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ktlight
22nd May 2011, 07:48
This came in an email to me:

According to Hindu legend, there was once a time when all human beings were gods, but they so abused their divinity that Brahma, the chief god, decided to take it away from them and hide it where it could never be found.
Where to hide their divinity was the question. So Brahma called a council of the gods to help him decide. "Let's bury it deep in the earth," said the gods. But Brahma answered, "No, that will not do because humans will dig into the earth and find it." Then the gods said, "Let's sink it in the deepest ocean." But Brahma said, "No, not there, for they will learn to dive into the ocean and will find it." Then the gods said, "Let's take it to the top of the highest mountain and hide it there." But once again Brahma replied, "No, that will not do either, because they will eventually climb every mountain and once again take up their divinity." Then the gods gave up and said, "We do not know where to hide it, because it seems that there is no place on earth or in the sea that human beings will not eventually reach."
Brahma thought for a long time and then said, "Here is what we will do. We will hide their divinity deep in the center of their own being, for humans will never think to look for it there."
All the gods agreed that this was the perfect hiding place, and the deed was done. And since that time humans have been going up and down the earth, digging, diving, climbing, and exploring--searching for something already within themselves.
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greybeard
22nd May 2011, 08:12
Yes and how many look within.
Its an old story but ever green.
Basically we lack humility and want to control our own lives or get some one else to fix our problems.
Very few acknowledge the Sovereignty of God.
Very few have the humility to surrender their will to God.
Thy will be done not mine ---- thats what Jesus said on the cross
Im not of any religion but the teaching of Jesus have been of great help to me along with Indian Sages.
The power lies in surender that is the paradox.

Chris

greybeard
22nd May 2011, 09:00
Excellent thread Ktlight
Thanks
Chris

ghostrider
22nd May 2011, 12:18
are own being is our greatest challenge, agreed look in the mirror and know thyself, achieve a sense of infinity and go exploring you will love what you find. happy hunting. when we can change ourselves we can change the world.

Anno
22nd May 2011, 12:59
According to Hindu legend, there was once a time when all human beings were gods [...] So Brahma called a council of the gods to help him decide. [...]

Could the first 'gods' (refering to humans) be a mis-translation? If we were gods then surely we'd be equal to Brahma and the other gods, so why couldn't we stop our 'powers' being taken away, or how would the other gods have that power over us? It doesn't seem to make sense, unless we were demi-gods and the word has been translated incorrectly or part is missing.

Or am I just being fussy?

ktlight
22nd May 2011, 15:49
According to Hindu legend, there was once a time when all human beings were gods [...] So Brahma called a council of the gods to help him decide. [...]

Could the first 'gods' (refering to humans) be a mis-translation? If we were gods then surely we'd be equal to Brahma and the other gods, so why couldn't we stop our 'powers' being taken away, or how would the other gods have that power over us? It doesn't seem to make sense, unless we were demi-gods and the word has been translated incorrectly or part is missing.

Or am I just being fussy?

Good question. Are you in a position to find out?

Jetsam
22nd May 2011, 16:19
'It is said that even though the Whole is taken from the Whole, the Whole remains the Whole. There can be no additions and no subtractions, the wholeness of the Whole remains unimpaired. Whatever line you may follow represents a particular aspect of it. Each method has its own mantras, its own ideas and states, its beliefs and rejections -to what purpose? To realise Him - your own Self.'

-Sri Anandamayi Ma

This is going around in my head for days now.

Lettherebelight
22nd May 2011, 16:30
Along with Greybeard, I say great thread Ktlight. Very interesting indeed, and I hope you don't mind my input here.

The word 'Hindu' itself is a misnomer. It manifested as a linguistic designation of the 'people who lived over the Indus River' by the conquering Persians, roughly 1000 years ago. Prior to that, the indigenous people referred to their understanding of human life as 'Varnashrama Dharma', in accordance with the Vedas.

According to the Vedas, in particular the Srimad Bhagavatam, widely available to the human population now (benevolently translated from Sanskrit by A. C. Baktivedanta Prabhupada), the origins of this universe began with the first created
being, Brahma, who is clearly explained to be the architect of this universe, finding the inspiration necessary for creation, after the performance of great austerities.

I must also state here, that Brahma is in no way an ordinary being, his material
body is entirely composed of the most subtle of material energies, intelligence...imagine that! Indeed, the planet on which he resides is predominantly composed of this element.

The beings he manifested were fully enlightened, self-realised souls, their main
purpose was to populate the universe. Were they gods?...perhaps no more than any of us could be!

All this information (and much more!) is available to everyone in the Srimad Bhagavatam...well worth checking out! :)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Srimad-Bhagavatam-Canto-1-Pt-1/dp/0912776277/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306081676&sr=1-2

Peace of Mind
22nd May 2011, 17:56
Yes, this true ktlight...

All religions and most ancient script hint at this. It takes great faith in one self to obtain their power, in doing so; they would have gained the responsibility to control it…such powers that can bring forth beauty and destruction on the grandest of scales.

