Congress Vote On Declaration of Worldwide Perpetual War

[ktlight]

The United States Congress is set to vote on legislation that authorizes the official start of World War 3, a worldwide war against an invisible enemy that can reside in any country the U.S. Government chooses.

The legislation authorizes the President of the United States to take unilateral military action against all nations, organizations, and persons, both domestically and abroad, who are alleged to be currently or who have in the past supported or engaged in hostilities or who have provided aid in support of hostilities against the Untied States or any of its coalition allies.
The legislation removes the requirement of congressional approval for the use of military force and instead gives the President totalitarian dictatorial authority to engage in any and all military actions for an indefinite period of time.
It even authorizes the President the authority to launch attacks against American Citizens inside the United States with no congressional oversight whatsoever.
Just to recap, because that was a mouthful:
Endless War – The war will continue until all hostilities are terminated, which will never happen.
No Borders – The president will have the full authority to launch military strikes against any country, organization or person, including against U.S citizens on U.S soil.
Unilateral Military Action – Full authority to invade any nation at any time with no congressional approval required.
No Clearly Defined Enemy – The US can declare or allege anyone a terrorist or allege they are or have been supporting “hostilities” against the US and attack at will.
Authorization To Invade Several Countries – The president would have full authority to invade Iran, Syria, North Korea, along with several other nations in Africa and the Middle East and even Russia and China under the legislation all of which are “know” to have supported and aided hostilities against the United States.

source
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/15/congress-to-vote-on-declaration-of-worldwide-perpetual-war-with-no-borders-no-clear-enemies/

[D-Day]

Well, that can't be good!

[crosby]

i am not surprised by this action. i am pissed. thank you kt for bringing this to avalon. how can a nation of generally decent people stop this heinous activity? this government makes the rest of us americans look like effing demons. grrrr argh....... and i trust that this will pass and the rest of the world will be even more angry that we americans do not stand up for what is right. how the hell can you stand up for something and stop it when you don't even know that it exists? there is just so much bs with this government. more deceit, more control. -i GUESS they're are so many 'ENEMIES' out there. what total nonsense. i can't believe it. all part of the global strategy to just take over and start world domination. this just pisses me off.
corson

[Referee]

I think something big is getting underway. They are bombarding mainstream media with lies and misdirection and picking up the pace pushing legislation through behind the scenes. What is it they are gearing up for? If the US starts picking a fight with China everyone may be in for a rough ride. I guess my question is why all the misdirection, Is their control of the mainstream media really this powerful?

[crosby]

Referee i agree with you. something wicked this way comes. oh, and welcome to avalon. hope you enjoy your stay here. and to answer your question, their control of the msm is really that powerful.
warmest, corson

[Providence]

I think something big is getting underway. They are bombarding mainstream media with lies and misdirection and picking up the pace pushing legislation through behind the scenes. What is it they are gearing up for? If the US starts picking a fight with China everyone may be in for a rough ride. I guess my question is why all the misdirection, Is their control of the mainstream media really this powerful?

I totally agree! The first thought I had when I heard the news about the supposed 'killing of Osama' was OMG, there's a hugh false flag event on the horizon. At this point the government can do almost anything, including setting off nuclear devices in major cities, and lay the blame on the terrorist, in retaliation for Osama's death.

I think it's very realistic to prepare for another 9/11 event. They are preparing for something...

[Steven]

Another nail in the coffin of 'false democracy'. It will only worsen their already weak spot in the world. Let them eat their own tail.

Namaste, Steven

[oceanz]

To me, there seems to be a proliferation of legislations and acts passed by the US Government in the past few months and not only that but it appears they are passed through very quickly.

[crosby]

To me, there seems to be a proliferation of legislations and acts passed by the US Government in the past few months and not only that but it appears they are passed through very quickly.

and very quietly. people are just so busy trying to keep their lives together that at the end of the day, there isn't enough left over to pay attention to the silent quakes going on in washington. all of this is going to be devastating.
warmest, corson

just as an aside, while on my lunch break today, i listened to the cnn call in show and they had a gentleman on from 'homeland security', and i believe he said that homeland security was being privatized. wtf...... i hope that i misunderstood him. he was initially on the show to take calls regarding the behavior of the tsa. and he kept slipping these comments in. this is the kind of stuff that people are not hearing.

