Disputing Reptilian "Shapeshifters"? Care to "Meet" One? [Archive]

king anthony

14th May 2011, 20:22

Before I begin, I kindly ask that no one post in this thread until the person of discussion posts next (in the number two post) - as this thread is about the person of discussion, meaning this thread is not about me. This is my introduction to the said person and I do have this person's permission to post this thread. I will repeat this request at the end of this introduction.

http://www.think-aboutit.com/images/REPS/001-M.jpg

Here in the forum, I give away a free copy of my manuscript/book titled "The One With No Face, My Story My Life (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14601-The-One-With-No-Face-My-Story-My-Life)". In the book, I eventually describe one experience I had with a person I would later nickname "liZard". Here are a few excerpts from my manuscript/book:

"...eyes had changed and I had seen a vision (or I think it was a vision as I cannot explain it)... eyes had fluttered and became greenish-yellow with slits. I knew that, which was looking at me was not... I was more startled than anything... Little did I know there would be more to this...

We even discussed my speaking to this thing, if at all real, however, I have a fear, which I confessed... The fear was not of whatever it is that may be inside of or around... as I feel absolutely no threat from it. My fear was my knowing that if I was to get emotionally charged... could be caught in the middle of something. I cannot believe I am even sharing this story right now [in these printed words] as it sounds way too 'crazy'. I decided against speaking to this..."

This began my encounters with, at least the ones I have recollection of, the "reptilian" species. I say, there are more then just the eyes that change, much more (this was the "vision" part I wrote about). Throughout this person's life, many others have witnessed this "shapeshifting"; therefore, I make no claim to be the only person who has witnessed this with them or it being a rare event.

Since the time we met, we have discussed meeting and my communicating with the "reptilian" "within"; each time we became serious about doing this something "came up" that prevented our meeting (sometimes serious events). I suspect the "species" (or the one "within") imposes on this person directly and indirectly; thus our plan not being able to take place - yet.

The last time this person and I spoke was December 2010 before I lost touch; we were discussing to meet up. Literally, just the "other day" we reconnected via text. This person is eager, yet "shy", about speaking publically about this topic - and I have no idea how this will turn out.

I do know this person seeks information on this topic (other's thoughts); I can say firsthand, simply because one has "something more" in their lives does not mean they are better then others or know everything; there are still things unknown to "us".

I have a text from the said person today; I will quote parts of it:

"...ask for thoughts and opinions on the lizard thing cuz I'm not at all sure about it or what should be done... and I don't want to be the resident circus freak!"

This person will be seeking the thoughts of those here in Project Avalon - as well as help.

To anyone interested in this topic, I introduce you to a real (what is commonly referred to as) "reptilian shapeshifter" (reptilian projection) - the friend I call "liZard" - and welcome to Project Avalon.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_wRgPDtLng6I/SIoyeF5KbAI/AAAAAAAAAG0/7QPMcixv0CQ/s400/ubaid-reptilian.jpg

To reiterate; I kindly ask that no one post in this thread until the person of discussion posts next (in the number two post) - as this thread is about the person of discussion, meaning this thread is not about me. This is my introduction to the said person and I do have this person's permission to post this thread.

I ask that everyone have patience with this person as I do not know when they will make the next post to begin discussions.

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I say, I can assure everyone this is the real thing as I have witnessed and stated.

persephonewillow

14th May 2011, 23:58

hi forums.

so... i'm not even sure what to say or where to start.

KingAnthony is telling the truth about not being the only one to comment on the unusual sightings in me. my parents are born again Chrisitians and i have been told by both them and people in their Christian community that they have seen a "demon" in my eyes. some people have elaborated and said it looks snake like. 99% of these people have said they see it in my eyes. as a side note, my parents never advertised that i was "demon possessed", so i think what they saw was genuine, not influenced by the talk of my parents. know what i mean?

i have never witnessed this in myself. i have never looked in the mirror and saw a reptile or demon looking back at me. however, on rare occasions i do feel different. i become accutely aware that i have eyeballs. yes, i know that sounds silly. but really, think about it, on a daily basis, going about your normal stuff, do you ever really feel your eyes doing their job? i'm very concious of them and the movements they make. and when this happens it's inevitable that someone has witnessed the reptilian like eyes in me. that is what happened the night i talked to KingAnthony. that whole conversation i was weirdly aware of my eyes. and later he confessed he saw something weird happen to them.

i don't know what all this means. i don't know much about reptilians. i don't know much about demons, or aliens or any other sort of non-human being. i don't know if this is a negetive thing or a positive thing or something that really doesn't matter either way. i'm not even sure i totally believe any of this is real. but how can it not be when more than one person, unrelated people at different times in my life, have mentioned my eyes looking demon/reptilian like? eventually my thoughts lead to me thinking i must be crazy. or they must be crazy.

so. here i am. like KingAnthony said, i don't want to be a circus freak here. i don't want to be the weird reptilian woman. i want thoughts, opinions, information and answers because, frankly, i'm at a loss and am having trouble wrapping my head around the whole thing.

king anthony

15th May 2011, 00:08

Thank you to everyone for waiting to post - feel free to post now. And on behalf of Project Avalon, I welcome persephonewillow.

dejavu

15th May 2011, 00:37

Thank you to both King Anthony and Persenphonewillow, the former for being there for the latter and the latter for being brave enough to come forward. I'm sorry I have no expertise in this area. I do have a very sensible and logical head on my shoulders and from that kind of perspective I say to you Pesenphonewillow you are a brave and very strong willed person. Be aware of that and let it guide you. We are in many ways what people tell us we are. It would seem you have had many confusing messages who you are yet you know that and you seek to clarify the confusion even though it is 'unusual' and must be quite frightening. You are not any kind of freak, you are a woman seeking answers and while you look outwardly for these answers you might receive some guidance and I hope you do, Project Avalon is certainly the right place to seek guidance. However answers are likely to come from within Personphonewillow and you have proven to have inner strength I suggest you look within................much love dejavu

Lost Soul

15th May 2011, 00:47

KingAnthony - thank you for the group introduction.

Persenphonewillow - whether you are human or reptilian, you're another child of The Creator. Welcome and walk always in the light.

Jeffrey

15th May 2011, 01:08

johnf

15th May 2011, 01:09

Thank you King Anthony for the intro, and Persephone for the sharing of your experiences.
I get the distinct impression from both of the starting posts that there is something of important going on here and
that is definitely in the realm of psychic contact. I feel compelled to interpret the sensations concerning your eyes
as an act of some other being using your eyes to view your world through them. Possibly this being has some form of reptilian body
but the reptilian appearances of your eyes to others when you are in this state may also be something that that being wants to project.
There is someone who is on this forum that has seen an apparition much like the one pictured above , with the eyes as you describe them.
In talking to them I get the distinct impression that there is an intention to produce fear with the "projection".
Good luck in exploring this situation further, and in turning the phenomenon into some sort of positive outcome.

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 01:26

Welcome, Persephonewillow.

I am interested to know, what is your blood type? Also, have you considered past life regression therapy? Even though your soul may have incarnated in a myriad of different bodies, the body you are in now could have specific memories associated with past lives, as it has it's own intelligence.

I am no expert in these subjects, but I do read about them.

I hope you find the answers your looking for.

Much Love and Thanks,

Vivek

thank you Vivek :) i never thought about blood type being a contributing factor :) i will find out what mine is. also, i've never done past life regression therapy. to be honest, i wouldn't know who to turn to do such a thing. i'm open to trying it though. what have i got to lose? :)

-z

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 01:38

I feel compelled to interpret the sensations concerning your eyes
as an act of some other being using your eyes to view your world through them.

this seems to be the concensus of the few people who have talked to me about this rather unusual issue.

although how another being can be in me without me knowing it's there, or that it comes and goes, baffles me. what does it do when there other than freak out people by showing itself in my eyes? what is the purpose of it looking through my eyes? does it not have a body of it's own? does it hop from one person to another? is it always with me?

i don't live an extraordinary life. i live a rather plain and normal-ish one. i don't have contact with anyone who has control over the way our society works, most of my friends are very average, with average jobs, average houses/apartments... you get the idea. :) so why it has come to me is in and of itself a puzzle.

hrmm. i got a little carried away and typed more than i meant to in reply to you johnf. but i think i'll leave it out there as a inquiries for the forum. :)

the_flyingboy

15th May 2011, 01:38

welcome to Avalon persephonewillow i'm very happy that you came forth even though all about the bad things said about reptilians, if you go to youtube and type "Klaus Dona" which i have seen in one of his videos he has a statue of a reptilian roughly 10.000 yrs old +.
I would like to add you as a freind i would be honered if you would accept.

Sebastion

15th May 2011, 01:58

Hello persephoniewillow and welcome to Avalon! My best advice to you would be to seek out a reputable master psychic. There are some exceptional ones out there! You have not mentioned any mental interferences, so I wouldn't be overly concerned about it until receiving more information that you feel to be the truth about you. Enjoy Avalon as there are lots of cool folk here!

Thinking Allowed

15th May 2011, 02:13

I've been thinking for something to say about this post for 20 minutes and I can't come up with anything really suitable to say. However, if there is a reptile energy inside you but you feel no effects and act as a kind person then it has no power over you anyway. If you carry sinister thoughts which would not seem acceptable to the average Joe then you might need to consider being very worried. If not, try not to worry too much about it. Take care.

D-Day

15th May 2011, 02:14

Hi persephonewillow, welcome to PA :)

Thank you for coming here and sharing your story with us, indeed you are a courageous woman and I appreciate very much what you are attempting to do here - I hope you find what you are looking for!

I'm not sure if this might be considered "too much too soon" but I though I would post it anyway and let others here help you decide (maybe King Anthony) whether or not it is suitable material for you to view at this stage of your research...

The following video is a documentary by David Icke which features stories/teachings from a South-African shaman by the name of Credo Mutwa. The documentary is entitled 'The Reptilian Agenda' and in it Credo offers a wealth of information regarding his views on the reptilian race, their history here on planet Earth, the nature of their interactions with human beings and the theory that they have infiltrated the highest levels of our society in an attempt to control us and this planet.

Before watching this documentary (if you choose to) please be advised that much of the content paints the reptilian race in quite a negative light. I personally don't know how much truth there is to Credo's information on this subject but he seems to speak with authority and while all of the information he presents may not be 100% accurate I feel it is likely that the overwhelming majority of it is - just my personal opinion though ;)

That said, I'll leave it up to you to decide whether this is useful information or not... just thought there might be something in it that would help you to better understand what is happening.

Regards
Dan

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bennycog

15th May 2011, 02:36

persephone the goddess of the underworld birthing of spring.. my daughters name is persephanie..
Lets hope you can let your inner self talk here and answer some questions that "you" would like to ask it.

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 03:13

DianeKJ

15th May 2011, 03:14

Hello and welcome to the forums. I personally believe most people have a pretty mixed bag of dna and that we all come from the stars and other races and a mixture of those races. Anyway, don't be fearful of it, just part of the learning journey and we are all from the creator as someone previously mentioned. :)
Namaste,
di

mosquito

15th May 2011, 03:22

Reptilians aren't my field of understanding, what I would ask you is this :

When aware of your eyeballs, are you aware of any other feelings or emotions, thoughts that seem unnatural to you ?
Do you yourself feel fear at these times ?
Do those who notice this change in you feel threatened in any way ?

Other than that, I think the advice previously given is very sound - go and see a gifted, genuine psychic.
Welcome to Avalon, have no fear, we're all with you !
Philip

ghostrider

15th May 2011, 03:29

could be a past life hanging on and trying to merge into this life. I'm thinking you could have been a reptilian in the past, reptilian dna basically over time, does not change. your spirit is searching for balance between forms. hope this helps, I'm no expert, just thinking/feeling out-loud. Welcome to Avalon any friend of King Anthony is a friend of mine.

ghostrider

15th May 2011, 03:41

you should see Dolores Cannon, past life regression, and check out her youtube vids.

D-Day

15th May 2011, 03:43

thank you D-Day. i was aware that reptilians are seen in a generally negative light. when KingAnthony suggested i join this group and talk about the experiences i've had with this other being i was hesitant because of the way it seems people see reptilians as a malevolent race. i was afraid, first of all, that i wouldn't even be accepted as a member. and secondly that if i did agree to talk about people seeing reptilian like features in my eyes that they would immediately view me as bad, or as an enemy trying to infiltrate the group or something.

i do thank you all for welcoming me :D

d-day, i will watch the video asap :) thank you for sharing it with me :)

Hi again persephonewillow,

I think you'll find that we here at PA are quite an open-minded and accepting bunch ;)

In fact, I think you'll also find that the majority of people here would say that the reptilian species, like any other species for that matter, would likely be made up of both benevolent and malevolent individuals/groups of individuals.

That said, I would suggest that if the being/entity that is connecting with you were of a malevolent persuasion that you would be well aware of its intentions by now. On the same hand, the fact that you have not yet sensed in it any evil/negative-intent is a pretty good indication that it is likely to be of positive/benevolent persuasion... again, just my opinion!

Lord Sidious

15th May 2011, 07:04

marko

15th May 2011, 07:59

Hi, much love to you and welcome to avalon :) And thanks, KingAnthony, for opening a door here, respect. I'm gonna start reading the book right away, cannot let it pass :)
Persephonewillow, i wonder, what are your thoughts about this topic (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17198-David-from-Inua-March-2011!-What-is-Happening-and-What-Will-Happen!) on avalon. About the interview..?

Love and light,
Marko.

