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ktlight
23rd May 2011, 09:55
FYI:


An in-depth review of the current role of the US Government in domestic and international affairs reveals the US has indeed become a totalitarian democracy.

“Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” — Lord Acton

Activist Post – 10 Indications The United States Is A Dictatorship

For a people to be free, they must first be honest with themselves, their government, and the world at large. History is filled with stories of free nations that fell under the spell cast by their governments who exploited the threat of terror.

In fact, numerous presidents in American history already have used various specific threats to sidestep their Constitutional restraints. Today we are entering a nebulous world where our “enemy” cannot be defined, has no particular allegiance to one country, and is able to adopt new leaders at will. Rather than encourage a sense of resilience and independence in its citizens, America has chosen to amplify the terror threat in order to concentrate power in the hands of the State. The very first signpost on this historically familiar road to tyranny is an atmosphere of hate, suspicion, and vindictiveness. It first begins as an outwardly directed aggression and then rather abruptly turns inward upon itself.

The good news is that freedom is won and lost in our hearts and minds. It is for this reason that we must state the obvious: we have clearly passed through the first “atmospheric” stage of approaching dictatorship, and have now entered the second — the open behavior of a dictatorship in the United States.

2. Crushing peaceful protest: Despite the current mission to defend protesters living in dictatorships overseas, when George Bush brought “free speech zones” to America it effectively spelled the end of peaceful, lawful street protest. Now the full force of brutality and surveillance has been unleashed upon the very people intent in stopping it through peaceful means. It is as sure a sign as any about totalitarian intentions, when anti-war activists have become one of the targets. The activist is beginning to equal terrorist in the all-seeing eye of the State, and any street gathering is a sure sign to let loose all of the riot weapons that were formerly used against insurgents on foreign battlefields. One look at the G20 protest in Pittsburgh, a recent Illinois University event, and the ongoing travesty of the torture and incarceration of Bradley Manning, and we can begin to see through the propaganda of White House officials when they talk about terrible dictators in other nations crushing dissent.

3. Checkpoints: The slow acclimation of the populace to military-style checkpoints began first as border control operations up to 100 miles inland in what the ACLU calls the Constitution Free Zone. However, this has rather quickly morphed into local traffic stops across the country for “unsavory” characters such as those targeted by the Amber Alert system and DUI checkpoints. Though apparently well meaning, we are now far beyond even loosely suspected criminal activity, as VIPR teams have been introduced to take over public transportation and events. The TSA tyranny has hit the streets of America, now forming a de facto internal passport system straight out of the totalitarian playbook. The expanding checkpoint system dovetails with new initiatives such as the No Ride List proposal of Chuck Shumer, building upon the No Fly List already in place. These no-travel lists are extrajudicial, secret, and form a guilty-until-proven innocent framework that subverts freedom instead of protecting it. Incidentally, this element of constant suspicion is exactly what leads to a citizen spy network.

4. Citizen spy network: Dictatorships know how difficult it is to rule over large populations with only the relatively small numbers of military and police. Despite the lessons of terror created by citizen surveillance that the East German Stasi files left us to examine, just such a network has been openly introduced to present-day America — and now it’s even more high-tech and populated. Secret black budget projects organized through the NSA like Perfect Citizen is just one among many. Our head of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano — in partnership with retailer Wal-Mart – kicked off the See Something, Say Something program, which goes beyond the already high-tech surveillance apparatus of the NSA and turns each of us into an unpaid employee of the police state. Similarly, the web of cameras and data mining is far too massive for even the well-funded NSA, but with gadgets at our disposal we can now download apps to enable spying on our neighbors. Most dangerous of all, though, is new legislation introduced by Peter King that enshrines Janet Napolitano’s program and would provide immunity for accusers “acting in good faith” while reporting suspicious activities. This is guaranteed to lead to false arrests and disappearances, just as it has on every occasion throughout history when a society’s fear becomes self-directed.