[Bridey]

Okay I invite everyone on here to come up to Canada on my land.....we all can all live together, happily off the grid on a farm. Near some caves and an abundant supply of water....Did you know that all of the worlds lakes added together doesn't even equal the number of lakes Canada has? I heard that Canada has over a million. That's if they are not all contaminated with radiation now. Oh boy!! Maybe I should move to south america....

Thank-you klight.....i enjoy your posts!

[TWINCANS]

Okay I invite everyone on here to come up to Canada on my land.....we all can all live together, happily off the grid on a farm. Near some caves and an abundant supply of water....Did you know that all of the worlds lakes added together doesn't even equal the number of lakes Canada has? I heard that Canada has over a million. That's if they are not all contaminated with radiation now. Oh boy!! Maybe I should move to south america....

Thank-you klight.....i enjoy your posts!

DSorry but all that lovely natural scenery is owned by the ptb. They carved it up ages ago.

[crosby]

TWINCANS, really? the jerks. i wonder how they have the us of a carved up? and specifically, who gets pennsylvania......... we have a lot of people here who have NO filtering system, whatsoever..... if they ever wake up, i feel bad for the poor sod, well, maybe not that sorry.....
regards, corson

[observer]

I believe it would be considered approprate to post the photo with the website link.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2cxdvt3.jpg

With permission from Deesillistrations.com

[sygh]

This is ridiculous.

The word "depopulation" has crept into the foreground of my mind. What days.

[Carmody]

the closer they come to totalitarianism, the faster they have to move. As.... people start to notice that something serious is going on.....

IMO, it is about a 50-50 chance that any false flag attack will happen in Canada. Canada needs one so Canadians can crap themselves and beg to be let into a NA union pact of some sort.

IIRC, Mexico has already capitulated and would be very happy with a totally open border.

Then the US military would simply move to Mexican ports and their southern border with the other central American countries. Was there not a US military exercise based a similar scenario, a while back?

[Lord Sidious]

the closer they come to totalitarianism, the faster they have to move. As.... people start to notice that something serious is going on.....

IMO, it is about a 50-50 chance that any false flag attack will happen in Canada. Canada needs one so Canadians can crap themselves and beg to be let into a NA union pact of some sort.

The tighter they squeeze, the faster it slips away.
They fear one thing, our numbers.

[Flasky]

This is so crazy....I can't believe its not a movie I am watching but our own life we are living.

I just want to hug all of my loved ones and keep them safe - even more now. Sudden urgency to do so.

First, I shall start with you guys....:grouphug:Keepin' y'all tight!

We shall crumble the forces of evil:fencing:.... with love!:hug:

Even Harry new that..! :laugh:

Alas, cooties has found a new force as a biological weapon...:p

[Calz]

The United States Congress is set to vote on legislation that authorizes the official start of World War 3, a worldwide war against an invisible enemy that can reside in any country the U.S. Government chooses.

Huh.

The last several "wars" bypassed the "approval" of the congress critters. Must be getting serious this time and no more "screwing around".

[Calz]

Another shot is heard from the participants of the WW3 pissing contest:


Secret Weather Weapons Can Kill Millions Warns Top Russian Politician

A top Duma political leader caused shock waves in a recent television interview when he warned that Russia could deploy an arsenal of new technology to “destroy any part of the planet” and kill over a hundred million people using secret weather weapons if the United States, the UN or Georgia tried to stop Russia’s entry into the WTO.


http://www.infowars.com/secret-weather-weapons-can-kill-millions-warns-top-russian-politican/


*** looks like Jack already posted this one ***

[GlassSteagallfan]

Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Congress Proposes Bill to Allow Worldwide War ... Including INSIDE the U.S.