Tangri

15th May 2011, 08:04

Hi Persephonewillow.,

If your concern is only your eyes I have a story to share;

One time in my youth I met a young brilliant boy. He was ,is a squint-eyed person and most of the other boys avoided from him because of his appearance.
First I met him at the chess table then our friendship suddenly start and build every day.
I lost unnecessary few other friends because of my friendship with him . He became a MD and now a CEO at very privilege Hospital.

Tangri

15th May 2011, 08:08

Lord Sidious

15th May 2011, 08:27

thank you D-Day. i was aware that reptilians are seen in a generally negative light. when KingAnthony suggested i join this group and talk about the experiences i've had with this other being i was hesitant because of the way it seems people see reptilians as a malevolent race. i was afraid, first of all, that i wouldn't even be accepted as a member. and secondly that if i did agree to talk about people seeing reptilian like features in my eyes that they would immediately view me as bad, or as an enemy trying to infiltrate the group or something.

i do thank you all for welcoming me :D

d-day, i will watch the video asap :) thank you for sharing it with me :)

Welcome to avalon. I have read our friends book where he mentions you.
Don't worry about people attacking you, that won't happen here.
And if it does, I have some carrots that will put a stop to em.

Carrots are good for eyes(also parsley)

Makes the nostrils sting too, when shoved up far enough.
Best way to deal with nuggetry, trust me.

Timmoth

15th May 2011, 09:06

It's interesting about the eyes, reminding me of Camelot's Duncan O'Finian interview.
He said that when he gets aggravated or even works out intensely, his other persona takes over and his eyes change - and his friends have witnessed it happen (the other persona is one created in him by gov't programming when he was younger...)

Blue

15th May 2011, 09:14

Hi Persenphonewillow,

Welcome, and dont worry about telling your story. . . people here are very open and understanding.
You are not a freak at all firstly, and I hope you arent too scarred by people telling you there is a demon in your eyes, that awful. This change in your eyes could be down to something biological .. . maybe an ancient gene you happened to inherit. If it is genes, I am sure there are test out there to check out your eye genes or whatever they are called! Anyway dont worry, and enjoy the forum!
blue

DoubleHelix

15th May 2011, 11:05

Well this seems highly appropriate, AlexanderLight just created a Thread named ' Reptilian Eyes: Nazi Wilhelm Keitel ' equipped with an image and video to boot. Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20560-Reptilian-Eyes-Nazi-Wilhelm-Keitel

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UhRj55s-Pz8/TcwJi_xoOJI/AAAAAAAABVQ/iVTmC5VZygc/s1600/Keitl+Possessed+-+Sharpen+Lvl+23.png

My Question to King Anthony or Persephonewillow is, is this similar to what others have witnessed as been seen in your eyes P?

* I've also noticed George Bush Snr's eyes do this before.

sllim11

15th May 2011, 11:09

i agree with johnf,

"Thank you King Anthony for the intro, and Persephone for the sharing of your experiences.
I get the distinct impression from both of the starting posts that there is something of important going on here and
that is definitely in the realm of psychic contact. I feel compelled to interpret the sensations concerning your eyes
as an act of some other being using your eyes to view your world through them."

i got a strange feeling when reading antony's description of what your eyes look like when doing this. it seemed very real to me and put a chill up my spine. noy in a bad way just a definite vibe i picked up. first and foremost do not be fearful. seems you are not which as someone said is probably a good sign. my gut tells me it is possibly an entity trying to do what i do not know. now, this may sound crazy... i am sober and when i used to drink, there were a handful of times when (being completely out of my mind!) a person would say the next day that my eyes looked really weird that they couldn't even explain it. they all said it totally freaked them out and scared them. that it was very creepy. no one said that they looked reptile but i believe that entities can and do go into persons when they (the person) are heavily under the influence. i have theories about this considering what blackouts are. anyway, it sounded and felt familiar. if it is an entity, my guess and from personal experience, you can get it "cleared" fairly easily. i think that, as said before, to see a good psychic would be a good place to start and possibly they could clear it for you or recommend someone, if that is what it is....

hope this was helpful in some way. and welcome to avalon.

may Light. fill, surround and protect you always.

oceanz

15th May 2011, 12:14

Hi, and warmest welcome Persephonewillow

Have you seen an Ophthalmologist? They are an eye doctor concerned with the anatomy, physiology and diseases of the eye.

I am wondering if the condition of your eyes was something that happened in gestation - left over elvolutionary from reptiles to mammals?

For example, Syndactyly (Webbed toes) occurs when apoptosis or programmed cell death during gestation is absent or incomplete. In humans it is considered unusual, occurring in approximately one in 2,000 to 2,500 live births. However, Webbed toes are normal in birds who are descendants of dinosaurs and so on down the line to Humans.

Maybe apoptosis did not occur in regards to your eyes, leaving a trace of reptalian and the ability to shift from a round to a vertical pupil.

I hope you seek the answers and support in Project Avalon.

DNA

15th May 2011, 14:00

Have you heard of the Lacerta interview? It's an interview with a female reptillian.
The being seems benign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xxXoccSw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib24DJkrbZ8&feature=related

This video retelling is just a snippet of the whole story. If it interests you, I suggest you find the whole conversation in text online.

king anthony

15th May 2011, 14:08

My Question to King Anthony or Persephonewillow is, is this similar to what others have witnessed as been seen in your eyes

Thank you for quoting me; this thread belongs to persephonewillow (a.k.a. liZard) and I do not want to take away from her story.

I can only give answer for myself with regards to the question. It appears to me, based on what I know of her, is that her life experiences differ to mine. Even the "change" I have been told I go through is not that of a "reptilian"; eyes I have seen in my life vary as well.

With persephonewillow, it was much more then the eyes that changed and the experiences after (without her) most definitely. In my book I mention "a vision" - that was a split-second thought I had at the moment when it occurred. I have told of these things (regarding the "reptilians") in other related threads.

I will describe, as best as I can, what I had seen that one particular night (in brief). As she and I were talking in my car, I noticed her eyes; the whites of her eyes changed color to "yellowish" and yes, there was no mistaking "slits".

Around her eyes also changed; however, the area did not remain consistent, as the "edge" seemed to "float". There was definitely a scaly appearance with "brilliant" colors of greens, yellows, browns... multiple colors.

The colors were amazing to see, not repulsive in any way. As it looked at me and I looked at it (persephonewillow continued speaking) it seemed to turn away when it realized I was looking at it; I had the feeling of "shyness" from it.

Description of "turn away"; its eyes looked away from me and persephonewillow's head seemed to follow, yet she kept talking - by now, I was not really listening to her. This went on for... a while. It seemed startled that I took note of it. At one point, I felt as though it was "trying to put something into my head" - but couldn't.

It seemed as curious about me as I was about it. However, this seemed to change as my curiosity turned into "my emotional charge" (not literally) and I had the sense it was very uncomfortable with me. This "emotional charge" (as I call it in my book) was not intentional; rather it came instinctively.

For a moment, "we" just looked at each other and I believe persephonewillow paused for a second or two. After all this, it just faded away. My later experiences with this species would show much more; however, this thread is not about me - therefore I ask that no questions be asked about this here, thank you.

marko

15th May 2011, 14:12

Have you heard of the Lacerta interview? It's an interview with a female reptillian.
The being seems benign.

This video retelling is just a snippet of the whole story. If it interests you, I suggest you find the whole conversation in text online.

Thank you, very interesting..

kersley

15th May 2011, 14:20

Why Reptilian? Can you be sure that the being inside of you is a reptile? What special gift to you have? are you able to manipulate peoples mind and thoughts?
Thanks

John Parslow

15th May 2011, 16:18

Hello King Anthony

Thank you very much for your very thoughtful introduction, also many thanks and welcome to persephonewillow for being so brave to state her circumstances on an open forum like Avalon.

Persenphonewillow - whether you are human or reptilian, you're another child of The Creator. Welcome and walk always in the light.

I totally concur with Lost Soul’s statement here and so well put.

I am sure that you will find only helpful souls here who will be pleased to try and assist you through this situation in the most positive way. I think it is rather unfortunate that some people have used the word ‘demon’ in reference to you when in fact it would seem you are just a bit different to the common herd as it were.

I hope you find love and peace and of course a solution to your worries, I would be very happy to correspond with you about your reservations if you wish, just PM me …

Love and peace to you. JP :cool:

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 18:06

thanks oceanz. :) i've been to optometrists plenty of times in my life... i've been wearing glasses since grade 1. well, i'm supposed to wear them. but let's keep it between you and me that the only times i actually do wear them is when i'm driving or playing video games. ;) important things ;) none of them has ever mentioned anything unusual about my eyes. i've never asked about the changes people see though... i don't want to sound crazy. and it has never crossed my mind while i'm in the midst of the tests in the optometrists office.

weird that you mention the webbed toes. my brother has webbed toes. just one web between two of his smaller toes. the rest of them are normal. i always thought it was rather cute. he's very self concious of it and refuses to wear sandals in case anyone notices. :\

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please, kinganthony, feel free to share more of your experiences with it! you're part of the story now. suckah!!! (hehe... you know me, imagine me laughing and saying that in jest. cuz you know how i like to try to keep things light! :D

kersley

15th May 2011, 18:11

@persephonwillow
is it possible to post a photo of your eyes? Just the eyes not the whole face. also could you please answer my questions?
Thanks

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 18:23

Why Reptilian? Can you be sure that the being inside of you is a reptile? What special gift to you have? are you able to manipulate peoples mind and thoughts?
Thanks

i'm not sure it's reptilian :) other people have always described it as reptilian-like. i've heard that my pupils look like slits. that my eyes look "snake like". kinganthony has gone into the most detail for me of all people who've mentioned it. the feeling i get from everyone else is that they are uncomfortable discussing it and therefore do not want to go into detail about what they've seen. i've never seen it myself. i don't know if this has anything to do with it, but i have always been afraid to look in mirrors in the dark. once when i was very small i looked and the face i saw looking back was not me. but i was very young, i don't remember the details of it anymore, i just remember seeing something that made me uncomfortable and i haven't looked in a mirror in the dark since.

i don't think i have any special gifts. my friends do think i can read people well, i do get vibes and feelings and gut reactions to people that other people seem to miss, or ignore if they get them. i have been right about every "read" i've had so far. for example, my best friend started dating a new man. everyone loved him. he was very kind, he went out of his way to help people, he was really sociable. but i felt that there was something off about him. that she needed to stop dating him asap and move on because something bad was going to happen to her because of him. and it did. a few months into the relationship he got cancer. and asked her for money. and her family for money. and they bought him a car to get to his medical appointments. during all this i just KNEW that he was lying. her family stopped talking to me for a while because they thought i was being very callous saying he was lying to get money from them. in the end the truth came out and i was right.

that's just a small example, and maybe one that means nothing. maybe a lot of people are able to read other people. i don't know if it's normal or not. i get "reads" (i really don't know what to call it) on everyone i meet. well, almost... there is one person i get absolutely nothing from. he's the only one.

i don't think i can manipulate people. i have never conciously tried.

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 18:54

thank you John :D

yeah... the whole demon thing makes it all sound very negative. and kind of shameful. i grew up with people who saw people who were possessed as people who had done something bad/wrong/evil in order to invite the demon in. hence the reason my parents didn't advertise my "possession". i guess that's why i haven't felt comfortable talking about it. when i was a child i used to think what could i have possibly done that would be so bad as to invite a demon to live in me? i never did anything that bad! i got good grades, i listened to my parents (until i was a teenager anyway, and by then i was thoroughly possessed so what did i have to lose?? lol). i used to think i must just be a bad person in my core in order for such a bad spirit to live in me. now that i'm older (we won't talk about how much older ;) i look back and feel sad for my younger self because i know better now :)

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 19:10

@kersley: i don't mind showing my face. that's me in my profile pic :)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/zehava/me/n637625148_1336108_9482.jpg

eeeeeyyyyyeeeessss wide open: ;)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/zehava/me/april7-1.jpg

a professional photo:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/zehava/me/10632_180855150148_637625148_4215985_5413291_n-2.jpg

thunder24

15th May 2011, 19:33

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 19:49

I got webbed feet also. Tell your brother not to sweat it, we can swim faster.
peace

do you have dreams of aliens, reptilians or the like?

lol. that's awesome. i'll pass on that tidbit next time we talk about his toes. :)

i do dream about "aliens". i say aliens because i don't know what other word to use to describe them. the dreams aren't about aliens that are in popular culture, like the greys. and i don't see reptiles in my dreams either. i see other beings. they don't take a solid form that i can describe in terms we use. it's more of a knowing than a seeing. i could't possibly draw a picture of what i see in my dreams, but if i could connect with you on a psychic level somehow i could let you "see" them. does that make sense?

i have the most vivid dreams. every night. sometimes they are so incredibly vivid i honestly get them mixed up with what has happened in my concious state. they are less like dreams and more like living a different life in my sleep.

that said, they aren't always about different beings/aliens. i have vivid dreams about "regular" things too. i remember the ones about regular things more easily than i remember the ones about other beings. if i wake up from an other being dream and don't make a concious effort to keep it in my head i probably won't remember it. but the regular dreams usually stick around even if i don't think about remembering them.

*shrug*. i'm not sure what to make of that either. maybe i just have an awesome over active imagination! :)

Omni

15th May 2011, 19:57

Hello persphonewillow :) Welcome to Avalon. :)

Thank you for your openness and honesty. I am intrigued. But part of me wants to say, I doubt you are really a "shapeshifting reptilian". I think if shapeshifting reptilians exist, they know what is taking place, and it is an act of deception. If you were a "shapeshifting reptilian" part of me thinks that you would be reptilian first, and not looking human when you were born. That shapeshifting would be from your true form, TO an illusory form. I think the title of the thread is perhaps misleading in this regard. I think it would be more accurate to call you a shapeshifting human if this claim is true and not some sort of technological foul play, or hallucination(which I doubt it is a hallucination).

