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Nice1

17th May 2011, 14:21

I've worked 15 years now in an 8-5 job and I've got to point where I've realised its just not for me any more. I've always known I don't want to exist as a slave to British Empire my entire life so i decided to start saving as much as could in a tax free savings account.

I've managed to get to almost 20 thousand pounds now but it just seems like nothing still. I feel like I'll never have enough to get off the grid here in the UK because I'll never be able to afford the price of land and building here.

I've considered moving to other countries but I don't really want to be so far away from my family and friends and theres so much potential trouble and learning required to do such a thing.

So far the best idea I've come up with is spending the money on a small piece of land and parking a converted bus on it although I've been informed that even that they do not allow and try to force people not to do. :(

I'm sure many people here might have more knowledge than me. Am I just stuck as a slave forever or is there a way out? I feel so trapped in a system I don't even agree with. All my money going to pay for their war machine :( I'll stop ranting now and I hope someone can show me the light at the end of this tunnel :blabla:

9eagle9

17th May 2011, 14:33

My friend in Wales has down that , a....trolley? NO! A LORRY on a bit of land! I could direct you to her facebook page if you like. Her's is a work in progress and I haven't check in on her for a while.

Well its a process and I work with a smarter part of myself to achieve it but I have to say once I initiated it I had what you called the charmed life. Like something is waiting to smooth the way for you once you got some realizations in your head about your quality of life and state of existence. And fully accept you deserve better.

Aim for self employment.

When I became frustrated in my natural medicine practice feeling like I wasn't fulfilling my potential I just asked that smart part of myself to move me to where I belonged. I was pretty shocked at where I ended up at, far better than where I would have ended up at on my own choosing.

Remember that you don't really own anything so there's no point in buying anything. I lease my property and have free run of it to do as I wish because the landowner has virtually forgotten about it. I'm simply here paying property taxes on it. All manifested. It's quirky and it suits me. If you don't own anything no one can take away from you is my mantra. I own nearly nothing, but I have nearly everything. Or at least access to it.

I don't at all feel trapped in a system, I seem to neatly avoid it all the time, but it was otherwise at one time in my life. Money just falls into my hands where it used to elude me .

you have a bit of advantage I didn't have bit of capitol when I started. So it can be done but you have to restructure how how you apply will to power.

ulli

17th May 2011, 14:36

I checked your profile...so you're still quite young...
actually, you are at the perfect age to make this step.

So the first thing to ask yourself is how much are you willing to sacrifice?
A lot of learning is not really a bad thing, if you know how to go step by step.
What are your dreams?
I would have gone to Australia in 1982, but my mum was still alive then and that would have really hurt her.

There are quite a few countries where the money you have saved up would go a lot further than in England,
And if you work in a profession where you can be considered a service you might get a work permit.

The main thing is to follow a vision, not just drop out because you hate your present job.
I'm sure your boss is not the "british empire".

What do you like to spend your time doing?
The other

Nice1

17th May 2011, 14:55

I would like to spend my time working on inventions and machines but I can't do that because it requires a place to store all the equiptment that I don't have yet. I'd need a permenant residence. I also wanted to grow as much of my own food and build eco systems to get off the grid. I feel like a hamster on wheel and I feel like I can't get off it.

I meant taxes and currency inflation etc that they use to siphon our money from us into their war machine. At least thats what I've gathered from my research. 70% of our taxes is used to fund war.

Remember that you don't really own anything so there's no point in buying anything.

Yeah. I've thought about just backpacking around but money will soon run out then I'm left old and working 8-5 again. All I really want is a bit of freedom and a way out of the system so I can pursue some other things with my time.

I worked all my life and saved but whats the point ya know cuz I'm not getting anywhere I'm just doing as I'm told like a good slave. Sorry for being so negative I'm just searching for a way out of this. After all this time I'm at the brink of insanity with this groundhog day.

bilko

17th May 2011, 14:58

This has been my dream for as long as i can remember Nice1.
Part of the reason i am here also.
I come here daily in the hope of finding an answer, an end to the toil and drudgery of daily life as an employee.
Anything to escape the possible reality of being a ( insert profession here ) for the next 30 years.

You see i don't want to work! I'm not lazy but i have absolutely no ambition as far as a career goes.
Its part of the programming i think. Everyone i talk to about it says " yes wouldn't it be lovely but then who would make the things we need? Who would transport them"? Etc etc.