Americans who have been paying attention are outraged that Bush lied us into Iraq by making up false claims about weapons of mass destruction and pretending that Saddam Hussein had a hand in 9/11.

Many are disgusted that Obama got us into a war in Libya without Congressional authorization.

But as the ACLU noted yesterday, Congress is going even further ... proposing handing permanent, world-wide war-making powers to the president - including the ability to make war within the United States:

A hugely important provision for Congress to authorize a new worldwide war has been tucked away inside the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The bill was marked up by members of the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) last Wednesday that poured into Thursday morning (2:45 a.m. to be exact).

A couple of minutes past midnight, Rep. John Garamendi (D-Calif.) offered an amendment to strike Sec. 1034 — the new authorization for worldwide war provision — from the NDAA. Visibly angry that such a large sweeping provision had not yet had any public hearing whatsoever, he vigorously characterized it as a very broad declaration of war.

Rep. Garamendi was very concerned by the limitless geographic boundaries of the provision. Essentially, it would enable the U.S. to use military force anywhere in the world (including within the U.S.) in search of terrorists.

***

While a new authorization for worldwide war has had its first public debate, it unfortunately only lasted a hair over 10 minutes and occurred after midnight.

Though it is a very troubling expansion of war authority, it has been lingering for more than three years as a “sleeper provision,” and it is finally getting the attention of some members of Congress. We hope that further debate in Congress in the weeks ahead will allow for a more in-depth examination of unchecked authority to wage worldwide war, and what the outcomes of such a provision will yield.


As I noted in 2008:....

Remainder of article here: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/congress-proposes-bill-to-allow.html

HR 1450 here: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540ih.pdf

[ktlight]

i am not surprised by this action. i am pissed. thank you kt for bringing this to avalon. how can a nation of generally decent people stop this heinous activity? this government makes the rest of us americans look like effing demons. grrrr argh....... and i trust that this will pass and the rest of the world will be even more angry that we americans do not stand up for what is right. how the hell can you stand up for something and stop it when you don't even know that it exists? there is just so much bs with this government. more deceit, more control. -i GUESS they're are so many 'ENEMIES' out there. what total nonsense. i can't believe it. all part of the global strategy to just take over and start world domination. this just pisses me off.
corson

I trust that there are many, many Americans who feel as you do, Corson. I really think the time has passed when people blamed citizens for what their governments do. Don't let this be a distraction. Forewarned is forearmed.

[oceanz]

It has occured to me today that this declaration is not just for war on terrorism but financial terrorism.

Hasn't the USA reached its debt ceiling?

Alot of countries are still financially sound so when the time comes to be forced to use global currency...well, the term "financial terrorism" comes to mind.

[Teakai]

I wonder if this is leading up to false flag ET invasion.

Edit to add:
Forgot to say - stoopid feckers.

[Sierra]

Hasn't the USA reached its debt ceiling?


:pound: Oh lordie, that was a good laugh ...

[Charlie Pecos]

the closer they come to totalitarianism, the faster they have to move. As.... people start to notice that something serious is going on.....

IMO, it is about a 50-50 chance that any false flag attack will happen in Canada. Canada needs one so Canadians can crap themselves and beg to be let into a NA union pact of some sort.

The tighter they squeeze, the faster it slips away.
They fear one thing, our numbers.

A Bugs Life- "Then they ALL might stand up to us"

HmUD9Jhfh_U

[oceanz]

Hasn't the USA reached its debt ceiling?


:pound: Oh lordie, that was a good laugh ...

lol

A bit like those rooms where the floor is tilted so when you put people inside, some people look like giants when you look through the window.

Must be lots of giants because that ceiling is getting bigger.

Just as well you have a builder, Ben Bernake: "Build it up, build it up, build it higher... build it up, up, up until it reaches the sky"

[oceanz]

BTW that song, I think I heard it on Playschool which is an Australian/New Zealand childrens program where they do imaginary play and play with dolls/puppets.

