with me doing so since you seem to think I'm bragging. I don't think anyone should have to apologize for who they've been nor should they have to hide it.

If you want me to understand the basis of your statement and why you feel the way you do, it would be helpful to know what it is you're reading that supports your belief as stated here:

You have to realize that if you were born human then you are no longer of an ET race. Your present incarnation would trump whatever past affiliations your soul may have had.

I just posted an article above that seems to show a correlation between the Anunnaki and the Iroquios via bloodline, that goes against what your saying to me above, if I understand you correctly, so it's why I'm asking you for a source. You can believe whatever you want to believe, that's your free will. But some of us do research and it's why we ask for such things, so we can understand the viewpoints of others in order to learn from what they have learned. Otherwise, how can we take your information seriously? If you're doing the homework you should have no problem sourcing your information.

How many of your past lives have you researched? I find the one's who can't see my viewpoint are the one's who've never studied the topic and it's content, which is why they don't understand it in the first place.

EDIT TO ADD: From the article I posted above:
What has recently blown my mind is that Edgar Cayce predicted exactly this! That Iroquois Indians are the remnants of the “Mound Buiilders” of Ancient American history , which Cayce reveals were the remnants of the Atlantians or Poseidons as Edgar Cayce called them. (Enki-ites)

Not to be blunt, but this is the revealing of the Nephilim Bloodline through the North America Native Indians with DNA evidence in the form of Haplogroup X which is a recently disovered (1997) Human DNA group which is mainly only found in the sometimes giant skeletal remains removed from Ancient American Earth Mounds, Ancient Egypt and still today in the Iroquois tribe of Indians.

What surprised me is the recent knowledge that Edgar Cayce predicted all of this in his reading on exactly who the Mound Builders were!!!!

[Jayke]

Geomancy in theory and practice (https://www.amazon.co.uk/GEOMANCY-THEORY-PRACTICE-SKINNER-S/dp/0955738709) by Stephen Skinner, might be of interest to you We-R-one.

Also, in my experience, not all Annunaki are evil, how many people know that the Annunaki aka ‘the shining ones’, founded the Chinese civilisation, as Mantak Chia admits in the bio of his book Taoist Shaman

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1594773653/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Thousands of years ago the immortals known as the Shining Ones shipwrecked on the Chinese coast. Passing their shamanic practices--such as ecstatic flight and how to find power animals and spirit guides--on to the indigenous people, they also taught them the wisdom of the Medicine Wheel. From the Taoist Medicine Wheel came the principles of Yin and Yang, the Five Elements, the Eight Forces, the Chinese zodiac, and the I Ching. The Taoist Medicine Wheel can also be found at the foundation of traditional Chinese medicine and the esoteric sexual practices of Taoist Alchemy. In the Taoist Shaman, Master Mantak Chia and Kris Deva North explain the shamanic principles of the Taoist Medicine Wheel, how it is oriented on the Five Elements rather than the Four Directions, how it relates to the twelve animals of the Chinese zodiac and the trigrams of the I Ching, and how it aligns with the Eight Forces of the Pakua. Through illustrated teaching stories, the authors show how the energetic principles of each of the Eight Forces are reflected in the Eight Immortals. Revealing the wheels application to sacred sexuality, they offer exercises from the Wheel of Love; to strengthen and deepen relationships as well as providing a means to access the Tao of Ecstasy.

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Jayke you rock! I have to run out for the time being, I will read when I get back. Thank you!

[we-R-one]

Geomancy in theory and practice (https://www.amazon.co.uk/GEOMANCY-THEORY-PRACTICE-SKINNER-S/dp/0955738709) by Stephen Skinner, might be of interest to you We-R-one.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1594773653/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's exactly the kind of source I'm looking for, thank you very much. I could see there was a connection between ley lines and reincarnation so in one of my readings with Kevin I asked if I was reading the patterns correctly. He affirmed my findings and told me to look at Geomancy. He explained it was tied to the principles of Feng Shui, which is exactly the background of author Stephen Skinner. I like the tie in to astrology. I was amazed how much my chart was matching my experiences and traits, so clearly there's a correlation. It will be interesting to study his presentation so I can understand more definitively. Just reading the review confirms that once again Kevin Ryerson is giving me good information.

[DNA]

I'll play along.
You have to realize that if you were born human then you are no longer of an ET race. Your present incarnation would trump whatever past affiliations your soul may have had.
And what are you basing that belief on? See underlined. What you're saying does not show up in the research, so please source the basis of your belief otherwise the viewer, myself included, has no reference to why you would believe such a thing.
This is an opinion in so far as it is self evident for those who have eyes.
But upon reflection I can think of several places in the research that back this up.
The Seth Material by Jane Roberts would be one.
Aliens are mentioned in the Seth Material and at no time do we hear any soul going on and on bragging about being from some specific alien race.
This is because that would be ridiculous from a soul's perspective.


In Michael Newton's "Journy of the Soul" books he states that around 10% of the human race has had off world incarnations at one point or another.
Michael Newton goes on to say that this is nothing to put very much stock in.
Souls speaking of such things in Newton's books do not put much stock or importance in having been born into an alien race at some point.


In the Terra Papers by Robert Morningsky, he speaks of the Annunaki being a wolf like race that come from a planet orbiting Sirius.
He states that these folks are ferocious battlefield warriors that will pick up a dead or dying enemy and eat them on the spot for the sheer enjoyment of inflicting terror on the enemy. Given you claim to be an Annunaki and also claim Sirian descent I thought you might like that example.
Spiritually speaking, having been an Annunaki would in no way make you more advanced than being born a human, and in fact it might require you to incarnate longer due to the large amount of karmic debt you have to work off.


Research shows you are tied to soul groups and soul groups have a vibratory rate.
I will agree with that, but that has nothing to do with being more advanced because you claim to have been incarnated as an alien before.



[Souls are also tied to E.T. races and it's why you are incarnating with people of similar vibratory rates. It's how 'the game' works. If you listen to the video I posted above, which is the work of Robert Schwartz (he's the first hour), he explains in more depth about soul groups. You can also refer to his books for more details. This is not a new phenomenon, as several researchers such as Dr. Walter Semkiw, Paul Von Ward and Adrian Finkelstein have discussed the presence of soul groups in their work. I also noticed this occurring in my own cases due to being a documented figure which meant several in my group were also documented so I could trace them.
Souls are tied to ET races is a flawed statement. It can mean anything.
Everything you have posted under this statement has a lost meaning due to how nebulous the sentence "souls are tied to ET races" is.



Aren't you a fan of Edgar Cayce?
Yes I am :)



[Some of the source of my information comes from Akashic Record reader Kevin Ryerson who was on the Edgar Cayce board for many years and a strong proponent for Casey's work. In fact, he's been dubbed by many to be the Edgar Cayce of our times today because his readings are so accurate, hence my confidence in his work. Like I've said a million times in my posts, I didn't just believe what I was told in my readings, I researched it! There is a methodology you can follow to confirm your identities. You can also use Biometrics if you are lucky enough to have proper photos/death masks at your disposal.
Kevin Ryerson or Ned Ryerson it's all the same to me because it is not Edgar Cayce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkW_ZkMtmlQ




You are projecting your own insecurities onto me, like many insist on doing. Never did I say I was special and just because I know who I've been doesn't mean I think I'm special, that's you're issue not mine. I openly share my discoveries with others to help clarify discrepancies so we can all get to the truth. I'm no different than Truman Cash, in fact we are both telling people the same thing...research your past lives if you want the truth and stop relying on others to find your truth! Which is how I Know the Lacerta information you're relaying isn't correct and the reason behind the question I posed to you in my earlier post.
Maybe I am projecting a little bit, but hear me out.
A past life and it's bearing on this reality are only useful in the application they are used.
The Lacerta Files are genius.
That you cannot deny. If they are a lie and or a fabrication that is another issue, but legit or not the Lacerta Files are a genius creation.
Your attempt to trump the genius shared in the Lacerta Files with a "I'm a Elohim soul because I did my past life work so trust me that the Lacerta files are false" is well it's childish on many levels.
If you are an Elohim soul reborn with secrets and advanced knowledge then share it and combat what you feel is a falsehood with what you feel is truth.
Use your genius to convince me why the Lacerta files are false.
Don't try to make me a follower due to claimed divinity.
Nothing motivates me to action quicker than the need to remove the mystic aura a self proclaimed guru is attempting to create.


"....ask her if she's identified any past lives of these so called 'ELohim'. And if she hasn't, then she's only passing on conjecture as to know who we really are, one has to know who we've been...."


You do not need to know where you have been. You do not need to know any of your past lives in order to attempt to focus on and have the best life you are presently living.
Past life information is positively not essential, and furthermore those who focus too much on it can find it detrimental.



I'm not familiar with the Lacerta papers so I have no idea if authorship is a him or her, sorry.

In case you haven't noticed, I don't have dozens of Youtube videos, and I'm not selling anything, all I've done is shared the research information I've compiled while walking the process of 'Knowing Thyself'.


Fair enough.

[DNA]

I'm not making wild claims. I've been researching for many years. I've been studying past lives for many years. This isn't the thread to post my cases as it would take me off topic. And besides, if I did, you would likely have a problem with me doing so since you seem to think I'm bragging. I don't think anyone should have to apologize for who they've been nor should they have to hide it.
So in the streets do you begin every statement with, "hello I'm a reincarted Elohim and as such this instills in me the expert opinion on any and all subjects I'm about to comment on, so you can trust that I'm correct" don't you see how ridiculous that is?



If you want me to understand the basis of your statement and why you feel the way you do, it would be helpful to know what it is you're reading that supports your belief as stated here:

You have to realize that if you were born human then you are no longer of an ET race. Your present incarnation would trump whatever past affiliations your soul may have had.

I just posted an article above that seems to show a correlation between the Anunnaki and the Iroquios via bloodline, that goes against what your saying to me above, if I understand you correctly, so it's why I'm asking you for a source.
I haven't read your Iroquios bloodline connection to Annunaki's but I don't need to.
The Lacerta interview itself is saying that All humans would have a bloodline connection to the Annunaki being as they (the annunaki) infused their genes into ours.
As well as Zacharia Sitchen and Robert Morningsky's Terra papers saying this as well.


Those Iroquios you are talking about may very well have a stronger bloodline to the Atlanteans and for sake of conversation we will go on and say they do, but that has nothing to do with them having any past life connection to the Annunaki nor any blood line relation to the Annunaki.


If Your statement were true it would actually strengthen the Lacerta Interview argument, because she talks about past civilizations of human beings having a stronger genetic connection to the Annunaki, and the Annunaki wishing to dilute that gene by introducing weaker and more watered down models of humans in this regard.
The Annunaki do not want humans existing on this planet with strong genetic connections to them, as we may pose a threat and or lack the servility needed to be proper slaves.
So I find it very possible that small pockets of previous versions of humanity may have lived through the genocides inflicted on the earth so that the Annunaki could introduce their latest and worst model of human beings.
But I repeat, Edgar Cayce never stated anything about the Annunaki, so any blood relation in terms of your Irroquis connection is just conjecture and nothing more.
The more I read of the Annunaki the less I would claim to be their representative and or claim to have been one, being as they are pretty much the bastards of the universe.




How many of your past lives have you researched? I find the one's who can't see my viewpoint are the one's who've never studied the topic and it's content, which is why they don't understand it in the first place.


I don't hold the research in high esteem. I consider the research unnecessary and overrated. It is often muddled and pitted with falsehoods. The exception being Edgar Cayce who has proven his genius time and time again.



EDIT TO ADD: From the article I posted above:
What has recently blown my mind is that Edgar Cayce predicted exactly this! That Iroquois Indians are the remnants of the “Mound Buiilders” of Ancient American history , which Cayce reveals were the remnants of the Atlantians or Poseidons as Edgar Cayce called them. (Enki-ites)


Look I've read the book you are citing.
http://www.edgarcaycebooks.org/images/moundbuildersdrop.gif

And although Edgar Cayce makes correlations with certain Native Americans and they having come from Atlantis, Edgar does not in anyway make a correlation to the Annunaki, that is your interpretation and your imagination.

https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/ancient-dna-research/

Cayce indicated that the largest migration from Atlantis occurred just before 10,000 B.C. The majority of these Atlantean survivors went to the Northeastern coastal areas of America and Canada becoming the Iroquois. It should be recalled that Cayce also stated that not all of the Iroquois were Atlantean. The Atlanteans migrating to the Americas merged with the people already present in America by that time. The Atlanteans became leaders of the tribes and Cayce’s story makes it clear that the Atlanteans had serious disputes among themselves that were reflected in ongoing violent conflict. This was the struggle between the Belial and Law of One groups. This is confirmed by the Iroquois’ ancient history that tells of constant battles resulting in distant displacements of entire tribes to ensure their survival. Perhaps the most astonishing confirmation of Cayce’s story of ancient America is the presence of haplogroup X. What is known is that the X haplogroup first showed up in America perhaps 34,000 years ago, but its main entry occurred in 10,000 B.C. matching Mr. Cayce’s time frame for Atlantean migrations. The X group also appears to have shown up in ancient Iberia and in the Basques about the same time as well as in the Gobi. These dates match Cayce’s story of the final two destructions of Atlantis and the resulting migrations to these areas.
surprised me is the recent knowledge that Edgar Cayce predicted all of thWhat is in his reading on exactly who the Mound Builders were!!!!
Again, the Atlanteans were not the Annunaki. This is your addition, Cayce stated nothing of the sort.

[Michelle Marie]

A lot of different peoples "merged" and you can find a variety of blood types in a single family unit. Is there any significance to these blood types?

You mention the Basques who are noted to have a high level of Rh negative blood. Does this indicate anything that would tie in with the Annunaki or other ET race?

Maybe there already is another thread that formerly discusses these questions?

Thanks for the commentaries.
MM

[DNA]

A lot of different peoples "merged" and you can find a variety of blood types in a single family unit. Is there any significance to these blood types?
You mention the Basques who are noted to have a high level of Rh negative blood. Does this indicate anything that would tie in with the Annunaki or other ET race?
Maybe there already is another thread that formerly discusses these questions?
Thanks for the commentaries.
MM





Hi Michelle Marie
I find Robert Sepehr to be a fascinating source for what you are asking.
This short 8 minute video is really great for breaking down what you are asking.
This video is making some amazing correlations.
This is a very short and really good video.
In this video we see a correlation of four ancient native races who were white skinned, blond/red haired and blue eyed people who have high concentrations of RH Negative Blood.
The Basque of the Pyranese Mountains, The Native Berbers of North West Africa who hail from the areas of Morroco, The Quanchas from the island of Tenerife in the Canary Islands, and the most ancient of Egyptian Mummies which have been noted to have red hair.
It is noted that the Basque's are quoted in this video as saying they have descended from Antlantica, a great sea faring nation that was destroyed to a great cataclysm.
Many of these cultures have left mummies behind.
The Quanches left pyramids behind.
Fascinating stuff.
It seems the giants of North America with red hair could very well have been refugees fleeing Atlantis as well. http://www.ancient-code.com/bloodtyp...-with-amnesia/ (http://www.ancient-code.com/bloodtype-rh-negative-and-our-alien-dna-an-otherworldly-lineage-of-a-species-with-amnesia/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls_ZtM1Itzs
ls_ZtM1Itzs

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Again, the Atlanteans were not the Annunaki. This is your addition, Cayce stated nothing of the sort.

No, the Atlanteans were definitely not the Annunaki. But in the last Epoch of Atlantis, there was a very negative possibly outside influence that played a big role in their eventual downfall. That negativity was invited in because it promised them Power (this intrusion may have been the Annunaki, I don't know). Whatever the case, the ruling classes of Atlantis welcomed it. They were every bit as ambitious, avaricious, and depraved as...funnily enough, the ruling classes of today. That's probably because they're one and the same.

I don't know for sure what part the 'Annunaki' played in Atlantis. After all, they are just a name. There are many names, and there are those who go by many names. What's most important is, that everything that happened before, in Atlantis, is happening again. Today. We are Atlantis reborn, but this time it stretches from ocean to ocean, coast to coast, pole to pole. And it is my firm belief we have reached the same point in the Great Human Drama that Atlantis did. We have reached the very same brink. They fell over the edge. Should humanity fall again, this time round it will fall very, very hard. It will be on a global scale this time.

But we can be the change, we can be the energy, the positivity, that breaks the cycle of self-destruction. There is a different road for humanity to walk if it so chooses (one without the Annunaki or any other interfering force).

[we-R-one]

DNA, it's obvious you don't care to know me as a poster or the quality of research work I've posted on Avalon. I've been posting about past lives and other topics on here for a long time. I try and source my postings as much as I can, so the reader understands why I make the statements I do, something that few posters take the time to do! Unfortunately this forum doesn't offer a format where I can post a bio about all my past life discoveries/methodologies, where I can point you to read so you can process how I've drawn the conclusions I have. And even if I could post it, most people would never take the time to read it because it would be too long.

I've worked on my past life cases since 2011 with the help of Dr. Walter Semkiw, Kevin Ryerson and Paul Von Ward, all experts in the field. I understand the methodologies used to make proper past life identifications which is why I'm so confident. If you take the time to research each of the individuals I mentioned above, you can see these are top experts. Paul Von Ward actually used Biometrics to measure my face in order to assist in making a proper past life identification to Mary Queen of Scots. Do you know what BIOMETRICS is? Do you know the FBI uses BIOMETRICS to make proper identifications of people? Additionally, Paul used other methodologies, which you can read about on his website, so it's not just how you look that makes a compelling case. Of course you won't take the time to do any of this as you've already made your mind up. I personally flew out to his house to work with him along with my research partner. I'll share a little tip with you....YOU CAN'T FAKE BIOMETRICS . Again, I cannot go into great detail here as it's an equivalent to writing a book and this isn't the appropriate thread. MY HANDS ARE TIED, so keep that in mind.

The reason Truman Cash and I can see the value in understanding past lives identities is because we've done the homework, which is why most can't, as they've explored none of it. It's more than just who you were, it's what it implies as there is a story within a story which is what you'll find when you've made proper identifications. Both of us, in different ways have been sharing with Avalonians the value of our findings. God knows why we bother because you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't, that is the impression I'm left with by some of the posters on Avalon. If I post too much information, I'm told I fancy myself, if I do youtube videos, set up a blog, website, et al, then I'll be accused of self promotion...it's a no win situation and it won't matter what I do, someone will make dumb a$$ remarks to counter anything you share or say. It's absolutely ridiculous! Who even wants to post anything?