What i would give for 30 acres of woodland in some secluded place next a quiet country road.
I'd live in a lavvu to start with while i concocted a way of building something to live in that could stay hidden from prying eyes.

Thats the thing though isn't it? Being legal so others don't grass you up out of misplaced civic duty or plain old jealousy.
Anything but this humdrum box i live in.
A cave house is top followed closely by a log cabin.
Then treehouse, cloud house or yurt.
Even a few shipping containers that i could convert.

But we live in a society where cash is king and without an income you are cut off. Unless you are handy or have produce to sell etc.
I have all the self sustainability videos stacked up in my youtube playlists. Like a pathetic retreat i visit daily lol.

On a more positive note, it can be done.
Several of my youtube heroes no longer have day jobs.
If people club together they can buy land and become a small community.

I looked into moving to Canada but i didn't pass the scoring.
Canada is big enough to do it in but the reality of it can be harsh, very harsh.

There is a hell of a lot of programming one has to dump too, devoluton and rapid evolution in different aspects.
Its a path, a life choice.

Just looking at the homeless here shows you how society sets you up to fail once off the map. You have to be so so strong and i just don't know if i have it in me. Sadly if i have to ask that question i wonder if it provides the answer.

Its one of the things that got me wondering if all this was inevitable.
Ever since the invention of the internal combustion engine we have been able to live beyond our means in terms of society growth.
Now the ancient sunlight is running out ( fossil fuels ) and we can't support any more expansion without free energy being released etc.

Sometimes i wish it would all go away so we can start again; properly. But not today. I have 'The Kings Speech' to watch on tv...Pathetic isn't it?!!!
Actually thats a joke, kind of, but you get my meaning.
I would give it all up, everything except modern dental treatment to live the life of freedom.

Hmm, rambling now so i'll leave it there.

9eagle9

17th May 2011, 15:02

I wasn't willing to sacrifice anything, it sorta defeated the purpose of gaining. If I did sacrifice anything it was of no particular value and so I didn't notice it when I was gone. Basically I had nothing to sacrifice.

Sacrifice revolves around poverty consciousness and making agreements. Negotiating for a better life and those are subconscious values that need to be explored. That is where you have to be very honest with yourself. As far as I'm concerned losing our self identity and being a slave in a system has been enough sacrifice, thanks much. So if sacrifice is required I think most of us have sacrificed enough not just in this life time but in others.

I tested my potential once to see if I was under stretching or over stretching. I really had no idea of what level I was at because we are our own experience. So I'm at this festival one day and I said to my SELF, bring to me people who operate on a level that approximates where I'm at. Like..so I can see myself in someone else. So not long after all these people troop in and take a space near to me. I'm squinting over at them and find its a group of famous metaphysical authors. They promptly come over introduce themselves, we start talking , giving each other readings, advice, nipping a few drinks under the table, and hung out virtually the whole weekend together. We became friends and I was certainly their equal. This not what I was expecting but basically I had to understand I was attempting to work on the basement floor when I should have been executing myself a few floors up.

So with that in mind I began working the absurdly impossible. But I had to be scrupulously honest. With myself. I don't like working unless its around the house and I wanted a break from it for a while. So I was very honest and said wanted something to do that would involve chattering away on the net all day, with famous people, and getting paid a lot of money for something that really isn't work and I'd be otherwise doing in my free time. And lots of free time to do my own thing. Took about three weeks but ...there's what I landed.

Work less, earn more. Or gain more. I did have to make some internal adjustments in the way I perceived myself and how I believed about myself but once you do it becomes effortless. And you then have to monitor your thoughts because you're idle thoughts become reality. The universe gives to you way more than you'd think for youself once you get the process underway.

But it wasn't always this way I used to be in the system mind trap of working, negotiating and having to give something up in order to get something else. The only things I give up are the things I don't much care about anyway and would give away on my own.

TigerLilly

17th May 2011, 15:02

In your place I would try spending some time in a community like Findhorn in Scotland or there are several communities in Wales who take volunteers.
Its a great way to learn and meet like minded people.
Good luck

9eagle9

17th May 2011, 15:05

""I would like to spend my time working on inventions and machines but I can't do that because it requires a place to store all the equiptment that I don't have yet.""

I had 2500k feet of fully equipped workshop to lease to someone for just such a thing, someone who wanted to build sustainability and free energy products but ...no one wanted to take 'the risk'.

