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ktlight
17th May 2011, 09:45
Before I begin, perhaps I should tell you something about myself. I am a 49 year old British man, married to a Danish lady, and for the moment resident here in Denmark. Prior to first moving here back in 1996, I had spent 15 years as a Police Officer in London and before that 6 years in the military.

I was raised in the industrial area of South Wales and come from `working class` stock. Up until quite recently, I had been a staunch believer in the `democratic` process and a firm conservative.

My awakening began upon my relocation to this small, cold northern country. Up until then, I had `bought` into the consensus viewpoint, and although as a serving officer in London, I had been aware of all the many, and with hind-site, clearly `enforced` changes taking place in society, I had not realised that these changes were orchestrated and designed, as opposed to `evolutionary.`

I had imagined that Denmark would be little more than a smaller version of my homeland. My wife was/is not much different in views and culture from myself, and our countries share a joint history. For the first half year or so, I didn't take too much notice of my surroundings, as we were occupied with the day to day business of setting up our home and all those other mundane necessities.

It was when I was able to sit back and take note of my new environment that I was struck immediately at how different Danes were from British people. My wife had lived in the UK for some years and I soon learned that she was not typical of her country folk. The most immediate, and noticeable character trait was the habitual need many Danes have to tell other people how wonderful Denmark is, and how much better everything is compared to other places. To even the casual observer, it was plain to see that these people were deeply delusional.

Denmark is a nice and pleasant little country, at least on the surface, but no better and a degree worse than some places I have lived. It is small, with a population of around 5,000,000. Until very recently, it has been very homogeneous, (and to a great extent still is) and somewhat isolated, tucked away on the top edge of Europe. In fact, if one wished to conduct a `social experiment`, few places would be better suited, or located. Add to this the truth that Danish people are generally by nature in awe of authority, compliant and passive. One must forget the `Vikings` of yore. Most of them settled in Britain, Northern France and down the Volga.

I quickly began to question this pride in all things Danish. The food variety and quality was nothing like as good as in the UK and a degree more expensive. The public infrastructure was inadequate, and very slow. Monopoly was the name of the game in business. Little or no competition whatsoever. Danish produce and Danish produce only was generally the rule of things. The sheer cost of living was/is at least 2-3 times that of the UK, and yet everyone I met seemed very eager to enquire if I felt lucky to be living in Denmark. Then there is the much vaunted Danish Medical System. Again according to Danes `the best in the world`. But that's just the thing, it wasn't/isn't and the standards are dropping continually, whilst the costs of prescription medicine and Dental care, even on the back of this `public health service` are out of control.

As a former London Police Officer, I was often asked to give lectures at Odense University, on matters relating to crime etc. Over the next few years, I gave many of these presentations, and was shocked at how unquestioning and compliant young Danish people were/are. They appeared immune even to provocation, which I used on several occasions in order to get a response, but usually to no avail. I was also able to attend several degree classes over this period, and was appalled and shocked at the excessive levels of Marxist/Feminist views being foisted on the young people.

The history of their country prior to the end of WWII appears not to be taught at all, and very few Danes seem to have any grasp of their country's past. Most of the teachers were female (of a sort), and the classes themselves were overwhelmingly populated by girls. Almost every lecture I attended was weighted heavily towards a `European` future, and very few were not heavily biased in that direction. And yet, paradoxically, the `Denmark is the best country in the world, with the best education system, best medical system, best social system, best economy, `ad nauseum` was also a constant theme. This is the same message transmitted through every media outlet, and Danes take love of flag to a new height, even decorating Xmas trees and birthday cakes with that national banner. This apparent contradiction, caused me great confusion at the time, but no longer.

Today, I understand; Subliminal symbolism!

source to continue
http://righteousalliance.blogspot.com/2009/07/brave-new-denmark.html

Flash
17th May 2011, 14:22
Certainly not worst, sadly, than what is happening in America. Although less compliant, North American are still pretty much brainwashed. They would not be able to pinpoint Australia or less Nigeria on the map, forget about knowing anything on global impact. I know, I live in North America.

Dorok
17th May 2011, 15:02
Easy, Flash...some of us do know!!! We just get drowned out by the majority of the ignorant masses here... I have to think that this is common EVERYWHERE/EVERYWHEN.

