Got any advice on sleep?

[IndigoStar]

Hi everyone,
I have problems getting to sleep at night because of fear. I'm scared to go to sleep because I feel like I won't be present to protect my physical body. Has anyone got any suggestions of how to overcome this?

I am using meditation and breathing techniques and they are helping me to feel calm and get me to sleep.

The problem is that I can't sleep through the night, so I wake up after every few hours and have to repeat the same cycle - fear, healing, get to sleep, wake up...

Is it only the fear in my sub-conscious mind waking me up or is there a relation between adjusting to higher vibrations and sleep patterns?

I would be very grateful to hear any advice or techniques which aid sleep!

[Lord Sidious]

I can't help you, sorry.
But have you any idea what the fear stems from?
If you do, that might be an avenue of solution.

[Morgaine]

Hello IndigoStar,
Do you ask for protection in the form of light, peace and love? I do this everyday, and find it works instantly. You could also try a healing stone to have next to your bed,or under your pillow? (Rose quartz, amythest, hematite etc) You can over stimulate your brain into heightened anxiety very easily, making it hard to maintain a relaxed state. I'm sure there are many friends here who can assist you with finding the best prayer/thought for you to say as you fall asleep. I really think this can help you Indigo-
Best wishes to you-
Morgaine

[IndigoStar]

I can't help you, sorry.
Thanks for the reply anyway : )


But have you any idea what the fear stems from?
If you do, that might be an avenue of solution.

Yes I know exactly what it stems from - zeta contact. I wrote about it in this thread - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20087-ET-contact-and-overcoming-psychological-after-effects

I'm scared to go to sleep because they might come while I'm asleep and take me. The crazy thing is I don't believe they are doing harm to me, and even if I'm awake and they want to take me they can put me to sleep and take me anyway!

I can't really handle the idea of being asleep and somebody taking my body and doing stuff to me and not knowing where I am, who is touching me and what they are doing. (despite the fact that I will be returned unharmed)

[IndigoStar]

Hi Morgaine,
Thanks for the uplifiting reply : )


Do you ask for protection in the form of light, peace and love?

Yes I do that and I find it to be helpful. That's part of the cycle I mentioned which is one of my techniques to dispel the fear...then I manage to fall asleep, but then I wake up again and it's back so I have to repeat the healing work.


You could also try a healing stone to have next to your bed,or under your pillow? (Rose quartz, amythest, hematite etc)

I used to do that but then I did the reconnective healing course with Eric Pearl and he changed my belief system somewhat. I don't know if you're familiar with his work but he puts forward a very strong argument about using protection. I will probably write a separate thread on that actually. Anyways, I will put rose quartz next to my bed tonight and see if it helps : )



You can over stimulate your brain into heightened anxiety very easily, making it hard to maintain a relaxed state. I'm sure there are many friends here who can assist you with finding the best prayer/thought for you to say as you fall asleep. I really think this can help you Indigo-

Yes that is exactly what happens to my brain and I am unable to maintain that relaxed state. So far I've found lots of useful advice since I joined this forum so I think you are right and thank you so much for your lovely suggestions.

I really need to overcome this fear issue because it is creating a blockage in my light body and preventing me from advancing on a spiritual level. Well...I suppose I am progressing because of the fear but I seem to be having more difficulty with this lesson/challenge than I've had learning anything else!

[crosby]

along with meditation and breathing exercises try a little melatonin. it may help relax you enough to really take the edge off. with lack of sleep comes more fear, more lack of sleep, more fear, etc. it's a vicious cycle. lack of rem sleep could make anyone psychotic. there are some great herbal teas that may help as well. hope this helps.
regards, corson

[Flash]

This happens as well when menopause starts. It may start as early as 38-39 years old.

Anyhow, I should not give advice on sleep but rather get some for myself, now 5 AM and not sleeping!:confused:

[Tony]

Hi everyone,
I have problems getting to sleep at night because of fear. I'm scared to go to sleep because I feel like I won't be present to protect my physical body. Has anyone got any suggestions of how to overcome this?

I am using meditation and breathing techniques and they are helping me to feel calm and get me to sleep.

The problem is that I can't sleep through the night, so I wake up after every few hours and have to repeat the same cycle - fear, healing, get to sleep, wake up...

Is it only the fear in my sub-conscious mind waking me up or is there a relation between adjusting to higher vibrations and sleep patterns?

I would be very grateful to hear any advice or techniques which aid sleep!

Dear IndigoStar,
This is a very delicate subject and complex, and individual.

I don't sleep very well, it's a sort of sleep aware. And I was getting very tired.
I went to see Mike Lambert of the Shen clinic, on the isle of Wight. He treats David Icke.

It seems my adrenal gland was doing over time, which is affecting my kidneys.
This is all due to a life time of worry and diet. So I was in catch 22 syndrome.

This will sound very strange. After forty years of being a vegetarian,
he suggested I eat fat, and low carbohydrate diet. There is a web site
called Second Opinion run by Barry groves, it's worth a look.
I am reading his book, Trick and treat, you will be amazed at what the
food industry and pharmaceuticals have been cooking up!

All I'm saying is that your worry can be effecting your body chemicals,
and may have to be brought back to balance.

As to the fear, this is also complex, but you could see it as exaggerated worry.
Reading this site doesn't help!!!

If you want to chat privately we can. Generalising can cause problems.

pie'n'eal

[IndigoStar]

along with meditation and breathing exercises try a little melatonin. it may help relax you enough to really take the edge off. with lack of sleep comes more fear, more lack of sleep, more fear, etc. it's a vicious cycle. lack of rem sleep could make anyone psychotic. there are some great herbal teas that may help as well. hope this helps.

Hi Corson, I'll definitely get some melatonin and herbal teas - thanks for the suggestions!

I am wondering if these remedies will just 'mask' the problem. I probably need to get to the root of the issue and work on it at that level to completely dispel it. I'd be happy to hear any suggestions on how to do that too! (Not that the relaxation suggestions aren't extremely helpful - they are! And I'm really appreciative that you took the time to reply and help me.

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This happens as well when menopause starts. It may start as early as 38-39 years old.

Anyhow, I should not give advice on sleep but rather get some for myself, now 5 AM and not sleeping!:confused:

omg don't give me a new fear! LOL I'm 30 and my husband and I are trying for a baby (have been for 2 years!) We think maybe it's waiting til after 2012 ; )
Maybe you can try some techniques from this thread too!

[Morgaine]

Hello Indigo,
Is it possible (I am not very learned on such things, I must tell you!) that you can communicate directly to these beings? I read your post and you said you felt no fear and that they could speak to you, and you felt intense warmth and love. Hopefully this can mean that you can ask them to either leave you alone for a while, or to leave you alone for good?
I will watch this space with interest! (pun intended!)
Peace Indigo-
Morgaine

[IndigoStar]

Hello Indigo,
Is it possible (I am not very learned on such things, I must tell you!) that you can communicate directly to these beings?
I think I can communicate with them. But the problem is that when they 'talk' it seems like my own thoughts so I can't be 100% sure that I'm talking to them and not my imagination! This means that even if I get a reassuring piece of information it doesn't really help me because I doubt its validity.


I read your post and you said you felt no fear and that they could speak to you, and you felt intense warmth and love. Hopefully this can mean that you can ask them to either leave you alone for a while, or to leave you alone for good?

Did I write that I felt no fear? I totally felt fear! I couldn't move because of the fear (during the zeta experience) and thought I was going to die from a heart-attack!
With the 2nd experience it was less scary because I wasn't in a completely conscious state. I was in a kind of drugged state. I only felt intense warmth and love from the 'black guy' and interestingly I'm not scared of him or the feline woman visiting me. I'm only scared of seeing the zetas! I think a big part of the fear is their appearance. The other 2 looked more human-like so I was more comfortable with it.

Now it's almost like I'm scared of them coming back because I'm scared that I'll feel that fear again! So I'm more scared of the fear than I am of them! [/QUOTE]

[Flasky]

Gah, I completely get it Indigo....

HAVE YOUR HUSBAND CUDDLE YOU! ...Or since you guys are trying for a baby (aww best of luck guys!) get yourselves really, really, really, reaaaaalllllyy *tiered*!

;)

[Moonwish]

Hi IndigoStar;

I've been having sleep issues for several years now due to much the same reasons. One time I just asked them to touch my hand to let me know what was coming
and they did that and it was oddly comforting. Something "held" my hand for several minutes and seemed to enjoy it as well. You might try that.

Other more "practical" things are magnesium dissolved in water--VitaCost has a relatively cheap version which works well.

The other, and most important thing I suggest, is to go ahead and plan some time to just fully "feel" the fear. Write about it, beat pillows, do whatever feels right to experience and release it.

Going into it isn't easy at first, but if you can release it you will get back your power.

[IndigoStar]

Gah, I completely get it Indigo....

HAVE YOUR HUSBAND CUDDLE YOU! ...Or since you guys are trying for a baby (aww best of luck guys!) get yourselves really, really, really, reaaaaalllllyy *tiered*!

;)

Thanks for making me smile : )
He does cuddle me but I don't feel protected by him because I know that if they come they can just 'put him under' and I'll be alone : S

[IndigoStar]

Hi Moonwish

I've been having sleep issues for several years now due to much the same reasons.

I'd love to hear about your experience if you feel like sharing?


One time I just asked them to touch my hand to let me know what was coming and they did that and it was oddly comforting. Something "held" my hand for several minutes and seemed to enjoy it as well. You might try that.

Yes I ask the angels to come and I feel them stroking my face which I find comforting. I think I'll try asking them to hold my hand and see what that feels like! : )


Other more "practical" things are magnesium dissolved in water--VitaCost has a relatively cheap version which works well.

Thanks I'll try that.


The other, and most important thing I suggest, is to go ahead and plan some time to just fully "feel" the fear. Write about it, beat pillows, do whatever feels right to experience and release it. Going into it isn't easy at first, but if you can release it you will get back your power.

That is great advice, thank you! I've been feeling like I need to confront the fear in order to dispel it so I will definitely try this.

[9eagle9]

You have to get to the root of the problem, which that you feel dis-empowered or defenseless. This is noted by the phrase" Asking for protection". One needs to learn to be in authority of their own protection, having it in the hands of something unseen and external does not inspire the sort of confidence we need. If it did you'd be asleep. Fear really isn't the core value here, its trust and self value.

Deep inside you lack the conviction you are worthy of protection. Lack of trust in the 'highest authority' Call it god, call it whatever you will.

IF one knew and truly felt they were protected the issue would have went away on its own. It hasn't because the actual cause of it hasn't been addressed. The actual wakening up all night is that you are processing this defenselessness, disempowermen,t non-trust scenario at night in a sort of cycle.

You aren't waking up so much that you feel your physical body is in danger, you are wakening up to check to see if its truly being protected.

And like most people who externalize their protection and defense there are some trust issues and self value issues going on in there. Now you are in a cycle of asking for protection, a sort of surface balm, and your lack of conviction is being expressed by wakening all night. The core is self value, self trust. There is a part of you that is not getting a satisfactory response and you are truly not at a trust state with that which you are calling on to provide for you.

When we assume our own empowerment which isn't externalized, but just there all the time, issues of this nature go away. But you have to work through the inner core values that may not be apparent to you. They are apparent to me because you've expressed them. We live in a state of co existence and unconscious acceptance of our core values thats why I always say we can't see our own issues. Other people can though. The only way I was able to heal my own issues is that I was lucky enough to have people brave enough to point them out to me. While that requires a lot of reflection to work them out it also puts us in control of our circumstances.