You make unfair insinuations and assumptions, take my words out of context and truly I think I'm wasting my time even answering your posts. You've taken things completely off topic in your opening statement which is why I won't bother answering all your remarks out of respect for the others reading this thread.

I posted scientific evidence backing my statement, in which you stated 'I don't need to' in regards to looking at it ....So you're just throwing that out of the thought processing equation? SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE through blood samples which means they're using DNA. Really??

You also misquoted and are accusing me wrongly at the bottom of your last post here:



And although Edgar Cayce makes correlations with certain Native Americans and they having come from Atlantis, Edgar does not in anyway make a correlation to the Annunaki, that is your interpretation and your imagination.

https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/ancient-dna-research/

Cayce indicated that the largest migration from Atlantis occurred just before 10,000 B.C. The majority of these Atlantean survivors went to the Northeastern coastal areas of America and Canada becoming the Iroquois. It should be recalled that Cayce also stated that not all of the Iroquois were Atlantean. The Atlanteans migrating to the Americas merged with the people already present in America by that time. The Atlanteans became leaders of the tribes and Cayce’s story makes it clear that the Atlanteans had serious disputes among themselves that were reflected in ongoing violent conflict. This was the struggle between the Belial and Law of One groups. This is confirmed by the Iroquois’ ancient history that tells of constant battles resulting in distant displacements of entire tribes to ensure their survival. Perhaps the most astonishing confirmation of Cayce’s story of ancient America is the presence of haplogroup X. What is known is that the X haplogroup first showed up in America perhaps 34,000 years ago, but its main entry occurred in 10,000 B.C. matching Mr. Cayce’s time frame for Atlantean migrations. The X group also appears to have shown up in ancient Iberia and in the Basques about the same time as well as in the Gobi. These dates match Cayce’s story of the final two destructions of Atlantis and the resulting migrations to these areas.
surprised me is the recent knowledge that Edgar Cayce predicted all of thWhat is in his reading on exactly who the Mound Builders were!!!!
Again, the Atlanteans were not the Annunaki. This is your addition, Cayce stated nothing of the sort.

That wasn't my personal statement or 'interpretation' or 'imagination' as you're implying, it was a quote taken from the link I provided off of Michael Lee Hill's website, so take it up with him and The Edgar Cayce Association he cited on his page.

I didn't cite the book either, your mis-reading:


Look I've read the book you are citing.
http://www.edgarcaycebooks.org/images/moundbuildersdrop.gif


Apparently someone believes his work(Michael Lee Hill) as his story was on UFO HUNTERS with Bill Birnes, but honestly the DNA evidence says it all and that's where I'd place my focus to confirm his findings.

Sadly, you've proven a statement I've reluctantly had to make on Avalon before....that unfortunately people can't/won't read and are unable to process the information placed before them.

[we-R-one]

A lot of different peoples "merged" and you can find a variety of blood types in a single family unit. Is there any significance to these blood types?

You mention the Basques who are noted to have a high level of Rh negative blood. Does this indicate anything that would tie in with the Annunaki or other ET race?

The Basque are mentioned in the link I provided above. You may find this interesting:

"Not to be blunt, but this is the revealing of the Nephilim Bloodline through the North America Native Indians with DNA evidence in the form of Haplogroup X which is a recently disovered (1997) Human DNA group which is mainly only found in the sometimes giant skeletal remains removed from Ancient American Earth Mounds, Ancient Egypt and still today in the Iroquois tribe of Indians.

What surprised me is the recent knowledge that Edgar Cayce predicted all of this in his reading on exactly who the Mound Builders were!!!!

Anthropologists once believed North and South America had initially been populated by Asians crossing a land bridge connecting Asia and Alaska during the last Ice Age, some 20,000 years ago. However, recent genetic DNA analysis of Native Americans now places the initial wave of migration between 38,000 to 50,000 years ago.

Genetic DNA analysis can trace the ethnic tribal lineage, and thereby land of the origin, of a human being.

Native American tribes contain four distinct DNA groupings, designated A, B, C and D. These groupings are found in Asia but not in Europe or Africa. While 96 percent of all indigenous natives in North and South America fall within A, B, C and D, there was a mysterious four percent, dubbed Group X, which could not be explained.Type X subjects were not found in the vast majority of tribes, including none in South America. It was also determined Type X subjects arrived in North America 10,000 to 38,000 years ago, later than the other groups.

By far, the highest concentration of Type X in Europe was found in the Basques, a race of Caucasians who live in the Pyrenees Mountains between Spain and France. And the highest frequency of Type X in the entire world was found in the Berbers, a race of Caucasians who live in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco in North Africa.

The Basques and Berbers have long puzzled anthropologists, linguists and historians because they don’t seem to fit into their continental surroundings."

Source: http://www.michaelleehill.net/eastlake-ohio-home-of-recent-mass-ufo-sightings-revealed-as-the-home-of-the-mound-builders-one-of-the-fabled-lost-nationstribes-the-nephilim/

[Michelle Marie]

A lot of different peoples "merged" and you can find a variety of blood types in a single family unit. Is there any significance to these blood types?
You mention the Basques who are noted to have a high level of Rh negative blood. Does this indicate anything that would tie in with the Annunaki or other ET race?
Maybe there already is another thread that formerly discusses these questions?
Thanks for the commentaries.
MM

Hi Michelle Marie
I find Robert Sepehr to be a fascinating source for what you are asking.
This short 8 minute video is really great for breaking down what you are asking.
This video is making some amazing correlations.
This is a very short and really good video.
In this video we see a correlation of four ancient native races who were white skinned, blond/red haired and blue eyed people who have high concentrations of RH Negative Blood.
The Basque of the Pyranese Mountains, The Native Berbers of North West Africa who hail from the areas of Morroco, The Quanchas from the island of Tenerife in the Canary Islands, and the most ancient of Egyptian Mummies which have been noted to have red hair.
It is noted that the Basque's are quoted in this video as saying they have descended from Antlantica, a great sea faring nation that was destroyed to a great cataclysm.
Many of these cultures have left mummies behind.
The Quanches left pyramids behind.
Fascinating stuff.
It seems the giants of North America with red hair could very well have been refugees fleeing Atlantis as well. http://www.ancient-code.com/bloodtyp...-with-amnesia/ (http://www.ancient-code.com/bloodtype-rh-negative-and-our-alien-dna-an-otherworldly-lineage-of-a-species-with-amnesia/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls_ZtM1Itzs
ls_ZtM1Itzs

I really enjoyed that video.:o

Thank you, we-R-one!
MM

[Michelle Marie]

Again, the Atlanteans were not the Annunaki. This is your addition, Cayce stated nothing of the sort.

No, the Atlanteans were definitely not the Annunaki. But in the last Epoch of Atlantis, there was a very negative possibly outside influence that played a big role in their eventual downfall. That negativity was invited in because it promised them Power (this intrusion may have been the Annunaki, I don't know). Whatever the case, the ruling classes of Atlantis welcomed it. They were every bit as ambitious, avaricious, and depraved as...funnily enough, the ruling classes of today. That's probably because they're one and the same.

I don't know for sure what part the 'Annunaki' played in Atlantis. After all, they are just a name. There are many names, and there are those who go by many names. What's most important is, that everything that happened before, in Atlantis, is happening again. Today. We are Atlantis reborn, but this time it stretches from ocean to ocean, coast to coast, pole to pole. And it is my firm belief we have reached the same point in the Great Human Drama that Atlantis did. We have reached the very same brink. They fell over the edge. Should humanity fall again, this time round it will fall very, very hard. It will be on a global scale this time.

But we can be the change, we can be the energy, the positivity, that breaks the cycle of self-destruction. There is a different road for humanity to walk if it so chooses (one without the Annunaki or any other interfering force).

Yes, and your quote at the bottom says it all: the majority are expressing the power of love while firmly demanding -- and Being -- Peace.

Jimi Hendrix -- "When the power of love overcomes the love of power then the world will know peace."
:bearhug:MM

[DNA]

I've worked on my past life cases since 2011 with the help of Dr. Walter Semkiw, Kevin Ryerson and Paul Von Ward, all experts in the field. I understand the methodologies used to make proper past life identifications which is why I'm so confident.
So have you integrated those personalities into your own?
Have you acquired the skills of some of your past lives?
Have you ever woken from a session, picked up a hammer and an anvil and pounded out a sword?
Glimpses into past lives doesn't provide you with the knowledge and know how to make presumptions like you do.
I dare say Edgar Cayce himself wouldn't start a post as presumptuous as you do.






If you take the time to research each of the individuals I mentioned above, you can see these are top experts. Paul Von Ward actually used Biometrics to measure my face in order to assist in making a proper past life identification to Mary Queen of Scots.
You could have been Priscilla Princess of the Desert, bottom line is.
I don't care.
You want to know why, because it doesn't matter. And further more it shouldn't matter to anyone other than yourself.
Your attempt at name dropping has the exact opposite effect of impressing me.





Do you know what BIOMETRICS is? Do you know the FBI uses BIOMETRICS to make proper identifications of people? Additionally, Paul used other methodologies, which you can read about on his website, so it's not just how you look that makes a compelling case. Of course you won't take the time to do any of this as you've already made your mind up. I personally flew out to his house to work with him along with my research partner. I'll share a little tip with you....YOU CAN'T FAKE BIOMETRICS . Again, I cannot go into great detail here as it's an equivalent to writing a book and this isn't the appropriate thread. MY HANDS ARE TIED, so keep that in mind.
I think you are misunderstanding me.
It's not that I don't believe in past lives. I absolutely do.
It's that I do not care about them.
I do not care about my own past lives. I just don't.
So why would I care about yours? I do not.
Does that make sense?



The reason Truman Cash and I can see the value in understanding past lives identities is because we've done the homework,
Or your obsessing over something that has no real effect on the present and isn't helping anything at all.
You see it your way, I'll see it mine.
I wouldn't be replying if you weren't insinuating that folks are lazy and or lagging behind in their spiritual studies if they haven't done what you have done.
Your path isn't necessarily the path for everyone, and while you seem to think there is a lot of value in it, I personally do not.
So you've done some past life research, do you need a medal for that?
It again in no way provides you with an expert opinion on what we are talking about on this thread in terms of the Annunaki.
If you had pertinent information maybe you would spend more time sharing it and less time telling us what an expert you are based on some past life mumbo jumbo incarnations.





which is why most can't, as they've explored none of it. It's more than just who you were, it's what it implies as there is a story within a story which is what you'll find when you've made proper identifications.
Again you seem to insinuate that folks need to follow your path or they can't properly understand spirituality.
And again I will say that is not the case.
More often than not this is a dead end of self adulation and egomania.
But this has just my experience when trying to deal with folks who wish to make us all students to their fabulous expertise in this regard.





Both of us, in different ways have been sharing with Avalonians the value of our findings.
Look Truman Cash just puts his stuff out there. He doesn't get preachy and or insinuate that other people are not "doing their homework".
You two are not in the same category as far as I'm concerned.





God knows why we bother because you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't, that is the impression I'm left with by some of the posters on Avalon. If I post too much information, I'm told I fancy myself, if I do youtube videos, set up a blog, website, et al, then I'll be accused of self promotion...it's a no win situation and it won't matter what I do, someone will make dumb a$$ remarks to counter anything you share or say. It's absolutely ridiculous! Who even wants to post anything?
If you put the information out there and stop making it about you then maybe you will get different results.
I'm drawn into this discussion with you because you come off self adulating and needing of a cultic following.
The fact you now tell me that this has been the repeated criticism of you by others leads me to think maybe you should ponder that for a moment or two.




I posted scientific evidence backing my statement, in which you stated 'I don't need to' in regards to looking at it ....So you're just throwing that out of the thought processing equation? SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE through blood samples which means they're using DNA. Really??
I understand the mitochondrial dna research being done to trace migration patterns. I read that book the year it was published.
I've told you I understand and agree with Edgar Cayce's premise that Antlantean refugee migrations can be traced here, I just disagree with your stating that Antlantean and Annunaki are the same thing.


You also misquoted and are accusing me wrongly at the bottom of your last post here:



And although Edgar Cayce makes correlations with certain Native Americans and they having come from Atlantis, Edgar does not in anyway make a correlation to the Annunaki, that is your interpretation and your imagination.

https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/ancient-dna-research/

Cayce indicated that the largest migration from Atlantis occurred just before 10,000 B.C. The majority of these Atlantean survivors went to the Northeastern coastal areas of America and Canada becoming the Iroquois. It should be recalled that Cayce also stated that not all of the Iroquois were Atlantean. The Atlanteans migrating to the Americas merged with the people already present in America by that time. The Atlanteans became leaders of the tribes and Cayce’s story makes it clear that the Atlanteans had serious disputes among themselves that were reflected in ongoing violent conflict. This was the struggle between the Belial and Law of One groups. This is confirmed by the Iroquois’ ancient history that tells of constant battles resulting in distant displacements of entire tribes to ensure their survival. Perhaps the most astonishing confirmation of Cayce’s story of ancient America is the presence of haplogroup X. What is known is that the X haplogroup first showed up in America perhaps 34,000 years ago, but its main entry occurred in 10,000 B.C. matching Mr. Cayce’s time frame for Atlantean migrations. The X group also appears to have shown up in ancient Iberia and in the Basques about the same time as well as in the Gobi. These dates match Cayce’s story of the final two destructions of Atlantis and the resulting migrations to these areas.
surprised me is the recent knowledge that Edgar Cayce predicted all of thWhat is in his reading on exactly who the Mound Builders were!!!!
Again, the Atlanteans were not the Annunaki. This is your addition, Cayce stated nothing of the sort.

That wasn't my personal statement or 'interpretation' or 'imagination' as you're implying, it was a quote taken from the link I provided off of Michael Lee Hill's website, so take it up with him and The Edgar Cayce Association he cited on his page.

I didn't cite the book either, your mis-reading:


Look I've read the book you are citing.
http://www.edgarcaycebooks.org/images/moundbuildersdrop.gif


Apparently someone believes his work(Michael Lee Hill) as his story was on UFO HUNTERS with Bill Birnes, but honestly the DNA evidence says it all and that's where I'd place my focus to confirm his findings.

Sadly, you've proven a statement I've reluctantly had to make on Avalon before....that unfortunately people can't/won't read and are unable to process the information placed before them.

If you find that I agree within the confines of the Atlantis exodus then why don't we work from there?

[we-R-one]

I've worked on my past life cases since 2011 with the help of Dr. Walter Semkiw, Kevin Ryerson and Paul Von Ward, all experts in the field. I understand the methodologies used to make proper past life identifications which is why I'm so confident.
So have you integrated those personalities into your own? Have you acquired the skills of some of your past lives? Have you ever woken from a session, picked up a hammer and an anvil and pounded out a sword? Glimpses into past lives doesn't provide you with the knowledge and know how to make presumptions like you do. I dare say Edgar Cayce himself wouldn't start a post as presumptuous as you do.

Your questions have nothing to do with the topic of this thread. You mistake being presumptuous with humor and confidence in my research work. I’m not Edgar Cayce and never will be, so to compare him to me is silly and ridiculous. I’m my own person, not a clone of Edgar Cayce and neither is anyone else. In the end of this conversation you accuse me of cultish behavior and yet your postings of everything being about Casey seems cultish in itself! There are additional researchers out there who do good work besides Cayce. I just feel the need to point that out. The above was brought up so you and the viewer understood my background as to how and where some of my knowledge base came from.

Completely disagree with the bolded statement! The only way you can understand this is if you do case study, which you’ve already stated “I don't hold the research in high esteem. I consider the research unnecessary and overrated.”. This is typical of someone who’s never researched the topic and/or explored in depth their own past lives.

Doing so enables one to identify patterns and if you have enough documented cases to work with you will see patterns. And if you’re lucky enough to have Biometrics to assist in the identification process, you can then feel confident with your discoveries as Biometrics confirms without a doubt you are that person.




If you take the time to research each of the individuals I mentioned above, you can see these are top experts. Paul Von Ward actually used Biometrics to measure my face in order to assist in making a proper past life identification to Mary Queen of Scots.

You could have been Priscilla Princess of the Desert, bottom line is. I don't care. You want to know why, because it doesn't matter. And further more it shouldn't matter to anyone other than yourself. Your attempt at name dropping has the exact opposite effect of impressing me.
And this is where you get lost and don’t seem to understand or care for the value of what can be uncovered when studying one’s past lives. It has nothing to do with ‘impressing you’ or anyone else, and..it’s not about name dropping!! This is the meme stuck in your head that you are soo sure that’s the motivation behind my exploration which is completely inaccurate. In order to use Biometrics you have to have a case where you're a documented person, otherwise there's nothing to measure! Which means you have to have a name! Again, I was giving you and the reader background so you would know the basis of why I believe what I believe and where my experience comes from!

Remember I said, it’s not who I was that’s important…IT’S WHAT IT IMPLIES. And you can't explain the implications if you don't state names to show why! In my posts I’ve shared on Avalon about my confirmed identities and why they’re significant, which I can’t keep posting in every thread for obvious reasons, nor can I post all the details…..I have found through studying my core past lives:

1. The Archangels and Essenes are one in the same
2. 3’s and 7’s following me from one incarnation to the next in addition to those in my soul group which suggests ties to Jesus and the Greek ‘gods’, meaning E.T.’s
3. The Greek ‘gods’ and Essenses are the same people
4. You are incarnating back into your bloodlines
5. The royal lines are where you can find the E.T.’s reincarnating
6. The patterns I can identify suggest the Computer Simulation Theory is accurate
7. I can tell people are being strategically placed (Geomancy)(ley lines)
8. Being a famous person more than once is not crap, it’s tied to Geomancy and the soul group whence you came because it's not only happening to me, I'm seeing it happen with others

These are some of the things I learned and plenty more, too many to list. When you’re confident in your identities you then begin to figure out those close to you as it’s part of the process, which further enhances the information by identifying similar patterns which assist in your understanding of the bigger story.