What risk? I'm offering it to you risk free.

I know your frustration.

Mad Hatter

17th May 2011, 15:18

If you are not in over your head, how do you know how tall you are??

The whole thing starts with and revolves around a vision. Nail that down and I'm sure you'll be suprised by what the universe brings to the table...

bilko

17th May 2011, 15:26

IS home where the heart is?
Sorry but i want to express myself now....
How can i be a poodle for 40 years and then become a wolf?
How can i know it is broken without being given the way to fix it?
My body is tired now, i have smoked too much, drunk too much and eaten too much egg, chips and beans laden with funky chemicals.

Silence is broken by the whir of my mac's hard drive. That and the empty thoughts of the monkey mind.
Is this it?
The blood runs cold in my legs, my body glued to this computer chair as i listen to the sound of an aircraft passing by.

Are we really subdued?
Controlled by some beacon on the moon?

I could live with that if it were true more than the truth of my existence being totally of my own making.
Weird huh?

Reality tries to bust in now, like my rant was a bubble floating the surface and has now popped.
So what are these bubbles?
What is this fizz, this alternate reality interspersed with this time?

I'll leave you in peace now and be embarrassed to look at this post latter.
Heho.

ulli

17th May 2011, 15:27

I love this thread, packed with good input. I really hope you can get something out of this.
Just want to clarify something about semantics, where 9eagle9 and I see things differently.

When I use the word "sacrifice" I use it in the context of "dump" not associating it with any religious connotations.
When moving from one house to another there is always some dumping going on...it's just part of the journey.
We all have some baggage, be it mind stuff, or clothes, or photo albums.

Leasing rather than buying is a good idea, something I would recommend.
But on the other hand, having cash saved up means depositing it in a bank, or hiding it under the mattress,
either one of those options left me feeling a bit uncomfortable...

Now I own land and can watch my avocado trees grow.

red_rose

17th May 2011, 16:09

Mad Hatter

17th May 2011, 16:30

RE land: A clever trick I picked up at a property investment seminar.

The buyer was after acerage in this case. Found a 600 acre property with a really big old style country mansion type house on it surrounded by spectacular gardens. They bought the whole lot then subdivided the house and gardens into a seperate 20 acre lot. Sold that off to a very willing buyer and ended up having to pay a pittance for the rest.

Food for thought and subject to council approval of course.

ulli

17th May 2011, 17:03

Nice1 I hear your plight brother!

My plan is this:

Start a yurt construction business. Sell them, save cash for land.

Get land, build an eco-friendly yurt campsite, move on-site also. You can live on your land if your business requires it, which it would.

Get people,like yourself, to work for me, well work for each other. You can live on the land if you pull your weight with growing food and construction ect.....

I've got more ideas but you get my drift.

If I can pull this off then the first place that I would look for staff/community is here on project avalon.

Live the dream buddy!

red_rose

Brilliant!!
As soon as a group of trustworthy people have responded you will need to delete that post before the liquid competitors beat you to it.
From someone who's ideas have been copied all over the far east and flooded the world market, leaving her own sluggish production behind...

Jendayi

17th May 2011, 17:05

I have no funds, passport or vehicle.. what i do have is my expertise, humor and willingness to change, evolove and adapt......
so... if there's any community that would welcome my presence....
let me know! oh and send an invitation to Nice1 too!
namaste

Positive Vibe Merchant

18th May 2011, 03:55

I think it is the 'dream' to have a liefstyle where we could basically do what we wanted with the time we have. I am sure as I am sitting here, that if people were given the resources to make their (positive) 'dreams' come true, whatever they are, they would. I have no doubt in that.

The way I see it, if you can find that skill or atribute in you that you love, and project that as a resource for others, then working will no longer exist. Your doing what you love and end up loving what you do *as corny as that sounds).

While we are living in a financial system society, it is difficult to live the self sufficient lifestyle, and is something I want in my future also, but people are able, and it is a possibility. So don't give up hope, ask around, and be strong in your self, and please share your experiences with all here. As I am not the only one that can learn from the experience and perspective :)

PVM

mosquito

18th May 2011, 05:24

I really feel for you, I've tried to get out of the rat race several times, and on each occasion got thrown back into it ! What have I learned ?

