NPR "fresh air" story about Area 51

[woodshreder]

They are airing this story on Npr and the story is definitely a twist on most conspiracy theories concerning what really crashed at Area 51
The story is one that will make you wonder why this hasn't been more mainstream



http://m.npr.org/story/13?url=/programs/fresoh-air/

[ann444]

And the twist is that the source, one survivor of 5, who worked with the child-like pilots, states that these are humans who have been altered geneticaly and /or surgically to look like what we call grays. The program was started by Nazi scientists and continued with the Russians after the war, headed by Dr. Mengele. The Roswell crashed craft was a Russian craft and the information was kept secret because we continued the program.

[giovonni]

Thanks woodsherder :)

You can listen to the show here;
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=3&islist=true&id=13&d=05-17-2011

[ann444]

Woodshreder, You said that you wonder why this story hasn't gone more mainstream, I wonder why it hasn't had much attention on this forum, the revelation that our country is manufacturing from humans "grays" who abduct other humans and experiment on them is horrendous. I haven't seen it on other conspiracy websites either, yet the source of information is reliable, what is this apathy about?

[Lord Sidious]

Maybe people look at the brief intro, groan and move on?

[woodshreder]

Lord Sidious ,can you give an example of an intro that may have been more appropriate ?
Maybe some forum members need a more sensationalized intro to capture their interest
BTW fellow member giovanni re-posted this information in the gilliand ranch thread if you want to see the information posted from a different member.

[Lord Sidious]

Lord Sidious ,can you give an example of an intro that may have been more appropriate ?
Maybe some forum members need a more sensationalized intro to capture their interest
BTW fellow member giovanni re-posted this information in the gilliand ranch thread if you want to see the information posted from a different member.

Sorry, that wasn't a criticism of you.
And I meant the post after yours, going by that, I didn't bother to see the vid.
I mean come on, how would you surgically alter people to be greys?
And next thing mengele is the real one behind frankenstein.
We have to get to the truth, not what we want to believe is truth.

[ann444]

The idea that one could not alter humans to look like grays is naive. we've had mermaids, satyrs, monsters and many stories about grays storing human body parts. If they can watch you at a distance using satellite, if they can read your mind, if they can know what you're saying on you cellphone, if they can send out "channeled" messages programming, if they can create a Manchurian candidate, they can alter the human form to look like a Gray. A Gray looks very much like a human fetus. Many have said that the big black eyes are goggles. I don't find it unbelievable and the source, who has been quiet all these years, is convincing. Annie Jacobsen is a respected journalist.

[13th Warrior]

Interesting theory...there is an X-Files episode where experiments were conducted on humans to make them impervious to radiation; the resulting human looked very much grey alien.

NPR has aired quite a few of these type programs; i recently listened to a program taling about how sick the people from the Gulf of Mexico are from cleaning up the oil spill.

[Kronuise]

For some reason the link has been changed?

Found the real page here

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136356848/area-51-uncensored-was-it-ufos-or-the-ussr

[ann444]

And here is the website where John Stewart interviews Annie Jacobsen on the Daily show. It is hopeful that NPR and The Daily Show are covering some of this material. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-17-2011/annie-jacobsen?xrs=rss_tdsvids

[Sierra]

Hmmmm... I had to quit watching it after a few minutes which in my case usually means some part of me thinks Annie Jacobsen is lying. Body language and metacommunication can be the trigger that sets off my alarm bells.

Yes, Stalin may have sent a flying saucer lol, but to say that is the be all and end all of Area 51 ... how specious is that?

Just my opinion ... :)

Sierra

[stegosaur]

Thanks for posting interesting story.

I forget who but a writer always has a saying that 'the lie is different at every level'

This story is based on one source who probably lied to.

Q)What that?

A) A flying saucer with children like Aliens, but don't worry it came from Russia.

That's an ingenious lie really if one thinks about it because in that time period
a) The person would keep their mouth shut - they did not want to be talking about 'Commie' Russia stuff, very unpatriotic
b) Maintains the lie that hey, even though we see billions and billions of stars, we are in fact the only intelligent life in the universe.

[noprophet]

So basically we have three contradicting theories each containing possibly pieces of the truth.

1) The grays come from what we call Zeta Reticuli; a planet called Serpo Jadui to them.
2) The grays are us in the future. We've realized how to manipulate the fabric of our universe 45k years in the future and have traveled back in order to solve a wide-spread genetic disorder.
3) The grays are actually a result of soviet experimentation on children and an attempt to create a false threat to the American public.

I definitely feel like at least the beginning of that interview was very dis-info based. Just a feeling. Towards the end however she seemed to be opening up a bit more.

[Nyce555]

So basically we have three contradicting theories each containing possibly pieces of the truth.

1) The grays come from what we call Zeta Reticuli; a planet called Serpo Jadui to them.
2) The grays are us in the future. We've realized how to manipulate the fabric of our universe 45k years in the future and have traveled back in order to solve a wide-spread genetic disorder.
3) The grays are actually a result of soviet experimentation on children and an attempt to create a false threat to the American public.

I definitely feel like at least the beginning of that interview was very dis-info based. Just a feeling. Towards the end however she seemed to be opening up a bit more.


I agree. I sensed disinfo. It sounded like she was really trying to convince everyone that this is the real truth of what happened without a doubt because of this unknown source. To me, it just doesn't explain other people's experiences with the grays and other ETs all over the globe, not to mention the ancient cizilizations who have created artifacts/cave paintings of beings that are clearly not human claming them to be visitors from the stars/gods. It explains one incident (Roswell/Area 51), but doesn't explain any others.

[ceetee9]

I wouldn't hold much credence with this one. In one fell swoop this unknown (or little known) columnist, Annie Jacobsen, refutes decades worth of research and dozens of very credible investigators, military personnel, witnesses, etc.--essentially saying they were all lying or incompetent. In a quick search as to who Ms. Jacobsen was (since I never heard of her) I found another bogus story on Snopes that she did for WomensWallStreet.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/skyterror.asp). She couldn't even get the truth about why area 51 is called area 51 right (the name came from the Nevada Test Site map that divided the nuclear test sites into numerical areas of which area 51 was one).