Do you know what BIOMETRICS is? Do you know the FBI uses BIOMETRICS to make proper identifications of people? Additionally, Paul used other methodologies, which you can read about on his website, so it's not just how you look that makes a compelling case. Of course you won't take the time to do any of this as you've already made your mind up. I personally flew out to his house to work with him along with my research partner. I'll share a little tip with you....YOU CAN'T FAKE BIOMETRICS . Again, I cannot go into great detail here as it's an equivalent to writing a book and this isn't the appropriate thread. MY HANDS ARE TIED, so keep that in mind.
I think you are misunderstanding me. It's not that I don't believe in past lives. I absolutely do. It's that I do not care about them. I do not care about my own past lives. I just don't. So why would I care about yours? I do not. Does that make sense?
I’ve already partly explained this. You’re saying to me this is all mumbo jumbo. I bring up Biometrics because it’s exactly why it’s not ‘mumbo jumbo’. If you don’t understand the process you won’t see the value. Keep in mind there are others reading this thread who may be interested, so when I’m posting it’s not curtailed just for your preferences.





The reason Truman Cash and I can see the value in understanding past lives identities is because we've done the homework,

Or your obsessing over something that has no real effect on the present and isn't helping anything at all. You see it your way, I'll see it mine. I wouldn't be replying if you weren't insinuating that folks are lazy and or lagging behind in their spiritual studies if they haven't done what you have done. Your path isn't necessarily the path for everyone, and while you seem to think there is a lot of value in it, I personally do not. So you've done some past life research, do you need a medal for that? It again in no way provides you with an expert opinion on what we are talking about on this thread in terms of the Annunaki.

It’s not obsessing, that’s your improper interpretation and insecurity that you are perpetuating onto me. Again you are taking what I say completely out of context. I gave information on the Tom DeLonge thread 3 months prior to Tom stating the same thing, which I obtained through knowing my identities and following the proper patterns so, imo, it can help and that’s my point, as I can sometimes see what’s true and what’s not based on what I’ve learned. You can’t see it as you’ve clearly stated you see no value in it and you wouldn’t, because you haven’t studied it in great depth.

People don’t read, I NEVER SAID ‘LAGGING IN THEIR SPIRITUAL STUDIES’….stop taking my words out of context! Some have been honest enough to post stating the very same, they’re guilty of not reading, so my statement is factual and bang on. Unfortunately if you’re not a reader, you will miss important facts that members are sharing. There’s no getting around it. This poses a problem because they then don’t understand the complexities of topics in these threads making communication and understanding difficult. It’s exactly why you won’t see me in every thread. I don’t have time to be an expert in every topic and can’t fairly read everyone’s posts to properly comment.

I NEVER INSINUATED I HAD AN EXPERT OPINION ON THE ANUNNAKI! You are again proving my point that you struggle to read and process information. I do have much experience in researching reincarnation cases and methodology practices know as ‘objectives’.


If you had pertinent information maybe you would spend more time sharing it and less time telling us what an expert you are based on some past life mumbo jumbo incarnations.

I did! Gee sorry it wasn’t to your approval! I posted an article where a guy by the name of Michael Lee Hill demonstrated Nephilim Bloodline through the North America Native Indians with DNA evidence in the form of Haplogroup X. I just randomly found the article as I was posting on this thread and I thought it would be of interest because it was validating my own discoveries via studying reincarnation. You stated:
“You have to realize that if you were born human then you are no longer of an ET race. Your present incarnation would trump whatever past affiliations your soul may have had.”-DNA

Because I’ve spent so much time researching past lives which you call ‘mumbo jumbo’ I knew what you were saying, as worded above, wasn’t matching what I’ve come to know to be true. The article discusses how this guy, Michael Lee Hill, who says he’s the reincarnation of Enki, reincarnated back into this own bloodline, something myself and research partner were noticing in our own cases. This is where the knowledge of Geomancy would come in handy. There is a vibratory/frequency aspect we don’t fully understand yet and I believe it will tie into the Computer Simulation Theory because it will be numerical based. Just because we don’t understand it yet, doesn’t mean it’s not true! Your present incarnation does not trump past soul affiliations as you are not randomly incarnating.



which is why most can't, as they've explored none of it. It's more than just who you were, it's what it implies as there is a story within a story which is what you'll find when you've made proper identifications.
Again you seem to insinuate that folks need to follow your path or they can't properly understand spirituality. And again I will say that is not the case. More often than not this is a dead end of self adulation and egomania. But this has just my experience when trying to deal with folks who wish to make us all students to their fabulous expertise in this regard.

Again you seem to take my words out of context. And again you miss the point in my sharing by making false claims and projections of your own issues onto me. Where did I say people need to follow my path?? Where did I say they can’t properly understand spirituality?? Are you just talking to yourself? I’m stating it’s difficult for people to understand the value because they’re not doing the proper research! I ‘get’ that everyone can’t be knowledgeable about every topic. The challenge comes for those of us who have taken the time, to try and explain and share with others who can’t always grasp a multi-layered subject unless they’re willing to study at length and read.



God knows why we bother because you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't, that is the impression I'm left with by some of the posters on Avalon. If I post too much information, I'm told I fancy myself, if I do youtube videos, set up a blog, website, et al, then I'll be accused of self promotion...it's a no win situation and it won't matter what I do, someone will make dumb a$$ remarks to counter anything you share or say. It's absolutely ridiculous! Who even wants to post anything?
If you put the information out there and stop making it about you then maybe you will get different results. I'm drawn into this discussion with you because you come off self adulating and needing of a cultic following. The fact you now tell me that this has been the repeated criticism of you by others leads me to think maybe you should ponder that for a moment or two.

In your mind I come off as ‘self adulating’ because you DON’T UNDERSTAND THE CONTENT OF THE MATERIAL and how could you if you see no worth? Again, by your own admission you call it ‘mumbo jumbo’ and could care less, so you will not see the value or my viewpoint. I use my cases as examples when they're pertinent to the conversation because I know them well and I don’t need to ask permission to use them! If I was asking for a ‘cultic’ following I would be selling crap, making videos and all the other ‘cultish’ behavior these individuals do. I’m not even close! Please re-read my last statement above starting with , ‘it’s a no win situation….

To understand the intentions of the Elohim race or even The Anunnaki, you need to know who they were in several of their past lives so you can watch their spiritual growth or lack thereof.

One more thing, to address your Glen Beck comments on post #169, that video wasn’t posted by me, it was in the article I posted by Michael Lee Hill. The most important factor I wanted people to see from Michael's article, was the DNA research. I mentioned I was still pounding through the article as I had just found it. You stated, ‘after your Glen Beck chalkboard routine…..’ Why do you keep making improper insinuations? FWIW I don't like Glen Beck myself.

I've patiently addressed as many of your questions as I can, I won't answer anymore because it's taking away from the topic at hand. I don't think it's a coincidence that many leaders from the past are stepping forward and talking about their past life connections. Jason Quitt, Michael Lee Hill, James McColl, Dr. Walter Semkiw, and myself to name a few. Michael Lee Hill's connection to Anunnaki is a great case study to watch and I think in time you will see the same correlations to other E.T. races.

[Catsquotl]

I had a horrible thought last samhain night...
What if we really are made by the annunaki and they put a bit of their soul into us.
Such that we are really created by them and upon death the ONE our soul is longing to re-merge with is an annunaki creature..

with love
Gave me the halloween chills

[Leonard]

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

Hi again, All:

I was re-reading this paragraph above and realized that it gave the wrong impression. Sitchin did indeed translate his works from the Sumerian (he was a gifted scholar), but was guided by channeled information in the many instances where the meaning was not clear, or was ambiguous.

This accounts for the differences of opinion between him and other Sumerian scholars, who have ridiculed some of his interpretations.

I remain 100% certain that Sitchin's claims that the Anunnaki are riding around on Nibiru were disinformation coming from the Anunnaki themselves. The Anunnaki have advanced spacecraft and can certainly travel around the solar system freely any time they want. Where their home planet really is, I have no idea and have never heard (Henry Deacon didn't know either).

Hi Bill, you might want to update this paragraph for new readers, many thanks~~

[sigma6]

This guy talks all day long about Anu... and shows how the word and symbolism is EVERYWHERE... (like even today...) Apparently he is the same god re-inventing himself over and over (like Madonna...) I've never seen anyone put it together so succinctly... so profoundly... this is a must watch...

How It All Fits Together...
ZmesrdLTDTU

[kfm27917]

I found the book today at https://www.pdfdrive.com

[kfm27917]

There seems to be some relevant information in the "Terra Papers" available at
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sumer_annunaki.htm

[Bill Ryan]

I found the book today at https://www.pdfdrive.comI had to stop and think for a moment which book you were referring to. It's Michael Tellinger's Slave Species of God.

https://pdfdrive.com/slave-species-of-the-gods-the-secret-history-of-the-anunnaki-and-their-mission-on-earth-e200507049.html
(needs a free account to download)

It's also here in the Avalon Library:


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Michel%20Tellinger%20-%20Slave%20Species%20of%20god.pdf

[onawah]

I just came across this animated movie about the Annunaki, made in Brazil, with English subtitles
ANUNNAKI - Mensageiros do Vento (FULL MOVIE)
462,631 views•Feb 14, 2018

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[KristenMary]

This is one long thread! What I understand of the Annunaki is that Enki is in favour of saving or helping mankind. That Enki could be compared to Prometheus and/or even Lucifer/Satan - someone who asks us to question the gods and ourselves and think for ourselves, not to create evil but to give us knowledge and strength. I like Sitchin. Also, I love Robert Sepehr, very interesting ideas from these people.

[onawah]

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[Jim_Duyer]

Well, that explains why he never furnished his work - his translations, which actually do not exist in the Sumerian libraries. He claims to have translated Akkadian and not Sumerian, but his meanings are not in the Akkadian language either - so channeling seems about right. But it's a bit hard to qualify channeling.
I think he was paid by the NSA, and that the intelligence communities saw to it that his works received a great deal of attention and high sales and rankings. But his heart belonged to the Mossad.

[Jim_Duyer]

"What" were the Annunaki and Igigi and not "who" they were.

The terms Nephilim and the Watchers have the traditional meanings of extraterrestrial leaders who came down to earth to create hybrid children. In this report we will examine the themes from the Sumerian epics of the Annunaki and their underlings, the Igigig, in order to form our understanding of their connection, if any, to the biblical Watchers and Nephilim.

On quite a few websites you will find the terms Igigig and Watchers connected as if they were somehow cognate terms for the same beings. Actually, the only connection that I can discover is that the Hebrews very probably borrowed the original ideas for their Nephilim and Watchers from the Sumerian scribes. Luckily this does not matter to us, as it gave the Hebrew bible authors the opportunity to provide us with the hidden understandings for these terms. However, there is some information to be found by simply examining the words ourselves, and placing a meaning for them that is not connected to the biased translations of our scholars. This is a case of where the truth is out there, right in front of our eyes, but it has been hidden by the false translations of scholars.

The Igigi are said to be the group of sky-gods that rebelled against the harsh rule of Lord Enlil, and showed their displeasure at having to toil on his irrigation channels by setting their work tools on fire while surrounding Enlil's house one night.

Our Sumerian language scholars tell us that Igigi, sometimes spelled as Igigu, are simply sky-god underlings. They also attempt to convince us that the Sumerian logographic equivalent of the term is nun-gal-e-ne, with a meaning of "the great princes/sovereigns."

What they do not bother to provide us with, is any alternative translations for these same words. However I will do just that. Using the Sumerian dictionary, without changing a single character of either word, we can easily discover some interesting alternative meanings.

I have seen articles on websites that explain the "igi" as meaning "eye," with the "gi" as meaning "to deflower." This is simply incorrect. By looking in the Sumerian dictionary we can easily determine that the word in Sumerian that means "to deflower" is "a-gi," and not "gi." So what is the correct definition?

The first part of the word, Igi, has the traditional meaning of "eye or face." The characters "gi" mean "to kill, judgement." Using their own alternate spelling of "gu" we see that it means "force." Our scholars do not bother to tell us that the words Igigi and Igigu also mean "a watchful force, or eye of judgement, or watchful eye of death." All of these results are straight from their own dictionary, and can be easily confirmed in a few minutes. I do not intend to offer any "interpreted" meanings here; my idea is to show you the alternative meanings that are found inside of their own publications.

If we split the word differently, as we are allowed to do because it is a noun, and since the scholars have no intention of splitting something in order to provide a meaning contrary to the traditionally accepted one, we find yet another meaning.

"I = to remove, take away, to bring out," and "gi = kill, judgement," with "gu = force." A killing force used to take away the population? Suddenly we are finding that the Igigi, rather than simply being the subordinates of the Annunaki, represent the forces that are called out when the humans need to be taught a lesson or kept in line, even if it kills them.

Looking in our Sumerian dictionary, published by the top scholars in the field, we find that nun-gal-e-ne has a quite different meaning as well. "Nun = metal object," with "gal = big, great," and "e = socket or tube," with "ne = strength or force." Our new translation of "a big metal socket (disk-shaped) object that represents force," is not quite the same as theirs of "great princes," but equally as accurate. It really just depends upon your interpretation of the words, and obviously theirs has the agenda of keeping us in the dark and following the script that we are assigned by them. Please review my work in the Sumerian dictionary and you will be able to easily confirm that my translation is every bit as correct as theirs.

When the earliest Hebrew bible authors recalled portions of the Sumerian epic tales for their bible verses about the Watchers and the Nephilim, obviously they hid meanings for us that were very similar to the correct understanding of the Sumerian word for Igigi or Nun-Gal-E-Ne, as we have seen above.

The Igigi were said to number 300, according to the Sumerian epic "Enuma Elish," and in the biblical verses the Watchers were supposedly a group of 200. In both cases they represent the subgroup under the command of the Annunaki or sky-gods. Was the reduction in their numbers from 300 to 200 simply a result of the thousand years time that passed between the cuneiform writing and the Hebrew biblical tale? Could the extraterrestrials have lost as much as 100 of their ships during that time, or did they simply not find it necessary to deploy as many?

The traditional translation for the word Annunaki also falls short of the true and complete story. This is done by using one of two methods: first they often spell it without the ki on the end, or they change the ki to ke, without explanation. (Although misspelling the suffix does lend support to their version.) The second way is by changing the word to read "anunaki" which completely ignores the first syllables of an-nun. The meaning that they provide for us, "the gods as a whole," is therefore born of deception.

The Annunaki are the senior sky-gods, said to be a group of seven, and they form a type of council of gods that makes decisions over the Igigi enforcers. Only when the Igigi revolt from their hard labors is humankind created as a substitute or slave labor force.

We are told that the Annunaki are the "children of An and Ki," or the children of the supreme sky-god An, and the earth. This not only makes no sense, because Enlil, and not An, was responsible for the creation of mankind, but it also flies in the face of their own explanation that the Anunnaki are the seven sky-god council leaders, and thus in no way are they connected with the planet earth. They had the Igigi to do their dirty work in enforcing the human populations.

Let's examine both spellings of Annunaki and Anunaki, and see what the Sumerian dictionary provides for us as their correct meanings. "An = sky or heaven," and "Nun = metal object or combat," with "a = strength or power," and "ki = the earth."

This seems to tell us of a metal object from the sky, with power over the earth. And "a = wing," with "nu = night bird," and "na = man," with "ki = down below." Or a winged night bird above mankind down below. Which is a fairly good description of a mother ship that circled the earth, that was home to the sky-god council known as the Annunaki.

But our scholars never mentioned either of these alternative meanings in their literature. And why not? Because the majority of them do not and never have, given any serious credence to the existence of extraterrestrials during the days of the Sumerians and the biblical period. By providing us with "their" definitions for these terms, we see that open-minded and scientific research was not very evident.

Whenever you run across a noun or other word in the Sumerian language, be sure to do your own research to confirm the proper definition of the term, without having to depend upon the work of others, no matter how many initials they have after their name. Scientists tend to apply a meaning that fits their preconceived ideas, and are not shy about editing, modifying or discarding any proofs that point to a position contrary to theirs.

This post was done to disseminate the truth about our ancient history, and to make up for the "Sitchin" ideas. Please furnish your thoughts on this.

Here is a link to the Sumerian Dictionary, placed online by the University of Pennsylvania, so that you can confirm each and every one of my translations:

http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/nepsd-frame.html


I welcome those who wish to confirm my work.

[9ideon]

To me this story is just a version or re-telling of the stories we find everywhere, Old Race, 2 brothers, fighting, rebellion etc. I never felt the Sumerian story had any credibility, more so, it looks like it is from a set of plays depicting stories of a pre-flood war mixed in with affairs for the people at that time, fiction laced with truth. At that time the Sumerians were at least 6000 years (!) from the source of whatever happened back then, probably longer if we go all the way back to when we were altered from the source creature. All these stories which are now circling around are nothing more than delivery stories with elements of truth in them (loads of elements non the less). We were never built as a slave Race, never! We would have been defeated at some stage and enslaved after, but we were never intended as one. All those stories, Tower of Babel included are proof of the fact that we were divided, manipulated and dispersed by a bunch of creatures proclaiming themselves Gods to a Race with Amnesia, now living in Stone/copper aged settlements.

The Human Race is kept in a Beast system *yes like what Christians claim*, just simpler I guess. What is a Beast system? You are (we as a Race) diminished to elementary living, eat, drink, house and pro-create. Drugs in the form of money (divides us as well) makes sure that we are kept in that system because we are not able to concentrate on other things since we must have money to ensure elementary living conditions, we are all addicted to gathering the money for elementary living purposes. We are basically still hunter gatherers, we never left that stage in our existence really. As a species we can never progress because not one single individual will be allowed to rise to the ranks of the very rich (so-called elite) without committing to the game, below those ranks you must play as well to keep the status, more importantly the money you have. If you do not commit to the "game"you will be degraded to the lower ranks of the system again. Obviously we ask ourselves many (existential) questions, they will always be answered by the same type of story and or evolve into religions over time. Even the larger Religions basically tell you that you are a slave, bow down to their Deity or else! Lies laced with truth.

All these stories, fabrications laced with truth are here to keep you and all others from finding it, the truth. However it's coming soon, there's no doubt in my mind, I just wish soon is now.

Ahh well, just my opinion anyway.

[TomKat]

Well, that explains why he never furnished his work - his translations, which actually do not exist in the Sumerian libraries. He claims to have translated Akkadian and not Sumerian, but his meanings are not in the Akkadian language either - so channeling seems about right. But it's a bit hard to qualify channeling.
I think he was paid by the NSA, and that the intelligence communities saw to it that his works received a great deal of attention and high sales and rankings. But his heart belonged to the Mossad.