Preparation (in my case, no preparation !) You really do need to think through what YOU WANT, what you're going to do/not do, and what you're happy to sacrifice.

Don't ever be conned into thinking that "X" is a good, cheap place to live, just because you've been there on holiday. There are tons and tons of places which seem attractive to a foreign tourist, but once you get there and find you have to live there, it's not quite a cushy as it seemed.

An important point, and please don't think I'm being condescending, but 28 is still nice and young. In 20 years time you'll still only be 48, which I know sounds awful to you, but it's still young ! The thought of spending another 20 years doing your job is probably hellish but, believe me, 20 years can go very quickly. So What I suggest is that it is well worth you investing some time in doing some kind of training/education to get you to where you want to go. What's 2 years to get an MA ? Or 6 years (with the OU) to get a BA ? I wish I could go back in time and tell myself this same thing !!!!

I'm also lazy, which has been part of the problem for me, so my position now is that although I'm working, I don't consider myself to be in the rat race, I don't pay tax to the UK government, I'm not involved in any of the banking cartels and their scams, I have work which, though occasionally quite draining, allows me to be me, to express myself, and to make a contribution. I also get very well paid by local standards, so I can save. Is this my final job before death ? I bloody well hope not ! I'm still trying to find a big dream, one that's sustainable, in a place where I can live freely. I've been in this "planning phase" since my last disaster in 2007 (living in Peru), so that's 4 years, and I don't consider it wasted.

I'm talking too much now, I suppose the bottom line is - don't jump ship until you have something to jump onto, or until the universe pushes you overboard !

Good luck, there are probably loadsof us here who know how you feel ! ;)

sandy

18th May 2011, 07:26

Dear Nice1,

It sounds like you are pretty frustrated and getting more and more so with each passing day. My heart goes out to you. Although it may not seem like it you are in a good place.......let me explain.

Sometimes when we are not sure or have a defined vision of what we want and how to make it happen, our frustration level becomes greater and greater to the the point of taking the leap off the edge of the cliff or else go stark raving mad. By this point we have the courage and strength to land on our feet and deal with where we land. There is no real security as we never know what is around the corner for sure. There is an old saying. "we want our cake and eat it too" We can have it all but one piece at a time or else we may chock :)

Lots of great ideas have been presented but they all need that leap pf faith, FAITH IN YOURSELF. I believe in you :) DO YOU??

phillipbbg

18th May 2011, 07:45

Two bit of advice that have never failed to help me in my life thus far...

1) If you feel stuck increase the number of people you have in your life, often we are stuck because we keep talking to the same people who have the same opinion, increase the circle and you will find people with fresh ideas. (being part of this forum is a great start)
2) LIFE PROVIDES you just have to find this one out yourself, I once was trapped in a bad situation and had not eaten for a few days and at the time I said to myself what's the worst thing that can happen....I die.. well if that was meant to be so be it. From that moment it was like I got it.... and life has always provided... not quite the way I have often wanted but it has never let me down.

You are here for a reason just do it, even if you don't know what it is. We live in the present.
Live long and enjoy the journey

toothpick

18th May 2011, 12:04

Hello Nice1
I can remember, a life time ago, when I felt unhappy and uncontent, same as yourself.
For some reason I,m lucky enough to have a beautiful family that makes me very happy.
Also a lovely 70 acre farm, half sugarbush, and all the tractors and other toys that go along with it.
What is that old saying again " my pile of crap is bigger than your pile of crap".
In other words, I have a great big pile of crap.
And I can garantee that I am not always happy and content.
Sometimes the words are in your head but won,t come out of your mouth.
All I can say is this, happiness and contentment can only be found within yourself.
You can,t barter for it, you can not buy it. Look inside Nice1.
Good luck brother.

toothpick

sshenry

18th May 2011, 12:12

great post nice :)

One thing you need to remember is not to make one thing dependent on another. You say that the 8-5 job is killing you. So QUIT. Seriously, that is exactly what I did. I had a nice coushy job in a 9-5 job that was sucking my soul dry. You've put some money aside, so you won't starve if you quit. You say that you want to move out of the city, or at least get away from the rat race, but as long as you stay in the job, you won't.

You have to take the first step. You may very well be surprised at where the universe leads you when you show that you're willing to work with it.

loveandgratitude

18th May 2011, 12:18

A lot of people in Australia escape from here and go to Asia to teach English. There are many jobs in Asia for English Teachers. They pay about $30.00 US per hour. Some of the people I know live in Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos. They love it. You can live for very little in those countries. Food is cheap, accommodation is cheap and good, weather is great, people just wonderful.

