MoSh187
22nd May 2011, 18:33
This is all for intelligent discussion. Keep in mind I will be mentioning people like David Wilcock and Delores Cannon. I am not personally attacking them in anyway. I simply feel that they aren't soberly questioning their sources. I am not attacking your heroes, it is my belief that everyone involved is whole heartedly concerned about the direction of the human race and the planet and are simply doing their best to wake everyone up.
There is much talk about a coming global consciousness shift. This is put forth from people who channel entities, or in the unique case of Delores Cannon, comes from people under a deep hypnotic state where Aliens take control of their body. Delores' theory is similar to the theory of David Wilcock that at some point in time during or after 2012 the earth will shift into a new vibration or dimension. That this new world will be peaceful and we will all be higher vibrational beings who are telepathic, war will be gone and love will reign over everything. It all sounds good right? Unfortunately it is only those who have cleaned their Karmic debt are going to be the ones who make it there. The rest will stay on the old lower vibrational earth and will probably die under a totalitarian regime or collapse of the system due to lack of oil.They preach not to worry, it's okay for people to suffer and die because it is simply their karmic journey. Not only does this set off red flags for me because this shift seems to lack the basics of our human nature, but it is also eerily similar to what Hitler and his Nazi religion used to promote: That Aryans were supposed to evolve into supermen because they were direct descendants of the sons of god, and that in order to have a quote, "New World Order". To me a lot of this 2012 shift stuff seems to be the same thing: In order to live in the new world utopia we must be free of the old age or lower vibrational principles, and somehow that justifies killing millions of people because they are holding the evolution back.
In My mind the shift and earth splitting talked about by DW and D Cannon is nothing but a new twist on a very old idea: A plan for a new world order.
You have to ask: where are these people getting their information from? And in all cases the answer is this: they get it from channeled entities, aliens, archangels, ad infinitum. all talking about this coming shift and describing it in similar ways. So now the bigger question is: Are these all different entities or the same ones just playing to that particular person's paradigm? and How can you be sure that they have our best interests at heart, especially since it's the same entities outright lying about their identity to each different person's personal paradigm that they encounter?
Terrence Mckenna, one of the 2012 shift promoters met with many of these entities in his psychedelic trips which he wrote about in various books. He had this to say about the entities:
"There is no dignity in the universe unless we meet these things on our feet, and that means having an I/Thous relationship. One say to the other
"You say you are omniscient, omnipresent or say you are from Zeta Reticuli. You're long on talk but what can you show me?"
Magicians, people who invoke these things, have always understood that one must go into such encounters with one's wits about oneself,"
What are these entities planning exactly? Well the earliest writings that came from "Ascended Masters" came out of Maddamme blavatsky and Alice Bailey, who wrote extensively with channelled entities about the new world order new world religion and new age. As much as I would like to have everyone come along for a peaceful shift, unfortunately not everyone is invited to this Utopia. Alice bailey writes about this
"...let us never forget that it's the Life, it's purpose and it's directed intentional destiny that's of importance and also that when a form proves inadequate, or too diseased or crippled for the expression of that purpose, it is - From the point of view of the Hierarchy - no disaster when that form has to go. Death is not a disaster to be feared; the work of The Destroyer is not really cruel or undesirable...
Therefore, there is much destruction permitted by the Custodians of the Plan and much evil turned into good..."
In David Ickes 2nd book "Love changes everything," had this to say about this shift.
"I do not seek to hide the severity of this period of fundamental change. It will be tough for every one of us... Many will return to the light levels (die) in the wake of physical events and the quickening vibrations.
The Earth Spirit is already rising up the subplanes, and through the years ahead she will progress through the whole frequencies in her journey back to Atlantis and beyond...
Those who can not quicken their own vibrations through love and balance will find themselves out of synchronization with the environment around them. This process is already apparent. As the vibrations of a being fall behind those of the planet, it manifests in physical, mental and emotional imbalances. And such people will need all the love there is to give. Their behavior will be unpredictable and sometimes unpleasant and inexplicable. Those who cannot at this time rise with the climbing subplanes and frequencies will eventually return to the light levels (die) and be surrounded by the love of indescribable warmth and power. They will asses their progress and decide how they wish to proceed on their path of evolution."
And from the truth shall set you free:
"Others who follow the propoganda of the global elite and the Prison Warder consciousness will cling on to the old vibration in their desperation to find security. They will become even more vehement in their religious, political, and economic dogma. They will resist the rising vibrations if they choose that path and they will have mental emotional and physical effects. The Two states of being, the programmed mind and the open mind, will become more obvious with every month to those who know what is happening."
To quote a youtube video of david icke speaking on 2012
"We are now entering a period of fantastic change, and the happening of events are speeding up all the time. We have two challenges here in front of us.... people (have to) get access to that information, and start to realize who they are and the nature of life, then we go onto stage 2 which is the Incredible Consciousness shift that is going to happen (and is happening with many people already) but can happen for everybody if we open up to the knowledge of what's going on and to do that the edifies of suppression has to go.