5. Executive Orders: This is means by which a dictator can come to power in the United States, despite a framework of checks and balances. Any time a country has centralized its power to the executive branch by erasing the checks and balances of separate legislative and judicial bodies, the result has been dictatorship. And this normally happens when national security is “threatened.” The Constitution is clear, however: only the legislature (Congress) can make laws. Yet, the use of Executive Orders has increased, beginning with President Clinton who came under fire for his abuse of this power, becoming one of only two presidents (the other was Truman’s E.O. 12954) to have an Executive Order struck down by the courts. His successors seem only to have been encouraged. Clinton issued 14, George W. issued over 60, and Obama is at 26 with many more to be expected if he wins a second term. Among the most egregious of Obama’s orders is the ability to hold detainees indefinitely even after a court has found them not guilty. Executive Orders also form the basis for control over regulatory agencies, which then impose the directives. While it seems multi-layered with potential checks and balances, all directives can now be issued top-down in dictatorial fashion.

6. Control of regulatory agencies: This is the more insidious and, ultimately, dangerous tactic used by dictatorships. Dictatorship through regulation invades every facet of society without relying only upon overt violence. As mentioned above, only the legislature can make laws. However, the legislature has created “regulatory bodies” which make de facto laws through “violations” that rob us of freedom. There is no clearer example at the moment than the FDA, which has brought in near-total food control. The FDA is working in concert with a global agenda being foisted upon us through the Codex Alimentarius commission in Europe which essentially renders anything healthy as toxic, and all that is toxic as healthy. Regulatory agencies in the United States have engendered a system where the corporate-government revolving door leads to corruption and consolidation — not free markets. The current regulations are opposed to the principles of freedom and independence, and favor only those in positions to make money from more control; so more control and less freedom is what we can expect under these federal directives controlling the states.

7. President declares war unilaterally: Despite the parade of lies that led to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, it pales in comparison with the new war in Libya and other interventions and sanctions throughout the Middle East and North Africa. Through Executive Orders, outlined above, the President can declare war so long as there is a resolution passed by Congress. This has been dispensed with through Obama’s illegal wars, and it appears that Congress could go even further by ceding its power completely to the president. The disregard for Congressional approval is already dictatorial, but if this last step is taken we will effectively be living in a permanent state of war tantamount to WWIII that will be controlled at the sole discretion of the current and future presidents. This unilateral power to drag nations into war without checks and balances is a hallmark of dictatorships where entire countries are swept along purely by the ideology of their leader. As Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell have stated, “We have a dictatorship when it comes to foreign policy.” With the latest development, it is actually a dictatorship when it comes to domestic policy as well, since America’s espionage network has turned inward, and this new presidential power would not be limited to overseas actions.

8. Torture: Torture has long been a tactic used by America. In fact it runs the leading school on its methods. The School of the Americas (now called WHINSEC) has been responsible for training Latin American dictators and their thugs on how to intimidate the local population and rule with an iron fist. However, the torture debate has hit mainstream media in a serious discussion about its effectiveness, especially following the assassination of Osama bin Laden. Aside from the despicable morals involved, torture doesn’t work for intelligence gathering, according to experts. Furthermore, the legalization of torture was what really brought the dreaded Russian secret police out into the open. When such a declaration is made, it is literally a recruiting strategy to find the criminals and sadists who would love to be part of such a system. Torture is not normal work for normal people; it is the work of psychopaths such as Dick Cheney who loves the tactic of waterboarding so much that he has stated it should be brought back and used more widely. No nation that uses torture to obtain confessions can be called legitimate. It is only used as a tool of intimidation and oppression by totalitarian regimes.