(Every generalization is false!)

Jendayi
17th May 2011, 15:13
just replace "Denmark" with "Holland" and you have pretty much the same story...
it's sad.. really...

Flash
17th May 2011, 15:23
You are right Dorok, generalisation is one of the mishap of communication, leading to false premises, therefore almost ALWAYS wrong. ;) lol. I am aware that all in North American are not that way the proof being those in this forum here, and also that we are drowned out in the unaware masses. As it is surely the case in Denmark.

My point was this: Ktlight, when we live abroad, we do see with big flashing signs in our brain the drawbacks of the country we are in, all its different values, visions, "strange" ways of thinking, this is called "cultural shock" and it is as strong and imposing as divorce would be or a very big emotional shock (in facts, it is an emotional shock, to move to another country).

After a while, we then start seeing as well the "strange" ways of our own people, their drawbacks, the values we used to share that are limiting our people evolution, etc.

My last point is: dumbing down the masses is international (another generalisation), the means being adapted to and processed differently following the countries values, behaviors, etc. The results are similar, with more or less laid back attitudes.

And yes, it is desperating, wherever ones lives.

Lets admit it Dorok most of my neighbours could not pinpoint countries on a map!;)

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just replace "Denmark" with "Holland" and you have pretty much the same story...
it's sad.. really...

or with Canada

Dorok
17th May 2011, 15:29
Lets admit it Dorok most of my neighbour could not pinpoint countries on a map!;)

That may be true, Flash. I don't know who your neighbors are, but your premise is likely >70% correct concerning my own neighbors. However, I beg you to consider that these people do not (IMO) bear 100% of the responsibility for that.

Therefore, I ask us all here to not disparage them but help them when the time is right. (Honestly, knowing where Australia is on a map has never significantly benefited my life.) Let's not use 'book learning' as a manner in which to create another us vs. them paradigm with our own neighbors or people farther away. We are all one, and we are only pointing fingers at ourselves.

Flash
17th May 2011, 15:36
However, I beg you to consider that these people do not (IMO) bear 100% of the responsibility for that. Totally true, dumbing down exist

Therefore, I ask us all here to not disparage them but help them when the time is right. I would not call it disparaging, but rather reality check. Starting from reality base assesment, you then can help because you know where to start. (Honestly, knowing where Australia is on a map has never significantly benefited my life.) Let's not use 'book learning' as a manner in which to create another us vs. them paradigm with our own neighbors or people farther away. We are all one, and we are only pointing fingers at ourselves In full agreement .

Well I received a message my message is too short. So here it is for posting purposes.

JoeNashville
17th May 2011, 15:48
Great post! Very informative.

Aurvandil
17th May 2011, 19:56
This post is fantastic. I also read your blogpost. You are so totally right. I know this because my husband is Danish and we spend some time in Denmark each year and of course have contact with his family there, we also watch Danish TV. We live in Sweden and I my self is half Norwegian, half Swedish.

My husband and his brother are very much into history and archaelogy and so are some of our friends. They are all to be considered "alternative" and not mainstream Danes. Therefore it is easy to see the difference to those who are mainstream and we have some of those in our acquaintance as well. Most Danes we meet are very much occupied with everything Danish, as Denmark and Danish things is the only thing valid. When we visit, we always get comments like "And when are you moving home to your real home(Denmark)?", "How can you survive in Sweden where everyone are idiots?", "Now you should eat some PROPER Danish food!", "You probably don´t know (insert any food at all)!" always with a very self-conscious smile like "Idiot, you don´t know anything since you´re not living here in Denmark...". They do this even to my husband, who are Danish by birth, and that really p*****s me off!

They have always treated me like I am some kind of idiot since I of course am not from Denmark but half Norwegian, half Swedish, making me a total looser. They seldom talk directly to me, always through my husband who has to translate even if they actually understand me perfectly. I am also regularly told "to learn to speak Danish since I am married to a Dane".

I agree, everything that is not Danish is totally worthless by their standards. I must say, I think this development began for perhaps 5-6 years ago, perhaps with the rising of the racist party Dansk folkeparti and the very harsh laws about immigration. I feel this was the starting point of when Denmark began to isolate itself. Before this happened, I would gladly have moved there, but now I am even scared to go there on holiday...