Kay Griggs fingered Sitchin as part of the secret society her husband belonged to.

[Jim_Duyer]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

[onawah]

I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

[Jim_Duyer]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

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I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Also, before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read, and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop, where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms :bearhug::sherlock:

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this "reality" from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

There's a Russian guy who has some interesting vids etc to do with this, watch this video, replace the melting with cutting, I think it's a translation error. You will also immediately understand how some "Ancient" sites were able to have precise cuts in stone, hard stone. Basically because they are leftover ruins from before, not after.

BsqOLCXYznE

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

I have a question for you

Let's say frequencies are good, but now tell me, "frequencies of what"

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

What "mechanism" would that be, expand on that?

You did not reply to my "frequencies of what" question :)

Let's push this strong <3

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

What "mechanism" would that be, expand on that?

You did not reply to my "frequencies of what" question :)

Let's push this strong <3

The mechanics of the workings of this realm, it will recognize you as something that you really are not, pretending to be something you aren't and using this to manipulate reality. It basically happens all the time, it's not something spectacular or innovating, it's as old as life, lol.

I don't see where you posted the full question on your last comment, you'd need to repeat the context.

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

See as a crazy scientist, i can decompose this into small parts that don't make any sense, so i just want to show you why, here

By creating a bubble around you
A bubble of what?


the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not
What is the before and what is the after? In specific terms?
What is the mechanism and how do you know about it and how it works?
Are you above it, so you can see it working from afar, without being affected by it?



Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment

Because...



think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

Yes, but since you did not really explained all the previous things this could mean anything, like playing a game online or real hunting on the wilderness and stuff like that

I'm just looking for answers, just as you, is just that i question hard, please don't hate me for it <3

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

What "mechanism" would that be, expand on that?

You did not reply to my "frequencies of what" question :)

Let's push this strong <3

The mechanics of the workings of this realm, it will recognize you as something that you really are not, pretending to be something you aren't and using this to manipulate reality. It basically happens all the time, it's not something spectacular or innovating, it's as old as life, lol.

I don't see where you posted the full question on your last comment, you'd need to repeat the context.


See my previous reply, above this one

"Frequencies of what"

There's all kinds of frequencies, how frequent you eat yoghurt for example, how much time you go to the bathroom, how many times you eat every day, how many times the sun goes rampage and destroys humanity on earth, how many times the galaxy cycles, or the planets do a full round across, or the earth does a year around the sun, or the moon does a round around the earth.. Anyways, frequencies

Frequencies of what? Energy? Which kind?

Here's Mozart at a 528hz frequency, you can't deny his exceptional
ZZTsuhtDVcQ

And here is also Mozart, but at a lower frequency, still amazing and exeptional
BI8Y44J6MgI

For comparison, Audio transmissions from space to NASA are like 136~138 Mhz

So please define "frequencies"

Frequencies of "life", "awareness"? That word is "difficult" to say the least

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

See as a crazy scientist, i can decompose this into small parts that don't make any sense, so i just want to show you why, here

By creating a bubble around you
A bubble of what?


the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not
What is the before and what is the after? In specific terms?
What is the mechanism and how do you know about it and how it works?
Are you above it, so you can see it working from afar, without being affected by it?



Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment

Because...



think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

Yes, but since you did not really explained all the previous things this could mean anything, like playing a game online or real hunting on the wilderness and stuff like that

I'm just looking for answers, just as you, is just that i question hard, please don't hate me for it <3

A bubble of what? Simple, if you need to travel from a-b and I need to travel a really long distance, I'll use that vibration tech, basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement, it is very much like a warp concept I guess, the only difference is is that I pretend to be something in the Universe which I am not (animal reference), for instance a particle. In this manner size does not matter, because the mechanics do not look at size, but at the workings, if it obeys the law of the mechanics it is supposed to be dwelling in, then it must be treated as such. In the case of a craft you're in it, one needs to create that 1st bubble, around it the second one to fool. The entire Universe is a freguential grid, as you might already know, this is how navigation is made easy.

In the case of the suit, like a cloaking suit, you just need to create a bubble around the suit for it to work, you fool someone's eyes and the mechanics of the reality, it's really not that complicated, you just need to see it in your mind.

Your comment about all the stored info (Universal), I guess that's a question for the non-linear, not my dept, lol. And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.

Every frequency has an appliance one can harvest. For instance the harvesting of the frequency of an earthquake might give you a tool to ensure destruction of an entire walled city for instance. It's actually quite endless and completely Natural, especially the last part is important, not because of the environment, lol, but simply because we are literary surrounded by it.

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

See as a crazy scientist, i can decompose this into small parts that don't make any sense, so i just want to show you why, here

By creating a bubble around you
A bubble of what?


the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not
What is the before and what is the after? In specific terms?
What is the mechanism and how do you know about it and how it works?
Are you above it, so you can see it working from afar, without being affected by it?



Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment

Because...



think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

Yes, but since you did not really explained all the previous things this could mean anything, like playing a game online or real hunting on the wilderness and stuff like that

I'm just looking for answers, just as you, is just that i question hard, please don't hate me for it <3

A bubble of what? Simple, if you need to travel from a-b and I need to travel a really long distance, I'll use that vibration tech, basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement, it is very much like a warp concept I guess, the only difference is is that I pretend to be something in the Universe which I am not (animal reference), for instance a particle. In this manner size does not matter, because the mechanics do not look at size, but at the workings, if it obeys the law of the mechanics it is supposed to be dwelling in, then it must be treated as such. In the case of a craft you're in it, one needs to create that 1st bubble, around it the second one to fool. The entire Universe is a freguential grid, as you might already know, this is how navigation is made easy.

In the case of the suit, like a cloaking suit, you just need to create a bubble around the suit for it to work, you fool someone's eyes and the mechanics of the reality, it's really not that complicated, you just need to see it in your mind.

Your comment about all the stored info (Universal), I guess that's a question for the non-linear, not my dept, lol. And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.



basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement

You did not read anything i said....



And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.

It's ok, i don't mind, as long as it makes you question more, as i do every day :)

But let me point this out

"Frequencies" are not 'objects', so you can't create/destroy them

So, think about this, how are you "creating frequencies around you" when a frequency is not, and can't be an object?

I'm not a monster, i just question beyond, it makes people angry a lot of the time

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

See as a crazy scientist, i can decompose this into small parts that don't make any sense, so i just want to show you why, here

By creating a bubble around you
A bubble of what?


the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not
What is the before and what is the after? In specific terms?
What is the mechanism and how do you know about it and how it works?
Are you above it, so you can see it working from afar, without being affected by it?



Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment

Because...



think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

Yes, but since you did not really explained all the previous things this could mean anything, like playing a game online or real hunting on the wilderness and stuff like that

I'm just looking for answers, just as you, is just that i question hard, please don't hate me for it <3

A bubble of what? Simple, if you need to travel from a-b and I need to travel a really long distance, I'll use that vibration tech, basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement, it is very much like a warp concept I guess, the only difference is is that I pretend to be something in the Universe which I am not (animal reference), for instance a particle. In this manner size does not matter, because the mechanics do not look at size, but at the workings, if it obeys the law of the mechanics it is supposed to be dwelling in, then it must be treated as such. In the case of a craft you're in it, one needs to create that 1st bubble, around it the second one to fool. The entire Universe is a freguential grid, as you might already know, this is how navigation is made easy.

In the case of the suit, like a cloaking suit, you just need to create a bubble around the suit for it to work, you fool someone's eyes and the mechanics of the reality, it's really not that complicated, you just need to see it in your mind.

Your comment about all the stored info (Universal), I guess that's a question for the non-linear, not my dept, lol. And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.



basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement

You did not read anything i said....



And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.

It's ok, i don't mind, as long as it makes you question more, as i do every day :)

But let me point this out

"Frequencies" are not 'objects', so you can't create/destroy them

So, think about this, how are you "creating frequencies around you" when a frequency is not, and can't be an object?

I'm not a monster, i just question beyond, it makes people angry a lot of the time

I did.


Every frequency has an appliance one can harvest. For instance the harvesting of the frequency of an earthquake might give you a tool to ensure destruction of an entire walled city for instance. It's actually quite endless and completely Natural, especially the last part is important, not because of the environment, lol, but simply because we are literary surrounded by it.

Dwell on it for a while, it'll pop in place once you see it.

[Mashika]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

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I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

See as a crazy scientist, i can decompose this into small parts that don't make any sense, so i just want to show you why, here

By creating a bubble around you
A bubble of what?


the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not
What is the before and what is the after? In specific terms?
What is the mechanism and how do you know about it and how it works?
Are you above it, so you can see it working from afar, without being affected by it?



Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment

Because...



think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

Yes, but since you did not really explained all the previous things this could mean anything, like playing a game online or real hunting on the wilderness and stuff like that

I'm just looking for answers, just as you, is just that i question hard, please don't hate me for it <3

A bubble of what? Simple, if you need to travel from a-b and I need to travel a really long distance, I'll use that vibration tech, basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement, it is very much like a warp concept I guess, the only difference is is that I pretend to be something in the Universe which I am not (animal reference), for instance a particle. In this manner size does not matter, because the mechanics do not look at size, but at the workings, if it obeys the law of the mechanics it is supposed to be dwelling in, then it must be treated as such. In the case of a craft you're in it, one needs to create that 1st bubble, around it the second one to fool. The entire Universe is a freguential grid, as you might already know, this is how navigation is made easy.

In the case of the suit, like a cloaking suit, you just need to create a bubble around the suit for it to work, you fool someone's eyes and the mechanics of the reality, it's really not that complicated, you just need to see it in your mind.

Your comment about all the stored info (Universal), I guess that's a question for the non-linear, not my dept, lol. And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.



basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement

You did not read anything i said....



And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.

It's ok, i don't mind, as long as it makes you question more, as i do every day :)

But let me point this out

"Frequencies" are not 'objects', so you can't create/destroy them

So, think about this, how are you "creating frequencies around you" when a frequency is not, and can't be an object?

I'm not a monster, i just question beyond, it makes people angry a lot of the time

I did.


Every frequency has an appliance one can harvest. For instance the harvesting of the frequency of an earthquake might give you a tool to ensure destruction of an entire walled city for instance. It's actually quite endless and completely Natural, especially the last part is important, not because of the environment, lol, but simply because we are literary surrounded by it.

Dwell on it for a while, it'll pop in place once you see it.

Remember this from school days?



The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed

Is, one again, not the "frequency" but "what" is so frequently sent out there, or in there

So, we cycled back to what i asked

"Frequencies of what"?

You are considering frequencies themselves as a form of energy. Instead of some kind of energy being released at some specific frequency...


"Frequencies of what"?

[Mashika]

Here's a game you may like a lot, it doesn't require another person but it's a lot better if you are at least two

This is a game i can trace back to like 200 years ago in my family xi xi, so i appreciate it a lot :)

This is called the "why" game

It just has a few simple rules:

1. You ask a question,
2. The other person replies
3. You ask another question derived from the last reply
4. The other person replies and go back to step 3
5. If the other person can't reply, it's game over

Example:

A: Why the moon silver?
B: Because the sun's light hit it
A: Why does the sun light hits the moon?
B: Because light travels and reaches it
A: Why does the light travels and reaches it?
...

And so on

You can do this by yourself, on any possible question

Eventually you reach a point when there are no answers, at least not ones that were told to you by someone else

That's where you actually start "researching" into the topic you like and want to uncover... Anything before that, it was just "common knowledge"


:)

[9ideon]

I provided that info for a thread on the Annunaki. I believe, as you seem to, that there was a major race that once existed, and that we are living in a state of mutual amnesia. I have translated bone carvings from Siberia, dated by Archaeolgists to 22,000 BC that give gardening tips on it. I have translated clay tokens from South Africa, dated 66,000 years ago by three different teams of Archaeolgists, that consists of a love poem. I have a map of the polar north dated at 3000 BC, and a map of what the Sumerians and Hebrews knew as Eden, dated 7000 BC. The markings on Gobekli Tepe that are dated at 9000 BC are written in Sumerian. So yes, there is a bit of history that we are missing. I'm working on a book called Historical Amnesia that contains these ideas. Good luck to you in your journey of discovery.

They (false Gods) are re-surfacing, only now they are claiming to be Aliens, beware though, they are not, it is again deception, a deception to sow false redemption on us, redemption for the chaos they have by design created. With the use of Pre-Flood (Old World) tech, have been using this for Millennia. The classic disc vehicles are one of the technological left overs they have still in their possession. When the Old ones (Post-Flood) saw them enter a lake or a volcano, they'd be talking about how the Gods would enter the Earth, it is assumable they still have control over certain Sub-Terran dwellings (cities) of which destroyed and crude likes have been found the past couple centuries. They'd have knowledge of creating meatsuit "drones" called Greys by many. The old ones (Hebrews) called these creatures the Thamiel, Double headed demons, not to be mistaken for a creature with two heads, but actually elongated ones, they would also be know as creatures revolt and anarchy. They'd be Psychopathic in nature, lusting after material goods like for instance gold and have a dislike for us, as far as I have been able to figure it out, they are not alone in this, like we were not alone before and will not be after.

There are People being positioned to talk about them as benevolent creatures of peace and harmony living under ground and on other parts of Sol, they have been looking after us and have the best intentions for the Human race, lies! I think that many People remember some of the Corey Goode crap om where similar positioning was entertained. Be aware for they are the Children of the Father of all Lies (more less, lol).

In any case, I'd be very curious about your book.

I'll keep you all posted - I have the parts that I mentioned done, I just need one or two more and then put it all together. On the 66,000 year old one, the template that I came up with to translate it, also translates all the others that I mentioned, so it has been in use for that length of time. If you read it in one direction it gives the first half of the poem, and when you put it upside down it provides the other - using the same symbols but when reversed they change into new ones - which would be impossible for me to duplicate, and perhaps could not be done today at all, except with a Cray computer. It's so refreshing to hear from someone who has an interesting idea - like yours, and does not begin to speak of alternative dimensions and time travel and all of those ideas, which are, in my opinion, inspired by our intelligence agencies. I don't, however, fault those that subscribe to those theories - just not what my research has taught me.

Apparently they have also been wiping out resources of knowledge since mankind began - when it did not suit them, so apparently they are very much active today as well.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I've never seen an explanation of how, if Sitchin fabricated so much of his theories about the Annunaki, he managed to get so much right about the ancient gold mines in Africa and the settlements near them where the miners must have lived, which Michael Tellinger discovered after Sitchin had identified their location and purpose.

Actually that information was known in the late 1800s. Along with the mines and the smelting locations where steel was made more than a thousand years ago, and well before it was supposedly "invented". It's in books with limited circulation, but certainly available to a library cruiser like Sitchin. The NSA connection might have been helpful as well.

Funny you should bring up time travel, not a fan myself. I'll explain why, People who read this and go no way, fair enough, this is just my strong opinion.

Time travel, to go forward or backwards in time, the latter is mostly used to either warn about the past or change it. Now please do not forget that when the stories first started appearing as they did, we were still living in the 1800's (late around 1881). The concept of the Universe and all that was mainly still in the hands of the Christian raised scholars (in the West). Therefore the entirety of the Universe was bypassed. Think about that for a while and try to grasp how huge the entire Universe is, in it's whole. Now imagine a disgruntled man from a small species building a machine that can basically reset the entire Galaxies faith!, back to whatever time frame! They/he would like and change everything. Butterfly effect dictates that this would without doubt effect the entire Material Realm or Universe, the power it would take, the power to hold the faith of all living beings and inanimate objects in ones hand and play with it like they were puppets on strings, to do that one has to rewind the entire material Universe to the desired point of arrival, it's not logical, traveling back in time is fiction nothing more. Now, traveling forward, well my dear Sir, that can be done! Let me explain how.

If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech, the following could be done. One could create a home frequency (including the ship, you and a bubble around the ship, a tight one) to slow down "time". As the bubble stays withing the normal time movement, see it like a bubble of air in water or so, not literal though, normal time will move on while the frequency your in, slows time down. When you release the bubble to rejoin the current flow time is in, well there you have it, one jumped forward, basically using the same tech one would use in Space jumps. In space jumps one uses 3 points iso 2 (see picture). One can stay in the current time frame, bubble 1 (home frequency) ensures you stay within your own "timezone".

https://i.postimg.cc/QdJQhDML/3-pm-freq-adjuster-g.jpg

Concerning alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence, for instance in Hindu Religion they use old knowledge to explain the Universal Administrators, semi-material realm, a frequency. Perhaps not even that, maybe they just meant that these "Administrators" are just using material for their purpose, not their needs (Materialism is functional only).

Now the latter I find intriguing is that poem that one can read in multiple directions. Such thing exists in our Latin based script as well, one sentence having multiple words l-r r-l and contain single words becoming a whole, but all of them point towards the same thing, not entirely as you describe it, but it is still similar if you ask me, same goes for our numbers (369), applicable in many different things, therefore I would really like to know more about this.

Concerning those Anunaki/Annunaki, I've read a couple of chapters concerning some scribe taken up to some ship to write down some delivery on how things came to pass, not sure who actually came up with that, it's a massive bunch of chapters as I remember, that story leaks on all sides and can be considered a fabrication. I'd have to re-read it, or listen to the narration of it to come up with the details, but it leaks and is clearly written in a mindset with knowledge of when it was fabricated. Can't believe People pass that off as fact.

What does



If you are in a ship, let's say a ship with frequency tech

What is, "Frequency tech"



alternative realities, they're simply frequential bands of existence

You mean off band frequencies? For those to exist, there must be one main 'band' that causes the second or external ones to exist, as replicates

Those are not simple, there is a need to keep them in sync with the original, but to also allow for the deviations, as they happen, while not losing sync with the things that are not happening different. There's nothing 'simple' about that :)

Frequency tech is actually vibration technology, old World tech which is basically outlawed in Europe and US when it comes to medical appliances. They will however use this in a crude version for weaponized use.

Everything in the Universe vibrates due to a certain frequency, when one learns how to harvest this, the applications are endless (to the mind). From medical, cure cancer, cancer has a certain frequency and can be offed by a counter frequency, it'll basically explode in a non lethal way, appliances to Space jumps. From clean water to harvesting energy to provide for a complete society and or large Planetary regions (Pyramids), water can be used to facilitate the means of which it can travel, hence water is life.