There is a lot possible here. For example I have had experiences with advanced technology altering what my eyes see. No, not hallucinations. Deliberate altering of what my eyes see, by controlling the feed from my eyes to my brain or controlling the appearance of this hologram(universe). Although, the amount of people seeing something in your eyes strongly speaks against that. Perhaps what is happening to you, is the same type of 'variables' shapeshifting reptilians use. I still don't feel I'm speaking to a shapeshifting reptilian in this thread...

I'm curious, sorry if you have said it, how many people have actually seen slits in your eyes? Seeing a demon in someone's eyes is very different than seeing actual slits. Whatever is happening here I feel it's an interesting phenomenon.

What did you see in the mirror when you saw something that was 'not you'? Was it a reptilian? Can you please explain what it looked like?

Have you noticed a very strong distinct shift in energy in your consciousness when this happens? Sorry if this has been answered. My memory of what I read in this thread just prior to writing this has been tampered with...

I'm curious what you detect in terms of consciousness while this happens. I mean some sort of energy you can detect in yourself. I remember you speaking of feeling conscious of your eyes. But can you go further in depth on how you feel while this is happening?

Thanks for sharing :)
-Omni

Sierra

15th May 2011, 20:10

Hi Persephonewillow :)

Welcome to Avalon! I am so glad you are here! I hope this will be a wonderful place for you to explore and maybe get some answers. We have lots of people here looking for answers lol :)

Its so interesting you could see another face in the mirror when in the dark ... I'm so sorry it scared you. Once I semi astralled out of my body only I was still stuck in the stomach area, looked like a bug on its back with four arms and four legs waving madly in panic lol and I NEVER tried again! Now I am frustrated with myself that I don't seem to be able to do it at all. Fear rules. Argh.

Anthony, I'm so glad you found PersephoneWillow again! I want to say a certain word but your left brain will whack me over the head if I do lol ...

Sierra

P.S. They say the eyes are the windows of the soul, and you have beautiful eyes PersephoneWillow ...

phillipbbg

15th May 2011, 20:14

Hello persephoniewillow and welcome to Avalon! Try when you feel that you are aware of your eyes looking about you, to remember or record what you are looking at and the situation, it may provide you with some understanding of what is being sought if another life force is working through you. Only you can decide whether to assist this process or not, in a way in my eyes you are a sort of ambassador for both entities. You may be in an enviable position to be able to help us all. So in my eyes you would never be a circus act.
Live long and be proud.

king anthony

15th May 2011, 20:33

please, kinganthony, feel free to share more of your experiences with it! you're part of the story now. suckah!!! (hehe... you know me, imagine me laughing and saying that in jest. cuz you know how i like to try to keep things light!

I will add; as stated in my introduction (to this thread) right above the second photo, numerous others posts (related to the topic), my manuscript/book and so forth - what people are witnessing is not "shapeshifting" but rather a "projection". These species have the ability to project themselves as a form of surveillance, as well they have the ability to cloud perception (as a form of defense). How this species does this is unknown to me.

In keeping with the theme of this topic and eyes; here is a video I came across by chance today. If anyone can translate French to English it would be appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALtiORQ0KlY

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 20:56

@kinganthony. "des yeux de feline" loosely translated is "eyes of a cat". it is a condition called Coloboma (http://www.science20.com/science_motherhood/coloboma_humans_cat_eyes). my lawyer has it. it's constant. it doesn't come and go as you see whatever you see in my eyes does :)

king anthony

15th May 2011, 21:04

"des yeux de feline" loosely translated is "eyes of a cat". it is a condition called Coloboma (http://www.science20.com/science_motherhood/coloboma_humans_cat_eyes).

Thanks for the translation (you speak French? lol); I am interested in the conversation of the interview as well (subtle hint). I posted it noting the condition is not the same as your events - more for interest as it fits the topic of discussion.

persephonewillow

15th May 2011, 21:35

Thanks for the translation (you speak French? lol); I am interested in the conversation of the interview as well (subtle hint). I posted it noting the condition is not the same as your events - more for interest as it fits the topic of discussion.

a weee little bit. the result of french lessons with the kids.

kersley

15th May 2011, 21:41

Noble Hops

15th May 2011, 22:52

Welcome, persephonewillow! Out of curiosity, what is your family's ethnic background? If you'd rather not get into that, no worries.

sllim11

16th May 2011, 00:29

hi persephonewillow. i just want to make clear when i said entity i did not mean demon. the two are quite dfferent.

also, beautiful eyes!!

Tangri

16th May 2011, 00:51

Hi Persephonewillow,
It is your chance to grown up in your environment. If you grown up at my environment. you would not be spotted.
If you are looking some one's eyes, there are 2 consequences event at that act 1-A fight is going to start or
2- a very emotional kiss coming through.
With that reason most of those people who has same future are safe.
Love and Peace

Seikou-Kishi

16th May 2011, 01:12

You are absolutely gorgeous. I would hate to see the rest of your face, I would just fall in love.:cool:
Thanks.

Hey, Cheesemeister, persephonewillow's full face is right underneath her name :P

thunder24

16th May 2011, 01:26

i do dream about "aliens". i say aliens because i don't know what other word to use to describe them. the dreams aren't about aliens that are in popular culture, like the greys. and i don't see reptiles in my dreams either. i see other beings. they don't take a solid form that i can describe in terms we use. it's more of a knowing than a seeing. i could't possibly draw a picture of what i see in my dreams, but if i could connect with you on a psychic level somehow i could let you "see" them. does that make sense?

i have the most vivid dreams. every night. sometimes they are so incredibly vivid i honestly get them mixed up with what has happened in my concious state. they are less like dreams and more like living a different life in my sleep.

that said, they aren't always about different beings/aliens. i have vivid dreams about "regular" things too. i remember the ones about regular things more easily than i remember the ones about other beings. if i wake up from an other being dream and don't make a concious effort to keep it in my head i probably won't remember it. but the regular dreams usually stick around even if i don't think about remembering them.

*shrug*. i'm not sure what to make of that either. maybe i just have an awesome over active imagination! :)

If you try to send the images to me via psychic transfer, then I can try and download the picture you hold of them. Do you get a "good"/"bad" vibration from them in your dreams? Can you give us any interaction you have with them?

and welcome to Avalon, should have said that in my first post
peace

Carmody

16th May 2011, 01:47

Among my family members: webbed fingers, extra abdominal muscles, born with only one set of adult teeth, and some other anomalous aspects. Everyone psychic to some degree. Just saw a cousin the other day. Her eyes just blew me away. I had forgotten. Her iris on her eyes: Light Emerald green, fading to calico brown-green toward the center, and black rim. I thought she just had to be wearing contacts...but no. We are: Russian-Polish Ashkenazi Jew, German-Danish, English (thus Irish to some degree) French-Scottish, and a sprinkle of Native American on top. My eye color is similar.

Your eyes are very mixed in that eastern euro kind of way, IMO.

truthseekerdan

16th May 2011, 01:53

among my family members: webbed fingers, extra abdominal muscles, born with only one set of adult teeth, and some other anomalous aspects. Everyone psychic to some degree. Just saw a cousin the other day. Her eyes just blew me away. I had forgotten. Her iris on her eyes: Light Emerald green, fading to calico brown-green toward the center, and black rim. I thought she just had to be wearing contacts...but no.

Me too, I got webbed toes. Does that qualifies me as an alien?

Really, what am I? :)

persephonewillow

16th May 2011, 02:11

Welcome, persephonewillow! Out of curiosity, what is your family's ethnic background? If you'd rather not get into that, no worries.

i don't know much about my mum's side of the family other than that they are dutch. they are all light-haired, light-eyed and pale complexions... pretty typical dutch features. my dad's side is more mixed. they come from Holland but there is definitely jewish blood in there. they are all dark haired, most of them have green eyes and they have darker complexions. not too many people automatically see that i'm related to my mum, but nobody ever mistakes any of my dad's side (my aunts, uncles, etc) as being relatives of mine. lol

Seikou-Kishi

16th May 2011, 02:15

"English thus Irish to some degree"?

I don't follow.

Noble Hops

16th May 2011, 03:13

Carmody

16th May 2011, 03:19

"English thus Irish to some degree"?

I don't follow.

The Irish and the English liked to differentiate themselves, back in the day. Genetic testing has shown that the English have notable Irish genetic content.

in a similar way. ..genetic testing has shown that the Palestinians have more Judaic blood in their bodies than the people pushing them off their land.

As for eye color, we have what I'd tend to call a 'Hollywood' eye color.

This eye color is very euro-jewish, and the strong Jewish blood usually prevails in the eye color, in a least a few members of the family. From that...and shifting into bluer tones of the same.

Go take a look at the 'power people' images.

Specifically look for eye color. This is the combination you will find. The real power tends to be caught up in this exact (or very similar) combination. This is not a thorough and exhaustive look on my part, thus it is a hypothesis, a project in the works.. ...but.... I keep seeing that eye color...

And some of you thought Charles was joking with his request....... to me it WAS specifically about eye color.

http://topnews.in/law/files/Nicolas-Sarkozy11.jpg

http://www.personal.psu.edu/smf5251/images/owner1.jpg

and so on.

Kerrigan

16th May 2011, 12:13

Thank you to both of you for sharing this experience.

You were talking about about vivid dreams, would you mind telling us the most particular ones?

King Anthony, I translated the video about cat woman ;)

"How to fit in with a particular physic?"
caption - What a story: 3 years of stories

Host -Could we have a zoom in on her eyes?
Host -No contact lenses right?
Guest -Not at all
Host -Better having eyes cat then frogs eyes right?
Guest -yes
Host -But you suffered for it when you were young?
Guest -yes, a lot. A lot of mockery, from guys. It was a game for them to mock me, at school.
Host -What game?
Guest -The game was "Who will get cat girl in bed and let her down. That was the game.
Host -That's bad taste humor.
Guest -A guy would give me cans of cat food when leaving school
Host -What's his name?
Guest - Karim
Host -That Karim must regret, seeing the wonderful lady you've become.
-What gave yourself confidence to make this difference a empowering tool
-What a look, really a cat like, incredible. There's worst! Wow!
-Do you wear make up?
Guest -yes
Host-This is not the work of our staff
Guest -No I did it before coming here, I play with make up, I use alot of colors, but before my eyes were a big complex and I used to hide them and try to avoid the look of others
Host -How would you do that, with glasses?
Guest -Not at all, I just.. didnt have friends.
Host -I don't understand that, cat eyes prevents from having friends...
Guest -If someone spoke to me, it was over for him
Host -It was over because...
Guest -Well because he spoke to me.
Host - You were the scapegoat
Guest -yes
Host -at what moment did you gain confidence in youself?
-I think now, your eyes a pleasant to see for all
-isnt that beautiful?
Guest -Now that I see them on big screen its impressive
-sometimes its still hard, in the publics eye, at the grocery store lets say, the cashier would gather all the other employes just to watch my eyes
-sometimes people in the streets stare at me
Host -What do you say to all those people now?
Guest -Its the past now, thanks to my carrier, I work in the restauration buisness
Host -When people speak about it now...
Guest -I take it as a compliment now, I have more confidence in myslef, thanks to my fiancé that i met one year ago, he help my alot.
Host -He help you gain confidence
Guest -Absolutly
Host -He did not spoke about your difference?
Guest -He noticed it after one week of knowing me!

I wish they would of talked more about when the eyes appeared, was she born with them, what about her parents, do they have the same eyes etc. King Anthony do you know it there is a longer version of this video?

king anthony

16th May 2011, 12:57

I wish they would of talked more about when the eyes appeared, was she born with them, what about her parents, do they have the same eyes etc. King Anthony do you know it there is a longer version of this video?

Thank you for translating the interview: I came across the video purely by chance the day I posted it - I do not know much more about it - sorry.

kersley

16th May 2011, 14:32

Hey. I think you'll find that the profile picture was added after !!! it wasn't there when i requested to see the pic's of her eyes.
So if you don't mind. I'll like to go back a page and have another look at those gorgeous eyes :p

Dorok

16th May 2011, 15:02

persephonewillow, welcome and thank you for sharing!

I hope you'll find the following story interesting as I had an experience just once in my life of meeting a woman and having a similar reaction to kinganthony's.

It was a holiday, and I was going out to a pub with a group of friends. At the door, I was the last to enter, and so I held the door open for a woman following us. She thanked me as she passed and handed me a cookie from inside her coat. When her eyes hit mine there was a jolt. I thought it was just because of the cookie surprise and the fact that she was attractive.

I had a few drinks with my friends, but I couldn't get this woman out of my thoughts. I kept seeing her in the crowded pub, and I would notice that she was watching me too. we ended up sharing a couple drinks and some conversation before we went our separate ways. In the following days, I still found thoughts of her distracting me to near obsession. She had told me the name of the restaurant where she worked, and a few evenings later, I drove 45 min out of my way to stop in to see her again.

When her shift ended, we sat in her car talking. It was somewhat awkward as we both felt this strange connection, but we really had no idea why. Then, out of nowhere as I was looking at her face it blurred. Her whole face started changing features! It was very quick, and I think the shock of it made my brain quit perceiving it. Her face seemed to be changing into the face of another woman, and along with it came a powerful sense of recollection as if I was seeing who she might have been in another lifetime maybe. I really have no explanation of it, as it's never happened other than this time, and it was so fast.

I have to think that it wasn't her that was actually changing but my perception of her. I very rarely have any flashes of insights or any psychic behavior, but I do often feel strong connections with people I just meet. Coincidentally, you resemble her!

