Carmody
16th May 2011, 15:58
I made this post a while back in one instance and I just retold it in another thread.
Some of you might find it interesting. So I give it it's own thread.
Ok. I grabbed this 'whole cloth'...so you can catch the context of the remarks.
THAT I understand!!!
I am truly grateful for individuals as yourself and all the other "computer people"
Also that somehow you also have the amazing ability to structure such a complex "invention" so that even us illiterate people can be involved
Thank you
And Thank You also for being so lovingly patient and understanding with those of us who's I.Q. level only has two numbers!!!! :hug:
1200 and 2400 baud, an amazing 4800 baud..then the 9600, then out of the blue that amazing multiplexed 33.6k buad screaming fast modem..and the net was not yet born, but it was being gestated. BBS's, the alt. crowd and all the message groups. yes, I was there for some of that. Maybe not reading the same stuff.
My brother and I were running our BBS 24/7/365, for years. We were part of the system that moved the files/packets (for the alt.binaries of the given group we were involved with) across the country so we could communicate with what was in them. Silent power supplies (fanless, etc, modded by me to help quiet the house) and the rest.
We were likely among the first to do on-line gaming. probably in first 10 to do so. Small ASCII coded visuals games.
You know Carmody . . . . I have not a freaking clue about what you just posted.
Not that I need to know LOL. Amazing.
:noidea:
As in: Al Gore did not invent the internet. People like us did. We laid the groundwork.
We put in the effort, we raised it from the dirt and gave it the framework that allowed people to peer in and begin to get involved. 'Build it,and they will come'. That is what happened. Paul (moderator) knows exactly what I'm talking about.
We (as a large group of electronically connected people) erected the structure.... and it began to be filled in, shifted, changed, etc..as use for it began to evolve..
I ran into one of the REAL creators of the internet a while back. The ATLAS program communications scientists. One of the few hundred who was the creator of the origins of the backbone of international communication channels of digital data. it was a fascinating conversation about military programs and how the scientists, who were not supposed to be communicating so broadly, as the Military of the given country wanted to maintain a state of compartmentalization..how he and his compatriots NEEDED to communicate in order to get their job done.
Essentially they communicated by stealing and appropriating all channels they could, of any kind. Phone systems, electronic channels for military and satellite systems, the whole works. Including digital over ham radio. Translation nodes (from one data carrier type to another, etc), the whole works.
These scientists and PHD's were the original true hackers. They created a worldwide backdoor back channel system that rode unseen and unrealized across the world's communication channels. Public, private, corporate, government, and military communications systems. They broke into and appropriated it all. In unnoticeable ways.
The military watched them closely and they both looked at each other. The military let them do it. The 5000 scientists communicated, (as they needed to) with one another and got the job done.
The ATLAS rocket program was successful.
When the Atlas program was over and the launches were deemed done and the existing or created structure of research was no longer going to be needed, the Military stepped back in and took over the created network and shut everyone out.
And that was the core creation of the internet. The military had found a more evolved system than their own -of that time.
You won't likely find this story anywhere else, so remember it, folks!
Some of you might find it interesting. So I give it it's own thread.
Ok. I grabbed this 'whole cloth'...so you can catch the context of the remarks.
THAT I understand!!!
I am truly grateful for individuals as yourself and all the other "computer people"
Also that somehow you also have the amazing ability to structure such a complex "invention" so that even us illiterate people can be involved
Thank you
And Thank You also for being so lovingly patient and understanding with those of us who's I.Q. level only has two numbers!!!! :hug:
1200 and 2400 baud, an amazing 4800 baud..then the 9600, then out of the blue that amazing multiplexed 33.6k buad screaming fast modem..and the net was not yet born, but it was being gestated. BBS's, the alt. crowd and all the message groups. yes, I was there for some of that. Maybe not reading the same stuff.
My brother and I were running our BBS 24/7/365, for years. We were part of the system that moved the files/packets (for the alt.binaries of the given group we were involved with) across the country so we could communicate with what was in them. Silent power supplies (fanless, etc, modded by me to help quiet the house) and the rest.
We were likely among the first to do on-line gaming. probably in first 10 to do so. Small ASCII coded visuals games.
You know Carmody . . . . I have not a freaking clue about what you just posted.
Not that I need to know LOL. Amazing.
:noidea:
As in: Al Gore did not invent the internet. People like us did. We laid the groundwork.
We put in the effort, we raised it from the dirt and gave it the framework that allowed people to peer in and begin to get involved. 'Build it,and they will come'. That is what happened. Paul (moderator) knows exactly what I'm talking about.
We (as a large group of electronically connected people) erected the structure.... and it began to be filled in, shifted, changed, etc..as use for it began to evolve..
I ran into one of the REAL creators of the internet a while back. The ATLAS program communications scientists. One of the few hundred who was the creator of the origins of the backbone of international communication channels of digital data. it was a fascinating conversation about military programs and how the scientists, who were not supposed to be communicating so broadly, as the Military of the given country wanted to maintain a state of compartmentalization..how he and his compatriots NEEDED to communicate in order to get their job done.
Essentially they communicated by stealing and appropriating all channels they could, of any kind. Phone systems, electronic channels for military and satellite systems, the whole works. Including digital over ham radio. Translation nodes (from one data carrier type to another, etc), the whole works.
These scientists and PHD's were the original true hackers. They created a worldwide backdoor back channel system that rode unseen and unrealized across the world's communication channels. Public, private, corporate, government, and military communications systems. They broke into and appropriated it all. In unnoticeable ways.
The military watched them closely and they both looked at each other. The military let them do it. The 5000 scientists communicated, (as they needed to) with one another and got the job done.
The ATLAS rocket program was successful.
When the Atlas program was over and the launches were deemed done and the existing or created structure of research was no longer going to be needed, the Military stepped back in and took over the created network and shut everyone out.
And that was the core creation of the internet. The military had found a more evolved system than their own -of that time.
You won't likely find this story anywhere else, so remember it, folks!