[Flash]

The crushing has started and it will be going fast now. From all sides (economics, terrorist, health, weather, etc).
This is very sad to see. We must be living a reenactment of the beginning of the second world war.

[Lord Sidious]

The crushing has started and it will be going fast now. From all sides (economics, terrorist, health, weather, etc).
This is very sad to see. We must be living a reenactment of the beginning of the second world war.

Interesting observation.
As I have been known to say, the weimar republic is now worldwide.

[felixq78]

To most thinking people this is obviously another wedge driven into worldwide democracy as well as each nation's individual sovereign right to govern itself without interference from the USA or any other rogue nation appointing itself as the World leader.
On the surface it would appear that the USA would be the head of the One World Government that the owners of the planet have been planning for centuries. I don't think so.
It's clear that the Banksters are in the process of attacking the US economic system and eventually they intend to bring the US down.
Once the US is totally bankrupt their Military will eventually fail. No money, no Military, no power, no USA.
A sad eventuality. In spite of what everyone else outside of the US thinks I believe it's redeemable, deep down the USA had some principles worthy of protecting.
If we don't protect the USA (in its pure form, not the fascist state to which it has descended) then who will step forward and claim the throne of this World State? The Illuminati, the Banksters, the Vatican??
We must save the USA, if it's allowed to slip down the slippery slope towards absolute fascism then there's no hope for the rest of humanity.

[Lord Sidious]

Democracy isn't what you might think it is.
It is responsible for the crap we are in now, believe it or not.

[Calz]

To most thinking people this is obviously another wedge driven into worldwide democracy as well as each nation's individual sovereign right to govern itself without interference from the USA or any other rogue nation appointing itself as the World leader.
On the surface it would appear that the USA would be the head of the One World Government that the owners of the planet have been planning for centuries. I don't think so.
It's clear that the Banksters are in the process of attacking the US economic system and eventually they intend to bring the US down.

Once the US is totally bankrupt their Military will eventually fail. No money, no Military, no power, no USA.

A sad eventuality. In spite of what everyone else outside of the US thinks I believe it's redeemable, deep down the USA had some principles worthy of protecting.
If we don't protect the USA (in its pure form, not the fascist state to which it has descended) then who will step forward and claim the throne of this World State? The Illuminati, the Banksters, the Vatican??
We must save the USA, if it's allowed to slip down the slippery slope towards absolute fascism then there's no hope for the rest of humanity.

I would suggest the us military is as much a tool of the global elite as otherwise.

It will continue to be funded (somehow ... from somewhere) as long as that continues to be the case.

[mosquito]

To most thinking people this is obviously another wedge driven into worldwide democracy as well as each nation's individual sovereign right to govern itself without interference from the USA or any other rogue nation appointing itself as the World leader.
On the surface it would appear that the USA would be the head of the One World Government that the owners of the planet have been planning for centuries. I don't think so.
It's clear that the Banksters are in the process of attacking the US economic system and eventually they intend to bring the US down.
Once the US is totally bankrupt their Military will eventually fail. No money, no Military, no power, no USA.
A sad eventuality. In spite of what everyone else outside of the US thinks I believe it's redeemable, deep down the USA had some principles worthy of protecting.
If we don't protect the USA (in its pure form, not the fascist state to which it has descended) then who will step forward and claim the throne of this World State? The Illuminati, the Banksters, the Vatican??
We must save the USA, if it's allowed to slip down the slippery slope towards absolute fascism then there's no hope for the rest of humanity.

I respect what you say, but I think the USA IN ITS' CURRENT, FASCIST INCARNATION must be gotten rid of, in order for the REAL America to rise from the ashes. The American people still have weapons, they need to organise themselves and take action, though I fearit may be too late as this legislation provides for the government to wage war on its' own citizens.

[ktlight]

I respect what you say, but I think the USA IN ITS' CURRENT, FASCIST INCARNATION must be gotten rid of, in order for the REAL America to rise from the ashes. The American people still have weapons, they need to organise themselves and take action, though I fearit may be too late as this legislation provides for the government to wage war on its' own citizens.