9. Forced labor camps (gulags): This is when we know that a totalitarian society has arrived in full and our society is run completely by coercion. As Naomi Wolf has illustrated, “With its jails in Iraq and Afghanistan, and, of course, Guantánamo in Cuba, where detainees are abused, and kept indefinitely without trial and without access to the due process of the law, America certainly has its gulag now.” Additionally, a silent gulag has already been created inside America, starting with the nation’s prisoners who are increasingly locked up within a for-profit prison-industrial system that makes money both on the construction of prisons as well as the cheap labor force. The Defense Department itself pays prisoners 23 cents per hour to build its weapons systems, which is clearly a type of slave labor. One might immediately argue that there is a huge difference between real prisoners and innocent people swept off the streets as they were in Stalinist Russia, for example, or in modern day North Korea and China. That is to presume, however, that everyone in prison is guilty; and, if they are, that the crimes which have sent them there really constitute offenses worthy of prison sentences. America has the world’s largest prison population and the highest incarceration rate precisely because nearly everything is a jail-time crime, and there is money to be made by the growing corporate prison system. The War on Drugs alone has led to a disproportionate number of inmates for non-violent offenses among the already 2.4 million in jail and the 5 million on probation. With the economy imploding, even debtors prisons have made a comeback. Although FEMA camps are still relegated to fringe conspiracy theory, we should be wary of the potential endgame for such a proven system of oppression. Through Continuity of Government, national emergency directives would openly suspend the Constitution and could possibly lead once again to internment camps in America.

10. Control over all communications (propaganda): Once the physical framework of dictatorial control has been set up, then the justification for its continued presence can commence. The type of high-tech control grid now put into place in The United States to this point has only been explored in works of fiction such as 1984, which has led Paul Craig Roberts to draw a correct parallel. A public emergency announcement system has in fact been in place since the ’50s, whereby the president can interrupt television and radio to deliver critical messages. However, this has been recently expanded even beyond the Telecommunications Act of 1996 as the FCC voted to mandate (PDF) “the first-ever Presidential alert to be aired across the United States on the Nation’s Emergency Alert System (EAS).” Now, with the arrival of the trackable smartphone that can be hijacked to bring government messages (emergency or not) we find ourselves “willing” participants in a scenario reaching far beyond 1984. Using the bin Laden assassination and the threat of guaranteed reprisal, the government has announced that the president will break into these private networks to carry PLAN government messages and warnings; and there is no opt-out. This is slated to go even further, as Infowars has reported: “All smart devices have federally-mandated control and kill switches added. This will give the government total control over incoming information to all smart phones regardless of manufacturer. These policies dovetail with the roll out of Smart Meters and the new Google controlled smart homes which will send messages over the power-lines to your appliances to control power consumption or simply cut the power. In addition, new ‘green’ lighting systems are being installed in government buildings which send and receive data through controlled pulses of light. And now the Pentagon wants the authority to run it all.” At the same time, we have seen the buildup in rhetoric leading toward Internet control. As always, an unsavory element of society (pirating) has been used as one of the pretexts to introduce government control over private industry, while cybersecurity lays claim to total control over the infrastructure for national emergencies. Ideologically, Obama advisor, Cass Sunstein, has proposed a fairness doctrine for the Internet that would enable a government overlay on private websites that would offer counter opinions to anti-establishment content. We are approaching a situation worse than China, where both mental intrusion via propaganda and physical intrusion via systems control are merging. It is not comforting to know, also, that the president made a shocking claim recently that he can censor unclassified documents. There is clearly a concerted effort to take over all forms of information, permitting the government to alter it or censor it before consumption by its citizens. In any other country we would call this a dictatorship.

It would appear that the United States should be a called a dictatorship based on the above criteria. Once the atmosphere is established, average participants need not be part of a conspiracy, as they tend to unquestioningly go with the flow. However, we must acknowledge that the U.S. is in a vastly different position than totalitarian regimes of the past, as well as her contemporaries. America has a history that is built upon the foundation of resistance to dictators. This memory needs to be invoked by following the protections outlined in our founding documents, particularly the power of the states to resist Federal tyranny. The protections therein can be restored once we have the courage to admit how much freedom we have lost, then refuse to succumb to a fear-based perception of reality. Only then will Liberty, Love and Peace prevail!

source
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/05/22/10-indications-united-states-dictatorship-2-22861/

HelenOsborn
24th May 2011, 03:46
This is a subject dear to my heart ktflight. I have spent a lot of time posting similar articles on facebook and twitter over the past weeks and months. I think the population of the United States are waking up that their 'house is on fire', though to my deep horror I fear many have not woken up in time to save their lives.