Based on this, I'd just like to offer my opinion that when people see you change that what they see is their projection on you. I would imagine that your presence creates a charge within people and their response to that colors their perception of what they see in you. If they see demons or possession, then maybe they have a fear of this phenomena and that's the only way their thoughts can interpret it. I wonder if anyone's initial perception of seeing changes to your appearance changes over time and getting to know you?

I hope you can take some comfort in this. Welcome again!

king anthony

16th May 2011, 15:14

I made the following "comment" in PA chat (this morning) and I will share it here as well; what I (and others) have witnessed with the "shapeshifting"/projection involving persephonewillow would not be difficult to capture on video.

This was one of persephonewillow's and my thoughts for the "interview" I wanted to do; under the right conditions and the willingness of persephonewillow and "the reptilian(s)" - it can be done.

There is a reason "it" has made itself known through her and "it" has something to say; maybe just to the ones "it" selects or maybe not - I do not know. I do know one thing, "it" and I have something to "say" to each other. We were planning on doing this for ourselves before, each having our own reasons. However, now that this has been made "public" (in a private forum), the possible issue then becomes - who would believe an amateur video (or audio) by us alone.

Where this thought appears to be leading was not planned by me (or persephonewillow) when I created this thread; persephonewillow does not know I am posting these words. As I stated above, I bring this up now because of a conversation in PA chat this morning - thus I began to think about it. Personally, I care not if anyone believes my personal experiences, which includes the topic of this post - I know (as does persephonewillow) the truth of this post is real.

persephonewillow

16th May 2011, 16:59

@Dorok. thank you for sharing your experience :) that's very interesting!

i do find that many people say they feel something with me... a connection, that there is something different about me, they feel like they've known me forever or in a past life, "there's just something about your eyes!" (i get that one a LOT! lol). i had never really conciously thought about this and realized how often it happens until reading your post. and for some unknown reason people seem to automatically trust me with very private information. i know things about people that could get a few of them into some serious trouble. or turn them into social misfits. i don't know why people are so open with me! most of the time they don't know me well enough to know that i won't go spreading their secrets! why do they just turn into open books around me?? :)

Carmody

16th May 2011, 17:03

In your astrological chart will be some very powerful alignments.

It always shows up.

One of mine is, in a very tight orb (for the most part-orb means distance apart) Pluto conjunct mercury conjunct Sun conjunct Uranus.

Overpowering eyes can be Pluto conjunct mars (in Scorpio and in the 8th house--or the like). Then possibly some other strengthening feature. Someone like 'Rasputin' would be expected to have a similar alignment show up in their astrological chart. the ability to hypnotize or capture, via the eyes and eye contact. Meaning 'the door is open.' (to the netherworld, Pluto -the ruler of Hades)

Not specifically evil at all, just a member of the pantheon of the gods and thus the expression of energies. Pluto rules the hindbrain (the reptilian core hindbrain) and thus if a conscious connection exists via the vibration given at birth, that forms the given self, one can find the capacity within to express connected energetics --as expression in this world.

According to Sitchin(?)(Or did I get that elsewhere?) the Judaic bloodlines were the favored bloodlines of the reptilian Enki, and he included more of his blood in that group than the others. Also note that Hebrew is one of very few languages that when uttered as a sound or vibration..if sand or similar is excited it creates the symbol of the word/letter..in the vibrating sand. (in enough cases to be a bizarre but true happenstance. Fact. Ouch!)

Ego, the individuation, the SUN, is at the center of the energetic envelope.

At the outer edge..as we move into the outer regions and all the energies that lie beyond and in the human comparative and expression of what this solar system (as what a complex multidimensional expression -is)..we encounter Pluto...the doorway to that world, dimension, universe, or expression.

So, when you connect Pluto, with Mars (physical expression) this can be in the eyes, due to this and some other factors. if it is strong enough and the vibration is there (due to the person and their expression character and strength)..and the person doing the viewing is sensitive enough, then it may be possible for these people to see it...differently.

I've seen/had enough daylight waking visions to understand the phenomenon.

Is this making more sense now?

persephonewillow

16th May 2011, 17:17

please, if i've missed replying to you let me know :) i'm on and off my laptop all day and i want to make sure i answer all of your replies/questions. but honestly, because of my surfing habits and life getting in the way ;), sometimes i read and don't have the time to reply. and when i come back i forget i haven't replied. okay... i'm a little scatterbrained! lol. so if i've missed you please let me know :D

persephonewillow

16th May 2011, 17:36

@Carmody. that is fascinating! and weirdly enough, i had my astrological chart done years ago as payment for some art (i'm a fan of the trade system when i don't need the money for things society has made almost impossible to avoid, like paying bills!). i'm going to pull it out and re-read it. :)

and i guess i do have to thank my dad's side of the family for the jewish blood... and therefore the reptilian anomoly. my real first name is a Hebrew word (Zehava), so the stuff about hebrew being one of the few languages that can manipulate sand to show the symbol of the word has piqued my interest!

persephonewillow

16th May 2011, 17:40

Sierra

16th May 2011, 17:46

Lettherebelight

16th May 2011, 18:16

In your astrological chart will be some very powerful alignments.

It always shows up.

One of mine is, in a very tight orb (for the most part-orb means distance apart) Pluto conjunct mercury conjunct Sun conjunct Uranus.

Overpowering eyes can be Pluto conjunct mars (in Scorpio and in the 8th house--or the like). Then possibly some other strengthening feature. Someone like 'Rasputin' would be expected to have a similar alignment show up in their astrological chart. the ability to hypnotize or capture, via the eyes and eye contact. Meaning 'the door is open.' (to the netherworld, Pluto -the ruler of Hades)

Not specifically evil at all, just a member of the pantheon of the gods and thus the expression of energies. Pluto rules the hindbrain (the reptilian core hindbrain) and thus if a conscious connection exists via the vibration given at birth, that forms the given self, one can find the capacity within to express connected energetics --as expression in this world.

According to Sitchin(?)(Or did I get that elsewhere?) the Judaic bloodlines were the favored bloodlines of the reptilian Enki, and he included more of his blood in that group than the others. Also note that Hebrew is one of very few languages that when uttered as a sound or vibration..if sand or similar is excited it creates the symbol of the word/letter..in the vibrating sand. (in enough cases to be a bizarre but true happenstance. Fact. Ouch!)

Ego, the individuation, the SUN, is at the center of the energetic envelope.

At the outer edge..as we move into the outer regions and all the energies that lie beyond and in the human comparative and expression of what this solar system (as what a complex multidimensional expression -is)..we encounter Pluto...the doorway to that world, dimension, universe, or expression.

I think Carmody is spot on, Persephonewillow.

It could be an indication in your chart, and as Carmody says, not necessarily evil energy, but more unseen, 8th house type energy, which can appear darker to others, perhaps occult leanings, strong ego, serpent power/energy... None of this is necessarily negative....just different! and that's a good thing :)

I practice sidereal astrology (Jyoti Shastra). Some also refer to it as Indian astrology...part of the Vedas. It is very moon-based, and also states that everyone's moon sign falls under the influence of a particular nakshatra, one of twenty seven stars. Each of these stars have their individual influences, and they are all extremely intriguing in their own way.

All twenty seven stars all fall into one of three categories...Deva, Manushya, and Rakshasa. Each of these three types have certain characteristics.

From the sound of your story, it could well be that your nakshatra is a Rakshasa star, which would explain a lot of your unusual and powerful experiences.

Thanks for sharing all of this, btw, it is extremey interesting :nod:

Flash

16th May 2011, 18:41

THe exact but exact same eyes colours as my beautiful daughter. You do have eastern Europe blood don't you - the eyes? The rest of your face feels French.

Edited: sorry for this post, I had written it before reading your answers about your background

Flash

16th May 2011, 18:58

Darla Ken Pearce

16th May 2011, 19:16

Care to meet one? Don't mind if I do it's an honor. King Anthony, thank you for introducing this most wonderful person to Avalon! I am honored to meet you, sweetie.

The Grey's who contracted with the U.S. Government have writ large over our concept of reptiles and given this other manifestation of life a black eye even though some form of reptiles like them can be found on most of the planets, galaxies and universes throughout all of creation

It's one of the basic forms in our evolutionary process and this means they are an integral part of us.

According to the latest updates from Celestials, this particular group of Greys has recently been booted off planet while Earth ascends and there is a protective shield, net, and screen now in place, so that no others (however they manifest) none with harmful intent can pass through during these crucial days.

You may be surprised to learn that many who represent other universes, worlds, and galaxies are here to witness Earth's ascension ~ it's the greatest show at present. If you get the feeling you're being watched, it's because you are...there are no hiding places left, all is known and being watched closely in the most benevolent and encouraging manner. We've got a mammoth Celestial cheering section.

Again, many other civilizations in all universes have Reptile forms of manifestation among millions of others. If you look at the new pictures available of a human child developing in a mother's womb, you will witness for yourself that a reptile presentation is part of every human's development process. So, who dare point fingers at ourselves? Well, it might not be wise ; )

It is only a small step to make a quantum leap into all the possibilities this opens to our imagination and realization.

Except for the Grey's who had no evil intent but a quest for their own survival that got out of hand, there are many living beings with every assortment of components that are far beyond anything we are capable of imagining or realizing at this point in time. We are limited by old belief systems. As our consciousness rises, we will be able to "see" much that has been veiled over our senses & perceptions.

Let me say this: People who "see" something evil in you ~ are seeing themselves in the mirror of your eyes.

As a 3D construct ~ evil can only exist if we create it ourselves. Thank goodness we have grown out of this stage, it felt like forever in 3D. Now onto 5D ; )

Sheldan Nigel on his PAO website has an index with a list of information about various beings who live in on other stars, galaxies, and universes that surround us. He describes some of their abilities and traits for instance hair color, height, abilities like shape shifting and so forth. Very interesting and valuable to all of us who have the desire to remember more about our own origins and places we might want to visit next.

There is no life form on Earth, dolphins and whales, for instance, that doesn't have another origin besides this Earth plane. In the days of Atlantis, it is said that dolphins walked on two legs among us. Ask to remember.

Further, the last battle was between two opposing forces, the most beautiful manifestation were those following and perhaps made in the image of Poseidon. Now, we've all seen images of Posidon and he is a Greek God, King of the Oceans, and has a tail not too far off from what could be considered reptilian. His side of Atlantis were not the ones, who blew things up, and caused the destruction of this fabulous world of ours.

It is most helpful to check over ~Sheldan's list~ to see how many other stars, galaxies, and planets include some form of reptilian features in their many variations. Once you do this, that bad rap from the Grey's just disintegrates before your eyes and it calls for a higher perception and intuition to guide us.

We happen to have this capability inside ourselves ~ we each came to Earth for this great experiment with at least six Angels and Guides. Although you cannot see them with 3D eyes, they are there and a wonderful part of your being in spirit form.

We have the ability to call upon these Angels and Guides and also our higher power, at any time, for assistance. The easiest way to do this is through a simple request and "asking" such as this one to say out loud: "I ask that my axiatonal lines be reconnected." These are, indeed, magic words that enable us to receive guidance just for the asking. Since we are living on a "Free Will" planet this asking is necessary because they have not been allowed to help us without our asking them to do so. They need our permission and that's what's been lacking.

Once we bring this knowing that we've never been alone; never been separated from Source, never been without those who love and adore us ~ who stand at our side (even at this present moment) and who have been with us since prior to our births ~ no matter how many lives we've lived on Earth ~ it opens up and enlarges our Heart Centers, bodies, spirits, minds, and souls to all the possibilities that exist in the entire universe. They are ours now and we can allow, and be open to a whole new world without limitations.

And this is a very life changing event that can sustain us ~ no matter what lies ahead. We are also infinite creations of a most loving creator about to step into our own talents, gifts, and abilities to become co-creators of something so wonderful, it was worth all the hardship, suffering, feelings of loss, feelings of separation, feelings of inadequacy.

We can allow a new feeling to take the place of these old negatives ones that have literally haunted us for centuries and it's that we have nothing to prove to anyone. Nothing to achieve that isn't already a part of us, and nothing to be ashamed of that might cause us pain. We can feel empowered for the first time and breathe again. Let's have a group hug and embrace about now.

I run around all the boards on the world wide web and beyond ~ literally shouting this news and yes, people think I'm crazy. So what?

What will surprise you even more is the realization and it will come to you, one day, that we are all living in mulit-dimensions without realizing it.

And I will end on this note. Much love and once again, Welcome! xoxoxox

oceanz

17th May 2011, 01:28

thanks oceanz. :)
weird that you mention the webbed toes. my brother has webbed toes. just one web between two of his smaller toes. the rest of them are normal. i always thought it was rather cute. he's very self concious of it and refuses to wear sandals in case anyone notices. :\[COLOR="red"]

I got webbed feet also. Tell your brother not to sweat it, we can swim faster.

Originally Posted by Carmody
among my family members: webbed fingers, extra abdominal muscles, born with only one set of adult teeth, and some other anomalous aspects. Everyone psychic to some degree.

Originally Posted by truthseekerdan
Me too, I got webbed toes. Does that qualifies me as an alien?
Really, what am I?

Me too. The thought has just occured to me that my younger sibling was born with flat feet so 'apostosis' did not occur to produce an arch in the foot.

Thunder24 and Truthseekerdan - if you have siblings, is there anything unusual with them?

Maybe persephonewillow, as your brother has webbed toes ("tiger toes") one of your parents must carry a defective gene if you like and it has manifested itself in you with your eyes.

I was going to suggest Coloboma but you have said it is not constant so that rules that out.

