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ktlight
18th May 2011, 06:59
For your information:


The Irish republican dissidents have held a “mock trial” for an effigy of Queen Elizabeth II in Dublin on the eve of her first visit to the Ireland Republic.


Dozens of supports of Irish Socialist Republican group Eirigi gathered outside the GOP on O'Connell Street to witness the symbolic beheading of the Queen and a “mock trial” as part of protests ahead of her visit to the country.

The group read out the crimes committed by the monarchy, including 12 charges the UK Empire was subjected to in Ireland and everywhere in the world.

The charges included the Great Famine to the execution of rebels from 1916 to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan an now in Libya.

After the Queen's effigy was found guilty by all the attending people, she was lead to the guillotine and beheaded symbolically.

Eirigi chairman Brian Leeson said Eirigi oppose the visit for three reasons.

"Firstly we oppose it because it is a waste of money. The second reason we oppose this is because of British imperialism, but most importantly we oppose this because she is the commander-in-chief of the British military who continue to occupy the six counties," he said.

The visit of Queen Elizabeth II would be the first visit of a reigning British monarch to Ireland since the visit of Edward VII in 1903.

Meanwhile, the Irish Republicans unleashed a security alert in London on Monday when they used a coded bomb threat to warn the Scotland Yard.

In the first coded warning in Britain for at least 10 years, dissident republicans made a telephone call to the police on Sunday night and warned that a bomb has been planted in the main road to Buckingham Palace.

The ambiguous threat did not specify a location or time but sparked several operations during a tense day in central London.

And, a swathe of the capital between Buckingham Palace and Trafalgar Square was shut down for almost eight hours as jittery police dealt with a series of suspicious incidents.

Security expert Crispin Black said the Queen's historic visit to Ireland has caused widespread anger among Republican extremist groups.

He said dissident Republicans were 'extremely angry' about the Queen's visit.

“It is their way of showing that they are in a position to make these visits more difficult,” he added.

Last month the Real IRA said the Queen was 'wanted for war crimes' and called on 'all self-respecting Irishmen and women' to resist the 'insult' of her visit.


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fathertedsmate
18th May 2011, 12:36
Its been building up slowly for over a year, pipe bomb in school playground, not the place dissidents leave such things,it got the required headlines and has been building since, research stakeknife,they knew every move made since 1978 and allowed them to happen, nothing has changed since

Conaire
18th May 2011, 13:47
The Queen and her huge entourage have been passing by my house for the last two days, coming and going from the house she's staying, close to our President's residence. I can tell you that the streets are lined with well wishers. The protesters are a tiny minority. Anyone I talked to about her visit welcomed it. People's reactions about the visit, in my experience went from excitment to being nonchalant, I never experienced anger. The significance of this visit, imo, is that we can welcome the figurehead of our greatest oppressor, and for those that don't know Irish history and it's relationship with the Crown, it's a harsh, bloody history. It's a sign our wounds have healed.

This being said, I also think it's important to add that I live in the South of Ireland and we really have lived very different lives here than in the North, where most of the trouble has been happening in recent history. And just because I welcomed the Queen's visit doesn't mean I think Ireland should not be a unified whole.

ktlight
18th May 2011, 14:32
The Queen and her huge entourage have been passing by my house for the last two days, coming and going from the house she's staying, close to our President's residence. I can tell you that the streets are lined with well wishers. The protesters are a tiny minority. Anyone I talked to about her visit welcomed it. People's reactions about the visit, in my experience went from excitment to being nonchalant, I never experienced anger. The significance of this visit, imo, is that we can welcome the figurehead of our greatest oppressor, and for those that don't know Irish history and it's relationship with the Crown, it's a harsh, bloody history. It's a sign our wounds have healed.

This being said, I also think it's important to add that I live in the South of Ireland and we really have lived very different lives here than in the North, where most of the trouble has been happening in recent history. And just because I welcomed the Queen's visit doesn't mean I think Ireland should not be a unified whole.

I remember starting to read a book on Irish history, but one the first page, having read about the Pope's firm promise and then reneging on that firm promise to allow the King of the time to send in troops to take over Northern Ireland, I could not read any more, and then there was the potato famine. I still call Ireland Eire. My father used to sing Irish rebel songs to me, I am told.

Conaire
18th May 2011, 15:50
The "Irish famine" is a misnoner. Huge amounts of food were exported out of Ireland during the "Great Hunger", leaving only potato crops to feed the Irish people, during which time there was a potato disease called blight that wiped out the crop. As a result about one third of the population were denied their staple. Reports suggest one million people died of starvation, all the while food was being exported out of the country.

ktlight
18th May 2011, 15:54
The "Irish famine" is a misnoner. Huge amounts of food were exported out of Ireland during the "Great Hunger", leaving only potato crops for feed the Irish people, during which time there was a potato disease called blight that wiped out the crop. As a result about one third of the population was denied their staple. Reports suggest one million people died of starvation, all the while food was being exported out of the country.

I was told that the biggest export was potatoes.
Yes, and that caused my ancestors to emigrate to USA where my father was born.

Lord Sidious
18th May 2011, 16:24
The Queen and her huge entourage have been passing by my house for the last two days, coming and going from the house she's staying, close to our President's residence. I can tell you that the streets are lined with well wishers. The protesters are a tiny minority. Anyone I talked to about her visit welcomed it. People's reactions about the visit, in my experience went from excitment to being nonchalant, I never experienced anger. The significance of this visit, imo, is that we can welcome the figurehead of our greatest oppressor, and for those that don't know Irish history and it's relationship with the Crown, it's a harsh, bloody history. It's a sign our wounds have healed.

