Iran accused of September 11 role

[Calz]

Please tell me "they" could not come up with something better than this to, at long last, have a go at Iran??? Could this be why Osama was (laughably) ***killed***??? This is getting damn lame. They should hire some script writers from hollywood.

Perhaps just a blip from msm reminding us who the "bogey man" is now that OBL is no longer the illusion of choice ... or perhaps something more???



NEW YORK: Two defectors from Iran's intelligence service have testified that Iranian officials knew in advance about the attacks of September 11, 2001, says a US court filing that seeks damages for Iran's ''direct support for, and sponsorship of, the most deadly act of terrorism in American history''.

One of the defectors also claimed that Iran was involved in designing the attacks, the filing said. The defectors' identities and testimony were not revealed in the filing but were being submitted to a judge under seal, said lawyers who brought the original suit against Iran on behalf of families of dozens of September 11 victims.

The suit says Iran and Hezbollah, the Lebanese militant group with close ties to Tehran, helped al-Qaeda with planning the attacks and with the hijackers' training and travel. After the attacks, the suit says, Iran and Hezbollah helped al-Qaeda operatives and their families to escape, in some cases providing them with a safe haven in Iran.

The question of an Iranian connection to the attacks was raised by the national September 11 commission and has long been debated. Al-Qaeda, which adheres to a radical Sunni theology, routinely denounces the Shiite branch of Islam that holds power in Iran, and the terrorist network's branch in Iraq has often made Shiites targets of bombings. But intelligence officials have long believed there has been limited, wary co-operation between al-Qaeda and Iran against the US as a common enemy.

The lawsuit also names as defendants Iranian officials and ministries, as well as Hezbollah, al-Qaeda and the Taliban, among others. The families' lawyers have asked for a default judgment against the defendants, which have not responded to the suit. Even if there were such a judgment, legal experts say it would not be easy to collect monetary damages.

In their court papers, the lawyers assert that Imad Mugniyah, as the military chief of Hezbollah, was a terrorist agent for Iran, and that he travelled to Saudi Arabia in 2000 to help with preparations for the September 11 attacks.

Mugniyah, killed in 2008, had been accused by US officials of planning a series of terrorist attacks and kidnappings, including the bombings of the US embassy and marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983.

The September 11 commission report said there was ''strong evidence Iran facilitated the transit of al-Qaeda members into and out of Afghanistan before [the attacks], and that some of these were future [September 11] hijackers''.

But the commission said it had ''found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning for what later became'' the September 11 attacks and that the ''topic requires further investigation by the US government''.

The New York Times





Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/iran-accused-of-september-11-role-20110520-1ewq7.html#ixzz1N5WYYnAl

[g.k.r]

they been planning a war with iran for long time i think. maybe this is the start of it

they still wont admit it was a controlled demolition, what about building 7,, who did that 1?

[Mostafa]

Khatami was the president in Iran when 9/11 happened. He was known for trying to reach out to West for negotiations and diplomatic solutions. He once was severely censured by the "supreme" leader for trying to get to talk with the states. even if Tehran's regime had a role in 9/11, I'm sure he didn't know. The leader has his own dogs though.

[ViralSpiral]

This has more credibility.....


http://moblog.net/media/r/e/a/reading/grimms-complete-fairy-tales.jpg

[Calz]

Khatami was the president in Iran when 9/11 happened. He was known for trying to reach out to West for negotiations and diplomatic solutions. He once was severely censured by the "supreme" leader for trying to get to talk with the states. even if Tehran's regime had a role in 9/11, I'm sure he didn't know. The leader has his own dogs though.

To be sure ... i am in *no way* suggesting Iran had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11 (just as I said from the start regarding Osama and Sadam).

I am merely having a laugh at this story being released *now* and wondering why as I pull on my tin foil hat. :tinfoil3:

[Charlie Pecos]

Well that is odd. It makes no mention of others who knew prior to 9-11, namely George Bush, Dick Cheney, the Joint Chiefs, and the CIA.

Golly gosh gee wiz, it's like their prepping us for something!

[Calz]

Could be simply another drumbeat of the social programming of the global masses into the ptb/w armageddon wet dream.

Now that the May 21st "end o dah world" has come and gone ... it is interesting that this story has developed recently.

Comforting to know people in leadership around the world are "summoning dark forces." Again ... no knock on Iran. Plenty of stories about other leaders doing this sort of thing (and worse).



Reports of the Arrest of Ahmadinejad's 'Exorcist' Fuel Concerns About Iran's Leadership

A mysterious man known by some as the Iranian president’s “exorcist” has been arrested, in the latest sign that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s involvement with purveyors of the so-called “dark arts” is raising concerns among Iran’s leadership.