With the warmth of your words etc and looking at your photo the image that came initially to me was "Cleopatra" and then that of felines/cats. They evolved from reptiles and humans and cats share similar genes (thread in PA recently which briefly mentions this). I however have found this:

Researchers, acting as "genetic paleontologists," recently discovered that the X and Y chromosomes of cats and humans are remarkably alike, despite the fact that the two species haven't shared a common ancestor for about 90 million years.
Genes on X chromosomes of cats and people are lined up in the same way. This long-term chromosome stability is rare, showing no evidence of evolutionary rearrangements, says O'Brien. "It's like there was some master template that maintained the order of these genes on the X chromosome from the distant ancestors of these two mammalian orders."
About half of the current X chromosome is like a fossil, having remained the same through the evolution of all mammals.
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/04_00/cat_humans.shtml

So maybe you have some feline in you.

Cats have tails, vertical slits and can make a hissing sound so perhaps that is the reptalian in them that comes out. On another note, the purring they make from vibration which they generally make when they are shown love is heartwarming.

In Egyptian times, The cat goddess Bast (also known as Bastet) eventually replaced the cult of Mafdet, and Bast's image softened over time and she became the deity representing protection, fertility, and motherhood.

The cult of Bast was officially banned by imperial decree in 390AD. Egypt has since experienced a decline in the respect once held for cats; they are still kept as pets and tolerated elsewhere because they catch pests, the cat has not yet lost all religious significance in modern Egypt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_in_ancient_Egypt

thunder24

17th May 2011, 01:55

@ oceanz - i have no siblings i am aware of.

@persephone

Originally Posted by persephonewillow

i do dream about "aliens". i say aliens because i don't know what other word to use to describe them. the dreams aren't about aliens that are in popular culture, like the greys. and i don't see reptiles in my dreams either. i see other beings. they don't take a solid form that i can describe in terms we use. it's more of a knowing than a seeing. i could't possibly draw a picture of what i see in my dreams, but if i could connect with you on a psychic level somehow i could let you "see" them. does that make sense?

i have the most vivid dreams. every night. sometimes they are so incredibly vivid i honestly get them mixed up with what has happened in my concious state. they are less like dreams and more like living a different life in my sleep.

that said, they aren't always about different beings/aliens. i have vivid dreams about "regular" things too. i remember the ones about regular things more easily than i remember the ones about other beings. if i wake up from an other being dream and don't make a concious effort to keep it in my head i probably won't remember it. but the regular dreams usually stick around even if i don't think about remembering them.

*shrug*. i'm not sure what to make of that either. maybe i just have an awesome over active imagination! If you try to send the images to me via psychic transfer, then I can try and download the picture you hold of them. Do you get a "good"/"bad" vibration from them in your dreams? Can you give us any interaction you have with them?

and welcome to Avalon, should have said that in my first post
peace
i posted this before, but didn't see a response, so you said to let ya know. Not pushing, hope your likeing your stay here.

dan33

17th May 2011, 02:41

Another thread to be printed. Thanks King Anthony and persephonewillow.
I've to read it, but by default, my mind goes to these video from Lost Highway.
Best wishes to all. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/user/DA3N33?feature=mhee#p/u/6/s4OSPqq6vo8

persephonewillow

17th May 2011, 03:40

@thunder24. next time i have a vivid dream of the other beings i will most definitely try to send you the images. i get neither a good nor bad feeling from them. i do get the feeling that i am welcomed when they come into my dreams, the feeling that i am not fully one of them but i'm not lacking enough of them to be rejected. hope that makes sense.

sometimes the interactions are sexual in nature (erg... i'm not terribly happy sharing that). when that happens i distinctly feel they have entered into my space, my world. but it never feels like they are trespassing and shouldn't be there. it's almost like having someone you know well pop in. they don't "belong" to your space (live with you), but their unexpected visit is okay and having them in your space is okay.

other times i feel as if i'm watching them, sort of back from them, sort of hidden, but they know i'm there and continue on with what they are doing in a "it's okay if you see this" kind of way. when that happens i feel that i am in their space. their space feels unknown to me, a place i haven't been. but a place i get the feeling i should know with somehow. i often feel that they're waiting for me to remember. i feel slightly timid (even though i just know they know i'm there). i feel shy and part of me wants to explore around, part of me is unsure what to do next. those dreams seem quick. and i always feel like i'm semi-behind something... a bush-like object, a counter-like object... things that keep me physically apart from the beings, but able to see/hear them just fine.

Tangri

17th May 2011, 04:49

Flash

17th May 2011, 15:01

HypnoDoc

17th May 2011, 15:20

Hi Persephone!

IfIi might offer a few words of support: try hypnosis. As a clinical hypnotherapist I have considerable experience using hypnotic regression. I suggest that you find someone properly trained in this techique, particularly someone experienced in working with abdiction type cases. Go to Dolores Cannon's website and try to find a therapist trained by her, they will have the appropriate training to help you discover more about your situation. Be brave and most of all, have a sense of fun and wonder!

Carmody

17th May 2011, 16:04

From Flash:[/B]
Gosh Carmody you really scared me. here i am joking My beloved daughter's eyes like those of Bush or Sarkozy! I won't sleep anymore.:whoo:

A few clairvoyant predicted she would be world famous, hopefully it won't be through the same means!! This is it, not sleeping anymore!

From Levent Tonga

Hi Flash,
Do not look your daughter's eyes, look her heart You will see her future there and do not be worry go to sleep

Thank you Levent Tonga, she definitely is an astonishing heart, and her eyes are beautiful, a reflection of her heart. Similar in colors to sarkozy or bush (intentional - no capitals), but with lots of light into them. You are right, this is her heart that predicts her future. Thank you for caring, being so kind and mostly reminding me.

basically, each 'brain' is deeply connected to the eyes. genetic expression, etc.

Different people have different wiring. Different wiring due to their genetics, how well they were gestated and WHERE on the globe they were gestated or 'molded and cooled'. Of course, then the time of their birth as well, astrology.

This is akin to complex molecular level metallurgy, with regard to the organization of the synaptic connections. We start with a given level of design or framework and that is part of the genetics we are given at birth. then, the system is built from there. point being that in this 'game', any soul of any given level may be born into and 'build' the given brain or 'transceiver device' for... for dimensional communications. Micheal newton speaks on how the given soul and the given level works with the given brain to mold and shape it for the best level of communication and integration that it can. This strays right into the pain and pushing that the elites are supposedly committing upon their own children in order to get them to be able to communicate those energies through a given dimensional doorway, as best is possible--for their purposes and thinking.

Here is a take of mine on what a 'soul' is on a multi-dimensional level

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17686-Giant-Solar-Flare-Today-4-4-2011-VIDEO&p=190626&viewfull=1#post190626

Plasma is the norm in the universe, not 'solids'. To the tune of 95% or so. Ionization or polarization or charge differential is the norm, where as the idea of solids, physicality (the kinda opposite of gases that are 'charged') is not.

Everything happens at the ionization polarity differential level. Even within 'solids'.

We, as humans, are stuck at being or existing within 'solids' analysis.... as this is where we started, and literally stare out at the universe --- from. It is our base.

But it is not the normal state of the universe, to the tune of it being 20x more common to be the gaseous charge differential state.

This means that the idea of a 'knot' of dimensionally connected organized 'charge' may be the base aspect of 'intelligence' in this universe....which is exactly what Dolores Cannon and Micheal Newton, ghosts, Reps, transdimensional aliens, time travel, yellowbook, Stargates, all of it.... 'aether'...etc..are all telling us. Each and every day, in every way.

Which is why it is a war for your 'mind' ....as in reality, that is all there really is, and the rest (solids) is just a kind of illusion, regarding it's importance and/or hierarchy of and in 'life'.

As in: We are a complex organized knot of dimensionally connected (multiple dimensions) 'differences' which is us as an individual or 'being' and we have temporarily aligned ourselves with this mass of complex solids we call a body. According to Newton we, as a gaseous dimensional being... have manipulated and connected to the given individual solids thingies (bodies) when the body was young... and are now experiencing the looking out from this place as a form of life lessons..in order to grow as a complex gaseous dimensional knot of charge differential, ie, our so-called 'higher selves'.

Everything fits. Not one misstep in the data yet.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

now, the brain and eyes are deeply connected, both of them not finishing in their build parameters until after birth. Still forming. the brain remains elastic and mutable. emotional content can allow for the egress of chemicals into the body under stress or euphoria, and this allows for the tearing down of synaptic structure and the building of synaptic structure, respectively. (stress devolves your wiring, euphoria builds it - now that could be revealing as ideas go..., regarding the idea of a complex antenna system, is it not?)

If one considers the above, then they can see that the brain (And neural complex) is a complex 3D (XYZ axis) antenna and (funnel-mouth base, etc)... thus a communications device for dimensional energies. It allows energies of a specific shape and form, to go between the dimensions.

The US naval academy of research is on record showing this superconducting FTL aspects of the DNA AND neural characteristics of the human body or avatar.

The given eye color (due to the growth thing and the level and type of connectedness of the brain and eye) may be connected to the ability of that particular example (neural structure and design), base coding, base structure type of energetic expression to 'unfold' or 'connect' in this world, regarding manipulation of the dimensional doorway.

The post is a bit of a mouthful, but essentially, the idea of Enki favoring this type of antenna design for trans-dimensional communication of energies or expression into this realm, this may be shown in the eyes to some degree, as we can't visibly see the layout and design of the given mechanical brain.

This possibly smacks of elitism in some people's thinking (possibly), but I don't see it that way.

Most people with this eye color are likely to be great human beings, so It is merely a thought I'm expressing here. A complex one.. but in my mind, potential exists for it to be part of the answer we search for with regard to understanding how this multi-dimensional thing actually unfolds into this reality.

If one goes back to the thread on 'women being the key' in the Charles area, I speak on how those people who were born into the whole Judaic system of birthing and raising, they did, at specific times in the growth of the male child, they removed a part of the penis of the males.

This act, done at a very specific and ordained time in the child's life and thus the development of their minds on the mechanical mental level, has the capacity to affect the depth of their wiring and thus, in my hypothesis, their capacity to connect to dimensional realms.

So, Enki creates a vehicle that can really get rolling in dimensional energy translation and communication.

Then he throttles it back (whoa! those things are too damn good/potent!) by breaking the connection at the age of 8 days, through circumcision of the male.

It's just an idea, but it is an intriguing one to say the least.

Way back then, in that thread (about the key)..this is what I was specifically hinting at.

If one adds in some of the stuff in 'the question of lithium' thread, this may make more sense.

Steven

17th May 2011, 17:07

Sierra

17th May 2011, 20:13

A few clairvoyant predicted she would be world famous, hopefully it won't be through the same means!! This is it, not sleeping anymore!

Lol! Dearest Flash! You can sleep! I am not the LEAST surprised to hear what the clairvoyants say about your daughter. I'm madly in love with her myself ...

:edit:

Sorry, sorry! Back to thread! (But I love knowing what her eyes look like now) :)

persephonewillow

18th May 2011, 01:04

king anthony

18th May 2011, 01:15

Thanks Persephone and Anthony,

...I see a very strong feline aspect...

...when people have made mention of the anomaly in my eyes they've always said "snake-like" or reptile-like.

It was not feline, as there was (is) more then just the eyes (slits) that "changed" with persephonewillow - I can say, firsthand, it was reptilian.

Steven

18th May 2011, 13:53

...thank you Steven :) again... more blushing! lol. i suppose it could also be interpreted as feline... cats have pupils that are slits too after all. when people have made mention of the anomaly in my eyes they've always said "snake-like" or reptile-like. you're the first one to say feline :) personally, and don't tell the reptiles this *wink*, i like cats better. they're a little more cuddly than reptiles ;)-z

It's a mystery to me as well. Could it be a genetical traits that you carry in your lineage? A trait that shows up rarely. Do you have any information about familly member, even far related people in you lineage who has mysterious physical trait similar to yours? It must have something to do with your dna and your lineage.

Namaste, Steven

king anthony

18th May 2011, 14:42

Slightly off topic; interesting how the feline (cat) species has been brought up in this thread - obviously because of the "slit eyes"!? Unlike domesticated cats (felines), large cats (felines) do not have slit eyes.

Why is it that large cats do not have slit-type eyes like the domestic cats. (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/faq3.htm)

Eye of the Tiger: How Do Cat's Eyes Work? (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2354848/eye_of_the_tiger_how_do_cats_eyes_work.html?cat=53)

http://www.paranormalmagazine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/blackcat-300x300.jpg

Here is an excerpt from the thread "Cat People a.k.a. Feline People a.k.a. Lion People a.k.a. The Felines (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17675-Cat-People-a.k.a.-Feline-People-a.k.a.-Lion-People-a.k.a.-The-Felines)"

"From what I know, this species has some sort of royalty status in the "heavens", the Sphinx may have some connection to them, they have "kept their distance" from the human species - even though they have compassion for them, they are known to be a fierce warrior species and have battled the "reptilian" species."
Now back on topic.

Steven

18th May 2011, 14:47

Slightly off topic; interesting how the feline (cat) species has been brought up in this thread - obviously because of the "slit eyes"!? Unlike domesticated cats (felines), large cats (felines) do not have slit eyes.

Not at all. If I brought the feline aspect of Persephone, it is not because of her eyes, but from what I saw looking at her pictures. :)

Namaste, Steven

felixq78

18th May 2011, 15:28

Carmody

23rd May 2011, 04:50

Intraphase

23rd May 2011, 12:10

Hi Persephone & Welcome...

I think of this linear world as a clock.
If it happened here it has really happened somewhere else as a recorded time weight. The Reptilians have 250 beads of time space per 1 human bead of time space. They were here a really long time and would never bother to invade they would simply slip their light bodies into a reptile body go for a hunt, swim, take a nap and simply go away again undetected. If the world is viewed as a clock & is given three faces Info Realm-Quanta Realm-Time Realm then having access to huge pieces of info realm property used by reptiles could be advantageous for simply keeping ones mind free of endless conflicts.
The white light-info realm is made of many colors including every shade of
green. Green is essential to constructing and deconstructing light based creations.