What I see in the new age movement, is that they're focusing on the second but they're in denial of the first. and the second is not going to happen for many people unless we remove the suppression."
There is much talk about a coming global consciousness shift. This is put forth from people who channel entities, or in the unique case of Delores Cannon, comes from people under a deep hypnotic state where Aliens take control of their body. Delores' theory is similar to the theory of David Wilcock that at some point in time during or after 2012 the earth will shift into a new vibration or dimension. That this new world will be peaceful and we will all be higher vibrational beings who are telepathic, war will be gone and love will reign over everything. It all sounds good right? Unfortunately it is only those who have cleaned their Karmic debt are going to be the ones who make it there. The rest will stay on the old lower vibrational earth and will probably die under a totalitarian regime or collapse of the system due to lack of oil.They preach not to worry, it's okay for people to suffer and die because it is simply their karmic journey. Not only does this set off red flags for me because this shift seems to lack the basics of our human nature, but it is also eerily similar to what Hitler and his Nazi religion used to promote: That Aryans were supposed to evolve into supermen because they were direct descendants of the sons of god, and that in order to have a quote, "New World Order". To me a lot of this 2012 shift stuff seems to be the same thing: In order to live in the new world utopia we must be free of the old age or lower vibrational principles, and somehow that justifies killing millions of people because they are holding the evolution back.
In My mind the shift and earth splitting talked about by DW and D Cannon is nothing but a new twist on a very old idea: A plan for a new world order.
You have to ask: where are these people getting their information from? And in all cases the answer is this: they get it from channeled entities, aliens, archangels, ad infinitum. all talking about this coming shift and describing it in similar ways. So now the bigger question is: Are these all different entities or the same ones just playing to that particular person's paradigm? and How can you be sure that they have our best interests at heart, especially since it's the same entities outright lying about their identity to each different person's personal paradigm that they encounter?
Terrence Mckenna, one of the 2012 shift promoters met with many of these entities in his psychedelic trips which he wrote about in various books. He had this to say about the entities:
"There is no dignity in the universe unless we meet these things on our feet, and that means having an I/Thous relationship. One say to the other
"You say you are omniscient, omnipresent or say you are from Zeta Reticuli. You're long on talk but what can you show me?"
Magicians, people who invoke these things, have always understood that one must go into such encounters with one's wits about oneself,"
What are these entities planning exactly? Well the earliest writings that came from "Ascended Masters" came out of Maddamme blavatsky and Alice Bailey, who wrote extensively with channelled entities about the new world order new world religion and new age. As much as I would like to have everyone come along for a peaceful shift, unfortunately not everyone is invited to this Utopia. Alice bailey writes about this
"...let us never forget that it's the Life, it's purpose and it's directed intentional destiny that's of importance and also that when a form proves inadequate, or too diseased or crippled for the expression of that purpose, it is - From the point of view of the Hierarchy - no disaster when that form has to go. Death is not a disaster to be feared; the work of The Destroyer is not really cruel or undesirable...
Therefore, there is much destruction permitted by the Custodians of the Plan and much evil turned into good..."
In David Ickes 2nd book "Love changes everything," had this to say about this shift.
"I do not seek to hide the severity of this period of fundamental change. It will be tough for every one of us... Many will return to the light levels (die) in the wake of physical events and the quickening vibrations.
The Earth Spirit is already rising up the subplanes, and through the years ahead she will progress through the whole frequencies in her journey back to Atlantis and beyond...
Those who can not quicken their own vibrations through love and balance will find themselves out of synchronization with the environment around them. This process is already apparent. As the vibrations of a being fall behind those of the planet, it manifests in physical, mental and emotional imbalances. And such people will need all the love there is to give. Their behavior will be unpredictable and sometimes unpleasant and inexplicable. Those who cannot at this time rise with the climbing subplanes and frequencies will eventually return to the light levels (die) and be surrounded by the love of indescribable warmth and power. They will asses their progress and decide how they wish to proceed on their path of evolution."
And from the truth shall set you free:
"Others who follow the propoganda of the global elite and the Prison Warder consciousness will cling on to the old vibration in their desperation to find security. They will become even more vehement in their religious, political, and economic dogma. They will resist the rising vibrations if they choose that path and they will have mental emotional and physical effects. The Two states of being, the programmed mind and the open mind, will become more obvious with every month to those who know what is happening."
To quote a youtube video of david icke speaking on 2012
"We are now entering a period of fantastic change, and the happening of events are speeding up all the time. We have two challenges here in front of us.... people (have to) get access to that information, and start to realize who they are and the nature of life, then we go onto stage 2 which is the Incredible Consciousness shift that is going to happen (and is happening with many people already) but can happen for everybody if we open up to the knowledge of what's going on and to do that the edifies of suppression has to go.
What I see in the new age movement, is that they're focusing on the second but they're in denial of the first. and the second is not going to happen for many people unless we remove the suppression."