[pyrangello]

Indigostar,I have a fan running at a low speed at night, or bubbles from a fish tank. If it's quiet I wake up to everything. More important though is asking your guardian angels for their assistance . If you ask they will show you the way, and you can't wish it to be or want it to be, you have to expect it to be. Trust in the angels !!!!

[IndigoStar]

Woahhhh, have to read this one about 3 times over! Thanks for the insight! I think you are right that I have to deal with the inner issues in order to overcome my problem.


You have to get to the root of the problem, which that you feel dis-empowered or defenseless.
Yes that is EXACTLY how I feel and I most definitely want to overcome this feeling!


This is noted by the phrase" Asking for protection". One needs to learn to be in authority of their own protection, having it in the hands of something unseen and external does not inspire the sort of confidence we need. If it did you'd be asleep.
If I understand correctly, that is exactly what I was talking about earlier when I mentioned the belief system I learnt from Eric Pearl...if I need to ask something else for protection (crystals, reiki symbols etc etc) then I am stating that I am not enough on my own as I am, which in fact is not true. I am enough on my own. Did I understand your point correctly? If so, then maybe I am lacking self-belief! (That just came to me as I was writing this)


Fear really isn't the core value here, its trust and self value.
Self value as in the self-belief I just mentioned above? What exactly do you think I need to have trust in? My own ability to cope in frightening situations?


Deep inside you lack the conviction you are worthy of protection. Lack of trust in the 'highest authority' Call it god, call it whatever you will.
Protection in what sense? I do not believe that angel-type protection can prevent the ET visits, because I believe I am destined to interact with them and they can't interfere with my path of destiny. What I need is strength in coping with it. Do I need to trust that God (let's call it God just for the sake of ease) will give me the courage to (just got 13:13 on the clock right now, how interesting!)...anyway to continue, do I need to trust that god will help me to overcome my fear? Maybe you could expand this point a little because I'm not sure I understand it entirely.


IF one knew and truly felt they were protected the issue would have went away on its own. It hasn't because the actual cause of it hasn't been addressed. The actual wakening up all night is that you are processing this defenselessness, disempowermen,t non-trust scenario at night in a sort of cycle.

Again, I'm not sure in which sense you mean when you say 'protected.' Is it the angel-protection? My belief is that the angels help me to feel calm and fall asleep again. I don't believe they stop the visits. I agree that I need to address the cause of the issue and I appreciate your help in assisting me to find it. It is often very easy to see things in others that we are unable to see in ourselves. I agree with your point on the cycle you described.


You aren't waking up so much that you feel your physical body is in danger, you are wakening up to check to see if its truly being protected.
I think I wake up to check if zetas are standing over me! It is so pointless though because if they were I would probably feel the fear I am so scared of feeling, so I'd be better just sleeping and not seeing them if they do come! Or am I waking up because on some level I want them to be there to test if I am able to cope?


And like most people who externalize their protection and defense there are some trust issues and self value issues going on in there.
*ouch* ...ego takes a punch : ) but that's a good thing because it means you hit the truth! If it weren't true it wouldn't have affected me. On the surface level I like to believe that I value myself highly. Maybe deep down I do have self-value issues. Time to start digging! Again, not sure what you think I need to trust? In my destiny? In that everything that happens at any given moment is happening because that is how it is meant to be?



Now you are in a cycle of asking for protection, a sort of surface balm, and your lack of conviction is being expressed by wakening all night. The core is self value, self trust. There is a part of you that is not getting a satisfactory response and you are truly not at a trust state with that which you are calling on to provide for you.

I just had to read back up to my earlier post about the protection thing, and I see it refers to asking for help in the form of light, peace and love. I do not fully believe that should I awaken in the middle of the night and see zetas standing over me, that light, peace and love will fill me and overwhelm me with calm. I would love nothing more than to believe that and for it to happen but it is difficult for me to have 'blind faith' so to speak. I guess I need some evidence? What if I wake up and see them and am terrified, like I was last time? Why wasn't I filled with light, peace and love then? Or maybe I was assisted...maybe without the protective force I would actually have had a heart attack and died!


When we assume our own empowerment which isn't externalized, but just there all the time, issues of this nature go away.
I want nothing more than to assume my own empowerment and reach a state where I am calm in any given situation. More advice on how to achieve this would be very welcomed!


But you have to work through the inner core values that may not be apparent to you. They are apparent to me because you've expressed them. We live in a state of co existence and unconscious acceptance of our core values thats why I always say we can't see our own issues. Other people can though. The only way I was able to heal my own issues is that I was lucky enough to have people brave enough to point them out to me. While that requires a lot of reflection to work them out it also puts us in control of our circumstances.

I too am lucky to have people (like you) point out these issues to me.
Let the reflection and healing begin!

[Flasky]

Gah, I completely get it Indigo....

HAVE YOUR HUSBAND CUDDLE YOU! ...Or since you guys are trying for a baby (aww best of luck guys!) get yourselves really, really, really, reaaaaalllllyy *tiered*!

;)

Thanks for making me smile : )
He does cuddle me but I don't feel protected by him because I know that if they come they can just 'put him under' and I'll be alone : S

Aww, I am really glad I did!:thumb: I must thank you for asking this question because I am learning a bit from it too. Particularly:


You have to get to the root of the problem, which that you feel dis-empowered or defenseless. This is noted by the phrase" Asking for protection". One needs to learn to be in authority of their own protection, having it in the hands of something unseen and external does not inspire the sort of confidence we need. If it did you'd be asleep. Fear really isn't the core value here, its trust and self value.

Deep inside you lack the conviction you are worthy of protection. Lack of trust in the 'highest authority' Call it god, call it whatever you will.

IF one knew and truly felt they were protected the issue would have went away on its own. It hasn't because the actual cause of it hasn't been addressed. The actual wakening up all night is that you are processing this defenselessness, disempowermen,t non-trust scenario at night in a sort of cycle.

You aren't waking up so much that you feel your physical body is in danger, you are wakening up to check to see if its truly being protected.

And like most people who externalize their protection and defense there are some trust issues and self value issues going on in there. Now you are in a cycle of asking for protection, a sort of surface balm, and your lack of conviction is being expressed by wakening all night. The core is self value, self trust. There is a part of you that is not getting a satisfactory response and you are truly not at a trust state with that which you are calling on to provide for you.

When we assume our own empowerment which isn't externalized, but just there all the time, issues of this nature go away. But you have to work through the inner core values that may not be apparent to you. They are apparent to me because you've expressed them. We live in a state of co existence and unconscious acceptance of our core values thats why I always say we can't see our own issues. Other people can though. The only way I was able to heal my own issues is that I was lucky enough to have people brave enough to point them out to me. While that requires a lot of reflection to work them out it also puts us in control of our circumstances.

....I thought it was GREAT food for thought. I'd never seen it that way, that kind of makes clear a lot of things --even if not others, lol, what the heck...But thank you for writing that 9eagle9!

And I don't mean to offend anyone...but if I was laying there in my bed, eyes closed knowing someone was there, I'd freak out if my face/hands - or what have you - were stroked or held! :shout:

((P.S. We NEED an emoticon/smiley that is in a bed and does something like cover itself up with the sheets lol, I terrible wanted to put that in my post! :P))

EDIT

Indigo you just wrote:' I think I wake up to check if zetas are standing over me! It is so pointless though because if they were I would probably feel the fear I am so scared of feeling, so I'd be better just sleeping and not seeing them if they do come! Or am I waking up because on some level I want them to be there to test if I am able to cope? '

...and OMG that is exactly how I feel! -----Everything you say is more or less straight from my head---

HEY!

YOU ARE THE ONE COMING LATE AT NIGHT IN MY BEDROOM AND POKING THROUGH MY MIND!!! :p

Not but really...creepy...I feel ya sister! *hug*

[IndigoStar]

Indigostar,I have a fan running at a low speed at night, or bubbles from a fish tank. If it's quiet I wake up to everything. More important though is asking your guardian angels for their assistance . If you ask they will show you the way, and you can't wish it to be or want it to be, you have to expect it to be. Trust in the angels !!!!

I wake up because I am kind of 'on guard' so everything wakes me up.

I will try to trust that the angels will help me. What would I do without those guys? : ) It does appear from peoples' comments that I lack trust and faith. The question is why?

[john.d]

This might sound strange but walking bare foot outside can help with insomnia . Not sure if would help you but the grounding definately helps some people .

John

[IndigoStar]

Gah, I completely get it Indigo....

It's so nice just to hear that someone else gets it!


I must thank you for asking this question because I am learning a bit from it too.

That's good to hear : )


....I thought it was GREAT food for thought. I'd never seen it that way, that kind of makes clear a lot of things --even if not others, lol, what the heck...But thank you for writing that 9eagle9!
Yeah it was a great post!


And I don't mean to offend anyone...but if I was laying there in my bed, eyes closed knowing someone was there, I'd freak out if my face/hands - or what have you - were stroked or held! :shout:

It does sound like it would be scary but they seem to have the ability to make a feeling of intense calm come over you so it just feels lovely and warm. When they stroke my face it isn't like if I human would stroke my face, it's very, very gently and doesn't feel like fingers. It's a bit like a feather, but it doesn't tickle. Ask them to come by you and give you a stroke! LOL (no rude joke intended!) I'm sure you will like it!


((P.S. We NEED an emoticon/smiley that is in a bed and does something like cover itself up with the sheets lol, I terrible wanted to put that in my post! :P))

You make me laugh : )


Indigo you just wrote:' I think I wake up to check if zetas are standing over me! It is so pointless though because if they were I would probably feel the fear I am so scared of feeling, so I'd be better just sleeping and not seeing them if they do come! Or am I waking up because on some level I want them to be there to test if I am able to cope? '

...and OMG that is exactly how I feel! -----Everything you say is more or less straight from my head---

It's so nice to hear someone is dealing with the same issues. If you are feeling this then I'm pretty sure you are getting visits too! Why else would you have these feelings?


HEY! YOU ARE THE ONE COMING LATE AT NIGHT IN MY BEDROOM AND POKING THROUGH MY MIND HEY!!! :p

Not but really...creepy...I feel ya sister! *hug*

Awwwww you got me! ; )
*hug*

[IndigoStar]

This might sound strange but walking bare foot outside can help with insomnia . Not sure if would help you but the grounding definately helps some people .

That doesn't sound strange at all. In fact I've been told numerous times that I need to ground myself and have been advised to do this by others. The fact is, I don't really have a strong urge to connect myself to this planet. I feel trapped here. Someone told me to imagine strings coming out of my feet and connecting them to a crystal deep inside the earth. I did that and felt like I'd been tied up! I want to fly in the universe and visit the myriad planets and interact with the galactic nations (yeah I know...gotta get over this fear first!) I'm dealing with major polarised mind issues right now!

Yesterday I just led on the grass outside and exchanged energy with the earth and it felt great so I think your suggestion is a useful one and I'll do some more of that.

[sunnyrap]

Changing magnetic-energetic patterns of the earth are working on us all. After you've addressed your own mental-emotional state with meditation, prayer and focus on the ultimate truth that we are immortal beings having a mortal experience and ultimately, have nothing to fear, there's nothing left but to calm the body.

A practical solution to this is some safe, non-habit forming natural formulas:

"Calms" and "Calms Forte" by Hyland, are some small quick dissolve pills you can even give to a baby that help many. You can take them before retiring. Usually found at health and vitamin stores.