Just thought i would add an other option for you to think about. Good Luck in the future.

White Phoenix

18th May 2011, 12:24

I feel for you Nice1, I'm in a similar position, although I have debt rather than savings!
I've never known what I want to do... but I'd be happy growing crops and building yurts, so if you're listening red_rose, I'm in! :)

jjl

18th May 2011, 12:42

For me, finding my way to freedom meant discovering if I could live with less. The less I thought I needed, the more I've gotten. I dont look at my austerity as being cheap, just being kinder to my planet. Only please don't be cheap when it comes to tips and charity.

SKIBADABOMSKI

18th May 2011, 13:05

If you don't want to travel to new countries then you could simply search for a really good camper van. Make sure it's a belter and a popular model in case of future parts. Thats your home sorted and you have wheels and there are thousands of wonderful places to go to just in the UK alone. Easy enough to go across to europe through the tunnel and have an adventure. Or be close at hand with your family and friends.

Money. There are many ways to make cash on the road nowadays. Many jobs here and there and also self employment is worth a big thought. What can you do? You'll want to have your money saved and need to make back the initial money for the camper. Once on the road you'd meet people that have ideas that'd blow you away. You'd be following your heart and you'd have an aura around you. This is where the magic starts. Never be small minded and test yourself.
You might surprise yourself with how well you enjoy being off the grid. There are many who are doing the same.

Your choice mate.. whatever you choose to do I hope it goes well and I hope you enjoy it. Theres always a way out and nothing is impossible. Don't give up the dream and good luck.

Ski-

Nice1

18th May 2011, 14:44

Thankyou everyone.

A lot of great info here, certainly food for thought.

I need to think a lot more about this, thanks to everyone for your great replies :)

9eagle9 does your friend get in any trouble for living in the lorry or is it just a case of being stealthy so nobody knows she is there?

Yes I like the camper idea and being on the road. I havn't passed my test yet so thats a challenge for the future but worth taking for that freedom. I tried to pass before but unfortunately I'm a nervous person in general so its been a bit difficult dealing with extreme anxiety in the test situation leading me to get 'brain block' and failed twice :(

red_rose

25th May 2011, 20:32

keep going with your driving tests.

I get anxiety, it took me 5 tries, but...I got there in the end!

There's nothing better than the taste of freedom being able to drive gives you.

red_rose

Poly Hedra

25th May 2011, 22:05

Hi Nice 1
I too understand where you are coming from. I would hope in the future to be self sufficient and get out of the rat race.
I have had an image in my mind for years about where I wanted to end up. Its taken a good few years to form some of the important aspects of that vision and its still a work in progress.

My advice to you is how I see the best route for getting out of the rat race.
This is how I have decided how to do it. I'm in between stages 2 and 3 at the mo :)

I think the single most important thing for in me as the first step to being self suffecient is to be self employed.

1. Find out what you are passionate about. - you have explained that you want to build machines. SO you need to figure out exactly what you need to do this. Logistics.
2. Figure out how to support yourself doing what you are passionate about - research, possilbly a course or two.... how to run a business etc
3. Do everything you can to become self employed

I figure that by becoming self employed I can decide how I want to spend my time, I'm not working so that somebody else can become rich from the sweat off my back.

4. Find like-minded individuals who want to live in a commnity that involves everyone having a role and responsibility in that community.

My main piece of advice (also) is that you have to think very long and hard about waht you really want. Then you need to picture every detail. Then you need to look forward to it and know it will happpen and that everything you do in the meantime, no matter how insignificant it may seem is all working towards that goal. And question whether what you are doing IS working towards that goal.

Hmm, ranting a bit too. :)
This is my plan, hope it helps.

cloud9

26th May 2011, 02:42

Nice1,
I have no money or savings but I have enough to live and I'll tell you this short story:
5 years ago I was into the Law of Attraction thing, at that time I bought a seminar from a lady called Carole Dore which is not as famous as the teachers of The Secret but she was offering this very expensive seminar, after thinking about it for a few days I decided to buy it and I enjoyed listening to it for months, every single day... I haven't been able to manifest wealth, perhaps I'm not consistent enough or I have deep rooted ideas about money, I don't know but....