:clock::high5::high5::high5::clock:
I think I was chatting up three of my little green friends here a while back.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=85816#post85816
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=86078#post86078
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=86821#post86821
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=87147#post87147
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=87891#post87891
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=88357#post88357
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9672-Can-We-Withdraw-Consent-from-the-Control-Paradigm&p=88497#post88497

Green Lines & Spheres as Time Space Access Points

Crocodile Shoes - Subject: Time Transcendence = Various ESP-info functions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWtzHkwX-cI&feature=related

Alligator Skys - Subject: Form Transcendence

Various Time Transport functions as Bilocality/Trilocality/Quadlocality functions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tY5RErnakc

DNA

23rd May 2011, 13:02

Thanks Persephone and Anthony,

We talk a lot about reptilians, but when I look at you, I see a very strong feline aspect. You do have an angelical smile, thats for sure. I do not see reptile at all, honestly. A feline, yes. That's my view for what its worth!

You are certainly mystical!

Namaste, Steven

thank you Steven :) again... more blushing! lol. i suppose it could also be interpreted as feline... cats have pupils that are slits too after all. when people have made mention of the anomaly in my eyes they've always said "snake-like" or reptile-like. you're the first one to say feline :) personally, and don't tell the reptiles this *wink*, i like cats better. they're a little more cuddly than reptiles ;)

-z

I don't know about shapeshifter,,,but,,,if you watch the Lacerta interview,,,,and listen to what Ingo Swann states in his book "Penetration",,,,aliens,,,or reptillians,,,they don't shape shift per se,,,,,instead,,,,they practice telepathy and project their desired impression into the minds of those around them.

king anthony

24th May 2011, 17:36

… Lacerta interview… listen to what Ingo Swann states in his book "Penetration

Any links, videos or other materials?

Billy

24th May 2011, 18:20

Hello persephonewillow, welcome and thank you for sharing your experiences, Firstly i would like to reassure you that there are many like you, you are not alone.

What many people do not understand is that every person on this planet has some reptilian genes within them, All in different levels, some not that much some much more than others. We as a human race are a melting pot of both positive and negative universal civilizations, Reptilian included. In fact a huge percentage of our make up is reptilian. so no need to be concerned there.

Although my eyes are hazel in colour, when i am uplited or excited my eyes turn a bright green and seem to shine brighter, and my friends notice, this happened a couple of days ago. In fact while serving my apprenticeship almost 40yrs ago my Boss who was a "mason" and had a huge drink problem he named me the" Reptile". He said he liked me but i scared him. ( I was 16yrs old ) I would get, goodmorning reptile, reptile do this do that, When he was really drunk i would smile at him he would throw a tantrum and shout " Dont f****in look at me like that, go away " he made me laugh. I asked why he kept calling me a reptile, he answered " because you are one " I never understood what he meant, but now i do.

So no demons in you, no temp possession. All very normal. Thank you for coming here and sharing

Strat

25th May 2011, 01:31

I want to preface my post. I don't believe anything that isn't freakishly apparent, such as a 20 pound weight weighs 20 pounds. I actively wrestle with this and it literally bothers me at times. I just want to know what's going on, I want to find out the one truth. It's not my intention to create arguments when I contradict the popular thought on this forum. I'm just very blunt and to the point, I don't mean to step on toes.

Personally, I'll tell you you're not the local circus freak. I have very few friends on this site. That's because I don't actively look for them. I only friend people that (in my opinion) display the highest degree of critical and open thought, level headedness, and honest, high quality investigation. One of these members is good ol King Anthony. So the fact that he introduced you, in my mind, is a lot of credence.

The first thing I'd like to say is I don't know that Reptilians exist. I'm not suggesting they do or don't. I investigate it because people I respect (and that are smarter than me) say they are real. When I look at this material I look at it with fresh eyes, without assuming anything.

That being said, KA says what he witnessed, not just your eyes, but the skin around them (correct me if I'm wrong KA) took on a reptile like appearance. You've (persephonewillow hereby referred to as PW) also said that you become aware of your eyes specifically at certain times.

1 Other than your parents suggesting you've been possessed, how was your childhood?
2 How long has this been going on?
3 Has the condition exacerbated?
4 Has anyone else noticed this?
5 Given what you said about being aware of your eyes, I have a nagging suspicion you know EXACTLY when this is happening. Am I right or wrong?
6 Have you experienced any physiological side effects during these episodes?

If I'm being too forward or getting too personal just say the word and I'll shut up. I'm probably one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Though when something like this happens, my brain shifts gears and as I said, I tend to drop social norms of getting to know people first. My bad!

And you don't have to answer any of these questions if they make you uncomfortable. Maybe pick and choose, or PM me ones that you don't want public, it's up to you, it's all good!

Description of "turn away"; its eyes looked away from me and persephonewillow's head seemed to follow, yet she kept talking - by now, I was not really listening to her. This went on for... a while. It seemed startled that I took note of it.

This is really saying something here. I'm going to PM you KA, and you too PW (if that's ok with you) with some hard-hitting questions.

PW, I'd also like to PM you about your vivid dreams. I would ask you here but I think it would derail the original intent of this thread because this is one of my biggest fascinations in the world. I have like a million questions. I think it is fair to ask in this thread, do you dream lucidly?

CorLian

25th May 2011, 04:57

Persenphonewillow, Welcome! I am relativley new here as well and people have been nice.

I have a story, I hope it helps you or others understand.

One summer I went with a few friends to Six Flags (a roller coaster/theme park), a good time was had by all. On the way home, a hour drive at night, everything was too bright. I made my friend drive and wore my sunglasses, whining about how my eyes felt funny and strange. My friend sugested that I had sunburned my eyeballs :rolleyes: this is when I heard the voice. In my head it said to ingore her and just look at things, that it meant no harm. I quietly freaked out, my friend was the type of person who claims to be cool with the paranormal yet freaks when it happens. My eyes felt abnormal, strange, to large and too small at the same time. I asked what was happening and they/it said to relax and that they were just looking and offered me information in exchage for use of my eyes. I asked it what it wanted, simply to look and see, that I was the best they had found. Personaly I was surprised, Six Flags is near Chicago, surely there were better canidates. No, it was more of the right place at the right time. Wrong place in my personal opinion. They laughed at our mode of transport, our mode of sustinance and offered me plans for a replicator. At this point I was done being laughed at and got upset, closed my eyes and told them to piss off. My eyes burned and watered, they wanted to see my world. When I started talking out loud, my friend figured out that something was up and susiquently freaked out. While driving in three lanes of 60 mile an hour traffic. I offered the entity a look at our Emergence Medical response times, they declined and I told them they could stay if they made things more comfortable and answered my questions. It hurt, it was to bright and was generaly uncomfortable, I was at all times aware that something else was looking out of my eyes. Then there was the insane converstation I was having in my head. I belive, personaly, that you would be very aware if something else was looking out of your eyes.

I hope you find answers, thank you for sharing your story.

Carmody

25th May 2011, 05:39

… Lacerta interview… listen to what Ingo Swann states in his book "Penetration

Any links, videos or other materials?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18023776/Penetration-The-Question-of-Extraterrestrial-and-Human-Telepathy-by-Ingo-Swann-text-format

ponda

25th May 2011, 05:40

Yes you can be logged into by 'other' beings at any time.I suspect that they can do this with or without you being aware of it.Sometimes your normal vision can be suddenly enhanced into a sort of high definition.Everything can be VERY clear and colors can be much brighter.Your hearing can be enhanced etc.It's happened to me a bit.You can just stare at a the most everyday mundane objects and really look into them.

Carmody

25th May 2011, 05:51

My spiritual 'job' appears to be one where I'm actually able do such things. Specifically when people die 'horribly' and this coloration of their death causes them to not be able to make it back to the light.

An instance where fully blown possession is, apparently... a good thing. Ie, I overlay them and calm their vibration so they can be calm and can go to the light. Horoscope wise, my energies are calculated by this site here (http://www.new-astrology.com/index.php), to be about 4300 or so. this is approximately 9x of that of the average person. The average being about 500 or so. That is... if I was to be an evil person/being AND totally clear minded at that connective level..is it that I could literally possess people? The indication is there.

how do I do it? It requires tremendous energetic access..and a balanced heart. In my horoscope, Venus, moon, and mars are exactly 2 degrees apart, with the moon in the center. All in Cancer - The symbol of the mother.

This , by the way, is the family job, genetically/avatar speaking--it is generally of that nature. My first conscious knowledge of this phenomena is a retelling of a soul help and release of a friend, by my mother, about 20 years back. This goes back to Charles comment on genetic tracking and genetic lines. The avatar I have in use is just a particularly potent combination. Apparently. :confused:

Carmody

25th May 2011, 08:02

Eg, one time I was feeling a bit close to the bird that usually perched outside my house. A crow. I told him that he and his brothers were welcome. A time later, about 500 crows were on my roof.

king anthony

25th May 2011, 13:26

I only friend people that (in my opinion) display the highest degree of critical and open thought, level headedness, and honest, high quality investigation. One of these members is good ol King Anthony. So the fact that he introduced you, in my mind, is a lot of credence.

...KA says what he witnessed, not just your eyes, but the skin around them (correct me if I'm wrong KA) took on a reptile like appearance.

I'm going to PM you KA, and you too PW (if that's ok with you) with some hard-hitting questions.

Thank you for your kind words and trust regarding me; what is always important, which I promote and you demonstrated in this post, is not to take the word of one person (example me) but to seek out truths for "yourself".

Regardless if one has encountered other species or not, "truths can be found on the journey for truth".

You are correct in your interpretation of the "skin around the eyes"; anytime I have witnessed projections (with persephonewillow or others) - it is more then just the eyes that change; the "eyeball" and surrounding features do as well. I have stated this repeatedly in various threads when people simply discuss the "slits" and challenge a video or photo.

Feel free to PM me, anytime. I do know more about persephonewillow; however, I will remain silent on these things (always) for it is not my place to make comment, I respect her "privacy" and wishes - for if/when she is ready, she may share other things which may give clarity to her "experiences".

I will say, discussions on this topic (here in PA) have been somewhat "overwhelming" for persephonewillow and I question if posting this thread was a good idea.

My eyes felt abnormal, strange, to large and too small at the same time. I asked what was happening and they/it said to relax and that they were just looking and offered me information in exchage for use of my eyes. I asked it what it wanted, simply to look and see, that I was the best they had found.

My eyes burned and watered, they wanted to see my world.

I belive, personaly, that you would be very aware if something else was looking out of your eyes.

Thank you for sharing your amazing story. It is fact that human hosts are selected for specific purposes. Some "hosts" can handle the extra mental burden of "them", some "hosts" are aware and some are not; some even "believe" it is something else for one reason or another. I cannot comment on other species; however, the reptilian species use their ability to project as a form of surveillance, which would include "study".

Yes you can be logged into by 'other' beings at any time. I suspect that they can do this with or without you being aware of it.

These other species (assuming this ability is not limited to the "reptilians") can project themselves into "hosts" at anytime (depending on the "host") without the knowledge of the "host"; meaning, permission is not needed by the "host" allowing this to occur - this goes against the accepted common thought that permission is needed.

Applying simple common logic to this fact would make sense of this; for example, it would be impossible for a "reptilian" to survey an area for safety, if the "host" (a potential threat) was aware of the "surveying" being done.

@ALL

These species, as well other human beings (or "hybrids") are not superior then the most (the masses of humanity); the said may have more experience/"some knowledge", tools/abilities and so forth - however, this does not imply they are better.

To put this into perspective:

One carpenter may have many tools while another has none. Does this mean the one with many tools is a better carpenter then the one with none!?

One warrior has a sword and shield while the other has a feather from a peacock and a piece of paper. I say, without a doubt, who would be the victor in combat!?

Unlike movies, which only show the highlights of a character's life; the reality is, there is everyday living of "those others" and human beings (hybrid and not) that reflect the "flaws" of each. These "flaws" would include dysfunctions, desires, confusion, joy and so forth.

Even to highlight a person with one "good idea" could impose the false sense of overall intelligence - when they may truly be an "idiot" [by definition (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idiot)]; the same can be said in a reverse scenario.

To better understand these events, such as "projections", is to know what the ancients knew; why human beings are, how were human beings "created" and "who is who" outside of the human population.

ponda

25th May 2011, 14:28

king anthony said:

These other species (assuming this ability is not limited to the "reptilians") can project themselves into "hosts" at anytime (depending on the "host") without the knowledge of the "host"; meaning, permission is not needed by the "host" allowing this to occur - this goes against the accepted common thought that permission is needed.

From my experience a lot of different entities can just log on when ever they feel like it.They can sit in the background quietly if they want.I can feel it sometimes immediately when 'some' of them connect but not all.You might say feel a coldness up the length of your back if some type of neg connects.It's almost like they are standing over you or just behind you.This doesn't happen very often to me but it has happened a few times.It's a lot better when the positives connect but they sort of stay in the background or out of the way most of the time.

My guess is that when some/most of these connections take place that they are monitored by higher entities so that some of these lower beings behave themselves.

They can make you feel good or bad,clear minded or confused,alert or tired,aware of something hidden or totally unaware of something obvious.They can have almost complete control of your senses if they are powerful enough or just be complete pests if they are the lower types.

king anthony said:

Applying simple common logic to this fact would make sense of this; for example, it would be impossible for a "reptilian" to survey an area for safety, if the "host" (a potential threat) was aware of the "surveying" being done.