By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies, like a stealth suit for instance. Now imagine if you have knowledge of this and use this to fool an entire Species, you wouldn't want those People to figure out how this works right>? One of the things making sure that doesn't happen is to ensure you control how they develop.

It's fascinating matter, you should look into it.


Posted this on the previos comment, would like to post it again, "for exposure", please 'bear with me' :P




before you think a bit more about this, think about it... All the information, happening right now, as i type this, and as you will read and as it happens, in all replicates and all universes, is recorded non-stop. Where is this information recorded, and where is it reconciled in a way that it makes sense? Who looks into that?

Simple is a word that has no meaning, and neither those the concepts created around trying to explain reality under normal human terms




By figuring out the right frequencies one could in reality step out of this one and still look into this at the one the left from another band of frequencies

No not quite, but i think you are looking at the right side of these things.. You can't escape it that way, it's impossible, you have to drop your body for that, just like you can't drive a normal car to 1000 km/h just because you press harder on the pedal

What makes you think i did not "look into it" before :P

Maybe i did...

Actually one can, no need to drop the body.

By creating a bubble around you the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not, Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment, think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

See as a crazy scientist, i can decompose this into small parts that don't make any sense, so i just want to show you why, here

By creating a bubble around you
A bubble of what?


the mechanics will recognize you as something which you are basically not
What is the before and what is the after? In specific terms?
What is the mechanism and how do you know about it and how it works?
Are you above it, so you can see it working from afar, without being affected by it?



Micro/Macro, size does not matter in this moment

Because...



think as it of an animal posing as something it is not to avoid capture, best way of explaining this I guess.

Yes, but since you did not really explained all the previous things this could mean anything, like playing a game online or real hunting on the wilderness and stuff like that

I'm just looking for answers, just as you, is just that i question hard, please don't hate me for it <3

A bubble of what? Simple, if you need to travel from a-b and I need to travel a really long distance, I'll use that vibration tech, basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement, it is very much like a warp concept I guess, the only difference is is that I pretend to be something in the Universe which I am not (animal reference), for instance a particle. In this manner size does not matter, because the mechanics do not look at size, but at the workings, if it obeys the law of the mechanics it is supposed to be dwelling in, then it must be treated as such. In the case of a craft you're in it, one needs to create that 1st bubble, around it the second one to fool. The entire Universe is a freguential grid, as you might already know, this is how navigation is made easy.

In the case of the suit, like a cloaking suit, you just need to create a bubble around the suit for it to work, you fool someone's eyes and the mechanics of the reality, it's really not that complicated, you just need to see it in your mind.

Your comment about all the stored info (Universal), I guess that's a question for the non-linear, not my dept, lol. And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.



basically I create a frequency around my Sphere to ensure movement

You did not read anything i said....



And yes, I do hate you a little bit now, hahahahhahaha.

It's ok, i don't mind, as long as it makes you question more, as i do every day :)

But let me point this out

"Frequencies" are not 'objects', so you can't create/destroy them

So, think about this, how are you "creating frequencies around you" when a frequency is not, and can't be an object?

I'm not a monster, i just question beyond, it makes people angry a lot of the time

I did.


Every frequency has an appliance one can harvest. For instance the harvesting of the frequency of an earthquake might give you a tool to ensure destruction of an entire walled city for instance. It's actually quite endless and completely Natural, especially the last part is important, not because of the environment, lol, but simply because we are literary surrounded by it.

Dwell on it for a while, it'll pop in place once you see it.

Remember this from school days?



The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed

Is, one again, not the "frequency" but "what" is so frequently sent out there, or in there

So, we cycled back to what i asked

"Frequencies of what"?

You are considering frequencies themselves as a form of energy. Instead of some kind of energy being released at some specific frequency...


"Frequencies of what"?

Frequencies create vibrations, it's the vibration you harvest. Nothing to do with any sort of law of thermodynamics.

A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.

[Mashika]

Frequencies create vibrations, it's the vibration you harvest. Nothing to do with any sort of law of thermodynamics.

A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.



Frequencies can't create anything or derive anything tangible, because frequencies are not an entity, frequencies are an interval in time, for something that happens every few cycles on "THAT" interval...

Frequencies are not objects... You can't harvest a concept, we are not concept vampires....

Please hear me out

Back when the US was introduced into Buddhism, they were told "all life vibrates at certain frequencies"

Most people did not get it at all, all this talk about vibrations and frequencies were ridiculous

So, the people who introduced it though about and said, let's explain it in a way they can understand according to their original culture and beliefs...

So they ended up with the concept of frequencies as a measure to say high is better and low is worse. According to the bible in which high is heaven and low is hell...

From there, it took yet another turn, now frequencies were wishes and good will. "I send you good vibes" meaning I hope high frequencies for you

Then reiki was introduced to western culture (reiki is 'ki' or 'chi' and so on) and then it was a completely separate mystical aspect of it all

A plastic bag is a plastic bag, frequencies have no regard for it

If you understand that picking up eastern culture concepts demand you turn away western ones, instead of meeting them in the middle, then you will know what I mean

If you insist on picking up eastern culture and do bastardization of it? Then You are never going to figure anything out

That's all I have to say I think

P.S. probably should remove previous comments on replies... it's impossible to navigate pages of quotes at this level

ETA:

I'm going to be very rude and be a monster right now and going to tell you this

You don't understand, that you don't understand


A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.


"Frequencies, are not objects, yet you can "create frequencies around you", in your point of view of this reality...

You are picking up concepts you don't understand, from a culture you don't understand. Eastern culture works in a very different way.. Imagine if someone like me would try to explain to you the concepts of ideologies you were grown up with. Would you feel that's cool and change your views or accept, or think i'm ridiculous?

I don't think you are listening to anything i said before, and i'm truly sad about that, because i really tried

Once again...


Vibration tech based on frequencies

Frequencies of what?
Gummy bears? Replies on Avalon per second?

Hateful thought about me? :heart::bearhug:

Bearhugs?:bearhug::bearhug:

Frequencies of tech based on some unknown measure of something people call "frequencies" that can be created and destroyed

Do you realize that when you said "i create frequency around me" and that now you said

"A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears"

Those two things are completely incompatible in concept and realization? It's impossible to be the creator of yourself....

I bet you are fed up with me right now :P

I wanted to tell you about things i know, you only care to tell me about how i can't know better than you because you can't accept i may know things

So i'm going to leave

I just wish you had listened, but you replied to things i posted to 'see' and you basically said 'i don't care', and it was sad

Good by now :(

:flower:

[9ideon]

Frequencies create vibrations, it's the vibration you harvest. Nothing to do with any sort of law of thermodynamics.

A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.



Frequencies can't create anything or derive anything tangible, because frequencies are not an entity, frequencies are an interval in time, for something that happens every few cycles on "THAT" interval...

Frequencies are not objects... You can't harvest a concept, we are not concept vampires....

Please hear me out

Back when the US was introduced into Buddhism, they were told "all life vibrates at certain frequencies"

Most people did not get it at all, all this talk about vibrations and frequencies were ridiculous

So, the people who introduced it though about and said, let's explain it in a way they can understand according to their original culture and beliefs...

So they ended up with the concept of frequencies as a measure to say high is better and low is worse. According to the bible in which high is heaven and low is hell...

From there, it took yet another turn, now frequencies were wishes and good will. "I send you good vibes" meaning I hope high frequencies for you

Then reiki was introduced to western culture (reiki is 'ki' or 'chi' and so on) and then it was a completely separate mystical aspect of it all

A plastic bag is a plastic bag, frequencies have no regard for it

If you understand that picking up eastern culture concepts demand you turn away western ones, instead of meeting them in the middle, then you will know what I mean

If you insist on picking up eastern culture and do bastardization of it? Then You are never going to figure anything out

That's all I have to say I think

P.S. probably should remove previous comments on replies... it's impossible to navigate pages of quotes at this level

ETA:

I'm going to be very rude and be a monster right now and going to tell you this

You don't understand, that you don't understand


A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.


"Frequencies, are not objects, yet you can "create frequencies around you", in your point of view of this reality...

You are picking up concepts you don't understand, from a culture you don't understand. Eastern culture works in a very different way.. Imagine if someone like me would try to explain to you the concepts of ideologies you were grown up with. Would you feel that's cool and change your views or accept, or think i'm ridiculous?

I don't think you are listening to anything i said before, and i'm truly sad about that, because i really tried

Once again...


Vibration tech based on frequencies

Frequencies of what?
Gummy bears? Replies on Avalon per second?

Hateful thought about me? :heart::bearhug:

Bearhugs?:bearhug::bearhug:

Frequencies of tech based on some unknown measure of something people call "frequencies" that can be created and destroyed

Do you realize that when you said "i create frequency around me" and that now you said

"A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears"

Those two things are completely incompatible in concept and realization? It's impossible to be the creator of yourself....

I bet you are fed up with me right now :P

I wanted to tell you about things i know, you only care to tell me about how i can't know better than you because you can't accept i may know things

So i'm going to leave

I just wish you had listened, but you replied to things i posted to 'see' and you basically said 'i don't care', and it was sad

Good by now :(

:flower:

You keep going on about things completely unrelated to the concept. Not being able to harvest this and that, of course we can, we do it all the time, the entire concept of nature is based on this principle.

You obviously do not wish to get it, or you're trolling the subject, in any case I'll leave it at that.

[Mashika]

Frequencies create vibrations, it's the vibration you harvest. Nothing to do with any sort of law of thermodynamics.

A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.



Frequencies can't create anything or derive anything tangible, because frequencies are not an entity, frequencies are an interval in time, for something that happens every few cycles on "THAT" interval...

Frequencies are not objects... You can't harvest a concept, we are not concept vampires....

Please hear me out

Back when the US was introduced into Buddhism, they were told "all life vibrates at certain frequencies"

Most people did not get it at all, all this talk about vibrations and frequencies were ridiculous

So, the people who introduced it though about and said, let's explain it in a way they can understand according to their original culture and beliefs...

So they ended up with the concept of frequencies as a measure to say high is better and low is worse. According to the bible in which high is heaven and low is hell...

From there, it took yet another turn, now frequencies were wishes and good will. "I send you good vibes" meaning I hope high frequencies for you

Then reiki was introduced to western culture (reiki is 'ki' or 'chi' and so on) and then it was a completely separate mystical aspect of it all

A plastic bag is a plastic bag, frequencies have no regard for it

If you understand that picking up eastern culture concepts demand you turn away western ones, instead of meeting them in the middle, then you will know what I mean

If you insist on picking up eastern culture and do bastardization of it? Then You are never going to figure anything out

That's all I have to say I think

P.S. probably should remove previous comments on replies... it's impossible to navigate pages of quotes at this level

ETA:

I'm going to be very rude and be a monster right now and going to tell you this

You don't understand, that you don't understand


A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.


"Frequencies, are not objects, yet you can "create frequencies around you", in your point of view of this reality...

You are picking up concepts you don't understand, from a culture you don't understand. Eastern culture works in a very different way.. Imagine if someone like me would try to explain to you the concepts of ideologies you were grown up with. Would you feel that's cool and change your views or accept, or think i'm ridiculous?

I don't think you are listening to anything i said before, and i'm truly sad about that, because i really tried

Once again...


Vibration tech based on frequencies

Frequencies of what?
Gummy bears? Replies on Avalon per second?

Hateful thought about me? :heart::bearhug:

Bearhugs?:bearhug::bearhug:

Frequencies of tech based on some unknown measure of something people call "frequencies" that can be created and destroyed

Do you realize that when you said "i create frequency around me" and that now you said

"A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears"

Those two things are completely incompatible in concept and realization? It's impossible to be the creator of yourself....

I bet you are fed up with me right now :P

I wanted to tell you about things i know, you only care to tell me about how i can't know better than you because you can't accept i may know things

So i'm going to leave

I just wish you had listened, but you replied to things i posted to 'see' and you basically said 'i don't care', and it was sad

Good by now :(

:flower:

You keep going on about things completely unrelated to the concept. Not being able to harvest this and that, of course we can, we do it all the time, the entire concept of nature is based on this principle.

You obviously do not wish to get it, or you're trolling the subject, in any case I'll leave it at that.

LMFAO! yes let's leave it at that, it's for everyone ever to see, i asked a simple question and you were unable to answer, because there's no answer, even if the question is obvious and clear, and plain

And people say i'm a "kid" lol, well lately most people just avoid talking to me, but when they do...

So because of that, i'm "a troll"

Let's go with that, for your mental health :P

Two things for sure right now:

You are no Scientist, and you are not "Mad", you are compliant, and you just showed the world how and why :)

:bearhug:

[Jim_Duyer]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

[Mashika]

Frequencies create vibrations, it's the vibration you harvest. Nothing to do with any sort of law of thermodynamics.

A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.



Frequencies can't create anything or derive anything tangible, because frequencies are not an entity, frequencies are an interval in time, for something that happens every few cycles on "THAT" interval...

Frequencies are not objects... You can't harvest a concept, we are not concept vampires....

Please hear me out

Back when the US was introduced into Buddhism, they were told "all life vibrates at certain frequencies"

Most people did not get it at all, all this talk about vibrations and frequencies were ridiculous

So, the people who introduced it though about and said, let's explain it in a way they can understand according to their original culture and beliefs...

So they ended up with the concept of frequencies as a measure to say high is better and low is worse. According to the bible in which high is heaven and low is hell...

From there, it took yet another turn, now frequencies were wishes and good will. "I send you good vibes" meaning I hope high frequencies for you

Then reiki was introduced to western culture (reiki is 'ki' or 'chi' and so on) and then it was a completely separate mystical aspect of it all

A plastic bag is a plastic bag, frequencies have no regard for it

If you understand that picking up eastern culture concepts demand you turn away western ones, instead of meeting them in the middle, then you will know what I mean

If you insist on picking up eastern culture and do bastardization of it? Then You are never going to figure anything out

That's all I have to say I think

P.S. probably should remove previous comments on replies... it's impossible to navigate pages of quotes at this level

ETA:

I'm going to be very rude and be a monster right now and going to tell you this

You don't understand, that you don't understand


A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.


"Frequencies, are not objects, yet you can "create frequencies around you", in your point of view of this reality...

You are picking up concepts you don't understand, from a culture you don't understand. Eastern culture works in a very different way.. Imagine if someone like me would try to explain to you the concepts of ideologies you were grown up with. Would you feel that's cool and change your views or accept, or think i'm ridiculous?

I don't think you are listening to anything i said before, and i'm truly sad about that, because i really tried

Once again...


Vibration tech based on frequencies

Frequencies of what?
Gummy bears? Replies on Avalon per second?

Hateful thought about me? :heart::bearhug:

Bearhugs?:bearhug::bearhug:

Frequencies of tech based on some unknown measure of something people call "frequencies" that can be created and destroyed

Do you realize that when you said "i create frequency around me" and that now you said

"A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears"

Those two things are completely incompatible in concept and realization? It's impossible to be the creator of yourself....

I bet you are fed up with me right now :P

I wanted to tell you about things i know, you only care to tell me about how i can't know better than you because you can't accept i may know things

So i'm going to leave

I just wish you had listened, but you replied to things i posted to 'see' and you basically said 'i don't care', and it was sad

Good by now :(

:flower:

You keep going on about things completely unrelated to the concept. Not being able to harvest this and that, of course we can, we do it all the time, the entire concept of nature is based on this principle.

You obviously do not wish to get it, or you're trolling the subject, in any case I'll leave it at that.

LMFAO! yes let's leave it at that, it's for everyone ever to see, i asked a simple question and you were unable to answer, because there's no answer, even if the question is obvious and clear, and plain

And people say i'm a "kid" lol, well lately most people just avoid talking to me, but when they do...

So because of that, i'm "a troll"

Let's go with that, for your mental health :P

Two things for sure right now:

You are no Scientist, and you are not "Mad", you are compliant, and you just showed the world how and why :)

:bearhug:

Do you really think anyone who shows a view of the world that you can't handle is a "troll"? Are you conditioned so much to find the world to be black or white, like that?

[Mashika]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

Wasn't Tesla that by mistake ignited or whatever word means to "reactive" the cauldrons in Siberia, then causes the Tunguska event?

Then he basically said "ups" lol

Didn't he started the reason why humans realized there were nuclear weapons in the first place, and started learning about them?

[9ideon]

Frequencies create vibrations, it's the vibration you harvest. Nothing to do with any sort of law of thermodynamics.

A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.



Frequencies can't create anything or derive anything tangible, because frequencies are not an entity, frequencies are an interval in time, for something that happens every few cycles on "THAT" interval...

Frequencies are not objects... You can't harvest a concept, we are not concept vampires....

Please hear me out

Back when the US was introduced into Buddhism, they were told "all life vibrates at certain frequencies"

Most people did not get it at all, all this talk about vibrations and frequencies were ridiculous

So, the people who introduced it though about and said, let's explain it in a way they can understand according to their original culture and beliefs...

So they ended up with the concept of frequencies as a measure to say high is better and low is worse. According to the bible in which high is heaven and low is hell...

From there, it took yet another turn, now frequencies were wishes and good will. "I send you good vibes" meaning I hope high frequencies for you

Then reiki was introduced to western culture (reiki is 'ki' or 'chi' and so on) and then it was a completely separate mystical aspect of it all

A plastic bag is a plastic bag, frequencies have no regard for it

If you understand that picking up eastern culture concepts demand you turn away western ones, instead of meeting them in the middle, then you will know what I mean

If you insist on picking up eastern culture and do bastardization of it? Then You are never going to figure anything out

That's all I have to say I think

P.S. probably should remove previous comments on replies... it's impossible to navigate pages of quotes at this level

ETA:

I'm going to be very rude and be a monster right now and going to tell you this

You don't understand, that you don't understand


A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears. The entire concept is an endless appliance.
I was pretty clear about this at the start, Vibration tech based on frequencies. AM not even going to answer that last post of yours, it says more about you than me I guess.


"Frequencies, are not objects, yet you can "create frequencies around you", in your point of view of this reality...

You are picking up concepts you don't understand, from a culture you don't understand. Eastern culture works in a very different way.. Imagine if someone like me would try to explain to you the concepts of ideologies you were grown up with. Would you feel that's cool and change your views or accept, or think i'm ridiculous?