One of the things in the seminar that stuck with me was this: YOUR JOB IS NOT YOUR SOURCE (OF INCOME), GOD IS....
and I have seen many people who don't really work full time and still they get by quite well, even better than well and I started to analyze what was going on, I work like crazy and I don't have money, they don't work much and they have enough even for vacations and stuff, what's the difference?

After a while I concluded that our priorities are the key. For a couple I know, their priority is to travel and see places and they have been doing it for years, they don't worry about a stable job or benefits, medical insurance, retirement and the rest, their minds are on what's the next place to go. When money is tight they work for a while and they travel again.

One of my girlfriends has been out of work for several years and still she always as enough money for going to the beauty salon every week to do her heir and nails, it doesn't matter if she has enough for the next meal, she just goes, because for her, that's her priority, the funny thing is that she has been living out of small jobs, always pays her mortgage and bills. I've been working for years and I never have money for those things.

One day I asked her how she did it and she answered with that part of the bible that says that the birds and animals don't have to work for food, etc. The trick is that she never ever worries about how to get money, she knows that what she needs will be provided, and she is not even a religious person.

My point is this: for some reason in your subconscious you have your priorities which are different from person to person, if you know in your heart that The Source or Universe will provide, it will... and the only way to do this is never ever worry, never ever think you don't have enough.

For the last 5 years I've been saying to myself that I have more than enough, I always have everything that I need, etc., and feel grateful for it, I say thank you many times a day and I do it about everything: the nice weather, my car (in fact I say to it that I love it very much and I'm grateful it always takes me everywhere and never gives me problems), I'm grateful for my family, mi dog, etc., and I always declare that I have plenty of money to pay everything I need and more and it has been that way since I started doing it.

I've been out of work for several months at a time, however somehow I always get the money I need. The problem I see is that you are somehow angry and upset because of the system, how after many years of saving you don't have enough yet, you feel trapped, stuck, you can't do what you want, etc.

Please change your thought to something like this: Thank you God, (spirit, universe, source, etc.) I don't know how but I know that you provide always for me, thank you for this or that and do it as often as you are aware you're thinking.

I have seen many miracles in my life (money wise) since I started doing this, mostly small but still very important for me, like when I need to pay bills for let's say $1.200 and I just have $300 in the bank.... I Start doing this even more often like every 5 minutes and I say that I always have more than I need, I'm abundant and so on, after a few days I go to the bank and I don't know how but my balance is now let's say $700, I keep on doing it and feeling grateful and somehow I receive a job (I'm an artist) and I get the money.

I know many skeptics would say that they would never trust in something like this when their families are at stake but Our Source is our Higher Self or God and it always provides for us, we think is our 9-5 job but that's our belief.

I still don't know how to be really wealthy but so far, it has worked very well. Again, the trick is that every single time a though comes to your mind like: I don't know how to do it, I don't have money, I'm out of work, etc., immediately change it to thank you because I know I have everything I need and more and say it very often, don't give your negative thoughts 2 seconds of your time, they'll grow...

I hope this is helpful for you, perhaps you're willing to try it you'll start see things changing for the best and very quickly. You got to trust life, you got to trust your Maker.

cloud9

26th May 2011, 03:02

After reading my post I realized that it gives the idea that I'm kind of poor, but that's not the true. I've never have had so much stuff in my life, more clothes, jewelry, shoes, food, etc., it's just than I don't have let's say $5.000 at any moment in the bank but I do have more than enough. Being grateful is the best thing to do.

TheTwo

26th May 2011, 03:32

Anchor

26th May 2011, 03:35

I'm sure many people here might have more knowledge than me.

I doubt that.

May I draw your attention to the last line of your signature :)

Artemesia

26th May 2011, 04:29

I realized as I graduated university with my (interesting but monetarily useless) degree in feminist/existentialist philosophy that the loop of working for the priviledge of having a home so you could work to live so you could..... was silly. I temporarily solved my issues by becoming what I termed a seasonal weasel. There is a veritable army of folks out there who work seasonal summer concession jobs in National Parks, as outdoor educators, as raft guides, climbing guides, wilderness trip guides, ski area workers etc etc. One works a 3-5 month season, then has a large 'off season' in which to do any number of useful things like do more adventuring, couch surf at the abodes of other people you've met all over the country/world through your exciting job, dirtbag it (live out of your converted van or pickup truck) at national forest camps, backroads, climbing venues, go backpacking (the ultimate one-bag life of ease, as kerouak would say) etc.