The fall of the USA must be a warning to all of us that we invite abuse from our leaders if we give them unqualified adoration and trust instead of scrutiny that demands accountability.

On days that this really depresses me, I go to the Jon Stewart daily show site. Jon is the modern day court jester who can insult the powers that be in the name of comedy and get away with it and at the same time educate his audience. He is a hero.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (http://www.thedailyshow.com/)

RedeZra
24th May 2011, 04:04
On days that this really depresses me, I go to the Jon Stewart daily show site. Jon is the modern day court jester who can insult the powers that be in the name of comedy and get away with it and at the same time educate his audience. He is a hero.


Do you know why he can get away with it ?

HelenOsborn
24th May 2011, 14:47
RedeZra I'm not sure why Jon Stewart gets away with poking fun at the American establishment. My gut feeling is that he has a kind of 'archetypal privilege' that the court jesters of old also held.

They were the only ones who could insult the king and live to tell the tale, of course their insults were hidden in the guise of humour, which had the duel function of entertaining and educating the audience about political intrigues

Jesters travelled so one can presume they might have been double agents filling Kings in on what was going on in other lands where they had been.

Jon (though I love him dearly) might well be a 'double agent' too. The other day he chided the people who were saying Bin Laden had died years ago, even though he himself has made a lot of jokes about the operation that supposedly killed Bin Laden recently.

My, that is a lot to write when I am only having an educated guess :)

HelenOsborn
24th May 2011, 14:52
I think this fits under the heading of 'Indications that America is a Dictatorship' - Under a new law '9/11 Truthers' may be locked up indefinitely (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEofy7fsIGk&feature=share)

RedeZra
24th May 2011, 15:04
RedeZra I'm not sure why Jon Stewart gets away with poking fun at the American establishment. My gut feeling is that he has a kind of 'archetypal privilege' that the court jesters of old also held.


yes he is either Jew or Jester or a little bit of both ; )

HelenOsborn
24th May 2011, 15:12
YouTube: Technician whistleblows on domestic spying (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GxEPQnxOQQ)

HelenOsborn
24th May 2011, 15:22
yes he is either Jew or Jester or a little bit of both[/i] ; )

Well now, being a Jew and a Jester would certainly give him full immunity! :spy:

HelenOsborn
24th May 2011, 15:37
Ron Paul is a Republican running for the White House. Many of his policies are so sound, I seriously fear for his safety.

YouTube: Ron Paul - "Imagine" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UryciFTWTP4)

sshenry
24th May 2011, 15:55
10 Indications The United States Is A Dictatorship

You mean there was actually a question?

sshenry
24th May 2011, 17:17
Ron Paul is a Republican running for the White House. Many of his policies are so sound, I seriously fear for his safety.

YouTube: Ron Paul - "Imagine" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UryciFTWTP4)

I'm all for smaller government, but eliminating entire agencies is a bit much, especially when we've come to depend on them -

Let's see - we eliminate the Department of Education, and not only would it be every state for itself when it comes to public education (and I don't know about you, but I'd really rather my kids not be taught creationism in the classroom) but any chances for 75% of kids to go to college would be eliminated thanks to getting rid of the grants and loans available now. Of course, only educating the wealthy (who can afford college tuition) would be a great thing for the corporations, who would prefer a limited educcation in their main workforce (easier to handle and control).

We get rid of the Department of Energy and we can kiss energy regulation and standards goodbye (another big plus for corporate america that has been chafing under government regulations;for decades).