I don't think you are listening to anything i said before, and i'm truly sad about that, because i really tried

Once again...


Vibration tech based on frequencies

Frequencies of what?
Gummy bears? Replies on Avalon per second?

Hateful thought about me? :heart::bearhug:

Bearhugs?:bearhug::bearhug:

Frequencies of tech based on some unknown measure of something people call "frequencies" that can be created and destroyed

Do you realize that when you said "i create frequency around me" and that now you said

"A Plastic bag vibrates at a certain frequency, the gummi bears inside the plastic bag vibrate at a certain frequency, one has therefore a bag of gummi bears"

Those two things are completely incompatible in concept and realization? It's impossible to be the creator of yourself....

I bet you are fed up with me right now :P

I wanted to tell you about things i know, you only care to tell me about how i can't know better than you because you can't accept i may know things

So i'm going to leave

I just wish you had listened, but you replied to things i posted to 'see' and you basically said 'i don't care', and it was sad

Good by now :(

:flower:

You keep going on about things completely unrelated to the concept. Not being able to harvest this and that, of course we can, we do it all the time, the entire concept of nature is based on this principle.

You obviously do not wish to get it, or you're trolling the subject, in any case I'll leave it at that.

LMFAO! yes let's leave it at that, it's for everyone ever to see, i asked a simple question and you were unable to answer, because there's no answer, even if the question is obvious and clear, and plain

And people say i'm a "kid" lol, well lately most people just avoid talking to me, but when they do...

So because of that, i'm "a troll"

Let's go with that, for your mental health :P

Two things for sure right now:

You are no Scientist, and you are not "Mad", you are compliant, and you just showed the world how and why :)

:bearhug:

Do you really think anyone who shows a view of the world that you can't handle is a "troll"? Are you conditioned so much to find the world to be black or white, like that?

I've explained it a good while, even posted a video in where you can see it with your own eyes, still you manage to go back to the same questions asked in a different way, for someone implying to be very smart you seem really shortsighted, so yes, after a while the same questions asked in a different way, or directing to the same outcome can be seen as a nuisance or trolling.

[Jim_Duyer]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

Wasn't Tesla that by mistake ignited or whatever word means to "reactive" the cauldrons in Siberia, then causes the Tunguska event?

Then he basically said "ups" lol

Didn't he started the reason why humans realized there were nuclear weapons in the first place, and started learning about them?

You would really need to produce those quotations for me, if you wish me to believe them.
I have researched him quite a bit and am not familiar with what you claim. In fact I wrote
a book on Tesla's history. It would not surprise me that he made a mistake or three from time to
time, since most genius comes along with an extra heavy order of ego on the side, at no charge,
but I don't recognize them.

To be fair, most of the nuclear work was first done at nearly the end of his life span. But in subjects
that those of his time barely understood, he was the leader and forerunner of many of them.

[9ideon]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

Both of them (out of Africa theory guy and Einstein) were working on a different theory before they expired. I even believe the out of Africa guy retracted his theory but was then ignored, lol.

The reason Tesla was shunned, his work stolen even patented by others after he died (corps) is simply about money again. Edison was a thief and played the game, he made others very rich in the end. Tesla would have kept them all poor and would have implemented free stuff all over the place. The fallout games are basically an alternative "reality" in which Tesla had won that race, part of it anyway.

When I started researching that frequency thing I obviously ran into the Tesla knowledge a little bit, I was really happy to see something he did and actually replicated, the great pyramid. The Tesla tower is a version of that great pyramid, the water channels below the Tesla tower are a replica of the channels below the great pyramid, in most of them the sound chambers are still intact btw, it's really something.

Did you know that the acoustics of our sun (vibrations) have changed a while back>? This resulted in the heating up of all the Planets in our Sol (they do not put that in mainstream, lol) you know how this is possible? Crystal in the cores, it interacts with the vibration of our Sun, it heats up the core (or could cool it down too), this is why most of the so called climate change comes from within the Planet. Do you also know that Humans have a similar system inside their own body (Micro/Macro). As I mentioned before, the applications are endless. If Tesla would have had the chance we'd be much better off now.

[Mashika]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

Wasn't Tesla that by mistake ignited or whatever word means to "reactive" the cauldrons in Siberia, then causes the Tunguska event?


Then he basically said "ups" lol

Didn't he started the reason why humans realized there were nuclear weapons in the first place, and started learning about them?

You would really need to produce those quotations for me, if you wish me to believe them.
I have researched him quite a bit and am not familiar with what you claim. In fact I wrote
a book on Tesla's history. It would not surprise me that he made a mistake or three from time to
time, since most genius comes along with an extra heavy order of ego on the side, at no charge,
but I don't recognize them.

To be fair, most of the nuclear work was first done at nearly the end of his life span. But in subjects
that those of his time barely understood, he was the leader and forerunner of many of them.

Can't remember that's why I asked, maybe I'm wrong but I will have to figure out. In either case I'll let you know. I remember strongly about that, probably I was mislead.. oh well

[Jim_Duyer]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

Both of them (out of Africa theory guy and Einstein) were working on a different theory before they expired. I even believe the out of Africa guy retracted his theory but was then ignored, lol.

The reason Tesla was shunned, his work stolen even patented by others after he died (corps) is simply about money again. Edison was a thief and played the game, he made others very rich in the end. Tesla would have kept them all poor and would have implemented free stuff all over the place. The fallout games are basically an alternative "reality" in which Tesla had won that race, part of it anyway.

When I started researching that frequency thing I obviously ran into the Tesla knowledge a little bit, I was really happy to see something he did and actually replicated, the great pyramid. The Tesla tower is a version of that great pyramid, the water channels below the Tesla tower are a replica of the channels below the great pyramid, in most of them the sound chambers are still intact btw, it's really something.

Did you know that the acoustics of our sun (vibrations) have changed a while back>? This resulted in the heating up of all the Planets in our Sol (they do not put that in mainstream, lol) you know how this is possible? Crystal in the cores, it interacts with the vibration of our Sun, it heats up the core (or could cool it down too), this is why most of the so called climate change comes from within the Planet. Do you also know that Humans have a similar system inside their own body (Micro/Macro). As I mentioned before, the applications are endless. If Tesla would have had the chance we'd be much better off now.

Tesla's main benefactor was JJ Astor. He lived rent free in his hotels. His main enemy was JP Morgan, who backed the poser Edison. Morgan owned the Titanic and gave Astor free tickets on it. Problem solved.
Did not know that about the Sun, but I do know that the traditional excuse is very lame.

[9ideon]

I'd have to locate it on one of my desktop hard drives, but I have a quotation by Nikola Tesla to the effect that he stated that he had exceeded the speed of light during several of his broadcasts, by a factor of about 135%. I follow Tesla over Einstein. In fact Tesla tells us Einstein was a fraud and a buffoon. So using Einsteinian pseudo-physics will not help me in my research. I respect your opinions, but do not subscribe to the physics proposed by Einstein and those who could not prove his theories as being factual and thus invented Quantum Physic to explain them, when what they really should have done was to use their brains to come up with alternatives.
The speed of light is like Out of Africa or Man arose from Apes - inaccurate, incomplete, and designed to confuse and confound. His works are a giant whole that swallows you up and spins your time away.

Both of them (out of Africa theory guy and Einstein) were working on a different theory before they expired. I even believe the out of Africa guy retracted his theory but was then ignored, lol.

The reason Tesla was shunned, his work stolen even patented by others after he died (corps) is simply about money again. Edison was a thief and played the game, he made others very rich in the end. Tesla would have kept them all poor and would have implemented free stuff all over the place. The fallout games are basically an alternative "reality" in which Tesla had won that race, part of it anyway.

When I started researching that frequency thing I obviously ran into the Tesla knowledge a little bit, I was really happy to see something he did and actually replicated, the great pyramid. The Tesla tower is a version of that great pyramid, the water channels below the Tesla tower are a replica of the channels below the great pyramid, in most of them the sound chambers are still intact btw, it's really something.

Did you know that the acoustics of our sun (vibrations) have changed a while back>? This resulted in the heating up of all the Planets in our Sol (they do not put that in mainstream, lol) you know how this is possible? Crystal in the cores, it interacts with the vibration of our Sun, it heats up the core (or could cool it down too), this is why most of the so called climate change comes from within the Planet. Do you also know that Humans have a similar system inside their own body (Micro/Macro). As I mentioned before, the applications are endless. If Tesla would have had the chance we'd be much better off now.

Tesla's main benefactor was JJ Astor. He lived rent free in his hotels. His main enemy was JP Morgan, who backed the poser Edison. Morgan owned the Titanic and gave Astor free tickets on it. Problem solved.
Did not know that about the Sun, but I do know that the traditional excuse is very lame.

I did some research on why certain animals kept washing up on the West Coast of mainly the US. I detected a food chain problem, when I started digging it seemed that the region was experiencing a lot of volcanic activity and earthquakes (ring of fire) up to a large increase on a yearly bases. It is really not a coincidence that suddenly they have started to detect active volcanos under the Antarctic Ice plates too.

I'll post a small scribble I made below here, you'll get through that in under 5 mins I guess. Don't be put off by the title, I found that funny at the time.

https://madsciencecave.wixsite.com/website/new-ice-age-new-hoax

It's all part of a cycle we're going through, like I mentioned in the scribble, we're still in the last Ice Age, however, we should be nearing the end of it.

Yes, I think I recall something on that Titanic story, but one must agree that the sinking was a coincidence. These People though!

[Bill Ryan]

A new mini-documentary, published yesterday.

Just 35 minutes long, and I've not watched this yet. But I'm told yours truly features in it 5 times. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99IGemRTV0

[jaybee]

A new mini-documentary, published yesterday.

Just 35 minutes long, and I've not watched this yet. But I'm told yours truly features in it 5 times. :)

{video snipped - see #229 above}


Thanks...

I just wanted to make a (speculative) comment on what you said in the first clip of you @ 2:25... in essence about why would the Annunaki mess about with lengthy projects creating a hybrid being rather then use machinery and robots...

I wonder if that is because the use of heavy metals were known to be a bad path to go down - and possibly the road to ruin (like the road to ruin we appear to be on with heavy metals, their alloys and technology)...

There may have been an under standing that no good could come of this line of invention in the long run.. even maybe a taboo on mining heavy metals (except gold and silver?)... because of the potential toxicity and harm that can be done with them..


https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/heavy-metal


Technically, heavy metals are defined as any metal having a specific gravity greater than 5.0. However, not all heavy metals are toxic. Gold and silver are both classified as heavy metals but are by no means toxic. Some of the most common toxic metals are lead, mercury, cadmium, arsenic and chromium. Other heavier metals that have noted levels of toxicity are zinc, iron and copper.


I know not everyone thinks that Boyd Bushman's Deathbed Documentary (2014) contained valuable info and that he could have been duped... I personally think he was genuine with genuine info - and (from memory).... there was that bit where he discussed the make up of the material used in the craft that he was experimenting on (the material) - he mentioned 3 elements that I can't remember the names of now - but he made a point of saying something like... 'notice I did not mention any metals...'

I'm thinking that heavy metals or heavy metal alloys couldn't / can't be used for space travel and couldn't/can't be transported to mine gold on earth - and wouldn't be mined and used when they arrived on earth... because they were known to be toxic and dangerous and upset a natural balance of some kind.... for example all the serious imbalances and serious abuses of power on earth could probably be put down to the mining and (mis) use of heavy metals... the most obvious area being weapons - - - but also all the ways technology using metals has been used to kind of cheat nature - - - and stray from the essence of Earth Life..

So perhaps the creation of a hybrid being to get the gold out of the ground for them was the most accepted and risk free method that they had... while staying within the natural order of life on earth.... because using metals was known to cause a dangerous imbalance physically and spiritually...

Just a little ponder on the matter.... :)

[Denise/Dizi]

Fascinating thread!

Boyd bushman and the metal question... I would think that those mining and creating the very "More natural" architecture and buildings around this planet, knew that metals had some serious limitations... Chances are they had already discovered nano tech, Carbon fiber materials, nano tubes, biological means to fuse meal to body parts, "Oscio integration" and many other things given they were supposedly master geneticists. One cannot master genetics without having mastered many things prior, that we are now just mastering...I am fairly certain that all of those things came into play when creating their craft as well... But that is just a guess on my part..

I am going out on a limb here and suggesting that the Annumaki had left tech all over the planet, and rather than create much of the tech that we are using now, the very brightest scientists in the world such as Einstein and Tesla, were imparted knowledge , by being given such tech to figure out how it worked, and possibly reproduce it. After some groups found it and stashed away what they could of it, and destroying the rest...

I say this as his "Power tower" resembled many of the spires and antennae on top of old buildings ll over the world, which implies they were gathering power from the ether. in some way. (Sorry if this is not the proper terminology...)

Many buildings had ornaments on them, that I am convinced served other purposes than decoration alone, and on some buildings, I have seen people break open such decoration, to find inside, what appears to be some form of technology inside.

The ball spinning on rails with vibrations, reminds me of all of the metal balls found all over South America... Seems to me if they could make them spin, could dig deep trenches into the rocky ground somehow... (Also possibly with vibrations) they could add rails and use said balls to move very large and heavy rocks, and or stones for pyramids. Perhaps those waterways near some of those pyramids, are remnants of guides or "Pathways" for the material?

I claim now openly, that I am speculating as it all fascinates me, mud floods, high tech ancient technology, and those that wielded it. WHERE ARE THEY NOW? After mining our planet, did they "Go home"? And if so, where truly is "Home"?

After reading "The Power of the Coming Race", One cannot help but notice the descriptions of said beings, and how they resemble the Sumarians and Annunaki descriptions... Down to the apparent wing contraptions they used to fly around... Did some go underground to avoid a horrible flood? How close are they really?

I believe that the photo that Bill posted was a reproduction, for that person that doubted it was " real " image, he stated it was what it looked like, so a rendering. That rendering sure looks a lot like Egyption art...

It is so fascinating to me... I hope more add to this thread... The vibrations and frequencies to cut rocks was AMAZING... And I do believe that it was in the past, used as a weapon... When they wrote that they leveled castle walls with horns... Sounds like a sound weapon to me...

If anyone finds really good videos about such things, please do share them here, my time has gotten more limited to seek such things out, and I would surely enjoy them immensely!

:HELP!::HELP!: lol

[jaybee]

Fascinating thread!
I am going out on a limb here and suggesting that the Annumaki had left tech all over the planet, and rather than create much of the tech that we are using now, the very brightest scientists in the world such as Einstein and Tesla, were imparted knowledge , by being given such tech to figure out how it worked, and possibly reproduce it. After some groups found it and stashed away what they could of it, and destroying the rest...



Thanks Denise.. just pulled this from your post because last night I happen to listen to an old Art Bell radio programme - an interview with Andrew Basiago about Time Travel and his claims to be involved in Project Pegasus - now even if Basiago is the best story teller ever and made it all up or was used to get the info out I am sure there is a long history of experiments with time travel - not least because time travel would have to be involved in space travel or it couldn't work... distances being what they are... and the Annunaki (and others) would have to have knowledge of it - so anyway - Basiago talks about Tesla's Teleportation that was used in the experiments...

I enjoyed the show ...classic Art Bell... from this channel that I stumbled on the other day...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCvkmNCIti7do_I_wvclIbg


-GooPYDlUYg


https://area51life.com/time-traveler-for-president-in-2024/


Basiago says he experienced eight different time travel technologies throughout the course of project, using a machine called a “teleporter” that was built using the technical papers that had been seized by the government in Nikola Tesla’s New York City apartment after his death in January 1943.

The teleporter “consisted of two gray elliptical booms about eight feet tall, separated by about 10 feet, between which a shimmering curtain of what Tesla called ‘radiant energy’ was broadcast,” Basiago says. “Radiant energy is a form of energy that Tesla discovered that is latent and pervasive in the universe and has among its properties the capacity to bend time-space.”

The photo Basiago talks about of the Gettysburg address (1863) and him being captured on camera (make of it what you will) is also on this link... https://www.cultofweird.com/science/time-travel-project-pegasus/

It's morning in the UK at the mo... but before I gather my thoughts onto more day to day matters I also wanted to lift this from your post...

Denise said...

I claim now openly, that I am speculating as it all fascinates me, mud floods, high tech ancient technology, and those that wielded it. WHERE ARE THEY NOW? After mining our planet, did they "Go home"? And if so, where truly is "Home"?

I wonder if 'they' (Annunaki and maybe others) could only be here in some kind of holographic form because their bodies wouldn't cope with the Earth conditions..... but WE ARE STILL HERE :) ... because we were biologically engineered hybrids designed to be able to exist on Planet Earth... I suspect we can't go too far out from earth without dying because our whole make up is so closely connected to Earth's environment etc... I think there is something called Gaia Containment that is about all that and is a problem when it comes to space travel -

cheers

[Anu Raman]

Pretext: March 24th 2022:

These are the stories of the "Ramanian" people from another world. The linguistics of this text is not accurate, so I have to put these words as 'assumptions' to define what words could fit in the english language. As it is, it is just a story... You come to know them as "Anunnaki", but they have different names... You will need to use your imagination to fill in the missing pieces of this story.

I write this up now as a summary, because there is so much to this story which would literally take me forever to write up.

You may call this story 'crazy'.. but again, it's just a story.... based on true events.

To summarize as much as I can:

Anu - or An.. was an designated Emperor of the planet Raman. He was born genetically engineered for the purpose to communicate with a planetary mechanism. A generation before his birth, a comet had struck the planet while the civilization was at war with it's own artificial intelligence machines. The comet decimated the atmosphere, turning it into a reddish blue color. As an result, there were many uninhabitable places on the planet thus this impact had put to an end, the AI war.

He grew up and became the designated emperor of the planet. Those were the days of sorrow and survival. Many people had died in the war and from the impact of the comet. His people were beginning to become space faring species in the midst of the war. They visited other planets only to harbor mysterious abandoned technological items and put them to a use for their own benefit.

When An first communicated with the planetary mechanism, it was found that this mechanism is also on every inhabited, current or once populated planet in the universe. The mechanism is a guardian of a planet for the purpose to adapt and survive. The mechanism itself also have a 'library' of sorts full of information regarding history of the planet, and it's solar system. Someone had installed a such mechanism on these planets and left them to be discovered by it's inhabitants when it was time to do so. Science and technology had to be advanced enough in order to begin understanding this level of technological intelligence.