The money is not great. But when you work, it usually "includes" inexpensive shared housing and already-made-for-you meals in an employee dining program of sorts. Usually, you live remotely so spending your small paychecks on big city finery isn't an issue. With luck and saving, you will manage to have some amazing travels in your off time and manage to barely scrape through until you start work again. Financially shoddy, its a great way to diversify your life, get exposed to all kinds of cultures and ideas and EARTH WONDERS and escape the rat race, at least temporarily, in a hobo kind of way.

I did it for 7 1/2 years. When I grew tired of it and got a mortage and a marriage and became a mother, I s**t myself to think of all that great ramen noodle eating under the stars I'd given up to pay the bills. No comparison. Now I'm working on a way to convince my kids to come eat brown rice under the stars with me. Now that's evolution!

Artemesia

26th May 2011, 04:35

By the by, has anyone listened to Inelia's very useful "Reconnecting with the Spirit of Money" mini guided meditation she offers on her ascension101.com site?

I've just started working with it and it feels really right.

Might help some others viewing this thread with little more than gratitude and their $0.02 worth. (I'm in the same boat, but working on designing my clipper ship right now)

raymond

26th May 2011, 06:27

i think all of you can shelve your money-making ideas till after 2012..

cos i have a feeling that the nature of reality may change so much that money will be the last thing on our mind..

ViralSpiral

26th May 2011, 06:38

Loved your post Artemesia. Thank you :)

Nice1, there was another thread started a while back. Perhaps you can gain further insight, courage and hope...

Stepping out of Rat Race and Jumping into Real World (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19040-Stepping-out-of-Rat-Race-and-Jumping-into-Real-World)

meeradas

26th May 2011, 06:46

[...] evolove [...]

awesome term! Intended, right?!

Arrowwind

26th May 2011, 07:03

You have a skill so that is good. a skill that most people need help with. Are there any communes in UK or Wales? there use to be. Entering a commune may be an idea for you. You could have more free time and generally they are into gardens and self sufficiency

Lots of people retire in the US to RV parks. rent ranges from 4 to 600 a month... but I find them opressive... yet for some it is a stroke of freedom.

We got off the treadmill by working for a very long time, two of us, and making a good house sale. We worked and planned together to make it happen. Now we are fully out of debt and house is paid for. .. how long have you been working? do you have a helpmate? I don't know how either of us alone could have done what we did without each others help. It took us 26 years of focus plus a moderate inheritance to be on our way.

I dont know how people do it these days... guess mostly they don't

Of course we supported the war machine too with tax dollars... how to avoid that with out a prison sentence?

are you sure family is worth sticking around for? I know mine was not when I was young so I split... and traveled far to find my way and my good fortune... although I did not leave the US, I did leave them behind by 3,000 miles

I would not just quit my job. Take your days off and look around. Travel here and there. Look at real estate possibilities... look at self construction of your own small home. Look at RV parks... look at everything you can look at. Go to ashrams, schools, communes, small towns, big towns. take notes. decide what pleases you. start a seeking adventure. When you find the place that attract you and can determine a way to be there then quite your job.

Work is too hard to find these days. You dont want to squander your savings without a plan. If the plan comes after the savings is gone then you are sorry.

In many ways the looking can be just as fun as the having. we looked for years before we found our place... taking weekends to travel to neighboring states or communities..

Ive heard of jobs teaching english in foreign countries. some pay well. some don't

some people work in National Parks in the US. they actually live at them with their RV. Dont know if they have that in your country.

Arrowwind

26th May 2011, 07:22

............geesh, I just found out that you are 28 years old... at that point in my life I was traveling all the time, living on a shoe string from lowly jobs and havig a great time exploring life and the world. Communes and ashrams were my thing to do.
I had no money to speak off and had everything I wanted or needed.

I think what you need it to develop your vision, take a break, travel some. then get back to work somewhere on something you love. Life doesnt really begin till your 50 anyway;)

ViralSpiral

27th May 2011, 08:06

another clip on Lammas eco-village in Pembrokeshire

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gardening-blog/video/2011/mar/22/lammas-eco-village-off-grid-video?INTCMP=SRCH

Deedee

27th May 2011, 17:10