We get rid of the Department of Commerce, well, that would DEFINITELY be in the interest of big business because it would allow growth of corporations unobstructed by government regulation. Who cares about improving living standards for ALL americans? Only those who can afford it should be able to live well :)


Department of Health and Human Resources (hell, they're just people, we're dealing with right? no problem, cut away!)


I could go on and on (but I won't). Again, I'm not saying that these departments need to be as big as they are, but cut them altogether? Oh yeah, I forgot, it's the corporations that rule the world now, we should just let them get on with it :)

Fred Steeves
24th May 2011, 20:43
On days that this really depresses me, I go to the Jon Stewart daily show site. Jon is the modern day court jester who can insult the powers that be in the name of comedy and get away with it and at the same time educate his audience. He is a hero.


Do you know why he can get away with it ?


Jon Stewart is not the person he appears to be. Never forget, the lie is different at every level.

Yes RedeZra, besides my opening statement I believe I do. Think Wall Street? Think Big? Hmmmmmm, and golly, he seems so, genuine, and one of us.

Cheers,
Fred S.

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Apart from all that, don't sweat it folks, they're f****d and they know it. :gossip:


Cheers,
Fred S.

Lord Sidious
24th May 2011, 21:15
RedeZra I'm not sure why Jon Stewart gets away with poking fun at the American establishment. My gut feeling is that he has a kind of 'archetypal privilege' that the court jesters of old also held.


yes he is either Jew or Jester or a little bit of both ; )

Not all of ''the jews'' are bad people.
Yeah, they have their dirtbags too, but please, don't continue the madness.

Fred Steeves
24th May 2011, 21:47
No one's gonna bite on Jon Stewart's Wall Street connection? Come on Rob, you should know this.

Lord Sidious
24th May 2011, 22:13
No one's gonna bite on Jon Stewart's Wall Street connection? Come on Rob, you should know this.

I know exactly what he is, the problem is, this all comes home to roost on the decent people, not the dirtbags.

Fred Steeves
24th May 2011, 22:33
No one's gonna bite on Jon Stewart's Wall Street connection? Come on Rob, you should know this.

I know exactly what he is, the problem is, this all comes home to roost on the decent people, not the dirtbags.

Israel is one of the coolest places I've ever visited, with very nice people people, although it was tough finding bacon at the hotel's Sunday morning breakfast buffet, LOL!!! No, I'm not going the Jew bashing route for Pete's sake. Although there is a Jewish connection.


Cheers,
Fred S.

Lord Sidious
24th May 2011, 22:36
No one's gonna bite on Jon Stewart's Wall Street connection? Come on Rob, you should know this.

I know exactly what he is, the problem is, this all comes home to roost on the decent people, not the dirtbags.

Israel is one of the coolest places I've ever visited, with very nice people people, although it was tough finding bacon at the hotel's Sunday morning breakfast buffet, LOL!!! No, I'm not going the Jew bashing route for Pete's sake. Although there is a Jewish connection.


Cheers,
Fred S.

Fred ya boxhead, I didn't think you were.
I was just trying to put the point up, that yes, there are dirtbags that we can id as being jews, but then the decent ones think that anti semitism is real.