After going through the historical artifacts of the mechanism, it was found that there is an equalizer to the mechanism, known as a 'universal devourer'. This 'devourer' is an living sentient 'blackhole' mimicking type creature which devour worlds accordingly to a balance of the universe. This is a life force taking mechanism only when a planet reaches a certain density in it's consciousness field. The consciousness field is an magnetic fringe of a planet's core - magnetism which is currently outside the realm of understanding until the civilization begins to understand "quantum magnetism"...

When this was set into realization, they had begun preparing an adverse towards the 'devourer' because they knew that their planet was about ready to be demolished by this somewhat of an creature. When they began to build the pyramids of the planet, the devourer had already begun attacking their solar system... they had to evacuate from their planet if they were to survive. The 'devourer' began attacking their planet in the midst of their evacuation... it ended up absorbing all of the planet's atmosphere, thus making it barren to life on it's surface.

Plasma electrical energy and intense heat... is the 'devourer's' main components.

The nearest potential and compatible system they could find was this solar system in which Earth resides in. It had to be a compatible system for them to come to because of the consciousness field of the planetary cores. It must be compatible or they would not survive on these planets. As advanced this space travel knowledge is, it is vital to understand that once you reach another planet, it has to be compatible with your own energy consciousness fields, or you may not survive. This is as short as I could get it in explaining this part.

In many SCI FI movies, such as Star Trek, etc, they visit many planets.. but in reality, they have no clue to what affects the human body on these planets. Basic fringe magnetism of the organic tissue takes a quite of bit scientific understanding... This is the best as I can explain it.

When the Raman people landed on the planet Mars, they had previous "intel" that there was a beautiful planet 'next door' which was completely compatible to their life forms all the way to their own basic body magnetic energy. In a such rush to build the pyramids of Mars and Earth, they found that they needed help. The survivors of their own people weren't enough to build what was needed. Revolt ensued and they built the first "mud technological aperature" of mankind's blueprint on Mars. They knew that they had but a short time to build defenses against the universal devourer. The devourer had begun it's hunt on the survivors..

They brought the genetic blue print to Earth and began experimenting on the right prototype of man creature. When the 8th prototype was finalized, they had finally begun to infuse the consciousness field within it's body. A creature rose and began working for these people. Once the creature was realized of his own value to the work, they began multiplying this special creature...

An- The emperor, had decreed that at an minimum of 2500 original stone based pyramids were to be built according to it's specifications. However, the society at the time built way more than just the minimum. These pyramids were built within 20 years of their time.. in a very short time. Stone pyramids that can outlast time, even if they are buried under water, sand and even magma.

He also issued an order to build a space ship which is to be 'unrivaled' to any other, by using a carbon star of special property which is only found in specific red giants. Hardness and tensile of equal footing is a special property of the very hull of the space craft his people built. It had to be unrivaled that nothing in the universe can destroy it except another red giant.

The devourer reached the solar system... it destroyed a crystalline planet Tiamat, and moved towards Mars, while protecting the planet Mars from Tiamat's destruction while it nibbled upon it for the next 5000 years.

Planet Earth's shield were established however before it was fully established, the planetary debris of tiamat struck the north tip of the Earth. The pyramids of the Earth provided energy to protect it's sphere against the devourer from detecting it. The devourer's tentacles were arching the Earth's surface before the shield was finally established. This shield is a well known scientific fact today - known to protect against 'killer electrons'... as heavy as electrical arching plasma could be. Once the shield was fully established, the arching ceased.... this shield is still in effect today.

However, as an summary conclusion to this story - the people had begun to go 'crazy' because the consciousness field of the Earth was impacted by the arching of the devourer.. it began to throw the compatibility off the chart, which resulted in a war between their own people, and so much so on... Since An was genetically engineered, he was able to tolerate this change and was the last to die. After his death, something else happened.... but as it goes, this is as far I will go.

Aluium and his people took their bodies and incinerated them in the Zagros mountain range. An designated Alu to be the first human-raman hybrid king of Earth. Alu was ordered to take all the technology off of this planet, and store it in An's ship cargo bays. The only thing he couldn't take is the technology embedded in the stones of the pyramids. This technology still exists to this day, providing protection to this planet - until this planet repaired itself over countless millions of years. Ice ages had come and went... cataclysms after cataclysms... until the final one.

So thus began the oral tradition between mankind - oral tradition that lasted millions of years until finally written into clay. The sumerian "Anunnaki" is one such story. There are many cultures around the world which tells basically the same story over and over again, but with different names...

Frankly... as I can put it..
It's one helluva mess.. just saying..

-An.

[Denise/Dizi]

Thank you Jaybee!

I have always wondered where Andrew really fit in, regarding the alternative community, and his real involvement in any of it. I do remember, when I became fascinated with the theory that people went to Mars, that I began researching such things. Granted, mostly internet seeking, but I remember the movie alternative 3, which was more a documentary type film, than a movie as we would assess them now.

And I also remember coming across the Serpo information, which was when I found Camelot. I came into this community by way of researching technologies, medical enhancements to humans, and biotech... But was surprised to find, for the most part, anything advanced, is all interconnected at some point.

Once I found Camelot, I fell down that rabbithole... But I was already neck deep in things that were not science fiction, but real science... and making those things fit together can be challenging, when so many in their own journey to be self important, will make any outrageous claim they wish... Humility in this regard seems to be non existant.

If I am not mistaken? I believe I would have skipped Camelot all together as not worth the effort, had I not heard Bill ask one person just one question... Is it possible to move outside of time, travel forwards or backwards and step back in?... I am pretty sure it was Bill, and not the movie "Alternative 3" where this question was asked... But that is what led me here. I felt the only way we would get accurate answers is to know which questions to ask.

I suppose daily we step back in time, via thought... and given we do not know the true nature of our reality, in any mass awareness kind of way? I will not dismiss out of hand, that somewhere on this planet, time travel has not been achieved. Whether deliberately, or accidentally, as a result of an experiment that had an unknown side effect? Or a very intelligent scientist! Andy surely believe he has traveled in time, and demands it as far as his own story. So what if we have, in some way mastered that "Bubble" that moves us outside of time, and then directly back into it? If time and space are intertwined, perhaps?

So that leads to what Bubble do we have to defeat to actually move backwards and forward through time? Traveling in space? Speed of light? Speed of sound? All of the above? Or perhaps something else entirely? Is it as easy as creating a loop through space that folds back upon itself prior to where someone started, and in another location?

I suppose if we were all living in a simulation as some suggest, the theory could be we merely find some way to tap into the hologram, and program another location, add the information of what we are to the finest detail, and we could reappear within the simulation at that point and time... Really, in reality if this is what we live in, it would be very similar to someone using a gaming console, playing a game for half an hour, only to experience a glitch and end up back at the start of the game at the blink of an eye really... While others, on their consoles, are still playing the level they had made it to, within that half an hour right?

While I am sure it is more complicated than that, perhaps the movie "Back to the future" had some basis in fact? Perhaps the equipment in the vehicle, along with the elements in it, did somehow create that bubble to take people out of time... and they were showing us a crude version of the tech, "Tongue in cheek style"

I do remember a man had created a flying platform years back, that used beetle wings for lift... The man suggested he could stand on this platform, using only a pole type handlebar, and fly through the skies at incredible speeds... I believe he claimed he could reach up to 1,000 MPH without ruffling his suit... Claiming an envelope indeed did surround him and protect him...

There was the man Thomas Townsend Brown who had been working on experiments with electricity and such, and he achieved some highly advanced results! Electricity, perhaps magnets, rotation, as well as many other things, and I believe this was when we got anti gravity.. And possibly very much more...

While I do not know if Andrew has anything to do with the Annunaki, I do believe the Annunaki may still be here... And on Mars... As Bill suggested that Henry claimed. And I believe that the literature all over the planet that hints to things, but uses different names for everything, is a result of them not wanting us to know the whole story, as well as the quick turnover in the generations of their breeding on Earth to make humans into what we are now... But that there is some truth in much of it, if you know what to look for.

It's all just really fascinating. Even if we were a species that was genetically enhanced, or sped up? It does make you wonder where we will go next...

I don't think that time travel is what got the Annunaki here... Nor is important on this thread... But it could be... I would love to know more about them, and their role in this solar system, and our development however.

Sorry this was off topic..

[Anu Raman]

There are two types of magnetism that has not been discovered here on Earth.. yet. When it does get discovered, then it's most likely will be named to something else.

So, for now this is what I know.

Sermomagnetism
Tremamagnetism

Sermo means magnetic rotation of a dipole. On top of a magnet, you have one of the field strands which "rotates" while other strands "spread" out. Sermo is also well known in cellular mechanics, intermolecular forces for hydrogen bonding; dipole dipole interactions. Without this principle, hydrogen bonding, for example, would not exist.
Trema means shrouding the rotating magnetic strand; field. Trema is also well known in adaptive magnetic principles such like paramagnetism, diamagnetism, ferri-ferro magnetism, etc, including Earth's magnetic forces.

With these two principles above, you will have achieved a form of "anti-gravitational" force; and the ability to shroud or place a bubbled force around an object.
The study of Trema forces, would override the studies of gravitational forces.. just saying :tape:

In the movies Star Trek, etc, they use what you call a 'force field'.. right?.. well, in order to accomplish this, you would need to know both of these principles above.

Hollywood movies are amazing!... they depict a lot of things in the "Sci fi" realm that we do today. Awesome generational "memories" being now shown on the big screen.

I am pretty sure that certain individuals here on Earth had achieved such effects as outlined above. Pretty well hidden or buried by those who do not want this knowledge (cat) out of the bag, so to speak.

By the way, The Chinese have been trying to access "Espace"; with their powerful lasers.. and we've been kicking them back out. It's not enough for them to deal with their own country, but instead trying to get their own devices into "Espace".. well.. we got some crazy Chinese people especially those in their own "black ops" programs.

You can read all about that here:

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/china-is-building-a-laser-10-trillion-times-more-intense-than-the-sun-that-could-tear-space-apart

By now, at least last year, they would have had refined this technology, and accidentally opened a "portal"....... oh yea... they won't be talking about this little 'incident'...

[TrumanCash]

In response to the opening post I'd like to weigh in on the subject of who were the Anunnaki. I now use the term Anunnaki to represent all the ancient "gods" that are recognized by their symbols from Sumerian to present time. You can know them by their symbols.

I cover this subject in detail in my second book, THE EYE OF RA.

What I found were that the symbols from the carvings of the Sumerian version of the Anunnaki were also the same as the symbols that we have seen throughout history even unto modern times. These symbols also appear in Freemasonry and the Illuminati. Here are just some of the symbols that I found from the Sumerian “Anunnaki”:

Snakes
Caduceus (Two snakes coiled around each other, 180 degrees apart
Winged Snake
Solar Cross
Winged Disk (Flying saucer)
Maltese Cross
Winged Disk with Two Snakes hanging from it (also in Egyptian art)
"Gods" with wings (which, IMO, represent "flying"
"Gods" in costume, sometimes headdresses
Predatory Cats
Stars, Sun, Planets, Moon
"Goddess" with wings (Inanna), later called Ishtar and “Queen of Heaven”
Male "Gods" with beards
Tree of Life

I became interested in the subject of the “ancient gods” when I worked with abductee “Jack Wylie” (pseudonym) in 1994 to recover present life abductions as well as his past life abductions.

One of his abductions occurred in 1632 A.D. when he was a goat herder in what is now near the Greece/Turkey border. He was abducted by ETs dressed in costumes that told him that they were the ancient “gods” and they even gave him some of their previous names in history.

There were men wearing masks and they had beards. There was a woman on board the craft who identified herself throughout Earth’s history as Ishtar, Hecate, Ismet: Jack stated: “She claims to be the God of the Far East...the Goddess, I mean, of the Far East. She seems to have an emphasis on sensuality and sex.” She appears to be the same “goddess” as Inanna in Sumeria.

I later recovered my own memories in Egypt with Ra and Ptah who were the same “gods”.

I found that abductees were abducted from lifetime to lifetime and were sometimes placed in high level positions in government, military, religions and secret societies. So we do have a direct line to the real history of Earth that clarifies what archaeologists, mythologists and researchers often misinterpret.

These “gods” were around six feet tall. Their craft were typical flying saucers and they didn’t have any wings on them. Ra’s ship was thicker in the middle than some of the flying disks we’ve seen. On each side of the ramp into the ship were two human-looking ETs that wore headdresses—one symbolizing Ra and the other symbolizing Thoth.

There were numerous Masonic symbols in the craft which includied Ra and his throne. He wore a seven-pointed sun ray headdress like the Illuminati Statue of Liberty. He wore a gold Rising Sun medallion around his neck, the back of his throne was a Rising Sun symbol and at the end of the arms of his throne were lions’ heads. On Ra’s left side was a staff with one cobra coiled around it. The floor of his ship was a black-and-white checkered floor.

I am not a visual artist but I did my best to draw what Ra of the Anunnaki looked like. Linda Moulton Howe asked me to find a criminal sketch artist but to this day I have not found anyone to draw or paint what I saw. He looked entirely human except for the yellow/gold irises that he had. Also, his voice sounded and felt like thunder and there was a fierceness in his eyes that I could not capture in drawing him. Frankly, I was scared sh*tless.
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These ETs looked entirely human (except for the costumes) they were not giants as some would believe, nor did they have large or elongated heads.

After I recovered numerous events in my previous lifetime in Egypt as a pharaoh (my name was pronounced like Rah-may-cease’), I became very interested in reading Zecharia Sitchin’s books and found two of the incidents that I previously remembered in regressions were in his books and were correctly translated! It was really comforting to have my memories validated in this way.

It therefore appears to me that the Anunnaki were a traveling theater group that traveled through time and around the world, putting on stage plays and programming Earth societies with various religions and secret societies. They told tall tales (sometimes based on real events like the flood), demanded to be worshiped and used the dialectic to keep countries warring with each other.

I originally referred to these ETs as “Serpent Staff Pleiadians” or the “Gizeh Intelligence” (from Billy Meiers notes) as I never heard of the word “Anunnaki” thirty years ago.

Yes, it appears that the Anunnaki are still here and manipulating this planet. They can time travel so what would stop them from doing that? It appears to me that these nefarious ETs are behind the global depopulation and “Great Reset’.

[TrumanCash]

Good morning and welcome to the day of the Rising Sun--a concept originated and popularized by the Anunnaki.

Here is the beginning of an article I wrote nearly three decades ago entitled "The Origin of Christmas". You can read the entire article in THE EYE OF RA starting at page 113 of the PDF (link below). Most of the data came from books (not the internet) in a large library in Spokane, Washinton:

Have you ever wondered where our Christmas traditions came from? Why do we celebrate Christmas on December 25th every year? Why do we cut down evergreen trees and decorate them? Is this really the birth date of a man/god called Jesus Christ? Read on ye innocent lambs--you will be most amazed when you discover what we have not been told.

He was the "Light of the World," the Savior of mankind, the Son of God whose mother, some believed, was a mortal virgin. His birth, celebrated on the 25th of December, was attended by shepherds and by Magi bringing gifts. He healed the sick, raised the dead, cast out demons, caused the blind to see and the lame to walk. At his Last Supper his twelve disciples shared a sacramental meal of bread and wine--the wine representing the Savior's blood and the bread his body. Upon his death he was placed in a stone tomb where he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. His symbol was the cross.

Am I describing the Savior known as Jesus Christ? Absolutely not. This was Mithra, the God of War!

Mithraism was a men-only secret society religion with Masonic overtones. There were at least seven levels of initiation and seven sacraments including baptism and the eucharist. In one rite the initiates were placed in a trench under a grate where a live bull was sacrificed ("Taurobolium"), so that they would be literally "washed in the blood."

The Mithraic symbol of the cross was branded on the initiates forehead. The word "mithra" meant "covenant." Those who were faithful to Mithra went to Heaven, while the unfaithful and wicked were destroyed in the final holocaust. Like most Sun God religions, Mithraists celebrated the rebirth of the sun [Rising Sun] right after the winter solstice on the first day that daylight begins to increase--December 25th.

So did the Mithraists adopt the sacraments and teachings of Jesus Christ from Christians? Not hardly. The worship of Mithra began centuries--and perhaps millennia--before the purported birth of Jesus Christ. We can trace the origin of Mithra back to at least 1400 B.C. when the war-like, nomadic Aryans had invaded what is now India and Iran. The Aryan Sun God was Mitra. In India the Aryan religion eventually developed into Hinduism and then the splinter group, became Buddhism.

In Iran the religion of Zoroastrianism developed in which Mithra was the Sun God, "Lord of Light, " who the Son of God. The God of the Zoroastrians was Ahura Mazda, depicted as a bearded man who flew around in a winged disk, like the Assyrian "God" Ashur, the "All-Seeing", and the Egyptian "God" Ra.

Historians are not certain when the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathustra) started the Persian religion, but it was at least 5 1/2 centuries before Christ. In this apocalyptic, monotheistic religion Zoroaster prophesied that there would appear three Messiahs, each one born of a virgin.

Zoroastrianism was a dualistic, HeavenlHell, good/evil religion in which Ahriman was the head devil, the equivalent of the Christian Satan. Mithraism and Zoroastrianism were syncretized (merged), and Mithra became the good "angel" who saved mankind from the Great Serpent of Darkness, Ahriman. (The name Ahriman and the name of the country of Iran were both taken from the root word "Aryan".) This belief paralleled the Egyptian belief that the Sun God/Son of God Ra defeated the great serpent Apepi (Apophis).

Mithra was depicted as a man wearing Iranian garb with a Phrygian cap, sacrificing a bull. (Phrygia was located in the northwest quadrant of Turkey, and the Phrygian cap was later adopted as the rallying symbol of the Illuminati and the French revolutionists.) Mithraism spread from Persia to Phrygia to the Greek world, but didn't really become widespread until 67 B.C. when it was introduced into the Roman Empire. It then grew rapidly and became very popular with Roman soldiers, statesmen, peasants, and even some emperors like Nero, Julian, and Commodus.