"Mid-Nite" is another great natural herbal formula in quick dissolve pills and is what I use. My whole household is using it now as you can use it when you wake up in the middle of the night to quickly get back to sleep. It is available at most supermarket or large retailer (like Walmart).

[scluth]

Indigostar,

I too was having problems sleeping but as it turned out much of my anxiety was being caused by hormone imbalances that got stared with my mind being focued on fear instead of thoughts of love. For me it stared in the mind ,but ended in my body. I found a naturalpathy healer to help put my body back in balance while I refocused my mind on positive, loving thoughts. Remember our positive thoughts are thousands times more powerful than negative ones. Your body was safe before you knew what was going on, it will continue to be safe even more so now that you pray/meditate for protection. Hope this helps and I will ask for your peace of mind as well.

Be well

[Sarahmay]

I was having exactly the same issues, and they were completely solved with magnesium supplements.

You must take the magnesium WITHOUT calcium, no more than 400mg, before bed on an empty stomach.

This is a very simple and inexpensive solution to get your body chemistry back on track...then any meditation or calling in of healers you do will be so much more effective.

[IndigoStar]

I wanted to share the experience I had last night but wasn't sure whether to put it here or in the other thread I started. I decided to put it in the other one but if anyone wouldn't mind reading it I'd like to hear your opinions of what it was and if anyone has experienced a similar thing? (It's post 32)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20087-ET-contact-and-overcoming-psychological-after-effects&p=220550#post220550

And thanks for all the comments and suggestions so far...I'm very grateful for your input and am trying everything!

[Davidallany]

I suggest that you direct your thoughts to visit a Buddhist monastery, you can stay there for a week, meditate and talk to the senior monks about your concerns. Just a phone call away. Check out www.forestsangha.org for locations near your area.

[Rocky_Shorz]

you do know that being an Indigo means you are connected to the Child Indigo's grid...

you are hearing their fear...

just smile, whisper it'll be fine and drift back off into sleep...

you have a bunch of nervous kids just needing reassurance...

do you think a toddler that is scared is going to wander back off to bed after waking from a nightmare without a parent saying it will be fine?

try it... ;)

[Anchor]

You have to get to the root of the problem, which that you feel dis-empowered or defenseless. This is noted by the phrase" Asking for protection". One needs to learn to be in authority of their own protection, having it in the hands of something unseen and external does not inspire the sort of confidence we need. If it did you'd be asleep. Fear really isn't the core value here, its trust and self value.

Deep inside you lack the conviction you are worthy of protection. Lack of trust in the 'highest authority' Call it god, call it whatever you will.

IF one knew and truly felt they were protected the issue would have went away on its own. It hasn't because the actual cause of it hasn't been addressed. The actual wakening up all night is that you are processing this defenselessness, disempowermen,t non-trust scenario at night in a sort of cycle.

You aren't waking up so much that you feel your physical body is in danger, you are wakening up to check to see if its truly being protected.

And like most people who externalize their protection and defense there are some trust issues and self value issues going on in there. Now you are in a cycle of asking for protection, a sort of surface balm, and your lack of conviction is being expressed by wakening all night. The core is self value, self trust. There is a part of you that is not getting a satisfactory response and you are truly not at a trust state with that which you are calling on to provide for you.

When we assume our own empowerment which isn't externalized, but just there all the time, issues of this nature go away. But you have to work through the inner core values that may not be apparent to you. They are apparent to me because you've expressed them. We live in a state of co existence and unconscious acceptance of our core values thats why I always say we can't see our own issues. Other people can though. The only way I was able to heal my own issues is that I was lucky enough to have people brave enough to point them out to me. While that requires a lot of reflection to work them out it also puts us in control of our circumstances.

This post is brilliant.

Read it again and again.

I find interesting the part where it talks about asking for protection..

It clicks with me like this... there is a massive difference between 1) asking for protection, and 2) asking for help (with protection)

When you are asking for help, there is an implicit acknowledgement that you are taking the first steps yourself and thus assistance is available to help you take them. In other words you need to have acted or be in the process of action, for there to be something to help with. If you do nothing, there is nothing to help with.

Asking for help with something you are actively doing is always valid and will work on some level, asking for the job to be done for you is probably never going to work out well.

[nearing]

Lots of good advice here!

My contribution:

1. a heavy metal test and then (inevitably if you are like most people) a detox program, preferably with IV chelation. (a holistic doctor or naturopath can help) This may help with the conception too. :baby:

2. hypnotherapy to get to the core and to dispel it with your own subconscious. I suggest going to Dolores Cannons site to find a therapist.

[sunnyrap]

You have to get to the root of the problem, which that you feel dis-empowered or defenseless. This is noted by the phrase" Asking for protection". One needs to learn to be in authority of their own protection, having it in the hands of something unseen and external does not inspire the sort of confidence we need. If it did you'd be asleep. Fear really isn't the core value here, its trust and self value.

Deep inside you lack the conviction you are worthy of protection. Lack of trust in the 'highest authority' Call it god, call it whatever you will.

IF one knew and truly felt they were protected the issue would have went away on its own. It hasn't because the actual cause of it hasn't been addressed. The actual wakening up all night is that you are processing this defenselessness, disempowermen,t non-trust scenario at night in a sort of cycle.

You aren't waking up so much that you feel your physical body is in danger, you are wakening up to check to see if its truly being protected.

And like most people who externalize their protection and defense there are some trust issues and self value issues going on in there. Now you are in a cycle of asking for protection, a sort of surface balm, and your lack of conviction is being expressed by wakening all night. The core is self value, self trust. There is a part of you that is not getting a satisfactory response and you are truly not at a trust state with that which you are calling on to provide for you.

When we assume our own empowerment which isn't externalized, but just there all the time, issues of this nature go away. But you have to work through the inner core values that may not be apparent to you. They are apparent to me because you've expressed them. We live in a state of co existence and unconscious acceptance of our core values thats why I always say we can't see our own issues. Other people can though. The only way I was able to heal my own issues is that I was lucky enough to have people brave enough to point them out to me. While that requires a lot of reflection to work them out it also puts us in control of our circumstances.

This post is brilliant.

Read it again and again.

I find interesting the part where it talks about asking for protection..

It clicks with me like this... there is a massive difference between 1) asking for protection, and 2) asking for help (with protection)

When you are asking for help, there is an implicit acknowledgement that you are taking the first steps yourself and thus assistance is available to help you take them. In other words you need to have acted or be in the process of action, for there to be something to help with. If you do nothing, there is nothing to help with.

Asking for help with something you are actively doing is always valid and will work on some level, asking for the job to be done for you is probably never going to work out well.

I'm not arguing with any of this as I believe it to be solid advice. However, I would like to add this caveat: These processes CAN yield instant results, but more often than not, getting to the core issues and getting them resolved is a process which can take some time and one can use some outside aids until you do.

[9eagle9]

Yep you need a spotter to help with core values and beliefs .

[IndigoStar]

I suggest that you direct your thoughts to visit a Buddhist monastery, you can stay there for a week, meditate and talk to the senior monks about your concerns. Just a phone call away. Check out www.forestsangha.org for locations near your area.

Why the bold words? Are you trying to point out that I am speaking from ego?
As much as I would love to go to a buddhist monastery I can't at the moment (or near future) because I'm about to open a shop. It's on my 'one day' plan list though!
Thanks for the suggestion anyway

[IndigoStar]

you do know that being an Indigo means you are connected to the Child Indigo's grid...

you are hearing their fear...

just smile, whisper it'll be fine and drift back off into sleep...

you have a bunch of nervous kids just needing reassurance...

do you think a toddler that is scared is going to wander back off to bed after waking from a nightmare without a parent saying it will be fine?

try it... ;)

Lovely message - thank you! Reminds me also of what Eckhart Tolle talks about regarding the 'inner child.' I wonder if I'm picking up on the 'fear energy' around the world as a result of the wars etc going on right now. I guess I need to turn the fear into love and send it back out there into the world : )

[IndigoStar]

This post is brilliant. Read it again and again. I find interesting the part where it talks about asking for protection..

It clicks with me like this... there is a massive difference between 1) asking for protection, and 2) asking for help (with protection)

When you are asking for help, there is an implicit acknowledgement that you are taking the first steps yourself and thus assistance is available to help you take them. In other words you need to have acted or be in the process of action, for there to be something to help with. If you do nothing, there is nothing to help with.

Asking for help with something you are actively doing is always valid and will work on some level, asking for the job to be done for you is probably never going to work out well.

Great comments - thank you. That post did help me a lot. Last night I managed to get to sleep much easier by thinking about its content and reminding myself of self-empowerment and telling myself to have faith and trust. I did wake up about 4 times but the point is I was able to go back to sleep easier and faster and I didn't feel as scared as I have other nights. Hopefully I've started on the path to recovery! Thanks to everyone that helped!

I had an interesting dream where there were floods (hope it wasn't a future vision!) and I was psychologically strong and had to help people. I rescued my nephew because he was stranded, despite everyone telling me it was too dangerous and to leave him. I'm sure it had a meaning - any interpretations?

Just got 10:01 on the clock! : )

[IndigoStar]

Lots of good advice here!
There surely is - I hope it's helping others aswell as me!


1. a heavy metal test and then (inevitably if you are like most people) a detox program, preferably with IV chelation. (a holistic doctor or naturopath can help) This may help with the conception too. :baby:

2. hypnotherapy to get to the core and to dispel it with your own subconscious. I suggest going to Dolores Cannons site to find a therapist.

Am planning to do both of these things. It will be especially worth it if it solves the pregnancy issue too! Love the cute baby smiley, reminds me of Maggie from the Simpsons how it sucks its dummy (translation - pacifier for US readers!)

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I'm not arguing with any of this as I believe it to be solid advice. However, I would like to add this caveat: These processes CAN yield instant results, but more often than not, getting to the core issues and getting them resolved is a process which can take some time and one can use some outside aids until you do.

I'm finding both short-term and long-term suggestions useful and I think that both are required. I've found every single post so far to be really useful, so glad I came here! : )

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Yep you need a spotter to help with core values and beliefs .

I've nominated you for that role ;)

[Some Bloke]

Hi IndigoStar, I have the same problem and have found that mediation makes it worse.
The one thing I would strongly recomend is to 'clear' the house and draw a circle of protection around it before going to bed (for whatever reason)
Imagine the heart chakra getting bigger and drawing in Gods pure love, then shoot this energy down the right hand (put left hand on solar plexus) holding right hand out like a gun do 3 clockwise rotations , breathing out on each turn see green/ blue fire sweeping the space clear, then draw a circle in the same fire around the space (house flat room whatever) with your minds eye.
Finally imagine a dark shroud being drawn over the top to render you invisible.
When you wake up in the night is it always an odd time like 5.15, 6.16, 3.13 ?

[IndigoStar]

Hi IndigoStar, I have the same problem and have found that mediation makes it worse.
The one thing I would strongly recomend is to 'clear' the house and draw a circle of protection around it before going to bed (for whatever reason)
Imagine the heart chakra getting bigger and drawing in Gods pure love, then shoot this energy down the right hand (put left hand on solar plexus) holding right hand out like a gun do 3 clockwise rotations , breathing out on each turn see green/ blue fire sweeping the space clear, then draw a circle in the same fire around the space (house flat room whatever) with your minds eye.
Finally imagine a dark shroud being drawn over the top to render you invisible.
When you wake up in the night is it always an odd time like 5.15, 6.16, 3.13 ?