Observing life in all of its trepidation, procrastination, envy, arrogance, insensitivities…I ponder if such power is truly wanted. The amount of self reservation I’ve witnessed obviously can be seen as the most detriment. The masses are accustomed to disempowerment…they’re always looking outside of self…becoming a follower, a believer in someone else’s uniqueness because they are unaware of their own.

Love of self is really the key thou, many may think they love themselves but not deeply. An example: Augmentation of natural appearances (daily or permanent) exemplifies a need to satisfy others…only to gain admiration. Self pity is subconsciously embedded in to the minds of many; rarely do they confirm their own beliefs by not seeking outside validation. If the universe is as vast as they say…possibilities are endless. Although creativity seems to be lacking… this is payable to immense denial.

When you awaken, wash your face, recognize the God creator in the mirror, and love him/her deeply. Once this is realized, love for others become apparent…therefore creating mutual interests that will aid in accessing your true potential. Without Unity Respect and Love...all is lost.

There is no safer place to hide such power. The species will have to prove to themselves how worthy they really are by picking each other up instead of putting each other down. Balance. Stop putting yourself down and get off of your high horse.

Peace

aqr
22nd May 2011, 18:36
A Hindu legend with all the attributes of truth that is too much for any who is blinded by the darkness outside. We all were out there searching until a switch was tripped in our base programming and the antivirus program started running. Now we humans are remembering walking up and down our inner earth, digging, diving, climbing, and exploring--finding all that is already within ourselves.

This inner us, we must relearn, then share it with our brethren, so that they can all see that we never left home just fell in a dreadful sickness of the mind and heart. The blinders and stupor have been removed from us, now lets shine the light so others can see how it was and is done. Healers from out of Zion?.

Anno
22nd May 2011, 20:14
According to Hindu legend, there was once a time when all human beings were gods [...] So Brahma called a council of the gods to help him decide. [...]

Could the first 'gods' (refering to humans) be a mis-translation? If we were gods then surely we'd be equal to Brahma and the other gods, so why couldn't we stop our 'powers' being taken away, or how would the other gods have that power over us? It doesn't seem to make sense, unless we were demi-gods and the word has been translated incorrectly or part is missing.

Or am I just being fussy?

Good question. Are you in a position to find out?

Potentially, I guess. If I learnt to read Sanskrit or found someone who could. Then found an original copy and looked at all other uses of the word in various contexts. Compared that to other documents from that culture that also used the word and similar words. That might take a while.

Although I've realised another possible explanation for it. My understanding of the word 'god' itself could be flawed. If a god isn't an all powerful being then there isn't a problem with one set of gods having power over another set.

nomadguy
22nd May 2011, 20:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3yVwIshUZc

OnyxKnight
22nd May 2011, 20:50
Great thread Ktlight.

In regards to the Hindu legend - It has a tone of symbolism imbedded in it, that can easily be deciphered, but once you get certain words right, its dead on. Its connected with what I am writing about the Ancient History of Earth, a post that I will soon make, and what my contacts have told me about it.

Can I use this in that thread? Use this thread as a reference?

Lettherebelight
22nd May 2011, 21:25
This is a very nice presentation on the suppression of Vedic knowledge...not too long (20 min), and very interesting.

Vedic knowledge is there for everyone...every human being on this planet has a right to its free access...so don't let anyone stand in your way... go for it! :rockon:

xySF50Yyg1k

Anno
22nd May 2011, 23:10
This is a very nice presentation on the suppression of Vedic knowledge...not too long (20 min), and very interesting.

Vedic knowledge is there for everyone...every human being on this planet has a right to its free access...so don't let anyone stand in your way... go for it! :rockon:

That's a great video, ty! I'm now downloading the full set of podcasts. 60 hours worth lol, that should keep me busy!

They're here if anyone wants them, but you have to register first...

http://www.esotericteaching.org/apps/your-perfect-body/

Lettherebelight
23rd May 2011, 00:02
Right, Anno :)

No one needs to be put off accessing this knowledge due to not being able to read Sanskrit anymore. There are many good, authoritative translations available now, if you go looking..you will be guided from within.

Remember, Vedic culture was once prominent all over the world, this knowledge is for all human beings, not just the elite.

Teakai
23rd May 2011, 00:15
are own being is our greatest challenge, agreed look in the mirror and know thyself, achieve a sense of infinity and go exploring you will love what you find. happy hunting. when we can change ourselves we can change the world.

I was thinking about this ghostrider and for the sake of discussion I will say - that to change oneself is still dealing with ego. Which is not so bad - if you decide to take ego from being uncaring and selfish and use ego to be kind and giving - then that is not a negative thing.

To know ourselves is a different matter - from there we no longer desire to change the world. We are in the world, but not of it.

ktlight
23rd May 2011, 11:46
Great thread Ktlight.

In regards to the Hindu legend - It has a tone of symbolism imbedded in it, that can easily be deciphered, but once you get certain words right, its dead on. Its connected with what I am writing about the Ancient History of Earth, a post that I will soon make, and what my contacts have told me about it.

Can I use this in that thread? Use this thread as a reference?

You are free to do what you want. I don't own anything.