Abbas Ghaffari, described as Ahmadinejad’s “exorcist” or “jinn (genie) catcher” is reportedly among a number of people in Ahmadinejad’s circle who have been arrested lately, amid reports of continuing strains between the president and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. As is typical in Iran, details on the timing and specific charges behind the arrests are somewhat murky.

It’s also not clear from what or whom Ghaffari was protecting the president, and what he may have been doing to accomplish that aim. What does is clearer is that a particular target in the arrests is Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, the president’s right-hand man, who has been marginalized more recently by Khamenei. Most of the arrests are said to be Mashaei associates within Ahmadinejad’s inner circle.

In a fiery speech Tuesday in the Iranian holy city of Qom, Mojtaba Zolnour, Khamenei’s representative in the Revolutionary Guard, said he asked Ahmadinejad: “What do you see in this Mashaei, other than links to exorcists, soothsayers and fortune tellers? … They come and gurgle on about his prophecies, and Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks he has divine knowledge.”

Ahmadinejad has also frequently raised concerns with what some see as his obsession over the concept of the “12th Imam,” a belief among some Muslims that a leader who has been in hiding since 869 will return and unite the world under the banner of Islam.

Believers say the 12th Imam will only appear during a time of worldwide chaos, however, leading some to fear Ahmadinejad would deliberately act to destabilize the international situation in the hopes of sparking the imam’s return. Ahmadinejad has reportedly stabilized a rift with Kahmenei, following a nearly two-week sustained sulk that kept him out of his office.

But the same apparently can’t be said for those arrested. Superstition and mysticism are to an extent vestiges of pre-Islamic Iranian culture. And while the Islamic system officially shuns them, a significant number of Iranians may share some of these unorthodox beliefs.

Nor do many Iranians think such beliefs exist only within the their own culture.

“The reality of conjuring ‘jinn’ is not exclusive to our society,” said Morteza Nabavi, a member of the Expediency Council, which mediates between the Iranian parliament and the Guardian Council and who is also managing director of Resalat newspaper. “In other places too, catching jinn and eliciting their help is also relevant.”

But that doesn’t mean the proponents of such beliefs should be running a government, according to Nabavi. “The deviant group that have recently been mentioned have reached out to others … and they have even influenced the president and gained his support.” Despite the fact that Ahmadinejad is at the center of this controversy, there are limits to how seriously others in the regime are willing to damage him.

He remains the most visible public face of the Islamic Republic. But by arresting and humiliating those around him, particularly Mashaei, the president’s detractors cause chaos without toppling the country’s political foundations.

It’s not the first time Ahmadinejad and his circle has been cast under the shadow of “dark arts.”

A campaign film for the reformist candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, from whom many Iranians believe the 2009 election was stolen, plays up the mystic bogeyman.

Mousavi says in the ad, “The next government will be the government of reason. Not a government of soothsayers and palm readers.”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/06/reports-arrest-ahmadinejads-exorcist-fuels-concerns-irans-leadership/

[sshenry]

You know, of course, that it is believed by many that the American capitalist economy is un-sustainable without war, yes? Osama served his purpose as a villain, but we've milked that until the poor cow is bone dry. Now we need a new villain, and Iran will do nicely.

[Mad Hatter]

So Ahmadinejad drew the short straw and gets to play the new poster boy... wonder if his jinn catcher failed to warn him this was coming? :eek:

[bennycog]

anyone here from the iranian government who would like to tell us the real deal? i mean what is the proposed false reaction to a false statement?

[Franny]

Iran could lodge a complaint and demand a hearing with the UN spilling what most of the rest of the world already knows.

[Mostafa]

anyone here from the iranian government who would like to tell us the real deal? i mean what is the proposed false reaction to a false statement?

2 days after it was declared Iran had a part in 9/11 Iranian intelligence agency said they had caught 30 CIA spies in Iran. No wonder since as Mad Hatter said we got jinns running things now.
There's great fracture between Ahmadinejad people and the leader's and they're at each other's throat now. This regime is crumbling from within. Only a matter of time now.