Well it's probably impossible for the average human to know when these guys are around but you can sometimes get clues when they show up.In my experience the negs are around when vermin suddenly appear around me......cockroaches,dark black flies,black moths,mosquitoes,black centipedes,leeches etc and sometimes when the good guys are around you might get some beautiful birds or butterflies appear etc.

I don't have any ideas of any protocols for these visits or connections but they probably do exist to a degree i would imagine.

cheers

king anthony

25th May 2011, 19:01

You might say feel a coldness up the length of your back if some type of neg connects.It's almost like they are standing over you or just behind you.

It's a lot better when the positives connect but they sort of stay in the background or out of the way most of the time.

My guess is that when some/most of these connections take place that they are monitored by higher entities so that some of these lower beings behave themselves.

In my experience the negs are around when vermin suddenly appear around me......cockroaches,dark black flies,black moths,mosquitoes,black centipedes,leeches etc and sometimes when the good guys are around you might get some beautiful birds or butterflies appear etc.

Thank you for quoting me in (what is) persephonewillow's thread.

I say, there is no "bad/negative" or "good/positive" as all species are simply doing the same - surviving individually and as a whole.

As for "higher species" watching over, I have learned that most have need of comfort and I wish not to take away the comfort many have with this thought - thus, I remain silent.

I say, in my lifetime of experiences, insects or birds matters not, as they are their own doing what they do.

There is no mysticism of any kind with other species - it is lack of acceptance, human arrogance and something "forgotten" thus "new" that clouds the reality of what is.

ponda

26th May 2011, 00:11

king anthony said:

Thank you for quoting me in (what is) persephonewillow's thread.

I say, there is no "bad/negative" or "good/positive" as all species are simply doing the same - surviving individually and as a whole.

As for "higher species" watching over, I have learned that most have need of comfort and I wish not to take away the comfort many have with this thought - thus, I remain silent.

I say, in my lifetime of experiences, insects or birds matters not, as they are their own doing what they do.

There is no mysticism of any kind with other species - it is lack of acceptance, human arrogance and something "forgotten" thus "new" that clouds the reality of what is.

Fair enough:)

I was just relating some of my experiences as i perceive them at this stage of where ever it is i am at.

Other species can definitely be manipulated by higher forces.I have seen it with my own eyes.When it happens it sometimes doesn't happen in a natural manner but in a very obvious way.Insects can materialize out of thin air or disappear into thin air.I would assume other forces are involved in this.

Well the positive and negative probably both come from the same source but from some perspectives they are very different from each other.

I suspect that human arrogance can come from a lack of awareness of the bigger picture sometimes.

cheers

DNA

27th May 2011, 13:57

… Lacerta interview… listen to what Ingo Swann states in his book "Penetration

Any links, videos or other materials?

I started a thread about it after I started pondering on it. Reptillians/Aliens----------Don't Shape Shift (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21163-Reptillians-Aliens-Don-t-Shape-Shift)

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I'm guessing the current craze concerning shape shifting aliens started with David Icke, and continued with random supposed eye witnesses, like a security guard who claimed they worked at area-51 or Dulce and they witnessed such a transformation.

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I'm not trying to put a limitation on the powers of mother nature, nor the powers of genetic tinkering, but I don't think transformations such as this are what are taking place.

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Ingo Swann in his book PENETRATION (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/03PDF/Penetration_Ingo_Swann.pdf)<--(free PDF) stated that it was his experience through remote viewing (he invented it) and working with the black ops, shadow government, that it was his opinion that ET's possesed telepathy+. Note, that is the word telepathy with a plus next to it. Telepathy would enable you to read someone's mind while telepathy+ would enable you to project something into someone's mind.
There was an incident in this book when Ingo ran into "The most beautifull woman" at a grocery store, who he then realized "psychically" that she was an alien. The woman had a black ops guard protecting her who recognzied Ingo and reported the incident, Ingo was later quesitoned by black ops intelligence about "what he saw" and when he said a beautifull woman they seemed satisfied. Was she a woman at all? Was she even a human looking ET at all?
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Dr. David Jacobs in his book the threat, talks about a common theme seen in UFO abductions. One of the constants that no one was catching in his opinion was of an alien grey practically touching forheads with the abducted and projecting a "scene" or "scenario" that was misleading and had nothing to do with the actual abduction.
Jacobs then went on to talk about the unfolding scenario of abductions in relation to the removal of sperm and ova, and what seemed to be a hybridazation program. This program, Jacobs theorized, would create a strain of human that possesed this telepathy+ ability.

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In Robert MorningSky's, THE TERRA PAPERS (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/08PDF_Files/The_Terra_Papers_Parts_1_and_2.pdf), <--(freePDF) MorningSky recounts the story of a downed UFO in New Mexico fifty years ago that his grandfather witnessed. His grandfather with the help of a few other Apache Indians from the reservation found, helped and rescued an alien survivor of the crash who while hiding with the Indians told them the secret history of earth, which agreed very much with what Zacharia Sitchen has stated. MorningSky was told by his grandfather when he asked what the alien looked like that "the alien could appear to you however it wanted to appear to you".

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In THE LACERTA FILES INTERVIEW WITH A REPTILLIAN (http://www.scribd.com/doc/39838405/THE-LACERTA-FILES-I-II) <--(free read) Probably the most controversial source I'm using, a supposed reptillian female discloses to a human male in Swedan that her kind could walk among human's with little or no problem because of the fault programmed into the human brain by our makers (she talks about a group of beings not reptillian that sound very much like the beings in robert morningsky's terra pappers and Sitchin's annunaki) who made mankind with a mind easy to control via telepathy+ and that her kind could project the image of a human into our mind with ease over there own image.

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I just have to state, I would'nt list the Lacerta Interview here because of how controversial it is, but, I have found a lot of corrolation for it.
Her creation myth of earth is very impressive.
She talks at length about her people's craft being cigar shaped.
I live next to The Superstition Mountains a rumored base for the Reptillians and I've talked to a dozen eyewitnesses of a low flying cigar shaped shift at a rave at the base of the superstions. I have a freind independent from the dozen who took a picture of a cigar shaped ship at the superstitions and only saw it after the film was devoloped.
And Lacerta's description of look out office data rooms that are ports of entry above subturanean bases matches the same description a woman in arizona hiking in the superstitions gave when she was abducted as she happened on to one of these ports of entry and suffered a memory wipe that was only recovered through hypnotherapy.

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In closing I don't think Reptillians or aliens shape shift, I believe they can appear to us however they want,,,which,,when you think about it,,,makes the idea of the Nordics or human looking aliens seem,,,,,,dubious.

king anthony

27th May 2011, 14:12

In closing I don't think Reptillians or aliens shape shift, I believe they can appear to us however they want,,,which,,when you think about it,,,makes the idea of the Nordics or human looking aliens seem,,,,,,dubious.

I say, the "reptilians" do not "shapeshift" - rather, what is seen is when "they" "project", I have given answer to why this is; "they" also have the ability to "cloud perception", I have also given answer to why this is. I do not have the luxury of "belief" or "opinion" of my words.

persephonewillow

29th May 2011, 00:50

heya Strat!

sorry about the delay replying.

i'll answer your questions...

1. my childhood was fairly typical, besides the born again christian stuff. i went to a Catholic grade school, public high school. i had my first job at a fast food restaurant, like so many of my peers. i had a few good friends. the only thing i can say that was different was the christian brainwashing. in high school i *never* brought friends home spontaneously because i never knew if my parents were going to be "working" and performing an exorcism or "inner healing" with anyone. i made that mistake once and it freaked the crap out of my friend. heh.

2. i believe this has been going on my entire life. for as long as i can remember people have commented on my eyes. for as long as i can remember i've had times when i've felt very accutely aware i had eyeballs.

3. the condition seems to be pretty steady. but i can't say that for sure. maybe there are times when i'm not aware of it but someone else sees it. i dunno.

4. KA was the first non-christian to say anything. nooooooo... wait! i just remembered a guy i briefly dated a while back. he used to call me Dragon Eyes. i can't believe i had forgotten all about that til just now!! i never asked him what he meant by that. if i had to count, i'd say between 5 and 10 people have mentioned the eye thing to me (or the "possessed" thing). i think other people have seen it but don't say anything or brush it off as their imagination playing tricks because often people look me in the eye while talking and suddenly they'll look away in a rather startled-but-trying-to-hide-it manner.

5. i do. i do now. i never put the two together until KA opened up to me about it. i felt it last weekend when my parents were here for dinner... i was talking to my mum and i felt it. so i looked away from her because i didn't want her to see it and further the "you are possessed" thing. i always look away when it happens around my parents and their christian friends. i feel kind of ashamed of it around them.

6. no. other than the feeling ashamed or feeling the need to hide it when i'm around the people mentioned above. but i don't think that's the reptile doing it, it's outside influences making me feel that way.

feel free to pm me about my dreams. i'm not sure i can properly put them into words, but i will try :) there have been times when the dream has been so... real... i haven't been able to figure out if it was just a dream or if it really happened. there have been a few times that i've had to ask my man... was that real? did it happen?? and he, thankfully, understands. he thinks it might be the meds i take before bed. i should do some research on their side effects. sometimes they are lucid. but not overtly so... it's usually just a little nagging in the back of my mind that "yo... this is a dream chica..."

persephonewillow

29th May 2011, 00:57

Your predicament is certainly a difficult one but can I first say that (with respect) I'd hardly take the observations of "born again Christians" as any sort of validation with regards to your feelings. They certainly aren't known for their use of the "scientific method" when it comes to evaluating any unusual phenomena, from my experience they tend to bend whatever they see so that it fits their belief system.
Have you considered that you may be a victim of the "mind control via satellite" phenomenon that's been researched and exposed by Dr John Hall ? From what I've read this nasty practice has been and is still being performed illegally by the Black Ops people and their contractors, it's worth investigation before you start believing that you've been possessed by a Reptilian entity.

i have never heard of it. have any links? :)

the only reason i take the xtians accounts of my eyes into consideration is because they were by unconnected people... all in the same religious movement, but they weren't close friends of my parents. and my parents did not go around telling everyone i was possessed... it's a shameful thing and they worked as xtian counselours to rid people of demons and inner hurts... it would look bad if they couldn't even save their own daughter. know what i mean? but... yes... they do tend to bend information into their restricted view of hte world. i think this is why they all went directly to "possessed". that's what they know... angels and demons. not aliens or any other possible species.

persephonewillow

29th May 2011, 01:12

about how my eyes felt funny and strange. My friend sugested that I had sunburned my eyeballs this is when I heard the voice. In my head it said to ingore her and just look at things, that it meant no harm. I quietly freaked out, my friend was the type of person who claims to be cool with the paranormal yet freaks when it happens. My eyes felt abnormal, strange, to large and too small at the same time.

you put it into words better than i could! yes... my eyes do not feel like they fit right when it happens. and that's what makes it so very apparent i have eyes all of a sudden. i still have control over which way i turn them, what i look at, but they just don't feel right. there is no pain for me though. no burning or stinging. just... weird. and they feel fluttery. i don't know what other word to use to describe it. i feel almost as if they are blinking when i know they are not (not my eyelids anyway).

king anthony

1st June 2011, 00:14

...i have always been afraid to look in mirrors in the dark. once when i was very small i looked and the face i saw looking back was not me. but i was very young, i don't remember the details of it anymore, i just remember seeing something that made me uncomfortable and i haven't looked in a mirror in the dark since.

I say, the words I speak I give with warning, for no one should try and I will not be full with my words. To look into a mirror in the dark, with other elements in aid, will allow one to see (and go) the places I have seen and been.

The doorway to other places is opened; however, once opened and "those others" know of the one "looking" - then for the one "looking", if not with ability, meaning, one not of the masses, will surly know what is in "darkness" "here".

Some of these places, I have been told, shaman use doorways to enter - what doorway and where it leads, is mystery to those who should not be seeking. There are other ways to open these doors - and for me, since my youth, I can "feel" these doorways all around.

I have mentioned this to a few people here in PA, but not how - I say, may my words be judged and my testament to truth. For if anyone seeks this and finds on their own, I say, I am not responsible for I truly only give warning to those who are foolish enough to give this thought.

Explanation of how this is, can be given using modern technology.

Saul

1st June 2011, 00:20

Moderator's edit: Saul disagrees with the previous posts.

king anthony

1st June 2011, 00:24

Moderator's edit: Saul disagrees with the previous posts.

I say, it is wise to know one's limits then reach beyond, for if the conditioning of "these times" is all one has, then that is all one can "carry".

Lord Sidious

1st June 2011, 00:30

Moderator's edit: Saul disagrees with the previous posts.

How very erudite.
Not.
Is that the best you can contribute?
If so, why bother?

Saul

1st June 2011, 00:34

Amazing stuff..keep it coming!

bearcow

1st June 2011, 01:25

I say, the words I speak I give with warning, for no one should try and I will not be full with my words. To look into a mirror in the dark, with other elements in aid, will allow one to see (and go) the places I have seen and been.

The doorway to other places is opened; however, once opened and "those others" know of the one "looking" - then for the one "looking", if not with ability, meaning, one not of the masses, will surly know what is in "darkness" "here".

Some of these places, I have been told, shaman use doorways to enter - what doorway and where it leads, is mystery to those who should not be seeking. There are other ways to open these doors - and for me, since my youth, I can "feel" these doorways all around.

I have mentioned this to a few people here in PA, but not how - I say, may my words be judged and my testament to truth. For if anyone seeks this and finds on their own, I say, I am not responsible for I truly only give warning to those who are foolish enough to give this thought.