Hi,
It's nice to hear that I'm not alone with this problem. A few others seem to be dealing with the same stuff.
Yeah I usually put reiki symbols around the house, room, me etc and despite the fact I'm not keen on the idea because I think it is somewhat disempowering (suggests I am not enough) I do find it comforts me. I am also conscious of becoming reliant on such techniques so I try not to use them if I'm feeling brave. Otherwise it becomes a ritual that could get difficult to break.
Thanks for the protection suggestion - I like the one about becoming invisible! Not sure that could fool the zetas though?
And yes I ALWAYS get those weird numbers when I wake up! What's that all about? I also find that I wake up at exactly the same times every night - eg 4:04
I get those numbers almost every hour throughout the day too - 11:11, 12:21, 13:13 etc etc it's cool but weird! lol

[Jendayi]

maybe it has already been suggested (my apologies if i missed it) but have you ever thought about surrendering to your fears?
just dive into them.. emerge yourself in it.. only by going through things, by fully conscious experiencing our fears, can we move beyond them..
face your fear and find your freedom.. you are eternal consciousness... so in the end.. you have nothing to lose.. just things to let go of... and it's worth losing a couple of nights of sleep doing this...
don't know if this helps... it helps me every time though..
good luck!

[IndigoStar]

maybe it has already been suggested (my apologies if i missed it) but have you ever thought about surrendering to your fears?
just dive into them.. emerge yourself in it.. only by going through things, by fully conscious experiencing our fears, can we move beyond them..
face your fear and find your freedom.. you are eternal consciousness... so in the end.. you have nothing to lose.. just things to let go of... and it's worth losing a couple of nights of sleep doing this...
don't know if this helps... it helps me every time though..
good luck!

What great advice! I do feel I need to do this but have never attempted such a task before. Could you give me some more specific guidelines? Would it work if I did it during the day when I'm not scared or do I need to explore at night when the terror sets in? If I need to face up to my fear would that mean asking the zetas to come so that I can confront them? omg not sure I'm up to that!
And how exactly do I go about it? Would it be to feel the fear and accept it, eg just tell myself ok that is the fear and it's ok? Do I need to question myself eg, what exactly am I scared of? That kind of thing? I would appreciate a step-by-step guide type of thing if it's possible?! And by the way I love your sig line : )
If I really followed the advice in that then I wouldn't fear the zetas half as much I'm sure!

[Flasky]

Hey Indigo - how often do you reckon you are been visited?

Do you think its more often then not - you are just aware of it at times because you actually wake up?

...Or have you noticed a pattern as to why and how they show up? Like...Something to do with the moon or perhaps something to do with your menstrual cycle even? Does it matter how the weather is? Do they prefer when its most cold or rainy, or humid or hot....And do you find they are there always about 2 AM?

Also...Have you associated any pains, physical or mental, as to before and after the came? Like...you had a pain before they came and after it was gone or vice versa..

Oh and finally...Could you describe were you live? Apartment full of people, houses everywhere, busy street, new residential area/old-if on a land property how big is it? Non busy street, quiet place, just a one level house - middle of nowhere...so lol describe haha!

:p Sorry for the load of questions I was just wondering!!...comparing notes.

*hug*

[IndigoStar]

Hey Indigo - how often do you reckon you are been visited?

No idea but I think a lot! When I got regressed by Mary Rodwell it came out that the first visit was when I was 8 years old. However, I can't be sure of that information - is hypnosis 100% reliable? I don't know! Maybe the information that came out was just random stuff from my sub-conscious or imagination?


Do you think its more often then not - you are just aware of it at times because you actually wake up?
It's difficult to say. I have no accurate way of determining if they have been. I often wake up with a jolt and see things floating in my room. They look like pieces of technology, cameras etc and I feel that they are observing me. I've started to notice a correlation and I think that I get visited when I see those. My friend suggested that maybe the ETs send in the technology to scan the room and check me before they come in and possibly after they leave to check on me. They might do this to look for obstacles in the room etc so that their visit runs smoothly. Of course this is all speculation!


...Or have you noticed a pattern as to why and how they show up? Like...Something to do with the moon or perhaps something to do with your menstrual cycle even? Does it matter how the weather is? Do they prefer when its most cold or rainy, or humid or hot....And do you find they are there always about 2 AM?

I haven't noticed any pattern related to these things, but if it's raining I tell myself they won't come because of the bad weather haha (just a way of calming myself really!). I have only actually seen them in the flesh once. I have had vivid dreams that I was pregnant quite a few times so I don't know if they are harvesting my eggs. I've also woken up with pain in the genital area. I don't know if the visits are connected to my difficulty in getting pregnant.


Also...Have you associated any pains, physical or mental, as to before and after the came? Like...you had a pain before they came and after it was gone or vice versa..

I've had pains in my nose, like something has been put in there. At one time I couldn't even touch my nose for about a month it was so sore. Yesterday I had a very strange sensation in my nose, like it was growing on the end! I've never had that before. I often wake up with little scar marks on my feet/ankles and they disappear by the afternoon. I get a lot of headaches which I don't know if it's related. Once I had a very vivid dream that I was on a massive craft and there were ET kids with massive eyes of beautiful colours that were really bright and they were all around me healing me. Maybe it was just a dream? It's very difficult to quantify my experiences. I'm not aware of ever having a specific pain that's been healed. I'm never even 100% sure if I've been visited or not (except the 1 time when I saw them recently).

Sometimes I wake up with a sensation like I'm choking. When this happens I often dream that I'm eating chewing gum and it's stuck in my throat and I can't breath. When I wake up my throat is sore like something has been stuck inside. Since the experience in Germany when I heard them pumping air into my friend I think that this sensation is from something they stick down my throat to pump air into me and bring me conscious again.


Oh and finally...Could you describe were you live? Apartment full of people, houses everywhere, busy street, new residential area/old-if on a land property how big is it? Non busy street, quiet place, just a one level house - middle of nowhere...so lol describe haha!

I live on a farm in a remote area. At night it's very dark and isolated. On Friday we are moving to a normal street in the town and I can't wait! I think it will help me to feel at ease having people around. But before living here we lived in an apartment in a city and I think I was still visited then. When I was regressed I saw visits that had happened whilst I was there. (I lived there when I had the sore nose lasting a month).


:p Sorry for the load of questions I was just wondering!!...comparing notes. *hug*

I'm happy to compare notes. Please let me know if you have any similar experiences to mine! : )

[Marikins]

Hi Indigo,

You sound like an extremely psychically sensitive person. As a sensitive you not only have your own personal fears to contend with, but also the group consciousness. Just imagine what is going through the heads of people who thought they had the cat by the tail and just found out they were the cat! The group consciousness is in freak out mode right now. I can feel it as I write like a huge pressure that makes we want to panic right out of my skin. So I ask myself "Does this feeling belong to me or not?" If it is not yours, tell it to be gone. If it is yours, love yourself and take yourself by the hand and dive right in, as others have said. The part of you that is large and in charge (the Higher Self, or god spark of many dimensions) can and will help you out. Your Higher Self can be referenced in the physical body just above your heart.

Also I have noticed every time I advance a little, or open my mind to a new stage of awareness, my ego comes running up to me with all kind of panic scenarios or even general uneasiness. So when you hit a new level of awareness, your ego will start up again because awareness is new and threatening, so it's a little of the here-we-go-again self talk that can help you through it. A lot of ascending folks are routinely waking up at 3am fully charged wondering what the heck?

And BTW you are not "wrong" to be fearful, I think it is sensible in light of what you have experienced, you just want to face it and manage it and get it out of your way. You have better things to do, as you mentioned.;)

@Flasky - you crack me up!

Best,
Mary

[IndigoStar]

Hi Marikins, Thanks for your reply.

You sound like an extremely psychically sensitive person. As a sensitive you not only have your own personal fears to contend with, but also the group consciousness.

Yes I pick on other peoples' emotions and I feel them. I went to the town centre at the weekend and I came home with a demon inside me! I can't cope emotionally being around large groups of people. I've heard it's a good idea to shield yourself with a protective bubble but I'm not sure if that's a good method because I think it is creating separation between myself and others, when in fact we are all connected, all one.


Just imagine what is going through the heads of people who thought they had the cat by the tail and just found out they were the cat! The group consciousness is in freak out mode right now. I can feel it as I write like a huge pressure that makes we want to panic right out of my skin. So I ask myself "Does this feeling belong to me or not?" If it is not yours, tell it to be gone. If it is yours, love yourself and take yourself by the hand and dive right in, as others have said. The part of you that is large and in charge (the Higher Self, or god spark of many dimensions) can and will help you out. Your Higher Self can be referenced in the physical body just above your heart.
Yeah I mentioned earlier that I'm not sure if all the fear is mine or if I'm picking up on the collective emotion. Anyway I know that at least a part of it is mine so I'll send it some love and rather than telling it it's bad and should go away (which is what I have been doing!) I'll welcome it and nurture it and thank it for trying to protect me.


Also I have noticed every time I advance a little, or open my mind to a new stage of awareness, my ego comes running up to me with all kind of panic scenarios or even general uneasiness. So when you hit a new level of awareness, your ego will start up again because awareness is new and threatening, so it's a little of the here-we-go-again self talk that can help you through it. A lot of ascending folks are routinely waking up at 3am fully charged wondering what the heck?
Yeah I have noticed that too actually. I found it interesting that the zeta conscious encounter and this fear that ensued happened right after I did the reconnective healing course when I was supposedly immersed in high frequency energies for a week and had my 12 dna strands reconnected. I'm wondering if that brought out my inner demons that need to be healed.


And BTW you are not "wrong" to be fearful, I think it is sensible in light of what you have experienced, you just want to face it and manage it and get it out of your way. You have better things to do, as you mentioned.;)
Thanks, it's important for me to remember that! I think I've been conditioned to believe that it's wrong and bad to be scared but at least now I've acknowledged that, it will help me to undo the conditioning and work through it.


@Flasky - you crack me up!

Me too - you have great energy flasky! : )

[Flasky]

I'm happy to compare notes. Please let me know if you have any similar experiences to mine! : )

No actually, I haven't reached your level of experiences. I am not sure if its because you had the session with Mary (btw I have emailed her and still waiting on a reply, fingers crossed) or perhaps you have been more "aware" for a longer time than I have - which I find very probable as I have just awakened, gah! But I am not sure how much that is relevant.

I guess me asking you all of this is also to kinda get a sense of what I should be 'looking out for'. Ever since the light/portal on my wall with the sensation of someone present in the room and seeing my Aura nothing as visible as that happened to me. The rest is feeling like I am always watched...Especially at night. And the pop of lights I see at the corner of my eyes.

And the lack of sleep at night as a consequence....but to be honest, because nothing has really 'happened' to my knowledge ever since, sleep is easier to me -- but no less terrifying. I've developed an internal alarm clock and ever since it hits 1 AM I will wake up EVERY HOUR till 4 am...as if I am suspecting 'activities' to be going on around those hours and my body wakes to go "AHA!!!! CAUGHT YA!!!" (*Zeta jumps back dropping high tech equipment*) :P

I'd be very freaked out living on a farm.....Even if very beautiful - and great night sky views! I live in an average suburb, houses all around...But it gets SO QUIET here in the wee hours that it makes me think that the Zeta's would park their ship anyhow and be like "Oh whatever, everyone's sleeping we might as well..." ...? And you saying that you've lived in an apartment/house were it had other people around and still getting visitations before...Proves that these Zetas have no fear! Gnaah...!

But of any other experiences - perhaps I am simply just not 'aware' of them yet. 'Cause every time I read what you have to say...A part of me can't help but follow with some sort of 'seriousness'. Like I just PAY ATTENTION - and I resonate with you plenty as you know.