I hate the idea of people aiming at each other with guns, but the fact that they exist is for a reason. it is never too late.

[Referee]

I am amazed that the American public even with all that is going on has not caught on to this and demanded some answers from Congress. We can not stand for such broad and sweeping powers without answering to the people. There is much debate over who actually has the power to declare war in the US.

[dukes4monny]

I see a lot of fear in this thread. Please don't forget that life is a game, don't let someone else dictate the rules for YOUR game unless that is what your game entails.
If you focus on their rules, then that is mostly likely what you will end up with (manifest).
I would suggest leaving the TV turned off, don't buy / read newspapers and perhaps take a few days away from the internet........go for a nice long walk and look at the wonders of Mother Nature..........it works for me :happy:

[mosquito]

I must say, something which puzzles me is this : Why exactly would a body of 300+ educated and supposedly intelligent people sign their power over to one person ? Especially when they must surely know that one of their main reasons for existence is to specifically safeguard against power being located in the hands of one person. This amounts to willful self-castration. Either they've lost the plot or I have.
:confused:

[ktlight]

I must say, something which puzzles me is this : Why exactly would a body of 300+ educated and supposedly intelligent people sign their power over to one person ? Especially when they must surely know that one of their main reasons for existence is to specifically safeguard against power being located in the hands of one person. This amounts to willful self-castration. Either they've lost the plot or I have.
:confused:

What I think is that education is part of indoctrination, as is religious education and social education, and indoctrination instills obedience, such until it becomes inherent. So they may well know but do not have the mind to resist. They are ALL insane.

[observer]

I must say, something which puzzles me is this : Why exactly would a body of 300+ educated and supposedly intelligent people sign their power over to one person ? Especially when they must surely know that one of their main reasons for existence is to specifically safeguard against power being located in the hands of one person. This amounts to willful self-castration. Either they've lost the plot or I have.
:confused:

The evidence will show, mariposafe, that each and every individual representing the people (allegedly).... and only after each of those representatives has passed their first term of office (incumbency); every single one of them is either a member of one or more of these three exclusive clubs:


The Masonic Order (in every case, an highly initiated member)
The Trilateral Commission
The Council on Foreign Relations.

All three of these clubs 'network' at the darkest circles of secrecy. Each and every member does exactly what their mentor tells them to do.

This is the mechanism by which 'the people' are represented....

[Marikins]

This is intensely interesting to me. It has passed the Committee and now goes to the House for vote. Mainstream media is strangely silent on this issue. Americans can send an electronic protest via the ACLU.org (http://www.aclu.org) site if they like.

Now this is the part that interests me; are we to stand up and fight or are we to focus on the future we want, staying out of the fear and drama? I do agee that this seems a replay of Nazi Germany which was able to proceed unchecked because no one stood up. This is causing me the deepest introspection of my life.

[Providence]

I respect what you say, but I think the USA IN ITS' CURRENT, FASCIST INCARNATION must be gotten rid of, in order for the REAL America to rise from the ashes. The American people still have weapons, they need to organise themselves and take action, though I fearit may be too late as this legislation provides for the government to wage war on its' own citizens.

I agree! But sadly, too many US citizens still have a deeply entrenched 'trust' in the government for doing what is 'right'. It will probably take a major event by the government where their actions portray an obvious betrayal of it's citizens before many of them awaken to the truth.

[Providence]

I am amazed that the American public even with all that is going on has not caught on to this and demanded some answers from Congress. We can not stand for such broad and sweeping powers without answering to the people. There is much debate over who actually has the power to declare war in the US.

As you probably know Referee, the incredible amount of disinformation and purposeful distraction by the news media keeps everyone sedated and in the dream. It's easier to believe the lies that are sold to us than to think for ourselves, ask the difficult questions, and search for the truth...