Explanation of how this is, can be given using modern technology.

i posted a similar line of thought a few weeks back

When the yang sunlight is reflected off the moon it flipped to yin. the more yin energy in nature, generally speaking, the easier it is to reach the trance state. ceremonial rites done on the full moon use the extra yin energy available to contact spirits, etc. Remember Alice walked through the reflected light of the mirror to end up in wonderland?

obsidian seeing stones, crystal balls, some waterfalls in nature can used in a similar fashion as they can hold yin chi and create a field that can act as a portal to/in the astral

Maia Gabrial

1st June 2011, 01:42

I believe I could live with all sorts of aliens, as long as they can live with me. What bothers me is all the secrecy surrounding THEM. The govt has given them permission to live in our neighborhoods, but not in their own, of course.....
Some aliens may hate us to the point where they've eaten a few of us from time to time. (Ewww!) Then again, some aliens might want the same thing that I do: to live in peace and harmony with everyone. Contrary to popular belief, planet Earth is large enough for everyone....IMO, between humans and aliens, we could solve many of the "problems" we're facing now....
Maia

KeelahSelai

1st June 2011, 01:56

I see and deal with these beings often, note; that if people have a problem with that, I am sorry. In my experience it is not the Reptile that shifts from one physical being to another, it's always the reptile, it simply manipulates what we see using filters, see touch and hear, even feel.

Syd

19th June 2011, 21:13

Welcome Persephonewillow! Thank you for sharing your story with us. I hope you get some answers, and from your non-threatening experiences, it seems that you are very protected. Maybe they feel there is an ancestoral contract that gives them the right to 'know' our environment through your eyes, or could the entity be you in another dimension? Could they be ghosts from another dimension? It seems like you are in control of your consciousness when this issue happens so I don't think there should be worries. Peace

guyrandom

20th June 2011, 02:17

persephonewillow,

From what I know about reptilian brains; is that we all have parts of it; which if I'm correct controls the ritualising parts of our nature, fear, anger/rage. Habits and repeatable patterns we don't like to break from. Do you find yourself particularly patterned in your daily life with extremely passionate reactions..more than most?

king anthony

24th June 2011, 13:19

I say, these things are and are not a manifestation or imagination – to have such false empowerment of belief is not to aid. Some of “those others” may deceive many with such falsehood as preparation of the time to come is at hand – for they deceive by disarming many with what is real; and give that which is not.

I remain silent now as I leave.

Syd

26th July 2011, 22:52

This experience (2nd paragraph below), also happened to famous psychic Ellie Crystal and was witnessed by a client. Here is her blog post from 7/26/11 (her A-Z metaphysics website gets around 1 million views daily. She says she is not of the "love & light" fluff metaphysics type and is very practical):

"Speaking of the entertainment industry -- Monday I received a call from a friend in media out in LA who is producing a show about the Reptilian influence on the planet now and asked if I would like to partake in the adventure. I presented my theories on Reptilian mythology, the Sumerian gods and how it all intertwines within the Hologram - Matrix. To date I do not plan to do the show, as without tangible proof -- and no one has it -- it would sound too pseudoscience. The people of planet Earth seek The Next ... which is indisputable proof. That will come at the end of the program.

The coolest part about Ellie and Reptilians ... Do you remember this experiment? You sit across from someone in a dimly lit room, stare into their eyes and see whomever appears as their facial features change and information streams into your consciousness about their parallel experiences. Since my 2010-2011 experiences with Reptilians - when someone looks at me I immediately morph into a male reptilian. Interesting. I even tried the experiment with a cop client when I looked into his past/parallel lives. When we were finished he said, "Ellie, I am not sure how this is done, but as soon as I looked into your eyes, you changed in a Reptilian." He had no frame of reference for that. I most often turn into Z or another male. I am rarely a woman. Maybe I wanted to have the Boob Experience !?" (Z is her spirit guide who also played the role of Toth (Egyptian God of the Moon,Magic, & Writing, in the past.)
-Ellie Crystal of http://www.crystalinks.com/elliesworld.html

mahalall

8th March 2012, 22:45

Thank you King Anthony/Pershonewillow,

With acceptance

may i add,

If you've ever looked into the eyes of a long time serious meditator, your'll see the sky blue-even in Asiatic brown eyes-seductive hypnotic blue, which supports Carmody's statement
"The given eye color (due to the growth thing and the level and type of connectedness of the brain and eye) may be connected to the ability of that particular example (neural structure and design), base coding, base structure type of energetic expression to 'unfold' or 'connect' in this world, regarding manipulation of the dimensional doorway"

With reference to shape shifting and meeting them,

Some may dismiss the phenomena as illusionary created by background radioactive/solar gamma rays which have a neuro-magnetic effect thus creating the perception of serpents,
ref Dr.M.Persingers:God Helmet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y02UlkYjSi0.

For any one who might be in such currents and sees the white cobras at Menwith Hill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Menwith_Hill
or the green tailed ones associated with lust,
ask the question if it is not an illusion then one should experience the phenomena in real (?) physical sensory field?

Eight hours after asking this question i had the encounter that would make one ponder.

In clinical practise (careful of confidentiality) at 2.30am (pls note this was not a circadial tertra brainwave event causing a visual disturbance) i was informed to prepare for an admission of an acutely ill septic person.
(before i describe the event i should add that i met the person three days later. The person had responded well to treatment and was a lovely, warm hearted, brown eyed person)

The person arrived and had all the symptoms of an acute septic crises and needed higher system support. One characteristic to note was that the person had a ph of 7.23-blood acid-base is a marker of metabolic status-anyone in clinical practise with the acutely ill will know this and work with it in planning treatment.( Normal ph >7.35) a ph of 7.23 is consistent with the septic picture,
but in this persons case there were some other features which were evident that could be crudely perceived reptilian/demonic in nature.

The persons iris had gone from brown to yellow. An Iridologist would say Yellow-white indicates an area of the body losing a battle.Yellow indicates poor kidney function.
http://altmed.creighton.edu/Iridology/principles_of_iridology.htm

The person had leptospirosis, namely conjunctival suffusion and a transient petechial rash. Basically purple patches all over her body-these are commonly seen septic status-low platlets.
http://www.leptospirosis.org/topic.php?t=50

But consciously the person had a psychi an awareness that cut through the room. The person would look at you and see right into you and if you did not have presence with positive regard-simply compassion in practise that person snarled at you.

One can look at the person from the bio-medical model as having a septic breakdown or from a reptile-bio model,
"The Draco (Reptilian) with the “O” RH-blood has unique properties because of the polarity of the blood cells. Blood is electrically/magnetic/chemical based. The relationship of all three must be kept at a specific PH balance of 7.0 to 7.2"
http://www.think-aboutit.com/health/DISCUSSIONOFBLOODGROUPSANDTHHUMANSPECIES.htm

I suppose John Carpenter would say it depends on the type of sunglasses you wear.

king anthony

9th March 2012, 02:02

...The persons iris had gone from brown to yellow.... One can look at the person from the bio-medical model as having a septic breakdown or from a reptile-bio model...

I appreciate the medical perspective. However, the event(s) I shared regarding Z was "something" not medical; for example, the skin area on the face was not static and was "multi bright colors" - it was much more then the pupil and/or the iris that changes. There was/is no doubt it was there, as I could feel it being and so forth.

Within a short period of time, after the said with Z, I had encountered this species face-to-face, meaning this species and I without another person. As well, during this time, I had (new types of) "weird" events (as I call them) occur (not similar). At the risk of sounding "nuts", I know this species to this day... meaning once in a while.

I am not here to convince anyone of anything - I have shared this one story and attempted to provide "evidence" (not to imply Z is an object) by way of introduction. I cannot comment about "the person arrived" (in the above post), as I was not there. However, knowing what I do know about "them" (not claiming to be an expert) - who is to say... what was being witnessed... was not a projection and the medical test results "captured" how it affects the body.

Sith73

9th March 2012, 02:53

I would like to point out that all races of beings are children of God no matter if they are good or bad. Not everyone has an agenda or bent on destroying or conquering everything in sight. One can be racist and say "I hate white people!" or you could say f##k those Draco or reptilian bastards who eat children. Every soul has a choice to be what they are or choose to be. Most every human on this planet has reptilian genetics and its all in the percentages. I have no problem and would love to meet a reptilian shape shifter. Everyone deserves respect regardless of race. The only problem I have is suppression of spirit which humanity has been. Times are changing for humanity as we move into 4d. I offer friendship to any reptilians who seek the same in return.

Love and light!

songsfortheotherkind

9th March 2012, 03:36

hi forums.<> so. here i am. like KingAnthony said, i don't want to be a circus freak here. i don't want to be the weird reptilian woman. i want thoughts, opinions, information and answers because, frankly, i'm at a loss and am having trouble wrapping my head around the whole thing.

Hello and welcome, from a fellow shifter in a family of shifters. I've briefly identified on this board before as being 'not human' and that's kind of gone under the radar. I've sent you a PM. :) Interestingly my pentecostal/born again mother thought I was a demon, until her congregation discovered I could heal by touch and had presentience, then they oscillated between 'child of god' and 'child of satan'. Happily, I am now neither! :D

king anthony

9th March 2012, 04:33

songsfortheotherkind

9th March 2012, 06:07

...from a fellow shifter in a family of shifters...

FYI - this species does not shape shift.

@ ALL

FYI - persephonewillow has not been here since early last summer and I cannot see her coming back; at least anytime soon.

Thanks for that information, I appreciate it. FWIW, I was using the term 'shifter' to describe the presence of form shifting, whether conscious or not- eyes shifting from one kind to another is one example. Shifting for me describes a fluid state of physical Being that ranges from small to total shifts. None of my family are full shifters, we *are* slidey and do change appearance. Just so we're clear.

Can I ask, was it something that happened here that caused her to leave? Or was it other factors? I don't want details, just wondering if there was anything that could have been done more effectively if it *was* something that happened here, and if so what your suggestions might be. I'm truly hoping to run into other shifters- is 'sliders' a more appropriate term?- and it might be good to have some protocols that have been discussed for such things so that those coming to the board identifying as such aren't bombarded with well meaning but unhelpful 'here's what I think about your reality' communications. I'm *not* saying that's what went on here, *and* I think it might be an interesting conversation to have.

Peace.

king anthony

9th March 2012, 07:53

...is 'sliders' a more appropriate term?- and it might be good to have some protocols that have been discussed for such things so that those coming to the board identifying as such aren't bombarded with well meaning but unhelpful 'here's what I think about your reality'...

This species has the ability to project, meaning it is not a (tangible) fluid state of anything - although they are as real as human beings. Protocols, aside from people's fictions on the topic, have been made clear. Finally, there is no multiple realities as each share the same - this has been explained time and time again.

songsfortheotherkind

9th March 2012, 08:25

This species has the ability to project, meaning it is not a (tangible) fluid state of anything - although they are as real as human beings.

/headtilt/ The way you are describing this is in parameters that I don't use, so I cannot get the sense of what you are describing. Are these matters that are discussed in the book you mentioned? Is it more appropriate to direct my curiousity and questioning there?

Protocols, aside from people's fictions on the topic, have been made clear.

Where? In this thread, or somewhere else? I am feeling like I'm being dismissed, which I'm not sure is your intention but I'm aware that this could be a possibility, so I'm expressing it and asking- am I being dismissed? If so, ok, now I know that somewhere the protocols have been made clear but I'm not to be privy to them. If I'm not being dismissed, ok, and it would be helpful to be pointed towards some information about said protocols.

Finally, there is no multiple realities as each share the same - this has been explained time and time again.

Is it within the scope of these shared realities that are the same for every individual to disagree on this? For reasons that I can't be bothered going into right now? Thank you for letting me know that this concept has been explained time and time again.

Rantaak

9th March 2012, 10:52

If you are focusing your attention on your lower chakras, it is more than likely that you have a tendency to give in to reptilian complexes.

Every human is wired in three capacities, and the reptilian is the primary and most basic. We can makes the upward shifts - like a butterfly from a cocoon.

You may grow into a multitude of things, but one thing is certain. Once you're there, you'll know exactly what you are.

king anthony

9th March 2012, 17:31

/headtilt/... ...time and time again.

The word protocol can mean many things. Your "enthusiasm" with questions (and your answers to your questions) is like walking through the rain. Perhaps the following may clarify things.

Fictions can be discussed to no end, as they can never conclude. This is why some/many find enjoyment in discussing fictions; as facts are, at times, boring and do have conclusion.

This is why some/many can at best, when discussing fictions, conclude to "agree to disagree". This is why social conditioning has some/many falsely empowered with such nonsense as, "no one is wrong" and "each are entitled to" when discussing fictions as facts.

I offer "the shirt and tie model": a person is wearing a shirt and tie.

Opinion - Does the shirt and tie combination go well together or not.

Theory - Is making the shirt and tie combination go well together or not.

Belief - Is the hope that one is correct in their theory of the shirt and tie combination going well together or not.

Hope - Is the impossibility of reason.

Faith - Is that someone other will agree, or disagree, with the theory or opinion that the shirt and tie combination goes well together or not.

The above said are fictions as they exist without form or evidence.

Fact - The shirt and tie remain the same despite of any fictions imposed.

Of what benefit is it to discuss fictions, as there can never be conclusion - as thought perpetuates, with each being falsely empowered or in a perpetual state of, for example, seeking, no understanding or simply telling tales.

Complicating the uncomplicated is another form of bastardizing facts, allowing fictions to be incorporated until it becomes what one, some or many want it to be - this also fulfills the feel-good within those in need and awing those who do not know better. Social conditioning, as well as personal needs of feel-good has made these examples so.

You were not being dismissed in my previous post, which was written in the middle of the night (for me) - I now say, I wish you well.