I am so grateful that you joined Avalon and that I have 'met' you! (Lol had to edit this bit - got too carried away with my energies....Apologies people!)

P.S...And btw, good luck opening your shop! What kind of shop is it?




@Flasky - you crack me up!


Lmfao!? Well...Glad that I did! :roll:

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@Flasky - you crack me up!

Me too - you have great energy flasky! : )

LOL! Thank you! :o

[Marikins]

Yes I pick on other peoples' emotions and I feel them. I went to the town centre at the weekend and I came home with a demon inside me! I can't cope emotionally being around large groups of people. I've heard it's a good idea to shield yourself with a protective bubble but I'm not sure if that's a good method because I think it is creating separation between myself and others, when in fact we are all connected, all one.

Yes, the traditional advice has been the protective bubble, but recently I read that asserting your own vibration, your own self hood is even more effective. And that makes sense to me; instead of wandering around being receptive to hitchhikers we should just assert what we are about. If we identify with being receptive to other beings (I've been there and still get the occasional) then that is our vibration and that is what we will draw. If we instead identify with something else, say being a musician or great cookie baker, then we send a different signal. Guess it is Law of Attraction and Law of Vibration.

[IndigoStar]

No actually, I haven't reached your level of experiences. I am not sure if its because you had the session with Mary (btw I have emailed her and still waiting on a reply, fingers crossed) or perhaps you have been more "aware" for a longer time than I have - which I find very probable as I have just awakened, gah! But I am not sure how much that is relevant.

Well I had the session with Mary because I'd been having experiences very similar to what you describe (seeing flashes of light, webs, feeling of being watched, memories of life on another planet, seeing auras etc). It's strange that she hasn't replied to you. I'll try e-mailing her and see if I get a response. I hope she wasn't affecting by those floods! This all started for me about 6 years ago and it's gradually got more and more intense.


I guess me asking you all of this is also to kinda get a sense of what I should be 'looking out for'. Ever since the light/portal on my wall with the sensation of someone present in the room and seeing my Aura nothing as visible as that happened to me. The rest is feeling like I am always watched...Especially at night. And the pop of lights I see at the corner of my eyes.

Feel free to ask whatever you want. I'm happy to answer anything I can : ) Everything you described sounds 'normal' to me and I've experienced it all. Don't be afraid to mention something because it sounds too weird - I doubt you could freak me out! lol


And the lack of sleep at night as a consequence....but to be honest, because nothing has really 'happened' to my knowledge ever since, sleep is easier to me -- but no less terrifying. I've developed an internal alarm clock and ever since it hits 1 AM I will wake up EVERY HOUR till 4 am...as if I am suspecting 'activities' to be going on around those hours and my body wakes to go "AHA!!!! CAUGHT YA!!!" (*Zeta jumps back dropping high tech equipment*) :P

Yeah I have that same hourly internal alarm clock - wish I could switch it off! Exactly the same feeling I get. Maybe I should try the humour approach and yell that at them if I wake up and see them leaning over me! They wouldn't be expecting that haha


I'd be very freaked out living on a farm.....Even if very beautiful - and great night sky views! I live in an average suburb, houses all around...But it gets SO QUIET here in the wee hours that it makes me think that the Zeta's would park their ship anyhow and be like "Oh whatever, everyone's sleeping we might as well..." ...? And you saying that you've lived in an apartment/house were it had other people around and still getting visitations before...Proves that these Zetas have no fear! Gnaah...!

Yeah it is beautiful but spooky at night. Being around so much nature has heightened my sensitivity a lot too. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing. Probably neither. It probably just is. When you wake up in the quiet hours of the morning look outside your bedroom window and watch for ufos. It's the best time to see them! And have your camera ready just in case! I think the zetas can just put groups of people into sleep states where they won't wake up so they are free to come and go as they please. I wonder if they do have any fears? That would be a good question for onyx!


But of any other experiences - perhaps I am simply just not 'aware' of them yet. 'Cause every time I read what you have to say...A part of me can't help but follow with some sort of 'seriousness'. Like I just PAY ATTENTION - and I resonate with you plenty as you know.

Give it time...they will come! Have you watched the Matias de Stefano vids? (there's a thread on it). If not watch them and see if they have any effect on you. (There's a great 8 parter). The whole thing gave me memory flashes, goosebumps and overwhelming emotion that actually made me cry! I'd be interested to hear if it has/had any effect on you too.


I am so grateful that you joined Avalon and that I have 'met' you! (Lol had to edit this bit - got too carried away with my energies....Apologies people!)
I'm so happy I joined too and that I met you : )
Don't worry about getting carried away. I don't think you could bore us (well not me anyway). I find your posts very interesting! So no more editing!!!


P.S...And btw, good luck opening your shop! What kind of shop is it?

Thanks, I'll let you know how it goes. We're selling Italian food (my husband is Italian). I'm supposed to be doing work for it but can't focus because my head is always up in the stars : S
Not sure I'm gonna make the best business woman! I'm more focused on avalon topics!




@Flasky - you crack me up!


Lmfao!? Well...Glad that I did! :roll:

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[9eagle9]

If you clear out your own self hood, or rather clean up the inner landscape there's really nothing for hitchhikers to attach to. Same for being exhausted by your own empathy. We tend to tie up our energy and be attracted to people who have the same wounds as us. Wound identification. We are attracted to people who have the same wounds.

[IndigoStar]

Yes, the traditional advice has been the protective bubble, but recently I read that asserting your own vibration, your own self hood is even more effective. And that makes sense to me; instead of wandering around being receptive to hitchhikers we should just assert what we are about. If we identify with being receptive to other beings (I've been there and still get the occasional) then that is our vibration and that is what we will draw. If we instead identify with something else, say being a musician or great cookie baker, then we send a different signal. Guess it is Law of Attraction and Law of Vibration.

So affirmations would work well with this? ie. "I only absorb energy from positive people." "I only attract enlightened people into my life." "I am only receptive to positive energies." That kind of thing? Interesting idea - thanks!

[IndigoStar]

If you clear out your own self hood, or rather clean up the inner landscape there's really nothing for hitchhikers to attach to. Same for being exhausted by your own empathy. We tend to tie up our energy and be attracted to people who have the same wounds as us. Wound identification. We are attracted to people who have the same wounds.

My feeling after being in the town among the crowds wasn't that I'd picked up a negative energy from a particular person, it was that I had been engulfed in a giant chaotic energy field that affected my inner being. When I got home I had to release it by shouting really loud. When I walk I feel the people pushing into me and crowding around me and it suffocates me. I just want to fly up into the sky and breathe or just push them all away with a giant force and get them out of my personal space. It's like getting people claustrophobia! omg it sounds like I have so many issues! I hope I'm not coming across as a total psycho!

Maybe once I clean up the fear from inside me I won't get affected by the crowds anymore! If that's what happened there must be an awful lot of frightened people out there!

[Marikins]

So affirmations would work well with this? ie. "I only absorb energy from positive people." "I only attract enlightened people into my life." "I am only receptive to positive energies." That kind of thing? Interesting idea - thanks!
Affirmations are a start. 9eagle9 is correct. The spirits/demons/entities are attracted to a similar vibration in you. For example, this is not you, just an example, a live person who is hopeless will attract hopeless spirits. It can get even much more specific. Your signature vibration is created with your every thought and action. If you do decide who you want to be, affirmations are a good start, but it will be your thoughts, feelings and actions that create your dominate, or signature vibration. If you are right with yourself there is nothing for them to grab onto.

But affirmations are a good starting place, not so much that they are effective, but they start you on the journey of deciding who you want to be.
You can also help yourself out with good energy practices to help daily reinforce your energy so there are no chinks in your aura.

I think the best protection of all is to know yourself, love yourself and love others. Sounds mushy but is best advice in my bag of tricks and I am still working on it.

[Marikins]

I had been engulfed in a giant chaotic energy field that affected my inner being

LOL you are one quick writer, IndigoStar! So if we visualize what happens in a crowd, it's like their energy, because there are more of them, is overwhelming your energy. I really understand how you feel because you are obvs a natural empath. So your energy is naturally porous and you are receptive to other energy. I get that too exactly as you describe if I am not attentive, not in the present moment and in my power. The moment I realize that I am becoming overwhelmed I get quiet, go right into my heart center, find myself, and radiate my power. I then turn my attention to everyone with great love (I sound quite like a fool I know) without empathy but compassion. This is a fine point made earlier that is important. The compassion is a love that is detached, allowing everyone their own individual journey. Compassion is "I get you, I love you, I allow you to be who you are" empathy is "I feel your pain".

So as a "victim" of the wave of emotion I was overwhelmed. As me taking my power, I contribute, I hope God willing, to peace.
Well I think I have blathered quite enough and should do some work today. Much love to you and all.

[Pagan]

Try a spike mat! I'll find it really usefull to lie on before sleep or if woken up "too early". Very relaxing, and way easier to fall asleep again.

Good luck! :)

[IndigoStar]

I had been engulfed in a giant chaotic energy field that affected my inner being

LOL you are one quick writer, IndigoStar! So if we visualize what happens in a crowd, it's like their energy, because there are more of them, is overwhelming your energy. I really understand how you feel because you are obvs a natural empath. So your energy is naturally porous and you are receptive to other energy. I get that too exactly as you describe if I am not attentive, not in the present moment and in my power. The moment I realize that I am becoming overwhelmed I get quiet, go right into my heart center, find myself, and radiate my power. I then turn my attention to everyone with great love (I sound quite like a fool I know) without empathy but compassion. This is a fine point made earlier that is important. The compassion is a love that is detached, allowing everyone their own individual journey. Compassion is "I get you, I love you, I allow you to be who you are" empathy is "I feel your pain".

So as a "victim" of the wave of emotion I was overwhelmed. As me taking my power, I contribute, I hope God willing, to peace.
Well I think I have blathered quite enough and should do some work today. Much love to you and all.

Well I have to head into town in a little while so I shall try the 'staying present' technique and see if it helps. My natural way is to be very slow with everything (to the point where I frustrate people! - excluding my avalon forum writing evidently lol!) but I get caught up in a wave of rushy panic in the crowds. They are all trying to move so quickly and pushing around me and I guess it throws my calm, slow nature off balance! The other thing I find is that there is so much going on (lights, people rushing, shop windows, cars etc etc) that I can't focus. It's like I can't take everything in around me and I go into a kind of daze with everything spinning around me. Have you had that feeling too?

What you described doesn't sound foolish to me at all, in fact in sounds very wise and reminds me a lot of what Eckhart Tolle talks about. I really like your explanation of the difference between empathy and compassion. I haven't pondered that thought before and I think it's something positive for me to focus on and move out of the victim stance. It just came to me that this could be related to the personal empowerment issue that 9eagle9 talked about earlier. Believing my own strength and power to overcome these challenges.

[IndigoStar]

Try a spike mat! I'll find it really usefull to lie on before sleep or if woken up "too early". Very relaxing, and way easier to fall asleep again.

Good luck! :)

I'd never heard of this - I had to google it! I think I've just found my next birthday present! It doesn't look like it would be comfortable but the description sounds amazing and I really want to try it. Thanks Pagan : )

[Pagan]

It doesn't look like it would be comfortable

It is hurting slightly at start, but soon after, really relaxing

Ps let me know when you tried it ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

you do know that being an Indigo means you are connected to the Child Indigo's grid...

you are hearing their fear...

just smile, whisper it'll be fine and drift back off into sleep...

you have a bunch of nervous kids just needing reassurance...

do you think a toddler that is scared is going to wander back off to bed after waking from a nightmare without a parent saying it will be fine?

try it... ;)

Lovely message - thank you! Reminds me also of what Eckhart Tolle talks about regarding the 'inner child.' I wonder if I'm picking up on the 'fear energy' around the world as a result of the wars etc going on right now. I guess I need to turn the fear into love and send it back out there into the world : )

Well that is a different way to think of it, your inner child is talking with others, but they look up to you as an adult.