shantima
24th May 2011, 23:10
mm..post is all outcome .. one's birth is blueprint for life , subconscious mind acting out repetively , so.. a little rootcause in america might be this .. : many cesarean births there , the most in the entire world ! : child doesn t decide when it comes out , the doctors do that for them and mother sometimes . ( many citizens there having the pattern that someone else decides for them as it s their first impression of life ) so they either act that out or rebel ofcourse , or projects it out on others , put the blame .
they dont go through the birthcanal , and get the massage that strengthens their immunesystem and life force , they "get saved / rescued " the " easy way " not used to doing it completely on their own , .. well the easy way ofcourse being that it s not a human hand that reaches them first but a birthtool , most likely a surgeons knife to get to where they are. hospital environment , mom goes through major operation after the birth so is not really there for the child the first hours , often they are drugged out , spaced out , and then so is the baby , so pattern arises: tolive is to feel spaced out ,versus clear and aware . homebirths not allowed i heard there , correct me if i am wrong , conscious babies being born luckily in few countries within ofcourse indigenous tribes and other countries too with waterbirth , and now even many women are going for how birth was intended , to ride the wave as a mother , it is called extatic birth , even orgasmic birth , imagine the babies coming out like that , instead of in cold clinical hospital environment by operation and drugs as a human factory . anyhow breathwork deals with clearing ones lymbic imprints by birth in conscious trance, but just to bring more awareness on where the illusionairy separation with source gets aggrevated through these horrible births which is considered normal , a great affirmation for cesarean babies is_ i can easily make it on my own _ i dont need to create other people deciding things for me , that would be a great shift in the collective consciousness of america , and as for strange subject of racial differences that i kind of gazed across this post , sprouting out of this initial post, we are earth guardians here no ? and surely many conscious parents and consciously born babies around here , much love to all , shantima :baby:

HelenOsborn
25th May 2011, 08:32
Not all of ''the jews'' are bad people.
Yeah, they have their dirtbags too, but please, don't continue the madness.

After I posted my comment about Jon Stewart being a Jew and Jester simultaneously, I hoped it would not be taken as a criticism of Jews in general. I certainly didn't mean it that way and don't believe that would be in keeping with the spirit of this forum.

There are some who call themselves Jewish who have a lot to answer for, regarding abuses to our world and their fellow human beings, as do individuals from all faiths and races.

I personally believe that the majority of people have good hearts and good intentions regardless of their faith or race.

I'm afraid even if Jon Stewart is a raging Zionist, I still love his work, but thanks to this information I might keep my eyes a little more open regarding him ;)

Fred Steeves
25th May 2011, 13:45
Fred ya boxhead, I didn't think you were.
I was just trying to put the point up, that yes, there are dirtbags that we can id as being jews, but then the decent ones think that anti semitism is real.

Ain't the somethin, I've been called a lot of things in my time, but never a boxhead. That's one of the funniest expressions I've heard since "I've been hornswaggled".

Anyway, maybe this is telling me I don't have the knack to instigate investigative guessing games. So, Jon Stewart's brother is Chief Operation Officer of the New York stock Exchange. His name is Larry Leibowitz.

Sorry for hijacking one of your threads here kt, didn't mean to, but scheisse happens.

Cheers,
Fred

Fred Steeves
25th May 2011, 14:08
Not all of ''the jews'' are bad people.
Yeah, they have their dirtbags too, but please, don't continue the madness.

After I posted my comment about Jon Stewart being a Jew and Jester simultaneously, I hoped it would not be taken as a criticism of Jews in general. I certainly didn't mean it that way and don't believe that would be in keeping with the spirit of this forum.

There are some who call themselves Jewish who have a lot to answer for, regarding abuses to our world and their fellow human beings, as do individuals from all faiths and races.

I personally believe that the majority of people have good hearts and good intentions regardless of their faith or race.

I'm afraid even if Jon Stewart is a raging Zionist, I still love his work, but thanks to this information I might keep my eyes a little more open regarding him ;)

Hi Helen, don't sweat it, we're all communicating through keyboards here. By all means enjoy Stewart's work, he IS funny. Just be wary of his role in the grand chess game, and notice at what point a smart guy like that suddenly becomes not curious. I enjoy Glenn Beck, even though the more I become aware of things the more I realize he spreads a lot of disinformation, AND at certain predictable points becomes not curious. That's HIS part in the chess game, he does put out a lot of accurate NWO information you won't see anywhere on t.v. or radio, (except for Alex Jones) but he also leads his curious flock astray by trashing 9/11 truth and such things. Fun and interesting stuff to observe with awareness.