[Charlie Pecos]

I respect what you say, but I think the USA IN ITS' CURRENT, FASCIST INCARNATION must be gotten rid of, in order for the REAL America to rise from the ashes. The American people still have weapons, they need to organise themselves and take action, though I fearit may be too late as this legislation provides for the government to wage war on its' own citizens.

I agree! But sadly, too many US citizens still have a deeply entrenched 'trust' in the government for doing what is 'right'. It will probably take a major event by the government where their actions portray an obvious betrayal of it's citizens before many of them awaken to the truth.

They already did that! It was called the 2008 presidential election. No, it will take something far greater for the masses to see.

[mosquito]

I must say, something which puzzles me is this : Why exactly would a body of 300+ educated and supposedly intelligent people sign their power over to one person ? Especially when they must surely know that one of their main reasons for existence is to specifically safeguard against power being located in the hands of one person. This amounts to willful self-castration. Either they've lost the plot or I have.
:confused:

The evidence will show, mariposafe, that each and every individual representing the people (allegedly).... and only after each of those representatives has passed their first term of office (incumbency); every single one of them is either a member of one or more of these three exclusive clubs:


The Masonic Order (in every case, an highly initiated member)
The Trilateral Commission
The Council on Foreign Relations.

All three of these clubs 'network' at the darkest circles of secrecy. Each and every member does exactly what their mentor tells them to do.

This is the mechanism by which 'the people' are represented....

Yes, of course you're right, so surely now the evidence should be sufficient for people to see that their representatives DO NOT represent their best interests ?
I have a feeling not - sigh.

[Lord Sidious]

I must say, something which puzzles me is this : Why exactly would a body of 300+ educated and supposedly intelligent people sign their power over to one person ? Especially when they must surely know that one of their main reasons for existence is to specifically safeguard against power being located in the hands of one person. This amounts to willful self-castration. Either they've lost the plot or I have.
:confused:

The evidence will show, mariposafe, that each and every individual representing the people (allegedly).... and only after each of those representatives has passed their first term of office (incumbency); every single one of them is either a member of one or more of these three exclusive clubs:


The Masonic Order (in every case, an highly initiated member)
The Trilateral Commission
The Council on Foreign Relations.

All three of these clubs 'network' at the darkest circles of secrecy. Each and every member does exactly what their mentor tells them to do.

This is the mechanism by which 'the people' are represented....

Yes, of course you're right, so surely now the evidence should be sufficient for people to see that their representatives DO NOT represent their best interests ?
I have a feeling not - sigh.

Not until enough are out of their comfort zones, or what is left of them.

[Sierra]

I found a use for my nasty temper. I wrote to my Beltway congressional representative:

Dear whoever on the staff is really going to read this.
FYI, I am ticked but I am not going to swear at you or use dirty words. But I am ticked.

You asked me what my issue was in your form and I had to put down "OTHER" because should I have put it under: Homeland Security, Foreign Affairs, Health, Civil Rights, Taxes etc. I ask sarcastically. World Wide War will pretty much affect everything on your list except Tours and Flags.

WHY didn't you speak out to strike Sec. 1034 — the new authorization for worldwide war provision — from the NDAA?

John Garamendi did.

You deserve an F for this one, unless you start canvassing your cronies in the Senate to get rid of this piece of legislation from hell for if your lack of action results in a worse case scenario then say goodbye to a night's sleep in peace again because your conscience will be hammering you by 3:00 am every morning without fail and deservedly so for the vast swath of suffering and death your silence will have generated. Shame. On. You. No debate whatsoever I hear and passed at oh yeah around 3:00 am in the morning (raising eyebrows significantly at your boss dear employee reading this note).

And no I do not want a written response to this missive because it will be polite meaningless soothing pap drivel completely unrelated to my complaint and will make me vomit.

NOT respectfully yours in any way shape or form unless you GET off your ass and fix this, Sierra's Signature

Avaloners, I feel pure and virtuous and righteous. It was ... it was ... almost a religious experience <rolling eyeballs to heaven to see if I am going to get blasted> ...

Lets all harass our evil minions in DC. :ranger:

Sierra