You are one of the "Targets" of the fear mongering alternative media community...

the Indigos create reality so when you "know" everything is going to be fine they see and create it...

now if you are positive we're in trouble, 500 foot tsunamis, radiation spread around the world... It scares the kids because that is a reality you are seeing...

if they can keep your mind spinning, they can use this against the indigo strength...

all you have to do is see a flowering field... a river... ocean waves softly washing up on the beach...

the fear will flow away...

[kersley]

I know what you mean, I had the same problems. I dealt with my problems by changing what i was reading. Same thing happened to my partner, She was having nightmares after reading a certain book.
I think when you read a certain book, it plays out in your dreams and your subconscious can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
This is a good time for you to change for the better, You should read positive things and manifest your hearts desire. Give Avalon a break for a week or two.

Go out into the garden and water the plants, feed the birds, listen to them sing sweet songs. Say hello to the sun every morning, Before you retire to bed, go outside and have a cigarette look up see the stars. Remembering, you are a member of the family of light.
Catch a spider and release it outside. Feel how grateful that little spider is for your kindness.

I could go on all day, But emotions would only make me cry. so I'll better stop now.

Let me know how you get on?

[IndigoStar]

Well that is a different way to think of it, your inner child is talking with others, but they look up to you as an adult.

I think most of the indigos are adults now. I think the younger kids have a higher vibrational frequency (crystal kids). Anyway last night I tried calming and reassuring the 'inner child' whatever it may be.


You are one of the "Targets" of the fear mongering alternative media community...
Why do you think I'm a target? You are probably right - I am too gullible and believe everything...I just can't comprehend people making stuff up just to scared others.


the Indigos create reality so when you "know" everything is going to be fine they see and create it...
Not only the indigos create reality...EVERYBODY creates reality!


now if you are positive we're in trouble, 500 foot tsunamis, radiation spread around the world... It scares the kids because that is a reality you are seeing...
It was just a dream I had and it wasn't a 500 foot tsunami! It was just a flood. That isn't necessarily the reality I'm seeing - just 1 dream! It may just have been a dream, it may have a been a possible future, that doesn't mean it is going to happen! I don't focus on that vision during my waking hours when I am in control of my sub-concious mind. I am trying to create a future of peace and happiness!


if they can keep your mind spinning, they can use this against the indigo strength...
Yes my strength has been weakened recently - we are back to the 'empowerment' discussion. I am trying to remind myself of that constantly and also of the reason for my incarnation.


all you have to do is see a flowering field... a river... ocean waves softly washing up on the beach...
That's a nice image - I will try to think of it when the fear creeps in!


the fear will flow away...
goodbye fear! : )

[IndigoStar]

I know what you mean, I had the same problems. I dealt with my problems by changing what i was reading. Same thing happened to my partner, She was having nightmares after reading a certain book.
Yes that's true, I realised the same happens to me - it's worse if I read about or watch negative things before bed. I can basically only watch disney and romantic comedy movies and read about happy things.


I think when you read a certain book, it plays out in your dreams and your subconscious can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy.
Yes and the same thing goes for movies.


This is a good time for you to change for the better, You should read positive things and manifest your hearts desire. Give Avalon a break for a week or two.
Yes it is...I am in the process of creating a new me - one which isn't scared of zetas! It's taking time to break down the old pattern but I think I'm getting there (with the help and support from all you great avalonians!) Give avalon a break?? NOOOOooooooooo! lol I need to communicate with people who understand my version of reality in order to keep my sanity! I am limiting it to day-time though so as not to fill my mind with too much alien talk before bed!


Go out into the garden and water the plants, feed the birds, listen to them sing sweet songs. Say hello to the sun every morning, Before you retire to bed, go outside and have a cigarette look up see the stars. Remembering, you are a member of the family of light. Catch a spider and release it outside. Feel how grateful that little spider is for your kindness.

Garden, birds singing, sun shining - yes, yes and YES! Cigarette - yucky, yucky big NO! Looking up at the stars - one of my favourite things to do but inevitably turns into a UFO watching fest, leading back to zeta thoughts so not wise! Family of Light...YESSSSSSS! So proud to be a member of that family! Catching a spider...I'll pass on that one too if you don't mind! Maybe you could tempt me with a butterfly or ladybird ; )


I could go on all day, But emotions would only make me cry. so I'll better stop now. Let me know how you get on?

Crying is healthy - let it all out! : )
I'm slowly improving but I need to get to the root of the problem to cure it completely and I think hypnotic regression is going to be a key part of that. We're moving house on Friday and opening a shop in 2 weeks so it isn't going to happen really soon but once I get round to it I'll let you all know the results! In the meantime I'm using all the techniques here and they are proving effective so thanks everyone : )

[kersley]

@ IndigoStar.

It's very unlikely you'll catch a butterfly inside to release outside lol. What I meant about giving Avalon a break, Too much alien talk, too much comet Elenin hitting earth, Too much talk about reptilian, Too much talk about who controls us. The list goes on and on. If you don't take a break, it will consume you. At least that's my view.

You are a truly bless person. Soon you'll realise that you know the answers to many questions. You will amaze yourself and others by what you know. Look out for the 2 beings that will manifest themselves ... Don't be afraid, They come because you are waking up. That's right Son. It's time to wake up.

oops... almost forgot. watch out for the severe headaches. you won't sleep for days and pain killers don't work either.

[ulli]

IndigoStar I had nearly a whole year when I went through the same thing...floaters in the room, waking up with the sensation of a fine long drill bring inserted inside my brain and making the sound of a dentist's drill and seeing green sparks flying in front of my inner eye, all in a fraction of a second,....

That's when I joined my first forum...the original ufotruth forum, run by Dr. Richard Boylan. Google him...he now works mostly with starchildren projects...
Anyway he told us about the zeta's adherence to strict protocols...in other words...
if you address them in a formal manner and tell them to stop visiting you or to come back during the day so you can get some sleep, they will obey.
They have no other choice, it's how they are programmed.

I did it and immediately the nightly disturbances stopped.
After a couple of months I noticed I missed them, but now, ten years later I'm glad that I'm no longer being interfered with Although the full moon tonight won't let me sleep which is how this letter came about...I looked at your thread.

[Flasky]

....Although the full moon tonight won't let me sleep....

Why is that?

[ulli]

....Although the full moon tonight won't let me sleep....

Why is that?

It happens periodically...been going on all of my life...
Some full moons don't bother me...

When I wanted to get to the bottom of all these mysteries that normal science didn't have any answers for I stumbled across astrology. Been studying it ever since...many answers are there.

The tension field that has the sun at one end at the moon at the other with earth in the middle can affect organisms...
A simplified way of looking at it is the gravitational pulls, just as the ocean tides are regulated by the moon's phases so are the waters in our brain cells also having tides, affecting our behavior.

[IndigoStar]

It's very unlikely you'll catch a butterfly inside to release outside lol.

lol yeah I couldn't think of anything cute that would fit the situation!


What I meant about giving Avalon a break, Too much alien talk, too much comet Elenin hitting earth, Too much talk about reptilian, Too much talk about who controls us. The list goes on and on. If you don't take a break, it will consume you. At least that's my view.

Oh yes I totally get you. It drives me to the edge sometimes. I've even reached points where I've decided to become a 'normal' zombie-type walking, unconscious human, but that tends to last all of about 10 minutes before my mind is back to the stars! I do try to steer myself clear of the reptilian/disaster scenario aspects though because they do have a negative effect on me.


You are a truly bless person. Soon you'll realise that you know the answers to many questions. You will amaze yourself and others by what you know.

Thank you, and yes I believe I (like everyone) do hold the answers to everything within.


Look out for the 2 beings that will manifest themselves ... Don't be afraid, They come because you are waking up. That's right Son. It's time to wake up.

????? This part of your post has freaked me out a bit! Is it a joke? A test to show me I shouldn't believe everything I read? This is rather counter-productive to helping me sleep - telling me that 2 beings will come!! If this is serious I need to know more please - where did you get this info? Who are they? What type of beings?
By the way, I'm female but I obviously have quite male energy because I'm often mistaken for a guy!
I think I'm already awake!?


oops... almost forgot. watch out for the severe headaches. you won't sleep for days and pain killers don't work either.

Sorry don't understand what you mean. I do get bad headaches but don't take pain killers because I don't like chemical medicine. How can I watch out for them?

[Flasky]

Erm...just to butt in........I always sensed you were a woman.....! In my view, you do not send male energy.

[IndigoStar]

IndigoStar I had nearly a whole year when I went through the same thing...floaters in the room, waking up with the sensation of a fine long drill bring inserted inside my brain and making the sound of a dentist's drill and seeing green sparks flying in front of my inner eye, all in a fraction of a second,....

That's when I joined my first forum...the original ufotruth forum, run by Dr. Richard Boylan. Google him...he now works mostly with starchildren projects...
Anyway he told us about the zeta's adherence to strict protocols...in other words...
if you address them in a formal manner and tell them to stop visiting you or to come back during the day so you can get some sleep, they will obey.
They have no other choice, it's how they are programmed.

I did it and immediately the nightly disturbances stopped.
After a couple of months I noticed I missed them, but now, ten years later I'm glad that I'm no longer being interfered with Although the full moon tonight won't let me sleep which is how this letter came about...I looked at your thread.

Hi Ulli,
Thanks for the reply. Yeah I'm already familiar with Dr Boylan's work but maybe I'll take another look at his site. It's a while since I visited it.
I have told the zetas not to come back at night and asked them for a daytime visit. So far nothing has appeared during the day! I've asked Pleiadians to come during the day too, but nothing : (
I haven't had any conscious night visits since my request so not sure if they have stuck to the protocol but I like to believe so.

[ulli]

They never showed up during the day for me either..

They can be seen only when the brainwave is on Alpha, that brief moment between waking and sleeping
Since the whole phenomenon is other dimensional...
If you are moving house and opening a shop you may want to close a few channels now anyway...

conserve all of your energy for your 3 D activities for a while

[IndigoStar]

They never showed up during the day for me either..
Maybe it's too risky for them to be seen during the day.


They can be seen only when the brainwave is on Alpha, that brief moment between waking and sleeping
Since the whole phenomenon is other dimensional...

Oh that explains why I see all this weird stuff at night!


If you are moving house and opening a shop you may want to close a few channels now anyway...conserve all of your energy for your 3 D activities for a while

I should definitely do that! The problem is I don't really want to. I'm too excited by the other-worldly phenomena and am kind of obsessed with everything I'm missing 'up there.' It feels like there's a whole other world to be exploring and I'm stuck here, trapped on earth missing out! Yes I know, I need to focus on the present moment ; ) but things down here seem to be trivial and it's so frustrating not being able to get on a spaceship and have a fly round the universe and visit the other places and beings that I know are out there!

Of course then they come to visit me (on my request) and what do I do? I tell them to get away from me and freak out!!! Insane - yes I know! lol

[Jendayi]

maybe it has already been suggested (my apologies if i missed it) but have you ever thought about surrendering to your fears?
just dive into them.. emerge yourself in it.. only by going through things, by fully conscious experiencing our fears, can we move beyond them..
face your fear and find your freedom.. you are eternal consciousness... so in the end.. you have nothing to lose.. just things to let go of... and it's worth losing a couple of nights of sleep doing this...
don't know if this helps... it helps me every time though..
good luck!