Eventually Mithraism was practiced in cave temples from Scotland to the Far East and was even more popular than Christianity. Mithra's cave-temple on Vatican Hill was seized by Christians in 376 A.D. The Christians gradually appropriated Mithraic sacraments and holidays ("Holy Days") including Easter, and Mithra's high priest's title of Pater Patrum became "Papa" and then "Pope. " Due to the widespread influence of Sun God religions like Mithraism, the Christians changed the Sabbath from Saturn Day to Sun Day.

Another very popular Phrygian mystery religion that greatly influenced Christianity was the Attis/Cybele cult, which did not exclude women. Cybele was just another one of the many names of the "Queen of Heaven", the Goddess Ishtar, Isis, Ashtoreth, Ioanna, Aphrodite, Venus, Marl-Anna, etc. , who was one of Ra's ET cohorts. The Roman Church appropriated the pagan Goddess image by deifying Mary, and beginning in the 12th Century A.D. the iconography in Gothic Churches even depicted the Mother Mary with a crown as the "Queen of Heaven."

[Of course, Jesus Christ was not his real name if he did indeed exist. "Christ" originally meant "anointed", which means to apply or "smear" oil on something or someone. Anointing was used as a fertility rite in the middle east on small penus figures and even on full-sized statues with an erect penus upon which virgins would mount. IMO, it is very likely that Jesus/Yeshua was an ET as the miracles he allegedly performed can all be accomplished by ET technology. It is also possible that Yeshua was not of the Anunnaki per se but instead was a benevolent ET, perhaps "Pleiadian". In any case this symbolism of darkness versus light, good versus evil, satan versus savior dialectic has been used by the Anunnaki as a manipulative tool since time immemorial. "Jesus", the Son/Sun of God and Light of the world, arose from the tomb (darkness/underworld) on the third day (Rising Sun, Dec 25th) after the soltice.]

Also check out how many banks, financial institutions and churches use variations of the Rising Sun symbol. The Rising Sun symbol was on the bank in the "The Truman Show" amongst numerous other symbols.
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[TruthMatters]

They've been here for a long time...

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/a-face-of-ra-ANCIENT-ALIENS-MEME.jpg

[Parsi-X]

Fascinating insights Truman..Im born a Parsi but non practicing Zoroastrian, our winged diety the "farhovar" seems to pop up in annunaki symbology quite often.. i replied to you on your original thread but never heard back.. being a childhood experiencer myself.. have downloaded both your books and eagerly waiting to read them both. Wishing you and all the PA team here a very happy and healthy new year ahead!

[Delight]

They've been here for a long time...

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/a-face-of-ra-ANCIENT-ALIENS-MEME.jpg

was this image created? it does not look natural and how is it known to be 35,000 years old? In 2023, I want stories ALL identified as fiction, all manipulated images clearly a "creation" and ALL claims made backed up by some data that I can investigate. I am tired of the many decades of being given OBVIOUS hooks as manipulations to catch my mind like a fish. The PTB think we are STUPID and why is that? Maybe its true.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I'm gonna guess it's a play on the Shroud of Turin.

[TruthMatters]

Half of it is in the Chauvet cave art..
Mirrored on the direct vetical reveals this full image.
It's not the only very unusual piece to be found in Chauvet..

I have a very rough and short introduction to what else is in the art here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120267-From-deep-space-to-ancient-cave-art-the-creation-of-a-culture.).

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Nope :)

Nice guess though..

Chauvet cave art actually..

[Delight]

Half of it is in the Chauvet cave art..
Mirrored on the direct vetical reveals this full image.
It's not the only very unusual piece to be found in Chauvet..

I have a very rough and short introduction to what else is in the art here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?120267-From-deep-space-to-ancient-cave-art-the-creation-of-a-culture.).

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Nope :)

Nice guess though..

Chauvet cave art actually..

With respect, I have seen this other places here and there. One mirrors an image and calls it something else like a being, an entity, an alien, a whatever one wants it to be. The problem with calling a made up image a "real thing" is it's Just.Not.True.

[TruthMatters]

Tell you what, have a look at the original on the left and tell me that there is not half a face there..

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/face-compared.jpg

Whilst you're here, let's not forget the eye of Ra from the same source..

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/3-1.png

And just to top those two off, how about a piece that matches up with the tomb ceiling of Seti the 1st..

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/hippo-match-set.jpg

I may as well throw Thoth in here, as seen in Lascaux, Chauvet and Easter island..

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Contact-Sheet.jpg

Want any more "made up" images??? I got plenty..

Oooh, i know.. how about the lion rampant as seen on a stone from Gobekli Tepe, A wall in Seminole country park Texas and on Earths surface seen from a height of about 150kms up..

https://truthspeaks.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/felines.jpg

[onawah]

Truman, I didn't find a pdf in your post.
Any links would be much appreciated that go to info attesting to how the Church borrowed from ancient tradiditions to fashion a story that the Pagans could relate to would be appreciated.
I'm very sure that Jesus did exist, but I think the late Sir Lawrence Gardner, who had access to the Vatican Library, got it right when he said records show he didn't die on the cross.
According to his account, Jesus's disciples were able to persuade another doomed man to take his place on Golgotha, and they spirited Jesus away.
But he had suffered scourging at the hands of the Roman soldiers, and his health was never the same.
He had been married (as all rabbis had to be) to Mary Magdalene (who was not a prostitute) and fathered children by her.
They parted ways probably because Jesus feared for her safety if they had stayed together since he was a "wanted man".
She and her children and James sailed for France where she lived and taught for many years.
Jesus continued to teach as well in the Middle East, but also left Israel.

Good morning and welcome to the day of the Rising Sun--a concept originated and popularized by the Anunnaki.

Here is the beginning of an article I wrote nearly three decades ago entitled "The Origin of Christmas". You can read the entire article in THE EYE OF RA starting at page 113 of the PDF (link below). Most of the data came from books (not the internet) in a large library in Spokane, Washinton:

Have you ever wondered where our Christmas traditions came from? Why do we celebrate Christmas on December 25th every year? Why do we cut down evergreen trees and decorate them? Is this really the birth date of a man/god called Jesus Christ? Read on ye innocent lambs--you will be most amazed when you discover what we have not been told.

He was the "Light of the World," the Savior of mankind, the Son of God whose mother, some believed, was a mortal virgin. His birth, celebrated on the 25th of December, was attended by shepherds and by Magi bringing gifts. He healed the sick, raised the dead, cast out demons, caused the blind to see and the lame to walk. At his Last Supper his twelve disciples shared a sacramental meal of bread and wine--the wine representing the Savior's blood and the bread his body. Upon his death he was placed in a stone tomb where he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. His symbol was the cross.

Am I describing the Savior known as Jesus Christ? Absolutely not. This was Mithra, the God of War!

Mithraism was a men-only secret society religion with Masonic overtones. There were at least seven levels of initiation and seven sacraments including baptism and the eucharist. In one rite the initiates were placed in a trench under a grate where a live bull was sacrificed ("Taurobolium"), so that they would be literally "washed in the blood."

The Mithraic symbol of the cross was branded on the initiates forehead. The word "mithra" meant "covenant." Those who were faithful to Mithra went to Heaven, while the unfaithful and wicked were destroyed in the final holocaust. Like most Sun God religions, Mithraists celebrated the rebirth of the sun [Rising Sun] right after the winter solstice on the first day that daylight begins to increase--December 25th.

So did the Mithraists adopt the sacraments and teachings of Jesus Christ from Christians? Not hardly. The worship of Mithra began centuries--and perhaps millennia--before the purported birth of Jesus Christ. We can trace the origin of Mithra back to at least 1400 B.C. when the war-like, nomadic Aryans had invaded what is now India and Iran. The Aryan Sun God was Mitra. In India the Aryan religion eventually developed into Hinduism and then the splinter group, became Buddhism.

In Iran the religion of Zoroastrianism developed in which Mithra was the Sun God, "Lord of Light, " who the Son of God. The God of the Zoroastrians was Ahura Mazda, depicted as a bearded man who flew around in a winged disk, like the Assyrian "God" Ashur, the "All-Seeing", and the Egyptian "God" Ra.

Historians are not certain when the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathustra) started the Persian religion, but it was at least 5 1/2 centuries before Christ. In this apocalyptic, monotheistic religion Zoroaster prophesied that there would appear three Messiahs, each one born of a virgin.

Zoroastrianism was a dualistic, HeavenlHell, good/evil religion in which Ahriman was the head devil, the equivalent of the Christian Satan. Mithraism and Zoroastrianism were syncretized (merged), and Mithra became the good "angel" who saved mankind from the Great Serpent of Darkness, Ahriman. (The name Ahriman and the name of the country of Iran were both taken from the root word "Aryan".) This belief paralleled the Egyptian belief that the Sun God/Son of God Ra defeated the great serpent Apepi (Apophis).

Mithra was depicted as a man wearing Iranian garb with a Phrygian cap, sacrificing a bull. (Phrygia was located in the northwest quadrant of Turkey, and the Phrygian cap was later adopted as the rallying symbol of the Illuminati and the French revolutionists.) Mithraism spread from Persia to Phrygia to the Greek world, but didn't really become widespread until 67 B.C. when it was introduced into the Roman Empire. It then grew rapidly and became very popular with Roman soldiers, statesmen, peasants, and even some emperors like Nero, Julian, and Commodus.

Eventually Mithraism was practiced in cave temples from Scotland to the Far East and was even more popular than Christianity. Mithra's cave-temple on Vatican Hill was seized by Christians in 376 A.D. The Christians gradually appropriated Mithraic sacraments and holidays ("Holy Days") including Easter, and Mithra's high priest's title of Pater Patrum became "Papa" and then "Pope. " Due to the widespread influence of Sun God religions like Mithraism, the Christians changed the Sabbath from Saturn Day to Sun Day.

Another very popular Phrygian mystery religion that greatly influenced Christianity was the Attis/Cybele cult, which did not exclude women. Cybele was just another one of the many names of the "Queen of Heaven", the Goddess Ishtar, Isis, Ashtoreth, Ioanna, Aphrodite, Venus, Marl-Anna, etc. , who was one of Ra's ET cohorts. The Roman Church appropriated the pagan Goddess image by deifying Mary, and beginning in the 12th Century A.D. the iconography in Gothic Churches even depicted the Mother Mary with a crown as the "Queen of Heaven."

[Of course, Jesus Christ was not his real name if he did indeed exist. "Christ" originally meant "anointed", which means to apply or "smear" oil on something or someone. Anointing was used as a fertility rite in the middle east on small penus figures and even on full-sized statues with an erect penus upon which virgins would mount. IMO, it is very likely that Jesus/Yeshua was an ET as the miracles he allegedly performed can all be accomplished by ET technology. It is also possible that Yeshua was not of the Anunnaki per se but instead was a benevolent ET, perhaps "Pleiadian". In any case this symbolism of darkness versus light, good versus evil, satan versus savior dialectic has been used by the Anunnaki as a manipulative tool since time immemorial. "Jesus", the Son/Sun of God and Light of the world, arose from the tomb (darkness/underworld) on the third day (Rising Sun, Dec 25th) after the soltice.]

Also check out how many banks, financial institutions and churches use variations of the Rising Sun symbol. The Rising Sun symbol was on the bank in the "The Truman Show" amongst numerous other symbols.

[TrumanCash]

Truman, I didn't find a pdf in your post.
Any links would be much appreciated that go to info attesting to how the Church borrowed from ancient tradiditions to fashion a story that the Pagans could relate to would be appreciated.
I'm very sure that Jesus did exist, but I think the late Sir Lawrence Gardner, who had access to the Vatican Library, got it right when he said records show he didn't die on the cross.
According to his account, Jesus's disciples were able to persuade another doomed man to take his place on Golgotha, and they spirited Jesus away.
But he had suffered scourging at the hands of the Roman soldiers, and his health was never the same.
He had been married (as all rabbis had to be) to Mary Magdalene (who was not a prostitute) and fathered children by her.
They parted ways probably because Jesus feared for her safety if they had stayed together since he was a "wanted man".
She and her children and James sailed for France where she lived and taught for many years.
Jesus continued to teach as well in the Middle East, but also left Israel.

Good morning and welcome to the day of the Rising Sun--a concept originated and popularized by the Anunnaki.

Here is the beginning of an article I wrote nearly three decades ago entitled "The Origin of Christmas". You can read the entire article in THE EYE OF RA starting at page 113 of the PDF (link below). Most of the data came from books (not the internet) in a large library in Spokane, Washinton:

Have you ever wondered where our Christmas traditions came from? Why do we celebrate Christmas on December 25th every year? Why do we cut down evergreen trees and decorate them? Is this really the birth date of a man/god called Jesus Christ? Read on ye innocent lambs--you will be most amazed when you discover what we have not been told.

He was the "Light of the World," the Savior of mankind, the Son of God whose mother, some believed, was a mortal virgin. His birth, celebrated on the 25th of December, was attended by shepherds and by Magi bringing gifts. He healed the sick, raised the dead, cast out demons, caused the blind to see and the lame to walk. At his Last Supper his twelve disciples shared a sacramental meal of bread and wine--the wine representing the Savior's blood and the bread his body. Upon his death he was placed in a stone tomb where he was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. His symbol was the cross.

Am I describing the Savior known as Jesus Christ? Absolutely not. This was Mithra, the God of War!

Mithraism was a men-only secret society religion with Masonic overtones. There were at least seven levels of initiation and seven sacraments including baptism and the eucharist. In one rite the initiates were placed in a trench under a grate where a live bull was sacrificed ("Taurobolium"), so that they would be literally "washed in the blood."

The Mithraic symbol of the cross was branded on the initiates forehead. The word "mithra" meant "covenant." Those who were faithful to Mithra went to Heaven, while the unfaithful and wicked were destroyed in the final holocaust. Like most Sun God religions, Mithraists celebrated the rebirth of the sun [Rising Sun] right after the winter solstice on the first day that daylight begins to increase--December 25th.

So did the Mithraists adopt the sacraments and teachings of Jesus Christ from Christians? Not hardly. The worship of Mithra began centuries--and perhaps millennia--before the purported birth of Jesus Christ. We can trace the origin of Mithra back to at least 1400 B.C. when the war-like, nomadic Aryans had invaded what is now India and Iran. The Aryan Sun God was Mitra. In India the Aryan religion eventually developed into Hinduism and then the splinter group, became Buddhism.

In Iran the religion of Zoroastrianism developed in which Mithra was the Sun God, "Lord of Light, " who the Son of God. The God of the Zoroastrians was Ahura Mazda, depicted as a bearded man who flew around in a winged disk, like the Assyrian "God" Ashur, the "All-Seeing", and the Egyptian "God" Ra.

Historians are not certain when the prophet Zoroaster (Zarathustra) started the Persian religion, but it was at least 5 1/2 centuries before Christ. In this apocalyptic, monotheistic religion Zoroaster prophesied that there would appear three Messiahs, each one born of a virgin.

Zoroastrianism was a dualistic, HeavenlHell, good/evil religion in which Ahriman was the head devil, the equivalent of the Christian Satan. Mithraism and Zoroastrianism were syncretized (merged), and Mithra became the good "angel" who saved mankind from the Great Serpent of Darkness, Ahriman. (The name Ahriman and the name of the country of Iran were both taken from the root word "Aryan".) This belief paralleled the Egyptian belief that the Sun God/Son of God Ra defeated the great serpent Apepi (Apophis).

Mithra was depicted as a man wearing Iranian garb with a Phrygian cap, sacrificing a bull. (Phrygia was located in the northwest quadrant of Turkey, and the Phrygian cap was later adopted as the rallying symbol of the Illuminati and the French revolutionists.) Mithraism spread from Persia to Phrygia to the Greek world, but didn't really become widespread until 67 B.C. when it was introduced into the Roman Empire. It then grew rapidly and became very popular with Roman soldiers, statesmen, peasants, and even some emperors like Nero, Julian, and Commodus.

Eventually Mithraism was practiced in cave temples from Scotland to the Far East and was even more popular than Christianity. Mithra's cave-temple on Vatican Hill was seized by Christians in 376 A.D. The Christians gradually appropriated Mithraic sacraments and holidays ("Holy Days") including Easter, and Mithra's high priest's title of Pater Patrum became "Papa" and then "Pope. " Due to the widespread influence of Sun God religions like Mithraism, the Christians changed the Sabbath from Saturn Day to Sun Day.

Another very popular Phrygian mystery religion that greatly influenced Christianity was the Attis/Cybele cult, which did not exclude women. Cybele was just another one of the many names of the "Queen of Heaven", the Goddess Ishtar, Isis, Ashtoreth, Ioanna, Aphrodite, Venus, Marl-Anna, etc. , who was one of Ra's ET cohorts. The Roman Church appropriated the pagan Goddess image by deifying Mary, and beginning in the 12th Century A.D. the iconography in Gothic Churches even depicted the Mother Mary with a crown as the "Queen of Heaven."

[Of course, Jesus Christ was not his real name if he did indeed exist. "Christ" originally meant "anointed", which means to apply or "smear" oil on something or someone. Anointing was used as a fertility rite in the middle east on small penus figures and even on full-sized statues with an erect penus upon which virgins would mount. IMO, it is very likely that Jesus/Yeshua was an ET as the miracles he allegedly performed can all be accomplished by ET technology. It is also possible that Yeshua was not of the Anunnaki per se but instead was a benevolent ET, perhaps "Pleiadian". In any case this symbolism of darkness versus light, good versus evil, satan versus savior dialectic has been used by the Anunnaki as a manipulative tool since time immemorial. "Jesus", the Son/Sun of God and Light of the world, arose from the tomb (darkness/underworld) on the third day (Rising Sun, Dec 25th) after the soltice.]

Also check out how many banks, financial institutions and churches use variations of the Rising Sun symbol. The Rising Sun symbol was on the bank in the "The Truman Show" amongst numerous other symbols.


THE EYE OF RA link is at the bottom of all my posts along with the link to my first book, THE PROGRAMMING OF A PLANET.

[TrumanCash]

Fascinating insights Truman..Im born a Parsi but non practicing Zoroastrian, our winged diety the "farhovar" seems to pop up in annunaki symbology quite often.. i replied to you on your original thread but never heard back.. being a childhood experiencer myself.. have downloaded both your books and eagerly waiting to read them both. Wishing you and all the PA team here a very happy and healthy new year ahead!

I replied to your post on my original "Matrix Revealed" thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions&p=1534060&viewfull=1#post1534060. I guess I should have replied with your quote so you would have been notified.