Cheers,
Fred

ktlight
25th May 2011, 14:21
Fred ya boxhead, I didn't think you were.
I was just trying to put the point up, that yes, there are dirtbags that we can id as being jews, but then the decent ones think that anti semitism is real.

Ain't the somethin, I've been called a lot of things in my time, but never a boxhead. That's one of the funniest expressions I've heard since "I've been hornswaggled".

Anyway, maybe this is telling me I don't have the knack to instigate investigative guessing games. So, Jon Stewart's brother is Chief Operation Officer of the New York stock Exchange. His name is Larry Leibowitz.

Sorry for hijacking one of your threads here kt, didn't mean to, but scheisse happens.

Cheers,
Fred

It's quite funny.

HelenOsborn
25th May 2011, 15:10
Thanks Fred for your wise and kind advice. :) What do you think of the Colbert Report?

I'm really happy to get the 'low down' on these guys, because I watch virtually no TV except for Jon Stewart and really don't want to infiltrate my subconscious with false information with the small amount of TV I do expose myself too.

I really watch Jon for laughs more than information, but humour can be a powerful manipulator. I Would rather watch an accurate comedian than a manipulative one.

Another comedian/social commentator I really love, though his material is quite crude and angry, is George Catlin. He seems to have been awake to the hidden agendas and now he has died. The conspiracist in me says that his death is a little too convenient for the powers he mercilessly attacks in his routines

George Catlin - The American Dream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q&feature=related)

HelenOsborn
25th May 2011, 15:13
I have a link to a very disturbing story where two US judges have been charged with taking bribes to place children in prison for minor offences, and fits within the theme of this thread.

2 US Judges Plead guilty to selling children to private prisons! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4q7p3ME95E&feature=youtu.be)

The One
25th May 2011, 15:14
War-profiteering will bring about the ultimate demise of America. You can't go on invading other people's countries forever - you build up such a reservoir of hatred in so many people that sooner or later it will become payback time.

Fred Steeves
25th May 2011, 15:39
I have a link to a very disturbing story where two US judges have been charged with taking bribes to place children in prison for minor offences, and fits within the theme of this thread.

2 US Judges Plead guilty to selling children to private prisons! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4q7p3ME95E&feature=youtu.be)


O.K., here we go down the rabbit hole. For starters Democracy Now can't be trusted more than any other media entity, for you will also find certain points where their journalistic curiosity mysteriously cuts off, just like Beck, but for the left. Having said that, their story in surely onto something with the combination of children and privately run prisons. I ask you Helen to watch VERY closely Democracy Now to see how much follow up they have on the story. Much like Bernie Madoff, the way it works is you divert the public eye by throwing one of your own overboard as a scapegoat, then declare problem solved, we can all feel better now, so let's move on shall we? Even if those judges sing like there's no tomorrow, they never existed, we'll never hear it, and besides within a few days there will be crushing new headlines to take the very temporary limelight.

Chess anyone?

Cheers,
Fred

sshenry
25th May 2011, 15:43
War-profiteering will bring about the ultimate demise of America. You can't go on invading other people's countries forever - you build up such a reservoir of hatred in so many people that sooner or later it will become payback time.

I can't even conceive of the collective Karmic debt that the US has built up over the years...back in threefold, eh? *shudders*

Lord Sidious
25th May 2011, 18:50
Fred ya boxhead, I didn't think you were.
I was just trying to put the point up, that yes, there are dirtbags that we can id as being jews, but then the decent ones think that anti semitism is real.

Ain't the somethin, I've been called a lot of things in my time, but never a boxhead. That's one of the funniest expressions I've heard since "I've been hornswaggled".

Anyway, maybe this is telling me I don't have the knack to instigate investigative guessing games. So, Jon Stewart's brother is Chief Operation Officer of the New York stock Exchange. His name is Larry Leibowitz.

Sorry for hijacking one of your threads here kt, didn't mean to, but scheisse happens.

Cheers,
Fred

Scheisse doesn't just happen, it is caused by arschlochs. :p