What great advice! I do feel I need to do this but have never attempted such a task before. Could you give me some more specific guidelines? Would it work if I did it during the day when I'm not scared or do I need to explore at night when the terror sets in? If I need to face up to my fear would that mean asking the zetas to come so that I can confront them? omg not sure I'm up to that!
during the day or in the night.. it does not matter.. do what feels right for you.... one suggestion though, if you immediately decide it's going to be during the day, it could be you should actually do it by night (our fears are very "creative")



And how exactly do I go about it? Would it be to feel the fear and accept it, eg just tell myself ok that is the fear and it's ok? Do I need to question myself eg, what exactly am I scared of? That kind of thing? I would appreciate a step-by-step guide type of thing if it's possible?! And by the way I love your sig line : )
If I really followed the advice in that then I wouldn't fear the zetas half as much I'm sure!

Regular and deep breathing is always a good place to start, i suggest a breathing technique called "Quantum Pause". I came across this technique while studying the "Wingmakers" material.
it works like this.. breathe in for 4 secs. hold for 4 secs. breathe out 4 secs., hold 4 secs, breathe in 4 secs etc. repeat the pattern of "1.IN 2. Hold 3. Out 4. hold" 4 or 5 times and breathe normally for a while.. then repeat the pattern again for 4 to 5 times.. every new cycle of breathing takes you deeper.. at least, it has in my experience..
don't ask too specific questions.. because that could be your ego still trying to influence the process.. no questions is best.. just let it flow.. allow for the process to surprise you...

as for your reaction to the zetas... can't help you there.. i have no fear of the zeta's so they would not appear to me as they appear to you.. i have still have some other fears though...
good luck!

here's a wingmakers poem that always helps me through fearful moments...

Half Mine

When I see your face I know you are half mine
separated by the utmost care to remember all of you.
When I undress my body I see that I am half yours
blurred by sudden flight that leaves
the eye wondering what angels carved in their hearts
to remind them so vividly of their home.
When I see your beauty I know you are half mine
never to be held in a polished mirror
knowing the faithful hunger of our soul.
When I watch your eyes I know they are half mine
tracing a trajectory where sensual virtue is the very spine of us.
When I hold your hand I know it is half mine
wintered in kinship, it circles tenderness
beneath the moon and well of water when the feast is done.
When I kiss your lips I know they are half mine
sent by God's genealogy to uncover us
in the delicious cauldron of our united breath.
When I hear you cry I know your loneliness is half mine
so deep the interior that we are lost outside
yearning to give ourselves away
like a promise made before the asking.
And when I look to your past I know it is half mine
running to the choke cherry trees
invisible to the entire universe we found ourselves
laughing in sudden flight
eyeing the carved initials in our hearts.
Sparing the trees.

source: http://www.wingmakers.us/wingmakersorig/www.wingmakers.com/arrow/chambers/poetry/poem3.shtml
namaste..

[IndigoStar]

Regular and deep breathing is always a good place to start, i suggest a breathing technique called "Quantum Pause". I came across this technique while studying the "Wingmakers" material.
it works like this.. breathe in for 4 secs. hold for 4 secs. breathe out 4 secs., hold 4 secs, breathe in 4 secs etc. repeat the pattern of "1.IN 2. Hold 3. Out 4. hold" 4 or 5 times and breathe normally for a while.. then repeat the pattern again for 4 to 5 times.. every new cycle of breathing takes you deeper.. at least, it has in my experience..
don't ask too specific questions.. because that could be your ego still trying to influence the process.. no questions is best.. just let it flow.. allow for the process to surprise you...

Thanks I'll give it a try right now!


as for your reaction to the zetas... can't help you there.. i have no fear of the zeta's so they would not appear to me as they appear to you.. i have still have some other fears though...good luck!
I really don't wanna be scared of those guys... I hope I can overcome it and thanks! Beautiful poem by the way!

[kersley]

????? This part of your post has freaked me out a bit! Is it a joke? A test to show me I shouldn't believe everything I read? This is rather counter-productive to helping me sleep - telling me that 2 beings will come!! If this is serious I need to know more please - where did you get this info? Who are they? What type of beings?
By the way, I'm female but I obviously have quite male energy because I'm often mistaken for a guy!
I think I'm already awake!?

Yes you are quite right. I don't want to add to your problems, and I'm sorry if what i said scares you.
I'm only one step ahead of you. (maybe not lol) How your feeling is exactly how i felt a few months back. I can only share my experiences with you in the hope that it would help.(obviously not lol)

Let me try and explain it in a fairy tale fashion....
Once upon a time lived a beautiful young Lady by the name of IndigoStar. She had always been clever, asking lots of questions, always wanting to know the answers to many secrets that life holds.
Always thinking, always wondering...She just couldn't help it..The more answers she gets the more questions she would ask.

Then one day something wonderful happened. She was waking up to her true self. She was to become enlightened. The headaches started because her brain was overloaded with conflicting messages.
Her fears kicked in, She couldn't sleep, Her head was in a mess. Then one night as she fell asleep. 2 Angels appeared. Not to teach but to reminded her of what she already knew. (They have been waiting a long time for the right moment. One said to the other, About bloody time to, we have been standing here since she was 3... Never mind said the other. at least she can see us now)

The following night as she laid on her soft pillow, she would fall asleep and dream of becoming a giant eagle. She would fly gracefully around planet earth, fly at supersonic speeds reaching the moon within seconds.
Fly pass Mars, Jupiter,and navigate her way through the asteroid belt without a single rock hitting her. way beyond this solar system she went. she would meet many wonderful intelligent life forms of many many different races.
Soon she would realise that her life has just begun....

[IndigoStar]

Yes you are quite right. I don't want to add to your problems, and I'm sorry if what i said scares you.
Maybe it was the way you said it that freaked me out (or rather my interpretation!). You'll be pleased to hear the fairytale has eradicated those fears!


I'm only one step ahead of you. (maybe not lol) How your feeling is exactly how i felt a few months back. I can only share my experiences with you in the hope that it would help.(obviously not lol)

So the eagle dream is what happened to you and you saw angels?


Let me try and explain it in a fairy tale fashion....
Once upon a time lived a beautiful young Lady by the name of IndigoStar. She had always been clever, asking lots of questions, always wanting to know the answers to many secrets that life holds.
Always thinking, always wondering...She just couldn't help it..The more answers she gets the more questions she would ask.

Then one day something wonderful happened. She was waking up to her true self. She was to become enlightened. The headaches started because her brain was overloaded with conflicting messages.
Her fears kicked in, She couldn't sleep, Her head was in a mess. Then one night as she fell asleep. 2 Angels appeared. Not to teach but to reminded her of what she already knew. (They have been waiting a long time for the right moment. One said to the other, About bloody time to, we have been standing here since she was 3... Never mind said the other. at least she can see us now)

The following night as she laid on her soft pillow, she would fall asleep and dream of becoming a giant eagle. She would fly gracefully around planet earth, fly at supersonic speeds reaching the moon within seconds.
Fly pass Mars, Jupiter,and navigate her way through the asteroid belt without a single rock hitting her. way beyond this solar system she went. she would meet many wonderful intelligent life forms of many many different races.
Soon she would realise that her life has just begun....

Love the story!! Thank you! For the first time in ages I am actually looking forward to going to bed tonight, just to see if I have that amazing dream and it comes true!
You just seemed to state with such certainty that I would see 2 beings that I thought you'd been given a message from the other realm or you were a psychic or something like that!

[kersley]

@Ulli.
Tell me more about these Zetas. Describe them, what do they look like? Do you fear them? What do you sense around them? What do they want from you?
Please do tell....
Thank you

[kersley]

@ IndigoStar...
such certainty that I would see 2 beings that I thought you'd been given a message

It may or may not happened to you, I'm just sharing my experiences with you.
Psychic? I wish.. I would have won the euro millions last weekend, and given some to that poor sod on here who's trap in the rat race. And maybe I'll buy Bill a new hat to..lol

I'm glad you like my little story. Yes that was one of my dreams. probably the best dream i ever had. Something strange is going on.. At work yesterday, I stopped and turned around because i heard the birds tweeting in the trees. I'm not sure what bird it was, maybe a finch or something like that. but it was beautiful colours, I quickly took out my phone to take a picture. Guess what? It flew from the tree and landed on my lap..
I didn't dare move thinking i would scare him away. a good 5 minutes he /she jumped around on my lap. without saying goodbye he flew off.
I just couldn't believe what happened. I got home and told my partner. as we were eating dinner, A bird (this one was bigger) flew in our dinning room and jumped around our floor. off it went again..

All night my partner has been taking the p**s saying it's because i'm secretly looking for another bird. The ones without the wing. lol

[IndigoStar]

It may or may not happened to you, I'm just sharing my experiences with you.

From my experience it is rare that 2 people have exactly the same experiences so I think it is highly unlikely that it will happen to me.


Psychic? I wish.. I would have won the euro millions last weekend, and given some to that poor sod on here who's trap in the rat race. And maybe I'll buy Bill a new hat to..lol
Nooooo Bill wouldn't be the same without his trademark hat! He has to wear it forever now and take it to the grave with him!


I'm glad you like my little story. Yes that was one of my dreams. probably the best dream i ever had. Something strange is going on.. At work yesterday, I stopped and turned around because i heard the birds tweeting in the trees. I'm not sure what bird it was, maybe a finch or something like that. but it was beautiful colours, I quickly took out my phone to take a picture. Guess what? It flew from the tree and landed on my lap..
I didn't dare move thinking i would scare him away. a good 5 minutes he /she jumped around on my lap. without saying goodbye he flew off.
I just couldn't believe what happened. I got home and told my partner. as we were eating dinner, A bird (this one was bigger) flew in our dinning room and jumped around our floor. off it went again..
What a lovely experience! How blessed you are! If it happens again maybe you should try to communicate telepathically with the bird and see if you can get a response! It sounds like you are very connected to the animal kingdom!

[kersley]

It may or may not happened to you, I'm just sharing my experiences with you.

From my experience it is rare that 2 people have exactly the same experiences so I think it is highly unlikely that it will happen to me.


Psychic? I wish.. I would have won the euro millions last weekend, and given some to that poor sod on here who's trap in the rat race. And maybe I'll buy Bill a new hat to..lol
Nooooo Bill wouldn't be the same without his trademark hat! He has to wear it forever now and take it to the grave with him!


I'm glad you like my little story. Yes that was one of my dreams. probably the best dream i ever had. Something strange is going on.. At work yesterday, I stopped and turned around because i heard the birds tweeting in the trees. I'm not sure what bird it was, maybe a finch or something like that. but it was beautiful colours, I quickly took out my phone to take a picture. Guess what? It flew from the tree and landed on my lap..
I didn't dare move thinking i would scare him away. a good 5 minutes he /she jumped around on my lap. without saying goodbye he flew off.
I just couldn't believe what happened. I got home and told my partner. as we were eating dinner, A bird (this one was bigger) flew in our dinning room and jumped around our floor. off it went again..
What a lovely experience! How blessed you are! If it happens again maybe you should try to communicate telepathically with the bird and see if you can get a response! It sounds like you are very connected to the animal kingdom!

I was thinking the same thing. Next time i'll try talking to them. it's when they talk back i need to worry lol....
Hope to catch up with you soon, It's my day off I need to spend the rest of the day in the garden.
Seeya...