This being said, I also think it's important to add that I live in the South of Ireland and we really have lived very different lives here than in the North, where most of the trouble has been happening in recent history. And just because I welcomed the Queen's visit doesn't mean I think Ireland should not be a unified whole.

I remember starting to read a book on Irish history, but one the first page, having read about the Pope's firm promise and then reneging on that firm promise to allow the King of the time to send in troops to take over Northern Ireland, I could not read any more, and then there was the potato famine. I still call Ireland Eire. My father used to sing Irish rebel songs to me, I am told.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT0yoo9B2Bc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tnb2CTfY0g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKMbWUieQE4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x543HE6i28o
Watch this one VERY closely and read my sig at 2.20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jg-Lhlx8uBA
This is how our own were treated by ''the crown'' and a lot don't know.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGuj2lztXM
And when you aren't looking, the Yankees will steal your Fenians away.

Ní siocháin go saoirse

http://images9.cpcache.com/product/102071709v5_480x480_Front.jpg


How dare they let that slag onto our soil. Our own died there to keep them out, not so their descendants could welcome the bastards back again.
The shame of it.
She can stick her crown up her **** and I would be more than happy to help.

I don't support the ira of recent years, but I do venerate the memory of the Óglaigh na hÉireann.

SteveX
18th May 2011, 16:39
So much for tolerance and understand...how rude

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif

Lord Sidious
18th May 2011, 16:47
So much for tolerance and understand...how rude

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif

If you mean me, how many of your kin were starved, beaten, killed and transported to far away lands to be used as slave labour?
My kin were lower in America than the black slaves, they had value, we were expendable.
Don't speak to me of tolerance and the crown.
This isn't against the english the scots or the welsh, it is the crown and the system.
That same system has you by the proverbials too.

SteveX
18th May 2011, 17:01
Your point of being gripped by the short and curly is noted and I'm pleased you added that. History cannot be changed but the way we make history can :)

Lord Sidious
18th May 2011, 17:11
Your point of being gripped by the short and curly is noted and I'm pleased you added that. History cannot be changed but the way we make history can :)

I was trying to be a bit more respectful, whilst getting my point across.
I was rude to you once before and I didn't want to repeat that again.
You are as much as a victim of ''the crown'' as many others.

Conaire
18th May 2011, 23:07
So much for tolerance and understand...how rude

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif

If you mean me, how many of your kin were starved, beaten, killed and transported to far away lands to be used as slave labour?
My kin were lower in America than the black slaves, they had value, we were expendable.
Don't speak to me of tolerance and the crown.
This isn't against the english the scots or the welsh, it is the crown and the system.
That same system has you by the proverbials too.

I think it's important to remember history, to remember how badly our ancestors were treated in their/our own country by a forigen hand. It was atrocious, without doubt. The British Crown wreaked havoc accross the globe, Ireland being just one of their conquests. Under British rule the Irish could not even own land in Ireland, how crazy is it! Anyone with a sense of justice would be angered by how they/we were treated.

But that is history. To put energy into hating and vitriol about something that happened a long time ago, when there are atrocious events happening on the planet right this minute, equally as atrocious or more so, seems to me like a waste of energy. We need to learn from history and focus the anger in making a change in the world today.

I'm not a royalist, I'm a proud Irish man, proud in part because the Irish freedom fighters were the ones to break the back of British colonial rule and the first to gain independence from it. (South of Ireland that is). That being said, I would not want to wish harm on the Queen, or anyone for that matter. Peace starts at home, right!

I do love those rebel songs though, it's amazing how our spirit was never broken.

Lord Sidious
18th May 2011, 23:42
So much for tolerance and understand...how rude

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/snapoutofit.gif

If you mean me, how many of your kin were starved, beaten, killed and transported to far away lands to be used as slave labour?
My kin were lower in America than the black slaves, they had value, we were expendable.
Don't speak to me of tolerance and the crown.
This isn't against the english the scots or the welsh, it is the crown and the system.
That same system has you by the proverbials too.

I think it's important to remember history, to remember how badly our ancestors were treated in their/our own country by a forigen hand. It was atrocious, without doubt. The British Crown wreaked havoc accross the globe, Ireland being just one of their conquests. Under British rule the Irish could not even own land in Ireland, how crazy is it! Anyone with a sense of justice would be angered by how they/we were treated.

But that is history. To put energy into hating and vitriol about something that happened a long time ago, when there are atrocious events happening on the planet right this minute, equally as atrocious or more so, seems to me like a waste of energy. We need to learn from history and focus the anger in making a change in the world today.

I'm not a royalist, I'm a proud Irish man, proud in part because the Irish freedom fighters were the ones to break the back of British colonial rule and the first to gain independence from it. (South of Ireland that is). That being said, I would not want to wish harm on the Queen, or anyone for that matter. Peace starts at home, right!

I do love those rebel songs though, it's amazing how our spirit was never broken.

The treaty that cost us Michael Collins left the Irish Free State as a dominion of the crown, believe it or not.
There was no independance.
And she is one of the top dirtbags behind the crap going on around the world today.