[Cidersomerset]

Ha ha ha ha ha what a load of 'Bull_ _'ony' Unfortunatly they are playing out there games in full view of the world knowing the corporate press are so dumbed down and compromised at the top . The few mavericks putting out truth are ridiculed.
Bless Alex jones, he is persistant. I'm not a right winger by nature but have deffinatley taken more notice of his reporting on the recent 'Bin Cia 'da' fiasco than the BS.. we are getting from mainstream news.
Iran had as much to do with 9/11 as Iraq did ( Dodgy Dossier anyone!!! ) It makes me sick .... On a brighter note after watching Inelia's vid maybe our best hope of not being dragged into a major conflict with China/Russia
where I think TPTB are trying to push us towards for world depopulation...(War..Disease followed by famine ) as per the Georgia guidestones ( that wasn't the brighter bit ).
I've noticed my own conciouness rising in the past few years. I'm not religious but maybe there is a quicker way of waking up the six and a half billion people on the planet..... Still working on it/ open to suggestions cheers Steve
PS... Really hope Inelias right...( light sabres )

[Daren]

they been planning a war with Iran for long time i think. maybe this is the start of it

they still wont admit it was a controlled demolition, what about building 7,, who did that 1?

who told the BBC building 7 had fallen down under the heat of the binlardin wonder fuel, from the symbolic demolition of the two towers that goes way back to Samson pulling down the pillars, which is a change from one era to another we in England had two towers brought down but with out the deaths cooling towers. I would like to know the names of the guests staying in hotels and buildings that had a good view of it happening I would put money on there being some Freemasons around watching it all unfold. nice way of hiding some paper work that will never be found. But some passports was found very quickly.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

and the wheel still turns.

seriously? who has the power to stop this?

PVM

[oceanz]

But the commission said it had ''found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah was aware of the planning for what later became'' the September 11 attacks and that the ''topic requires further investigation by the US government''.

The New York Times


Why are there so many articles that end with these sorts of disclaimers? Why bother reporting anything until their investigations/research have been finalised?

Talk about putting the seed of doubt in peoples minds about Iran without full proof.

[Calz]

and the wheel still turns.

seriously? who has the power to stop this?

PVM

Many people "feel" things are "changing".

Don't give up hope as that is what "they" want. :)

[ViralSpiral]

anyone here from the iranian government who would like to tell us the real deal? i mean what is the proposed false reaction to a false statement?



Hi Benny
I know your question was rhetorical
Just dont expect a reply from the woods. The governmental trees hear you not


Jinn catcher sounds like the proverbial 911 Pied Piper to me: twas the terr's that did it.....
Best we can do is send healing there and not attach to the emotion of the unfolding drama. As has been expressesd in many other threads, people are waking up. Our role is not to shout from the rooftops (snipers :p), but to whisper to the quiet revolution.



May all beings be free from suffering

[bennycog]

I do tend to be a little rhetorical VS :)
It does help me and my thoughts process the information and try to work out a next move or just to swallow up the all the fluff while regurgitating the vital points to hand down to my children. And i think it helps others out too..
If i have enough material to hold me up on my own i certainly won't be whispering, ill find the biggest speakers and the highest moutnain out there and let it rip :)
love love love

[Steven]

What about Israel?

USA - Arabic world - what is the lacking hidden third party?

Namaste, Steven

[Gustav]

It will be interesting to see how this develops. By the way, weren't most of the hijackers from saudi-arabia? Not that it plays a part at a high level I believe, but are the saudi's and the iranians/persians not eachothers ideological adversaries?

[Cidersomerset]

Well it was bound to be said sooner or later...... the Iranians Did it , I 'm only surprised they have 'nt blamed Gaddaffi . Saddam had links , The Taliban must of helped Bin Laden invade Afghanistan. Lets demonise the Yeman, maybe Syria they must worship 'AL CIADA' ,

Pakistan they're two faced , how about Turkmenistan ,Tajikistan ,Kyrgystan,Uzbekistan , Kazakhstan no to close to Russia saving them for later...Infact if we can control all the 'Stans ' we'll keep our pipeline from the caspian sea safe and be onthe borders of China .

Ready for the 'Biggy' No we all know where 'Al CIADA' come from . But no one is going to look there...... Cheers Steve

[ghostrider]

the first thing after a blow from the so called TERROIST/CIA/FBI/NSA/DHS is they take credit for attacking the great satan/US then give the glory to their God. Iran never bragged about the 9-11 strike. Iran had nothing to do with 9-11 or holographic planes and molecular/direct energy weapons. it's a shame, we gonna blow them up to help build them back up just like all the other corporate/bank investments. Germany,Korea,Vietnam,Iraq. evidently the wealthy elite don't have quite enough money yet. how much is enough? how much death is enough? how much suffering is enough? maybe if we give them every dollar on planet earth they won't have a reason to continue their war machine.

[Maia Gabrial]

My first thought was that blaming Iran is just a way to take our eyes off the real culprits.
Maia

[ghostrider]

should just launch a cruise missle into everybody, yep that'l fix it. I'm SO TIRED of the *&@ WAR MACHINE NO MORE WARRRRR !!! no more dang it. killing others is not the answer, they'll just re-incarnate .