[Flasky]

They can be seen only when the brainwave is on Alpha, that brief moment between waking and sleeping
Since the whole phenomenon is other dimensional...

Oh that explains why I see all this weird stuff at night!



......*nods very quickly*

[shantima]

i sleep little since i am a child but i dont go to sleep now without always asking for an interdimensional chamber of light and protection from the pleiadian emissaries of light , or sometimes i ask to be put in a "core -fear reduction chamber" through the night and then i say what my core -fear is that i want to work on , such as being attacked at night for instance in your case. very handy to work on fears during the night . i also cleared a lot of past lives , such as being killed in my sleep one time , which had made it difficult for me to sleep all my life . i sleep on an earthing mat which makes a big difference , so i am always grounded during my sleep. I just joined avalon so namaste to all. sleeping with a dog is also good , mine protects me always and barks when fishy energy came into the room a few times , so i can trust she wakes me when something strange is up - and i do always 20 min of circular breathing before i sleep and set my intent for the nite , i remember all my dreams every nite , good to train conscious dreaming ofcourse too . break all contracts you may have made with those beings you fear , burn the contracts . see you signature on it and theirs that you have an agreement to do that . some Zeta tresspass universal law to work with people without contracts , so ask for help from guardian races which are much more powerful than them , whom they do respect. we are ultimately safe , shantima

[IndigoStar]

i sleep little since i am a child but i dont go to sleep now without always asking for an interdimensional chamber of light and protection from the pleiadian emissaries of light , or sometimes i ask to be put in a "core -fear reduction chamber" through the night and then i say what my core -fear is that i want to work on , such as being attacked at night for instance in your case. very handy to work on fears during the night . i also cleared a lot of past lives , such as being killed in my sleep one time , which had made it difficult for me to sleep all my life . i sleep on an earthing mat which makes a big difference , so i am always grounded during my sleep. I just joined avalon so namaste to all. sleeping with a dog is also good , mine protects me always and barks when fishy energy came into the room a few times , so i can trust she wakes me when something strange is up - and i do always 20 min of circular breathing before i sleep and set my intent for the nite , i remember all my dreams every nite , good to train conscious dreaming ofcourse too . break all contracts you may have made with those beings you fear , burn the contracts . see you signature on it and theirs that you have an agreement to do that . some Zeta tresspass universal law to work with people without contracts , so ask for help from guardian races which are much more powerful than them , whom they do respect. we are ultimately safe , shantima

Hi Shantima
Thanks for your reply and welcome to the forum : )
I don't have a dog so I can't use one for protection but I imagine if the zetas came they would have the power to just put the dog to sleep too like with the humans!
I like your chamber of light idea!

I'd just like to make it clear to everyone here (Shantima your post just brought my attention to this fact but it's not aimed at you) ...that I am not in any way trying to paint a negative picture of the zetas. If you read my thread about their visit (posted earlier) it is clear that they did not hurt me in any way and appeared to be considerate towards me. My feeling is that they want to interact with me but the problem is mine. I have fear but it is most likely irrational. I have no evidence to suggest that there is any negative connection to the visits and actually I believe that what they are doing is positive work with me.
There is so much negativity out there connected to the zetas and I think that that type of propaganda is part of the basis for my fear so I certainly don't want to add to that propaganda and I felt it important to mention this now because I feel there could be a danger of that happening. If I was to base judgement solely on my experience I have nothing to fear, aside from getting a shock in the middle of the night when I see them. I consider this issue to be mine - I have to learn to look past their appearance and have courage in their presence. When I have overcome this I will be able to meet them again and hopefully find out exactly what they are up to and then make an informed decision about whether it is positive or negative oriented (which by the way I do not believe is good or bad, just two different, equal ends of the spectrum.

[nearing]

IndigoStar,

I just learned a very useful thing about Magnesium. Most people are deficient because our soils are depleted and therefore, our food is depleted as well.

Magnesium helps to calm and can help one sleep. Take 200-250mg before bed. Take the rest of your supplementation in day (it should be spread out over course of day just like Vitamin C).

I tried it myself last night. It worked to keep me sleeping through the night. (I usually awaken about 3am) I awoke at 7:30 naturally and refreshed.

I hope this helps.

[IndigoStar]

Thanks nearing - I'm looking forward to trying that one out especially as it's worked for you!

[IndigoStar]

Regular and deep breathing is always a good place to start, i suggest a breathing technique called "Quantum Pause". I came across this technique while studying the "Wingmakers" material. it works like this.. breathe in for 4 secs. hold for 4 secs. breathe out 4 secs., hold 4 secs, breathe in 4 secs etc. repeat the pattern of "1.IN 2. Hold 3. Out 4. hold" 4 or 5 times and breathe normally for a while.. then repeat the pattern again for 4 to 5 times.. every new cycle of breathing takes you deeper.. at least, it has in my experience..
don't ask too specific questions.. because that could be your ego still trying to influence the process.. no questions is best.. just let it flow.. allow for the process to surprise you...

I tried this technique yesterday and it was very effective! The first time, I did it in the afternoon lying on the sofa and I felt something releasing from my 2nd chakra point, like a ball of string that was unwinding and slowly coming out of me. Very interesting!

I did it again at night before going to sleep and I started to see strange things in my room! I could see all the energy everywhere, I'd like to put it into words but I don't really have the language. All I can presume is that I was seeing through the veil into another dimension or something like that. I could feel presence all around me but I wimped out and let the fear take hold of me and returned to the normal state. I'll give it another go tonight though! If I keep practising I might get used to it and not feel as anxious.

I had another interesting dream last night that seems like it could be related to the other one. I was watching tv with my parents and my nephew was in a cot upstairs (he isn't a baby now but he was in the dream and it's the same nephew as from the other dream). Nobody could hear him crying and he was really upset but suddenly I heard him and I rushed upstairs and he was really scared and crying a lot but there was a relief when I got to him and in that instant I woke up. I sent reassurance and calm out to the universe at that point.

I don't know if my nephew in the dreams actually represents him in real life and he is calling to me for assistance, if it represents my inner child or the collective planetary fear. Any takes on that?

Anyhow I found it useful to speak calming words that everything will be ok and there is no need to worry or fear and I slept better and my night fear is getting better. I'm still waking up during the night but it's getting easier to get back to sleep so thanks for all the advice. It is working!

[ulli]

@Ulli.
Tell me more about these Zetas. Describe them, what do they look like? Do you fear them? What do you sense around them? What do they want from you?
Please do tell....
Thank you

There were two distinct types of experiences... Dreams and hallucinations.

At the time I had no idea that humans conducted experiments via mind control nor had I ever heard of HAARP before.

The vision I had in a semi sleep state were never threatening...more like toys, pets,
but nothing sublime either.

I never saw the typical Zeta faces, ever.
Once I saw an angel floating by my bed, but it was one of those cheap statues,
the kind that can be found in a dollar store

Later when I realized that I was being visited by ET
with them using a variety of images
none of them so great that they inspired me in a way
some earlier religious visions had done...yet harmless, but made me think...

The dreams were all about ships overhead....either they were military human concoctions or a bit higher up in the sky beautiful very simple design circular craft, with dolphin skin type of exterior.
I used to run for shelter, in most of those dreams, at first trusting the human craft more than the alien craft.

One night I dreamt I was in a hospital while female doctors were pushing transparent tubes into my nostrils and mouth, and I clearly recall the colours of the liquid they pumped into me...one was bright blue and the other was yellow.
I was terrified at the time, and when I tried to resist they forced me back down and I discovered that they were actually quite hostile. I had thought they were aliens in human disguise, but later when I met other abductees who one day suddenly found themselves walking out of the gates of Edwards Airforce Base, with no recollection how they got there, that what had appeared to be an alien abduction experience was in fact actually a military operation.
So when I studied Dr. Greer's sites I realized more and more what had happened to me was of two distinct origins.

When looking for advice at Dr. Boylan's forum I learnt a lot from other people's experiences.
I found that the interferences I had experienced were of two kinds, and That on the whole the ET experiences were more gentle than the human cabal ones.

Later I turned to all sorts of spirituality oriented websites, Nagual, Gnostic, Gurdjieff, Wingmakers, and found that I was becoming more creative than I had been in ages.

None of the night visions ever returned, until when in February of this year I was disturbed by psychic attacks after joining this forum. After praying for protection these attacks stopped, making me realize that the highest dimensions are yet more powerful than all of the others combined...and I'm talking here of pure energy beings that are beyond incarnation and totally in service to the divine source.

It's been quite a ride, I must say.

[ulli]

IndigoStar
I feel your little nephew represents you in that dream. I also think that you may have passed your last big hurdle and can look forward to a more peaceful life.
Since you are making also a lot of outer changes that makes sense.
I used to be obsessed for years, always looking at the night sky for signs of UFOs,
I don't do that anymore.
I can feel a bond with all physical life, and even the highest civilizations, no matter how advanced, share with us down here the apprehension of the great unknown. So do the PTB.
We are all in this together. Yet beyond it all is the eternal domain, which is beyond our imagination...in terms of it's perfection.

[IndigoStar]

Thanks, I feel like I've overcome the worst of it and am heading down the other side of the mountain now...a stronger person. I still have a lot to do but I'll get there I'm sure!
I think it's time to focus on 3d and enjoy the experience here rather than wishing I was some other place in space!

[geoffrey goodyear]

hello there, i used to suffer from some form of insomnia, diffrent i know , to what ure experiencing but, i sorted this problem with the help from a couple in america called Stewart and Janet swerdlow- expansions.com, i purchased two books by stewart ,the first was 'blue blood , true blood' and the second was 'the healers handbook' both are superb , stewart was the only survivour of the mountauk project (1970-1983) in usa, and was taught by his handlers a huge amount of inside knowledge, so part of all this info involves self protection technics using the language of hyperspace- archetype, colour and tone. you tube has a huge amount of stewarts stuff ,so is a good place to start. i hope this is helpful, best wishes gef.:):)

[IndigoStar]

Thanks Gef..I'll check out those books and his vids. Sounds interesting!
Glad to hear you managed to sort your problem out : )[COLOR="red"]

[webyourstuff]

I had that problem for awhile. What helped was bi-aural delta waves. Comes on CD. (I'm not sure I am spelling bi-aural right, might be binaural.) Search on delta and metamusic, or delta and hemi-sync. Bi-aural is a technique synchronizing what goes in the right ear and the left ear, such that your brain seeks to create a wave to balance the two. A delta wave CD is one that forces your brain to create delta waves. That puts you to sleep.

What I did was I bought several CDs, and loaded them as a playlist onto an mp3 player. I found that a few hours, then silence worked for me.

The waves themselves are just noise. You can find cds which have just the waves- a light static sound that is not offensive like real static. Or it could have the the waves obscured by music. Or it could have the waves with voice leading you to relax and sleep.

The biggest problem I had was, since this requires the use of headphones, finding earphones that stayed on throu the night was a bitch.

Hope this helps.

[IndigoStar]

Thanks webyourstuff, I will try that!

Last night I only woke up once which was an improvement on the usual every 2 hours, but the awake time lasted 2 hours : S ... I woke up at 3:03 with a sudden jolt, wide awake and a bit confused. (Not sure if I had a visit and woke up on my return) but then I felt freaked out (possibly just my mind playing games) and couldn't sleep again til 5am.

I'm controlling the fear better with all these techniques though I have to say. I haven't got round to trying all of them because I'm so crazy busy right now, just moved house and opening the shop next week. Today I'm exhausted after painting the shop furniture so hopefully it will help me sleep!